No.15082 [Last50 Posts]
I'm the one who makes the Paganism generals on 4chan, this is a pagan discord all around so it has channels for non-Asatru pagans who such as Slavic, Celtic etc. This board is kinda slow so if you want to join this group here it is https://discord.gg/w68tguT
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No.15083
>>15082
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as """slavs""", are in fact, ruthenians/eastern germanic descendants of kievan rus, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, east nordids.
Slavs are not a race unto itself, but rather another component of the ethnogenesis of the scandinavian norse germanic people from the migration of the peoples and onward, made historically relevant by the kievan rus settlements in Gardariki by the norsemen who traveled down the Volga and founded both Russia and Ukraine before being christianized by the byzantine empire.
Many eastern germanics speak the artifical glagolithic church language invented by the greek monk Cyrill, which is where the term cyrillics stems from. Before that, they spoke old norse and revered pagan germanic gods.
All the so-called "slavs" are really descendants of eastern germanics. There is objectively no argument to be made against this historical fact.
Thanks for reading, and please refer to them as "eastern germanics" next time you make a "slav" thread.
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No.15084
>>15083
>slavs
>germanic
Literally most Germans today aren't fucking Germanic let alone Slavs. Slavs are more fucking related to Scythian people then germanics. Where do you people get these ideas? Slavs almost all carry R1a and not I1 or I2.
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No.15085
>>15083
They're not eastern Germanic, they are related to the Iranic's not Germanic. The ""Eastern Germanic" such as the Goths, vandals etc most had r1a and the goths have literally over 50's of their male lineage come from ""Proto-slavs"" which basically means Iranic.
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No.15087
>WE WUZ EASTERN GERMANIC
Sure thing Faisal keep telling yourself that, won't make it any more true though.
"""Slavs""" are eastern germanic. Deal with it.
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No.15091
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No.15094
>>15083
whoa, we can't have topic about slavic/celtic religion because pankraut will automatically go we wuz """"""""""eastern germanic"""""""""
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No.15096
>>15091
Yes they are
>>15094
LOL panslavistpolackhurt
*slap slap*
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No.15097
Just give it up ghostbumpvirginchode lmao
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No.15100
>>15096
No, Germanics are just Western slavs, deal with it
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No.15113
Checked it out and it's a breddy good place.
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No.15115
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No.15156
>full of varg autism
no thank you
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No.15158
>>15082
It's telling me that the invite link's expired, can you throw up another?
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No.15160
>>15158
Really ok, it should be permanent https://discord.gg/w68tguT
Tell me if it works now
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No.15171
Both germanic and slav are only linguistical terms tho.
If you want to go by ancestry, go with the "western hunter gatherers" (the european R1b clade) group and "eastern steppe nomads" (R1a, there's only one clade of it so it yeah) group.
It is important to remember that the vikings invaded the "slavic" lands in the high middle ages and formed several countries where the nordic vikings where the dominant ethnicity and thus imposed their religion on the natives, however the natives DID have their own religion.
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No.15175
>>15160
I still get 'The instant invite is invalid or has expired.', weird. Unsure what's up, is there another way to invite to the server?
>>15171
>Both Germanic and Slav are only linguistic terms
Truth, to some degree. A west Russian, Pole, or Ukrainian, is more genetically similar to an Englishman, a German, or Swede, than he is to a Croatian or Bulgarian. The WHGs were, though, by and large not R1b, and there are several clades of R1a. R1a was brought to Europe (or, from eastern Europe to the rest of Europe, depending on where we say Europe ends, but that's not important really) by the Yamnaya steppe nomads who mixed with neolithic (or early) European farmers, who were a mix of WHGs and Natufians (basal Eurasians), with the WHG-Natufian ratio depending on time and place. I1 and I2 are WHG paternal lineages, G2a and E1b1b (and to some extent, I think both J1 and J2, though I may be mistaken) were introduced to Europe with the EEFs, though the EEFs were already part WHG before mixing with the pure WHGs they came across in Europe, to whom they introduced farming. R1a and R1b are both ultimately descended from the ancient north Eurasians, and while both are present in some eastern European neolithic samples, and while the Villabruna sample (almost pure WHG, found in Italy) was R1b, by and large they only became prominent throughout Europe after the Yamnaya migrated westwards from the Pontic-Caspian steppe. The Corded Ware culture in the north European plain was seemingly close to purely R1a, and about 75/25 Yamnaya/WHG-heavy NEFs, likely descended from a northern branch of the Yamnaya culture (over time, the CWC picked up further NEF admixture and we end up with the modern northern European genotype). R1b was seemingly made prominent in western Europe after the CWC, by the Bell Beaker culture, who are likely descended from R1b-dominant south Yamnaya people. The Yamnaya people themselves were a mix of eastern European hunter-gatherers and Caucasian hunter-gatherers, likely around 70/30 EHG/CHG, though I'm not certain on that. The EHGs themselves are the result of an earlier mixing of WHGs and the ANEs I mentioned above, where their R- Y-DNA came from. So ultimately, modern Europeans are WHG+EEF+Yamnaya, but both the EEFs and Yamnaya people were WHG-descended, and modern north Europeans are typically 55-60% WHG-derived, the rest being ANE, CHG and Basal rich (Natufian). North and central Europeans are fairly uniformly a little over 50% Yamnaya-descended, with south Europeans seeing markedly less Yamnaya descent. This is why, as I said above, a Russian is closer to a German than a Bulgarian, despite the shared linguistic heritage. And again, R1a and R1b ultimately come from the ANEs, not the WHGs. For reference, it was the Yamnaya culture who brought bronze, domesticated horses, and the proto-Indo-European language and culture to Europe.
