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What are some older anime from the 20th to early 21st century you anons enjoy? I truly loved a lot of the old fantasy and sci-fi anime as they had a level of polished and care that you don't see anymore.
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No.951000
>>950968
>space elves
Acktually, they're called "spelves"
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No.951002
>>950986
I'm downloading it.
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No.951003
>>950981
>Angel Cop
Started with potential and wasted it.
>Patlabor
Too short and goes nowhere
>Gunbuster
See: >>950933
<Except, it's boring as shit while riding on sci-fi cliches. Virgin Fleet did it all better, and that was just a promo for a game.
>Nadesico
One of the most infuriating shows I have ever watched, until I saw Genesis of Aquarion.
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No.951044
Started the Crusher Joe OVAs. I'm glad I did.
Going by episode 1 alone, which is what I've watched, they're pretty good. Unlike the movie.
I want to be under the full mass of Alfin's ass.
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No.951054
>>951003
>Started with potential and wasted
The animation and characterization goes to shit sure, but it gets points for the red pill it drops at the end.
>Too short and goes nowhere
Nigger what? Did you just watch the 1987 Patlabor OVAs without finishing off the movies too? Moreover Patlabor is a character driven comedy series (at least until the second movie), there's not much to go "anywhere". Until you at least watch the first 2 movies, you can't say shit about Patlabor.
>See my dumbass non-argument about Gunbuster being boring and "cliches" even though it's known i that it parodies mecha/scifi cliches
ftfy
>Nadesco is infuriating because i say so
Also not an argument.
Kill yourself.
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No.951055
>>950962
Yeah I should probably finish downloading it. I lied about being done with the series, I have 2 episodes left.
>>950999
I saw someone mention it because of the stream and figured I would give it a go. I knew about it from a while back but never considered picking it up until then. I'm glad I did, its pretty good. I can't think of anything outright that I want to complain of other than the girl not making up her fucking mind. I mean I get it, you are surrounded by all of these princes and kings rescuing you all the time but its so bad even she mentions it.
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No.951058
>>950925
>patlabor
<bad
only for this your entire list will be discarded
>>950757
I really enjoyed Blue Seed, it's about a group of gilrs that battle demons born of possessed magatamas also it has a nigger blacking the wh*toid female protagonist
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No.951059
>>951058
shoot, forgot the picture.
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No.951074
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No.951081
>>950925
>angel cop
>gunbuster
>patlabor
>shit
You fool. You utter buffoon.
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No.951083
>>950925
>Armitage III
>good
it's shit
it's good looking shit
but it's shit
the story is shit
sound is shit
there was no Armitage I
or Armitage II
it's shit
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No.951090
>>951081
angel cop is shit though, it takes right until the end to get to the actual plot and spends the rest of its time doing nonsensical fight scenes
patlabor is more of a comedy than anything else, it was really frustrating that the police were so incompetent at every level, in every episode and never ever got better. I liked the op though
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No.951102
>>951090
>patlabor is more of a comedy than anything else, it was really frustrating that the police were so incompetent at every level, in every episode
That's the appeal of its comedy you stupid nigger. Also, it's obvious you didn't watch the movies that take place after it. It sounds
>never ever got better
Nigger I bet you didn't even get to the 2 part episode "SV2's Longest Day", when shit gets serious.
Seriously, you have terminal shit taste and your parents should be ashamed for not aborting you when they had the chance.
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No.951105
>>951102
>have 1 serious arc resolved by the usual hijinks
wow what a change of pace!
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No.951112
>>951054
>The animation and characterization goes to shit sure, but it gets points for the red pill it drops at the end.
<It "good" because it makes a statement that agrees with my politics
Where have I seen this line of thinking before?
>Did you just watch the 1987 Patlabor OVAs without finishing off the movies too?
>Until you at least watch the first 2 movies, you can't say shit about Patlabor.
