/strek/ - Star Trek

>oh shit, Netflix hates us after we made them fund a steaming pile of garbage that made no money

>better start making in-roads with Amazon before they realize this is garbage

>>31396

Well according to Midnight's Edge (I know) the current version of the show has nothing to do with what it was supposed to be about. The visuals and set designs have changed too.

It's going to be like STD, it will be shit and the best stuff will be the behind the scenes drama.

>>31397

This is what happens when everything becomes a proxy for the stock price instead of doing your job and caring about it.

>>31388

It's just going to be him gardening in a vineyard with Q isn't it?

>>31400

That would be far more enjoyable than what we'll end up getting.

>>31402

and the biggest payday of his career. Don't forget that, this is his children's inheritance money.

>>31404

If he thought Nemesis Picard was a genuinely good idea who can even fathom his thought process?

>>31405

If I remember correctly, he signed up for the spin-off series on the condition that he's not playing as TNG Picard.

>>31402

>VOY and ENT have killed Star Trek

Fuck off, they didn't. Voyager didn't do much different than TNG and has the same number of really great and really bad episodes. ENT followed the basic ST formula with low stakes in the first two seasons and a questionable story arc with the Xindi in the third season, and a great fourth season with a rushed finale because it was cancelled.

Just because they played it relatively safe doesn't mean they killed Star Trek. The lack of interest in Star Trek after ENT and the JJ Abrams reboot have killed Star Trek, not VOY or ENT, their heart was in the right place.

>>31396

>that gif

He looks like he could be Seth McFarlane's dad.

>>31419

Imagine if he appears in The Orville as such?

>>31426

That uniform is confusing me, it looks like the Voyager/early DS9 style with the coloured shoulders, but it also has a coloured collar instead of the undershirt. It's also nothing like the grey uniforms for the movie, or the ones from All Good Things and The Visitor which would be more appropriate for the time period. I guess they're just doing their own thing.

>>31433

Sisko is smoking time crack with the Prophets, and he'll probably never leave dibs he can keep reliving his Benny Russell memories forever.

>>31417

Oh come on now. TNG also got carried more often than not by Data or Picard. Crushed and Troy were completely underused/uninteresting characters. Not to mention Wesley.. I think the best VOY episodes can easily stand up to the best TNG episodes.

>>31426

My god, Stewart looks confused as fuck in that picture. If that's the best picture they can choose for a sneak peak…

>>31433

The people in charge of NuTrek have no interest to even reference DS9.

nigger fuck me

nigger nigger niggerrr

>>31437

>My god, Stewart looks confused as fuck in that picture.

What if they kindapped him and are forcing him against his will?

>>31439

Looks like a trek themed BDSM convention.

>patrick the leftist

Dead on arrival.

>>31433

DS9 was some top tier shit to watch, especially when the war starts.

>>31389

Mr Magoo

>>31393

CBS' probably gonna force NA fans to watch it via All Access because "FUCK YOU, NERDS! GIVES US THE SHEKELS!!!"

>>31388

>pay-per-view

fuck that shit lol, I'm not paying to put a telescreen in my house.

>>31401

idk, that could be pretty horrible. Smugness, politics and possibly cringey Pony references. which they theoretically could do non-cringily but won't because they suck because great and numerous are my sins

>>31402

>VOY and ENT have killed Star Trek,

Voyager fucked its shit up, Enterprise tried, took too few gambles, and was better but still wasn't the home run the franchise needed. The fucking red matter pew pew laz0rs explosions shiny lens flares apple store bridge fuck worldbuilding and fuck 40 years of lore up the ass reboot was what killed it.

>other shit

I really hope you're wrong.

>>31404

>>31405

>poured so much of himself into

He never gave af. The only reason he took the job was becasue he figured the show wouldn't last more than a couple seasons. But yeah, I don't begrudge him that either.

>>31412

>Voyager didn't do much different than TNG

Voyager got as cringey at times as TNG did in the first two and last seasons. It had almost average-TNG-tier episodes, but the characters were crap compared to TNG. It never had really good episodes like TNG did with Best of Both Worlds, The Inner Light or like a third of the other ones. Year in Hell was good and could do more with the FX budget, but Yesterday's Enterprise did more with the concept than pew pew laz0rs. The 37s had a less cringey/obviously-ported-from-a-rejected-Dr-Who-teleplay plot than Time's Arrow, but was still less entertaining somehow. The psychological horror stuff was better on TNG (2384 Chains of Command, the one of Riker in the nuthouse, the Tyken's Rift), and iirc Voyager never got into the cosmic horror stuff as well as TNG did/at all. Voyager was like John de Mandeville wrote Star Trek. and NuTrek is like de Mandeville wrote about it from second-hand sources having never watched it himself The one thing Voyager had over TBG was no Wesley episodes.

>>31447

>Dominion War

It was good and the characterization and moral exploration were high-tier, but I feel like they didn't get or impart the scale or stakes of it properly (a few hundred ships being the main fleet clashes somewhat with Guinan's figure of 40 billion dead in a war that was by comparison more protracted but much smaller in terms of the resources of the belligerants). I keep putting it in the same category as the Shadow War on B5 since it's ripped off that, which itself is good but aged crap. I'd like to see a galactic war done right, like if they ever put the Horus Heresy or something like that to film.

>>31454

There are plenty of episodes in Voyager that have horror elements. Scorpion, Night, Dark Frontier, etc. I do agree though that TNG's horror episodes where pretty subtle and psychological while VOY's were more direct.

>>31454

>It was good and the characterization and moral exploration were high-tier, but I feel like they didn't get or impart the scale or stakes of it properly

Solely budget reasons. For a TV show at that time they did a good job showing space battles at all, including CGI which was pretty new at that time. If you want Warhammer 40k battles in a sci-fi show from the 80s/90s your expectations are a bit unrealistic.

>>31437

>My god, Stewart looks confused as fuck in that picture. If that's the best picture they can choose for a sneak peak…

perhaps the show will be about Picard in the throes of irumodic syndrome ranting that the bajoran occupation didn't happen but should have while his handlers try to keep him away from space-twitter

>>31405

That idea ended up giving us Swolecard so it aint all bad

>>31402

Voyager and Enterprise did no such thing.

>>31463

Picard boasts about how great humanity has become, like unto gods, but Tasha had to live in fear of rape gangs where she grew up. The crew got drunk and nearly killed themselves from acting like retards, good thing Wesley was (And continued to be) there to outdo experts in their own fields. The planet of deepest, darkest Africa. The first holodeck episode is a really bad holodeck malfunction episode where Picard spergs out over how cool it is to people who have already been in it. Creepy pedo The Traveller. Early Ferengi acting like hyperactive goblins. Planet of strong independent women and their beta male servents. Data failing to fit in, understand objects or taking things literally all the time.

