/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

This so much. I regret being dirt-poor during the 80's and 90's as a kid and missing the whole proto-hacking thing.

I also regret never having teletext. PIXELS!

>>38309

BBSs are basically mailing lists "in da cloud" because without connectivity you can't read shit

Monospaced fonts make it superficially cool, but you know what else has monospaced fonts and is a BBS? http://8ch.net/cyber/

>>38540

I feel you, I wish I was born earlier though, the BBS scene had already peaked when I was born.

>>38568

Yeah, but Gopher is only one-way, right?

>>38309

FUCK YES.

Okay I put one up.

When it goes live it will be:

cyberbbs.tk

It used to be the /tech/ bbs but the PC died. I put it back up on a old dell latitude. (it will be slow, but I ordered part so bare with me)

Could someone make a new ansi art intro?

>>38609

The BBS ill be accessible by

telnet cyberbbs.tk 5048

I just have to deal with some networking issues first

>>38608

>Yeah, but Gopher is only one-way, right?

Yea maybe I should have been more clear. Gopher is another tech like BBS's that work on low bandwidth text only platforms.

The 1st time I used Gopher, internet email, and telnet was all though a local BBS.

>>38609

>>38610

Will you have any door games on your board?

>>38611

It is up

telnet cyberbbs.tk

And I just migrated to a computer running a AMD FX-8350 and 16 gigs of ram. So all I need to do it find out how to set them up.

Now I am going to drink some surge and work on that.

Could someone on this board make a good ansi art opening. The old one anounces itself as being /tech/'s

telnet cyberbbs.tk 5048

actually

>>38612

> So all I need to do it find out how to set them up.

OK requesting Planets TEOS.

Falcons Eye, LORD, Trade Wars 2002, BRE where other popular ones.

>>38615

Okay. Hey, join the chat by going to the main menu and typing /n

Running DOS doors on linux

http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu

Bretty schway >>38613

Apparently, both Telnet and SSH would be problematic for accessing BBSs through high-latency networks like over I2P and through meshnets, because the client queries the server for a response after every single character you type, so your typing would be fucked up if the latency is high. A protocol that would send all that text in a single chunk would be needed. Is there any protocol that fits that bill, or would a custom one for this need to be made?

>>38613

>SYSops Zapod and Dev-null.

Fuck, it feels like the 80s/90s. Well, at least how I think it was judging from what I've read on textfiles.com. Feels good man.

>>38632

I have been trying to get a BBS to run over telnet for quite a long time but end up with the problem described.

Also when you telnet it tries to connect to the first hop point aka some random persons node.

Tor can handle it okay but is not as good as i2p.

any ideas as to why ascii/ansi over linux telnet looks like shit? i definitely have the extended charset (i have 3 fall back fonts and support the full utf-8 charset)

any ideas?

>>38623

Problem is, is that is synchronet and I run mystic.

Luckily I have made some head way and should have the games up by the end of the week.

>>38654

That's likely because of the BBS-software. Most BBS-software still doesn't support UTF-8 since they were mainly developed in the 90s, the only one I know of that does that as of now is x/84 that is completely developed in the 10s, I know SynchroNet is gonna get support for it though.

I connect to Amiga BBSes (with Swedish characters) by adding "luit -encoding ISO-8859-1" before the telnet command, experiment with that. I think most English-language BBSes use CP437 or something.

>>38704

I love your computer there, saw it over on /tech/.

And Thanks for the picture of my BBS on a retro computer.

>>38309

>You see, this method of communication would work great on low-bandwidth networks, like meshnets.

Did some thinking about/working with mesh-nets when I was in school/"prison" job corps shazbot here due to how locked down internet-capable computers were there.

HTTP suffices. Even with ad-hoc networks on PCs distributing large files in addition to the message services.

Thing about low-bandwidth meshnets: you're not servicing a large audience like on the "real" internet. Even with "high adoption" among your peers, out of 100 residents in a flat block, you're still going to have <10 concurrent users at any given time on a meshnet, especially if you don't have some god tier content.

If you ever do get to the point that you're stressed on bandwidth, drop images from your page design, keep your CSS lightweight, and don't make asynchronous/automatic calls to the server.

>>38711

But why keep all the bells and whistles of HTML when you can run simple text?

