33eb08 No.31388 [View All]
It looks like the new Picard spin-off is going to be on Amazon Prime instead of Netflix outside of the US and Canada.
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eba9ef No.32803
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Some new insight/fuckery.
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1c2b94 No.32804
>>32803
Bryan Fuller's alleged Picard/Data pitch:
>Romulus is being evacuated prior to the supernova that Spock was trying to stop in the JewJew movies
>Data, now a captain, is leading the rescue armada, but is trying to find a way to save more people
>Data enlists Seven of Nine and a bunch of Borg refugees to do "mass assimilations" which somehow saves more people (?) but also traumatizes them
>Starfleet questions Data's decision and believes he lacks empathy for organic life
>Picard, now an ambassador, is trying to relocate the Romulans. He is put into conflict with Data over his use of the Borg due to lingering feelings over being assimilated.
>Picard is also conflicted about the onset of Irumodic Syndrome and the possibility that Borg tech could help and/or cure it.
It seems like only a few bones of this story remains in the show at least based on the trailers and info they've released. Picard is now the one who led the rescue armada to Romulus and the trailer makes it seem like Data is still dead, at least at the beginning. And there's no mention of the Macguffin girl or Picard having to go rogue with his new Firefly crew in Fuller's version.
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ea088e No.32809
>>32804
>Data enlists Seven of Nine and a bunch of Borg refugees to do "mass assimilations" which somehow saves more people (?) but also traumatizes them
I'll take a guess that maybe this tricked the borg into using their ships to evacuate them. That or it made them super easy to pack like sardines into the available ships.
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9708fb No.32810
>>32539
So they made proper Star Trek into a big dumb action movie… It's officially fucking dead.
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eba9ef No.32811
I have a bit more faith in this than Discovery.
>a couple of potentially interesting ideas
>seems to be majorly focused on the diverse races of the ST universe rather than just being all about the blacks and the gays
>no major violations of canon, at least as far as I can tell yet
>it's not just another pointless middlequel about a time period no one ever asked to see
>rumours saying Kurtzman has been relegated to more of a ceremonial role
It's potentially got legs to stand on, if they can manage not to drop every ball. That's a big "if", I know.
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a4e769 No.32813
>>32801
Yeah, a typical case of "writers did not do their research" combined with "Hollywood is the entire world. Dogs with cropped ears or docked tails are unheard of in Europe (and, though we can't see the back end of this dog, $50 bucks that he's also been neutered) even in this day and age, to say nothing of a century or two from now in the enlightened Federation.
Which also raises the point that it's TOTALLY IMPROBABLE that dog breeds would look the same as they do presently, centuries down the line, especially considered how easy it is for them to manipulate genetics. This would actually have been a fine opportunity to wrap an actual dog in green spandex and CGI in a breed of dog that is like nothing we've ever seen before, over its movements.
>>32804
>>32809
>do "mass assimilations" which somehow saves more people (?) but also traumatizes them
I'll take a crack at this one, just because it's probably a more interesting idea than what they actually came up with.
>Planet is going to be destroyed in minutes
>Ships can't carry enough of them even assuming they can be transported because it's fucking billions
>Send down Borg drones to assimilate everyone who can't be evacuated
>Their minds are now added to the collective
>Use transporters to "scan" those people's bodies without actually beaming them, saving the information
>Planet blows, the people are killed but their minds are still in the collective
>Use the transporter to recreate bodies for all the people who were killed
>Pluck their minds out of the collective and reunite them with the proper body (or the body of a loli, if you ask nicely)
Thing is, all of this is feasible from what's been established in Trek, but raises nasty philosophical questions about Ship of Theseus, mind/body dualism, persistence of consciousness, etc.. Many of them would question whether they were really still alive or merely cloned with the memories of a dead person. Not to mention there's the whole being ripped from a comfy mental collective (shadows of DS9's Great Link) and dealing with a life of permanent mental isolation thereafter. It was a pain in the ass rehabilitating Seven, and now you've got seven-billion more.
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8604e3 No.32815
>>32811
>interesting ideas
They are mystery boxes anon, don't fool yourself.
>not about blacks and gays
0 chance of this whatsoever.
>no major violations of canon
It's just a fucking trailer, I can guarantee these will be numerous.
>Kurtzman's role is ceremonial
What genius do you think replaced him?
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c02016 No.32817
>>32815
>What genius do you think replaced him?
The guy who wrote the Short Trek episode about the Discovery AI wanting to get blacked.
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eba9ef No.32819
>>32815
What? I'm talking about the aftermath of the destruction of Romulus, and the probability that the Borg collective breaking down is going to be part of the plot. How are those mystery boxes?
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30e8e8 No.32826
>>32804
Destroying Romulus was the most retarded thing they could have done honestly. It also makes no sense that Romulans needed help to evacuate anyone.
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fdb7ba No.32829
>>32826
I'm actually interested in the destruction of Romulus, it means a shift in the power balance, while I will not be watching this new series, I want to see what happens to all that Romulan territory, and if it will spark any conflicts.