Does that mean I can tell this fag up here that he needs to watch Key all the way to the end before he can even declare if the series really is shit: >>950929
>it's known i that it parodies mecha/scifi cliches
Both Gunbuster and Nadesico are parodies? Then they must be even worse than I initially thought because Captain Tylor never had to resort to that excuse in order to be considered good.
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No.951116
>>951081
>angel cop
>Expecting a hard-boiled angel cop solving crimes in heaven-city with the help of his plucky demon sidekick/waifu
>it's just a girl with telekinesis
lame
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No.951142
>>951105
>acknowledges he didn't even finish it or watch the movies
wow you really are a retard with shit taste who can't formulate an argument!
>>951112
>It "good" because it makes a statement that agrees with my politics
<UR LIK DA ES JAA DUBYAS
Nice one reddit. I acknowledged its shortcomings (characters, animation) you faggot. All I'm saying is that it's not completely without merit considering it got away with saying shit no anime would dare try to say.
>Does that mean I can tell this fag up here that he needs to watch Key all the way to the end before he can even declare if the series really is shit
Considering you can finish the seven Patlabor OVAs and 2 movies in a fucking afternoon, yeah, no-taste anon should like an absolute retard for declaring the series shit. Doubly so considering he's reeeeing about the show's humor not impressing him as if that's the only thing it has to offer, despite Patlabors strength being both its humor and versatility in how it can seamlessly blend comedy, action, and politics in a compelling way.
If he didn't find the humor funny, fine, but dropping such a short show and declaring it objectively shit is just a mark of impatient faggotry. If he was talking about the 50+ episode TV series, then I'd give the benefit of the doubt as to not wanting to invest time in something he's not into.
>I DON'T FIND PARODIES FUNNY THEREFOR THEY ARE BAD!
Not an argument. Alternatively you might like Patlabor since it has almost no parodic humor at all.
>>951116
>it's not what i wanted therefor bad!
Not an argument.
>Expecting a hard-boiled angel cop solving crimes in heaven-city with the help of his plucky demon sidekick/waifu
>HIS
Did you even look at the key art to see who the MC was?
>it's just a girl with telekinesis
Who, Angel? She never gets telekinesis. The only loli waifu is Freya, who has pyro kinesis, and is only alive for 2-3 episodes.
The meme is true: old anime threads really do attract the dumbest normalfags on the site.
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No.951144
>>951142
>The meme is true: old anime threads really do attract the dumbest normalfags on the site.
still better than moefags tbh
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No.951145
>>951142
>All I'm saying is that it's not completely without merit considering it got away with saying shit no anime would dare try to say.
So the only reason why the show deserves any merit, despite being complete trash, is because it brings attention to the Kikes.
Yeah, I can definitely see where your taste in media lies.
>Patlabors strength being both its humor and versatility in how it can seamlessly blend comedy, action, and politics in a compelling way.
There's nothing "versatile" about it. The first couple episodes are a nice intro to the series, then it's filler, then it there's a "big" finish.
Rail Wars! and Daphne of the Brilliant Blue do everything that Patlabor was attempting (At least, going by all the stuff you're praising the show for), except they do it better.
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No.951150
>>951145
Red texting will get you nowhere nigger.
>why the show deserves any merit,
>is because it brings attention to the Kikes.
>Yeah, I can definitely see where your taste in media lies.
You lost >>>/reddit/ ? Can you point to a better a show that calls out kikes and their kikery? I'm genuinely interested.
>There's nothing "versatile" about it.
>(At least, going by all the stuff you're praising the show for)
So haven't seen it and are only going by impatient shit taste anon's testimony. Alright
RAIL WARS AND DAPHNE ARE ABSOLUTE SHIT IMITATIONS OF PATLABOR AND THAT'S ONLY GOING BY YOUR POSTS
>filler
Filler for what nigger? For having a few episodic stories that let the audience explore the characters more? Why are you bitching about this when you haven't seen the show?
>>951144
I'll take moeniggers who are at least somewhat knowledgeable about the shit they watch than posturing millenials who want act to like oldfags only to shit all over the stuff they claim to watch without any argument to back their shit opinions up.
