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A wizard is never late. Nor is he early; he arrives precisely when he means to.

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 No.607

Is there a worse character written by Tolkien than the mexican Scooby Doo?

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 No.608

wut

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 No.638

Took me a second.

Thanks for the laugh OP.

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 No.641

I don't know, I get the feeling that, since everything JRRT tried to write seemed to gravitate towards a central setting, I get the impression that Huan was him trying to find a place for Rover from Roverandom in the history of Arda.

If you don't know Roverandom, it's worth a Google. It's an example of how much simple fun Tolkien had in making up stories for people, especially his kids.

Is this because he beat your Husbando in a fair fight OP?

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 No.651

>>607

I don't know who this is

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 No.654

>>651

In the story of Beren & Luthien, Sauron gets in a bridge-fight with a wolfhound named Huan and loses.

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 No.660

>>641

>Is this because he beat your Husbando in a fair fight OP?

I actually really disliked a dog character being disloyal to its master and that being considered a good thing (mostly because he helps out the author self-insert). Yeah, his master was a dick, but Huan didn't even try to give councel to Celegorm with his limited speech ability that maybe making new enemies wasn't wise. He jumps on the team fated love literally without a word.

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 No.955

>>660

well you're in luck. There's bound to be an expansion on that subject in the new book coming out by Christopher Tolkien, the completed Tale of Beren and Lúthien. There's a thread discussing it right now in >>923

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 No.967

>>660

Celegorm was a son of Fëanor. He was doomed from the start because of the Oath.

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 No.972

>>967

Would a true friend (for possibly thousands of years) abandon someone just because the friend was doomed, especially with something as vague as Mandos' prophecy? Mercy for and patience with the wicked but possibly saveable seems like a big theme in Tolkien's work. Any utterance from Huan would have had extra weight for being so rare, so it should have been worth a try.

I don't know, I have this idea that an ideal sapient dog should be honorable to point of an idealized samurai. Disobeing a bad order ending something akin to sudoku and wise lecture. In Huan's case mere talking would have been a sacrfice enough.

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 No.974

>>972

I'm looking forward to finding out if Tolkien thought about this. Last I checked he wasn't much of a dog person though. But Loyalty is a powerful theme in his other works, so we'll see if it crossed his mind at all.

It could be that, being from Valinor and all, Huan was imbued with a higher sense of morality or destiny, but that feels like a bit of a cop-out to me.

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 No.975

>>974

>It could be that, being from Valinor and all, Huan was imbued with a higher sense of morality or destiny

This could very well be it. I'm suprised how strongly I feel about what might be an excuse side plot to inject the dog from paradise to the story of Beren and Luthien.

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