Having issues connecting. Is it still up?

>>38798

I fucked up by trying to integrate a IRC into it and fucked the network connection, I was sshing and and wont get back to it until the 3rd. But it will go back up on the 3rd

>>38799

Thanks. Will check back in then.

Is it up yet?

>>38876

Yes

Also hosting an irc on the same domain.

>>38736

Because if you're not making excessively complex page designs (e.g. complicated web 2.0 bullshit or AJAX type shit), the usability benefits of HTML are far greater than any benefits gained by using raw text.

Unless you're making crazy ass pages with 10 tons of scripting and CSS, it's really not too much more complex than raw text.

>>38898

Don't you need AJAX if you're making a message board or something?

>>38903

no. You can do a chan/text-BBS in pure PHP with no asynchronous server calls, client side scripting, or anything else of that nature. See all of the chans on Tor, where they're paranoid about client side scripts.

The server CPU load would be slightly higher than with a pure static HTML service, but the bandwidth difference would be negligible.

You've gotta consider what's actually going "down the tubes" with each request to the server.

Static page: basically text + formatting that was written by a human hand.

PHP page: text + formatting that's been generated by a program on the server.

AJAX: page is constantly retrieving new data from the site asynchronously. Think: social media pages that have constantly updating feed/status bars set in iframes on the page.

The biggest things that, IMO, will bulk out a page in terms of bandwidth-to-data (aside from asynchronous/automatic data retrieval) are

>images

>large CSS files.

>external JavaScript/client side scripts

Message boards don't need any of this, as all of their work is basically presenting the current status of an SQL table in a readable format, where all formatting is done server side.

View this page's source. Minus the CSS, Client side scripting and images, that's all that is really needed to present an imageboard…a good 45k document. Not really that much per request, especially on a true local meshnet where everyone is operating at the maximum theoretical speed of wifi.

>>38947

>Not really that much per request, especially on a true local meshnet where everyone is operating at the maximum theoretical speed of wifi.

Really? I've heard that even local meshnets would be pretty slow due to the nodes or something.

>>38990

Not an expert, but…

The major slowdown would be finding the device that actually has the data, and it's not like we don't have that issue with the internet right now. You'd just have next-to-no latency in a local meshnet, so it'd be faster than the web (assuming both technologies use the same methods to find the device that actually has the file on it).

>>38990

depends on the topology of the meshnet.

what I'm most familiar with basically is a glorified LAN with data services.

if you're talking about some crazy p2p topology (ala freenet or whatever), then fuck all if I know.

>try to connect

>get runtime error

$080491C0
  $080491C0
  $08048865
  $080480D3

Any idea what this means, Zapod?

>>39082

It is up now.

But I have no idea what that was from

>>38613

no route to host, I guess this is dead… is it?

>>38309

>meshnets

>low-bandwidth

kkkkkek. My local meshnet has a peak throughput of 10gbs. The setup consists of old and used access points and antennas. All-in-all we spent like 200$.

The only thing meshnets really need is B.A.T.M.A.N. to be released in a stable version. Then people can finally go full bladerunner on openwrt hardware.

>>39366

*by stable I mean the full evolved protocol suite (v4-5), not the 2013-released candidate.

>>39366

>>39367

Tell me more anon. Is this by yourself or with buddies? Is it long distance?

>>39366

Wouldn't it get pretty slow over long distances though?

>>39363

getting the same issue, probably cause newfag.

>>39379

>>39374

me and some students who live near our campus set it up. Main node is an AP on top of a university building (without their knowledge) and others on top of our individual dorms (max distance 1,7 Miles).

>>39387

Thats pretty dang cool. Would this be possible with off the shelf routers or are they too short ranged?

>>39366

Advice on getting started with meshnets, chummer?

>>38632

>>38644

Can we talk more about this?

I love starting new programming projects and I've been bored out of my mind lately, while also depressed with the current state of internet communities.

I could devote a huge amount of time to working on something like this.

Why not make some kind of hybrid server that can act like normal webservers without maintaining a connection and only delivering content when a request is received, but also allowing the possibility of maintaining an active connection if that feature is needed?

I made something kinda silly

http://a-tdb.rhcloud.com

Maybe you guys will think it's lame or something, I don't know.

