No.11617 [View All]
It's time to end the artifical lingo-cultural split between """slavs""" and germanics once and for all, for it massively weakens our race and its mental strength.
Whole books can be filled with the obvious similarities and historical factoids proving that "slavs" and the Rodnovery belief system are descended directly from eastern germanic vikings, yet some thick-headed defeatists still deny it to this day due to the mental scourge known as pan-slavism, a bullshit myth retelling of eastern european history which originated in the 19th century and caused two world wars so far.
For example, how can we go about incoorporating the "slavic" gods of Rodnoverje into the norse germanic pantheon proper? Should we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin and that Perun's axe is basically related to Odin's hammer directly, e.g. a part of the same weapon set worn by Odin when riding into battle?
ITT let us discuss how we can merge Rodnovery ("slavic" neopaganism) and Asatru into one coherent belief system so as to combine and channel the collective the related greenpilled forces and mental energy going along with it into the survival of our people in the 21st century and beyond.
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No.11646
… And this is why it is only natural to merge Rodnoverje and Asatru back into one single neat and coherent norse belief system with an adjoining moral code, just like it was before the judeo-byzantine christianization efforts took place.
It is imperative to do so if our race is to survive this century. Even the Kolovrat itself is a germanic norse sun symbol. More and more eastern germanics are realizing this nowadays, prompting them to embrace their norse viking germanic heritage rather than to continually deny it like the pan-slavist kike with their artifical divide and conquer shenagians tell them to do.
What has been fractured by jewry shall grow together and meld back into one soon, whether the lowlife kikes like it or not.
The vatnik pan-slavist virgins (such as those ITT) will fail.'''
Hail and victory shall be with the greenpilled and redpilled nordicists, for the future belongs to them!
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No.11647
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No.11648
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No.11649
your shit no sources arguments dont deserve an argument just leave
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No.11650
>>11647
>>11647
Reported for spamming again, anti-white faggot.
Enjoy not getting laid and having been proven wrong by me once again, pan-slavist kike. Lol
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No.11653
>hail to Odin's hammer, fellow nordics
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No.11654
I have no problem with this. I am part Czech and from what I researched about them a lot of them view themselves as ethnically German. Probably why Hitler wanted to take a good chunk of it.
I think people like to push the "Slav" term on anyone from Eastern Europe which is not true.
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No.11947
>>11617
How do I meet a cutie like her?
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No.11974
the OP is a guy called foky from 4chon who autistically cannot handle anything deviating from his nordicist worldview, he has serious autism
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No.11975
>>11974
>(((nordicism is bad goy)))
¨Hey Moshie, OP is a faggot, but that is for pushing this slav-shit.
Asatruars can get along with other religions, they don't need to merge
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No.12004
>>11654
You are very correct my friend. Well observed.
>>11699
Kys
>>11947
Eastern Germania is abound with beautiful women, which is also why Himmler and the SS wanted to incoorporate the eastern germanics and their natural greenpilled norse european ostnordid faith into the Greater Germanic Reich after the axis victory in the second thirty years' war.
>>11974
>>11975
Kill yourself learningkikepermavirginhasbaratchode you projecting autistic anti-white virgin retard lmao
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No.12254
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No.12255
>>11645
>Volksdeutsche
Dude, 300 AD germans didnt exist but as a language group divided into tribes such as saxons and franks.
So why using such terms at a time were they didnt applie?
Also, wends did not speak germanic and remained pagan for a long time after 380AD so saying the byzantines changed their language from germanic into a slavic one is not true.
If you want to merge rodnoverie and asatru tho, it would be retarded to force it under the latter and expect poles to prase Odin as in this regard an indoeuropean angle as the root of all european language and peoples would be a true overarching Ur-faith.
Correctly attributing the numerous european gods and their shifting names and functions to the old pantheon that also layed the foundation of the vedic one is an arduoud task riddled with pitfalls and false assumptions.
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No.12256
Why is FOKY such a pathetic weakling creepy retard spastic with no friends rofl?
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No.12259
>>12255
>expect poles to prase Odin
Well no one actually said they shud necessarily do that
They can revere Perun or whatever as long as they accept that they're eastern germanic racially and culturally speaking
Also the rugian cape arkona natives + wends and so on were all eastern germanics too but deluded pan-slavist retard spastics deny it to this day rofl
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No.12260
AWWWWW IS THE FOKY GONNA CWY?
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No.12263
>>12260
Reported for disruptive off-topic spamming rofl
Enjoy ban chode
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No.12427
>>12256
shut up, foky is the best poster ever
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No.12461
Collection of amazing eastern germanic ostnordid pagan folk songs
>youtube.com/playlist?list=PL30B322DB35C17E02
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No.12462
>youtube.com/watch?v=S1JhyFEbvs0
youtube.com/watch?v=sBnyyfvDwX8
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No.12474
>>12259
Why squabble over semantics if they call themselves slavs or germanic if you can elegantly compromise by saying that we are all of indoeuropean stock so there is no conflict between which subcategories name appeals most to you.
