3da09c No.16689629 [Last 50 Posts]
Welcome to UK Q Research
This is where UK Anons research the UK's role in the Great Awakening and expose the evil we find on our shores. The UK Anons here are dedicated and meticulous researchers and are often over the target, because of this the UK breads have been visited by Q and we are also often under heavy bombardment from shills. If you are new here take some time to lurk to understand the board and then feel free to participate, if anyone attacks you they are likely paid shills who try to deter you from posting - ignore them.
Topics of particular interest to the UK Anons that you may find posted here are: Research into the UK Pics Q posted, Spygate drama, Brexit issues, Covid and vaxx news and data and any relevant news articles from the Fake and Real news outlets.
Our population is largely still asleep and sleepwalking to the precipice, we need to wake as many as possible and be prepared for a mass awakening, because as we know, NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING. NOTHING.
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>>2322789, >>2323031 How To Quickly Spot A Clown
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https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/11709084.html#11953143
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3da09c No.16689666
Notables are NOT Endorsements
#46
>>16668639, >>16670385 St Thomas' Hospital East Wing project, London
>>16669651 Streetview pics looking South over Lambeth Bridge
>>16669693, >>16669708, >>16669728 Pics taken on the Thames showing Albert Embankment
>>16669791, >>16669800, >>16669827, >>16669858 The Corniche, 21 Albert Embankment, London, SE1 7TJ
>>16669916 SV-Aug-2013-P Albert Embankment. Same date as riverwall sign pic. Same date as yellow bike pic at CH
>>16670071, >>16670105, >>16670153, >>16670221 Crowne Plaza Hotel, Albert Embankment
>>16670250 Example of crane boom period AFTER winter 2013/2014
>>16670268, >>16670286, >>16670365 ROT1 Q pic view, building of interest in the distance beyond trees
>>16670310, >>16670322 Links to SV-SEP-2012-P and SV-JUN-2014-P, Albert Embankment
>>16670376 SV-AUG-2013-P Crane activity. 3 Cranes present. What are the chances that these cranes were tken down before the winter 2013/2014 Q pics?
>>16670377, >>16670473, >>16670542 Building with coloured floodlights next to Park Plaza County Hall London eliminated
>>16670413 More cranes above Albert Embankment
>>16670426 Comparison pics from Hungerford Bridge: July 2014 (day) and ROT1 (night)
>>16670513 Caps frp, vid showed how very dark the TATT was even when traffic was very heavy, as the recording heads down Albert Embankment it captured a full on view of the hotel's coloured lights
>>16670685, >>16671746, , >>16671830, >>16671975, , >>16672001, >>16676855 St. Thomas Hospital in the running?
>>16670612 From QR General: Boris Johnson's newly-appointed chancellor Nadhim Zahawi calls on the prime minister to resign. And UK Education Secretary Michelle Donelan, appointed 36 hours ago, resigns from government
>>16671774 Westminster pics 2017
#45
>>16423993 UK Notables now downloadable!
>>16426814 Two British soldiers sentenced to death in Donetsk
>>16433178 Majority of UK’s 366 monkeypox cases are in London, says health agency
>>16433225 Third Unaoil bribery offender launches London appeal against conviction
>>16433701 Ghislaine Maxwell will ask to be transferred to a British prison to serve the bulk of her sentence for child sex trafficking, The Mail on Sunday understands.
>>16435903 4 year Delta Julian Assange
>>16439413 NHS trust in England has spent over £50,000 awarding medals to itself
>>16440258 Excellent Neil Oliver video - Are we stupid?
>>16448129 Ex-police officer jailed in UK for posting memes of George Floyd in Whatsapp & Facebook group chats
>>16454986 Silent heart condition predicted to kill 40,000 Brits over next five years
>>16465455 2013 article about Lockerbie: Ex-FBI chief Robert Mueller says 'others will be charged'
>>16475130 Boris and Carrie Johnson Forced the Media to Memory Hole an Article About Their Latest Scandal
>>16497951 Anguish of young man who had sex organs removed on NHS
>>16498230 Two people charged with conspiracy offences linked to allegations of organ harvesting
>>16508140 Q's Latest Posts
>>16539038 Covid, Monkey Pox Bun
>>16539041 Embankment Bun
>>16539044 Piccadilly Bun
>>16539046 Red Buses Bun
>>16539056 Other bakers Notabes
>>16589996 ‘WE ARE ATTACKING PAKISTAN!’ – Hackers Take over Official British Army Twitter Account
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3da09c No.16689682
Baker message
Yet another spam attack by the Deep State minions, all other tactics having failed miserably.
The last bread had anons beginning the quest to identify the purple-lit building at the Albert Embankment in London. More pieces of the puzzle await in what has become an incredible dig. The spammers may return. Bakers will do another bread and anons of the UK will keep on digging.
Please post all of the following
ANYTHING Rothschild, Soros or Payseur, UK Media Bias, UK Media Q pieces (Good or bad), Evidence of corrupted and controlled persons in the UK or European public eye. Notable DEATHS, Notable RESIGNATIONS, All things ROYAL, MP's Doing Good and Bad things, Anything MI5/MI6/GCHQ related, Paedophile ring intel and of course SYMBOLISM wherever you see it We need to start keeping an eye out for Christopher Steele and what this cretin is up to. We also need some UK Planefags and Boatfags to keep an eye on the skies and water.
Useful Bakery Ingredients
Q Aggregator Sites:
Q Alerts (with desktop notifications) https://qalerts.pub/
Qanon.pub https://qanon.pub/
Qanon.news https://qanon.news/
Qposts online https://qposts.online/
Q Research sites:
https://q-resear.ch/
https://www.qproofs.com/
Telegram Channels
We The Media https://t.me/WeTheMedia
BakesCorp(highlighs of posts here by UKBaker)https://t.me/BakesCorp
Lin Wood https://t.me/linwoodspeakstruth
General Michael Flynn https://t.me/GenMichaelFlynn
General McInerney https://t.me/GeneralMcInerney
Karaken Wood https://t.me/RealKrakenWood
Jordan Sather https://t.me/jordansather
InevetableET https://t.me/InevitableET
CodeMonkeyZ https://t.me/CodeMonkeyZ
Jim Watkins https://t.me/jim_watkins
Alex Thomson https://t.me/EastApp
Alistair Williamshttps://t.me/alistairwilliams
The White Rose https://t.me/JoinTheWhiteRoas
Q Video Channels:
JoeM Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/50tnZ2hx6duU/ Rumble Not Yet
In Pursuit of Truth Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/Xe2ztraIRXRX/ Rumble Not Yet
SGT Report Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/nLPcg68RnP97/ Rumble https://rumble.com/c/c-297721
And We Know Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/1uDxpDogKMs9/ Rumble https://rumble.com/c/AndWeKnow
Praying Medic Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/FJLej1ou6JVe/ Rumble https://rumble.com/c/PrayingMedic
JustInformedTalk Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/zWqrqKTLkhqW/ Rumble https://rumble.com/c/JustInformedTalk
Destroying the Illusion Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/XyIkC2xqtFHY/ Rumble https://rumble.com/c/c-295521
X22 Report Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/n78PbEkvWx2g/ Rumble https://rumble.com/c/X22Report
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3da09c No.16689693
Other Dedicated Research Threads
>>16407560 Clockwork Qrange #16
>>>/warroom/ Warroom Operations
>>>/midnightriders/ Midnight Riders board
>>>/qrb/ QRB (Alternative to main QRB)
>>>/deepdigs/ Deep Digs
>>>/qrb/13005 Planefagging 101 Q&A
>>>/qrb/42185 Boatfagging Q&A
International Q Research Threads
To be Updated
Useful Links
Wayback Machine for old archived websites https://web.archive.org
Tin Eye to find original posting date and source of pics https://tineye.com/
Free Translator https://www.collinsdictionary.com/translator
Banned YouTube Channels Archive https://www.altcensored.com/channel/deleted
National Archives Discovery https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
Westminster Planning Applications https://idoxpa.westminster.gov.uk/online-applications/
Absolute Proof - Election Fraud documentary https://rumble.com/vdkz6j-absolute-proof-with-mike-lindell.html
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3da09c No.16689704
UK Pics Background and SitRep
Embankment Pictures
On February 16th 2018 Q posted a picture from a London Traffic Cam by Embankment Staion [https://qalerts.pub/?n=784], the image was of London traffic and Big Ben. The File Name of the picture was NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847.png. 9 minutes later Q posted a stringer warning to the UK of a possible car attack.
3 Months later on May 20th 2018 Q posted a series of 3 pictures [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1423] from the same traffic camera which was rotated through 3 positions. Q was telling us this camera has a field of view from the Corinthia hotel and up the Victoria Embankment towards Parliament.
2 months later on the 27th of July 2018 Q reposted one of the previous pictures with people circled [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1720], this was tentatively identified as Lisa Page, lover of disgraced traitor and FBI goon Peter Strzok.
Q revists the theme again on February the 18th 2019 when Q posts 3 more pictures of the Corinthia hotel from the same camera [https://qalerts.pub/?n=2797] indicating that the couple may have been staying there.
17th May 2018 Pictures
On the 17th of May Q posted a series of pictures from two locations in London and several locations in China, there is likely a connection between the two. An anon posted a theory which Q quoted indicating that the theory was on the right lines. The China pics were of pallets of boxed technology (possibly secure satellite phones that operate on a Chinese satellite), the Foxconn factory and an airport with a Chinese plane at a gate. The theory suggested that China were supplying secure communication devices to the cabal so that they could communicate without sigint (Signals Intercept) by the NSA. The London connection is through Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the lovers were secretly in London (perhaps arriving by boat on the Thames to avoid official record of the visit) and being surveilled by the Q team the whole time. The theory stated they were either collecting or distributing these communication devices for other cabal members, Q also posted a picture from the plane and an Owl and the Space Shuttle.
Piccadilly Circus Pictures https://qalerts.pub/?n=1405
In post 1405, which is the first of the 17th of May series, Q posted a picture of a red London Routemaster bus, Q also posted a Winter Wonderland picture of 2 peoples legs, The Red Bus picture was titled Fsurv_londonps1.png, Presumably someone in the picture is of interest, its likely this picture was posted to inform the person who is being surveilled that they were being watched. The following post [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1406] contained two more pictures from Piccadilly circus. The picture is of a road sign and the Cool Britannia giftshop. The Cool Britannia giftshop has similar archways to that of the temple on Epstein Island and the Aleppo Bathhouse Hammam Yalbugha.
Winter Wonderland Pictures
Q posted the first Winter Wonderland picture of 2 peoples legs on the plastic flooring at Winter Wonderland, A second picture of the Wilde Maus Roller-coaster was posted about a month later [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1456]
Black Box
The Black Box Pic was posted by Q on the 27th Of July 2018 [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1725] in Reply to the WARNING Stay alert post back in February 2018.
Anons found the black box stands alongside bus shelter 'S' by Westminster Abbey in London. Its precise location is outside No 4 Victoria street. No 4 Victoria Street used to have a branch of the corrupt HSBC bank and Anons found out it is the home of the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC House). Other tenants of the building seem to have links to Iran. The building across the street from the black box is the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy.
The black box is about a 11 minute walk from Thames House, the home of the Security Service [MI5] and a 23 minute walk from the Secret Intelligence Service [MI6]. Q's Picture of the box featured a Qanon sticker with a White Rabbit, the text said "The Storm is Coming". Subsequent pictures of the box always shows that lots of stickers have been put on the box, it seems to be a popular "Slap Tagging" location but Anons think this could be a form of discreet communication either by White Hats or Black Hats. A recent visit to the box by an anon shows the box in desperate need of repainting because it has been constantly scrubbed clean by street cleaners indicating a massive amount of stickers has been put on the box in the last 2 years.
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3da09c No.16689720
HOW TO FILTER OUT NUISANCE SHILLS AND SPAMMERS
Shills and spammers [like Jon James Pratt] clutter up the bread, you can easily filter them out so that they disappear, you may have to do this a few times, but it is well worth it.
Follow these simple instructions:
Click on the small triangle next to the posters name - Add Filter - ID
DONE!
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3da09c No.16689751
Dough
https://controlc.com/314bb592
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3da09c No.16689860
ONE OF THE COMPANIES INVOLVED IN THE SPAM ATTACK IS NAMED "AUTOMATTIC" (TWO T'S) AND HAS SEVERAL OFFICES, THE ONE IDENTIFIED ATTACKING IP IS FROM THE OFFICE IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA.
Remember that name if choosing an internet services company in the future. Automattic
PASS THE WORD, THIS COMPANY THAT WORKS WITH WORDPRESS PLAYS DIRTY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED TRICKS
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3da09c No.16695651
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. I'm thinking our purple building is this luxury place "The Dumont" on Albert Embankment.
The video from time 1:34 onward makes it appear to me the building sticks out further than its neighbours and looks like a good match for the rough bearing we have
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3da09c No.16695655
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3da09c No.16695851
Here we go. A purple building sitting in Vauxhall next to (just to North of) MI6 Headquarters.
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6f8299 No.16696244
Park Plaza Riverbank Hotel
18 Albert Embankment,
London SE1 7TJ, United Kingdom
See reverse view that matches up with Q cam position/s on bridge.
https://www.parkplazariverbank.com/
Marked up cap from 2012 vid that shows relative location of the hotel vis-a-vis Millibank, Big Ben, The Eye, and Lambeth/Westminster bridges.
The Reverse view very nearly seals the match, I think. But perhaps other candidates will have a much better way to confirm via reverse view.
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6f8299 No.16696248
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16696244
1-AUG-2012-P vid of the two bridgtes over Thames, camera vantage The Eye. Triangulate with Q camera position. Matches-up with the reverse view from hotel room facing toward Westminster Palace and Hungerford Bridge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrFKmrkOSc4
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6f8299 No.16696255
Bakes please correct for next bread.
>>16669791 (You), >>16669800 (You), >>16669827 (You), >>16669858 (You) View of 18 Albert Embankment, River Park Hotel (background) and Crowne Plaza Hotel (foreground)
These SV images show the two hotels in the context of changes made 2012-2014, including the removal of large buildings nearby. These images can be compared with the 22-DEC-2013-P photo of the view from Hungerford Bridge as per last bread.
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6f8299 No.16696262
>>16696255
Unfortunately, last bread was hampered with the attacks. The images posted were self-explanatory but prolly needed discussion to clarify significance.
18 Albert Embankment is prime candidate and very nearly confirmed as the Purple or Pink building captured in Q pics. There may be other candidates so discussion will ensue.
The approximate location of the target building is southbank, i.e. Albert Embankment, across from Millibank Tower - or in that area of River Thames.
Is it between Westminster and Lambeth bridgtes or beyond Lambeth bridge?
Can it be cleanly triangulated with known landmarks and co-ordinates?
Example, 18 Albert Embankment. See previous bread which includes views from roads, the river, and google earth aerial view. In this bread see the reverse view from hotel room facing toward the Q camera position/s. Also see previous bread for caps from vid showing the brightly lit facade of the hotel which roughly follows the purple/pink shades in various open sauce pics. The vid shows blue/purple from distance and from very close-up.
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6f8299 No.16696278
>>16695851
Interdasting candidate.
Could you attempt a markup to show the edges viewable in the Q pics, such as ROT 1?
Here's a rough illustration. Not to be taken as well-considered, just to illustrate.
In one of the pics you posted, the pink building at 18 Albert Embankment was captured. Bend in shoreline places that location about centre in ROT 1, I think, as per the GE aerial view in last bread and reverse view in tihis bread.
Would be interdasting to do similar views and analysis. The comparisons might be made.
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a104bc No.16696313
>>16689860
192 subnet addresses are internal, you also screenshot your own ip!
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6f8299 No.16696348
>>16695651
See >>16669651 PB
For 29 Albert Embankment may eed images that depict 2012-2014 period for comparison, because that address was demolished and then rebuilt.
1. Purple during that period?
2. As viewed from the approximate vantage of Q-cam and/or The Eye.
3. Before demolition started.
4. Good match for the 22-DEC-2013-T pic.
5. Good match for the 24London pic.
6. Good match for ROT 1 and EMB pics.
7. Good match reverse view ca 2012-2014
The promo vid posted earlier is of the modern Dumont building that was built on same site. Good views. Reverse excellent match as per reverse view of Q cam.
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6f8299 No.16696361
>>16696348
The building that would become The Dumont remained standing 2012-2014.
However, does not match the location of the purple/ pink building in photo take 22-DEC-2013-T. And in that photo, at night, the Dumont area was not lit colourfully.
Need moar to establish plausibility of this building as good match for Q pic?
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6f8299 No.16696364
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6f8299 No.16696367
>>16696348
Gud reverse view from The Dumont.
Not how very near this angle places the Riverbank Plaza, too. Both buildings appear to provide noice locations re the pink or purple coloured building in Q pics.
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6f8299 No.16696371
>>16696364
GE earial views of the Albert Embankment in vicinity of the site of The Dumont.
2013-2017
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6f8299 No.16696377
>>16696371
GE-06-2019
The area of much crane activity seems mostly filled-in by 2019. Compare with 22DEC-2013-T.
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6f8299 No.16696407
>>16696278
Ref points.
Note the pink coloured building at 18 Albert Embankment. And the gap between it and the next buildings, 22-29 Albert Embankment. Then identify the other three buildings pointed at in this marked up pic. Compare with 22-DEC-2013-P, for example. Or with the SV views from the river in AUG-2013. GooMAPS has some gud views of this area, too.
This is the area of increased crane activity just around the time of the Q pics in winter of 2013/2014. That activity continued for several years more.
If the 22-29 Albert Embankment area is location of candidate for pink/ purple building, it was due for some cranes to appear in winter of 2013-2014. Lack of them in the 22-DEC-2013-P pic still matches Q in ROT1 for example.
Not sure that farther along toward SIS HQ would have been within frame of Q pics but maybe just barely. However, that would mean not in positoin of the pink/ purple lights?
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6f8299 No.16696414
>>16696407
SV images for 2012, 2013, 2019.
Reference.
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6f8299 No.16696415
SV-AUG-2013 - on Thames toward Albert Embankment
Reference
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6f8299 No.16696455
>>16696407
The cranes in 22-DEC-2013-T are lit up on top. This does not match Q pics, ROT 1, for example. But the crane acitivity was already started and would increase during next few years.