Also, is this Picard series taking place in the normal timeline, or the Jew Jew timeline?
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eba9ef No.32830
>>32829
"Prime timeline" which is it's whole own can of worms. You're meant to think of it as the original timeline though.
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fdb7ba No.32831
>>32830
So is it the timeline of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT?
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c02016 No.32832
>>32829
>the destruction of Romulus, it means a shift in the power balance
I know it's the homeworld but isn't it just one planet compared to the rest of the Romulan Star Empire.
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fa22d6 No.32833
>>32831
>Canon = TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, Films. Effectively dead due to corporate fuckery.
>Prime = All of the above, re-interpreted under the current CBS "alternate" Star Trek license. STD and Picard are here.
>Kelvin = Abrams movies, also produced under an alternate license. Sub-set of the "Prime" timeline.
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0e3ae7 No.32834
>>32829
Should have some ultra conservative Romulan warlords taking over.
>>32832
An anon I remember ranted about this on /vg/ that losing one's homeworld does not mean your fucking navy disappears.
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c440cc No.32853
>>32833
Is this canon/Prime distinction actually true as to storytelling, or just an extrapolation by over-popular YouTube cunts high off their own view counts?
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fa22d6 No.32854
>>32853
In terms of storytelling, technically no. The distinction has more to do with merchandising rights.
However, considering STD is a flaming shit pile of canon contradictions and is stylistically and thematically divorced from the previous Trek properties, I'd say the distinction is there in the storytelling as well.
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8604e3 No.32865
>>32819
I mean that those things will never be explored because resolving stories is less fun than starting new ones.
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6c53b4 No.32868
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>>32833
Some of the characters are coming back though. Picard will return with 7 of 9 and Data. Once they figure out the fans are smarter than they give us credit. They will start fixing our trek up the way we want it.
https://youtu.be/tEMC2AnFN_k
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1194cf No.32873
>>32813
>This would actually have been a fine opportunity >to wrap an actual dog in green spandex and CGI >in a breed of dog that is like nothing we've ever >seen before, over its movements.
now that would be interesting! Hell they could make a 400lbs Mastiff, none of the joint issues and growth issues of current giant breeds.Or something that looks vaguely familiar just a little bit alien, maybe slit pupils and tusks or something. Something creative not just slap in modern French breed. (Although traditionally many vineyards did and do keep big molosser type breeds to deter grape thieves and control wild boars. In TNG times he could just have a selective force field to keep out boars and strangers though.
I guess the Dogue de Bordeaux is already popular enough for wanna be thugs and to cross into fighting dogs… It would have been nice for the Picardy/Picardy blue spaniel to be featured as it is endangered a breed that deserves to survive. Plus… the name. His family could have been breeding them for like 500 years as a link to their past etc., Etc. (There's a Berger Picard as well)
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09a1ff No.32875
>>32788
>demand that Data be killed because he's aging out of the character
>invalidate this by setting up a resurrection with B4
>invalidate that by killing the franchise
>then return to play the character anyway
>aaaaand it looks like shit
As for the dog, it should have been an exotic animal instead.
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c02016 No.32878
>>32875
>As for the dog, it should have been an exotic animal instead.
A targ, given by Worf.
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eba9ef No.32882
>>32865
All I'm saying is enough pieces are there that they could make something decent, not that I trust them to do that in any way.
Discovery was flawed even at a conceptual level.
>lol. Our protagonist is Spock's secret black sister who's better than everyone, and we're focusing on a war with Klingons who are nothing like Klingons.
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eba9ef No.32883
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909293 No.32888
>>32875
>it should have been an exotic animal instead
It's too bad that it was never established that Picard might keep exotic animals in the past.
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214dc0 No.32901
I see they upgraded the borg cubes to blue LEDs.
I had a small hope this wouldn't be terrible, I guess because I have a soft spot for Picard but this is going to be the same generic SciFi shit with the obligatory "REMEMBER THIS FOLKS?!?" nostalgia shoe-in. All-new STD tanked and they probably thought "shit this isn't working, we need to bring back the old characters, that'll bring the shekels". Obviously no old star trek episode was ever watched by a writer.
The saddest thing about this is that I was genuinely surprised the stronk womyn main character (let's not kid ourselves here, she will be) is not a peeohhceee but devilishly white. Somebody's gonna obviously lose some good boy points about this wrongthink.
Also lol at the faggy soy manlets, jesus.
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a93abe No.32902
>>32539
>Data's android daughter
>various soyboy nobodies in the supporting cast
>vulcans are now faggy space elves
>Seven of Nine for no reason at all
wew
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3dd2e0 No.32904
>>32591
The most useless thing on earth is a Jewish writer who focuses on homosexuality and divorce.
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fcc76f No.32914
>>32904
No, the most useless thing on earth is the person that consumes the media of a jewish writer who focuses on homosexuality and divorce.