It's a textboard that serves in plain text formatted for terminals.

For example you can view it in color with something like

curl a-tdb.rhcloud.com

There's no built in post form, so you have to hack up your own way to make replies, such as visiting the site in a browser, injecting a post form into the page and using it, or using terminal tools like netcat.

But if you manage to send a POST request with "thread" and "comment" values it'll record it. (thread=new to start a new thread or thread=# to post in an existing one. comment=your comment. Other optional values are title and name.)

>>39513

Sounds extra schway, actually. Having to DIY a post system sounds fuarrking awesome..

Fuck yeah, posting script works. It's really simple, but it works. Might implement some kind of signature option or something, I dunno.

>>39518

Shit, I forgot to post the actual script.

#!/bin/bash
if [ -z $1 ]; then
        curl a-tdb.rhcloud.com
else
        case $1 in
        post)
                curl -d "thread=$2&comment=$3" a-tdb.rhcloud.com
                ;;
        new)
                curl -d "thread=new&comment=$2" a-tdb.rhcloud.com
                ;;
        *)
                echo "What? Use post [threadnum] [comment] to reply or new         [comment] to make a new thread."
                ;;
        esac
fi

>>39519

Protip: Add -s to that first curl if you're gonna run this through a pipe, i.e., script.sh | head -n 15.

I now get the first few lines of the board as a MOTD when I pop open a term.

Kickass.

>>39517

>>39518

Nice I'm glad to see you guys think it's interesting.

I'm no professional programmer or anything so I'm sure it has a bunch of bugs and stuff. But I can post the code somewhere if anyone cares.

>>39520

That's pretty neat. It could get quite large though. I should probably make it so there's more than 1 page.

>>39520

>>39522

Oh it gets the first few lines, I don't know why I didn't read that right.

>>38613

I'd love to participate in this. Unfortunately, I keep getting a connection error: cannot open connection to host.

Is it still alive?

>>39527

oh that domain got phased out when I originally lost all the user data.

I have a Tor BBS and a clearnet BBS.

It is now base install but this coming weekend I will devote a lot of time to get it back up and running.

clearnet:

 telnet slashte.ch 5048 

Tor:

 torsocks telnet nodts3ec65aqus6k.onion 5048 

Then type multipointvc to get in.

I would suggest using netrunner BBS software, as it is the best out and can upload and download files.

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads.html

>>39533

I've opted to use Mystic BBS software since the netrunner software tripped an AV on virus total. I'm sure it's nothing, but I don't want to take any chances.

I'm currently exploring slashte.ch. I'm a noob at using telnet clients and BBSs, so I'm taking this kinda slow.

>>39533

Glad that folks like you are keeping the BBS-spirit alive. I'm giving your clearnet BBS a shout-out on my blog.

>>39533

Cool man thanks

>>39533

:( aww i liked the cyberbbs.tk name

Safe to assume this is a dead project?

>>41415

Nope.

WakeMeUpInside.tk

port : 5048

>>41506

GAWD WHY DOES THE NAME KEEP CHANGING

>>41517

Because .tk is a scam and they regularly steal the domains but we're too poor to even keep the server running regularly, much less shell out $12/year for an actual TLD

>>41681

why not use an openNIC domain or one of the afraid.org free for use subdomains?

>>41682

I really like the OpenNIC idea

This post >>41681 was not made by the BBS owner

It was independently typed satire

>>41681

Pretty sure they're only taking down the domain because it doesn't seem like its active and/or isn't active enough.

Apparently it *is* possible to have input in gopher protocol:

gopher://gopher.su/1/board

It's slow and doesn't autorefresh but it sorta works.

Is there any BBSs that are still active with more than 2 users on at any given time?

>>41841

Retro computing ones are but they usually talk only about <insert 8bit computer BBS is running on here>.

Many old BBC software platforms are free and use tcp/IP (the internet)

>>39366

How would a file sharing platform (like torrents) work on a meshnet? Assuming that a meshnet has, say, 20 users downloading things from different sources, how slow would it be?

Surprised nobody brought up anything like this (at least nor that my lurking saw). I'm sure one with hdmi input can be found as well.

alibaba /product/883996416/52-virtual-screen-tv-glasses-hdmi/specifications.html?spm=a2706.7835515.0.0.i8OATk.

