No.11617 [Last50 Posts]
It's time to end the artifical lingo-cultural split between """slavs""" and germanics once and for all, for it massively weakens our race and its mental strength.
Whole books can be filled with the obvious similarities and historical factoids proving that "slavs" and the Rodnovery belief system are descended directly from eastern germanic vikings, yet some thick-headed defeatists still deny it to this day due to the mental scourge known as pan-slavism, a bullshit myth retelling of eastern european history which originated in the 19th century and caused two world wars so far.
For example, how can we go about incoorporating the "slavic" gods of Rodnoverje into the norse germanic pantheon proper? Should we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin and that Perun's axe is basically related to Odin's hammer directly, e.g. a part of the same weapon set worn by Odin when riding into battle?
ITT let us discuss how we can merge Rodnovery ("slavic" neopaganism) and Asatru into one coherent belief system so as to combine and channel the collective the related greenpilled forces and mental energy going along with it into the survival of our people in the 21st century and beyond.
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No.11618
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No.11619
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No.11628
>The Rus settled an empty land, not conquered an existing people
Strike one.
>Odin's hammer
Strike two.
>muh proud warrior wymin with sword
Strike three. Get out.
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No.11630
the two faiths are very similiar yes
you could say the same comparing it to hinduism, celtic paganism, roman paganism, literally any other indo european faith. the point is sticking to your cultural heritage, not being an eclectic faggot
>Should we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin and that Perun's axe is basically related to Odin's hammer directly, e.g. a part of the same weapon set worn by Odin when riding into battle?
Odin carried a spear into battle, Thor carried a hammer. You are correct in that THOR and Perun are the same god, I dont know where the fuck you got the idea that Odin is the Germanic Perun. Perun is a thunder god that kills serpents and carries an axe that shoots lightning. What part of that implies Odin, and not Thor?
you sound like youve done very very minimal research into either of these faiths
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No.11633
>>11628
>>11630
Fuck off, KIKES. Merging these two nordic faiths is WHITE and REDPILLED as FUCK.
> I dont know where the fuck you got the idea that Odin is the Germanic Perun.
I never even said or even remotely implied that wiccalord (just that Perun is a carbon coby/derived from one of the germanic chief gods - whether it's thor or odin is not that important actually, just that the impetus for this god's formation came from the norse germanic sphere in the first place - by the eastern germanic tribes falsely being called ""slavs"" living in the area at the time), nice try though.
>you sound like youve done very very minimal research into either of these faiths
>ecclectic faggot
Right back at you panslavist bolshevist KIKE germanophobe.
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No.11634
Eastern Germanic-Denying vatnik retards BTFO again by reality
Svetovid, Svantovit[1][2][3] or Sventovit[4] is an Eastern Germanic deity of war, fertility and abundance primarily venerated on the island of Rügen by eastern germanic tribes living there into the 12th century.
Svetovid is often depicted with a sword or bow in one hand and a drinking horn in the other. Other important symbols included the white horse, which were kept in his temple and used in divination.
Svetovid is associated with war and divination and depicted as a four-headed god with two heads looking forward and two back. A statue portraying the god shows him with four heads, each one looking in a separate direction, a symbolical representation of the four directions of the compass, and also perhaps the four seasons of the year. Each face had a specific colour. The northern face of this totem was white (hence White Russia / Belarus and the White Sea), the western, red (hence Red Ruthenia), the southern, black (hence the Black Sea) and the eastern, green (hence Zeleny klyn).[5]
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No.11635
>>11633
Get this faggot out of here mods i dont even have the high energy to explain why hes an idiot
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No.11636
Not just the Varangian/Viking "ruling class", moved and settled in the territories of modern European Russia (North West in particular), MaloRossiya/MaloRussia (Mala Rus' back then) aka central ex-ukraine, Belarus', also - parts of the Baltics and Poland, but that's a bit different story.
