No.17851
Is there any point in liking Star Wars anymore? Call me a cynical shitlord, but I'm growing more and more disillusioned every day. We all know everything now is run by Disney and we know how bad that is, but even looking backward to the Expanded Universe I'm starting to see many of the "old guard" nowadays propagating pro-Disney support, shilling for Disney on social media, and pushing the same leftist oral diarrhea on the fans and the franchise, and lemme say it, I don't care what someone's politics are, but when they're shoved in my face? Nah man.
I just don't feel any enjoyment anymore. The future of Star Wars is a void, and looking back a lot of what used to be good isn't good now. Is there any good reason to not just give up and stop caring?
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No.17854
I don't think I'll ever be a hardcore fan again. Star Wars is just something I'll think of when I get the urge to play an old EU video game or see a scan from a good comic. It'll just be something for which I feel the occasional nice vibe of nostalgia like when somebody edits a Spongebob or Simpson's clip into a joke. I used to get some of that old feeling by regularly posting and lurking here but it's just not doing the trick anymore.
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No.17856
>>17851
There's kinda no point in liking anything by that logic honestly since its just not Star Wars. Everything's gonna fall eventually. Even Lord of the Rings is next. http://archive.is/FYHyp
Same is true for video games. Everything is going to shit. Best thing we can do for now is just look to the past, enjoy the fan content/mods/etc for the old stuff because otherwise we'll have nothing left to enjoy. Thinking this bullshit is only happening to SW is shortsighted. Everything is going to shit, but we shouldn't abandon the old stuff just because a bunch of obnoxious twats are going out of their way to rape the future of the things we held dear. At the very least let us not discard the past. Let's just hope the media trainwreck that's tainting everything crashes horribly soon or someday…
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No.17858
>>17854
>>17856
Speaking of Lord of the Rings, just remember what Tolkien taught us, anons
Dragons may be horrifying, they may be overwhelming, and they may seem to win, but they will eventually be beaten, and the dawn will be brighter than before.
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No.17859
>>17858
>remember what Tolkien taught us
Thanks for reminding me of some happy memories.
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No.17860
>>17858
He also taught us that the dark powers can't create, they can only destroy or twist good things into a perverted reflection of themselves.
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No.17866
>>17851
Oh hello, Nihilist-Kun or should I say Nihilus-Kun now?. How did you find your way over from /tg/?
The EU only dies if you let it die. I've still got my novels, Steam still has the old games, and places like this still exist. The communities may be smaller, and there might not be new novels, but the collection we were left is vast and rich. All good things come to an end sooner or later; if it wasn't Disney it would have been something else. And Star Wars at least had a longer run than most before going to shit; it could have been like Dune and gotten weird after book 3.
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No.17876
>>17858
Tolkien was off base there because dragons can be good and noble, which SJWs aren't capable of. Also, unlike SJWs, dragons have faced actual prejudice in many settings where they appear, whereas SJWs are invariably from the richest families and have never had to endure any sort of struggle in their entire lives.
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No.17887
>>17876
True but that's just for dragons within the Middle Earth setting, as most were pompous assholes and the offspring of Morgoth no less, unlike dragons in under settings and legend.
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No.17889
>>17856
>Lord of the Rings is next. http://archive.is/FYHyp
>Jennifer Salke
Looked it up and yes, of course she is.
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No.17892
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No.17895
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No.17899
>>17858
>Muh just world
Tolkien was a tard.
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No.17903
>>17899
>Tolkien was a tard.
…For crafting a fantastic world, that is to say one meant to be different from our own? If you have a personal grudge against happy-go-lucky, everything is happy and perfect settings that's all well and good, but you can't even describe Middle Earth as that. The ending was happy, albeit with bittersweet undertones, but the protagonists weren't handed victory, they had to fight tooth and nail and risk just about everything in order to defeat their adversary. And, to reiterate, that came at great cost, and didn't stop some 'unjust' things from happening–the Elves having to return to Valinor, because the Three Rings no longer preserved their civilization, the general withdrawal of magic from the world, and other things I'm sure I'm forgetting. Middle-Earth is, at best, not a noblebright world but a nobledark one: It's not by default a "just" or happy place, but through great strength and effort a few heroic men can change it for the better.