>>41904

wrong thread?

>>41901

Check out http://IPFS.io for a meshnet oriented file sharing platform. It's designed to eventually support networking between planets, with local caching and delay tolerance to mitigate relativity issues.

>>41506

is this still up? I've just found this thread and can't get on.

>>41901

https://github.com/redecentralize/alternative-internet

>how slow would it be?

on tor i once got 1MB/s on a http download (probably running through 3 NSA/Amazon relays)

on others it is far slower but their devs don't tell people to host shit on botnet servers.

>>38605

All the BBS that I visited let you download messages in QWK format. This was in the mid 90's though, dunno if they had anything like that in the 80's.

Anyway you just followed the menu options to download unread messages, and it got sent over ZModem protocol to your terminal program (in my case Telix or QModem) and then you could view the messages with an offline reader.

That way you could spend your time playing door games or something instead of taking extra time to read forums. Normally you only got 1 hour per day, unless the sysop gave you extra time.

http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/QWK_(file_format)

>>43105

Could you run an imageboard on Gopher? Would it work well?

>>43277

Maybe, but you would probably have to extend the protocol and/or clients to be able to retrieve multiple items at once (a post and image), or maybe do it sequentially in the client.

The original protocol is very basic: you select an item and it gets sent to you. Some level of server-side scripting is possible, but it's still limited by that basic protocol.

There's a new Gopher+ protocol that expands on that, and maybe some of the new software even supports it.

There's some info about it here:

gopher://gophernicus.org/1/doc/gopher/

>>43285

Then again, I guess you could just uuencode or base64 the image(s) so they get appended to a post, and then the client just has to decode them.

So maybe you would only need to make a gopher client that can display text + images, and some kind of ordered thread view.

is any of this shit even up anymore?

>>43744

>>43744

That's great. But what I meant was, are any of the BBS boards listed here even up anymore? I tried connecting to a few and they don't seem to work.

>>38568

>Gopher

Other than it's retro charm, gopher is quite shitty protocol.

- text and binary are transfered differently

- metadata stored only on link, not on document. Together with previous point, that means it is not possible to reliably get gopher document by address (not by following link)

- new TCP connection for each request

As for it's tree structure (which is it's main selling point today), people tend to forget that nothing in HTTP requires pages to be cancerous monstrosities.

http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

>>38309

Single tasking BBSes are for chumps. Anyone want a shell on a Debian Linux system with a shitload of cores and almost 200GB RAM? Reply to my post if you're interested.

>>38654

MS-DOS uses the cp437 character encoding and Linux uses UTF-8. Get a cp437-aware font like the PxPlus IBM VGA fonts and use Qodem.

>>43764

It's pretty rare for any BBS's to stay up nowadays. At this point there are way more sysops running boards than there are users to post in them.

If you are looking for a list of active BBS's to try out, you might want to look elsewhere on the internet, like here: http://bbs.guide/listing-category/bbses/

I'm a wageslave for a big company (80k employees) that runs 99% of its business on Windows. All workstations are in a subnet with no internet and I happen to know there's quite a few colleagues that think back fondly to their cyberpunk teens. So I'm currently scripting a BBS in PowerShell to bring us together and relive the old days, perhaps even introduce new people to the lifestyle.

I have some conceptual questions for fellow programmers though (and please bear in mind that PowerShell is .NET so object oriented):

To support multiple parallel connections from clients I needed to make it multithreaded. What (OOP) design pattern would allow users to see each other?

Clients can connect using the raw connection template from PuttY (for example), is there any chance I can use colors?

What encryption model can I use to make the database unreadable for anyone that is not a registered member even if they get a hold of the source code?

How do I efficiently render and receive input? I have attempted a finite state machine but hardcoding all menus did not seem like the best implementation to me.

I have a BBS that I setup on my VPS, I posted it in /tech/ a while back and not much people signed up.

You can use

telnet 162.248.88.138 25567

to connect to it. Just use fake info to sign up. Disclaimer and its obvious, you are pinging your IP to someones random server thats posting on a chan but thats the only risk (Unless you're using a VPS)

I log on about once a day, hope to see people!