Need I go on?

>>31463

>>31454

>Voyager got as cringey at times as TNG did in the first two and last seasons.

So we're not even going to defend the last season? TNG season 7 was mostly fine except for being tapped out of ideas for episodes. They executed "Crusher fucks Irish ghost" about as well as such a thing could be done, for whatever that's worth. Seasons 1-2 usually had better ideas but crappier/cheesier execution.

I’ll torrent it like I do all the streaming shit that does not come with the $160 a month I pay DirecTV. I do not have access to fast enough internet where I live to be able to stream. (3mbps max). SD YouTube barely works.

>>31412

Well, that's kind of the problem with Voyager. It doesn't set itself apart from TNG enough to be interesting, and it also just isn't as good as TNG. Instead of a Picard you get a Janeway. In place of TNG's strong cast of characters, you have such classics as Chakotay and Harry Kim.

>>31393

Just torrent it. Works on every VPN and streaming is an outdated anti-consumer gimmick fad for braindead drooling morons with the brain of an infant.

>>31468

The Starfleet uniform seems to have gone backwards to something more like the early DS9/Voyager look, rather than the grey collared design, but it's not a huge deal, I suppose.

>>31474

It should be.

>>31470

TNG peaked at S5, S6 and S7 are just rehashes of already done plots/ideas, scraping the bottom of the barrel for new plots Sub Rosa is a perfect example of that and the writers indulging themselves in idiotic side-content like the forced Worf/Troi romance out of nowhere. Also the acting got worse as the few competent actors were clearly tired of the material.

>>31469

You forgot Yar's PSA-to-camera about why drugs are bad.

>>31403

Patrick Stewart needs more cars.

>>31440

Yep.

>>31451

"CBS' probably gonna force NA fans to watch it via All Access because "FUCK YOU, NERDS! GIVES US THE SHEKELS!!!""

All Access in the US, streaming on Crave in Canada.

>>31469

this

>>31476

>nancy reagan ep

this, also

>ship interior looked like a hotel

>characters assigned to jobs to give them something to do instead of something that made sense

>narmy SFX

>"Wesley Crusher is liek Mozart"

>Q was cringier overall

>Starfleet can't into firewalling ep

>unisex miniskirts

>poofy hair

>it makes no sense that Soong would make Data visually-identical to Lore, especially since he built Data after Lore turned evil

>>31483

Isn't Patrick Stewart a legit /o/utist?

>>31469

Now it's all coming back to me, thanks anon, S1 was just a fucking Roddenberry filled mess.

>>31486

Both Data and Lore look identical because they're supposed to look like a younger Dr. Soong (hence why he's also played by Brent Spiner). He built a 'perfect' android that could theoretically live forever and made it look himself as an ego trip. Lore didn't work out, so he tried again with Data.

>>31468

>>31439

>tunic&pants combo

>clean, bold color blocking

I honestly like what I'm seeing so far of this uniform style.

Shame the rest of the show will be a dud, like as not.

>>31491

Those zippers on the back are throwing me off. It's grossly impractical for a uniform meant to be worn every day in field conditions.

>>31494

Maybe they are highly advanced zippers. The possibilities of future clothing solutions is pretty much absent from Star Trek, though.

>>31497

Are those Trek themed pajamas?

>>31495

Not in CY+4. Chances are they zip up from the back to encourage homoerotic scenes of roommates dressing each other up.

>>31454

>which they theoretically could do non-cringily

Get raped by a pack of niggers, horsefucker

>>31497

Holy shit. Set phasers to 'soy.'

>>31497

GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE

I guess every nigger in the Jew Jew verse is a gay nigger. And Asian guys too.

>>31468

>>31474

Actually, now that I think about it they look kind of like the swoleverse designs. Could it be?

>>31497

Shit never mind, this is soyverse in the extreme.

>>31495

>The possibilities of future clothing solutions is pretty much absent from Star Trek, though.

Untrue. The TNG era uniforms were meant to have invisible fasteners/zips you could open at will which they accomplished just by using two different uniforms for open and closed. Roddenbery had weirdly specific autism about this.

>>31516

Stewart used to wear casual in the later season all the time.

>>31564

Terrible.

>>31564

Stewart's face looks like it's CGI. Beyond that, I can't dredge up enough emotion to hate this show. It's going to be bad, but not superlatively so like STD. I can't give a shit.

>>31564

>why did you leave Starfleet, Admiral?

Uh, because he looks like he's a million. Pobably goes to bed at 6:30.

>>31564

>“What happens when circumstances have conspired to not give him the happiest of endings? Hopefully, it’s a reinforcement of [Trek creator Gene] Roddenberry’s vision of optimism. He’s going to have to go through deep valleys to get back to the light,” Kurtzman told the LA Times.

What the fuck is the obsession with putting these nostalgia-bait legacy characters through depressing dramatic bullshit? They did the same shit with Luke Skywalker, now Picard gets it? So what happens now? We're going to hook up with him 25 years later and he's an embittered, cynical old man who left the ideals of starfleet behind because he SAW SOME SHIT, MAN?

Picard got stabbed in the heart, had numerous people die under his command, lost two ships in battle, got regularly captured and/or tortured by aliens, got fucking assimilated, got bounced around the time continuum so much they made him an honorary tachyon, and he still managed to come out on the other end with a wise word and a cup of tea.

I can't wait to find out how many of our old favorites from TNG died in the interim just to twist those pathos screws a little tighter.

>>31566

Don't be such a downer. It's not fair to write it off based on a little zero-content teaser that's aimed at casuals. At least give it a chance. Call me a pollyanna but I really think this has the potential to be absolutely hilariously terrible, much worse than STD. They've got an actual Trek actor reprising an iconic role and the "official" future of the "canon" timeline to burn down. They're playing with a live grenade this time.

>>31388

Bros, this has the STD cunts working on it, regardless of Sir Patrick Stewart's genius, its going to be shit :/

>>31564

>what did it cost you

<everything

>>31564

>why would an old man retire

It's a mystery!

>>31592

yes, Babylon 5 was one of my favorite scifi shows in fact. Although I always wished they had made the Centuri's french-ness a little more subtle design wise.

>>31564

Wasn't this one of Mike's ideas? To open up in his vineyard?

>>31610

Probably just because I'm more familiar with pre revolutionary France than I am with Hungary. And it always felt like everyone in 1700s Europe was just stealing their fashion styles from France anyway.

>>31611

Doesn't have to be Hungary in specific, but I would say that the major inspiration for the Centauri was the Hapsburg empire. Domination and political manoeuvring of the surrounding smaller powers, be it the princedoms of the HRE or species with lower tech and lesser presence in space, king of their respective heap until others who were their equal, or in a better position than themselves got involved. France tended to be in a different mindset, dead-locked against England, both planning invasions of the other but incapable of carrying through. The one connection I could see would be the Centauri-Naarn relationship arguably being similar to the French and the Algerians, but then you could find dozens of similar conflicts that came up from colonialism.

