No.949768
Does anyone still remember the good old days of the huge moe craze during the 2000s?
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No.949769
K-ON was a good anime! Fuck anyone who disagrees!!!
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No.949771
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No.949782
>>949771
>forced nostalgiafagging
>good old days
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No.949785
>>949782
>using the term nostalgiafagging
>good old days
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No.949789
Moe killed anime. It's pandering that turns shows into dollhouses and infects people with faggotry. Case in point: it's what brought the jewSA into anime; as long as anime was about robots and starships, the faggots kept well away.
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No.949791
>>949789
Moe has been in anime since the very beginning, there's vintage moe that dates back decades.
Westerners who that thought if moe as a thing that began ruining anime in the 00s are a bunch of Toonami kiddies that only watched the very few shonen shows that got localized into their cable networks like CN.
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No.949793
>>949789
Wrong, nigger.
Moeshit kept normalniggers out who were put off by shows featuring girls acting like ideal girls and not trannies. Moreover, the anime industry is built on waifus and cute girls.
>it's what brought the jewSA into anime
Nope, that was all the entry level shit you watched on cartoon network.
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No.949796
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>>949791
The first is a cartoon for children and has better writing and action than the average piece of shit moe genre pieces pandering to full grown adults with no taste.
It's one thing to have girls on bunny suits surfing on a guitar, it's another to make a whole anime based on boring as fuck real life where literally nothing happens.
There was anime with cute characters, but not whole fucking series of literally nothing hapening, stuff lke Azumanga and Nichijou was actually funny and was cute at the same time.
K-O was absolute trash but at least had good animation, newer shows don'teven have that going for them.
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No.949797
>>949793
It's one thing to have cute lolis on your anime, it's another to have them do nothing for the whole show.
>who were put off by shows featuring girls acting like ideal girls and not trannies
And yet tr/a/nnies and f/a/gs love moeshit and cuntpaste it all over their Dickscords.
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No.949803
>>949796
>>949797
Then you agree moe isn't shit, just that moe isn't good as it was.
Moe and waifus are a pillar for the medium, if that triggers you then find a new hobby and be a retarded unread nigger in that.
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No.949810
>>949797
>normalfags
>normalfags
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>trannies
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>X likes Y, so I can't like Y!
The opinions and doings of Westerners and normalfags do not matter. Not one bit. Only Japan and Otaku's opinions do, and then China, and then the rest of Asia, and in the a very very very far fourth position does the West and it's opinions matter or affect anime in any away. The West's taste is trash, it's opinions are trash. Most of the bitching comes from the fact that anime isn't western enough or mature enough for mature Cartoon Network and Toonami viewers.
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No.949811
You are wrong OP. It was not primarily a moe craze. It was a Harem craze. You had harems everywhere and they were fucking shit. The moe however, was good.
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No.949814
The moe craze was actually so GREAT! Lots of differing and evolving artstyles/aesthetics as each studio produced their own varying versions. I miss it
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No.949816
>>949791
>>949793
>b-but children shows were always moe
Wrong, because children shows are for smart kids while moe is for stunted growth adults. Actual children animus can be unexpectedly smart and daring: they deal with morality in harmless, but also disarming ways. By comparison, moe is just a rumination of faggotry built on a common agreement: that everyone will pretend it's serious business instead of cheap gay shit. Essentially moe culture has the same role of My Little Pony inthe west.
>MOESHIT IS NOT NEWFAGS!!
4chan is responsible for popularizing moeshit and conversely anime in America. Anime communities were not born on imageboards, and the results of that dominance are for everyone to see. Anime have degenerated into memes for dull losers who all believe they're misunderstood geniuses with a comic streak.
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No.949824
Moeshitters are exactly like horsefuckers. There is literally no difference. Grown men watching gay cutsie shit for little girls and then going on the internet and masturbating to the characters.
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No.949827
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>>949803
I'm fine with moe, mostly on good shows that fall out of a genre dedicated to it.
I'm not fine with moe being the shit genre it currently is.
>>949810
>Moeshit kept normalfags and trannies out
>That isn't the case
>Western opinions don't matter
I guess that's why the Boku no Hero and SOE faggots are censoring their works now, I guess that's why KyoAni censored the Dragon Maid adaptation for western audiences.
Open your fucking eyes retard
Regardless, moe is fine, moe is trash as a genre and you can't prove me wrong.
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No.949863
>>949816
>Wrong, because children shows are for smart kids while moe is for stunted growth adults.
And yet here you are posting on a taiwanese tapestry forum like a serious mature adult.
>Actual children animus can be unexpectedly smart and daring
They can also be simple and stupid because they're for an audience who's brains haven't developed yet. And even if they're "smart", no one will think you're an exceptional individual for watching them, they'll just think you're an autistic loser faggot just like how you see moeshitters.
>By comparison, moe is just a rumination of faggotry built on a common agreement: that everyone will pretend it's serious business instead of cheap gay shit.
Yes, because as we all know those disposable MANIME ovas made in the 80s and early 90s directed by young idiots who were just barely learning how to write a screenplay and often couldn't manage a budget were high art.
>4chan is responsible for popularizing moeshit
Keep going newfag. Moe was already a thing in Japan by the time 4cuck came into existence. All 4cuck did was bring it to attention of moe to westerners.