Here's another possible candidate we cold vet. Penninsula Heights (apartment building) at 93 Embankment in vicinity of the crane activity that appeared in 2013-2014 winter.
This building has a tinted glass facade. Haven't seen it lit up but it has a sort of blocked shape that, if lit up, might match up with the pink/ purple building lights in ROT1.
Assuming can find evidence of it being lit up around the target time interval, here is a river view, a street view, and a reverse view. And a GE aerial view from about the angle of the Q camera near the Hungerford Bridge.
Gud location, it would seem. Facade facing the Q cam quite directly. But was this apartment building ever lit up colourfully?
Of course, if it was the pink/ purple lit area in the Q pics, then, THAT would provide pictorial evidence of it having been so lit. However, gonna need moar than that so we have a martch up on that basis.
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6f8299 No.16696461
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6f8299 No.16696483
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6f8299 No.16696534
>>16696483 …
GE-07-2013-T (3D buildings overlayed)
Candidates? for the pink/ purple lit building in Q-pics, such as ROT 1 Q1423.
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6f8299 No.16696573
>>16696534
Additional candidates for pink/ purple lit building?
Need some evidence of being lit colourfully.
Position?
Reverse view?
Triangulated with landmarks?
Fairly reasonable to include provided have evidence of colours. Position is plausible for each of these additional buildings.
But not gud matches for 22-DEC-2013-T which shows 18 Albert Embankment as the primary suspect. The lack of cranes lit in the Q pic could raise the prospects of one of these two additional buildings, along with 93 Albert Embankment (Penninsula Hieghts, or PH).
What say you, Anons?
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6f8299 No.16696587
>>16696573
The vid of a timelapse that takes route to 18 Albert Embankment also shows that location lit up colourfully - a few months after the Q pic time interval. But no cranes lit - of course it was recorded on a dashcam so not looking upward much. The caps from that vid were posted in PB.
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6f8299 No.16696609
>>16696587
Should not lose sight of the fact that most of the candidates for the pink/purple coloured building also reinforce the pre-2015-2016 conclusion UK Anons are working with for dating the Q pics.
If it turns out that the target bulding is 18 Albert Embankment, then 22-DEC-2013 remains a stake in the ground right in the middle of Christmas Week of that winter.
I think that address is coloured in 24London, also. So far none of that helps to narrow the Q pic time interval for EMB pics, but if this building's colours varied, then, we might have a means to do that narrowing.
For me the 22-DEC-2013-T is significant because of this marker but also because the same photographer took pics on that same date of other areas coverred in Q's pics, including the CH (captured yellow bike and other markers) and the riverbank wall adboard (only open sauce matching Q on that marker). The set bangs in the stake really well.
But if there are other canddiates that can not be eliminated for this pink/ purple lit building, then, the process might lead to something else that narrows the time interval better for our digz.
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6f8299 No.16696831
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Was thinking about elevated night time views of the Embankments and figured could re-visit the NYE recordings of 31-DEC-2013-T. This recording includes the pre-show.
1. Confirmation of the rain, natch.
Mark 4:42
https://youtu.be/2KCKIPeHK-I?t=282
2. Interesting choice of interviewees in the crowd all improvised, certainly. Kek. Curious.
Mark 5:06
https://youtu.be/2KCKIPeHK-I?t=306
In this U-Toobs the fireworks were simulated. When I watch first time thought, How'd they do that full blackout? Kek.
3. Returned to 'live action'.
Mark 18:12
https://youtu.be/2KCKIPeHK-I?t=1094
So nuthin to add from that recording. But the BBC did the big show and there were a few views that Anons might find interdasting and maybe spot a few things, IDK.
Moar…
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6f8299 No.16696840
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16696831
NYE 31-DEC-2013-T
https://youtu.be/5Jp9_sgJcN0
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6f8299 No.16696954
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6f8299 No.16696965
>>16696840
View from NZ House balcony, top floor. See Northumberland Ave and Traf Square.
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6f8299 No.16697024
>>16696840
Stock photos re Pink/ Purpse coloured building.
2010
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-london-united-kingdom-view-from-lambeth-bridge-over-the-thames-53462584.html?imageid=5B79D888-0495-4CBF-8DFD-89D48B0F34FA&p=174741&pn=3&searchId=f98a64120ca63d475dda457dc1bfde2c&searchtype=0
2019
https://www.alamy.com/new-office-block-and-apartment-building-skyscrapers-are-lit-up-at-night-among-construction-cranes-on-the-skyline-of-the-vauxhall-and-nine-elms-regener-image333310623.html?imageid=AACDB3F9-08FF-4E0C-93EA-607279E7DF57&p=300765&pn=3&searchId=f98a64120ca63d475dda457dc1bfde2c&searchtype=0
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6f8299 No.16697063
>>16696840
Stock photos
2018
https://www.alamy.com/london-england-uk-september-10-2018-the-sun-sets-behind-the-river-thames-and-lambeth-bridge-with-the-modern-riverside-skyline-of-office-blocks-image219397198.html?imageid=429BD824-BA53-49C4-902E-719338EFB829&p=300765&pn=1&searchId=d10a1e939770d191962395238d180b7f&searchtype=0
2018 Dusk
https://www.alamy.com/london-england-uk-september-10-2018-the-sun-sets-behind-the-river-thames-and-lambeth-bridge-with-the-modern-riverside-skyline-of-office-blocks-image219397370.html?imageid=614FF8C3-14AB-47B2-805B-844BB55F45F4&p=300765&pn=1&searchId=d10a1e939770d191962395238d180b7f&searchtype=0
2918 sunset
https://www.alamy.com/london-england-uk-september-10-2018-the-sun-sets-behind-the-river-thames-and-lambeth-bridge-with-the-modern-riverside-skyline-of-office-blocks-image219397145.html?imageid=2C030B2B-52CA-4DD4-A203-17DDCCCF6745&p=300765&pn=1&searchId=d10a1e939770d191962395238d180b7f&searchtype=0
Jan 2018 night
https://www.alamy.com/9-albert-embankment-l-tamesis-dock-floating-pub-park-plaza-hotel-c-and-corniche-apartment-block-r-with-river-thames-in-foreground-london-uk-image233186220.html?imageid=9AC818EC-31B8-4380-87F7-65A6EE7C16F6&p=577708&pn=2&searchId=912ef35f9394cc0cd5d83e4182f8e728&searchtype=0
2019 night
https://www.alamy.com/9-albert-embankment-l-tamesis-dock-floating-pub-park-plaza-hotel-c-and-corniche-apartment-block-r-with-river-thames-in-foreground-london-uk-image233186220.html?imageid=9AC818EC-31B8-4380-87F7-65A6EE7C16F6&p=577708&pn=2&searchId=912ef35f9394cc0cd5d83e4182f8e728&searchtype=0
2015 cranes
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-river-thames-at-westminster-bridge-millbank-tower-st-george-towers-78974110.html?imageid=EAFFD37E-C7AB-4AA7-B6DC-B3988EF1D551&p=213191&pn=1&searchId=d10a1e939770d191962395238d180b7f&searchtype=0
REFERENCE Pics
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6f8299 No.16697224
>>16697063 .
Blue on building beyond Penn Heights so prolly not in best position. But blue flood lights and almost right shape. Would need to be higher up building to more closely match Q pics. But more evidence of coloured lighting there.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ledgr/8490789154/
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6f8299 No.16697268
>>16697224
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ledgr/8490789154/
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3da09c No.16698877
>>16696573
I think that building between Peninsular Heights apartments and MI headquarters is the one. As best I can find the place is called Camelford House. Between it and Peninsular Heights apartments is Tintagel House, formerly Met Police HQ
In >>1669581 the first pic shows the purple lighting The second one by Jason Hawkes shows purple again but the Dumont and Corniche buildings are not there. The third pic from CanStock is what bugs me. Enlarged the left side of Peninsular Heights has coloured lights on at least seven of the floors
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3da09c No.16699112
>>16698877 (me)
Camelford House. It get address of 87-90 and then simply 89 Albert Embankment. Like the first two pics in >>16695851 lower floors are floodlit purple
Here is daytime view looking up the Thames towards our camera location at Hungerford Bridge from the roof, buildings own website gallery
https://camelfordhouse.com/gallery/
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9c34b5 No.16700399
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9c34b5 No.16700404
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9c34b5 No.16700407
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a5774f No.16702050
>>16696348
I think this post’s comparison is the most illustrative. The 22DEC2013 pic is the stake in the ground most contemporaneous with the EMB pics, and having the pink/perple phenomonon it convinces me we are looking at the same phenomenon. Nao, looking at the 2012 and 2014 SV images, it looks like the 22DEC pic is much more foreshortened but can still be used with that in mind to place the building not far beyond Lambeth Bridge. I think you have found it.
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a5774f No.16702166
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a5774f No.16702317
>>16702166
To be more precise, I made a red arrow to point to the building I think is our perple bldg. based on Anon’s very gud comparison with SV images.
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a5774f No.16702568
>>16702317
On reconsideration of a square opening feature on a building, it may be partially iluminated in its upper left by internal lighting. See pic. This would change my nomination for best perple building match to the building to which a perple arrow is pointed.
Nao, which one is that?
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3da09c No.16702773
>>16697268
That is just plain weird. I see St George Tower and that certainly looks like the almost turrets of the MI6 HQ building. Since Camelford house we have pics of, but can only prove the purple floodlights on the South-facing side is this the purple floods of Camelford House being reflected by that green glass weirdness of MI6?
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3da09c No.16703015
Before I start trying to dig up tourist videos:
How many cranes are we trying to place?
I'm fine with the construction on the Corniche and the Dumont not going on in Winter 2013/2014 when we think the Q Embankment pics and the Lisa MI6 video is taken…I think. Are there more cranes showing in the LISA MI6? Not just Albert Embankment, but anything at or near the Millbank or Westminster Palace? UK #46 there's >>16668639, >>16670385 St Thomas' Hospital East Wing project, London and we may have a crane at St. George tower during that time. Now the part that bugs me: In the US cranes that tall must be lighted at night, FAA Regulations and such. The last pic via CanStock in >>16695851 at first appears to be an unlighted crane next to the St. George. When I enlarged it, the crane appears to be turned just enough to obscure a white light at the "knuckle" where the topmost boom connects
The good part about knowing the names of these buildings is it should be easier to look for announcements of construction starting or ending.
Did the Crowne Plaza Hotel have those pink lights in Winter 2013/2014?
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a5774f No.16703360
>>16703015
>Did the Crowne Plaza Hotel have those pink lights in Winter 2013/2014?
Seems a toss up between CROWN PLAZA and PARK PLAZA to me.
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6f8299 No.16703972
>>16699112
>daytime view looking up the Thames towards our camera location at Hungerford
Very noice.
Each candidate's reverse view seems gud match. Gonna need moar, as always.
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6f8299 No.16704118
>>16702568
>square opening feature
That might be the front or short side of the 3-sided facade of 18 Albert Embankment. The shae of the building next door plus the treecover street level look like a match in these SV close-ups.
Whatdoyathink?
>16703360
>CROWN PLAZA and PARK PLAZA
Based on 22-DEC-2013-T, yes. And that open sauce matches up well with 24London.
The pink v purple does complicate things somewhate, based on evidence gathered so far.
Crowne Plaza has a pink motif - then and today. But not much in the way of obvious lighting to project that colour so brightly. but they could have used floodlights at times.
Maybe Anons could scour the ground level for possible floodies? Got no night shots with Crowne illuminated in this way.
Riverbank Plaza (which is the building that Anon might have meant re Park Plaza) at 18 Albert has been pohographed as blue and as pink. So that akes purple a sort of in-between hue that might have been captured depending on conditions and camera settings.
Both buildings had very reflective facades. Gonna say, for now, that Riverbank is the most plusible. But in the end, not sure it matters. Both buildings underwent significatn changes after the winter of 2013/2014 such that this pink/ purple lighting in the Q pics provides a reinforcement of the NOT AFTER bookend.
OK. Through this we have a location. Now for the cranes.
>How many cranes are we trying to place?
Scrutinizing the Q pic is one thing. That must be done. Doing the same with 22-DEC-2013-T must also be done.
That said,, we have signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics. In that series of Q pics we could produce both a count and map of locations/positons.
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6f8299 No.16704257
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6f8299 No.16704262
>>16704257
2011, Crowne and Riverbank hotels.
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6f8299 No.16704289
>>16704118
>>16704257
>That said,, we have signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics. In that series of Q pics we could produce both a count and map of locations/positons.
www.lonelyreload.com
2013_09_01_archive.html - First found on Dec 1, 2013http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TNR1coa-rJI/UkrThrrAaRI/AAAAAAAARrc/aSggOszbHc4/s1600/31%2BLondon%2BMadame%2BTussauds%2C%2BLondon%2BMetropolitan%2BUniversity%2C%2BPizza%2BPeeno%2C%2BEDF%2BEnergy%2BLondon%2BEye%2BExperiences%2BSheffield%2BHallam%2BUniversity%2Bstudent%2Btarc%2Bcollege%2Bfeelings.JPG
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6f8299 No.16704302
>>16704289
The cranes were unlit during the NYE fireworks. The brightly lit buildings, including the pink/ purple one, were subdued or partially lit and dimly at that, during that 31-DEC-2013 event.
Need night views of the same River scene during DEC 2013, but could also use earlier/later sauces of night time views of these cranes.
IF these were generally unlit at night, then, that would reconcile with the Q pics. On the other hand, if the Q pics captured cranes, lite dimly or not at all, then, that would do the trick, also.
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6f8299 No.16704327
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6f8299 No.16704415
>>16704327
22-DEC-2013-T
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816142
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6f8299 No.16704460
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6f8299 No.16704568
Happenstance as searching for moar cranes, came across this image with two details that distinguish the scene from the Q-pics re CH.
1. Folded bollard on island.
2. Orange traffic cone at kerb front of CH.
3. Yellow bike in place is in all 4 Q pics of CH..
ROT 3, CH 1, CH 2 appear to show the yellow bike in SAME orientation and position. Not so sure about CH 3 (but significantly diff camera vantge).
Compare with 22-DEC-2013-T: very nearly identical.
Now, are these actually identical, IDK, but from what is visible can not discern difference. Perhaps other Anons have better eye?
The date, 22-DEC-2013, being a Sunday, may carry significance. Weather? Tidal? Lunar?
Sorry if this distracts from dig on cranes. Serendipity.
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6f8299 No.16704672
08-DEC-2012-T
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3377862
CH captured in 2012 (note the bike hire stall along the kerb) during the winter prior to the Q pics. Camera vantage approsimated that of CH 1.
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6f8299 No.16704822
>>16704568
>>16704672
Is the following observs caused by Magic Eye, frens?
There are two [2] pics of the Yellow bike taken by same photographer on 22-DEC-2013. Both show one wheel IN FRONT of a post. That is to say, the bike's wheel leans on the camera side of the post.
But the Q pics show the wheel BEHIND that same post. - with the exception of CH 3.
Here are close-ups of the two pics of 22-DEC-2013-T.
And close-ups of CH 2 and CH 3 for comparison.
All of the CH pics provide a view of both the Yellow Bike and the pedestrian island on which there might have been a collapsed or folded bollard. Take a closer look on that island. Compare with the stock photo of 2-MAR-2014-T in which the island surface looks a lot 'cleaner' than in the Q pics.
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6f8299 No.16704844
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6f8299 No.16704865
>>16704822
Do Anons see the diff between the Yellow Bike's position against that post? Does this distinguish CH 3 from the other Q pics?
AND do Anons see a folded or collapsed bollard, or similar object, laying on the pedestrian island in those Q pics?
Compare with the 22-DEC-2013-T pics, please. Compare with the stock photo of 02-MAR-2014.
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6f8299 No.16704936
>>16704568
Leaving this image from SV-May-2012 showing the pedestrian island.
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6f8299 No.16705019
>>16704460
>>16704327
At least three [3] cranes lit in night pic of 28-SEP-2013-T.
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6f8299 No.16705021
>>16705019
Sauce for night pic 28-SEP-2013-T
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3781544
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6f8299 No.16705073
>>16704844
>>16704822
Yeh, that Yellow Bike has been captured in SV images parked with one wheel in front of the post. See pic SV-MAY-2014-P.
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a5774f No.16705204
>>16704822
Sorry my eyes unable to make out CH3. Can you show us by outlining or something? Is this possibly another feature that confirms the wheelie bins being different? That was also CH3 right? So another evening perhaps? You know, the bin thing I could attrib to just later in the evening. The bike wheel thing though… I don’t see this night worker going out in the wee hours for a lunch break. Makes me lean towards him leaving his bike alone for his entire shift, which makes me think diff evening. If of course the CH3 pic is different.
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8fc6d9 No.16707748
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e2ef5f No.16708365
YOU WILL EAT ZE FUCKING BUGS!!!
(Repost from late in the bread)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/worlds-largest-cricket-processing-plant-coming-to-london-1.5655813
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3da09c No.16716355
SMK 732F 1967 AEC Routemaster, body Park Royal H40/32R
London Transort RML2732
Acquired Nov 2013 Ex Dreadnought Coaches, Alnwick
Current Owner: Ensign Bus Company, Purfleet (in 2014)
Summary of Preserved Buses, formerly operated in, or now located in the North East Traffic Area
List updated 27th February 2014
www.nebpt.co.uk/vehicles/pg6.html
SMK 732F is on page 12
As for purple buildings and cranes in Vauxhall, is that something would be i the local paper? Something like a traffic notice to say keep clear of a certain street or intersection because a crane is going up/being taken down?
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3da09c No.16718804
Maybe this tower needs some further scrutiny. "Students" in their 20s in multi-million pound apartments?
'Tower for the toffs': UK's tallest skyscraper and playground of the rich
Robert Booth 24 May 2016
The Tower at St George Wharf has 214 flats on 50 floors, costing up to £51m. With no affordable homes, it feels more like a hotel than a home
Since it opened in October 2013, apartments have sold at prices ranging from £580,000 to £51m. The Tower includes no “affordable” housing and flats go on sale for as much as £2,100 per sq ft – almost three times the UK average for apartments.
The controversial decision by the former Labour deputy prime minister John Prescott to grant the Tower planning consent set a precedent for a dozen similar apartment towers now emerging in a mini-Manhattan at Nine Elms, a former industrial area soon to be home to the new US embassy and quickly transforming into London’s latest millionaires’ playground.