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No.17904
>>17903
Da fuq happened with my image?
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No.17905
>>17866
>it could have been like Dune and gotten weird after book 3.
I kinda disagree, while Dune went off in strange directions, I don't think the later books are bad or even inferior. it was supposed to be 7 books, with a Maud'Dib trilogy, a chapterhouse/whatever the fuck trilogy, and God Emperor as the centerpiece. GEoD is where Frank Herbert fleshes out his larger ideas, and it's quite good if you look at it that way. the later trilogy is strange, but it's also an unfinished product – we don't know how it was going to be resolved, and the hackjobs refuse to release the Dune 7 notes. speaking of which, Dune got ruined when Brian & Kevin got their grubby hands on it. nuDune really is analogous to nuWars. it's strangely fitting that both franchises met the same fate, given the obvious influence of Dune on SW.
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No.17907
Star Wars has to fall before it can rise up again. Like what happened to Batman after Batman and Robin. Even that might not help and it will end up where Star Trek is now - with shrinking and aging fanbase, and living off of old merchandise.
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No.17908
>>17905
I wanted to like GEoD, I really did. Leto II and his grand plan were very appealing to me. It's been a little while so I'm a little hazy on what exactly turned me off of it (got partway through and stopped)–if I recall, I think it was that, while I thought he was "right," Leto as he was written didn't try very hard to defend his point of view. I also read that from Book 5 onward spice could be synthesized, which irked me because spice being hard-limited to Arrakis and only Arrakis was a central point to the first half of the series. Oh yeah, and it triggered my autism just a little bit that Leto's plan to make humanity less dependent on shield warfare was to enact a High Capacity Fully Semi-Automatic Assault Shield Ban and call it a day. Maybe I'll give the rest of the series another shot.
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No.17917
>>17908
GEoD is subtle. it's all about the Golden Path aka the survival of humanity, and Leto II doing what's necessary to ensure this. later in the book, Siona gets a vision of what would happen had Leto II not taken the reins, and it wasn't pleasant. aside from keeping us alive, Leto II wants to set a bad example by taking despotism to the extreme, in order to build up social forces to push us to the opposite extreme aka The Scattering. That + his breeding of prescience-cloaking genes, and the development of prescience-cloaking technology, would ensure that the human race could never be consolidated under one rule again. like I said, this can be kinda confusing unless you read all the way through and analyze it. the book as a whole is very philosophical, unlike the space opera feel of the first.
as for the second, incomplete trilogy, it takes place thousands of years later. yes, spice as a scarce and vital resource was very significant to the first trilogy, but it's also understandable that game-changers would come along over millennia of time, especially when it became apparent to all factions that they could be conquered by anyone who monopolized the Spice.
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No.17925
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No.17931
>>17925
Would you happen to know the song from the end of this variant of your webm?
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No.17933
>>17851
Star Wars as an Idea is still GREAT. Lucasfilm is garbage, however.
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No.17938
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No.17939
>Snoke
>more powerful than Vader and Palpatine
>mfw just sat through 5 pages of idiots making theories about Snoke from before TLJ's release only to have all their theories btfo, followed by them leaving the forums or staying around to damage control for the film
The state of nu-fans. Thank goodness Rian was such a hack otherwise there'd be too many idiots defending Disney for us to handle.
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No.17940
>>17938
>Wealthy, with a tasteful antique collection
>Grabs only the finest maidens of royal blood
>More /fit/ than the plebs below your mountaintop castle
>Intelligent, can wield magic easily
>Can fly
>Can do BBQ better than all your neighbors
Who wouldn't want to be a dragon, they're the chadliest motherfuckers ever conceived.
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No.17941
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>17940
Aren't there dragons in the Expanded Universe that live in space?