Unlike Normans in the West (GB, Ireland), known for their somehow discriminatory policy towards Celts, Varangians in the East assimilated into the Rus'/Eastern European society as there were actually not so many differencies between the two. Even if you look at our spiritual (I don't think "religious" would be a pertinent word here) beliefs, worldview etc they were really similar, except their names:
Veles = Wotan/Odin,
Perun = Thor,
Jarilo = Baldr,
Dazhbog = Freyr,
Mokoš/Mokosh = Frigg,
Chernobog = Loki,
Mara/Marzanna/Morena = Hel,
etc.
There are also similarities between:
Komoeditsa and Ēostre,
Kupala Day/Night and Midsummer,
Solntsevorot and Yule,
etc.
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Vikings/Varangians - Bogatyrs (Varangian warlord Sveneld trained the first Rus' bogatyr Dobrynya and Svyatoslav Igorevich),
Lad'ya (Ладья, Rus') - Viking ship,
and many many others.
Also, I personally believe that Old Rus' language (destroyed by Judeo-Christianity, which labeled us "slavic") was closer to Germanic languages. Just like the ancient Norse we had Runes.
So, there couldn't be some significant cultural and genetic impacts as there were the same system of beliefs and the same origin (the Rus' were North Eastern Europeans). Huge impact usually occurs, when two ethnic/religious groups are VERY different. Nowadays, some ignoramuses think, that if an Eastern European has light hair/eyes then it's a sign of "Viking ancestry". Not necessary, ancient Rus' looked "Nordic" as some call it.
P.S. Oh, and of course my dearest beloved Kiev… Varangians started, and Svjatoslav Igorevich (aka Svenstlav, the son of Igor/Ingvar) ended a liberation of the Rus' land and Kiev from khazar yoke. July 3, 964 AD.
The Principality of the Kievan Rus' rule over a vast area of land, stretching from the Baltic sea in the North to the Black sea in the south. They are a mix of many tribes, both Norse and Slavic, living under the rule of their princes. Many of the nobles are Varangians from Sweden who have either come with their families many years ago, or recently came searching to earn a fortune in the East.
Detailed history:
Sometime around the year 862, a Norse chieftain named Rurik (Old Norse Rørik or Hrœrekr) arrived in the lands now known as Russia. The numerous yet unorganized Slavic tribes had been warring for centuries, and there would no end unless they were conquered by a foreign ruler. According to the Rus' Primary Chronicle, the tribes knew this and sent a message to the Varangians (another name for the Swedes) to come rule over them. And so, the foundation of the Rus' was born. Although the first years under Rurik were chaotic, his dynasty would come to rule one of the most powerful states in Europe.
Rurik passed his rule to his kinsman, Oleg, upon his death in the year 872. Though he had a son, named Igor (Old Norse Ingvar), he was much too young to rule over the Rus', and so Oleg ruled as his regent. During Oleg's reign, he pushed the Rus' even closer to their Golden Age. He wrestled control of Kiev from the two rogue Varangian warlords Haskuldr and Dyri, and moved the capital there from Novgorod (then known as Holmgarðr).
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No.11637
>>11636
and now hes spamming
MODS
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No.11638
>>11635
>Has no counter-arguments
>Is an autistic as fuck permavirgin lowlife
>Spams the thread and insults because he's such a retarded kike
Lmao reported
Get this faggot out of here mods i dont even have the high energy to explain why hes an idiot
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No.11639
>>11637
>>11637
MODS ban the spamming permavirgin hasbarat divide and conquer lowlife kike, he's shitting up and trying to disrupt the whole thread!
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No.11641
The Legend Of A Slavic People - A Historical Lie
>By Doctor Heinrich Klug, writing for the magazine "The Silesian", November 19th, 2010
'''Polish history and its inherent, 200 year-long slav theory are filled with myths, legends, religious references, lies, half-truths and plain propaganda. Up until now it was successfully utilized for polish imperialism, but most of all for the polish westward colonization drive.
It is for this reason that polish history is part of a larger anti-germanic or anti-german policy which has lasted for hundreds of years.
It's understandable that uneducated, primitive people believe these theories. But it isn't just the uneducated who promote them, much more than any other group it's the half-educated and those who merely believe themselves to be educated who indulge in these theories.