>>44825

Forgot to add, the SY password is blank. Just hit enter.

>>44817

>Clients can connect using the raw connection template from PuttY (for example), is there any chance I can use colors?

If you've got PuTTY, ignore the powershell bullshit and just drop Synchronet on a box and use telnet with cp437 in the PuTTY config.

>>44831

No can do. There's a reason I'm building this from scratch. The network is sealed. Nothing goes in or out. Unless it's part of the standard disk image (which putty is, for the one or two Linux servers we have), I cannot involve external sources. I can't disclose who I work for, but security is tight. However, with all the developers on the network this kind of traffic won't really stand out so I'm not worried about the IDS picking up on the BBS.

bump to un404

Any of these still up.

I could probably drop one on a SoC I'm not using.

>>50427

I tried all of these, none seem to work. I know my telnet is working because I was able to access telnet.towel.blinkenlights.nl just fine.

using m$ xp though. maybe I'm just a huge pleb. although my T40 has a Pentium chip without ME which I think is nice,

I liked the oldschool BBS feel of being directly connected between two PCs.

As a sysop, I would bring up the screen of a user who was browsing my BBS, see files they were queuing to D/L. Then press the key to break into chat.

ANSI animation of a line would divide the screen in half, top & bottom boxes would expand into a "sysop" chat.

The chat system was far more intimate than today. You could see someone type in real time. See them stop and think. Complete each other's sentences. Gage proficiency by watching their speed / esp. with symbols. It was cool as a user to have sysop bust into chat, say something like, "Oh, if you like that game, you should try these too…", chat for a bit then back to browsing.

At the peak of the BBS era my small board had tons of content on Jazz-Drives, listed on the archive to D/L, but weren't accessible unless I physically changed the drive out. This caused the BBS to start "paging the sysop" (beeping at me). I'd see the file a user needed, rummage around in a file cabinet in my closet, find the disk and slot it in so their download could continue (or not, and I'd copy it over for them to DL next visit).

I "cleverly" duplicated many popular files on each disk so that they wouldn't come up "not found" when I swapped a drive.

Users with cred could also "page the sysop" to ask me to chat if I was around. Eventually I had rigged the pager function to execute an "outdial" to my actual pager & play a voice modem clip to leave me tone-dialed numeric messages.

Back in the day, an "Outdial" was a cool method of leapfrogging from one BBS to another. You'd call up one BBS and then issue an "outdial" and the BBS would make a call for you to another BBS, and act as a proxy for that connection. By using outdials between boards that saddled area codes we could avoid long distance charges, at cost of additional lag.

Strangely, this part of BBS culture seems largely undocumented. A cracker wouldn't be caught dead without outdial proxies. "Party lines" were also great fun. They were numbers telcos had that if two (or more) phones called the party-line number, they would be connected. It wasn't possible to use 3 or more modems over a party line, but you could have your PCs dial up the party line. One end would be "caller" and issue "ATDT" (attention, dial, tone). The other end would be "answerer" and issue "ATA" (attention, answer). Modems would handshake over the existing connection.

You can use a phoneline as a cheap 2 PC network at home: Take the phone off the hook and wait till the "off hook" noise stops. Then issue the "ATDT" and "ATA" commands on two different PCs hooked to the same phone line. Direct connections wouldn't always work, you needed a carrier, which the phone company provided. You could build a box to create a carrier, but rather than do all that you could just use a null-modem and it would be faster. The "off hook" phone line was just a "ghetto network" I'd use to transfer new Linux boot images into a friend's machine rather than waste disks (back in 96 or so).

Today's meshnets need a different kind of interface than char based. A meshnet BBS needs to be designed for "bursts" of payloads in packet data. HTTP's request / reply method is actually descent for meshnet because HTML+JS = "thick client", which caches the user input, or generates complex interactive displays without requiring a constant connection. IE, you can shove the entire menu system into one .html + js, and just request additional data as needed via Ajax or Websockets.

It's a real shame that the real-time character transmission of ye ol' BBS era is so wasteful and slow in the era of packet based communication, not to mention over mesh.

