/wooo/ - Pro Wrestling

I've seen this site take a pro-SJW stance in the past, so this was refreshing.

>>123625

Name one site that isn't poz-, you can't. Most sites are pozzed by Sjws (Anything that uses Disqus is more or less owned by leftist sjws).

>>123629

Ratings are getting worse, and people aren't going to shows like they used to. People are going to other divisions and local indies more than WWE shows because they're sick of the Sjw shit, Lousy Rousey/Bork burying others while getting rewards for being celebrities, or shit booking like BLM Banks and Booley going horribly wrong (how do you ruin this angle?!). Why should anyone bother if they're going to push someone like Ruru only to see him get fucked over in a PPV while they secretly force Ramen and Sjw shit down their throats (Vince is trying to be sneaky with Ramen now)?

>The saddest part is that these pieces of shit don't actually care about wrestling (or any other subject they latch onto for that matter).

They don't care. Cartoons, porn, tabletops (Games Workshop is slowly getting pozzed), and comics have been ruined, and the people can't do shit or don't bother (Comic readers are the biggest cucks who hypocritically support SjwMarvel by buying comics and supporting the shitty MCU movies).

>>123624

i got a 72 hour ban from /asp/ for saying I didn't want to watch Evolution

>>123630

The pay per view will likely bomb and then they will have to go full damage control or just admit it's not a draw. Not that anything they have is a draw any more. It's clear WWE is completely out of touch with what people want these days and the hardcore fans are going else where.

>>123637

I want to bolieve that but WWE fans can be super retarded, spending their time and money just because it's WWE, always eating the shit they are served. Remember there are many people who bolieve that the shitty Sasha Banks vs Charlotte Hell in a Cell match was a good match, heck fans were cheering it was good in the arena as well right?

This is the best fucking thing I've read from KN for more than a year. Just when I think they've gone full cuck they release something like this. Either this was written completely ironically and their irony is lost on our entirety, or this was written by someone who was removed from KN as a writer last night for "completely unrelated" reasons.

>>123637

Not even Kenny and NJPW shit can save the WWE (it'll get some dimes from the soyboys and NJPW fags, but then Vinny will ruin it while Kenny acts like the cunt he is).

>>123642

>Porn has always been a tool of the kike, you degenerate numbskull.

Everyone will tell you that and how scummy it is you dummy ;but the shit they did to people like August Aimes when the sjws attacked her makes me sick and despise liberalism and sjws even more. Also Sasha Grey is a piece of shit and a scum bag like Ron "rapist" Jeremy (I read his book, and I wanted to punch the guy in the face after reading it because he brags about being a pimp).

>Stop watching it and you will return to a healthy state of mind and your testosterone will go up.

One step ahead of you, as I've been cutting down on the porn dating life is still shit, but I got other things to deal with

I just wonder what their smelly oily tights smell like, Mr. Mahon.

haha

>>123629

I warned you faggots about Daniel Bryan, CM Punk and the whole "indie"-movement. I warned you about the faggotry in NXT and you didn´t fucking listen. I could immediatly notice how fucking faggy these "fans" were, just how much of commie-scum enveloping wrestling around 2012 with the start of hating real men in wrestling and praising "work-rate" and "good matches" which coincidentally always mean't faggy wrestlers with no physique got praised.

I fucking warned you faggots and now you reap what you sow. Fuck off.

>>123645

>NJPW

Is part of the fucking problem. Fuck, the whole western push of making NJPW popular in the west is directed by the SJW-faggots who latched onto wrestling. Then you have faggots like dirtsheet writers sucking the cocks of that company aswell, it says it all, it's a way to subvert japanese pro wrestling aswell (which doesn't translate at all into the more showy, entertainment driven american wrestling anyway). And watching it, it's fucking gay-wrestling, i bet half of them are in gay porno aswell.

>>123662

Just throwing it out there, but SJW-faggots are only bottom feeding off of Being The Elite. They are mostly ROH marks that latch onto New Japan when Bucks and Kenny are relevant, and don't have much fondness for that company that is emplying OMG LITERALLY LIKE A TOTAL ALMOST RAPIST MIKE ELGIN or RACIST STEREOTYPE GOTO. All that keeps them there is The Elite and OMG LIJ ARE LIKE PROGRESSIVE BUSHI WEARS NAIL POLISH AND LIPSTICK I SHIP NAITO AND HIROMU uWu

That is before you get to the fact that they completely neglect other Japanese or Mexican companies, these fuckers never watched a Michinoku Pro match or Big Japan match and never will, and probably have never enjoyed even big Mexican promotions like CMLL, AAA or Crash.