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a4e769 No.32939
>>32875
How come nobody ever thinks about the Darth Vader approach? Cast a cheap, no-name younger actor as Data (make up some technobabble bullshit reason as to why he looks slightly different in the face, and then have Spiner dub over his lines. A person can do voice-acting work until they're basically dead.
>>32902
>vulcans are now faggy space elves
>implying they weren't always
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eba9ef No.32946
>>32939
I think that kind of Frankensteining is kind of uncanny in a character driven show. Darth Vader is one thing. He's a guy in a mask who's supposed to look scary. If we're bringing Data back at all, I'd rather have Brent Spiner looking old, than some uncanny valley shit.
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214dc0 No.32947
Data looks like he's storing nuts for winter. Well, Brent Spiner is in his 70s. (Yes, Data was in his 40s for the shows run, he just didn't look that old) Without some computer effects he'd be bound to look ridiculous in that makeup.
It shows how cheap the whole thing is, they just hope to pull viewers in with it, that's why these actors are there. Especially with Data it would be trivial to take some young actor and just claim that he got another body or something. Although it would've probably just been another homosexual soy manlet (which hollywood seems to consist of these days) and it would've probably been terrifying to see that. TNG/DS9/etc. were quite a big part of my teenage years and it's really sad to see that zoomers get this shit instead, but they're probably too busy playing fortnite and sucking each other off anyways. The golden age of the west is ending, hence this never-ending, self referential nostalgia
Patrick Steward looks and sounds really old and while people kept saying all these years "he never aged" it's quite obvious now that he did. He just seems.. frail. Even Shatner comes across better. (Seriously, watch some recent interview with him, he's as sharp and well-spoken as ever. Dude is almost 90 and does not look and act like it)
What we'd really need for a good space opera is a completely new franchise with new people and new stories but it's not gonna happen in the current climate. Instead we will get to see Spocks cousin twice removed fleshing out some stupid background story about some random utterance in TOS/TNG/whatever.
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e3359d No.32948
>>32947
Honestly with data they could just claim he was trying to experience the ageing process like a normal human. Done. Obviously if it's B4 that's a little bit harder to work in.
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a4e769 No.32967
>>32947
>Even Shatner comes across better … Dude is almost 90 and does not look and act like it
Some people are like that. Instead of slowly running down in their 70's and 80's and then fading into death, they're spry and active into their 90's and then one day just drop dead with zero warning.
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7a7a50 No.32971
>>32948
Like when pre Nemesis future he became a skunk?
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c52857 No.32975
>>32901
>The saddest thing about this is that I was genuinely surprised the stronk womyn main character (let's not kid ourselves here, she will be) is not a peeohhceee but devilishly white. Somebody's gonna obviously lose some good boy points about this wrongthink.
I'm guessing it's actually Picard's daughter so the series title will still make sense after PS kicks the bucket
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a02910 No.32976
>>32975
It will be Picard and Wesleys long lost love child.
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a4e769 No.32995
>>32975
>Implying the series will go on for long enough for him to actually die
>Implying it'll last more than a season
>Implying TV shows even do seasons anymore instead of just ordering twelve episodes and then seeing how things go
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9064e6 No.32999
>>32995
>ordering twelve episodes and then seeing how things go
Isn't that what a season is?
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5f6b61 No.33021
>>32976
>Picard and Wesleys long lost love child.
What?
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b931d9 No.33026
>>32999
A season used to be twice that many episodes.
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edfd24 No.33029
>>33026
Only in Muttland. Elsewhere it's like 6 episodes a Season.
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a4e769 No.33051
>>32999
A season is more like 20+ episodes (most TNG seasons were 26). It was also typical for more than one season to be planned at first, with even poorly-performing shows getting at least a couple before being cancelled.
But more to the point, a season is meant to be a certain number of episodes that fill a roughly year-long set of TV timeslots, not counting summer months and a few weeks around Christmas. But that's not how these streaming services work. They just release all the episodes at once, and not nearly as many as would otherwise be. I think Stranger Things' last "season" was just eight episodes. It's entirely probable, should this series not be very popular, for it to last only one "season" and be less than ten episodes.
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049bac No.33056
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wow dropped harder than me at birth
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9064e6 No.33064
>>33026
That used to be the convention, yes, but a season wasn't a set number of episodes. Season 1 of Voyager was only 12 episodes long.
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6dc79c No.33068
>>33021
wesley is a beautiful transboy. check your privilege bigot.
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1b96af No.33116
They’re bringing him back just long enough to say he’s gay.
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174e53 No.33136
Why the fuck not in US? Picard is my fave :(
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6c53b4 No.33215
>>32868
He was right.
During the CBS All Access executive session, it was confirmed that Star Trek: Picard will premiere in the first quarter of 2020. As for the third season of Discovery, CBS President and COO of CBS Interactive Marc DeBevoise said it will premiere “later” in 2020.
https://trekmovie.com/2019/08/03/cbs-execs-talk-coordinating-discovery-and-picard-and-limitless-future-of-star-trek/
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