Residents can only access their own floors using a special key fob; a £15m apartment occupying the whole 45th floor has fingerprint recognition locks.
Some Tower residents are here all the time. Many are said to be students at London universities, there is a dentist and a doctor as well. But one peculiarity about life in the Tower is the lack of children.
“There are not many families here,” the employee said. “You won’t find many children between the ages of five and 20. There are students in their 20s, many from Asia.”
The Tower very nearly remained on the architects’ drawing board. In 2005, the London borough of Lambeth said the architecture was not good enough, it was too tall, and the overall St George Wharf complex of which it was part had insufficient affordable housing. The planning inspector agreed that was it too high and harmful to views of the Palace of Westminster and agreed it should not be built. It was left to Prescott to decide. As he deliberated, the former Conservative education secretary Kenneth Baker warned parliament the plans echoed Aldous Huxley’s classic dystopian novel Brave New World.
“Your lordships will remember that in the Brave New World the rich and the toffs were called alphas, and they were at the top,” he told the House of Lords. “The gammas, the deltas and the epsilons – the proles – were down at the bottom. That is how the development is to be done. In that great tower there will be no social affordable housing. It is all for the alphas. It is all for the toffs.”
He continued: “So we have a Labour deputy prime minister, a man who I think would describe himself as a good old-fashioned socialist, giving approval for a tower for the toffs. The other irony is that half of those flats, which will sell for upwards of £1m – probably, the higher one goes, more than £5m – will be bought by foreigners.”
Full Article:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/24/st-george-wharf-tower-london-luxury-pads-emblematic-housing-crisis
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3da09c No.16719993
>>16705019
Four on 10-AUG-2013-T
The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, I had to enlarge the image to see it standing there
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-london-england-uk-10th-august-2013-view-from-the-golden-jubilee-bridge-59174399.html?
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3da09c No.16720242
Camelford House again with the purple floodlighting on the South facing side of the building
Alamy Stock 28-May-2013-T
https://www.alamy.com/mi6-building-st-george-wharf-the-tower-and-vauxhall-bridge-on-the-thames-at-night-london-uk-image448812815.html?
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3da09c No.16720353
19-JAN-2018
There's some blue
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6f8299 No.16720729
>>16705204
>>16704865
Gonna try to tag prev posts in a bread to make it easier to keep track of posts related to London Pics during discussions now and future future archive/ search purposes.
>>16716355
>Something like a traffic notice to say keep clear of a certain street or intersection because a crane is going up/being taken down?
Good thot. The city might have some permit approvals too for moving equipment and even for operating hours for that equipment. Might indicate a more narrowed interval for first appearance and such. Might mean going into deeper onsite research or even writing or calling queries. Not all is on the interwebs.
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6f8299 No.16720752
>>16702568 >>16719993 >>16720242
>>16720729 >>16705019 >>16704327
>>16702568
>>16720353
>There's some blue
Yup, that's the same building at 18 Albert Embankment but after the additional floors were constructed. Interdasting that the short side of the three-side river view of that hotel could also be lit up like that. If it could be done prior to the addition of the upper floors, then, it might even provide a BETTER match with the Q pics than the northside view would have.
Like this pic from 2009
>>16704257
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6f8299 No.16720788
>>16704568 >>16705073 >>16704844
Compare with
>>16705073
In these views of the Yellow Bike, it looks to me like the front wheel was at times turned away from the kerb and the handle bars were rested against the post.
Not the same as other pics in which, to my eye, the bike was 'threaded' between the posts so that the rear wheel was chained to the left post and the front wheel, bolted, was rested on the kerbside of the second post, handle bars resting just so to keep the front and rear wheels lined-up together between the posts.
In all of these images shown so far, the bike's was oriented toward the Northumberland with the rearwheel pointing toward White Hall, or in the general direction of the park.
Depending on how the Q pics are viewed, with more or less zooming in, the bike seems to lean outward, toward the kerb, rather than inward, toward the hotel.
Anyway, as Anon has noted, if there are differences discerned between Ch3 and the other Q pics, and the bike might have been moved, and returned, then we have a distinct point within the time interval of the CH pics. Quite useful, that would be.
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6f8299 No.16720801
>>16704460
That pic of the TATT in the foreground, taken on 22-DEC-2013, shows the scene in daylight. Wonder if it contains hints of time of day; and if the tidal depiction could thus provide a sort of reference point to situate the Q pics - ROT 1 AND LisaMI6 come to mind.
If that was so, then, it might help re the appearance of cranes in the background. Just looking here to find more pieces to put on the table for this jigsaw. Trying to scrounge up more from the pictorial contents we've gathered.
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6f8299 No.16720863
>>16720788 >>16720801
By SV-JUL-2014 the yellow bike was replaced with a red bike, apparently.
Note how in these images the rear was pointed toward Northumberland and the front was pointed toward White Hall, or the park.
Reference.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5066183,-0.1234377,3a,75y,289.25h,93.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAludm0l0XVbgql6YZQ3rWw!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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6f8299 No.16720872
>>16720863
Sorry, only one of those SV images from JUL-2014 showed the red bike pointed toward White Hall. Interdasting. This series of SV images from the same month showed the bike had been moved and returned.
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6f8299 No.16720902
>>16720872
SV-JUL-2014 VIEW
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5066183,-0.1234377,3a,62.6y,286.08h,85.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAludm0l0XVbgql6YZQ3rWw!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
May 2015 view
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5065318,-0.123457,3a,34.2y,333.02h,85.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_FMfP1h9XoALRJzt6VMCwg!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
An yet another with no bike parked.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5065318,-0.123457,3a,34.2y,333.02h,85.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_FMfP1h9XoALRJzt6VMCwg!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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6f8299 No.16720923
>>16720902
Yellow bike on 2022, front wheel pointed toward White Hall, park. In this image the front wheel is chained to post and the rear is bolted.
SV-JUL-2022
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5066632,-0.1233641,3a,15y,249.8h,80.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s47_XkKn0PAPlPYjhPIr9JQ!2e0!5s20220601T000000!7i16384!8i8192
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e87456 No.16720935
>>16720353
Hope anons won’t mind my parallel digging but we all have our interests.
I noticed in anon’s posted pic that recognizable constellations were still capable of overcoming the London city lights so that even their full constellations were visible even near the horizon where the halo of the atmosphere and city lights is brightest and most difficult to observe celestial objects.
Why do I being this up? Well, in LONDON 2847 we have some feint lights which could be stars but which some thought might be just planes in the direction of Heathrow. (Would be quite a dogfight over Hearhrow though, in my humble opinion, if they are just plane lights.) Nevertheless, this pic provided by anon gives this anon an excellent idea of just how big the constellation of Orion appears and how high on the horizon. A great resource pic of stars seen even with feint clouds visible.
The direction is generally South but I can’t get an exact direction to give a time for the open source pic. But the scalar reference is excellent to visualize the size of constellations in the London sky.
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6f8299 No.16720953
>>16720788
With the englargments of close-ups of the yellow bike in the CH pics, can Anons see difference/s?
ROT 3, CH 1, CH 2 seem to show the yellow bike has one wheel behind the Do Not Enter signpost; and the other wheel behind the other post; note that this second post stands in front of a shorter post a bollard perhaps and it is NOT a lampost but looks like another sign post but without an actual sign on it.
CH3 seems to depict one of the bike wheels behind the Do Not Enter post but the other wheel in front of the second post.
AND, if I am not mistaken, CH3 shows the bike pointed in opposite direction of the other 3 Q pics. Scrutinize the cross bar of the frame. Look for the seat v the handle bars. Maybe I am seeing things, IDK.
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6f8299 No.16720965
>>16720935
That's a brilliant observ, fren.
The alamy stock photo is dated, winter of 2018, few years AFTER winter of 2013/2014.
Noice that this confirms detection of the constellation in London pic. Very kewel.
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e87456 No.16721106
>>16720935
Sorry, forgot to say I highlighted the stars (blue) in the original open sauce from Alamy. >>16720353
>>16720965
Yes, a reference pic proving constellations can be photographed even above the bright lit night sky above high rise buildings.
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e87456 No.16721135
>>16721106
Sorry, did not mean Yes >brilliant<
but, Yes, >stock photo from 2018< can be used as a reference.
Carry on.
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e87456 No.16721233
>>16720953
>AND, if I am not mistaken, CH3 shows the bike pointed in opposite direction of the other 3 Q pics. Scrutinize the cross bar of the frame. Look for the seat v the handle bars. Maybe I am seeing things, IDK.
My device has not greatest res for chiming in but…
I can say that if CH3 is diff it adds to the bins being different in CH3.
CH3 seems as untethered as CH1 is to the rest of the EMB/CH pics.
The RED jacket fellow at the bike hire may be tentative link betw CH1 and CH3, but if the yellow bike positions in CH1 and CH3 don’t match…At times I think CH1 is a morning shot but sometimes I think it’s taken at sunset because if that tiny bit of pinkish sky seen up Whitehall Place and if it us morning, would they grab the bins so soon? I suppose they could. But would they? Can’t be sure we don’t have diff dates nao. Like LISA.
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3da09c No.16724486
Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16695651, >>16695655, >>16696348, >>16696361, >>16696367, >>16696371, >>16696377 The DUMONT
>>16695851, >>16696278, >>16696407, >>16720242 Camelford House, 87-90 Albert Embankment
>>16696244, >>16696248 Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel 18 Albert Embankment, London SE1 7TJ, 1-AUG-2012-P vid of the two bridges over Thames, camera vantage The Eye (video)
>>16696414, >>16696415 Vauxhall SV images for 2012, 2013, 2019. Reference
>>16696455 Peninsula Heights Apartments, 93 Albert Embankment. The cranes in 22-DEC-2013-T are lit up on top
>>16696534 GE-07-2013-T (3D buildings overlayed)
>>16696573 Additional candidates for pink/ purple lit building?
>>16696609 Should not lose sight of the fact that most of the candidates for the pink/purple coloured building also reinforce the pre-2015-2016 conclusion UK Anons are working with for dating the Q pics
>>16696831, >>16696840 New Years Eve 31-DEC-2013-T videos for elevated night time views of the Embankments
>>16696954 NYE 31-DEC-2013-T via BBC One
>>16697024, >>16697063 Stock photos, various years
>>16704118, >>16704257, >>16720353 Crowne Plaza Hotel, 10-11 Albert Embankment London SE1 7SP with obvious pink exterior lighting
>>16704262 2011, Crowne and Riverbank hotels
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3da09c No.16724487
Counting Cranes Bun
>>16704118, >>16704289 Signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics
>>16704327 At least six cranes around Dec 2013
>>16704415, >>16704460 22-DEC-2013-T Daytime pic over looking TATTERSHALL CASTLE, 4 to 5 cranes visible over Vauxhall
>>16705019, >>16705021 At least three [3] cranes lit in night pic of 28-SEP-2013-T
>>16719993 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
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3da09c No.16724490
Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16704568 Image with two details that distinguish the scene from the Q-pics re CH
>>16704672 08-DEC-2012-T Corinthia Hotel and Blue Boris Bikes
>>16704822 Pics of the Yellow bike taken by same photographer on 22-DEC-2013. Both show one wheel IN FRONT of a post, Q pics show the wheel BEHIND that same post - with the exception of CH3
>>16704936 SV-May-2012 showing the pedestrian island
>>16705073, >>16720953 Yellow Bike SV images parked with one wheel in front of the post, SV-MAY-2014-P
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3da09c No.16724497
Notables are NOT Endorsements
passing 175
#47
>>16720935, >>16721106 Anons notices the constellations visible despite city lights in 2018 Alamy stock pic
>>16724486 Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16724487 Counting Cranes Bun
>>16724490 Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
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603135 No.16728506
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1c5cca No.16730413
>>16728506
Pall Mall old boy? Why yes I think I shall.
Per astera ad Astra.
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1c5cca No.16730552
>>16720935
>some thought might be just planes in the direction of Heathrow. (Would be quite a dogfight over Hearhrow though, in my humble opinion, if they are just plane lights.)
A CLARIFICATION- the original anon who speculated the stars/lights were plane traffic positioning for landing thought them bound for Heathrow. It should be noted that Heathrow is West of London and Gatwick airport is due South from Westminster. Some of the lights could still be air traffic to and from either airport. However, Gatwick is some 45 kilometers away as the crow flies. If some lights are air traffic, they could still be lining up before making making a turn West toward Heathrow and would be doing so closer to London than those from Gatwick.
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1c5cca No.16730686
>>16720801
>>16720801
>Wonder if it contains hints of time of day; and if the tidal depiction could thus provide a sort of reference point to situate the Q pics - ROT 1 AND LisaMI6 come to mind.
Sorry, just read anon’s post. Am getting bad for just skimming posts without reading.
Found this for London Bridge 2013. Close enuf.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/tidetables/2013/eutt2013book.pdf
See pg. 68
Can discuss time in follow on post.
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1c5cca No.16730811
>>16704460
>>16720801
>>16730686
Okay so looking at pic, it is late afternoon for December because sunset is around 4pm right? Will check. Anyway, to get a Suncalc bearing, is pic from Hungerford?Exactly where will help.
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1c5cca No.16730914
>>16730686
According to our tide chart, high tide was at 16:39. After sunset which was at 15:54.
So pic is a bit before 15:54 but definitely afternoon. The gangplank to TATTS is kind of lowish. So tide is still coming in.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/london?month=12&year=2013
A look at SUNCALC might narrow the exact bearing of the sun by the shadows noted on railing in the 22DEC TATTS pic.
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1c5cca No.16731159
>>16730811
>>16730914
This is one instance when I am happy to have been off in my original time of day/ bearing to sun estimates.
First, it looks like the Sun’s shadow is lined up with that squarish concrete mooring with railings on top that juts out between the HISP and the TATTS.
When you line up the shadows with the Sun using Suncalc I get the time to be about 1:30pm.
Second, that’s a gud thing because of the lowish look of the TATTS gangplank. This means the pic is 3 hours til high tide. Still a lot of water to rise. There is not a lot of rise (in tide) in that last hour. So all gud to have more time until high tide.
https://www.suncalc.org/#/51.5062,-0.1222,19/2013.12.22/13:34/1/1
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1c5cca No.16731429
>>16731159
>There is not a lot of rise (in tide) in that last hour.
What I mean by that statement is explained by the Rule of Twelfths for tides. Only 1/12 of the tide volume occurs in that last or first hour of the tide. See diagram.
Having 3 hours before high tide means HALF of the tide remains to come in.
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3da09c No.16732209
First pic for reference to show the distance from Hungerford Bridge to TATTERSHALL CASTLE. TinEye says 22 Aug 2021 but best date I can find is 1 May 2010
Second pic no date available, what caught me attention is the area is bathed in a red floodlighting I've never seen before
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6f8299 No.16732365
Man acquitted re Air India bombing has been shot in Canada
https://twitter.com/i/events/1547655686493913091
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1c5cca No.16732462
>>16732209
>>16732365
Heard u guys are looking for cranes in South London.
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6f8299 No.16732538
>>16732209
Noice.
Both pics show the TATT's funnel as white on top so prior to her move to Hull for the upgrades and change in her colour scheme.
Alamy pic shows no shroud behind Big Ben, no cranes in the skyline of Albert Embankment, not Q-match for the banner signs on the TATT's rails on deck, unlit RAF eagle memorial (or low lit), decent view of the gate at the streetside end of TATT's gangplank, and a great view of the HISP'S ramp and its entrance awning at the sidewalk. No advert boards that I can spot.
So prolly pre 2013/2014. Gud reference for the markers, too.
>best date I can find is 1 May 2010
Sauce, fren?
The camera for the Discoveric pic was located on the ramp on the riverside of the river wall. Just before the gate at the backside of the Bazalgette memorial that is a marker in the EMB pics.
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6f8299 No.16732540
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6f8299 No.16732556
>>16730686 >>16730811 >>16730914 >>16731159 >>16731429
Well done. Making the most of what we have. Noice observs.
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3da09c No.16732639
>>16732538
Scratch that first date, date is from a pic where the Eye is pink/purple
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3da09c No.16732851
WHO has gone woke
General Research #21105 >>16732450
World Health Organization Officially States That There Are More Than Two Biological Genders
The WHO has announced that it intends to update its “widely-used gender mainstreaming manual.”
The body says of the manual that it is “updating it in light of new scientific evidence and conceptual progress on gender, health and development.”
What exactly that ‘scientific evidence’ is is still a mystery.
The press release from the WHO states that part of its new findings to go into the manual is that “sex is not limited to male or female.”
The WHO states that it is “going beyond binary approaches to gender and health,” in order “[t]o recognize gender and sexual diversity, or the concepts that gender identity exists on a continuum and that sex is not limited to male or female.”
Sauce: New York Post https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1546849565743120385
The globalist body, in partnership with the United Nations University International Institute for Global Health, also intends to introduce “new gender, equity and human rights frameworks and tools to further support capacity building around these concepts and the integration of their approaches.”
Sauce: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/world-health-organisation-gender-not-limited-male-or-female
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1c5cca No.16733324
>>16732209
>>16732538
>unlit RAF eagle memorial
Good catch. So the RAF memorial being darkened is not unusual. Do we have an idea what time the new sauce pic was taken?
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3da09c No.16734100
>>16732209 (me)
>>16732538
Found it!
First pic taken 25 October 2014
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3da09c No.16734442
1 March 2014
Corinthia Hotel, blue Boris Bikes, Spamalot at the Playhouse Theatre, and that little green with white cross First Aid sign or whatever it is on the pole
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3da09c No.16734449
>>16734442 (me)
Amazing how much better it works to actually post the screencap
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3da09c No.16734821
24 October 2015
Post-Refit TATTERSHALL CASTLE
RAF Memorial is dark
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825409 No.16735369
>>16689629
Keep trying to connect.
Approx. 19:00 EST, Saturday 23rd July 2022.
May all in danger reach safe harbour.
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6f8299 No.16742328
>>16719993
Cap of Alamy stock photo, 10-AUG-2013-T.
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6f8299 No.16742364
>>16705019
>https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3781544
Cap of N. Chadwick pic of Thames skyline, 17-DEC-2013. Night.
No pink/purple lit building, apparently.
Interdasting date.
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6f8299 No.16742373
>>16742364
Sorry, DEC was date submitted.
Date Taken = 28-SEP-2013-T.