>>31610

They are a combination of a lot of continental European nations. I also see a fair bit of old Italian in there at times. I think it's simplistic to say that they are just an allegory for a single nation or conflict. They take elements from several to tell a universal story.

>>31613

Fair enough, B5 in general tends to avoid the general 'these aliens are this nation' tendency other settings tend to get struck by.

>>31612

>The one connection I could see would be the Centauri-Naarn relationship arguably being similar to the French and the Algerians, but then you could find dozens of similar conflicts that came up from colonialism.

That's the fun thing about B5: it's a classic post-colonial cold war allegory that you'll find in a thousand other sci-fi tales, but this time it's told from the perspective of the proxy nations and not the two ideologically-opposed superpowers.

>>31613

>I also see a fair bit of old Italian in there at times.

I think of the Centauri as a mix of the Byzantine Empire, as in an ever shrinking rump state jacking off to its former glory, and the Principate, as in calling itself a Republic despite being ruled by an Emperor and maintaining a relatively powerful Senate.

LONDO MOLARI DID NOTHING WRONG

>>31624

Cheating at cards IS wrong, even if you do it with your dick.

>>31565

What's terrible about it? I mean, it does come over as a bit like a wine commercial, and Stewart is obviously old af now, but I don't see what's so terrible of it.

I have no doubt it will be terrible (because the guys from STD will be in charge) but I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and will accept it for what it is.

>>31568

They do it because it reflects the Zeitgeist. We don't live in the 70s and 80s anymore where society had a vision of the future like utopian Star Trek or the imbued feeling of hope in Star Wars. The young generation feels like extreme shit is going to go down soon and nobody has a solution. Watch this:

https://youtu.be/gSvUqhZcbVg

(ignore the cringey channel name, the guy is really good)

>>31671

That picture looks like they CGI de-aged Stewart by 10 years, then CGI re-aged him up again by 20 years.

Picard shouldn't be an admiral. He should be ambassador. In his heart that was what his endgame always was.

>>31678

Ambassadors are not part of Starfleet, they are part of the civilian branch of the Federation.

>>31669

You know, I'd be all in on this concept, if they'd actually follow through. The idea put forth in TLJ that both of the legacy factions were full of shit, and the only way to move forward was to forge something new was actually interesting, but then they dropped it all so the Resistance could triumph over the evil empire again.

This will be the same. Picard will have doubts about the Federation, but this wont lead to any kind of deconstruction of the flawed Utopian philosophy of the Star Trek franchise. He'll just be grumpy for a while, and then see that he was wrong and get over it.

>>31674

>Once Picard became an admiral his higher security clearance allowed him to access the secret files on the USS Discovery and he became so disenfranchised by how fucking stupid that ship and crew were that he gave up on starfleet completely and resigned his commission. Now he spends his days getting blasted on his family label and rocking out to some classic Jethro Tull on his Ressikan flute.

>>31685

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>>31669

>(ignore the cringey channel name, the guy is really good)

why the name? I mean really, doesn't he feel embarrassed saying it out loud?

>>31684

>The idea put forth in TLJ that both of the legacy factions were full of shit, and the only way to move forward was to forge something new was actually interesting, but then they dropped it all so the Resistance could triumph over the evil empire again.

It's an extended metaphor for tearing down statues of whitey and replacing them with diversoids. I can't even imagine what the new Picard show might be about. In greater hands it might have been dull and pointless, but I feel confident they'll somehow craft it into a shitpile for the ages that's bad in ways we can't yet imagine.

>>31692

>why the name? I mean really, doesn't he feel embarrassed saying it out loud?

In a Q&A he said he originally wanted to make a parody of a channel called "RedPill Philosophy" and he apparently has stuck with the name since them. I don't know why he never feels compelled to change it, it obviously scares potential subscribers.

>>31692

In as much as the First Order and the Resistance do seem to resemble the modern political left and right, two relics, still psychologically fighting wars that were over and done with decades ago, doing nothing good for the world or for future generations, I understand the sentiment though. But apparently the answer is just go running back to the "revolutionaries", and kill the "Nazis" even harder.

It looks like Michael Chabon is the new showrunner.

>“I’m really so delighted, and I can’t believe I get a chance to be part of this,” Pulitzer Prize-winning author Michael Chabon told Deadline last fall about joining the writers room of CBS All Access’ Star Trek: Picard series as an executive producer. The lifelong Star Trek fan has now been named showrunner of the Star Trek revival that is bringing Trek icon Patrick Stewart back into Federation space.

>Chabon, who had been part of the core creative team on the series, is working closely on the day-to-day production with fellow executive producers, veteran Star Trek writer/producer Akiva Goldsman, and Alex Kurtzman, who continues to oversee the expansion of the growing Star Trek universe for CBS TV Studios.

https://deadline.com/2019/06/michael-chabon-showrunner-star-trek-picard-cbs-all-access-series-1202638580/

>>32133

So what do we know about this guy? I'm assuming he's a major faggot since there are no good people in CBS, but do we have specifics?

If this is any good ill eat my own shit, if it's terrible ill buy myself a huge fucking pizza and spitewatch the whole thing

Why couldn't Star Trek stay dead? There's no reason to continually disgrace the dead.

>>32137

Sounds like a visionary genius who refused to toe the Communist party line on Yidsney's propaganda… no doubt we can all look forward to a thoroughly pro-white television program, I only hope that the writing has more depth that pure Nazi-cheerleading

>>31704

>In as much as the First Order and the Resistance do seem to resemble the modern political left and right,

I mean, yeah they're meant to. Somehow the First Order, whose only ideology or motivation is to be as evil as possible all the time, keeps attracting followers and is overwhelmingly more numerous and powerful than ordinary good-hearted people in spite of being soundly defeated in war, and maybe not even being in control of the actual government? THIS IS WHAT LEFTISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>32144

It IS dead. It may look like your loved one, but it's only a shell. Shoot for the head and give it release at last.

>>31616

>the general 'these aliens are this nation' tendency other settings tend to get struck by.

What do you mean exactly?

This show is going to be cancerous cancer that came down with a case of cancer!

>>32151

A lot of fantasy and sci-fi settings model alien cultures or powers after stereotypes and tropes associated with a human culture. Sometimes it's allegory, and other times it's a worldbuilding shortcut. Examples of this in strek include how TOS Klingons are the Soviets, post-TOS Klingons are Japs, Vulcans/Romulans are inspired by ancient Greeks and Romans, and how Ferengi are Jews.

Original, TNG, Voyager, DS9. Everything after that is complete shit IMHO.

trek or drek? time will tell.