It is those historians perfectly adapted to the current political reality and the ignorant intellectuals (who, again, merely believe themselves to be intellectual while they're not) who carry most of the responsibility for the tragic course of german-polish history during the 20th century.
The price for this theory of a slavic people had to be paid by Germany, but most of all by the eastern germans. One third of the Reich's german territory was lost. Millions were murdered under gruesome circumstances and even further tens of millions of germans - 15 million to be exact - were expelled from their centuries-old eastern german ancestral home soil.
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No.11642
This was the final consequence of a political and historical lie about the true origin of the imaginary *slavs*.
The legend of a slavic people had its origin in early medieval european slave trade. Especially the oriental nations saw widespread slave trade during this time, it was almost part of everday life there so to speak.
But the occidental nations such as the romans, the franconian kingdom and the vikings also regarded slave trade as part of their economies, common trade markets, cultures and societal expressions - And, to say the truth, even the christian church of the time was not exempted from this mindset.
Only in 500 AD did the historical records of Jordanes, Prokopios etc begin to mention "Sklabeenoi". The moorish refered to all purchased slaves as "Siklap", the plural of which was "Sakalibah".
The monasterial latin written language of that time adapted the various arab expressions for human trafficking and latinized them into the term "Sclabvi".
Sclavi, a slightly changed version of this newly invented term, was then used by the roman and byzantine churches to refer to all those tribes which were not part of either of those two churches - Irregardless of said tribes' geographical origins.
For the christian churches, they were godless "Sclaves of false idols and the devil", as Adam of Bremen phrased it in the 11th century. These "infidels" were not only refered to as sclaves [an earlier form of the modern german "Sklave", which means slave], but they were also a commodity as "sclaves".
These non-christian tribal peoples' were of course not really the barbarians they were made out to be - They had their own faith, codes of conduct and morals too. Despite this they were fought by the church with fire and sword, which is to say converted to the "correct" faith.
The word "Sclavi" and its actual historical context was valid up until the 18th century. After this, a historian called Schmeidler invented the term "slavs", which was then associated with a different historical context.
In the whole historiography (including the ancient one) of europe there was no mention of any "slavs" as a people up until that point.
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No.11643
Contemporary historiography sees the slavs as a people which "infiltrated" the area around the Weichsel and Warthe after the great migration period. The slavists themselves are unable to pinpoint the exact origins of the "slavs" up to this very day. Sometimes the swamps around Pripyat are then cited as place of origin.
They claim that the area between the rivers Weichsel and Elbe was abandoned by the eastern germanic tribes living there and then conquered by the slavs instead. Before the 19th century, common historiography made no mention of any such hypothetical events.
According to Brandke, the hunnic invasions at the beginning of the 5th century caused the migration period. Why has no historian so far asked himself why the region between Weichsel and Elbe was left by the eastern germanics?
During the mongol invasions in 1241, there was widespread slaughter, looting and man-made destruction in central europe - Entire regions were depopulated. It's likely that slavists believe that in the 13th century the mongols didn't have to fight against eastern germanics at the Elbe and Weichsel anymore since it was populated by slavs already at that point in their imagination.
The ancient historian Einhard (770-840) reported that the inhabitants of the western and eastern elbian lands had "no discernible lingual differences between them, but their morals and clothings varied from each other".
During the second half of the 11th century Adam of Bremen describes the area to the east of the river Elbe as "the richest province in all of Germania - Rich in men, fruits and arms, and ruled over by the vinulians, which were called vandals in earlier times".
During the 13th century Bishop Boguful the second of Posen wrote that "No people have so much in common and are trusted with each other like the sclavi and the germans".
There can be no doubt that these historians of the eastern Elbe regions wrote about german tribes living there. But according to the slavists the "slavs" had lived in those same eastern Elbe regions since the 6th century AD.
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No.11644
Authentic maps from the 15th century refer to the land between Weichsel and Elbe as "Vandalia", named after the eponymous (mostly eastern germanic) tribe.