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fa237c No.16747168
>>16733324
8-NOV-2016-T.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NgOsVFAEw9Pd/
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fa237c No.16747275
OCT-2011, Reference, view from footbridge similair to Q pics, especially LisaMi6.
VID
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mt7jBASQ5LvO/
Caps with highlights of areas of interest.
RAF Memorial.
Bright object in night sky.
Skyline at Albert Embankment
TATT's gangplank gate.
HISP's entrance re individual pedestrian for scale and comparison with LisaMI6.
Also note the aft deck of TATT, tables, seats; note the lack of interior illumination on the bridge dining area. For comparison with LisaMI6.
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fa237c No.16747303
>>16747275
Vid, comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bzft57cyoYTI/
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3da09c No.16747379
>>16747275
It looks to me like in those pics there is a floodlight on the river side of the RAF Memorial pointed as to illuminate the wings in a kid of backlighting effect. Down at the base, roughly street level
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fa237c No.16747440
>>16747303
Purple Sister, vid mark 1 minute
https://youtu.be/eDzV7cMRvHM?t=63
The vid shows pics from a photo competition. Photographers had 24 hours in middlle of July 2014 to tke improvised pics of London. However, the rooftop shrouding over construction work behind Big Ben indicate this particiuar photo was tke in DEC 2013 and not in JUL 2014.
The closeup view of Millibank Tower lights on upper floors suggest a strong match with LisaMI6. >>16747303
There are other open sauces that narrow the time interval to Christmas week and quite possibly even narrower.
Given the 22-DEC-2013 pics of the EMB area taken by N. Chadwick and posted online (see prev UK breads0, perhaps Anons could take a re-look for more pictorial evidence and analysis.
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fa237c No.16747575
>>16747440
The 24London open sauce photo (nicknamed "Purple Sister" re LisaMI6) has been marked up to point at potential time markers.
In addition to the two red lights on consstruction cranes, can Anons spot other cranes?
An arrow points at a bright white object near a rooftop. Can we rule out the Moon? Might it be another safety light - although it is much brighter and appears larger than other rooftop lights in various sauces and did not apper in Q pics, item A. Perhaps it flashes on and off and just had not been captured randomly.
Item B is pointed at a dim object inthe skyhline that may be another crane in some distance beyond the waterfront buildings. Or on a building and just between intermittent flashes?
Item C points at the 'gap' in the row of waterfront buildings. This may indicate time taken related to demolition schedule? While this area was not well-captured in Q pics, it was in the frame for the 22-DEC-2013-T submission of Chadwick. This has been compared with SV imagery in the previous UK Bread.
Three encircled areas include Millibank Tower, rooftop shroud, and RAF Memorial.
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fa237c No.16747587
>>16747575
Moar points of interest in comparison between open sauce pics and LisaMI6. Each of these points have a story of its own so will add text analysis in short while.
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fa237c No.16747634
>>16747575
>In addition to the two red lights on consstruction cranes, can Anons spot other cranes?
>Item C points at the 'gap' in the row of waterfront buildings.
Look for these points, and others, in closeup of the Albert Embankment as cap;tured by Chadwick 22-DEC-2013.
The 24London pic (Purple Sister) matches up ok with Chadwick's pic re the gap in the waterfront buildings and some, if not all, of the location of the two obvious crane red lights. The daylight pic shows more cranes that, if present, were not lit-up in nightime open sauce pics - and not apparent in Q pics. This comparison does not prove the cranes were present nor that they were not present at time of Q pics. But it remains an open question. Hence the significance of the construction schedule on Albert Embankment. Give the stke in the ground provided by Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013, we can use pics from that same time interval, if possible, to relate back to the Q pics, I think.
Likewise for open sauce images that captured Christmas week lights and markers in the area around the foot of the Eye.
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fa237c No.16747671
This aerial pic was taken from the Millbank Tower. Have misplaced the date taken, however, it it was before the Q time interval by a few years, if I recall correctly.
Note that the gap in the row of waterfront buldings had not yet appeared at the time of this pic. Also the Crowne Plaza had not yet undergone rennovations. And 18 Albert Embankment, the building with the 3-sided waterfront, had not been rennovated; this is the brightly lit purple/ pink building in other pics, including Q pics.
So this predates the time interval of Christmas week 2013. However it is a very good reference for other considerations.
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fa237c No.16747726
>>16747634 >>16747671 >>16747575
What follows is a series of SV images taken from the street at the foot of Millbank Tower. The various SV images along the Millbank (A3212) provide a view of the other side of the river which is obstructed by treecover. Coincidentally, the best view of the area of interest is from the approxiamte locaton of Millbank both elevated and on the ground level.
Orientate on GooMap - see Millbank Tower across the river from Park Plaza River Bank hotel.
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fa237c No.16747742
>>16747726
For the sake of completedness, this series of SV images includes 2012 to 2020 so as to capture the demolition and construction period on this part of Albert Embankment.
SV-SEP-2012
SV-JUN-2014
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fa237c No.16747754
>>16747742
SV-MAY-2016
SV-MAR-2017
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fa237c No.16747766
>>16747754
SV-OCT-2018
SV-NOV-2020
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fa237c No.16747778
Here is a good view of the area of interest on Albert embankment. It appears to have been taken from a position over the riverbank wall, likely on the river.
This pic predates the Q time interval as per the prev explanation in >>16747671 .
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fa237c No.16747817
>>16747726
The SV images from the roadways once again has a gap for the year 2013. This gap in SV imagery exists on the Victoria Embankment side also. Coincidence, maybe.
Well, GooMaps does show a view of both sides of the river from the deck of a boat on the Thames and this was captured in 2013.
SV-AUG-2013
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4920119,-0.1241766,3a,89.9y,98.97h,97.75t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spW-GcO9F-d6kga76LgpxfA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DpW-GcO9F-d6kga76LgpxfA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D113.33927%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
Preprations for demolition are evident at the area that would become a gap in the row of buildings along Albert Embankment.
The vantage for this view is prolly pretty close to the position on the river of the boat seen in the last pic - >>16747778
So from this series of SV images we can confirm that 22-DEC-2013-T which shows the gap must have been taken after SV-AUG-2013. This just helps reinforce the winter 2013/2014 time interval for the Q pics.
Add sries of Chadwick pics from 22-DEC-2013 and we can connect the appearance of the gap in the row of buldings with the Q pics and Christmas week.
Nothing spectacular but this is the foundation for the re-look that I invite Anons to undertake.
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fa237c No.16747901
>>16747778
>It appears to have been taken from a position over the riverbank wall, likely on the river.
Correction. That observ is out of date. From notes on a different pics which was undated. Apologies
That pic which pre-dates Q pics, was prolly taken close to the following lcoation.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4909422,-0.1260912,3a,89y,94.54h,98.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snfYKR8lBa4uME-pQ-HYZxQ!2e0!5s20080901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16748013
>>16747587
Add this to the mix. Getty stock photo, 25-DEC-2013-T. This is an old find with which Anon found a match with the upper floor lighting on Millbank Tower in LisaMI6.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-sun-sets-across-westminster-and-the-london-eye-on-christmas-day-picture-id459313291?s=2048x2048
And this one.
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/cityscape-at-night-royalty-free-image/601905855
Could Anons help confirm the date take for each?
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fa237c No.16748035
>>16748013
>>16748013
Anothe to date.
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/illuminated-hungerford-bridge-and-golden-jubilee-royalty-free-image/686787501
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fa237c No.16748204
>>16747303 >>16748013 >>16747575
Getty Christmas Day pic provides close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London. There are differences, of course, and so these three pics taken together indicate a passage of time within the same narrow time interval.
>>16748013
Will refine these comparison pics but for now work in progress.
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fa237c No.16748313
>>16748204
Okay, so we have four good views of Millibank Tower lights at night around Christmas week 2013.
So to revisit the foundation. Note the shroud behind Big Ben, in each of these pics. Blue Eye.
Also note the lights on/off status at the Speaker's apartment, corner of Westiminster Palace. LisaMI6 shows that building's interior lights off and no, or very dim, flood lights. This is matched in 24London and Getty 25-DEC-2013-T. The flood lights are on for >>16748035 and the interior lights are on for "Bright Sister" (middle pic in >>16747303 and middle pic in >>16747587 . Gonna suggest that where the floodlights are full on th Speaker's apartment, th epic was taken EARLIER than those with floodlights off; and same for the interior lights on vs off. This needs to be confirmed, natch.
Righto, next, compare the lights on Millibank Tower. >>16748204
Consider the upper level firt. The pattern holds across LisaMI6, 24London, 25-DEC-2013-T, and holds partially with >>16748035 in which one of the floors that are fully lit in the other pics is somewhat dimmed.
Next, the middle level floors. Unfortunately, in LisaMI6 this area is partially obscured by items between it and the camera. Still there is a discernible pattern that holds across LisaMI6, 25-DEC-2013, and >>16748035 . This does not hold in 24London and Bright Sister.
The best match may still be 24London (Purple Sister). However, we have a dated pic, 25-DEC-2013-T, provided by Getty stock photos. That pic is a gud match for LisaMI6, too. It may be a better match.
Then there is >>16748035 which needs to be firmly dated. It looks like a good match except for just one upper floor difference.
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fa237c No.16748385
To stitch together this analysis of the EMB pics will be quite the challenge.
1)
22-DEC-2013-T provides gud Q-match for the row of buldings on the riverfront of Albert Embankment. This pic shows cranes that are very difficult to confirm in the Q pics, if at all. This pic is a daytime shot.
2)
25-DEC-2013-T from Getty is a gud match with Lisa-MI6 re Millibank Tower and the Speaker's apartment. Night shot.
We now have a series of open sauce pics that on their own show a range of changes within a time interval staked on 25-DEC-2013-T. And a series of pics of the Albert Embankment which reinforces 22-DEC-2013-T as a good proxy for examining the buildings in that location which is not well-captured in Q pics.
The pink/purple building is in each EMB night pic except for LisaMI6 because it is just out of camera frame. 24London provides a proxy for that aspect of the analysis. This building is out of frame of the other pics that show the Millibank Tower lights.
Two proxies: Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T and 24London.
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3da09c No.16748654
>>16748035
Earliest date given by TinEye is 16 Jan 2021
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3da09c No.16748734
TinEye says first found 6 December 2014. Notice the cranes on the left. The nearest St. George Tower has the big white floodlight, the one left has the white flood and a red for the two boom sections
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fa237c No.16748930
>>16748654
Thanks, anon.
Shroud on rooftop behind Bg Ben not present JAN 2021.
Tineye is not as good a resource as it once was.
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fa237c No.16748997
>>16748734
That DEC-2014 [oc is a terrific find and helps to clarify the cranes in December 2013. The bright white light seen in 2013 pic is part of the boom/crane and so can confirm not a celestial object.
The pic you found also helps show differences in the skyline behind Westminster and differences on the rooftop of Westminster.
The cranes in DEC-2014 did not appear in Q pics so that's a good distinguisher. As is the changes in the shrouded rennovation work on the rooftop of Westminister. The shroud behind Big Ben was taken down early spring 2013; the work around the Lord Speaker's apartment (i.e. near the House of Lords) began that same spring of 2014.
The DEC-2014 pic also confirms the pink/ purple building's location.
Wonder if it was late afternoon or early morning when that DEC-2014 pic was taken?
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fa237c No.16749049
>>16748013
Another way to identify the relevant stock photos is by the photograher's name.
Justin Setterfield, 25-DEC-2013-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/56ad217b16818d3b9151c942f6c2db2d1119658426f6a27ff7d443bbe27cf504.png
David Gonzalez, date not specified
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/bf30272d2acca49233c831d703a98d84756a9d20c7b7c4784c6f76b3c850e98a.png
Nigel Allison, date not specified
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/0ce9a1a4d6dd641716c37ab74c9ccbdac1aa9fc4ed79d44e8b95ca9926e1ccbb.png
Now, technically, all three of these have no specified date as per the online details that Getty provided, however, the first, JUSTIN, has Chrismas Day in its filename and the pic markers indicate DEC-2013.
On the other hand, these pics were taken from similar vantage and also in the same winter, as per the markers within the camera frames.
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fa237c No.16749161
>>16749049
Mike Kemp, Date created: 14 December, 2013
UK - London - South Bank View during the busy Christmas season towards the London Eye and Westminster
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/view-of-the-southbank-during-the-busy-christmas-season-towards-the-picture-id527454362?s=2048x2048
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fa237c No.16749548
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Request for Anons:
Please show the following video to a normie. The purpose is to test this video for ease of comprehension. No audio so you might have to provide a very brief overview regarding, not the Q aspect, but the mapping of the three key markers, plus the PLAZA's main features.
Ask your normie to watch a video about the central Plaza at the major theme park of London UK. Ask them to look for a carousel, a big ferris wheel, and a special kind of rollercoaster ride. Tell them to be prepared to walk through the crowds, ride up a tower, and be flung about on a giant pendulum that is out of control. Kek. Then, show the video and observe their reactions.
Then ask your normie to map out on a piece of paper, or verbally, the main features of the PLAZA that they can recall offhand. Don't prompt them for the three main markers.
Next ask them to watch again and to look for the direction tree, the polar bears on a kiosk roof, and a place called Apres. Telll them that they can pause and rewind as much as they need to find those three things.
And, finally, query them about the 3 main markers that you had mentioned at the beginning. Just note their remarks and reactions.
This sort of testing of the normie viewership is something I've done myself and it gives me new eyes, actually.
Eventually whatever we learn from our London Pics digz and from Q regarding the significance of this series of pics, we will have the choice to spread the word widely. That is so for a huge swatch of the digz on Q drops on all kinds of topics and places. Think of this as preparation for ourselves but also for refining our approach to the most basic elements of communications for normies.
Cheers
PS Note that this is not brand new video but it has shown itself useful for the stated purpose. If you have another in mind, or an infographic, that does not focus on Q aspect but on viewer comprehension of important bits and pieces, then, by all means spearmint away and let me know how it goes.
Winter Wonderland, London UK, The Plaza and its attractions.
https://youtu.be/CpRGKZH4ZKE
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018d56 No.16749553
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3da09c No.16749843
>>16748930
>Tineye is not as good a resource as it once was.
Agree with you there. Was looking last night at shutterstock and others. One pic looked like a possible comparison, our old friend TinEye said first found 1 Nov 2021. No Corniche, no Dumont
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3da09c No.16749877
This one is supposed to be first found 31 August, 2013
St George Tower not complete, but lower floors have the lights on
No demolition for Corniche or Dumont
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9a2a5a No.16750095
Verified: TruthSocial is now accepting sign-ups from the UK.
https://truthsocial.com
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fa237c No.16752980
>>16749843
The link?
Here is an enlargement of the area of interest. The date taken is prolly within or near the Q time interval, I think. So that clear view of the crane with the two red and one white light is relevant. It is a good ref for Millbank too.
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fa237c No.16753025
>>16749877
Link, fren?
The date take you cited is plausible. Demolition apparently took place in the Fall of 2013. We need better pictorial evidence and documentation on that, natch.
Here's another enlargement.
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fa237c No.16753143
>>16747817
GE-MAR-2012
Imagery Date: 8/2/2011
View Location: 51°29'27.88" N 0°07'18.01" W
Been meaning to inquire about the date information on these GooEarth views. As you can see, the User Interface displayed 03/2012 while at the foot of the view is displayed imagery date of 8/2/2011
This view is "upside down" from the other images posted which show the facades. The activity behind the facades turns out to be significant in the next image but, more importantly, the shadows and such seem, to me at least, more easy to interpret from this side.
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fa237c No.16753358
>>16753143
GE-JUL-2013
Imagery Date: 18-JUL-2013
View Location: 51°29'27.88" N 0°07'18.01" W
Also close-up view of start of demolition.
51°29'26.92" N 0°07'18.99" W
From this we can infer that the crane was erected in JUL-2013 but work on the building facade was not evident until the appearance of the hoarding as per SV-AUG-2013 (posted above) >>16747817 and as per the date taken on shutterstock photo (posted above) >>16749877 and as per closeup >>16753025 we can infer that demolition on the buiding began sometime in SEP-2013.
We are missing pictorial evidence for SEP-2013, however, we have the gap captured in Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T which serves as a proxy to compare with other images which Chadwick took the same day with the related pics discussed above including 25-DEC-2013-T.
We also have an obscured view from Chadwick 28-SEP-2013 (posted above) >>16705019 which shows cranes at Albert Embankment.
All told, we have a time interval for the appearance of cranes at night with 28-SEP-2013 as a stake in the ground, rather than an actual bookend. The NOT BEFORE, just for the night lights on cranes, appears to be mid JUL-2013 - around the same time that the particular crane first appeared to be setting up in GE-JUL-2013 (Imagery date 18-JUL-2013).
That crane may be fully setup, IDK. Its lights may be ready to be lit-up for night time. If it was, then, there might yet be evidence of its lights over Albert Embankment during the summer of 2013. However, the SV-AUG-2013 images did not show the crane yet.
So we have evidence of the gap and we have evidence of crane lights. As mentioned earlier, this is useful information for comparing with proxies for the Q pics.
Can Anons discern cranes in the Q pics over Albert Embankment? Might the work on these buildings have been done and the crane removed by sometime before Christmas week? Moved, perhaps, to another project farther behind Albert Embankment such that red lit cranes reappear in the vicinity, as seen from vicinity of Q cameras, after the Q interval? This might explain the pictorial evidence but it is only speculation at this point.
All of that goes by the wayside if there are cranes evident in Q pics.
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fa237c No.16753413
>>16753358
Sorry, here's the GE-JUL-2013 pic.
Its closeup was posted alone. >>16753358
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fa237c No.16753504
>>16753358
Another close-up, GE-JUL-2013.
I don't think there is hoarding to match that in SV-AUG-2013 >>16747817 .
But in that SV imagery there is a low crane just visible above the height of the buldings there.
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fa237c No.16753525
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fa237c No.16753556
>>16753525
Four cranes.
SV-AUG-2013.
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fa237c No.16753575
>>16753556
Is this crane being assembled?
Pre-facade-hoarding, perhaps?
I don't see signs of deconstruction, yet.
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fa237c No.16753687
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fa237c No.16753747
>>16753687
SV-JUL-2014
The Corniche gap.