>>31412

Dunno, stopped watching after about the third time Janeway's idiocy left them marooned and the crew didn't space the bitch. A pure Starfleet I could see being that rule bound, but they were supposed to have a crew of half rebels. Nah.

>>31624

Yeah, he did. He should have been a little more suspicious, realized just a little sooner than Mr. Morden's "help" would probably have too high a price. Because there ain't no free shit fairy going to give you free "BOOM" to your enemies.

Just judge the results, a dead world.

He meant well, he truly would have done, eventually DID do, anything for his people. Intentions don't matter, just results.

>>31684

Which doesn't make any damned sense at all. We are told in the Prequels that the Jedi had maintained peace, order, stability and prosperity for "a thousand generations." The worlds inside the Republic we see are all nice places to live. Hell, even Tatooine isn't the worst place for a desert craphole off the beaten path. Seems a Sith would pop up every once in awhile and get promptly curb stomped. Can somebody tell be what the everloving fuck is the problem here that needs fixing? The Jedi are all just waiting for the Chosen One.

The only hint of a problem is their apparent stupidity when confronted with the prophecy about Anakin. He was supposed to bring "balance to the Force." See above. And they couldn't figure out that it was going to be bad. Think Yoda had an inkling or two but Ben was totally surprised by Anakin's entirely predictable betrayal.

>>31402

>There ARE five lights, and each of them more diverse than the next.

meinseids

>>31476

http://stardrugs.ytmnd.com/

>>31454

>a galactic war done right

What is that? How do you envision such a war, under what conditions leading to it? Would it involve the entire galaxy, and how long would it last?

>>32134

Ha. If they could have Picard be wise, conservative and manning his own experimental starship like Yamato's Captain Avatar (Star Blazers).

>>32137

Chabon? Is he a good writer or something?

You're saying CBS would give him a freedom that wouldn't appear suspicious?

>>32198

>>a galactic war done right

>What is that? How do you envision such a war,

Lasting millions of years. But in ST? Probably 30 battles between a few hundreds vessels lol

>>31417

Not wrong I just skipped around VOY to the episodes that were either big tiddies or funny doctor man.

>>31417

Nope, it was hipsterism and proto-SJW that had it against VOY. Notice how the complaint is that VOY isn't as deep and rethorical: this is exactly whatis brought up to prop STD. Star Trek was never a vehicle for deep thought and there is nothing wrong with focusing it on adventure.

VOY is TNG with the same action mentality of the TOS movies. If you honestly believe it's too unsophisticated for your tastes and Flash Gordon like adventure are holding Trek back from greatness, then you've been manipulated into believing their agenda.

>>31402

Include me in the cap.

>>32214

It's not that VOY had fun adventure stuff that it's not liked - because, as you say, TNG and TOS had fun action stuff. It's that it's never anything but shallow fun, whereas TOS and TNG had deep and rhetorical mixed in with fun.

>>32214

The main problem of VOY was the reset button.

>>32214

>Notice how the complaint is that VOY isn't as deep and rethorical

I don't notice that complaints anywhere.

>>32220

I love it when you nail a faggot, so he tries to deny

>I don't notice that complaints anywhere.

but he doesn't realize his butt pals already proved him wrong

>>32216

>never anything but shallow fun

>>32296

I'm honestly excited as long as Kurtzman is marginalised. At least it's gonna be at a much slower pace than the epileptical disaster that is STD, and maybe they turn down on the SJW stuff too. Picard navigating through Federation politics, getting tangled up in a conspiracy, and then goes to space again is all really exciting now that they have a big budget.

>>32214

Basically all episodes in Trek revolve around some ethical/philosophical dilemma. Even in the first season of TOG you had tropes like racism when they are suspicious of Spock in Balance of Terror.

Compared to the Sci-fi that came before, ST was a massive leap in content that is a bit more high-brow. It's certainly more deep than Star Wars. I mean it's still a mainstream show but it went as deep as you could go for a mainstream show back in this day, certainly no Tarkovski movie but still okay.

Today's viewer preferences are different, you got shit like Westworld but Star Trek can't be just brainless advernture fun if it wants to keep up. That was pretty much the JJ Abrams reboot tho, and look how people received it.

>>32296

Is that dog named Geordi?

>>32296

I love how this represents everything wrong with Kurtzman and the people involved in this shit show. All they know about Picard is him playing the flute, saying "make it so" or "engage" and that scene from a future in "All Good Things…".

In reality:

<Picard had no interest in the vineyard, it was his brother's

<He never had a baby killer friendly dog, he is a horserider

>>32322

>I'm honestly excited

Haven't you been tortured enough? Don't get your hopes up.

>>32322

Do you like getting ravaged in your asshole with an unlubed spiked dildo?

>>32296

>>32322

It's going to be made of fail and aids.

>>32329

>Picard had no interest in the vineyard, it was his brother's

Eh, I don't believe that. Picard treasures old things and his family name, and has a love of horticulture. He's just an explorer and diplomat by nature. He would totally start a vineyard when he retired, especially with his brother having died.

I just want to know when we can get the Picard show.

Will it really be on Amazon, or Netflix and CBS?

https://youtu.be/fwjvRgxCAg0

>>32383

The Picard spin-off will be on CBS All Access in the US and on Amazon for the rest of the world.

>>32387

Do you have a release date? I hope it is coming soon. Will Netflix keep Disco? Or will that be just CBS all access from now on.

>>32390

No release date yet, maybe more info at Comic Con or Star Trek Las Vegas Convention.

>Will Netflix keep Disco?

We'll see next year.

>>31684

>>32167

When RLM brought out that shitty TFA review which wasn't even a review A guy called hack-fraud media made his own Plinkett review of

TFA.

He then went on to do TLJ as well and he had a pretty interesting take on the Grey Jedi.

He called it a dumb idea because if the Jedi and Sith were based on the idea of Daoism then a Jedi would not fight against the feelings of hatred but control them. Realizing that those dark forces will always exist within himself.

A Sith in the same sense would simply be someone who couldn't and would fly off the handle. Simply a matter of being in control of yourself and not.

>>32374

He's also supposed to degenerate and die from space Alzheimer at that point if Q's timey-woobley bullshit is to be believed.

>>32398

But given that he learned about his vulnerability to Irumodic syndrome, and was able to get his pet MILF to detect the minor defect which would have eventually caused it, couldn't he have prevented its onset?

>>32296

Oh no… is that the dog breed of peace?

>>32404

Gene therapy is illegal lol to an unclearly defined extent.

Turning Barckley into Spiderman or Picard back into a kid never brought up the law but boosting your IQ can land you and your family into jail, maybe curing the Irumodic syndrome falls into that realm.

>>32296

Why the fuck is he wearing Starfox boots??

>>32416

He's going to do a barrel roll!

What's with all the /strek/ threads under King of the Shekel? How big of a jew is the BO?

