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 No.1317

Yo, let's get this slow-ass board back into gear with a Pokemon thread.

And by that I mean let's talk Gen 1. The first, and invariably one that kickstarted something big.

Gen 2 is welcome as well in case 151 just isn't enough for ya.
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 No.1323

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I think the biggest reason it was so successful is because it captured the spirit of adventure and exploration better than a lot of other games (certainly more so than other JRPGs).

It wasn't a generic medieval fantasy land, and your fuckhuge party didn't get boring weapon upgrades from the local smithy at pre-determined intervals: they grew flamethrowers and water-cannons.

I realised these were the aspects I liked most about the Pogeymans when I first booted up Stadium and was greeted with Cockfighting Spreadsheet 2000, where only the raw mathematics of any of it mattered.
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 No.1327

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I have to say that I liked the ol' Gen 1 only Toxic/Leech Seed combo where "badly PSN" and Leech seed double up on each other. Shame it wouldn't work right if the CPU/Player switches out seeing as how "badly PSN" reverts into regular PSN upon switching out and switching back in.

I also like how Blastoise is quite versatile in game in R/B/Y or R/G/B/Y.
90Acc. Blizzard, Surf, and Earthquake suit it fine.

Anyway, as much as I appreciate and respect Gen 1 as the Gen that started it all, I still don't like how the Rival's Champion team in R/G/B had pisspoor movesets.
For instance:
>Exeggutor's moveset is Hypnosis-Barrage-Stomp
>Rhydon's moveset is Tail Whip-Leer-Horn Attack-Stomp

But at least his Yellow Champion team is somewhat better, though Exeggutor is still shit but with Leech Seed added.

Pokemon Stadium still kicks ass in general though.
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 No.1345

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What's your favorite gen 1 Pokemon?
Mine was pic related slash was all you needed.
Shame about how bad persian is in the newer games.
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 No.1347

>>1345
It was always so satisfying to see the following!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>Enemy __ fainted!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>Enemy __ fainted!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>Enemy __ fainted!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>PERSIAN used SLASH!
>Critical hit!
>Enemy __ fainted!
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 No.1348

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>mfw bought all of JP of Gen 1 for the price of 2 US copies of Gen 1
>tfw still have yet to learn JP so I get fucked after Brock since I have no idea what moves everyone gets after leveling up and refuse to look at translations or guides for some reason
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 No.1349

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>>1348
>assign move on level up
>tall grass
>"oh, it's Tail Whip, fuck that noise"
>reset

And that's how you learn.

Start keeping a log of what you've learned, too, moonpleb.
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 No.1387

>>1345
Me too, Persian is a fucking killing machine.

Slash and I gave him whatever Thunder moves I could. By level 40-50ish the rest of the game is auto pilot with him as your starter.
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 No.1388

>>1387
I'll add I also have a soft spot for Tentacruel for almost the same reasons.
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 No.1390

How does /VR/ feel about GLARE/WRAP ARBOK, and THUNDERWAVE/WRAP DRAGONITE in GEN 1?

Personally, I liked that combo!
No brakes on the WRAP TRAIN!
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 No.2231

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I liked how in gen 1 if you KOed an enemy Pokemon with Hyper Beam you receive no recharge turn penalty. But that's just the type of battler I was back then.

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 No.2239

I like how playing Gen 1 will make you surprised at moments

>Normal-type Bite and Karate Punch

>Electric only Magnemite (who can become Electric/Fire in Stadium 2)

>all those glitches, especially the Mew one

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 No.2253

>>1390

My Rhydon would like a word with you.

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 No.2261

>>2253

>My RHYDON would like a word with you!

Fixed it for you ANON!

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 No.2280

I made a team in emulated Red/Blue (I transferred the save between them once) to play on Stadium. Managed to beat Mewtwo, still haven't beaten R2 yet. I had an Alakazam with the elemental punches and Psychic because I'm insane, a Lapras, a Jolteon, a Snorlax, a Rhydon, and I forget what the last member was.

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 No.2285

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>>1323

Pretty well said. It's amazing how alive it still is and I feel warm and happy inside I was around for the start. I was as old as kids playing their first pokemon game today. In a much different time on much older tech, but the spirit of it is still there. I still think gen 1 and 2 are better as well as the old style they're all drawn in. Can't say much about the new games. Last I played was soul silver and 3 gym leaders in Black 2 before calling quits on it.