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No.951154
>>951150
>For having a few episodic stories that let the audience explore the characters more?
How does two episodes, in a seven episode series, wasted on sea monsters and ghost stories (When the entire point of the series is labor mechs being used to commit illegal activity) help develop the plot and explore the characters?
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No.951159
>>951154
>help develop the plot and explore the characters?
>sea monsters
Was a detective story meant to introduce Matsui.
>ghost stories
Ancillary to the main point of the crew needing more discipline since they're rookies who are still learning to work together and can't into things like hostage negotiation.
>When the entire point of the series is labor mechs being used to commit illegal activity
Nigger, there's more to it than that. Did you not see >>951142
>Patlabors strength being both its humor and versatility in how it can seamlessly blend comedy, action, and politics in a compelling way.
Don't bother red texting another non-argument again.
>help develop the plot
The first half is blatantly episodic meant to establish the characters and their personalities and it's not until the two-part Longest Day that a relevant plot is established. You'd know that if you finished it.
You honestly sound like a genuine normalfag who watches old stuff with the same mentality of currently airing shit, expecting to be instantly gratified week-to-week not realizing these episodes were released months apart that allowed the creators play around with story telling and characterization. Moreover, it's made by Mamuro Oshii, so bitching about story telling that doesn't cater to your underdeveloped brain is fruitless.
Stop posting until you've watched more shit.
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No.951170
>>951159
>You honestly sound like a genuine normalfag who watches old stuff with the same mentality of currently airing shit, expecting to be instantly gratified week-to-week not realizing these episodes were released months apart that allowed the creators play around with story telling and characterization.
So, you're telling me that I cannot "fully appreciate" the series unless I watch each episode after X amount of time? Does that mean I cannot criticize a manga or comic for being rushed in it's story since the 6 chapter series was released over the span of 6 months, and I read it all in under 2 hours? Or, I cannot criticize even a weekly show because I managed to watch it all in the span of a week when it aired over the span of four months? Or, I cannot criticize a movie series for having such a drastic shift in tone between entries when those films were developed over the span of twenty years and I just watched each successive one every night?
Get the fuck out of here with your elitist mindset.
Patlabor is an under developed series that starts with an interesting premise, drops it, then finishes things off with having to explain everything to the viewer and leaving people wanting more. The very fact that the last episode deals with a mech designed for military use, and it being a secret, is really the ONLY time the show actually does take any time to develop the world it's placed in instead of just existing. Why isn't there more explored in regards to how the mechs helped shape the future of Tokyo and the world? Why is there some concern about environmental impact that is then swept under the rug? Why are mechs being designed for military use towards the end of the series instead of earlier? Why is the Patlabor force called in to handle hostage situations when there isn't a mech involved? Why is Tokyo in a constant traffic jam that seems to disappear when convenient? Why isn't the schism between the rich kid and his parents company explored more? Why is the big feminine guy all alone and what happened to his father? What was that talk between the American cop and her partners about? Why isn't the past between the chief and the revolutionary leader given further detail if the guy was willing to destroy the city? Why is the only labor crime shown in regards to just petty thieves and the coup at the end? You keep talking about how "versatility is the shows strength", but, I hate to break it down for you, that would mean the the show would be placed under something akin to a "slice of life" series; WHICH IT IS NOT. First episode is comedy, second is action, third and forth are comedy, and the last three episodes are action. Also, why do you keep trying to talk about how "politics" is important to the series when ONLY ONE OF THE DAMN EPISODES HAD TO DEAL WITH IT, AND IT WAS THE FILLER GHOST STORIES EPISODE. If you're talking about the guy taking over Tokyo is political, then you might as well consider every 007 and M:I story political as well. Why are you wasting so much time defending a series that honesty isn't good. It does has some neat ideas, which other shows have followed up on and done better, but there's nothing special about it outside of the animation.