Regarding WWE, they have been on the decline with retaining fans since probably halfway through Ruthless Aggression, PG era killed most of their old core and now that it is falling out of fashion to watch pro wrasslin for the lefty fuckwits the group that they hitched their wagon to in late PG is not giving Trips and Steph the ticket sales they need.

tl;dr the SJW-faggots aren't responsible for New Japan getting big in the west, they are largely responsible for the growth of ROH in the last couple of years (even as ROH has bled its long faithful fanbase due to decreased match quality and increased dramatic bullshit) and the pushing of US style angles in NJPW. NJPW has been growing mainly due to it finally having a distribution model that means you don't have to be a tape trader to see it, tbh. WWE was already dying in Ruthless Aggression, before the fuckwits showed up.

This course will correct itself, bookers will book what makes money, just don't support shit you don't like. Positives, Impact is doing surprisingly well with Pritchard and co involved, New Japan seems to be finally correcting their course, NOAH and All Japan are having a resurgence, and hopefully WOS can help the poms navigate away from "smashing patriarchy" fed pandering.

>>123667

Reddit is pushing that shit hard

>>123667

Basically what >>123668 said, its a combination of Goto sticking up for the Japanese wrestlers in interviews which makes them sad because it means that KENNY and The Bucks are not free from criticism, and the fact that Goto is a character based on what the Japanese people see as being Japanese spirit and nationalism, not the fuckwits anime based idea of what makes a TOP WARRIOR.

Naito and Bushi get away with criticising some of their sacred cows because fags have latched onto LIJ in the last year or two which much like them latching onto BC has been fucking annoying for people who just appreciate the workers but Goto is basically the Japanese equivalent of the FUCKING WHITE MALE that they loathe.

>>123666

>OMG LIJ ARE LIKE PROGRESSIVE BUSHI WEARS NAIL POLISH AND LIPSTICK I SHIP NAITO AND HIROMU uWu

People really think that? Fucking hell. Also I remember a few years ago I think in 2016, Bushi also said that he disliked that there were too many foreigners in the Jr. Division.

>>123662

Meltzer has been kissing Nippon's wrestling for years dude.

>>123669

wtf I love Goto now

>>123675

wait a minute what am I saying I always love him

>>123674

It only got popular with faggot crowds when bullet club became popular.

>>123736

Not quite. Bullet Club was already popular among wrestling fans. What made the faggot crowds jump on the wagon was when AJ (sad irony of ironies), Nakamura (funny because he was in Chaos) and Devitt came to Hartford. This made all of the soys that had infected WWE in the past few years jump on the bandwagon of people who were genuinely excited to see these guys stateside again to prove that they were "real wrasslin fans" which then meant that they had to look to where those people came from, which then really introduced them into Being The Elite (which honestly is the most accessible way for a fan new to Japanese wrestling to see into what it was, at least it was a couple of years ago before it became 99% storyline) and now you have them awkwardly trying to start WWE chants at NJPW west coast shows.

>>123661

Flippy shit is probably the fault of people like Foley and the Hardies. They would have these dumb over the top stunts every match and people came to think that's what the non-mastadon guys had to do to get noticed. WCW had the midget division full of flippy shit as well. Basically The attitude era mid carders fucked up the industry because it's easier to doa back flip off a ladder and get a pop than it is to do a slow grindy match and tell a story.

>>123666

New Japan is growing because Japan finally figured out the internet exists and they can make a shit load of cash by putting their shit on it.

>>123642

This is why drawn porn in one way is less bad than the real shit. More likely to find solo content so you aren't being a cuck watching another man fuck a woman and are instead jerking it to just that woman. The drawback of that of course is drawn tends to have more and worse fetishes thrown in that fuck you up mentally if you fall down the rabbit hole.

wwe is dead, i blame the beta soyboy bugmen fans at whatculture, wrestletalk and of course our BASED jew dave meltzer

>>123736

Yeah but Meltzer has been kissing nip wrestling's ass since the 80s.

>>123941

Why the fuck don't they put Henry in the ring, that vacuum cleaner would be more over than any of whatculture.

>>123942

Meltzer is the original and mother of all smarks

>>123948

This is true, he at least acknowledges Hogan as the biggest draw ever though.