>>1345

This nigga here.

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 No.2291

I loved how grass/poison/psychic pokemon were actually viable

I managed to beat elite 4 with an almost all grass team that was a couple of levels under the elite 4 pokemon to boot. It was a really epic end battle too, with both my Venusaur and Garrys Charizard out of moves, both were last pokemon on our teams. They kept using struggle against each other until my Venusaur came up on top due to him being an HP sponge.

But then they introduced a quagmire of shitty grass types while making the good ones hard to get. Even then they're nerfed to hell and back. I tried rebuilding the team in Fire Red and got my ass handed to me.

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 No.2294

>>2291

Let me guess

Venusaur

Exeggutor

Parasect (SPORE SPAM)

Vileplume (I am guessing you got Red.)

Tangela

an HM Slave?

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 No.2297

>>2291

>with both my Venusaur and Garrys Charizard out of moves

>in gen 1

>opponent out of moves

Suuuuuuuuure.

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 No.2614

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>>1317

just started this. what's the difference between red and blue? what pokémon is best pokémon? (leaning towards pic related, because he is a-dorablé.)

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 No.2615

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>>2614

There are a handful of pogeymans that you can only get in Red or Blue.

There's no "best" starter, but you will stomp the first couple of bosses if you choose that fucker.

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 No.2616

>>2615

yeah, i remember that. guess i gotta get link cable if i wanna catch 'em all? are there any unique ones in yellow?

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 No.2617

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>>2616

Pikachu's your only option for the starter and I'm pretty sure you can't make the little yellow bugger evolve.

There are a few Pokemon that you can't catch in Yellow, but I'm not sure which ones. Half of Red's, half of Blue's, I'd imagine.

>link cable

Genuinely brought a smile to my face knowing that you're playing it on the original hardware.

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 No.2649

>>2617

Yellow's unavailable PKMN list of what I can think of:

>WEEDLE

>KAKUNA

>BEEDRILL

>EKANS

>ARBOK

>RAICHU

>MEOWTH

>PERSIAN

>KOFFING

>WEEZING

>JYNX

>ELECTABUZZ

>MAGMAR

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 No.2650

>>1317

pokemon red was my first PKMN game,i remember the theme and the excitement of battle that feeling of crushing brock with Squirtle that feel of fightiing Misty with my pikachu who then got one hit killed by misty;s Starmie before he could launch and attack.

AAh makes me want to play pokemon firered and relive the memories

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 No.2655

What is the reason for Nintendo not putting these two gems on the VC?

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 No.2657

>>2614

I liked charmander, while he didn't do so well vs the first 2 gyms, he fucked over the 4th gym and ended up being the fastest out of all the starters, coupled with the fact that you got slash, you crit for days.

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 No.2670

>>2655

Pokemon games are so popular, so similar, and so nostalgia-powered that they would end up competing with themselves. They just want you to put 40 bucks down for their newest game, instead of paying 5 bucks to play one of the older titles.

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 No.2698

>>2655

It's possibly due to the GB/GBC VC games having no Wireless (3DS to 3DS) in place of Link Cable.

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 No.2700

>>2655

I have a feeling it either may be too dated for some, or they want you to buy the newest game for $40 instead of just $5 or 6

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 No.2807

Does anyone still have their link cable? Sadly and heart breaking news for me, was my worm light and my link cable went missing 12+ years ago. Never seen again. I still have a working copy of Yellow an a copy of Red and Gold that won't save

My Blue was stolen in 1999 and silver went missing around 04. Ruby ( a bit new to talk about here?) want missing too. I feel like a lot of my childhood shit went missing. It's a bit disheartening really. At least I still have Dreamland…

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 No.2809

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>>2807

That's shit luck, anon.

But you raised a point I've been wondering for a while: who actually had a link cable pre-Pogeymans?

Very few of the kids I hung out with had GBs, but none that did actually had the ability to play two player games.

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 No.2810

>>2807

>My Blue was stolen in 1999

Motherfucker I KNOW those feels…blue was my shit, I had a blastoise just like on the cartridge, he was the coolest. I think he was almost level 80 and I was still going for level 100…and some little russian fucker stole it right out of my backpack. I knew it was him because of how he reacted when I confronted him about it, but I couldn't prove anything. He left school shortly after and I never got it back. I was so damned heartbroken. I played yellow and loved it, but it wasn't the same.