However, the old BBS interface is schway and became quite functional on some BBSs. My favorite local BBS used a MUSH as the entire board interface. This allowed you to program (in Lisp) sets of actions to interact with the BBS (and other users). I had my entire basic "connection macro" programmed to log in, check messages, upload file(s) [to maintain Up/Dn ratios], download new files from specific categories, then log off.

Something like that would work great over packet and/or mesh nets. Some BBSs had a front-end that did a lot of heavy lifting as a thick client. There are MUDs, MOOs & MUSHes still around, but I haven't seen anyone revamp them specifically for today's BBS problem space. I fear there's not really enough interest. ApacheII, NGNIX, etc. is the "BBS" of today. And yet, web servers can't do have the shit you can do with a basic MUSH. Everyone tries so hard NOT to let users run any code on the server that it's actually retarding progress, IMO. The opposite should be embraced instead…

All the cool things we did with voice modems and outdials back in the day wouldn't have been possible without users being able to control the BBS "server" itself to some degree. Oh well.

>>51087

So, I should set one up?

>>51111

I think the only real issue you'll have is that TELNET isn't secure at all. You can SSH into some systems, I think, but it's something you'll have to look into.

>>51114

Not a problem, here's a bunch of running systems you can SSH into: https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/connection/ssh/

>>51111

Nice numbers. And yes, it would be cool if you set one up.

>>51130

am I cursed? literally every thread I've posted in in the past week on this site, replies stop after I post.

>>51161

Don't worry too much about it, the board is really slow, and most of the users have left. There's just a couple people that check in occasionally, so give them some time to respond.

>>51166

I know, I've just been on a thread-killing streak recently on multiple boards. it gets to my head.

>>51161

>>51167

Nah, I'm still here. Not much time, unfortunately, but I'm slowly making progress on setting up a Mystic.

How about you guys suggest some names in the meantime?

I'm running this thing on a $9 computer over my internet connection. Be respectful and make some schway suggestions, not some "CHILD PORN BBS" drokk.

>>51202

Pool Of Shades, maybe?

By the way, if you'll need help with setting up door games, I can do something. I used to keep a little Mystic-based BBS, and the initial setup of dosemu was a huge pain in the ass.

>>51248

Thanks for the offer bro. If I run into trouble, I'll just post here again.

Neat suggestion, will think about it. Candidates so far:

- The Sprawl BBS

- Pool of Shades

- Chatsubo BBS

>>51302

>- The Sprawl BBS

>- Pool of Shades

>- Chatsubo BBS

I actually remember Sprawl and Catsubo from back in the 90's on dial-up. Not sure if they're still being used, but I'll bet they are already being used by someone.

>>51303

Interesting.

New list of candidates:

- The Sprawl BBS

- Pool of Shades

- Chatsubo BBS

- Retro Sprawl

>>51496

how's the actual thing going?

also those names seem a bit cheesy IMHO. I don't know what else would be better though.

>>51500

Lots of BBSes have names that sound cheesy, just look at some old BBS lists.

>>51500

I feel like the Cheese factor is a part of it. It's way more fun than actually coming off like a tryhard.

>>51500

Slowly, like I said, but surely. Configuration's done.

Trying to grasp the difference between message bases and message groups, currently. Will probably just stick with whatever works.

Roadmap: Set up encryption for SSH (uses cryptlib, so probably no setup required), get the daemon working and, based on the name you jerks pick, make a shitty logo.

Unfortunately, I'm going on vacation next week. I'll try to finish by then. Either way, no worries, I'm not dead and I'm working on it. I'll deliver.

>>51505

good to know, hope it keeps going smoothly. have fun on vacation.

>>51516

Thanks chummer. Got a hunting event coming up this weekend, so I'll probably finish it next month.

Can anyone please fill me in on what message groups and messages bases do? Like, some BBS vet?

ITT: proof that 8chan shazbots can be bros.

Go anons

I'm excited for this

Does BBSanon need any help? I'm kind of wanting to do a BBS myself, would probably be better to have more than one. Share them with the txt boards too would be a good idea.

>>51530

>Can anyone please fill me in on what message groups and messages bases do? Like, some BBS vet?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPOUHszVXaGNSlK3AdI7kLQ/videos

Do any of the mystic BBS guys' videos help?

He also does a setup for a raspberry pi, I'll think I'll set one up on a pi later this year, early next year.

