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File: 2813bb3955b4381⋯.jpg (501.75 KB,1111x1449,1111:1449,stylo-ren-snoke-finalsm.jpg)

 No.23940

What was his backstory? Why was in the movies? What purpose did he serve?

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 No.23944

>>23940

Real question: why wasn't he black?

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 No.23946

File: 43bb4b352d33671⋯.png (522.07 KB,768x576,4:3,the mystery box.png)

>>23940

He had none. He was just another asspull from JJ's mystery box to serve as the Emperor stand in. He didn't even start coming up with ideas on who this fucker was supposed to be until after TFA was over and done with. JJ has no ability to plan ahead or create a believable past or setting. Everything is a spur of the moment thing with him built up upon aimless mysteries.

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 No.23953

>>23940

>What purpose did he serve?

they needed a mysterious, powerful villain to lurk in the shadows, so they inserted Snoke. he exists to prop up a derivative, hollow cash-in.

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 No.23954

>What was his backstory? Why was in the movies? What purpose did he serve?

Because cuck rian johnson and jay jay blowjobs couldnt figure out a better villain than emperor 0.1

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 No.23961

Money, but he served his purpose poorly.

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 No.23979

i think the worst part about snoke is they had serious potential. a highly powerful dark force user that managed to remain hidden from the galaxy during the events of the republic and empire, and had emerged from hiding to disturb the peace once more. dude could have been retconned to be like vitiate or some shit and it would have been better than what we got in the last jedi. all they literally had to do was insert a quick dialogue scene and that would have done it, but nope instead we get emperor motif (implications of palpatine?) and then death.

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 No.23993

>>23979

Eh, Snoke was just lame all around. A hidden Palpatine-type made no sense and his TFA incarnation was just generic growling villain. He was never all that compelling. Making him a gold Trump expy was just pathetic.

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 No.23995

>>23979

>>23993

I don't like the idea of significant imbalances in the force after Return of the Jedi. I liked the Jedi Knight games because any dark siders were actually equal with light siders, so it was never out of balance. Disney's movies completely ignore everything that happened in Return of the Jedi, you could actually skip Return, going straight from Empire to The Farce Awakens, and it would make no difference since the Empire is back, the dark side is back, and nothing has changed since the original trilogy.

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 No.24005

>>23995

>I don't like the idea of significant imbalances in the force after Return of the Jedi.

It is lazy. A creative person should say, 'okay, I can't do the Dark Lord Emperor thing because it was already done and RotJ established it can't be done as well.' But JJ didn't care and wanted a new hope clone with 100x BIGGER things, literally in the case of the sun destroying planet vs the death star. So Snoke is 100ft tall in the movie. It's a hologram but the meaning is plain: this emperor's even BIGGER.

Rian just ran with this and said, 'okay, now I'm SUBVERTING it. Snoke is just a goofball.' which, like everything else Rian did, just made it worse.

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 No.24021

File: eee60a30850a6de⋯.jpg (222.96 KB,500x667,500:667,CRONAL.jpg)

File: eb74144ad94cea4⋯.jpg (18.56 KB,355x401,355:401,OdomManifesto_Nordtile.jpg)

File: fe2bb973b69c589⋯.jpg (141.31 KB,713x855,713:855,REACTION_PLEADIANMUSICSTOP….jpg)

>>23940

>Cronal 'Perek'/Blackhole.

>Emperor's Hand/Church of the Dark

>'Sorcerors of Rhand'

>Fucking around with exotic weapons & shit in the unknown regions

>^Big-BIG bad after Thrawn/Imperial remnant (Tarkin's mistress pulls a Red Wedding which makes it possible later.)

>Indiana Jones & 4th Reich Occult Nazis chasing artifacts/ancient tech

>Tees up the Abeloth/Galactic Yuzhan Vong xenos invasion

The dark side knowledge is necessary to prevent YV sucess (Kylo/Caedus), and for the Jedi legacy to move toward grey/balance; Abeloth/metaphysical aspect for an endgame subplot– speaking of which, I can't think of a lore-satisfactory martyring for Luke other than having left to deal with the Lovecraft Biggest Bad(s) like Abeloth, and/or throwing himself in the breech to prevent such an entity from manifesting ~goes into blue ghostmode voice-to-skull intelligence agency role after.

They half-baked what source material they did have with a 'safe' director from fucking Stark Trek and this shitshow's the predictable result. From the occult symbolism of hermit Luke drinking green (like his saber) Mer-Camel cum, I'd be willing to bet this has been a controlled demolition of a cultural touchstone– they clearly don't care much for bottom line $$$ or quality.

>>23940

>Real question: why wasn't he black?

Cronal's game was force/holo-projections & induced hallucination up the wazoo, so he could very well be swarthy. inb4 Idris Elba-is-Snoke

>>23979

>serious potential. a highly powerful dark force user that managed to remain hidden from the galaxy

The meme propagation of Jar Jar Plagueis owed something to this – that aborted, unresolved trajectory from Lucas still lurking there in the background, Snoke's profile took up that torch again.

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 No.24022

>>24021

>From the occult symbolism of hermit Luke drinking green (like his saber) Mer-Camel cum

Could you elaborate on this?

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 No.24047

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 No.24269

>>23940

>What was his motivation?

GOLD MAN BAD.

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 No.24271

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>>23946

> jj has no ability to plan ahead or create a believable past or setting.

Which is why his kind has been expelled from most countries several times throughout history,it is their nature.

>>23993

>Trump

Looks more like gold-member from Austin Powers. In any case I think based on what their ideology mentally illness seems to be Snoke was supposed to be the personification of whites more specifically white men ie a racist "old white guy". Basically the biggest evil that hollywood can come up with is your stubborn grandfather in his bath robe and slippers.

>>24021

> controlled demolition of a cultural touchstone.

I think so as well.

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 No.27278

>>23940

His purpose was to die.

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 No.27279

>>23993

>A hidden Palpatine-type made no sense

A dark force mystic (who was secretly either Vitiate or Plagueis) would have made perfect sense. The unknown regions are fucking massive. Hell, even an extra galactic origin would have been far more satisfying than what we got.

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 No.27280

>>24022

>>24047

Will he ever elab?

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 No.27289

>>27279

>A dark force mystic (who was secretly either Vitiate or Plagueis) would have made perfect sense. The unknown regions are fucking massive. Hell, even an extra galactic origin would have been far more satisfying than what we got.

But to what end? Lucas said Palpatine was the best. Either your new dark side mystic is Super-Palpatine (which is retarded) or half-Palpatine (which is completely uncompelling).

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 No.27316

>>23940

He was a gay faggot who identified as a retard and no rian johnson could not write him any better than that.

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 No.27328

>>27289

The tragedy of darth plagueis the wise would then act as foreshadowing.

>Super-Palpatine

Fair point. I was spitballing.

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 No.27363

>>23940

To be an evil rich straight white male for the stronk wymin who don't need no man MC to defeat. But Cuck Johnson and JewJew wren't on the same retarded page so pants were shit.

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