Even though nowadays some parts of the population residing between Elbe and Weichsel speak slavonic, the region has been inhabited by eastern germanic tribes since antiquity. It was the Polabians, Pomeranians, Wislanians, Circipani, Hevellians, Lusicians (Lugier), Kasubians as part of the vandal Pomoranians, Polanians, Gepids, Goths, Warnen, Rugier, Skiren and Burgundians who lived there - All eastern germanic tribes.
Many of our readers might ask themselves how it came to be that the eastern germanic tribes nowadays speak in slavonic tongues. For this question to be answered, we need to go back in history. It began with the roman empire and its conquest of Macedonia in 147 BC. Through this conquest, Rome won influence in the entirity of the balkans.
Up until the Osman-induced downfall of the eastern roman empire in 1453 AD, the Byzantine Empire was the political, cultural and spiritual central of southeast and eastern europe. Might, wealth and splendor of the superpower that was Byzantium influenced the countries around it too.
This becomes most apparent when one takes a look at Russia, Serbia, Bulgaria or Poland, where the Tsardom, the aristocrats and the orthodox church mimicked the splendor, culture, language and societal form of the Byzantine empire in various degrees. But this had its darker sides too, and the common rural population turned to lowly "Sclaves" - All the while the aristocracy and church greatly won in influence and power.
Much of this resembles contemporary americanism throughout the world and especially in Germany: The rich keep getting richer while the poor ones become poorer.
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No.11645
>When eventually the christian faith was introduced into the Byzantine Empire in 380 AD, during holy masses it was required to converse in latin - The greek language then followed later on.
To converse during holy mass in the "barbarian tongues" of states absorbed by the Byzantine Empire was prohibited by order of the pope.
This is why the greeks Cyril [This is where the word "Cyrillic" comes from in the first place] and Methodius introduced a common artifical church language during the 9th century, which was called Glagolitic. This was basically just a continuation of the melting pot of languages that was the balkan region, and with time it too was byzanticised.
This byzantine language as a sign of a multi-ethnic state and its affiliated church language Glagolitia are the actual origin of all languages which are being called "slavic"today.
Almost all eastern european nations within the former sphere of influence of the Byzantine Empire speak some form of the slavonian language, with some regional dialects. The eastern germanic tribes were of course affected by this too.
This is why a great portion of the poles and czechs are nothing but polonized and czechisized germanics [Volksdeutsche].
This too of course reminds one of times where for example germans living in Upper Silesia were polonized.
They don't speak german anymore because they are simply unable to and don't view themselves as germans (let alone germanics) anymore either due to pan-slavist KIKE propaganda telling them otherwise.
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No.11646
… And this is why it is only natural to merge Rodnoverje and Asatru back into one single neat and coherent norse belief system with an adjoining moral code, just like it was before the judeo-byzantine christianization efforts took place.
It is imperative to do so if our race is to survive this century. Even the Kolovrat itself is a germanic norse sun symbol. More and more eastern germanics are realizing this nowadays, prompting them to embrace their norse viking germanic heritage rather than to continually deny it like the pan-slavist kike with their artifical divide and conquer shenagians tell them to do.
What has been fractured by jewry shall grow together and meld back into one soon, whether the lowlife kikes like it or not.
The vatnik pan-slavist virgins (such as those ITT) will fail.'''
Hail and victory shall be with the greenpilled and redpilled nordicists, for the future belongs to them!
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No.11647
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No.11648
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No.11649
your shit no sources arguments dont deserve an argument just leave
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No.11650
>>11647
>>11647
Reported for spamming again, anti-white faggot.
Enjoy not getting laid and having been proven wrong by me once again, pan-slavist kike. Lol
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No.11653
>hail to Odin's hammer, fellow nordics
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No.11654
I have no problem with this. I am part Czech and from what I researched about them a lot of them view themselves as ethnically German. Probably why Hitler wanted to take a good chunk of it.
I think people like to push the "Slav" term on anyone from Eastern Europe which is not true.
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No.11947
>>11617
How do I meet a cutie like her?
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No.11974
the OP is a guy called foky from 4chon who autistically cannot handle anything deviating from his nordicist worldview, he has serious autism
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No.11975
>>11974
>(((nordicism is bad goy)))
¨Hey Moshie, OP is a faggot, but that is for pushing this slav-shit.
