No.34003
Evil it is predictable. Take for instance the case of their always being someone on the dark side and always on the light side, how many is a question more of balance probably, but it's part of the life FORCE energy in everything in the universe. We know that when you burn something it constantly puts out energy, we know that heat is just a variation of friction, so the equation is more like friction = temperature x mass = energy or something like that. Well humans for instance they are constantly in motion (the brains even when sleeping which we know expend and release energy in the form of brain WAVES [not particles]) and expending…. EXPEND (meaning it is being expressed and putting forth energy that is effecting the air around it) itself all the time. With 7-9 billion of them that is a lot of energy being put into the air all the time. What's more is the brain waves, they are always being put out their and bombarding the atmosphere constantly at war with each other in a way, bumping into each other …. thinking now of an ocean which is nothing but waves, they have currents (currency heh) they have places where the routes of that energy are aligned, concurrent in thought, their collective agreements on opinions and actions to take in situations its… current (culture) a current.
Joseph Drolet Sorry I lost myself anyways there is a science that can prove there is an energy in our atmosphere which can not be seen by our naked eyes, and that it is everywhere in an unconscious state waiting to be used, and my guess is that like almost everyone, and everything they like being used, so the one who puts them to work at what they like to do best is the one they find themselves pulled to, attracted to, voting for lol. Well especially if they tell them please and thank you from time to time cause another thing everyone agrees on, they hate thankless jobs.
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No.34008
>>34003
You mean irl? Well maybe I guess, but the real question is if living beings and all things do generate a Force of some kind, its not really relevant since we have no means of controlling it, detecting it or using it for the same methods as jedi and sith as far as we know. It'd be just sort of there.
But lets say that without a shadow of a doubt there is a Force-like energy being emitted that we haven't detected yet or fully grasp. We know there are no things like midichlorians, but would midis really be the only "natural" way to control something like that if it was a thing like in SW? Would sheer will power be enough if we just got a mental grasp of how it worked and how living things produce it? And if so, could I use it to fondle tits from far away?
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No.34056
>>34003
>all that desperate trekkie-tier technobabble trying to naturalize the per def supernatural
You can't prove metaphysics via natural science, because metaphysics is in the premise of all reasoning.
And neither can you prove mind over matter, because the mind does not exist on the observable level.
>but muh brain waves
It's just how the body looks like from the outside, with no more consciousness or intent involved than, say, cosmic radiation.
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No.34201
Awakening comes in many layers.
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No.34218
>>34003
The Force is real but it must be destroyed.
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No.34219
>>34218
No. It must be controlled and used for our own desires. To eliminate the Force is to eliminate Life and Power. The Darkness is ultimate power and control.
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No.34224
>>34201
>Awakening comes in many layers.
The force is ogre?
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No.34227
Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to Suffering.
What is also suffering? Passion. The origin of the word is that. To suffer.
Now change that in the Sith Code and things get a whole new understanding. The Force is One, beyond the Light and Dark.
Fear leads to Anger.
Anger leads to Hate.
Hate leads to Suffering.
Peace is a lie, there is only Suffering.
Through Suffering, I gain Strength.
Through Strength, I gain Power.
Through Power, I gain Victory.
Through Victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
This makes me see things in a whole new level.
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No.34270
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No.34277
Perhaps. If we can all focus furiously hard, over a long period, and cause KK to be removed from the franchise, along with Rian Jackass, and all their SJW Koopas, we just might prove the Force DOES exist, bois.
I think it's worth a try.
>>34003
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No.34324
>>34277
Implying these 2 jews & the rest of the disney corporation are not to blame.
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No.34341
>>34324
they absolutely are to blame, but the ones anon pointed out are managing the company and content. bob is just concerned about profits and jj is concerned about interracial romance.
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No.34342
There is no "Force" and if there were, it would be something that could be measured. Many force sensitive people in universe have demonstrated talents to see and work it individually and personally but also build machines and tools for its observation and manipulation.
>>34056
>You can't prove metaphysics via natural science,
Of course
>because metaphysics is in the premise of all reasoning.
Of course not. "Metaphysics" are a spook and that is why you can't prove them with anything resembling rationality, empiricism or logic
>And neither can you prove mind over matter, because the mind does not exist on the observable level.
Au contraire. The mind is the only thing that can be truly proven to exist, everything else just very probably exists. You should know that since you seem so infatuated with those kinds of memes. The mind is an emergent function of biology, the biology can be studied and through its rigorous study and cataloguing one might easily map the "mind" which lies within (or throughout, if you prefer).
<muh muh
Stop it.
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No.34344
>>34342
How do you define what is and is not rigorous? Why is biology valid and metaphysics not? The answers to those questions are not empirical. By the very act of asking them you demonstrate that a priori reasoning, of which metaphysics is a part, are prerequisite to any kind of physical evidence. Because a priori reasoning is a prerequisite to any observational conclusions, one must conclude that said conclusions are subordinate to a priori. Natural sciences are therefore subordinate to metaphysics, because without metaphysical propositions the natural sciences are meaningless. This is why science was once upon a time called "natural philosophy."
>rationality, empiricism or logic
Empiricism is fundamentally different from those other things you mentioned. The fact that you don't see this proves your ignorance. Empiricists get the axe.
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No.34385
I am thoroughly convinced that Lucas' bullshit about the little lifeforms controlling the Force in his planned sequel trilogy, was directly lifted from the Mushishi anime.
Give it a look, it's about a jedi traveling backwater planets in the ancient past when people had a natural understanding of the Force. Dealing with conflict between humans, nature and the dark side.
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No.34386
>>34342
The best way to disprove metaphysics, is to make any research of the supernatural taboo, ruining the livelyhoods and reputations of anyone too curious about them. That will show them how rational and logical we are.
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No.34618
>>34342
>"Metaphysics" are a spook
Cerebral palsy, I presume?
>The mind is an emergent function of biology
No "mind" of any kind, exists in or emerges from biology in any quantifiable manner.
And there is a simple reason for that: any mind other than one's own is a projection, extrapolated from the same processes that identify certain shapes as one's own body.
Back on topic, the midi-chlorian explanation does not make any sense, either, for the same reason. It is a ham-fisted materialist narrative on mind over matter.
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