>>51812

BBSanon here, no help required apart from the question I asked about bases and groups.

Have returned from vacation, will commence work tomorrow.

May or may not be finished then.

>>51814

Thanks chummer.

>>51837

Call Retro Sprawl BBS! Open 24/7, unlimited downloads, unlimited posting!

retrosprawl.hopto.org

SSH 2022, telnet 2023, rlogin 1513

(Sorry for the wildly inconsistent theme, I'm still working on it.

Wanted to provide SOMETHING, lest you shazbots think I died. Have fun and don't get me in trouble.)

>>51845

For SSH, user and pw are bbs

>>51845

OK complete noob here. Do I add to "BBS Listing" to post stuff? That's like the forum right?

Someone should write a guide.

>>51847

The message bases are the forums. You post shit there. If you want to reply to someone, you select that person's post and press the button displayed.

Really, it's pretty easy. Just read the shortcuts and whatnot.

Now how the fuck do I edit the System Bulletins?

>>51845

Tried connecting but it appears it can't contact the host

>>51855

Jacked it from work. Works on my end, although it did close the connection unexpectedly. I'll look at the logs from home.

>>51856

Terminal output is

telnet> open retrosprawl.hopto.org:2023

telnet: could not resolve retrosprawl.hopto.org:2023/telnet: Name or service not known

>>51845

I can't seem to connect

>>51861

I can ping it without issue

PING retrosprawl.hopto.org (89.245.75.4) 56(84) bytes of data.

64 bytes from i59F54B04.versanet.de (89.245.75.4): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=38.4 ms

Traceroute is complaining about not knowing the name

traceroute: retrosprawl.hopto.org: Name or service not known

>>51862

traceroute to the IP, please?

>>51863

3 85.218.190.6 (85.218.190.6) 31.528 ms 31.529 ms 31.514 ms

4 te0-7-0-11.aarh-cor01.link.stofa.net (178.155.254.158) 31.501 ms 31.487 ms 31.472 ms

5 b29bfe8e.rev.stofanet.dk (178.155.254.142) 32.828 ms 33.219 ms 33.211 ms

6 bu106.koldt-cor01.link.stofa.net (212.10.45.229) 36.436 ms 23.859 ms 24.400 ms

7 bu101.koldt-br01.link.stofa.net (212.10.45.200) 24.381 ms 24.321 ms 24.297 ms

8 bu101.koldt-cor01.link.stofa.net (212.10.45.201) 24.686 ms 36.992 ms 38.795 ms

9 bu108.hrsk-cor01.link.stofa.net (212.10.45.233) 38.828 ms 38.817 ms 38.754 ms

10 bu101.hrsk-br01.link.stofa.net (212.10.45.194) 38.735 ms 38.715 ms 15.477 ms

11 kbn-b3-link.telia.net (213.248.93.78) 29.381 ms 30.198 ms 30.188 ms

12 kbn-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.142.206) 30.150 ms 30.005 ms kbn-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.114.68) 17.704 ms

13 hbg-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.135.120) 28.185 ms 34.592 ms 32.522 ms

14 ddf-b2-link.telia.net (62.115.115.51) 34.416 ms 34.304 ms 42.200 ms

15 versatel-ic-333313-ddf-b2.c.telia.net (62.115.161.21) 43.051 ms 29.240 ms 35.417 ms

16 62.214.37.109 (62.214.37.109) 36.007 ms 62.214.38.149 (62.214.38.149) 35.961 ms 62.214.37.109 (62.214.37.109) 42.913 ms

17 62.214.37.238 (62.214.37.238) 42.901 ms 31.344 ms 32.346 ms

18 62.214.37.238 (62.214.37.238) 33.543 ms 38.721 ms 37.667 ms

19 i59F54B04.versanet.de (89.245.75.4) 40.200 ms !X 39.599 ms !X 42.417 ms !X

here is from after it leaves my intranet.

>>51863

I'm gonna nmap it and see what i get

>>51865

nmap only sees the SSH port, but ssh still insists that the name or service is unknown. Fucking wierd since traceroute appears to reach the destination.

>>51865

>>51864

>>51866

Right, I'm out of ideas. Traceroute looks good, except for the domain name.