>>32419

The fuck are you on about?

>>32423

There are currently 5 /strek/ threads on the front page under King of the Shekel, and this isn't the first time it's happened. You have to pay to get those spots, so to the fuck is paying for this shit and why?

>>32425

Maybe Jim did it.

>>31397

Has Midnight's Edge been right about anything?

it is so strange seeing picard holding a smartphone in the video at the top of the thread

>>31440

Picard gonna say fuck dat vinyard shit, I need dat green seal tiddie milk

>>32434

I don't believe their latest rumor about Kurtman being fired. I think their source inside CBS got fucked and they feed them false information. It's funny how a day later there was a bunch of interviews with Kurtzman about his 5 (or more) Star Trek projects.

>>32446

I wish he would let us have Axinar while we wait for him to finish something.

>>32450

I don't think Axanar will ever happen. The guy is too busy starting drama left and right.

>>31396

That looks like Ron Paul commanding a starship.

>>31609

Yes.

>>31433

Given how crazy avery brooks is supposed to have been in the '90s you have to figure being 70 years old now, he'd be absolutely brilliant for the production of this show.

Make it so.

>>32491

That doggo better be in the show.

>>32509

Bad Robot is a Abraham's subsidiary. Their creed is emotion over logic, form over function.

>>32539

New Xmen movie looks nice.

>>32539

so many stronk wymyn

>>32539

do people seriously want to see a tottering old man Picard trying to relive the old days finding his friends again?

>>32552

this show looks almost entirely based on the films

Though I'd forgive this show a little if they delved into what caused the supernova that blew up Romulus. Maybe it was all Shinzon's doing and him going after Earth was just a distraction to do something to the Romulan sun that would ensure the destruction of Romulus. It would give a reason for Picard to want to retire if he felt he could have stopped it.

>>32539

no

>>32539

It's another show that revolves around a Mary Sue no one cares about. It's like they saw the new Star Wars films and decided they had to copy it.

>>32539

>referencing Nemesis

Rookie mistake. If you're going to put out hot garbage, you bait the audience in by referencing something that grabs at their nostalgia. Making them remember the last time you butchered the franchise isn't going to win any points.

>>32571

That image convinced me. Also, why is Seven in the show if it isn't an overall borg story?

>>32571

The Trailer is on Youtube now.

>>>/sf/32

>>32574

Sorry, like this.

>>/sf/983

>>32575

>>32577

More garbage from Jew Jew.

>>32578

Jew me?

>>32547

Better question: Why is Data in this at all?

>Don't answer that, we know it's nostalgia $$$.

The de-aging tech has to be god awful expensive and it looks pretty shitty here, so I can't imagine he's going to be in this show very much unless they immediately have him make some physical modifications to himself so they can use Spiner's real face.

I'm not necessarily opposed to bringing Data back, but god they have an opportunity to fuck it up royally. And given the "talent" on display at CBS I'm expecting nothing less than an absolute dumpster fire.

>>32581

>Better question: Why is Data in this at all?

Why not be happy that he is?

>>32577

Is that Spiner in the end? His new make-up looks creepy as shit. Also, Seven of Nine, lol. If they're bringing back all the old guard I guess the make-up department has to do a hell of a job.

The new characters they introduced looked pretty uninteresting. Either Steward or one of the old actors carries this show or it's doomed, because these vanilla no-name characters won't get anybody's attention.

My biggest gripe with this trailer is that it confirms that it'll go with a grim-dark atmosphere which isn't bad per se, but it betrays the TNG aesthetic, starships in the 24th century don't look like the ship from Alien or Event Horizon. That's crap. The ship design in the TNG movies was bright yet they still had darker themes, you don't need design everything like in a Horror-SciFi movie to get the message across.

Also, Steward is really old now. His voice sounds pretty old. However this seems to be looking better than Discovery. I've also not seen any lense flares and overly hectic camera movements which made STD so unpleasant to watch.

>>32582

AFAIK the Borg Queen seemed to be able to rebuild herself in multiple cubes. It seems to be impossible to kill her, all Janeway did was to destroy a large section of Unimatrix Zero, this is my no means an irreversible damage to the Borg. Even if the genetic material or software to build the Queen was destroyed for good, the Queen isn't the "leader" of the Borg. It's not like Sauron where you need to pull the trigger on him to make all the orcs drop dead. The Queen is just the manifestation of their collective consciousness, she doesn't control them, she's more the manifestation of the control of the hive mind. There is no indication that all the drones are suddenly "freed" when the Queen is destroyed.

What I'm rather thinking is that the mysterious woman who he says "is in great danger" may be the daughter of Tasha Yar or something. I mean, that they bring the Borg back was almost a guarantee, they're everyone's favourite villian, even STD couldn't restrain itself from writing something that looks like the Borg origin story (?).

>>32564

Nemesis is still widely accepted as canon, and this series will be the first Picard instalment after it, I'm afraid you have to reference something. But it doesn't look like the Romulans play a role at all.

>>32587

You're thinking too intelligently. That's exactly what the Borg Queen is in the mind of a hack writer.

>>32589

>the mind of a hack writer

<Chabon's work is characterized by complex language, the frequent use of metaphor along with recurring themes, including nostalgia, divorce, abandonment, fatherhood, and most notably issues of Jewish identity. He often includes gay, bisexual, and Jewish characters in his work.

So Picard will have been divorced from Beverly for some time (just like "All Good Things" - no happy endings in grimdark Trek!) because he's still depressed over Data's death and can't get his shit together. The girl who comes to him for help likely has abandonment issues and Picard will have to assume a fatherly role, much as he did with Data. 2/3 of his new crew will be fags and the Borg will be stand-ins for the Jews, being tortured & exploited by a group of Romulan radicals trying to reverse engineer their tech to build a new Empire.

>>31454

>I'd like to see a galactic war done right

LOGH, basically

the main problem is that it's difficult to dramatize a battle on that scale without resorting to clusterfuck shots and tactical screens

>>31668

Speaking of wine commercials, i would like to see Damar reviewing Picard Vineyard wines like he does for the paso robles chamber of commerce

We can hope that Picard takes over as the main current Trek. Then we can pretend that Discovery never happened, and that it was just another failed fan film. Captain Picard to the rescue. Maybe a visit from Michael the red angel in a cat suit would be perfect as a cameo, but not all the time.

Or maybe Discovery would be better with a new cat suit girl. That is how the saved Voyager.

>>32571

Seems about right, but her just being the Borg Queen doesn't feel right. She doesn't move or fight like a Borg; rather more like an android. And the fact that Data (err, well… B4 but whatever) is somehow involved with all this shit makes me think of Lal. Like before he died Data made another daughter and didn't tell anyone because she ran away or something. So less the leader of the Borg by way of being their Queen, and more their leader the same way Lore was.