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No.17942
>>17941
Duinuogwuin (Star Dragons) were dragon-like and have most of the common traits of stereotypical dragons (although they're more similar to dragons in Elder Scrolls in terms of how they live and physically they look unique overall) and its said that the more familiar dragon-esque species in the galaxy were possibly descended from them, like Krayt Dragons (Tatooine), Condor Dragons (Endor), Arkanian Dragon (Arkania), etc since they were capable of surviving in the vacuum, much like Givin and the Exogorth from ESB.
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No.17943
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No.17944
>>17941
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon
Yes although they don't look as sexy.
Good music choice.
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No.17946
>>17943
No particular reason, just seemed relevant when dragon-anon brought it up.
>>17942
>>17944
Nice to know my memory wasn't failing me on that. They seems a bit underutilized when it comes to the early parts of the timeline. I wonder how they fared against the Contispex republic?
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No.17947
>>17944
Damn you. That's an article on dragon species in the galaxy in general.
>they don't look as sexy.
Damn it. I knew this whole damn subject was gonna lead to dragon waifu faggotry. But for the sake of the Star Dragons' honor, here's one in a slave costume.
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No.17948
>>17947
>I knew this whole damn subject was gonna lead to dragon waifu faggotry.
Well, we've got an entire droid waifu thread, so it was only a matter of time until the Star Dragons became the subject of lust.
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No.17952
>>17940
>Hoard useless crap continually long after it loses market value or status as legal tender
>Degenerate sexual fetish for creatures outside their species
>Spend all day cooped up in a lair growing corpulent and sleeping for decades
>Prone to being undermined by plucky hobos scaling to a tick
>Speak dead languages nobody cares about
>Memorize whole books of esoteric lore with no practical use.
>Interactions with own kind driven by covetousness and vanity
Dragons gigantic shut-in nerds.
>>17944
>>17947
Day of the Lance soon.
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No.17953
>>17952
>get kicked out of the Jedi order for being too edgy
>be such a problem the jedi genocide an entire species
>still keep trying to conquer the galaxy after being defeated every time
No wonder you Sith emos get called insane. How's that galactic domination scheme working out for you?
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No.17954
>>17952
>Day of the Lance soon.
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No.17955
>>17851
>Is there any point in liking Star Wars anymore?
Meh, I still like the OT. I noped out of the movies after seeing TPM, but didn't dislike SW in anyway. The nuTrilogy is absolute trash and makes the world a worse place just by existing. So no, going forward there isn't any hope for SW and you should probably just stop giving a shit.
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No.17961
>>17856
Pretty much this. We are at the point where faggy fan fiction shoots the mouse's cannon out of the water. Over time we are going to see some great independent content come out.
I'm a big /tg/ guy and the table top SW games are great. FFG is a little gimicky with their card and miniature wargames but the table top rpg is gold. And I'm serious on that. It is pretty much EU and Legacy content written by authentic SW enthusiasts. It is the safe harbor for the franchise right now.
Just remember that as everything falls to shit, the dice will keep rolling.
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No.17962
>>17938
All I did was point out that SJWs would lose the oppression olympics to dragons, not to mention most of the groups they say are the oppressors, but >>17940 is right though. Dragons fucking rule. They're too tightly tied to Earth mythology for me to support them being used very often in Star Wars, but it's a moot point now because Disney is never going to do anything good with the license anyway.
>>17952
But pro-dragon forces also commonly use the lance. The Day of the Lance could just as easily be about dragon waifufags stabbing anyone opposed to their fetish, so if both sides are using lances that would make it the Day of No One Can Figure Out Who the Fuck is Trying to Kill Who.
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No.17968
>>17961
Running homebrewed campaigns and danger rooms has been my strongest connection to Star Wars lately. With the nu-wars bag of shit my simple criminal adventures has been the best Star Wars I've seen in a few years. Just the other day I sent my two players to assassinate a hutt crime lord while he was cavorting with his secret harem(do you need more than 2 girls for it to count as a harem?).
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No.17975
>>17961
Been planning on running a force and destiny post-endor campaign (using old EU's version of events of course).
A way of using my disappointment with the ST in a positive way.