Asatruars can get along with other religions, they don't need to merge
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No.12004
>>11654
You are very correct my friend. Well observed.
>>11699
Kys
>>11947
Eastern Germania is abound with beautiful women, which is also why Himmler and the SS wanted to incoorporate the eastern germanics and their natural greenpilled norse european ostnordid faith into the Greater Germanic Reich after the axis victory in the second thirty years' war.
>>11974
>>11975
Kill yourself learningkikepermavirginhasbaratchode you projecting autistic anti-white virgin retard lmao
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No.12254
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No.12255
>>11645
>Volksdeutsche
Dude, 300 AD germans didnt exist but as a language group divided into tribes such as saxons and franks.
So why using such terms at a time were they didnt applie?
Also, wends did not speak germanic and remained pagan for a long time after 380AD so saying the byzantines changed their language from germanic into a slavic one is not true.
If you want to merge rodnoverie and asatru tho, it would be retarded to force it under the latter and expect poles to prase Odin as in this regard an indoeuropean angle as the root of all european language and peoples would be a true overarching Ur-faith.
Correctly attributing the numerous european gods and their shifting names and functions to the old pantheon that also layed the foundation of the vedic one is an arduoud task riddled with pitfalls and false assumptions.
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No.12256
Why is FOKY such a pathetic weakling creepy retard spastic with no friends rofl?
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No.12259
>>12255
>expect poles to prase Odin
Well no one actually said they shud necessarily do that
They can revere Perun or whatever as long as they accept that they're eastern germanic racially and culturally speaking
Also the rugian cape arkona natives + wends and so on were all eastern germanics too but deluded pan-slavist retard spastics deny it to this day rofl
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No.12260
AWWWWW IS THE FOKY GONNA CWY?
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No.12263
>>12260
Reported for disruptive off-topic spamming rofl
Enjoy ban chode
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No.12427
>>12256
shut up, foky is the best poster ever
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No.12461
Collection of amazing eastern germanic ostnordid pagan folk songs
>youtube.com/playlist?list=PL30B322DB35C17E02
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No.12462
>youtube.com/watch?v=S1JhyFEbvs0
youtube.com/watch?v=sBnyyfvDwX8
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No.12474
>>12259
Why squabble over semantics if they call themselves slavs or germanic if you can elegantly compromise by saying that we are all of indoeuropean stock so there is no conflict between which subcategories name appeals most to you.
They could turn it simply around after all if you argue like this and say "They can revere Odin or whatever as long as they accept that they're western/northern slavic racially and culturally speaking" :^)
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No.12475
>>12474
There are no "slavs" or "russians". The varangian Kievan Rus were literally vikings who left scandinavia and then traveled down rivers in eastern europe to establish their settlements there (they called it Gardariki) to rule over the semi-asian chaotic "slavic" (eg slave) tribes residing there. The descendants of these vikings are the ukrainians. The descendants of the mongol hunnic slave barbarians are modern muscovite-"russians".
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No.12482
>>12475
Again.
-If- your literal vikings are equal to what lived there (as you cannot tell me they settled in a region devoid of any human life.) before and the slavic and germanic language group are the same people then why do you expect that one term of this very same group (germanic) is valued above the other (slavic).
There is however a difference between the language groups of west and eastern europe which are clearly defined and thus warrant different namings as general overarching term.
Slavic and germanic are fitting for those.
Now, back to the genetic heritage, this can summarized by "indoeuropean" as I said before so you can avoid the grand butthurt that will ensue and seems to have grabbed you too when people start fighting over whose tribal term should be imposed on the other who are apparently the same to justifie this.
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No.12483
FOKY UNBLOCK ME ON STEAM YOU LITTLE PUSSY
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No.12492
>>11699
It's not only a futile effort, but a pointless one as well. There were gods that overlapped, and there were some that didn't. It's hard to tell now, because many sources on these were written by catholic cunts who couldn't tell the difference between a town's name and a deity worshipped there, possibly throwing in things that were completely made up or too recent to count. Some gods were more important in certain regions than the others, further complicating any effort to unify the faith. No need to throw them all into one pot, or do the opposite and be a mudkike over subtle differences like who's the main deity.