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fa237c No.16753773
>>16753687 >>16753747
General area of interest in SV-JUL-2014.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4917844,-0.1220129,3a,75y,139.49h,113.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sof4KpkidSnmVioYODEiirw!2e0!5s20140601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
SV-JUN-2012.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.491779,-0.1220215,3a,75y,139.49h,113.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVApn8pD4IHJIMr0UGB5xZQ!2e0!5s20120601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16753783
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fa237c No.16753808
>>16753747
The SV view of JUL-2014 showed lower cranes. This might contribute to the plausibility that taller cranes were used to demolish in the Fall and that these were replaced or modified such that the cranes would not appear above the height of the buildings during Christmas week - and thus explain the non-appearance of crane lights over Albert Embankment in the Q pics.
Another simple explanation could be that the crane lights were obscured by the treecover along Victoria Embankment.
And so we must make the most of the proxies that are currently available to us for Christmas week, or around that time.
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fa237c No.16754266
>>16753808
Up river to Westminster Bridge
Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816144
And a closelup modified to enhance view of the cranes and buiding profiles.
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fa237c No.16754281
>>16753808
NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847
Also a modified version to bring out the treecover which obscures the view of Albert Embankment.
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fa237c No.16754319
>>16753808
NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423
Also modified exposure which reveals the treecover that somewhat obscures view of Albert Embankment.
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fa237c No.16754392
>>16754319
Zoomed-in to the pink/ purple building, 18 Albert Embankment, it is possible to discern the white horizontal lights of the ground level there; and the shape of the bright building appears to conform to the shape prior to the rennovations that took place starting the following year. Beyond that, there appear to be no cranes over that area of interest.
Would the treecover alone account for no red crane lights? IDK.
Why would such a detail be scrutinize, you might ask. Well, the cranes stood there, as per Chadwick 22-DEC-2013, but their red lights do not appear in the Q pics. This discrepancy can not be explained, I think now, by a lull in the work being done in that area, nor by a change in the cranes, UNLESS such occurred AFTER 22-DEC-2013.
And if that is the case, then, those lights are marker for further refinement of the time interval bookends for EMB pics.
If instead there is an explanation, or evidence, that shows some other factor that would make those lights subdued, and thus obscured completely by the treecover on Victoria Embankment, or were turned off or otherwise removed from view, then that too could provide a new marker.
Having taken this dig as far as it seems possible, at this time, I am going to drop the crane and purple-building dig and turn to other possible refinements of the EMB time interval. for instance, there may be more than one such interval for this subset of the London Pics. Analysis of the traffic provides something that may do the trick.
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fa237c No.16754461
>>16754392
Should add that, of course, the use of proxies to analyze the Millibank Tower lights, and the stake in the ground represented by Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T, may suffice to narrow the time interval to two or three days/nights.
Here is a series of DEC-2013 pics, plus a summer pic, of those lights. These closeups come from the pics posted upthread. Will refine later but for now can Anons rank these in terms of closeness of a match with LisaMI6? Observs?
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fa237c No.16754564
Picadilly Circus Snowglobe
Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
Note the lack of heavy traffic, if any. Light pedestrian traffic, too. Time of day?
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fa237c No.16754678
>>16747575
Fair to say that some of us have been curious about the source of the bright lighting that caused 18 Alberta Embankment to shine pink or purple (or bue for that matter). Well take a close look at the SV-MAY-2012 windows. They are covered by a layer of glass mounted to the facade. And between that layer and the windows there is what looks like a series of a type of flood light that might have been capable of throwing different hues of illumination against the layer of glass panels. Speculating.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.491739,-0.1216146,3a,64y,183.62h,138.22t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siQ8uq0lilKrF_6nXmZI3wg!2e0!5s20120501T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16754723
>>16747575
Fair to say that some of us have been curious about the source of the bright lighting that caused 18 Alberta Embankment to shine pink or purple (or bue for that matter). Well take a close look at the SV-MAY-2012 windows. They are covered by a layer of glass mounted to the facade. And between that layer and the windows there is what looks like a series of a type of flood light that might have been capable of throwing different hues of illumination against the layer of glass panels. Speculating.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.491739,-0.1216146,3a,64y,183.62h,138.22t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siQ8uq0lilKrF_6nXmZI3wg!2e0!5s20120501T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16754735
>>16754678
View of the glass panels from the other side of 18 Embankment. Maybe the floodlights shone directly onto the facade, which does not look like actual brick.
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fa237c No.16755363
>>16753504
Maybe there was some hoarding in place by SV-AUG-2013 / GE-AUG-2013. Doesn't appear to have been rapped around the riverside of the building in the GE pic; if so, then, the SE pic was captured AFTER the GE sat image.
Several months later, the SE-JUN-2014 images captured rather low crane work in the gap left behind by the demolition of 20 Albert Embankment (aka Hampton House).
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/55cc746779addacdb15ceebf05d61b459d11099f6c19be5c59efef734ba38a79.png
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fa237c No.16755656
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fa237c No.16755658
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fa237c No.16755666
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/london%2C-uk-24nd-december-2013.html?imgt=0
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fa237c No.16755674
>>16755666
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/london%2C-uk-25nd-december-2013.html?imgt=0
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fa237c No.16755875
Crowne Plaza hotel to open on Albert Embankment, 27 September 2013
https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7106
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fa237c No.16755879
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fa237c No.16755895
>>16755875
Albert Embankment: rooftop club overlooking Parliament approved/ 7 August 2016
Plans for a rooftop private members' club on Albert Embankment with views of the Houses of Parliament have been approved by Lambeth councillors.
A representative of the 9 Albert Embankment Residents' Association reminded the committee that the council had received more than a hundred objections to the proposal, which was effectively for an open-air bar 10 metres from families' homes.
Paul Thelwell of Cannon Corporate UK told the committee that the roof terrace would create a further 26 jobs in addition to the jobs linked to the main hotel operation.
He said that the hotel will be "aimed at discerning customers who want peace and quiet from their hotel experience" and the club is for "our guests and a small number of hotel club members".
Prince's ward councillor Joanne Simpson urged the committee to impose conditions on the planning permission to safeguard her constituents from noise "all day, every day".
Cannon Corporate UK is owned by Mudhar Shawkat, a former member of the Iraqi parliament and opponent of Saddam Hussain who now has Canadian nationality.
Last year Mudhar Shawkat called for the creation of a 10,000-strong Sunni army in Iraq to take on the so-called Islamic State.
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fa237c No.16755898
>>16755895
https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/8868
For emphasis:
Cannon Corporate UK is owned by Mudhar Shawkat, a former member of the Iraqi parliament and opponent of Saddam Hussain who now has Canadian nationality.
Last year Mudhar Shawkat called for the creation of a 10,000-strong Sunni army in Iraq to take on the so-called Islamic State.
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fa237c No.16755927
>>16755895
Albert Embankment Residents' Association
11 December 2013
https://se11actionteam.blogspot.com/2013/12/victory-for-residents-8-albert.html
Park Plaza's bid to grow taller deferred by Planning Committee, 1 May 2013
https://se11actionteam.blogspot.com/2013/05/park-plazas-bid-to-grow-taller-deferred.html
ast night Lambeth's Planning Committee spent an hour and 40 minutes considering the Park Plaza Hotel's bid to add several storeys to the front of their building. Objectors representing residents of 9 Albert Embankment and Salamanca Place did an excellent job questioning the effect the extension will have on light to their homes (which are already some of the darkest and most enclosed residential areas in the borough). In the end the Committee decided they couldn't make a decision because the information the hotel and the council officers were providing on daylight wasn't clear enough.
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fa237c No.16755937
>>16755927
Albert Embankment "stealth bomber" hotel extension approved, 24 July 2013
https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/6992
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fa237c No.16755950
>>16755937
For emphasis:
The committee agreed to the plans with three votes in favour, one against and three absentions.
Later in the evening a proposal to vary an existing permission for the redevelopment of Wah Kwong House at 10 Albert Embankment, to allow for the new building to operate as an hotel rather than the agreed apart-hotel was approved…
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fa237c No.16756137
PUBLISHED: 09:09 EDT, 22 December 2013 | UPDATED: 09:55 EDT, 23 December 2013
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2527889/The-soggy-Christmas-getaway-Motorists-warned-heavy-rain-80mph-winds-river-bursts-bank-York-city-centre.html
Millions have had their plans for the Christmas getaway thrown into complete chaos today as a violent storm has hit western Britain and will spread eastwards across the UK over the next 24 hours.
Railway stations and airports are already filling up with passengers after they were urged to bring forward their journeys so they can get home before the bad weather sets in across the majority of the UK this afternoon.
The Met Office has issued a severe weather warning running into Christmas Eve because of gale force gusts of up to 80mph and flooding caused by torrential rain. Gusts of up to 70mph have already been recorded.
The storm will hit in two waves, first peaking across the UK this afternoon, with a slight lull in the evening before wind and rain intensifies again overnight before clearing on Christmas Eve morning.
Many train operators are offering customers the chance to use any pre-booked tickets for travel on earlier trains in order to avoid the expected disruption, with hundreds of cancellations expected during the evening rush hour.
And if the trains do run journeys are likely to be substantially lengthened as a nationwide train 'go slow' of 50mph is likely to be imposed.
…
The severe weather warnings are in place until 9am on Christmas Eve, threatening to cause localised flooding across southern England and Wales, particularly in areas which have already experienced plenty of rain in recent weeks with the ground already saturated.
'We have a rainfall warning all the way through to 9am tomorrow morning and we're expecting in the region of 30 to 40mm, particularly over Dartmoor' said a Met Office spokesman.
Taking its toll: The strong winds cause a tree trunk to fall and crush a van on Cannings Road in East Croydon, London
Taking its toll: The strong winds cause a tree trunk to fall and crush a van on Cannings Road in East Croydon, London
'The wind is probably the main feature, and we'll see the wind pick up across the south. They will be gales really, everywhere across southern and central areas.
'The real focus for the strongest winds will be in the South East and all along the south coast today - there will be severe gales.
'We will be asking people if their travel is really essential - of course today will be the worst day for travel with the holiday period getting underway, it's the worst possible time.'
…
Meanwhile, Winter Wonderland in Hyde Park, Central London, will be closed today due to the high winds.
Many operators removed limits on day tickets for today in an effort to stop customers travelling today when 50mph speed restrictions are likely to be in place.
Robin Gisby, for Network Rail, said: ‘Our fundamental concern over the next 48 hours is to get everyone where they want to be for Christmas.’
He added: ‘I want to be very clear that our priority is running as many trains as we can safely, rather than worrying about hitting the timetable bang on.’
…
The worst of the weather is expected to clear by the end of Christmas Eve.
Those looking to make an early getaway have been hit by minor problems, with some England to France ferries delayed due to poor weather.
And train companies looked ahead to today, advising customers to plan their journeys around the heavy winds to avoid disruption.
East Coast is halving services from teatime today - with just four trains an hour instead of the usual eight in and out of London King’s Cross.
It warned disruption would continue for two days well into Christmas Eve.
The news means up to 2,400 passengers an hour will be left stranded.
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fa237c No.16756217
View from the Pentagon, NIOC.
http://www.watersidetours.co.uk/images/trips/uk-tours-2022-london-weekend/london-vista.jpg
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f6e38f No.16756320
Morning Britfags. Do any of you have the links to Q Research UK for the very earliest posts? I'm specifically looking for a memo between the head of MI6 and then foreign sec Boris Johnson, discussing his permission to spy on Trump.
Do we have that memo?
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fa237c No.16756368
>>16756320
Question everything.
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1498/16/1498161289904.jpg
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/130966071/#130966071
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fa237c No.16756376
"Within 90 minutes of the letter’s being posted to 4chan, most users there concluded that it was a forgery."
https://medium.com/dfrlab/online-lies-about-spies-b1f5fb86aed4
FWIW
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3da09c No.16758602
>>16756137
< with a slight lull in the evening before wind and rain intensifies again overnight before clearing on Christmas Eve morning
What a great candidate for the embankment pics.
The buses would have been parked, TATTERSHALLCASTLE and HISPANIOLA would have been closed for safety reasons.
The Thames would be high due to the run-off.
Not a great many people would be out and about during that lull.
A couple up to clandestine activities would be taking advantage of the lack of people
I'd certainly want to ride out a big storm at a five-star hotel, certainly if at taxpayer expense.
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0768f1 No.16761329
>>16730686
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Surprisingly average recorded high tides that week.
>>16758602
Tidal forces from the Moon can sometimes weigh against that abnormal runoff. For instance, in our case the Moon is likely at or near 3rd quarter. So it’s position is contrary to solar influence which can pull the water to the sides of the earth. And if occurring at just the right time to defeat any rain flooding influence, you know who’s gonna win out.
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3da09c No.16764648
Britain swelters on its hottest day ever as temperatures hit 40C
By Kate Holton and Sachin Ravikumar July 19, 20222:38 PM EDT
LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain recorded its hottest day ever on Tuesday, with the temperature exceeding 40C (104F) as a heatwave gripping Europe intensified, forcing train tracks to buckle and fuelling a spate of fires across London.
The Met Office said a new provisional record temperature of 40.3C (104.5F) was recorded in Coningsby, in central England, with 34 sites across the country experiencing temperatures in excess of the previous high of 38.7C (101.7F) recorded in 2019.
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Stephen Belcher at the Met Office said he had not expected to see such temperatures in Britain in his career.
"Research conducted here at the Met Office has demonstrated that it's virtually impossible for the UK to experience 40C in an undisrupted climate but climate change driven by greenhouse gases has made these extreme temperatures possible," he said.
Train services on major routes from London up the east and west coast of the country were cancelled, electricity companies reported mass outages and normally busy city centres appeared quiet. Network Rail tweeted a number of pictures showing large bends and kinks in rail tracks.
London Fire Brigade declared a major incident and urged people to stop having barbecues, as hundreds of firefighters battled blazes across the capital.
To the east, a large fire engulfed homes in the village of Wennington, with flames tearing across about 40 hectares (100 acres) of neighbouring tinder-dry fields. Elsewhere large grassland areas around the capital caught fire, billowing smoke over major roads and nearby areas.
'DO NOT TRAVEL'
Transport minister Grant Shapps said there had been a considerable amount of travel disruption.
"Infrastructure, much of which was built from the Victorian times, just wasn't built to withstand this type of temperature," he said.
Operator Network Rail advised passengers to only travel if absolutely necessary.
"Extreme Heat: All services stopped. Do not come to the station," Avanti West Coast, which runs services from London to cities such as Liverpool, Manchester and Glasgow, said on Twitter.
Climate scientists said the once-unthinkable temperature in London was likely to become more common in coming years.
Sony Kapoor, a climate and macro-economic professor at European University Institute, said he had long thought that people underestimated the physical impacts of climate change in contemporary times. "But even I never thought we would see 40 degree Celsius in London in 2022," he said.
The arrival of a searing heatwave that first sparked wildfires across Europe before arriving in Britain has turned the spotlight on to "net zero" pledges made by the candidates running to replace Boris Johnson as prime minister.
After Johnson championed the move to net zero status when Britain held the United Nations COP26 climate change summit in 2021, some of the candidates to replace him have appeared more lukewarm and rated other challenges facing the country as their priority.
After Tuesday's heat, the Met Office said the temperature would fall on Wednesday, however it warned there could be heavy thunderstorms.
More:
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/after-warmest-night-britain-braces-record-temperature-2022-07-19/
"Research conducted here at the Met Office has demonstrated that it's virtually impossible for the UK to experience 40C in an undisrupted climate but climate change driven by greenhouse gases has made these extreme temperatures possible," Research conducted by who, when, and how?
"Network Rail tweeted a number of pictures showing large bends and kinks in rail tracks." Are those rails made of lead?
"Climate scientists said the once-unthinkable temperature in London was likely to become more common in coming years." Climate scientists say, but give one name
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3da09c No.16764764
>>16753358
That crane is mobile, on treads. I can tell by the wider boom and the big counterweights
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4c9878 No.16764773
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4c9878 No.16764785
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3da09c No.16765067
>>16753808
<contribute to the plausibility that taller cranes were used to demolish in the Fall and that these were replaced or modified such that the cranes would not appear above the height of the buildings during Christmas week
I agree, those big tower cranes are expensive and once the building has been made low enough the tower units can go elsewhere and mobile ones brought in, Here's a mobile crane working in Bishopsgate, London
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3da09c No.16765628
>>16754392
Please see"
>>16719993 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
Those tower cranes are not installed overnight. Perhaps that August night the structure was filly assembled onsite but power not yet connected?
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fa237c No.16766154
>>16764764
Noice observ.
>>16765067
So plausible, yes. And perhaps AFTER 22-DEC-2013 these cranes became unlit or moved from site; which would help explain the lack of red lights in the Q pics where Chadwick's pic shows there were cranes above height of the surrounding buidings. The gap in Cahdwick's pic, and others that week, showed the gap. This all hangs together, specualtively, and all we would need is a pic or somesuch to indicate and reifnorce within that time interval.
Could imagine making changes on site, removing cranes or lowering them with lights off or disconnected, prior to the immediate days surrounding Christmas/NYE.
Kewel that this line of thought brings us back toward Christmas Day (and possibly toward but not on NYE). Feels like the time interval been drawn tighter now.
We may not find the pictorial evidence needed, but now we know clearly what we might find if we come across it.
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3da09c No.16766354
Helicopter crashes into crane on London tower, kills two
By Michael Holden, Brenda Goh 16 January 2013
LONDON (Reuters) - A helicopter crashed into a crane on top of one of Europe’s tallest residential blocks on Wednesday, killing two people as it burst into flames and spiralled down into rush-hour traffic close to the Houses of Parliament in central London.
Police said there was nothing to suggest a terrorism link to the crash on a foggy morning on the south bank of the River Thames, less than a mile from Britain’s parliament, its secret services headquarters and the site of a new U.S. embassy.
In parliament, later in the day, Prime Minister David Cameron said helicopter flights over a city with an increasing number of huge skyscrapers needed to be carefully examined.
“There was a big bang and bits started showering down, then there was an explosion down the road,” said truck driver Ray Watts whose vehicle was hit by falling debris.
“We saw the fireball down there and the smoke. We didn’t know what way to run because there were bits coming down everywhere.”
Witnesses said the helicopter hit a crane on top of the as-yet unoccupied 185-metre (200-yard) high cylindrical block - The Tower, One St George Wharf - spun out of control, fell to the ground and burst into flames, setting nearby buildings alight.