>Dreamland

…but do you have Dreamland 2?

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 No.2811

>>2807

>tfw lived in a neighborhood where a link cable was an impossible dream similar to running water in 1940's Cambodia

We had the games but our parents cut corners everywhere else. We wouldn't even think to ask for one. There was often tale of a link cable spotted at that one kid's house that nobody really knew.

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 No.2815

>>2809

>>2811

I knew a few kids that also had link cables. I remember us all in the jungle gym watch people play or playing our own games, back before people mid-maxed and EV trained pokemon and it was about what pokemon you liked. No meta game shit. Just fun

>>2811

I assume you live in eastern Europe or the bible belt in the states?

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 No.2817

>>2815

>I assume you live in eastern Europe

Worse, New Jersey.

>back before people mid-maxed and EV trained pokemon and it was about what pokemon you liked. No meta game shit. Just fun

This. Only one thing mattered - fun. I used to spend hours on my Gyarados and Poliwrath, I had no idea if Vaporeon gave you better bang for your buck or whatever, I had no concept of that. It's a strange statement, but I really miss the idea of "fun" in gaming.

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 No.2819

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>>2817

>New Jersey.

What part? I'm two rivers and one city away in Long Island

Oddly even when people I knew would mid/max and EV train. I never did. I would grind levels like any RPG, but I made my team pokemon I liked. Last pokemon game I played was Soul Silver. And that was when it came out. I booted up my copy and found my team.

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 No.2821

>>2819

Paterson. In case you're not familiar, it was one of those situations where I was one of about six white kids in my high school (that's not an exaggeration,) and probably about one out of thirty native English speakers.

I used to go to my cousin's house in Cranford and he had Sega TV, Sega Internet, Sega wireless controllers and I used to think "what is this wizardry?"

Nice find, other than Blue and Red I never sunk too much time into the others, though I would always come back to Blue and Red every few years, especially if I noticed my brother was playing. I never did get anybody to 100, I'd always get to like 96 and then be like "I'll max it out soon," and then put it down and then focus on another game. If I had the link cable I would've been more motivated to hit 100.

I'm same as you, I'd grind who I liked. Charizard, Beedrill, Nidoqueen, Tentacruel, Persian, Chansey, Kangaskhan, Gyarados, Poliwrath, Blastoise, Ninetales, Jolteon, Paras, Scyther, Arcanine…those were pretty much the ones I put the most time into throughout various saves.

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 No.2834

>>2821

Ruby was the last one I played before I didn't care anymore. I was given Pearl and only beat 1 gym before I stopped and 3 badges in Black 2 before I didn't care. I only played Soul Silver for memories. The game even added a thing that played the old GB music, so I put that on ASAP. A lot of people I know still play the games. As long as they're having fun. I just don't care. I'm the guy that likes gen 1-2 and some of 3.

I only (hardly) know the area around Morristown

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 No.4073

>>2807

>My Blue was stolen in 1999

>>2810

>blue was my shit, I had a blastoise just like on the cartridge, he was the coolest

So this is what it feels like when doves cry.

I was the only kid in my school to get the Diploma. Goddamn Tauros took forever. Got my Lv100 Blastoise, my first starter ever. Then some piece of shit from school stole it. Then my parents made me move before I got a chance to take it the fuck back.

Blastoise is best starter.

And speaking of nobody having a Link Cable, did anyone actually have a Game Boy Printer? I got a Link Cable for Pokemon, I got great use out of it until Gen III came out and decided it didn't want to be compatible with anything anymore, but I never saw a Game Boy Printer in real life. The sheer disappointment of going to see the guy at Game Freak HQ after getting all 151 like he said, only to find out the reward was some shit on the Game Boy Printer. Never before had I felt such a supreme sense of disappointment. But it was a good lesson, because I would feel that level of disappointment many times after. Like when I played Gen III, for example. Fuckers took out more features than they added. Gen IV is awesome though.

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 No.7084

>>4073

Similar I had original Red and played the fuck out of it. Beat it, had all 151, and some nigger stole my cartridge.

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