>Moreover, it's made by Mamuro Oshii
Who?
https://anidb.net/creator/131
Oh, he did Sky Crawlers and the Dragon Ball story for Halo Legends.
>so bitching about story telling that doesn't cater to your underdeveloped brain is fruitless.
Just because someone is able to make a good product doesn't mean that they can't fuck up and release a stinker every now and then. Tonokatsu Hideki did Hyper Speed Gran Doll and Wolf and Spice II, which I love, but that doesn't mean I'm going to defend Genesis of Aquarion. Itano Ichirou did the first Digimon Tamers film and Magic Users Club, but that doesn't mean I'm going to defend Patlabor or Angel Cop. Kodera Katsuyuki did Bomberman Jetters and Kachou Ouji, but that doesn't mean I'll defend Magi. Oomori Takahiro did Durarara, but Anons really had to severely pull my leg to consider eventually giving Samurai Flamenco a second chance after dropping it.
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No.951173
Please to stop FIGHT! Everyone is a friend in their love for old soynime so there's no need foru ncalled for RUDE
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No.951174
>>951173
Are you getting ebin wordfiltered or are you just being your cum guzzling, niggerloving self?
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No.951180
>>951002
It's fun. I should get around to seeing the film.
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No.951182
>>951174
he's an idolfag shitposter from /tv/ [/spoiler]but i sometimes find him funny[/spoiler]
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No.951190
>>951170
(You)
>>951182
>[/spoiler]
Greetings cuckchannel.
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No.951191
>>951190
[/spoiler] works fine, just typo'd the first one.
If you're retarded enough to not realize that, you might as well go back to reddit, newfag
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No.951208
>>951142
>Did you even look at the key art to see who the MC was?
No until I googled it
> She never gets telekinesis
Well I saw the word somewhere when I skimmed through it
Still boring
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No.951210
Just watched a wind named amnesia... and I must say it kind of seems self contridictory. Basically, it's about aliens somehow forcing all of mankind to have amnesia to see if they are worth of assimulation... but the thing is, a character in this movie said they had been watching humanity for 50 million years. So, there really is a lack of logic here. They have already viewed humanity in their primitive state so I don't understand what they mean by "what it is that drives man". They've already had plenty of time to determine that. By wipping memories from humanity, all you have left is a determination to survive. I also don't understand the concept of wandering around for essentially no reason when there is virtually nothing worthy of note besides ruins, and no intelligable people around to talk to anyway. This type of thing honestly ruins the adventure genre for me.
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No.951222
Random shot in the dark but I tried to make an Urusei Yatsura blu-ray encode a few months ago, I dropped it because I couldn't get something right. If someone finds a fix I can work on a release.
I stopped because I couldn't get it to have the same timebase as the horrible [Kagura] release so I could use the [Last Resort Encodes] subtitles which have been retimed for it, avoiding having to time 195 episodes of subtitles myself. If someone figures out how to remux the BDs so they have the same timebase as [Kagura] (and I can't just import his timebase, doing that is error prone and a lot of manual work), I could remux them myself and make the encode. I can quite easily make something that'll be the best encode of the series by a large margin, I'm experienced with x264.
Here is a single comparison shot, the third image is a differential image. The darker a pixel is on the third image, the closer my encode is to the original. Completely black means exactly the same. I think my test encode already looks mostly fine and it could use plenty of tweaking still, the bitrate is about a quarter of the original's. (full TV series on BD - 1.4 terabytes. I want to be not too far from 350GB)
>>951210
I tried to watch that one but I dropped it because it has completely borked telecining and I couldn't find a release which fixed it nor fix it myself. It triggers my autism too much.
I got 15 minutes in and it was good up until then though.
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No.951223
>>951222
Good work anon I wish I knew more so I could help.
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No.951224
>>951191
>[/spoiler] when ** works as well
>NO UR REDDIT
That's nice >>>/cuckchannel/
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No.951225
>>951208
>Well I saw the word somewhere when I skimmed through it
So you didn't even finish it? Why is everyone in this thread admitting to only pursuing through portions of shit they act like they're experts on?