Wreckage was strewn across roads close to Vauxhall train station, a major transport hub near the south bank of the River Thames, which was packed with thousands of commuters at the time of the incident shortly after 0800 GMT.
A Reuters reporter at the scene said tangled bits of crane could be seen hanging off the side of the tower, the top of which was still shrouded by low cloud an hour after the crash.
“It is something of a miracle that this was not many, many times worse given the time of day that this happened,” police Commander Neil Basu told reporters. The fire service said it had rescued one man from a burning car.
Basu said the helicopter was believed to be flying from Redhill, south of the capital, to Elstree, home to famous British film studios north of London, but had been diverted to a heliport near the crash site.
The metropolitan police later confirmed it was a scheduled commercial flight.
The pilot, named as 50-year-old Peter Barnes, was killed. There were no passengers, the police said. Another man, 39-year-old Matthew Wood, was found dead near the wreckage. Five others were taken to hospital for minor injuries and seven were treated at the scene.
The helicopter involved was an Italian-made twin-engined AgustaWestland 109, the company’s best selling VIP corporate helicopter, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Edmir Pishtar, who was in a van outside the site, said he spoke to the operator who was about to get into the crane cab.
“He was literally shaking because he was getting ready to climb into the crane and he was late,” Pishtar said.
Roads around the area including a route over the Thames were closed off, and bus and rail services were affected.
More:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-helicopter-crash-idUKBRE90F0EY20130116
This bit from the BBC:
The Civil Aviation Authority said a warning about the crane involved in the crash had been issued to pilots in October and again on 7 January.
But it confirmed that red aviation warning lights on tall structures only need to be turned on at night - and not during bad weather in daylight hours - because they are not visible in fog or low cloud.
The rules mean the period defined as night would have ended about 30 minutes before the crash.
Where the rules on crane lighting every changed? Where flight paths and minimum altitudes changed instead?
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b52457 No.16767219
>>16766154
Re the red lights: Are they a constant red light? Or can they be a slow flashing?
I think the subject came up in the discussion of the red lights atop or behind the MILLBANK bldg to explain why a red light is seen in one picture but not seen in another of the EMB pics.
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b52457 No.16767234
>>16767219
Well I guess that’s a dumb question re the cranes at least because anons would have already mentioned any differences in the EMB/LISA pics re the number of crane lights seen.
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3da09c No.16767246
>>16767234
Not a dumb question at all. To my knowledge the red lights are constant, but I am not experienced in UK construction regulations. I have to go with the crane lights don't flash.
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b52457 No.16767266
>>16749161
Well, this pic (14DEC2013) is definitely a Q match for ROT1 which shows the (2) red lights of the cranes behind LondonEye.
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fa237c No.16767268
>>16767219
>>16767266
https://www.caa.co.uk/
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fa237c No.16767276
>>16754319
NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423
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fa237c No.16767284
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b52457 No.16767292
>>16749161
>>16767266
>>16767276
Behind LEye. Those cranes match.
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fa237c No.16767295
>>16767276
>>16767276
NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423
Exposure lightened.
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b52457 No.16767299
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fa237c No.16767304
>>16767292 amd >>16767299
Right on. Fantastic use of that proxy linked to ROT1. Love it.
What do you think of the halfmast flag? >>16749161
We have red crane lights behind The Eye but not at the same time there appeared to be no red lights near 18 Albert Embankment. None.
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fa237c No.16767309
>>16767304
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/designated-days-for-union-flag-flying
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3da09c No.16767324
>>16754392
I see one crane in both >>16754291 (NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847) and >>16754319 (NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423) (second pics enlarged I spot the white floodlight and the red light at the end of the boom, look carefully over the left-most streetlight)
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fa237c No.16767332
>>16747587
Three photos, prolly close in time, show no flags over Westminster Palace.
https://www.businessinsider.com/flags-fly-half-mast-london-terror-attack-victims-westminster-houses-parliament-2017-3
Perhaps we can find another proxy that captured other flags half-masted near the site/s within camera frames of the Q pics?
Reference:
https://www.businessinsider.com/flags-fly-half-mast-london-terror-attack-victims-westminster-houses-parliament-2017-3
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fa237c No.16767344
>>16767324
>>16767324
The red circled areas? IDK.
The white circle is where would expect to see at least one of the cranes in area of interest on Albert Embankment, yes?
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3da09c No.16767348
>>16767344
Affirmative, the red circled areas. There's a crane there
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fa237c No.16767357
>>16767348
Can you "map" it to one of the pics upbread that show cranes in the area? This is progress, certainly. The location may be a bit too far from the target area but this is already close to finding more than we knew we had, I think.
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fa237c No.16767381
>>16767348
What is perplexing is the presence of red crane lights in other areas than the part of the Albert Embankment near the pink/ purple building. We know there were cranes there, on 22-DEC-2013-T, based on Chadwick at the very least.
And there were other red crane lights just out of frame of the Q pics, as well.
>>16749161
Are we empty-handed for red crane lighrts in night shots of the target area? there might have been just one but I think there prolly were four. Certainly that one behind the old site of Hampton House - the gap in the riverfront buidings.
Maybe time to hunt in Jan 2014 for these red crane lights.
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fa237c No.16767384
>>16767381
By the way, that half-masted flag might have been in process of being raised or lowered and, then, not actually half-masted. The banner seems full of wind, too. Shows wind direction?
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3da09c No.16767403
>>16767357
Best guess would be these:
>>16748734, >>16752980
I'd like to rule out the one in far left of >>16704415 as too high
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b52457 No.16767410
>>16767304
>What do you think of the halfmast flag?
Would need to first establish it is their practice to leave said flag up during evening hours. These are usually lit by floodlight per custom.
If that flag is always flown, 24hrs, then I might start to think some VIP had passed away.
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3da09c No.16767429
Shutterstock, TinEye says first found 28 April, 2014
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/view-vauxhall-bridge-center-london-night-189181721?
Two cranes to far right, looks like hoarding on those buildings demolished for the Corniche
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3da09c No.16767481
https://www.mrsmithworldphotography.com/colour-photographs-of-london-landmarks/millbank-tower
This is #6 in the set
Tineye first found 24 Dec, 2015
Four, maybe five cranes behind the Millbank Tower. One crane with horizntal boom visible in Vauxhall to left of St George Tower
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2b0e5f No.16767498
>>16767219
Tall building & cranes etc are required to have red anti-collision lights. These are similar to the flashing red anti-collision lights fitted to aircraft.
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b52457 No.16768134
>>16754392
>Having taken this dig as far as it seems possible, at this time, I am going to drop the crane and purple-building dig and turn to other possible refinements
I was just getting caught up. Could anon please give a short synopsis of the crane dig so far?
Not sure if anons have already noticed it but anon’s modification of ROT1 brings out what seems to be a red light (picrel) not seen in the original. Is that a crane?
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89794b No.16768231
3 candidates left to replace Boris Johnson in the UK.
All Claus Schwab puppets ….
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b52457 No.16768602
>>16767498
Thx fren. Appreciate the input.
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b52457 No.16768747
>>16767344
So if the lights are on a long slow flash these two pics may show why an apparent red crane light is seen in one pic and not another. See also the red light atop MILLBANK (or that tall round bldg behind it?). There in one pic but not in the other.
If we think on a string of random slow blinking Christmas lights, there might be times when we see most or all lit. Of course the professional pics with even a minimal time lapse should probly catch them all. But a quick snap photographer taking surveillance pics in quick sequence might catch one or more crane lights/building lights in the darkened moment if slow flashing as our fren below has said. >>16767498
Some food for thought. It does explain the unlit red MILLBANK roof light in one? of the EMB pics.
And see this stock pic with what appears one crane light unlit. See how you can still make out current ripples in the water? The long exposure pics blur this out. >>16767481
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b52457 No.16769231
>>16748013
>Could Anons help confirm the date take for each?
Well, speaking of just the 25DEC Getty pic only (which btw is 1 of 4 consecutive pics at sunset) I can only say that the Christmas village lights not being lit or populated, as that other open sauce pic (with the flag at half mast) shows the stalls lit and with people about, and it being sunset (not middle of the night) seems to confirm it is Christmas Day. No people and no lights at a time when the Christmas Village on the South Bank should be bustling.
As for the other, if anon has already looked at the meta data on the pic and can’t find moar, then this anon surely doesn’t have abilities beyond yours.
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b52457 No.16769361
>>16719993
>Four on 10-AUG-2013-T
The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, I had to enlarge the image to see it standing there
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-london-england-uk-10th-august-2013-view-from-the-golden-jubilee-bridge-59174399.html?
Again, watch the water. Observe the chop? Likely not a time lapse pic when you can see it in detail like that. So just my theory, it could be the pic captured the crane with its light in the ‘off’ phase flashing.
Nao all we need is a nice long vid showing crane lights with a slow flashing. I seem to recall a long vid out there of a barge going up river. Unfortunately, when we view many of the vids we do, we are looking for something entirely different. Ugh. I dread tryna scare up that vid.
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2b0e5f No.16769475
>>16768602
More info on building anti-collision lights.
https://www.wetraobstructionlight.com/tall-buildings/
https://www.wetraobstructionlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ICAO-Annex-14.pdf
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3da09c No.16770543
Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16695651, >>16695655, >>16696348, >>16696361, >>16696367, >>16696371, >>16696377 The DUMONT
>>16695851, >>16696278, >>16696407, >>16720242 Camelford House, 87-90 Albert Embankment
>>16696244, >>16696248 Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel 18 Albert Embankment, London SE1 7TJ, 1-AUG-2012-P vid of the two bridges over Thames, camera vantage The Eye (video)
>>16696414, >>16696415 Vauxhall SV images for 2012, 2013, 2019. Reference
>>16696455 Peninsula Heights Apartments, 93 Albert Embankment. The cranes in 22-DEC-2013-T are lit up on top
>>16696534 GE-07-2013-T (3D buildings overlayed)
>>16696573 Additional candidates for pink/ purple lit building?
>>16696609 Should not lose sight of the fact that most of the candidates for the pink/purple coloured building also reinforce the pre-2015-2016 conclusion UK Anons are working with for dating the Q pics
>>16696831, >>16696840 New Years Eve 31-DEC-2013-T videos for elevated night time views of the Embankments
>>16696954 NYE 31-DEC-2013-T via BBC One
>>16697024, >>16697063 Stock photos, various years
>>16704118, >>16704257, >>16720353 Riverbank Plaza Hotel, 18 Albert Embankment London SE1 7SP with obvious exterior lighting
>>16704262 2011, Crowne Plaza and Riverbank Plaza hotels
>>16747440, >>16747575 24London open sauce photo (nicknamed "Purple Sister" re LisaMI6) vid mark 1 minute https://youtu.be/eDzV7cMRvHM?t=63 Purple building lit, two crans at Vauxhall, shroud at Westminster tower
>>16747587 Moar points of interest in comparison between open sauce pics and LisaMI6
>>16747671 Pic taken from Millbank Tower: Note that the gap in the row of waterfront buldings had not yet appeared at the time of this pic. Also the Crowne Plaza had not yet undergone rennovations. And 18 Albert Embankment, the building with the 3-sided waterfront, had not been rennovated
>>16747726, >>16747742, >>16747754, >>16747766 Various SV images along the Millbank (A3212) provide a view of the other side of the river which is obstructed by treecover
>>16747778, >>16747901 Good view of the area of interest on Albert embankment, pre-demolition
>>16748013, >>16748035, >>16748204, >>16748313 Getty stock photo, 25-DEC-2013-T. Close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London
>>16753143, >>16753358, >>16753413, 16753504, >>16764764, >>16766154 Comparison pics, future site of Corniche building Google Earth GE-MAR-2012 Imagery Date: 8/2/2011 & GE-JUL-2013 Imagery Date: 18-JUL-2013 View Location: 51°29'27.88" N 0°07'18.01" W
>>16747817, >>16753504, >>16755363 Comparison: Google Earth JUL-2013 Streetview AUG-2013, checking for hoarding installations
>>16753687, >>16753747, >>16753808 SV-JUL-2014 The Corniche gap
>>16754392, >>16754461, >>16754678, >>1654723, >>1654735, >>16765628, >>16767324 18 Albert Embankment (Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel) glass facade and coloured floodlighting
>>16755875 Crowne Plaza hotel to open on Albert Embankment, 27 September 2013 https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7106
>>16755895, 16755898, >>16755927, >>16755937, >>16755950 Albert Embankment: rooftop club overlooking Parliament approved 7 August 2016
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3da09c No.16770545
Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16704118, >>16704289 Signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics
>>16704327 At least six cranes around Dec 2013
>>16704415, >>16704460 22-DEC-2013-T Daytime pic over looking TATTERSHALL CASTLE, 4 to 5 cranes visible over Vauxhall
>>16705019, >>16705021 At least three [3] cranes lit in night pic of 28-SEP-2013-T
>>16719993, >>16742328 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16742364, >>16742373 Cap of N. Chadwick pic of Thames skyline 28-SEP-2013-T Three cranes at Vauxhall, No pink/purple lit building, apparently
>>16747634 Closeup of the Albert Embankment as cap;tured by Chadwick 22-DEC-2013, daytime, at least four cranes at Vauxhall
>>16748734, >>16748997, >>16767403 TinEye says first found 6 December 2014. Notice the cranes on left. The nearest St. George Tower has big white floodlight, the one left has white flood and a red for the two boom sections
>>16749161, >>16767266, >>16767292 ROT1 Match: Mike Kemp, Date created: 14 December, 2013: UK - London - South Bank View during the busy Christmas season towards the London Eye and Westminster. Cranes behind London Eye
>>16749877, >>16753025 Shutterstock 134752082: TineEye says first found 31 August, 2013 St George Tower not complete, but lower floors have the lights on No demolition for Corniche or Dumont
>>16753525, >>16753556 Four cranes, GE-AUG-2013 and SV-AUG-2013
>>16765628 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16766354, >>16767268, >>16769475 January 2013, helicopter collides with crane at St George Tower. Civil Aviation Authority confirmed red aviation warning lights on tall structures only need to be turned on at night - and not during bad weather in daylight hours - because they are not visible in fog or low cloud
>>16754266 Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013-T Up river to Westminster Bridge https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816144 And a closelup modified to enhance view of the cranes and buiding profiles
>>16767324, >>16767344, >>16767348, >>16767357, >>16767381, >>1676403, NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 cranes
>>16767429 Shutterstock, TinEye says first found 28 April, 2014 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/view-vauxhall-bridge-center-london-night-189181721? Two cranes to far right, looks like hoarding on those buildings demolished for the Corniche
>>16767481 #6 in the set, Tineye first found 24 Dec, 2015. Four, maybe five cranes behind the Millbank Tower. One crane with horizntal boom visible in Vauxhall to left of St George Tower
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3da09c No.16770552
Updated Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16704568 Image with two details that distinguish the scene from the Q-pics re CH
>>16704672 08-DEC-2012-T Corinthia Hotel and Blue Boris Bikes
>>16704822 Pics of the Yellow bike taken by same photographer on 22-DEC-2013. Both show one wheel IN FRONT of a post, Q pics show the wheel BEHIND that same post - with the exception of CH3
>>16704936 SV-May-2012 showing the pedestrian island
>>16705073, >>16720953 Yellow Bike SV images parked with one wheel in front of the post, SV-MAY-2014-P
>>16734442, >>16734449 1-MAR-2014-T Corinthia Hotel, blue Boris Bikes, Spamalot at the Playhouse Theatre, and that little green with white cross First Aid sign or whatever it is on the pole
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3da09c No.16770559
Other References Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732209, >>16732538, >>16733324, >>16734100 Reference pic to show the distance from Hungerford Bridge to TATTERSHALL CASTLE 25-OCT-2014-T
>>16734821 24-OCT-2015-T Post-Refit TATTERSHALL CASTLE, RAF Memorial is dark
>>16747168 8-NOV-2016-T Link to 21 second vid showing darkened RAF Memorial https://www.bitchute.com/video/NgOsVFAEw9Pd/
>>16747275 OCT-2011, Reference, view from footbridge similair to Q pics, especially LisaMi6. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mt7jBASQ5LvO/
>>16747303 Vid, comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bzft57cyoYTI/
>>16754564 Picadilly Circus Snowglobe: Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
>>16756137 December 2013, the Weather closes in
>>16756217 View from the Pentagon, NIOC
>>16754281, >>16754319, >>16767276 NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 with modified versions to bring out the treecover which obscures the view of Albert Embankment
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3da09c No.16770571
Notables are NOT Endorsements
passing 320
#47
>>16720935, >>16721106 Anons notices the constellations visible despite city lights in 2018 Alamy stock pic
>>16724486 Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16724487 Counting Cranes Bun
>>16724490 Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732365 Man acquitted re Air India bombing has been shot in Canada
>>16732851 From General Research: World Health Organization Officially States That There Are More Than Two Biological Genders
>>16749548 Request for Anons: Please show the following video (Winter Wonderland) to a normie. The purpose is to test this video for ease of comprehension
>>16770543 Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16770545 Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16770552 Updated Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16770559 Other References Bun
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4a489b No.16770726
Rumble embed. Click thumbnail to play. Hey UK anons,
Devin Nunes announced on podcast last night Truth Social is open in the UK, tell all your friends and family. July 19, 2022
Then the go on to Podcast title
SPECIAL EDITION: Exposing the Jan. 6 Witch Hunt
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4a489b No.16770746
>>16770726
Heres the Rumble link since the thumbnail didnt show to Devin Nunes Truth Social open in UK
https://rumble.com/embed/v1a9113/?pub=4
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fa237c No.16772090
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fa237c No.16772111
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16772090
Suggest that the vid be run in repeat mode to take advantage of the fades continuously rotating.
Here is text from description under the vid.
Jul 20, 2022 Two moments in time as view from the Golden Jubilee Bridge over the River Thames, London, UK. A night view of the Albert Embankment captured 10-AUG-2013 compared with a day view captured 22-DEC-2013.
This area of the riverside underwent re-development beginning in 2013. Cranes appeared on the skyline. A few buildings were demolished and this left a gap in the riverside buildings along the Albert Embankment. This gap can just be made out in the 22-DEC-2013 photograph.
Red safety lights on the cranes appeared in the night view of this scene. The booms of the cranes were discernible during daylight.
Note the erection of a new tower, also, with its crane's appearance. More redevelopment activity took place in subsequent years.