>and conversely anime in America
No, that was all that entry level Toonami/Adult Swim shit from roughly 1998 to 2004. Goddamn you're underage.
>Anime communities were not born on imageboards, and the results of that dominance are for everyone to see.
I think it's safe to concur you're an ESL nigger who didn't even read the sentence you posted before that one.
>Anime have degenerated into memes for dull losers who all believe they're misunderstood geniuses with a comic streak.
<t. exceptional individual posting on Filipino Flipbook board about how he's special because he watches other cartoons without little girls in them
>>949824
>Grown men watching gay cutsie shit for little girls
Again, you're not any better for watching different cartoons that aren't moe or CGDCT, you're just a different type of autistic faggot that's no better than the rest of us.
>and then going on the internet and masturbating to the characters.
Welcome to what weebs and otaku have done for literally decades with any anime that had attractive character female designs, even before the internet no less.
Do I need to post the images of how westerners have an incredibly retarded narrow view of anime? You anti-moe fags can go be reeeeeing niggers >>>/animu/ in the mean time.
>>949827
>I'm fine with moe
Then quit being a nigger.
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No.949869
>>949863
>you're not any better for watching different cartoons that aren't moe or CGDCT
You know, anon, you can watch cartoons and still be a normal funcional human being. The fact that you watch those shows because of your autism doesn't mean everyone also do it.
But you are kinda right, watching other shows doesn't make me better than you
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No.949874
>>949827
>western audiences
There's your problem. Western audiences do not matter. That's why localization companies can do whatever they want with Western releases.
Because Western opinions do not matter. They do not matter one bit. Their sales are unimportant, their financial contribution is unimportant. They do not matter.
If Japan wants source material censored, then it'll get it censored.
If China wants source material censored then they'll get it censored.
If Asia wants something censored, then maybe if they screech enough, but the lack China's sales and influence.
If the West wants something censored, then the Western version gets censored because the Japanese anime industry really doesn't give a shit about the Western region so they let gaijins edit the releases as they please. Because you guessed it, the average Western fan is retarded and their opinions are unimportant.
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No.949885
>>949869
>you can watch cartoons and still be a normal funcional human being
You can tell that to yourself so you'll sleep at night. No one else will think you're normal because it's ingrained even in Japan that watching cartoons as a hobby in adulthood is for NEETs and maladjusted manchildren. Even sadder is you come here trying to use normalfaggotry as an argument. Go back to MAL.
>The fact that you watch those shows because of your autism doesn't mean everyone also do it
Nigger I never said everyone should watch them, just that niggers here understand moe as a concept is a pillar of the medium for longer than you think. Fix your shitskin English.
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No.949887
>official thread for "moe"
Reeks of old/a/. A shame because some moe anime is good.
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No.950030
>>949793
This argument has always been retarded
>moeshit exists to deter normalfags
>yet normalfags still took over anime
So we're left with moeshit pandering taking up the markets to "gatekeep" normalfags despite normalfags being their own market (ex: swordartonline fans).
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No.950057
I remember it but without nostalgia.
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No.950082
>>949816
>>949793
Anime in the west started with American boomers holding conventions in the 1970s. That's when the random people who were previously importing material went public and it became a true fandom.
In Latin America in specific it actually started even earlier with the large number of Japanese immigrants bringing Japanese products which included 1960s anime.
It became mainstream before most of us were born, in the mid/late 70s and early 80s, with "western" cartoons animated in Japan or stuff like Gatchaman that your father/grandfather watched.
I grew up watching dubbed fist of the north star in the 90s you thick niggers, how do you get more mainstream than that?
Moe doesn't put off normalfags, moe IS normalfaggotry.
They ironically watch it. They compete to see who watches the worst moeshit trash so they can say "h-haha I'm such a weeb xP". Then they say thing such as "anime was never good" when they're the reason it's not good right now. Anyone who doesn't realize this is either a normalfag or too autistic to understand normalfag speech.
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No.950083
>>950082
American mainstream anime fandom got a late start compared to most of Europe and South America because TV was dominated by the (((usual suspects))) that didn't want any competition. You got some stuff brought over as children's cartoons (Robotech), but even Dragonball took forever to show up on American TV after the rest of the world was already sick of it. It wasn't until Sailor Moon that a big normalfag contingent began to really show up in American anime fandom.
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No.950230
i'm just gonna post patchy
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No.950485
>>950030
if you look at the shit normalfags consume it's mostly not moeshit, so the argument isn't too far fetched (unless they're LE IRONIC WEEB running around with a ahegao hoodie)
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No.952880
Moé artstyles of the 2010s is just disgustingly low-tier otakubait. It's literally not worth spending money on, yet they cater to the lowest common denominator and rake in cash. It's like the McDonalds of anime, unhealthy and cheap.
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No.952967
I just finished Anima Yell. It wasn't that great but it was very cute. It had a sort of GochiUsa vibe to it. I've also been watching Cinderella Nine. It's good but sometimes the art style and the tone of the writing clash. The episode about the girl with the alcoholic parents took me by surprise. I really wasn't expecting something like that from CGDCT show.
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No.954201
>>949824
But, alot of the gay cutsie shit is made for adult men
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