Either way, this whole "Picard protecting a young woman" thing makes me think of a bizarre version of Logan where Charles Xaviar rather than Wolverine was the one taking care of Little Miss Spikyshoes.

>>32581

It's possible that's actually B4, who's progressed to be more Data like in the time since Nemesis.

>>32577

before trailer:

>Actually excited trying to forget that anything these faggots put out these days is going to be trash

after trailer:

<no longer excited

thanks CBS

>>32604

maybe they stole the idea from the orville and after the borg are largely defeated and fractured b4 decides non-droids are to be shoah'd and builds an army of angry b4's to purify the galaxy.

remaining borg are now allies because they are getting purged too.

HEY WHAT DO PEOPLE REMEMBER FROM POST-TOS TREK FOR OUR EDGY VIOLENT CASHGRAB?

>Picard

>Data

>7 of 9

>the Borg

GREAT WORK LADS, JUST THROW A GIRL WHO'S THE CHOSEN ONE AND A FEW VULCAN TWINKS IN AND WE CAN CALL IT A DAY

I think someone sent them in the Ensign Mary Sue script as a gag and they took it seriously.

>>32571

>x days without an assimilation

Oh fuck, it's true. It's literally about poor oppressed Borg refugees.

>>32615

>Scrawny soybeard faggots anywhere they couldn't put a stronk female because finding actors who can have some gravitas and presence is impossible now

tbf, it kinda is.

>Dark, ugly sets that look nothing like Trek and all the backgrounds are obnoxiously out of focus

Yeah, there is no reason why they'd do that. I assume Picard becomes a renegade and has to use some smuggler vessel or something because they can't possible make 24th century Fed ships that dark.

>>32618

Sounds more realistic but even more horrible. Please stop guys, you're starting to convince me. I thought it was impossible to ruin the Borg more than VOY did, but here we go. This is what I hate when a franchise comes up with a captivating, iconic villain - Hollywood will always milk that cow till it's dead and looses all villian charisma. Just look at Terminator.

btw I just remember that people on this board were saying the Red Angel was Micheal Burnham and I dismissed it because it would have been too fucking stupid even for them and then it turned out to be true. It was Michael - and her mom, to make it even more stupid.

I wish /strek/ wasn't right all the time.

>>32618

>Maybe the Macguffin girl has a similar genetic makeup and they see her as a "chosen one" who will become the next queen.

inb4 she's the daughter of the Borg queen and Locutus

>>32615

I think it was who they could afford to pay.

>>32621

She will be. No doubt.

I really am getting sick of this shit anyway. This shit isn't Star Trek. I refuse to call it such. It's now it's own genre and I call it Soy Trek. It's clearly a parody of Star Trek as nobody would make this and think it was legit.

There are only two premises here with Oldcard that would work.

The first would be an retired Picard wasting away when Q gives him a visit and two of them go on one final epic road trip to explore realms beyond the fabric of reality itself and having epic court case battles against cosmic entities that have been breaking a few rules of reality too many.

The other would be Tom Hardy in a goatee showing up one day and telling an elderly Stewart to make it swole.

>>32596

What I want is a scene of a kid watching Discovery on TV and it becomes canon that STD is just some shitty TV show in universe.

>>32633

Small blessings. Means O'Brien doesn't have to suffer anymore.

>>32634

Actually you know what you're right. I really hope to Christ they don't actually bring back Bajorian Jesus as a major plot point. Or maybe I want that; Bajorian Space Jesus Sisko ascends from the wormhole and obliterates the borg.

That Borg ICE idea makes a lot of sense considering that screencap and the cunts making it. The Mary Sue is certainly Borg-related. She says to Picard 'everything inside me says that I'm safe with you' because he was Locutus, and of course Hugh recognised Picard as Locutus at first as well.

>>32635

there was a reason why the q have a rule not to antagonize the borg.

>Borg show up again because lol the fleet was requested 3 series ago is here now. Black Jesus shows increasingly biarre clips of 1950's america and actors out of facepaint to lure the mc and the borg to the wormhole and BAM no more borg.

16 more borg fleets show up in quick succession same result, Black Jesus is slightly worried at this point and actually does a kombyja session to help smooth things over.

>next borg fleet partially assimilates a prophet before being destroyed

<Fleet from the week before is revealed to have already succesfully assimilated Pah-Wraith. Slow reveal around black jesus of the depth of the borg infestation and bajor is a complete write off. Jew inserts are actually homeless now (probably will be moved to earth in the middle east and given a protectorate whcih they will be profoundly ungrateful for as nerys and wynn was right the whole time).

Borg entirely ignore the wormhole at that point except destroy the communications arrays and dust the area with borg nanomachines (son) that are self replicating (similar to the mine field but nanomachines). Gamma Quadrant is cut off again except for true way forces and a handful of shifters left on this side of the hole. Dominion is happy to go back to being the big dog on their side of the pond. Black Jesus fucks off back to the wormhole after going back in time to call locustus racist (and thus set up for the first fleet to be dispatched). Borg go back to being mindless drones who are exceedingly good at converting things to nanomachines and ignoring shields.

>>32633

Which DS9 character would they go with? Maybe Kira because she's le ebin rebel?

So what's the betting pool for the Mary Sue going to be?

Somehow she's Data's daughter ether the old one or some new attempt? Some sort of advanced entirely nanotech version of the borg that can pass for human? Or they've full retard mode, and she's literally the lovechild of the Borg Queen and Data, created by magic borg nano bullshit and people are hunting her because "she's the perfect fusion of technology and organics and the final ultimate form of life that the Borg were always trying to create for centuries"?

It's literally another holocaust story

>>32644

Bashir since he's a doctor, he could've helped the borg drones get rid of their implants.

At least it wouldn't be a cheap nostalgia bait like Troi.

>>32648

>she's literally the lovechild of the Borg Queen and Data

There's nothing in First Contact that disproves that they might actually have fucked. 0.68 seconds is long enough to fail to pull out in time, and I highly doubt that a "fully functional" Data is only having dry orgasms.

All kidding aside, that's gross as shit and the audience won't go for it, but a bullshit "the Borg somehow DID assimilate Data and then made a cybernetic gynoid-Borg-clone" would work.

>>32655

> I highly doubt that a "fully functional" Data is only having dry orgasms.

>Soong secretly put a sizable container of his own frozen sperm into a dispenser located inside the pelvis of all his androids so if they ever fucked a human compatible female there's a chance they'd actually carry on the Soong genetic line.

Jesus, that almost sounds plausible.

>>32650

If you think about it, Bashir's augmented skills would make him the perfect rehabilitation officer for ex-drones. He's already got experience with tard-wrangling, he's got the aug reflexes to put down any who get uppity, his surgical skills are top-notch, the only thing he lacks is actual experience with Borg.