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No.15176
>>15175
Sorry that's such a wall of text. I'll try to tl;dr but it still won't be too brief:
Mesolithic Europeans are WHGs, the first anatomically modern humans in Europe, whom we get I1 and I2 from and who produced the cave paintings in France. A group we call EEF, a mix of WHGs and Natufians (who are seemingly closely derived from basal Eurasians) who were the first farmers migrated from the near east into Europe, mixing with the indigenous WHGs and so enriching their WHG component over time as they spread farming northwards and westwards. They also brought Y-haplogroups E1b1b and G2a, possibly J1 and J2.
Meanwhile, the genotype of the proto-Indo-European Yamnaya culture had formed in the Pontic Caspian steppe, from EHGs (themselves WHG+ANE) mixing with CHGs. The Yamnaya people made bronze weapons and domesticated horses, which allowed them to conquer Europe fairly readily, bringing R1a, Indo-European language and culture, and the bronze age with them, and creating the Corded Ware culture. Later, another branch of Yamnaya people migrated to central Europe and formed the Bell Beaker culture, bringing R1b andwith them. After this we're no longer really looking at pre-history, but modern north and central Europeans are roughly 50/50 Yamnaya (EHG+CHG) and neolithic European (WHG+EEF).
No other modern people has as much Yamnaya ancestry, and the Indo-Iranic languages/cultures descend from the Sintashta culture, which itself descends from the Corded Ware culture. The Tocharian and Anatolian language branches which descended directly from the Yamnaya culture went extinct. The Nordic bronze age and proto-Germanic language resulted from a migration from the Unetice culture (Bell Beaker descended) into the Corded Ware-descended people of Scandinavia. As such, Celts and Italics are Beaker-descended, Germanics are Beaker and Corded-descended, and all other Indo-European cultures, including the Iranians and Hindus, (except for Hellenic, I'm unsure there) are Corded-descended.
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No.15199
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No.15208
>>15082
>>15082
Make sure to join, the code is set never to expire
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No.15236
>>15082
Fuck discike
kik.me/g/JWKN4J3IDd0p6LI6h7DYRkv4UGM
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No.15298
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No.15521
The discord is genuinely great and fully of very knowledgeable active(!) people. If you see this, you should definitely join!
Here's the link:
discord.gg/4pVb7tg
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No.15522
>>15082
Ppwchxz is the new code. Perkwunos sperged out and deleted the server but the entire community has relocated here.
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No.15523
>>15521
>>15522
Yeah, it was kind of a bad timing on my side I guess.
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No.15529
>>15523
>discord.gg/4pVb7tg
Can we get a new invite link?
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No.15531
>>15523
Bumping, hoping for new invite.
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No.15532
>>15522
Why would he do that?
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No.15533
>>15529
The admins have barred new entry without knowing someone already in the server for the time being, to prevent shills from getting in
>>15532
Autism. Survive the Jive has a discord server filled with nordicist autism, while our server welcomes all Aryans.
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No.15534
>>15533
>Unironically using bolshevist leftypolack lingo
>hurr don't be proud of your ancestors goy! That would be anti-semitic """"nordicism"""! Bwahaha
Fuck off back to /christian/ where you belong you false-flagging hasbarat kike
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No.15537
>>15534
t. Bob from the midwest who is 43% Irish
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No.15538
>>15533
So there are two discords now?
>Survive the Jive has
so he has his own discord? when I was in some pagan discord ages ago I thought he was just a guest who didn't even talk
>nordicist autism
expample?