They could turn it simply around after all if you argue like this and say "They can revere Odin or whatever as long as they accept that they're western/northern slavic racially and culturally speaking" :^)
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No.12475
>>12474
There are no "slavs" or "russians". The varangian Kievan Rus were literally vikings who left scandinavia and then traveled down rivers in eastern europe to establish their settlements there (they called it Gardariki) to rule over the semi-asian chaotic "slavic" (eg slave) tribes residing there. The descendants of these vikings are the ukrainians. The descendants of the mongol hunnic slave barbarians are modern muscovite-"russians".
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No.12482
>>12475
Again.
-If- your literal vikings are equal to what lived there (as you cannot tell me they settled in a region devoid of any human life.) before and the slavic and germanic language group are the same people then why do you expect that one term of this very same group (germanic) is valued above the other (slavic).
There is however a difference between the language groups of west and eastern europe which are clearly defined and thus warrant different namings as general overarching term.
Slavic and germanic are fitting for those.
Now, back to the genetic heritage, this can summarized by "indoeuropean" as I said before so you can avoid the grand butthurt that will ensue and seems to have grabbed you too when people start fighting over whose tribal term should be imposed on the other who are apparently the same to justifie this.
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No.12483
FOKY UNBLOCK ME ON STEAM YOU LITTLE PUSSY
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No.12492
>>11699
It's not only a futile effort, but a pointless one as well. There were gods that overlapped, and there were some that didn't. It's hard to tell now, because many sources on these were written by catholic cunts who couldn't tell the difference between a town's name and a deity worshipped there, possibly throwing in things that were completely made up or too recent to count. Some gods were more important in certain regions than the others, further complicating any effort to unify the faith. No need to throw them all into one pot, or do the opposite and be a mudkike over subtle differences like who's the main deity.
Now, splitting hairs and dividing like the angry kraut here >>11644 does is just as retarded. Nobody cares about what christkike ""kings"" of either country did. Genes don't lie. Language and religious differences are dictated purely by geography, the further west the further the speech departed from the common root.
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No.12556
>>12483
Too bad youre an autistic shutin virgin Learningchode with no friends and no prospects beyond posting your same recycled little list of rach images on obscure internet sites
FOREVER
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No.12557
>>12492
> the angry kraut here >>11644
*slap slap*
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No.12693
Learningcoonfy tried to kill this thread with his ghost-bumps
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No.16105
>>12475
>the varangian Kievan Rus were literally…
VARNI, the slavic tribe
and Varini were the same slavic people btw
>>11636
>we had Runes just like the ancient…
VENETI, who are slavs
Religion is simillar because zodiac is the same.
Few corrections:
Jarilo-Freyr, Dazhbog-Heimdall, Belin -Baldr, Licho-Loki, Stribog - Odin, Volos - Tyr
>Igor/Ingvar
Two different names. All Igors are named Igor and Ingvar is named Ingvar.
Source of Ingvar is Yngvi/Agni. It is nordic name which can either relate to Aries or Loki (celestial fire)
Igor is slavic name which means play and relates to pisces. Igra/Psota.Similar nordic name is Agir, who is domicile ruler of Pisces. Most known slavic name for that god is Pust (Puscetus).
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No.16106
The fucking retards on this board who like to think that Slavs and Celts are "Germanics" need to seriously cease their autism. Sure a lot of Slavic and Celtic groups have Germanic admixture thanks to the Germanic sperg out into Eastern, Western, and Southern Europe from around 200 BCE-600 CE, but these groups are NOT Germanic by any stretch of the imagination, and existed apart from Germanics prior to this sperg out. Similarities between Celtic, Germanic, and Slavic pantheons (as well as with many other pagan religions) exist almost 99% of the time from the fact that they all descended from the same Proto-Indo-European religion and people from around 3500-5000 (probably even before this) years ago - long before "Germanics" existed.
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No.16107
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>>16106
>>they all descended from the same Proto-Indo-European people
So they are all "Germanic" unless it can be shown that the people miscegenated thus excluding them from the superset.
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No.16108
>>16107
Germanics are a mix of both Proto-Indo-European peoples and the natives to Scandinavia and Northern Germany. Slavs are a mix of Proto-Indo-Europeans and an entirely different group of people - likewise with Celts and basically any other European people you can think of.
Some people on this fucking board amaze me with their stupidity.
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No.16109
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>>16106
This.
>>16107
If a pack of niggers sailed to America on a piece of driftwood and started a started breeding there, it would be wrong to call the niggers that are still in Africa - Jamaicans, the niggers in America are still Africans.
Using your own logic, since the PIE people lived in the east and migrated to the west (Slavs having remained around the Ukrainian region) it would be more accurate to say that "Germanics" and Celts are actually Slavic, not the other way round. But you don't want to do that do you? Because every nigger/mestizo on /pol/ is a blonde, blue-eyed aryan male LARPing as a German.