It sounds like a DNS problem. Flush the cache and wait for another 24h, post if something changes.

>>51867

Propagating DNS changes are a pain in the ass, lets hope it works in after some time.

>>51868

Does seem to be a problem on your side. Others have been able to create accounts no problem.

>>51875

I was actually able to log on once, but the connection somehow broke and then i got the same error as you on telnet.

>>51881

>>51875

Oddly enough, SSH tends to be unstable for me as well.

I suspect a problem with cryptlib, maybe due to it being on an ARM platform. Although I hate to say it, please fall back to telnet for the time being.

Regarding telnet:

You're trying to telnet into the SSH port. Telnet is 2023.

>>51884

>You're trying to telnet into the SSH port. Telnet is 2023.

lol fugg, yeah, you're correct about the telnet, works with the correct port, thanks bbsanon :D

I'll try the telnet later today, but yeah, ssh or telnet-tls would be ideal.

Hey everyone, bbsanon here. Was gone for training.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's cryptlib being unstable. I don't know why just yet. I'll try to come up wih something, perhaps a SSL server tunneling straight into telnet. Right now, it seems stable though.

Any other ideas are welcome.

>>51955

Is everyone using stock SSH? I'm using Syncterm and everything is fine.

>>51977

Are you using the pre-built binaries, or compiling the source yourself? I remember some odd stuff happening on Linux, but I don't remember what version fixed it.

You can also try something like Qodem instead.

>>51969

I ran several tests:

- Connecting via telnet from a remote location or from LAN works.

- Connecting via stock ssh or PuTTY from LAN works.

- SSH-connections in general from a remote location seem to be unstable.

I have no idea what's wrong. If DDNS were the culprit, telnet would probably screw up as well. Same for general network issues.

>>51969

I'll run additional tests using syncterm.

Thank you, anons, for your patience and support. So far, it's quite a ride, I suppose issues are part of the nostalgia.

>>51993

can you help me

>>54620

yes

>>54692

Mystic BBS's last release was 2nd of February.

>>54695

Thanks chummer.

>>38309

I think this fits in really well with the oldnet thread >>52592 - Its a way to explore an alternative to the modern "Social Web" with all of its bloat and corperate serveilance. I am intrested in altnerative communities as well - I am looking a lot into hidden services (Galaxy3, Torum,…) and considering exploring I2P, Bitmessage, usenet, mailing lists (cpunk.org) and now bbses.

There are two ssh based "imageboards" out there that I have frequented before but losts information on : einchan and something like "cyberbyte" which had a curses based menu system and was much more polished than einchan. If anyone has links I'd appreciate it.

BBSanon reporting in real quick. Roommate perished and I had shit to sort out - financially, emotionally and a fuckton of paperwork. Also, had to move out _real_ quick to prevent debts.

The piece of shit SoC died and, by extension, Retro Sprawl is down and out. For now.

The thing is, I can probably get my greasy mitts on a dirt cheap server. If I do, I'll buy a domain to go with it and dedicate it to internet days gone by. BBS for sure, maybe even give you guys 5 MB of webspace (no PHP or something like that) per user. You know, like in the old days of ISPs.

Sound good? If so, what else would fit with the theme?

>>57541

use an even cheaper pi or similar board to save on brouzouf and electricity bills.

tell folks on LameChan.org since the whole scene is cyber and has more life than this dead board

>>57560

>word filters in cy

ffs!

to save on m.o.n.e.y

folks on l.a.i.n.c.h.a.n

>>57561

Your obviously not as 水 as you think shazzbot because brouzouf means dough.

>>57561

>not knowing cyb terms

>>41905

sage goes in the email field.

>>57992

>asks for a userID and password

>error activating session

fuck I wish this wasn't my experience with 9/10ths of my attempts to use syncterm

I have a mid 90s laptop with internet and Win95/Telnet, what are some 水 BBSes to visit?

>>57992

>ssh lowlife@45.79.250.220

What's the password?

>>58111

hightech it is in the banner

>>38309

ya can just call one of these

https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-modern-bbses-worth-calling-today

>>57992

How anonymous it is?

And i'm not talking about your privacy, i'm talking about being anonymous inside the board with the other anons.

Also, I hope it doesn't become lain 2.0 in the matter of moderation.