Now, splitting hairs and dividing like the angry kraut here >>11644 does is just as retarded. Nobody cares about what christkike ""kings"" of either country did. Genes don't lie. Language and religious differences are dictated purely by geography, the further west the further the speech departed from the common root.
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No.12556
>>12483
Too bad youre an autistic shutin virgin Learningchode with no friends and no prospects beyond posting your same recycled little list of rach images on obscure internet sites
FOREVER
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No.12557
>>12492
> the angry kraut here >>11644
*slap slap*
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No.12693
Learningcoonfy tried to kill this thread with his ghost-bumps
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No.16105
>>12475
>the varangian Kievan Rus were literally…
VARNI, the slavic tribe
and Varini were the same slavic people btw
>>11636
>we had Runes just like the ancient…
VENETI, who are slavs
Religion is simillar because zodiac is the same.
Few corrections:
Jarilo-Freyr, Dazhbog-Heimdall, Belin -Baldr, Licho-Loki, Stribog - Odin, Volos - Tyr
>Igor/Ingvar
Two different names. All Igors are named Igor and Ingvar is named Ingvar.
Source of Ingvar is Yngvi/Agni. It is nordic name which can either relate to Aries or Loki (celestial fire)
Igor is slavic name which means play and relates to pisces. Igra/Psota.Similar nordic name is Agir, who is domicile ruler of Pisces. Most known slavic name for that god is Pust (Puscetus).
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No.16106
The fucking retards on this board who like to think that Slavs and Celts are "Germanics" need to seriously cease their autism. Sure a lot of Slavic and Celtic groups have Germanic admixture thanks to the Germanic sperg out into Eastern, Western, and Southern Europe from around 200 BCE-600 CE, but these groups are NOT Germanic by any stretch of the imagination, and existed apart from Germanics prior to this sperg out. Similarities between Celtic, Germanic, and Slavic pantheons (as well as with many other pagan religions) exist almost 99% of the time from the fact that they all descended from the same Proto-Indo-European religion and people from around 3500-5000 (probably even before this) years ago - long before "Germanics" existed.
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No.16107
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>>16106
>>they all descended from the same Proto-Indo-European people
So they are all "Germanic" unless it can be shown that the people miscegenated thus excluding them from the superset.
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No.16108
>>16107
Germanics are a mix of both Proto-Indo-European peoples and the natives to Scandinavia and Northern Germany. Slavs are a mix of Proto-Indo-Europeans and an entirely different group of people - likewise with Celts and basically any other European people you can think of.
Some people on this fucking board amaze me with their stupidity.
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No.16109
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>>16106
This.
>>16107
If a pack of niggers sailed to America on a piece of driftwood and started a started breeding there, it would be wrong to call the niggers that are still in Africa - Jamaicans, the niggers in America are still Africans.
Using your own logic, since the PIE people lived in the east and migrated to the west (Slavs having remained around the Ukrainian region) it would be more accurate to say that "Germanics" and Celts are actually Slavic, not the other way round. But you don't want to do that do you? Because every nigger/mestizo on /pol/ is a blonde, blue-eyed aryan male LARPing as a German.
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No.16112
>>16108
The lands of so called "Germany" used to be Celtic lands and so then would you say a new race was created in them when Nordic peoples descended into them a few millennia ago? Or was enough of the blood kept that there is no distinction from the North?
>>16109
>>But you don't want to do that do you?
No, calling yourself S(c)lav(us) is worse than naming yourself after German(icus) or even African(us). All derivations and promotions of Roman language, faggot speak with no feeling, words with no inherent meaning and remember it took much blood from "Germanics" to undo only Latin being spoken in their homelands. The Slav like the Eastern Germanic peoples of Vandalia and Gothia gave up everything including their own identity and cease to exist in any meaningful manner. The noose is tightening on the homelands of many Indo-European tribes, how many members does one have to have to be alive?
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No.16113
>>16112
> calling yourself S(c)lav(us) is worse than naming yourself
Why?