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fa237c No.16772210
>>16769475
TY Anon.
>>16769231
Yes, the Getty 25-DEC-2013 pic has both content and metadata that indicates Christmas Day prior to sunset, as you deduced.
The halfmasted flag is interdasting because, so far, have not found flag treatment of that kind on sites closer to Westminister Palace where it would be expected if a significant British death had been acknowledged. Also interdasting because of the repeated use of full flown flags in several other Q drops. Might be something, might be nothing.
>>16768747
The flashing light solution to the apparent contradiction of 22-DEC-2013 would have to rely on muiltiple red lights on multiple cranes being in sync and off at the same moment. Now, that might account for 1 red light, I think, but what are the odds of all the red lights being off at the moments (multiple pics) that scene had been captured? Plausibe and possible, I supposed, but highly unlikely, I would speculate.
Of course, such a factor could have combined with the treecover to obscure the red lights on cranes that had been energized re safety requirements.
The 10-AUG-2013 pic is not Q match in terms of the brightly lit pink/ purple building. So there clearly were variables in play regarding these bits of pictorial evidence. Note that 18 Albert Embankment was not being redeveloped during the AUG-DEC-2013 interval. Its neighbours were - the Crown Plaza on one side and Hampton House and the other buildings that would be demolished on the other side. So at that time the crane that would have appeared later during the addition of floors ontop of 18 Albert Embankment would not have been in its place yet. But the crane behind Hampton House and the two cranes farther in the distance were in place at that time.
Need some evidence of these cranes being present, and sporting the red lights, subsequent to 22-DEC-2013 so as to confirm that such where present, but unseen, in the Q pics. But, if we find evidence they were not in the skyline, for whatever reason, during an interval after 22-DEC-2013, then, we'd have reconciled the apparent discrepancy.
>>16768134
You are quite right to point out that spot in the Q pic, fren. Tantalizing, isn't it? That could be red light. Please map it to a spot on other pics for comparison. We know the crane booms were NOT stationery, but can we place that spot in the Q pic to a relative spot in open source pics? That is, would that spot be within range of one of the 4 cranes that we've counted in the 22-DEC-2013 pic? There may be proxies that help with that, IDK.
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fa237c No.16772271
>>16767481
For clarity for new eyes, St Geroge Tower is the tower in the background left of frame. Its full name is St George Wharf Tower. Address: 1 St George Wharf, London SW8 2DU, UK.
The area around it also was redeveloped starting around the time of the Q pics and very intensively during several years afterward.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4881553,-0.1281466,3a,56.9y,175.48h,100.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqHza8CpXKRXEotbxR1St2w!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16772293
>>16772271
>>16772271
Sorry if my text was confusing. St George Wharf Tower appeared in background left of frame in the pic posted earlier >>16767481
https://www.mrsmithworldphotography.com/colour-photographs-of-london-landmarks/millbank-tower
It appeared right of frame in the pics I just posted >>16772271 .
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fa237c No.16772437
New Year Day parade, 01-JAN-2014-T
https://youtu.be/8UF4_CNrpTU
Same day, Piccadilly Circus.
https://youtu.be/x9miY2kAE3s
Nother, American cheerleaders participated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BAdPjDBvU
American marching bands too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7rQ01r16MQ
Nother, showed different camera positions
https://youtu.be/HVbNADlZ7e8
Piccadilly again
https://youtu.be/TV4qFK0xJkg
Very good picture of the weather conditions.
https://youtu.be/GueEXUWCuL4
Roads closed from Piccadilly Circus to Parliament Square. AND WEATHER REPORT at mark 2:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPvhkVlF-ZM
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fa237c No.16772512
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Christmas LONDON weather, 2013
https://youtu.be/wrGZQw5O49c
Forecast Christmas Eve to 27-DEC-2013
https://youtu.be/ViCDomVKanw
Christmas in London 22-DEC-2013-P
https://youtu.be/3urMq6clInc
Christmas Week events/weather, 20-DEC-2013-P
20-DEC-2013
https://youtu.be/arz_OY56b_k
21-22-DEC-2013
https://youtu.be/oHdLGZX4Ey0
Tidal surge DEC 2013
https://youtu.be/NA9F89Q2ons
DEC 2013 Weather reviewed
https://youtu.be/RDR8CbuOU5E
https://youtu.be/gD8nq5IgosU
https://youtu.be/8NUL8hJzESo
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3da09c No.16772531
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. I don't know what to make of this one:
Southbank Christmas Markets London Christmas Gift Shopping
"Roberts London" 14-DEC-2013-P (Cannot verify if taken on , no headphones here so can't hear a word he says)
Run Time 8:22
At the 8 minute mark he looks down the Thames and we see the St George lit and then one red crane light.
He fast forwards the video a great deal so I can't tell you anything about the Christmas shops, if there's a glimpse of TATTERSHALL CASTLE, or much else
I did see the Eye lit in blue, the hoarding over Westminster, and that flag seen half mast position before, but this shot shows all the way up the pole
Video at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRA9SCOi3y0
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3da09c No.16772538
>>16772531 (me)
This one better
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fa237c No.16772598
Christmas LONDON weather, 2013
https://youtu.be/wrGZQw5O49c
Forecast Christmas Eve to 27-DEC-2013
https://youtu.be/ViCDomVKanw
Christmas in London 22-DEC-2013-P
https://youtu.be/3urMq6clInc
Christmas Week events/weather, 20-DEC-2013-P
20-DEC-2013
https://youtu.be/arz_OY56b_k
21-22-DEC-2013
https://youtu.be/oHdLGZX4Ey0
Tidal surge DEC 2013
https://youtu.be/NA9F89Q2ons
DEC 2013 Weather reviewed
https://youtu.be/RDR8CbuOU5E
https://youtu.be/gD8nq5IgosU
https://youtu.be/8NUL8hJzESo>>16772531
>flag seen half mast position before, but this shot shows all the way up the pole
Gud eye, fren.
Southbank Centre Winter Festival operational days, as far as I have figured:
01-DEC-2013
24-DEC-2013
But I think the open air market operated longer.
16-NOV-2013
10-JAN-2014
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3da09c No.16772611
Christmas in London 2013
6-DEC-2013-P (or T, can't hear the audio on my end)
Run time 17:34
Piccadilly Snow Globe at 2:10
White capped funnel on TATTERSHALL CASTLE at 3:52, then swings to show RAF Memorial lit, hoarding at Westminster, purple building
Victoria Embankment at 14:15, hoarding on Westminster, two very bright white lights high and to the left (plane?) then pans left, Millbank Lights, two cranes over Vauxhall, all the way back to a blue London Eye
Many times the video is rather blurred and there is an annoying pop-up wanting a log-in via google or such
video at:
https://ok.ru/video/3634365838
video would not embed for me
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fa237c No.16772641
>>16772611
>https://ok.ru/video/3634365838
Caps from about the 4 minute mark.
No red lights on cranes in target area.
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fa237c No.16772733
>>16772641
>>16772611
Noice find, fren. Very noice.
This vid captured the Albert Embankment skyline more than once. As per the cap in prev post >>16772641 the red lights were not recorded; but later they were. Interdasting.
Also, what struck me immediately was the amount and thickness of green treecover in this vid. It did not seem to match the Q pics very well on that point. Could it be that heavy winds between this recording and Q pics blew enough leaves off to make a noticeable difference in the view of the skyline?
The camera in this vid moved farther toward the centre of the footbridge so it did not line up well with the LisaMI6 position. Still it is close enough to make useful comparisons.
Millbank Tower lights do not match, which may add more weight to notion that the pattern in Q pics is a good marker for a distinctive time interval, ie Christmas Eve/ Day to boxing day.
The Speaker's apartments were unlit in this vid which matches LisaMI6. But not so re the RAF Memorial lighting.
The TATT's lighting seemed a good Q match.
The pink/ purple building in this vid was recorded very clearly. It matches the vid we already have that showed camera drive right up to that building on Albert Embankment at night. The shot in this vid, however, is good to compare with LisaMI6 on this score; the bright building is only just out of camera frame of the Q pic. Just at the edge. Also, this vid captured the time on Big Ben's clockface, unlike Lisa.
AND importantly for our dig on the cranes and the red lights; this vid recording no flalshing red lights over the target area; steady red lights. From what I can tell, only 2 red lights = 2 cranes in the night skyline in early DEC-2013.
There was a pulsing red light on building behind The Eye but that pulsing effect may have been due to auto adjustments on the camera. That position does not appear to be on a crane but rather on the building. Will need to compare more carefully with proxies and with Q pics..
And at that point in this vid, the red lights over the target area near the pink/ purple building also seemed to be gone. This could be due the camera adjusting itself. When those lights were visible, no flashing.
Did not spot the prominent Flag on that side of the river. That might indicate this was routinely lowered at night?
The night sky showed overcast so could not make out stars above.
The tide seemed on the high side re TATT gangway and HISP height to shore.
Observs, Anons?
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3da09c No.16772807
>>16772641
I can one through the spokes of the Eye, two more over Vauxhall, The video is rather poor quality throughout
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3da09c No.16772810
>>16772733
<pulsing red light on building behind The Eye but that pulsing effect may have been due to auto adjustments on the camera. That position does not appear to be on a crane but rather on the building
The had me hung up for a minute as well. Not sure if pulsing light on the building, the railway, or just something like a tree branch in the way as he moves
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3da09c No.16772824
>>16772733
>Could it be that heavy winds between this recording and Q pics blew enough leaves off to make a noticeable difference in the view of the skyline?
Forgot to ask:
The heavy winds on 23 December that closed Winter Wonderland and dig bad things to the Piccadilly Snow globe? Many breads ago it was posted what kind of trees those are along the Embankment, how tough are they?
I did not catch the time on the clock tower, good thing there's a lot of anons can go over these vids to spot details others missed
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fa237c No.16773003
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16772611
Here's short vid of snippets from the original and much longer version.
Original
https://ok.ru/video/3634365838
Shorter viersion 06-DEC-2013-P.
https://youtu.be/3ESHoO1cpl8
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b84aa9 No.16774018
>>16770726
Thanks anon.
Just filtered out the noise and saw your post.
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fa237c No.16776457
Based on the pictorial evidence, there were cranes on the Albert Embankment skyline between AUG-2013 and 22-DEC-2013. The work for which these cranes were present did continue for years afterward as per the gap in the riverside buildings in that area; as per the erection of new buildings within that gap; as per the various images from open sources, including GE and SV for several years. The narrowed interval of Christmas week has not been contradicted.
The pictorial evidence includes a video recording in early DEC-2013 which was shot at night and captured red lights in the locations of the cranes in the area of interest near 18 Albert Embankment which has been identified as the pink/ purple building in the Q pics of the Victoria Embankment. The still photos better captured these red lights than did the video recordings which at times showed the lights present, when the images were very sharply focussed on the distance, and not present, when the images were more blurred. These recordings, or clips as per the shorter version recently posted, were taken on the same night.
The Q pics did not capture the distant skyline of the Albert Embankment in a focussed way; that part of the Q pics was quite blurred and partially obscured behind treecover. Interdastingly, the comparisons between the early weeks of the Christmas Timeframe and the Q pics suggests that the treecover was lighter, that the branches were burdened with less foilage ion the Q pics than in early DEC-2013 images, for example. This may be explained by the heavy winds and stormy weather recorded prior to Christmas week 2013.
The tidal and lunar evidence also points to the week of Christmas as the likely time interval for these Embankment pics. The 06-DEC-2013-P video shows a high tide in the darkness and can be favourably compared with the tidal indications in the Q pics, also. Was this recording made in late NOV-2013? That may be plausible.
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3da09c No.16776596
>>16773003
Yep, there are the cranes.
Best at the zooming of the still pic starting at the 2 minute mark. Faint, but there is a red light of a crane over the lit-up Riverbank Plaza Hotel and another one to the left just peeking out above the top right hand corner of that other building.
I seent it!
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3da09c No.16776956
Anons knew
General Research #21162 >>16776759
AP Highlights 'Ukraine's History Of Rampant Corruption' After US Lawmaker Slams Zelensky
Days after Politico reported that Republicans are freaking out because one of their own, Rep. Victoria Spartz, slammed the government of Ukraine and called for "proper oversight of critical infrastructure and delivery of weapons and aid," the Associated Press (aggregated by NPR, no less) has joined this very out-of-character departure from prevailing narratives peddled by mainstream outlets.
In short - it seems that MSM outlets agree that perhaps it's unwise to send unchecked billions in weapons and aid to a notoriously corrupt nation whose president, Volodomyr Zelensky, just fired their equivalent of their CIA director and Attorney General while accusing them of treason.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ap-highlights-ukraines-history-rampant-corruption-after-us-lawmaker-slams-zelensky
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3da09c No.16777347
Russia, Russia, Russia lost traction, must try to maintain ghost of credibility? ...Anons KNOW
General Research #21163 >>16777316
21 Jul, 2022 22:54
British spy chief reveals top priority
The UK intelligence puts “more effort into China” than any other field of their work, head of MI6 Richard Moore has said
British intelligence is now focusing its efforts on China, Richard Moore, the head of the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), also known as MI6, said on Thursday. Understanding the way Beijing pursues its strategic goals is now one of the most complex challenges British intelligence is facing, he told the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado, US.
“We are putting more effort into China. We now devote more effort to China than any other single subject,” Moore told the forum, adding that there is “a growing recognition” in London of the “threats” China supposedly poses. According to MI6, understanding China is now a more pressing task for the intelligence than fighting terrorism.
MI6 “never had any illusions whatsoever about Communist China,” he said, but admitted that, for British intelligence, the Chinese systems appear to still be “pretty opaque.” His agency has little problem understanding Chinese President Xi Jinping's “strategic intent,” but “if yougo beneath that strategy, in terms of how they implement, how they organize… that’s a black box,” the MI6 chief said.
The role of his organization is to help “British ministers and policymakers to understand that so they can navigate this really complex, difficult relationship with the Chinese.”
Moore also added that Beijing is supposedly closely following the developments in Ukraine and argued that the West should continue to support Kiev so that it could “negotiate from a position of significant strength.” Otherwise, Beijing could see it as Western “weakness” and possibly attack Taiwan, Moore claimed.
His words came amid the ongoing tension between Beijing and Washington over Taiwan. Beijing considers the island that has been self-governed since the end of the Chinese civil war in 1949 to be part of its own territory under the One China policy.
The US, which says it is committed to the One China policy, maintains strong unofficial ties with Taipei, selling weapons to the island and tacitly encouraging its push for sovereignty. China has repeatedly slammed this behavior as a provocation and interference into its internal affairs.
More recently, Beijing issued a warning to Washington in the wake of a report by the Financial Times about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s alleged plans to take a congressional delegation to Taiwan next month. If the visit does take place, it would have far-reaching consequences for bilateral relations between the two nations, China warned.
https://www.rt.com/news/559425-british-spy-chief-top-priority/
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a29957 No.16780506
>>16772824
>>>16772824
>Many breads ago it was posted what kind of trees those are along the Embankment, how tough are they?
The trees along the Embankment are the ubiquitous LONDON PLANE TREE, a Sycamore.
Found an awsome map of allthe trees in London. See cap
https://apps.london.gov.uk/street-trees/
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a29957 No.16780964
>>16772807
>>16749161
Well we may be able to firm up the not before bookend for ROT1 with TWO red cranes lights behind LONDON EYE as also seen in the open sauce pic on 14DEC. The vid circa 6DEC only has ONE red crane light behind LONDON EYE, so the 2nd was added sometime between 6 and 14DEC. Just 8 days.
Did we get a location on one or both of those cranes behind the Eye?
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2b0e5f No.16780983
>>16780506
>>16772824
The London Plane tree is pretty damn tough and can handle city pollution better than most other trees, and is resistant to disease.
It will handle most soil types and can cope with occasional floods and droughts.
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fa237c No.16780993
>>16780506
https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/valuing_londons_urban_forest_i-tree_report_final.pdf
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a29957 No.16781106
>>16780964
Sorry, just realized the original vid with just one crane behind the EYE was taken in late November.
But our first sauce for two cranes behind the EYE is still 14DEC to match the Q pic ROT1?
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fa237c No.16781139
Examples of tree coverage
https://www.westminsterconservatives.com/news/leaf-clearing
Autumn is here with the start of Westminster City Council's leaf clearing plan.
In Eccleston Square, Pimlico, work has been underway clearing up fallen leaves to ensure that our pavements are safe for pedestrians. It's a problem each year that the Council is well accustomed to dealing with.
Cllr Jacqui Wilkinson explains: "This vital work will continue throughout Westminster for the next four to six weeks during which time about 1,000 tonnes of leaves from our streets will be collected in addition to the usual levels of litter."
Mid-November
4-6 weeks
Mid-January
21-DEC-2009-T
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-night-london-at-victoria-embankment-51794422.html?imageid=C92D486E-5507-4B18-9A0C-2A122D71D9FD&p=167104&pn=1&searchId=83d2dc530d9240622c1cdaac0e6637a0&searchtype=0
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/D07C8P.html?imgt=0
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-victoria-embankment-london-england-united-kingdom-uk-136825961.html
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fa237c No.16781253
>>16781139
Victoria Embankment, New Years Eve crowds with Big Ben, evening, DEC-2013
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-england-london-victoria-embankment-new-years-eve-crowds-with-big-ben-149618625.html
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/JKBM29.html?imgt=0
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fa237c No.16781263
>>16781253
New Year's Eve, 2013 - T
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fa237c No.16781287
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fa237c No.16781300
>>16754319
Using NYEE-2013 stock photo as a proxy, the leaf coverage on the tree canopy over Victoria Embankment is a fairly good Q-match with LONDON2847 and ROT-1. So another means of confirming the time interval of Christmas week-NYE, post wind storm.
>>16754281
>>16781287
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fa237c No.16781344
>>16781300
Previous year, JAN-2013
https://youtu.be/wr5htJ5ebsE?t=206
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fa237c No.16781355
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fa237c No.16781408
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16780964 >>16781106
14-DEC-2013
2 Red lights/ 2 cranes behind The Eye.
ROT_1 does show two red lights, however, these might be on the ferris wheel. But those Q red lights are very near where there is a red light in video of 14-DEC-2013-P
See >>16773003
https://youtu.be/3ESHoO1cpl8
In the vid the red light seemed to pulse but this may be apparent rather than real; the camera's positioned changed and the wheel may also have rotated. But can't rule out that this red light flashed momentarily rather than continuously. Also not clear that it was on a crane, but maybe.