>>951222 (checked)
What's the bitrate of the original BDs anon? Have you tried encoding in HEVC?
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No.951226
>>951225
I haven't tried doing this in HEVC, but I've done HEVC encodes with x265 in the past and learned that if there's even a little grain it actually performs worse than x264/h264, and that's mostly why I haven't bothered.
The bitrate is nearly 40mbps, or about the maximum allowed by the BD spec. It's a really good blu-ray release, from a really good master.
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No.951228
>>951224
I bet you use MPC too instead of the superior VLC
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No.951232
>>951228
>superior VLC
Not even trying, are you?
>>951226
>but I've done HEVC encodes with x265 in the past and learned that if there's even a little grain it actually performs worse than x264/h264
What? Are you saying grain doesn't hold up in hevc? Or that it takes longer to decode?
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No.951233
>>951150
>t. buttblasted moenigger
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No.951234
>>951232
x265 is the only h265 encoder I used. x265 can compress less efficiently than x264 if your source is grainy, and it doesn't take much grain. The difference is less obvious at smaller bitrates, but at 1080p once you're near or over around 8-10mbps x264 takes off with much better image quality at the same bitrate.
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No.951235
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No.951891
Anyone know some old anime with good OPs/EDs/soundtrack/character songs which aren't Anime Pop? Basically, anime music, that is not evidently "anime music" at all and simply sounds like regular music, and good music at that.
The less obvious and the more buried it is the better, but anything is fine.
Here are some examples:
I'm talking stuff like Lodoss which everyone has heard of and has been beaten to death in these threads, but what not everyone knows is that it pretty much created its own genre of music with a whole CD's worth of amazing unique character songs such as https://files.catbox.moe/ikqcm5.ogg scattered around its soundtrack CDs. Highly recommended you download everything and find them.
Or Rose of Versailles, which I haven't actually watched or read so I don't know if they pop up in the anime. But the soundtrack CD amazingly features more song than soundtrack and most of them are great. Here are two: https://files.catbox.moe/rxkxr7.ogg https://files.catbox.moe/mar7z0.ogg
Here's a nice city pop song from Megazone 23's vocal collection: https://files.catbox.moe/a2hrcr.ogg
Here's the other song released in the same CD as Serial Experiments Lain's opening, it's quite decent. It's some late 90s rock music with maybe a very light touch of grunge or punk: https://files.catbox.moe/fo713b.ogg
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No.951950
Dominion tank police is fun
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No.952877
Thanks to Eizouken, I binged Future Boy Conan and loved it.
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No.952882
>>952877
At least it finally brought some good to this world.
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No.952884
GenoCyber is fucking terrible, but I love it.
It's not only nonsensical, excessively vulgar and tasteless and boring, but the actual production of the physical media is lazy as fuck as well.
The 1st OVA's credits on Manga Video's VHS release is literally a spinning jpg of the main character nude. The 2nd OVA spends 20 mins building up the next fight and ends on the first punch, saying "fuck you, buy the next tape."
Watch it or don't. I'm not your dad and I'm definitely not going to fingerblast you on-screen behind an x-ray machine.
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No.952887
>>952884
>GenoCyber is fucking terrible, but I love it.
summarized it well
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No.952899
Laughing Salesman is pretty funny. Half the time he ruins someone's life for breaking his promises, the other half he does it just for the shits and giggles.
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No.953085
>>950796
BDs for that are still rolling in. At least encodes of them are, I haven't checked the exact release dates.
I imagine the best time to watch will be soon but not now, as the bulk of encodes and maybe fansubs come soon after a release.
I mean for fuck's sake the only BD encode of the main series is by Moozzi2.
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No.953889
>>950960
It was very good, but fuck me if that ending wasn't the most bittersweet thing I've seen in a while. Really good ending song too.
I've been watching the original Sailor Moon, I've read through the manga, but I wanted to see how it was. Lots of filler, but I don't mind since we get to see the scouts have fun.
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