Slav originally meant Famous
Slonce -Sun, Slovo -Word, Slava -Fame all radiant and powerful words
You know that in new testament greek word for "slave" is doulos
So sclavus is quite new word.
I think it came from enslavement of celtic veneti, who must have been related to slavs, that's why this word appeared in England but not in Scandinavia where they had thralls.
Salve! Sława!
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No.16116
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No.16117
The present war is a conflict between Germans and Jews and the same is true for the two previous World Wars, where many nations were recruited to ululate for the whiny march of Jewry. The proper way to reduce wars between Indo-Europeans is Jewish extinction, not dilutiion and dissolution of the noble Germanic peoples.
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No.16130
>>16112
You're making even less sense than before, I already gave you more attention than you deserve.
Basically
>ayo hol up, so you be telling me slavs were german?
>we wuz vikangz and sheit, sailed down the volga and built da gardariki and sheit
>>16113
Slava = Glory.
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No.16600
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No.16668
>>11644
>>11645
My gods, your linguistic knowledge is garbage-tier. First, Glagolithic is an alphabet. Second, if Slavic languages descend from an artificial bastardised creole church language, why do they follow distinct sound changes from PIE? Read a fucking book.
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No.16731
>.renegadetribune.com/ivan-bilibin-master-illustrator-russian-folklore-mythology/
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No.16741
>>16668
Normally I don't believe in shills, nor do I stoop as low as calling others shills just for nothing, but that guy seems like a legit DnC shill with the aim of throwing our board into chaos.
I just don't understand why he's so fucking dedicated.
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No.16832
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No.16851
I should think there's few enough adherents of paganism across the White world for us to start D&Cing based on variants of it (and few enough Whites to D&C ourselves from Christians, Atheists and even the Cult of Kek, if we can consider such a thing a "religion" ((and I don't mean that Kekistan bullshit)) ). Can't they just be pagans who use different names? A pagan Europe would also include revivals of the Greek and Roman pantheons, the Anglo-Saxon variant (which really is just Asatru with different names), and Celtic religions, too.
White first, all else second.
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No.19468
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What is eastern germanic paganism?
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No.19469
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>>11617
Bridging the gap requires study of what survives in the Hungarian, Romanian and Serbian tradition as well as in the Circassian Nart Saga. The Vinca symbols are the initial starting point to all our understandings, but nobody knows what they mean. The Book of Veles though provides the cornerstone to the Slavic tradition and that's why I believe Ahnenerbe took it and why it has been illegal to possess in Russia. A designation of Scythian I think works for everyone but there are also Persian, Afghanistan and Indian similarities once you start seeing the other parallels which must also be taken into consideration.
Though we must be aware that there are places where our race once had a home that we no longer have. There, the people who now live there carried on the tradition brought to them by the Aryan race but most likely have corrupted our way in important ways due to their own racial interests. "How to decide such conflicts?", will become an important question when moving forward.
>>we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin
I don't see how you could think that is possible but I am willing to discuss how you came to that understanding and also provide you with my own.
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No.19470
>>19469
Romanian pagan folk religion is dacian though and the magyar one is yamnyao-ponto-scythian-derived with only minor germanic influences
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No.19475
A compromise between clean drinking water and shit will always be to the detriment of the water. Slav degenerates can fuck off.
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No.19628
>>11617
>Should we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin and that Perun's axe is basically related to Odin's hammer directly,
Bro you just posted cringe. Never post cringe bro.
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No.19629
This is either perfect bait, or well-intentioned but misinformed.
Very little information remains of ancient Slavic and Germanic religions - religion was constantly in flux and varied both regionally and over time. We know maybe 1% of what was practised, and there was no one true fixed doctrine.
That said, there is no way to reconcile two diverged branches with one another. You would need to reconstruct the root branch, which would involve guesswork and the resulting religion would have little authority to it and no true adherants.
The best solution imo is to learn from PIE religions how to correctly exist in the world, and follow this. If you want to reconcile PIE religions with one another, the way to do so is not by comparing gods and myths, but by a common view of how we should act and live our lives with respect to nature, our people, and our selves.
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