They REALLY need to stop trying to make Star Trek look like a fucking movie; it's not a coincidence that all the best of Star Trek's actual movies were shot like a TV episode.

>>32680

Kurtzman thinks that everything has to look "cinematic".

>>32648

Seems like Data is in it and looking very 'green'

https://youtu.be/vs9QIWvzIZk

>>32659

>Be B4

>get a mercy/just feeling hard up fuck from some random ensign

>maybe some black girl

>make jew soong / negro "high yellow" (eyes) hybrid

see what I did there?

>>32547

>What the fuck happened to Data's face?

Geordie reassembled him wrong… as a lesson on humor

>>32620

dynastic lineages are okay if they are matrilineal

it's only bad if it's a patriarchy

>>31568

subverting expectations for pride and accomplishment

>>32659

Totally sounds like something he would do. Soong was one of the biggest narcissists on the planet, right next to Zimmerman. When you make an artificial creation that looks and thinks exactly like you do, clearly your ego is the size of the fucking Mutara Nebula.

>>32648

Nanomachines ruined metal gear solid 4.

>>32491

At the end of the show it's revealed that the whole thing was a fever dream of dying Picard. Then Patrick Stewart dies on set.

>>32733

>uncle tom

how come black and whites look the same in klingon garb?

maybe peter dinklage as angry drunken klingon dwarf warrior that doesn't shy away from nut shots and has a vulcan friend give him piggy back rides

>>32733

> fans have been agitating for more Worf

No, it's just Michael Dorn who wants his Captain Worf spin-off.

>>32547

I remember the reason Data was killed off is because Spiner specifically felt like he was getting too old to play Data anymore.

Now he looks like play-doh face.

>>32785

I actually like the idea of President Worf

>>32790

Yeah but wasn't he an ambassador of the Klingon Empire at the end of DS9? I don't see him staying in politics long enough to become the President of the Federation.

Only way to save Picard show is revive Gowron and for him to throw chairs at all the soyboys.

>>32785

Did Dorn like being Worf that much? I was under the impression that he was pretty neutral on the role, but kept at it because it was a big moneymaker for him.

>>32788

Then just have Data age. It's already established that he can control the length and color of his hair. And it's not as if they actually killed him anyways, Data backed himself up onto B4. Just pretend Nemesis doesn't exist at all. It's not only bad, it breaks canon.

Some new insight/fuckery.

>>32803

Bryan Fuller's alleged Picard/Data pitch:

>Romulus is being evacuated prior to the supernova that Spock was trying to stop in the JewJew movies

>Data, now a captain, is leading the rescue armada, but is trying to find a way to save more people

>Data enlists Seven of Nine and a bunch of Borg refugees to do "mass assimilations" which somehow saves more people (?) but also traumatizes them

>Starfleet questions Data's decision and believes he lacks empathy for organic life

>Picard, now an ambassador, is trying to relocate the Romulans. He is put into conflict with Data over his use of the Borg due to lingering feelings over being assimilated.

>Picard is also conflicted about the onset of Irumodic Syndrome and the possibility that Borg tech could help and/or cure it.

It seems like only a few bones of this story remains in the show at least based on the trailers and info they've released. Picard is now the one who led the rescue armada to Romulus and the trailer makes it seem like Data is still dead, at least at the beginning. And there's no mention of the Macguffin girl or Picard having to go rogue with his new Firefly crew in Fuller's version.

>>32804

>Data enlists Seven of Nine and a bunch of Borg refugees to do "mass assimilations" which somehow saves more people (?) but also traumatizes them

I'll take a guess that maybe this tricked the borg into using their ships to evacuate them. That or it made them super easy to pack like sardines into the available ships.

>>32539

So they made proper Star Trek into a big dumb action movie… It's officially fucking dead.

I have a bit more faith in this than Discovery.

>a couple of potentially interesting ideas

>seems to be majorly focused on the diverse races of the ST universe rather than just being all about the blacks and the gays

>no major violations of canon, at least as far as I can tell yet

>it's not just another pointless middlequel about a time period no one ever asked to see

>rumours saying Kurtzman has been relegated to more of a ceremonial role

It's potentially got legs to stand on, if they can manage not to drop every ball. That's a big "if", I know.

>>32801

Yeah, a typical case of "writers did not do their research" combined with "Hollywood is the entire world. Dogs with cropped ears or docked tails are unheard of in Europe (and, though we can't see the back end of this dog, $50 bucks that he's also been neutered) even in this day and age, to say nothing of a century or two from now in the enlightened Federation.

Which also raises the point that it's TOTALLY IMPROBABLE that dog breeds would look the same as they do presently, centuries down the line, especially considered how easy it is for them to manipulate genetics. This would actually have been a fine opportunity to wrap an actual dog in green spandex and CGI in a breed of dog that is like nothing we've ever seen before, over its movements.

>>32804

>>32809

>do "mass assimilations" which somehow saves more people (?) but also traumatizes them

I'll take a crack at this one, just because it's probably a more interesting idea than what they actually came up with.

>Planet is going to be destroyed in minutes

>Ships can't carry enough of them even assuming they can be transported because it's fucking billions

>Send down Borg drones to assimilate everyone who can't be evacuated

>Their minds are now added to the collective

>Use transporters to "scan" those people's bodies without actually beaming them, saving the information

>Planet blows, the people are killed but their minds are still in the collective

>Use the transporter to recreate bodies for all the people who were killed

>Pluck their minds out of the collective and reunite them with the proper body (or the body of a loli, if you ask nicely)

Thing is, all of this is feasible from what's been established in Trek, but raises nasty philosophical questions about Ship of Theseus, mind/body dualism, persistence of consciousness, etc.. Many of them would question whether they were really still alive or merely cloned with the memories of a dead person. Not to mention there's the whole being ripped from a comfy mental collective (shadows of DS9's Great Link) and dealing with a life of permanent mental isolation thereafter. It was a pain in the ass rehabilitating Seven, and now you've got seven-billion more.

>>32811

>interesting ideas

They are mystery boxes anon, don't fool yourself.

>not about blacks and gays

0 chance of this whatsoever.

>no major violations of canon

It's just a fucking trailer, I can guarantee these will be numerous.

>Kurtzman's role is ceremonial

What genius do you think replaced him?

>>32815

>What genius do you think replaced him?

The guy who wrote the Short Trek episode about the Discovery AI wanting to get blacked.

>>32815

What? I'm talking about the aftermath of the destruction of Romulus, and the probability that the Borg collective breaking down is going to be part of the plot. How are those mystery boxes?

>>32804

Destroying Romulus was the most retarded thing they could have done honestly. It also makes no sense that Romulans needed help to evacuate anyone.

>>32826

I'm actually interested in the destruction of Romulus, it means a shift in the power balance, while I will not be watching this new series, I want to see what happens to all that Romulan territory, and if it will spark any conflicts.