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No.17989
ever since they announced the killing of lucasarts, the firing of george and the canon wipe, i knew i was in for a rough ride. i didn't think it would go this badly though. rogue one is legitimately the only film of the new bunch i enjoy, and it still has its plethora of issues. but no, i'm not excited whatsoever for any new sw content and instead have taken to older stuff, like now i'm currently watching star trek tos and loving it.
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No.17990
>>17989
Same. Except instead of Star Trek, after the recent Thundercats "reboot", I decided to rewatch the old Thundercats cartoon and its aged really well in terms of world building and characters. I honestly never recall seeing that "Tygra gets high" episode when I was a kid, so I'm getting quite a lot of nice surprises. I'm honestly surprised such an upbeat company like Rankin Bass could come up with such crazy yet in-depth lore for a setting. Then again, I re-watched Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas in July a couple of months back and that shit has some really in-depth world building that even tries to tie together most of the previous RB Christmas specials.
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No.18028
>>17990
>I'm honestly surprised such an upbeat company like Rankin Bass could come up with such crazy yet in-depth lore for a setting.
gotta remember, it was all fresh back then and they literally had no limits. what's ironic about nu-trek is they also literally have no limits and yet have made the exact same movie three times
>villain from other time period
>kirk thinks about muh father
>spock contemplates life
>everyone else is just there
>old spock somehow worked into the plot
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No.18037
>>17953
The Dark is patient and it always wins. With every defeat the Sith have irrevocably altered the course of Galactic history and despite trying to destroy us, we only return in a more powerful form. The Dark is timeless and infinite. In the end, it always wins.
>How's that galactic domination scheme working out for you?
How's it working out for you having muuns control your banks, Biths control your media, Jedi policing your "republic", wookies and trannydoshans chimping out in your streets, your children dying in battles with the Diversity Alliance, Sand people raiding your colonies, and your own people being prisoners on their own planets, cuck?
>>17961
Is any new tabletop content still being made?
>>17990
The first Thundercats reboot was rather good. A shame they couldn't get it continued.
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No.18045
>>18037
>The first Thundercats reboot was rather good. A shame they couldn't get it continued.
On the surface it was but the writers had too much of a hateboner for Lion-O and the went to far in the direction of giving the show less of a black and white morality that they made the Cats non heroic.
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No.18053
>>18037
>Is any new tabletop content still being made?
No, but if there was any new stuff it would be nu-wars, so it's really for the best. Star Wars Saga Edition has splatbooks for just about every era of the EU though, so we have plenty to work with.
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No.18059
>>18037
How's it feel to be outdone by Taung-aboos and a cult that didn't even have force powers? Those Pius Dea guys had galactic domination for a millenia more than you have. Face it, the Republic was already destined to become the Empire- with or without your involvement.
>How's it working out for you having muuns control your banks, Biths control your media, Jedi policing your "republic", wookies and trannydoshans chimping out in your streets, your children dying in battles with the Diversity Alliance, Sand people raiding your colonies, and your own people being prisoners on their own planets, cuck?
The outer rim and the unknown regions are unironically the best place to be. Get a giant orbital defense cannon, and the pirates won't bother with such a hard target, especially if you side with the Hutts or other rim powers. Besides, some of them are already showing an interest in the core worlds and Republic space, even some from the far outside.
that thundercats reboot was great
>>18053
Doesn't the FFG game have DU content though?
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No.18060
>>18037
Yes there is. Ignore >>18053
FFG is doing the star wars lines. Cannot vet for the other than shit FFG puts out but the RPG is dope. Look for 'edge of the empire', 'age of rebellion', and 'force and destiny'. There has been supplement books put out every quarter to support the game.
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No.18062
>>18060
Huh, the more you know. I knew about the FFG games but I didn't know splatbooks were still being released.
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No.18066
>>18062
Looking at the upcoming releases, there are two new books on the way with many reprints at various stages of shipping.
I think the splats are comming to an end (by that I mean the specific class espensions) but ffg is going to pump out more setting and adventure books. They are not going to fuck up a golden goose. This is not Disney we are talking about.
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