>>124087

When it comes to the IWC, two things are always certain:

>1. They will always have the darling du jour that ends up in WWE a few years later

>2. They will always shit on Hogan and his achievements

Hogan vs. Rock only has 3 stars, and the previous title match between HHH and HHH only has 2. The former was literally the transitional match between the Golden Era, who had stayed relevant throughout Attitude, and the Ruthless Aggression Era, who practically started from scratch once Austin and Rock left.

In wrestling, one shouldn't rate a match purely on workrate alone; the overness with the crowd and historic value should be considered too. The Icon vs. Icon match at WM X-8 should have another star and a half easily, based on those two additional merits.

A particularly recent and very pathetic example of their astroturfing is how they suggest Hogan was only big in America. Straight off the bat, I can give you three reasons why that's bullshit:

==Everyone knows what the Rocky films are.== Everyone knows the villains in each of them. Apollo Creed (which doesn't really count), Clubber Lang, Thunderlips and Ivan Drago.

Until Stan Hansen and Vader, he was the biggest Gaijin the Japanese wrestling scene had ever seen

Plus he had an admirable workrate that American crowds never saw.

Britwres died in 1987 after Big Daddy Shirley Crabtree not Kevin Nash was partly responsible for King Kong Kirk's death.

Now tell me, what else happened in 1987 with regards to wrestling? How did it remain popular in the UK, considering WCW never aired there until its dying days in a cut-down format?

>>124089

>missed dubs and fucked up first line of redtext

kill me pls

>>124087

I will say one thing in defence of Meltzer rating it poorly, and I say this as someone who doesn't have much fondness for Dave.

Hogan slamming Andre had actually been done multiple times before in house shows. Iirc, it had actually been done on TV at least once before. Part of me thinks that the "experience" of Hogan slamming Andre was already old news for Meltzer, who had already covered it happening before, and as somebody who actually likes the bout, take that element away and it is a pretty shit match, worse than what either of them could usually provide in that era.

Not a fan of big Dave, but just my two cents on the matter.

>>123756

There are plenty of pictures of naked women out there. It goes without saying that jerking off to the naked female form is leagues better than jerking off to a pair of strangers fucking. Jerking off to memories of your own sexual experience is better. Not jerking off at all is best.

>>124089

tbh Hogan Rock is kinda overrated Hogan had much more entertaining ones when he faced Savage and Warrior.

Also, wtf do you mean by "the match between HHH vs HHH"?

>>124154

>Jerking off to memories of your own sexual experience is better.

That's only if you had any.

>>124156

If you're a virgin then that's all the more reason not to poison your mind and damage your sexuality with disgusting jewish smut before you've even experienced sex. Keep yourself in harmony with nature, reject the degeneracy that the kikes want you to embrace.

>>124159

>>124156

Listen to this man. It's too late for me. It might not be for you.

>this thread

>>124089

Have you seen Rocky 3? Thunderlips isn't the villain of that movie, he's just a cameo. He appears for like 2 minutes as an example of how Rocky has fallen and lost his edge. He's doing stupid gimmick charity events while he has the belt and is only being put up against chumps. Mr. T is the villain of the movie because he's a street kid ready to beat the shit out of any one he needs to for validation.

The movie doesn't make a big deal out of Hogan. Hogan just plays an overly aggressive heel wrestler who hurts Rocky while Rocky thinks they're having a little fun for the charity and isn't taking it seriously. He appears and is gone in the first act. The focus then switches entirely over to Rocky and Apollo retraining Rocky to make him hungry again and fight like a negro and not a white guy.

The two big plot points of the movie are that Rocky needs to get the eye of the tiger back and that Rocky needs to learn to fight like a negro instead of a tanky white guy. Up until this point Rocky has just refused to stay down, he's let his opponents beat him senseless and then wont he war of attrition. He can't do that against Clubber Lang as he's much younger and Rocky's health is in decline. Rocky would likely die if he just tried to tank it. Instead Apollo retrains him so he's more agile and weaving more, taking on a style similar to Apollos own.

So apparently "everyone knows who the villains are" except you don't know the villains.

>>124277

Literally his worst album, it's not bad but the others are a lot better, his best ones are Filosofem & Fallen

>>124089

>Plus he had an admirable workrate that American crowds never saw.

He had a few tricks he'd pull out in Japan like the drop toe hold into a front face lock which he'd do in practically every match but the more I watch of Hogan, the more I think he was actually better in the US. Seriously, he was more good than bad, at least in the 80s. He just got lazy sometimes.