Also, is this Picard series taking place in the normal timeline, or the Jew Jew timeline?

>>32829

"Prime timeline" which is it's whole own can of worms. You're meant to think of it as the original timeline though.

>>32830

So is it the timeline of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT?

>>32829

>the destruction of Romulus, it means a shift in the power balance

I know it's the homeworld but isn't it just one planet compared to the rest of the Romulan Star Empire.

>>32831

>Canon = TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, Films. Effectively dead due to corporate fuckery.

>Prime = All of the above, re-interpreted under the current CBS "alternate" Star Trek license. STD and Picard are here.

>Kelvin = Abrams movies, also produced under an alternate license. Sub-set of the "Prime" timeline.

>>32829

Should have some ultra conservative Romulan warlords taking over.

>>32832

An anon I remember ranted about this on /vg/ that losing one's homeworld does not mean your fucking navy disappears.

>>32833

Is this canon/Prime distinction actually true as to storytelling, or just an extrapolation by over-popular YouTube cunts high off their own view counts?

>>32853

In terms of storytelling, technically no. The distinction has more to do with merchandising rights.

However, considering STD is a flaming shit pile of canon contradictions and is stylistically and thematically divorced from the previous Trek properties, I'd say the distinction is there in the storytelling as well.

>>32819

I mean that those things will never be explored because resolving stories is less fun than starting new ones.

>>32833

Some of the characters are coming back though. Picard will return with 7 of 9 and Data. Once they figure out the fans are smarter than they give us credit. They will start fixing our trek up the way we want it.

https://youtu.be/tEMC2AnFN_k

>>32875

>As for the dog, it should have been an exotic animal instead.

A targ, given by Worf.

>>32865

All I'm saying is enough pieces are there that they could make something decent, not that I trust them to do that in any way.

Discovery was flawed even at a conceptual level.

>lol. Our protagonist is Spock's secret black sister who's better than everyone, and we're focusing on a war with Klingons who are nothing like Klingons.

I see they upgraded the borg cubes to blue LEDs.

I had a small hope this wouldn't be terrible, I guess because I have a soft spot for Picard but this is going to be the same generic SciFi shit with the obligatory "REMEMBER THIS FOLKS?!?" nostalgia shoe-in. All-new STD tanked and they probably thought "shit this isn't working, we need to bring back the old characters, that'll bring the shekels". Obviously no old star trek episode was ever watched by a writer.

The saddest thing about this is that I was genuinely surprised the stronk womyn main character (let's not kid ourselves here, she will be) is not a peeohhceee but devilishly white. Somebody's gonna obviously lose some good boy points about this wrongthink.

Also lol at the faggy soy manlets, jesus.

>>32591

The most useless thing on earth is a Jewish writer who focuses on homosexuality and divorce.

>>32875

How come nobody ever thinks about the Darth Vader approach? Cast a cheap, no-name younger actor as Data (make up some technobabble bullshit reason as to why he looks slightly different in the face, and then have Spiner dub over his lines. A person can do voice-acting work until they're basically dead.

>>32902

>vulcans are now faggy space elves

>implying they weren't always

>>32939

I think that kind of Frankensteining is kind of uncanny in a character driven show. Darth Vader is one thing. He's a guy in a mask who's supposed to look scary. If we're bringing Data back at all, I'd rather have Brent Spiner looking old, than some uncanny valley shit.

Data looks like he's storing nuts for winter. Well, Brent Spiner is in his 70s. (Yes, Data was in his 40s for the shows run, he just didn't look that old) Without some computer effects he'd be bound to look ridiculous in that makeup.

It shows how cheap the whole thing is, they just hope to pull viewers in with it, that's why these actors are there. Especially with Data it would be trivial to take some young actor and just claim that he got another body or something. Although it would've probably just been another homosexual soy manlet (which hollywood seems to consist of these days) and it would've probably been terrifying to see that. TNG/DS9/etc. were quite a big part of my teenage years and it's really sad to see that zoomers get this shit instead, but they're probably too busy playing fortnite and sucking each other off anyways. The golden age of the west is ending, hence this never-ending, self referential nostalgia

Patrick Steward looks and sounds really old and while people kept saying all these years "he never aged" it's quite obvious now that he did. He just seems.. frail. Even Shatner comes across better. (Seriously, watch some recent interview with him, he's as sharp and well-spoken as ever. Dude is almost 90 and does not look and act like it)

What we'd really need for a good space opera is a completely new franchise with new people and new stories but it's not gonna happen in the current climate. Instead we will get to see Spocks cousin twice removed fleshing out some stupid background story about some random utterance in TOS/TNG/whatever.

>>32947

Honestly with data they could just claim he was trying to experience the ageing process like a normal human. Done. Obviously if it's B4 that's a little bit harder to work in.

>>32947

>Even Shatner comes across better … Dude is almost 90 and does not look and act like it

Some people are like that. Instead of slowly running down in their 70's and 80's and then fading into death, they're spry and active into their 90's and then one day just drop dead with zero warning.

>>32948

Like when pre Nemesis future he became a skunk?

>>32901

>The saddest thing about this is that I was genuinely surprised the stronk womyn main character (let's not kid ourselves here, she will be) is not a peeohhceee but devilishly white. Somebody's gonna obviously lose some good boy points about this wrongthink.

I'm guessing it's actually Picard's daughter so the series title will still make sense after PS kicks the bucket

>>32975

It will be Picard and Wesleys long lost love child.

>>32975

>Implying the series will go on for long enough for him to actually die

>Implying it'll last more than a season

>Implying TV shows even do seasons anymore instead of just ordering twelve episodes and then seeing how things go

>>32995

>ordering twelve episodes and then seeing how things go

Isn't that what a season is?

>>32976

>Picard and Wesleys long lost love child.

What?

>>32999

A season used to be twice that many episodes.

>>33026

Only in Muttland. Elsewhere it's like 6 episodes a Season.

>>32999

A season is more like 20+ episodes (most TNG seasons were 26). It was also typical for more than one season to be planned at first, with even poorly-performing shows getting at least a couple before being cancelled.

But more to the point, a season is meant to be a certain number of episodes that fill a roughly year-long set of TV timeslots, not counting summer months and a few weeks around Christmas. But that's not how these streaming services work. They just release all the episodes at once, and not nearly as many as would otherwise be. I think Stranger Things' last "season" was just eight episodes. It's entirely probable, should this series not be very popular, for it to last only one "season" and be less than ten episodes.

wow dropped harder than me at birth

>>33026

That used to be the convention, yes, but a season wasn't a set number of episodes. Season 1 of Voyager was only 12 episodes long.

They’re bringing him back just long enough to say he’s gay.

Why the fuck not in US? Picard is my fave :(