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No.16112
>>16108
The lands of so called "Germany" used to be Celtic lands and so then would you say a new race was created in them when Nordic peoples descended into them a few millennia ago? Or was enough of the blood kept that there is no distinction from the North?
>>16109
>>But you don't want to do that do you?
No, calling yourself S(c)lav(us) is worse than naming yourself after German(icus) or even African(us). All derivations and promotions of Roman language, faggot speak with no feeling, words with no inherent meaning and remember it took much blood from "Germanics" to undo only Latin being spoken in their homelands. The Slav like the Eastern Germanic peoples of Vandalia and Gothia gave up everything including their own identity and cease to exist in any meaningful manner. The noose is tightening on the homelands of many Indo-European tribes, how many members does one have to have to be alive?
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No.16113
>>16112
> calling yourself S(c)lav(us) is worse than naming yourself
Why?
Slav originally meant Famous
Slonce -Sun, Slovo -Word, Slava -Fame all radiant and powerful words
You know that in new testament greek word for "slave" is doulos
So sclavus is quite new word.
I think it came from enslavement of celtic veneti, who must have been related to slavs, that's why this word appeared in England but not in Scandinavia where they had thralls.
Salve! Sława!
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No.16116
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No.16117
The present war is a conflict between Germans and Jews and the same is true for the two previous World Wars, where many nations were recruited to ululate for the whiny march of Jewry. The proper way to reduce wars between Indo-Europeans is Jewish extinction, not dilutiion and dissolution of the noble Germanic peoples.
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No.16130
>>16112
You're making even less sense than before, I already gave you more attention than you deserve.
Basically
>ayo hol up, so you be telling me slavs were german?
>we wuz vikangz and sheit, sailed down the volga and built da gardariki and sheit
>>16113
Slava = Glory.
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No.16600
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No.16668
>>11644
>>11645
My gods, your linguistic knowledge is garbage-tier. First, Glagolithic is an alphabet. Second, if Slavic languages descend from an artificial bastardised creole church language, why do they follow distinct sound changes from PIE? Read a fucking book.
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No.16731
>.renegadetribune.com/ivan-bilibin-master-illustrator-russian-folklore-mythology/
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No.16741
>>16668
Normally I don't believe in shills, nor do I stoop as low as calling others shills just for nothing, but that guy seems like a legit DnC shill with the aim of throwing our board into chaos.
I just don't understand why he's so fucking dedicated.
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No.16832
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No.16851
I should think there's few enough adherents of paganism across the White world for us to start D&Cing based on variants of it (and few enough Whites to D&C ourselves from Christians, Atheists and even the Cult of Kek, if we can consider such a thing a "religion" ((and I don't mean that Kekistan bullshit)) ). Can't they just be pagans who use different names? A pagan Europe would also include revivals of the Greek and Roman pantheons, the Anglo-Saxon variant (which really is just Asatru with different names), and Celtic religions, too.
White first, all else second.
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No.19468
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What is eastern germanic paganism?
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No.19469
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>>11617
Bridging the gap requires study of what survives in the Hungarian, Romanian and Serbian tradition as well as in the Circassian Nart Saga. The Vinca symbols are the initial starting point to all our understandings, but nobody knows what they mean. The Book of Veles though provides the cornerstone to the Slavic tradition and that's why I believe Ahnenerbe took it and why it has been illegal to possess in Russia. A designation of Scythian I think works for everyone but there are also Persian, Afghanistan and Indian similarities once you start seeing the other parallels which must also be taken into consideration.
Though we must be aware that there are places where our race once had a home that we no longer have. There, the people who now live there carried on the tradition brought to them by the Aryan race but most likely have corrupted our way in important ways due to their own racial interests. "How to decide such conflicts?", will become an important question when moving forward.
>>we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin
I don't see how you could think that is possible but I am willing to discuss how you came to that understanding and also provide you with my own.
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No.19470
>>19469
Romanian pagan folk religion is dacian though and the magyar one is yamnyao-ponto-scythian-derived with only minor germanic influences
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No.19475
A compromise between clean drinking water and shit will always be to the detriment of the water. Slav degenerates can fuck off.
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No.19628
>>11617
>Should we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin and that Perun's axe is basically related to Odin's hammer directly,
Bro you just posted cringe. Never post cringe bro.
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No.19629
This is either perfect bait, or well-intentioned but misinformed.
Very little information remains of ancient Slavic and Germanic religions - religion was constantly in flux and varied both regionally and over time. We know maybe 1% of what was practised, and there was no one true fixed doctrine.
That said, there is no way to reconcile two diverged branches with one another. You would need to reconstruct the root branch, which would involve guesswork and the resulting religion would have little authority to it and no true adherants.
The best solution imo is to learn from PIE religions how to correctly exist in the world, and follow this. If you want to reconcile PIE religions with one another, the way to do so is not by comparing gods and myths, but by a common view of how we should act and live our lives with respect to nature, our people, and our selves.
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