>>15534
>false-flagging hasbarat kike
that's what I call paranoid lingo
which discord has this dumb theory spreading about evil devil Loki - Veles enemy of the true God, Thor - Jesus Christ of Light, or they abandoned it?
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No.15630
>>15538
>example?
I'm going to try and give the most impartial tl;dr I can:
Fact: Modern Europeans, genetically, are the result from Indo-European pastoralists and neolithic European farmers mixing after the former migrated into Europe from the steppe northeast of the black sea.
Fact: Northern Europeans have more Indo-European descent than southern Europeans
(Conjecture: This is because northern Europe was less densely populated than southern Europe when Indo-Europeans migrated into Europe.)
Observation: Some people were happy to simple note this and attach little value to it. Some, however, decided that this was grounds for discrimination against southern Europeans.
My take: Some southern Europeans really did knee-jerk react in a silly way to a bit of banter ("The virgin Italian farmer, the Chad Ukrainian horse warrior" or whatever, nothing I think anyone should get upset about), but at the same time some seemingly sincere anti-Mediterranean sentiments were put forward by some ("Italians are not white and we should exclude them", which I view as uncool) and obviously "return fire" ensued ("Germans were living in stick huts while Rome conquered the world!"). Frankly, it's autism on both sides. I don't like the nordicist superiority, and I don't like the accusations of nordicist superiority towards those who really are just stating "we have shared ancestry in different ratios". Neither is fair behaviour, and everyone looks bad for it.
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No.15755
Can anyone give a fresh invite to the discord?
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No.15756
None of the invites posted in this thread work, I would greatly appreciate if someone could post a new one.
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No.15760
>>15756
you mean the forum in which main admin, self titled """brahmin""" is this soyboy
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCei0PwnChoNKl0Gz6AsAH7Q
whose knowledge and authority on paganism is rather questionable.
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No.15764
>>15760
Really activates the almonds, doesn't it?
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No.15772
>>15760
We removed all gays and traps from the server, all 4 that were found. Including one of the "Brahmins" the server is quite decent now. Perkwunos approved.
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No.15774
>>15760
FourOne seems like a decent bloke to me.
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No.15788
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15533
wtf I love Thomas Rowsell now
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No.15789
>>15772
If the server is so great why not give us an invite?
Oh and just to clear things up that guy above me isn't me, he's probably just the poor fellow I decided to copy the Sun Wheel flag off of.
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No.15790
>>15789
Don't ruin my reputation or I will get downboated to Hel!
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No.15791
>>15790
You'll be fine, I don't think I'm too autistic of a human being…
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No.15812
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No.15813
>>15812
You really are a good man, you know that?
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No.15828
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No.16011
I wondered what had happened to this server, I was semi-active in the celtic chat and was disappointed when one day it wasn't there anymore, does anyone have a working link to the new one?
Inb4 got deleted again
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No.16012
>>16011
Forgot to mention that I'm hammockgod#2771 , hopefully someone remembers me from the celtic chat, I posted some spanish sources on the celtiberian tradition and briefly worked on translating it to English with two other lads on there
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No.16013
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No.16026
>>15630
Just bumping to acknowledge you for posting the best summary of the "Nords vs Meds" stuff I've ever seen.
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No.16058
Hey lads I'm getting interested in talking about Paganism instead of just reading it in books. If anyone could invite me to the discord I'd be thankful. OyHeeb#8650 is mine, it has an old cropped meme as profile pic
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No.16069
is there a pagan nat soc. group anywhere on the net to join ?
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No.16072
>>16069
The pagan group linked above is probably 95+% sympathetic towards National Socialism based on my experience there. Most real pagan groups will actually be at least friendly towards National Socialism if they're legit pagans and not Wiccan or similar trash, so that's a quick acid test I do when I encounter a pagan is to ask them about National Socialism.
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No.16173
Does anyone have a (not dead) link?
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No.16175
>>15083
>Many eastern germanics speak the artifical glagolithic church language invented by the greek monk Cyrill, which is where the term cyrillics stems from. Before that, they spoke old norse and revered pagan germanic gods.
This is completely false. All that Cyril did was to create a greek inspired alphabet for the slavs that used to write with runes. Sadly we don't have a single rune that has survived but several medieval scholars mention them.
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No.16177
>>16175
Ignore that nigger, he is mentally challenged.
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No.16178
I'd really like a link. I've considered Asatru for a while and I would like to have more in-depth conversations.
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No.16652
Post another invite you mega dorks
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No.16659
>>16652
>>16177
>Necrobumping a one year old circlejerk thread
You're mentally challenged
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No.17023
>>16652
https://discord.gg/VfaQeeE
You can access it through the paganpathway website now, too.
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