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fa237c No.16781455
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16781408
Interdasting vid re the re-development of Albert Embankment discussed.
https://youtu.be/Wgr-Pv-0Rt8?t=316
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a29957 No.16781649
>>16781408
>ROT_1 does show two red lights, however, these might be on the ferris wheel.
No. Sorry, but your vids you posted showed that red light both inside and outside the wheel of London Eye and in the same location (too much coincidence) as the two red lights seen in ROT1. You are forgetting your own sauce on 14DEC with 2 easily identifiable cranes in the same area as in the vid and in ROT1. That’s ridiculous for you to now say they could be on the London Eye. Never but never has any pic of LE shown any red lights on the pods. Ffs. Jesus.
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00613e No.16783231
>>16783226
wait. how do u delete?
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058f2b No.16783312
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3da09c No.16784670
>>16780964
>Did we get a location on one or both of those cranes behind the Eye?
January 31, 2013 Matthew Gibs
Building behind the Eye is Southbank Place
His pic shows crane next to St Goerge, a tall white one behind Southbank Place, and another one at the extreme left of the pic that to me looks like the boom is not yet complete. It's too tall for a mobile yet not quite as tall as the white one
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3da09c No.16784726
I can't be sure yet but the two cranes seen behind the Eye may be engaged in demolition of those buildings behind Southbank Place.
Daytime shot shows White-topped funnel of TATTERSHALL CASTLE in the foreground and older buildings
Night shot 2017 (lost the original sauce) shows all the new stuff
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3da09c No.16784803
>>16784670 (me)
And to make things more interesting:
Our favorite little tower at Westminster is not surrounded by hoarding.
Millbank Tower has a great many lights on.
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3da09c No.16785910
>>16747440
Looking at this image again, notice the two cranes behind the London Eye.
The building with the blue lights I don't have a name for yet, but that tells me the cranes we seek are further back then County Hall
Here we go again! Images when looking for one thing also capture something else of interest
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3da09c No.16786350
I think I have it figured out on the where
ROT1 shows two cranes behind London Eye >>16767295
Best view Mike Kemp 14-DEC-2013-T >>16749161
Look closer at the Kemp pic. The cranes appear to be finsihing the work on the Park Plaza Westminster Hotel. The other blue lighting to the side is the Park Plaza County Hall Hotel
I'll say Park Plaza Westminster, and its rounded shape, is the second of the two completed.
Now it's a matter of finding when construction completed and the cranes came down.
What if the bright light near the hub of the Eye is NOT the moon, but a crane floodlight, The red light at the end of the boom obscured but the Eye structure? Check out the crane floodlighting the building on the right side of the pic
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3da09c No.16786435
>>16786350 (me)
Scratch the hotels, completed by 2010
No idea if those cranes are installing rooftop air conditioning or what but the buildings had been finished before our targeted time frame
Park Plaza County Hall: Construction started 2005, completed 2007
https://www.emporis.com/buildings/159539/park-plaza-county-hall-london-united-kingdom
Park Plaza Westminster: Construction started 2007, completed 2010
https://www.emporis.com/buildings/159540/park-plaza-westminster-bridge-london-united-kingdom
I'm going to wonder off for a bit a sob quietly in a corner
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938b77 No.16786877
>>16786435
You are on target. It looked the same to me. Mebbe the cranes are behind the Park Plaza at URBANEST? Or near King’s Cross Theatre?
Right nao, we have a timeline of:
1 crane around 23NOV2013 and
2 cranes around 14DEC2014.
Not bad bookends. Just 21 days!
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938b77 No.16786891
>>16786435
>I'm going to wonder off for a bit a sob quietly in a corner
You’re doing a great job. Let’s look at those blue lights. They seem like they are roof lights lining the roof lines of two separate roofs with different shapes. Perhaps two sister buildings with the same lighting scheme? If we run a line from the center of the South Bank carousel…
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938b77 No.16786927
>>16786891
>>16786891
See how the blue roof lights on the right building have a curve and how the blue roof lights on the left are a straight roof line? See pic
Still have the urbanest in line. The cranes are either between those two hotels with blue roofline lights or at urbanest.
As for the white light in middle of LE possibly being white cab light of a crane with red crane light hidden? I’m game. Sure. Let’s tear it up. It would probly mean a third crane as it looks too far away from the other two cranes to be an operator’s cab for either of those.
Will just say this: It could be the Moon because that’s where it rises, in the East. But so what, right? I think we are all open to reconsidering the ‘’moon’. Unrelated to that but just a reminder- the 24LONDON pic which does show the 2 red crane lights behind LE also matches the MILLBANK building light pattern for LISA on CHRISTMAS DAY +/- 1. So we now have 2 sauces showing 2 red crane lights, one of them also a compelling match for MILLBANK as seen in LISA.
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fa237c No.16787231
06-DEC-2013-P [1 RED LIGHT]
14-DEC-2013-T [2 RED LIGHTS, CRANES]
25-DEC-2013-T [1 RED LIGHT]
24LONDON ??-DEC-2013-T [2 RED LIGHTS, CRANES]
ROT_1 ??-DEC-2013-T [2 RED LIGHTS]
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fa237c No.16787322
>>16781649
Starting with the observed evidence rather than with an idea or a theory, is the inductive approach. It's not better, it's not worse, but it is one of at least three ways to approach an investigation of a scene.
1. ROT_1 showed two red lights but it did not show cranes.
2. The red lights in ROT_1 appear very near where there is a single red light in video of 14-DEC-2013-P.
3. 06-DEC-2013-P vid showed a single red light. It did not show a crane.
4. Pictorial evidence shows two red lights which possibly were on cranes. Or on the ferris wheel. Or on buildings.
5. Pictorial evidence shows a single red light which possibly was on a crane. Or on a building.
Process of elimination might be applied with caution.
> You are forgetting your own sauce on 14DEC
Not forgotten. 14-DEC-2013 was specifically mentioned.
>That’s ridiculous for you to now say they could be on the London Eye.
The red lights in ROT_1 are evident but not so are cranes. Starting with the observed evidence in the camera frame, these lights, which have yet to be identified with certainty, could have been on cranes, buildings, or the ferris wheel.
Whether or not there is sufficient evidence outside of ROT_1 to rule out either of these possibilities, or to calculate odds so as to eliminate based on very low probability, is the point of the dig and of the analysis of what is dug up.
>Never but never has any pic of LE shown any red lights on the pods. Ffs. Jesus.
Not that you have seen, perhaps.
Your passion is commendable. Digging in by way of deduction or abduction is as valid as by induction. Mixing it up is usually how a scene can be squeezed to reveal more than we know.
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fa237c No.16787440
The flag pole near The Eye.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.504545,-0.11898,3a,75y,72.76h,113.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sp9UKVnbVN5j3etpTV5eRPg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dp9UKVnbVN5j3etpTV5eRPg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D97.90637%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16787526
Pic 1, no date assigned, but looks like 2013/2014.
Pic 2-4, no date, Flag pole near The Eye, Queen's Walk.
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fa237c No.16787620
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. 06-DEC-2013-P Night vid The Eye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRPNlRzCuw
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938b77 No.16788621
>>16787322
Anon, in your previous hard work in researching work near ‘urbanest’, was there a time when you saw only one crane and a later time when there might have been two cranes in that area? I recall you spending some time looking at that construction.
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938b77 No.16788698
>>16788621
Of course this won’t win us our prize but knowing exactly when 1 crane became 2 could be an easy piece to place based on anon’s previous work looking around the urbanest area construction. A piece which we would be remiss to place especially if it was easily done. Anon may already have the sauce which might date the placement of the 2nd crane as earlier than 14DEC. Does that help us get closer to dating the EMB pics? Well, not closer but with a great deal more of certainty for a ‘not before’ date-for the EMB Traf_cam pics at least.
I was surprised we did not do more counting of cranes toward the South as well. I think you anons had done a good job with this dig but had left it too soon.
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3da09c No.16789864
>>16786891
The straight blue lines are the roof of the Park Plaza County Hall hotel
The curved roof belongs to Park Plaza Westminster
Please see >>16786350 and >>16786435
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fa237c No.16791176
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Moon over Thames
https://youtu.be/kl2h-UVx5TI
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fa237c No.16791421
>>16791176
Moon seen through The Eye. Note position of moon/Eye within frame vs location of St Thomas Hospital on right side of frame. Note how the moon's position within frame is independent of buildings. Compare with view of moon over St Thomas Hospital after camera location changed as it travelled Victoria Embankment.
In this video, of AUG-2015, the night sky was captured with a camera that shifted its location along the River Thames. While the moon was quite full and shone very brightly, the camera did not capture many other lights above buildings or in vicinity of those rooftops where cranes might have been expected during that time in the redevelopment projects behind the riverside buildings. Now, there were not nearly as many projects in the area within camera frame as there were farther along toward Albert Embankment, but the general idea is well illustrated. If there were more dim lights in the sky, by comparison with the moon, these and the crnes that carried them prolly, not cerltainly, would have become obscured by the movement of the camera, the lense settings and auto adjustments, and by the overall brightness of the moon in the camera lense.
Compare that with the earlier vid/s of crane lights over the Albert Embankment, one of which showed the red lights/ cranes present in one clip but not in another even though all shot at by same camera on same night. This discrepancy was so noticiable that it raised in our discussion the possibility of flashing lights.At the moment the prospect of flashing lights synched across 3-4 locations within frame has diminished the likelihood of the camera having captured flashing or pulsating lights.
This vid can serve as a reference for various features, including those in the night sky, but is not direct evidence for the contents of ROT_1 and other EMB pics, in general.
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fa237c No.16791531
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fa237c No.16791636
>>16791176
Moon over Thames, 16-DEC-2014, London UK. (timelapsed)
https://youtu.be/t1ufG8oAPzI
Year after currently estimated time interval for EMB pics, however, big moon as seen from Victoria Embankment looking toward The Eye. Different time of night, too, perhaps, if the bright object in ROT_1 was the moon.
And there appear to be 2 red lights on cranes in the right side of frame, in approx location of the cranes discussed above by anons regarding projects behind the riverside facades. In this vid the camera was on a tripod for the timelapse; and the images were recorded as still photos and then compiled into a stream of images for the video. The dimmer lights vis-a-vis the other bright objects, including the moon, still came out more clearly prolly as a consequence of photos v vdeo and camera adjustments set rather than on auto, and so forth.
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3da09c No.16791771
>>16786877
The video from 6 December a valiant anon was kind enough to shorten and post as >>16773003 looks like one red light on a crane behind the Eye. Would that not shorten the time for the appearance of the second crane to after 6 December, but before the 14th? I'd like to count 6 December as out for the date of ROT1.
On a different note, is it agreed that our mysterious purple building is the Park Plaza Riverbank hotel?
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fa237c No.16791909
>>16787526
Flag and pole relative to The Eye and other markers near The Queen's Walk side of River thames.
This GE image from summer 2013 also shows the various buildings and features behind The Eye within the camera frame of ROT_1, for reference.
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fa237c No.16792252
>>16791771
18 Albert Embankment is the address of that pink/ purple building.
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fa237c No.16792557
>>16791771 >>16787231
Having watched the 06-DEC-2013-P vid repetaedly, the plausiblity of two lights aligned within the camer frame is sound and, with the camera movement, this may account for the plusating discussed earlier. However, see attached vidcap; note that the pulsating effect may have been the result of auto features of the camera - such as focus and exposure and framerate. That 'large' light, which looked mishapened or distorted, narrowed to a single red light at the instance recorded in this vidcap.
The vid appears to have captured one red llight but no cranes. This light may have been on the building. It may have been on a crane, perhaps partialy assembled, IDK. Leaning toward a single red light; leaning toward on a crane. However, we need more to make these notions very firm. This is important because if 06 becomes a bookend, its significance grows.
The date for that vid is a POSTED date and so 06-DEC-2013 can fairly be pinned as a not-after-date for THAT video and what it may have captured. How it works with the Q time interval for ROT_1 remains speculative at this moment.
All of this is to say that the case can be made for a single light on or BEFORE 06-DEC-2013. The differences in angles of the various related pics we have at the moment may account for the apperance of one light captured in front of another such that together the pair would appeat to be a single light.
The key comparison may be between ROT_1 and 24LONDON. The camera positions and the framings are close enough to show both the front of The Eye and the area behind that included two red lights in approximately the same location.
moar…
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fa237c No.16792560
>>16792557
continued…
24LONDON is a high quality photo. It showed cranes as well as the red lights. ROT_1 is lower quality, in terms of background technicalities, not content, and its camera frame may have been just enough different from 24LONDON that there were no cranes visible. That is, in ROT_1 the cranes, if present, were below and thus obscured by the rooftops.
Earlier, anons compared background buildings re the blue lighting behind The Eye. Making that a touchstone for comparison, the red lights in ROT_1 are close matches for 24LONDON.
We have yet to firmly date 24LONDON which serves as a proxy for LisaMI6; yet it is also a very good Q match for ROT_1 at least in terms of the Southbank.
25LONDON did not capture Victoria Embankment's junction with Northumberland and so its usefulness has been neglected to a large extent in our digs. So far.
Also, 24LONDON clearly showed the red lights on cranes in vicinity of 18 Albert Embankment (pink/purple building), the shrouded tower behind Big Ben, the Speaker's apartments, and, as extensively discussed, the lighting pattern in Millbank Tower, among other significant markers. Its value is high.
So. Dating 24LONDON is of renewed importance, again.
Compared with ROT_1, both KEMP 14-DEC-2013-T and SETTERFIELD 25-DEC-2013-T provide significantly different views of the Southbank. The camera position is closer to the side of The Eye, or slightly behind it, and so the context for the red light/s behind is somewhat lost. Yet these are dated fairly firmly, if we take the stock photo Date Taken on face value. These serve as very good proxies.
But, if we find more evidence to eliminate other types of lighting, these pics may become direct evidence for ROT_1 and the red lights under discussion. We are close to that, I think, when it comes to lighting on the ferris wheel and lighting fixed on buildings, i.e. NOT CRANE MOUNTED. Need more to eliminate non-crane possiblities.
14-DEC-2013-T captured both the red lights and the cranes. 25-DEC-2013-T captured one red light and no cranes. We could assume that this one red light was a) on a crane AND b) present while the other red light was also present just out-of-frame. It is a big assumption with high significance; so best to firm it up very well before building on it.
The interval between these two pics is about 10 days and that overlaps with Christmas Week. This timing may change the probabilities depending on us finding evidence of the lights and cranes in similair positions AFTER 25-DEC-2013 and BEFORE changes to the shrouded tower behind Big Ben.
Not having much luck, so far, in finding late-DEC-2013 and JAN-2014 IMAGES of the area behind The Eye. Night views would be best to capture the lights; day or twilight for capturing the cranes. But we gets what we gets.
At this point, can't rule out that there was only one red light at that particular location on 25-DEC-2013. There may have been two. There may have red lights on cranes PLUS another on a building. It is possible that two lights lined-up closely in the 06-DEC-2013 vid and appeared to be a single light. The cranes were working and their booms were not static and so the parked positions of booms might have varied from night to night. Just a possibility. Of course, in some deployments in London and other big cities, the booms park in a standard way and become predictable markers in the skyline.
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fa237c No.16792661
Reference vidcaps, JUL-2014-P.
Series of vidcaps confirm this recording made AFTER the time interval for the EMB pics and BEFORE winter of 2015/2016. Shrounded tower behind Big Ben no longer shrouded with hoarding. TATT's funnel was white on top.
Views of Southbank from two different angles.
While these vidcaps depict the scene about half-year after the time interval for the EMB pics, some of the development projects might have have overlapped that interval.
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3da09c No.16792694
>>16792560
The crane positions after working hours tell one of two things. Either the hook is above the first lift for the next day or the very common lifting of the generator used to power the welders. Moving the boom with a hook at the end of the cables can easily induce unwanted swinging. Take a clothesline tied to a shower curtain rod with a weight on the end and try putting the weight in a bucket from over a balcony or stairs. Big swings take a bit to get settled even with a bit of maneuvering (I done this with a crane truck, not nearly as tall but same thing happens) so first lift needs to be above the first load so the riggers just need the hook lowered. The generator thing is to prevent theft of a very expensive piece of hardware
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fa237c No.16792704
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fa237c No.16792738
Same development project captured differ times in GE imagery.
Before current time interval for ROT_1.
AUG 2013
After interval for TOT_1
FEB 2014
FEB 2014 - exposure adjusted
JUN 2014
JUN 2014 - exposure adjusted
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3da09c No.16792769
>>16791909
Sweet!
Slightly southeast of the Park Plaza Westminster I see a construction site. Only dirt remains in what may have been the parking lot for that building which would have been knocked down to make way for the Urbanest. Closer to Southbank Place is the construction site for those other apartment buildings named Casson Square
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fa237c No.16792809
>>16786877
>>16792738
>>16786927
Cranes on site that would become URBANEST, as per discussion/digz above.
SV-JUN-2012
SV-JUL-2014
SV-MAY-2015
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fa237c No.16792851
More SV images from target area.
Two CLOSELY positioned cranes still there by
SV-MAY-2014
SV-AUG-2014
Gone by
SV-MAY-2015
So cranes appeared in this target area sometime between SC- MAY-2012 and SV-MAY-2014; and packed up between SV-AUG-2014 and SV-MAY-2015.
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3da09c No.16792929
Seems Urbanest got approval 30 January 2013
Then stuff got into motion
David Cameron visits South Bank building site
Wednesday 28 May 2014 London SE1 website team
The prime minister visited a construction site on the South Bank early on Tuesday morning.
David Cameron visited the building site at 199 Westminster Bridge Road where a new 1,000-bedroom student residence and private sixth form college is under construction.
"Giving businesses the confidence to invest and create jobs is a key part of our long term economic plan," said David Cameron.
"Balfour Beatty's commitment to spend a record £1 billion on small and medium sized businesses this year is very welcome evidence that this plan is working – supporting thousands of jobs within small and medium businesses, which will give hard-working people economic security for the future."
Nicholas Pollard, Chief Executive Officer, Balfour Beatty Construction Services UK, said: "We are delighted the Prime Minister could be with us today to celebrate our £1 billion spend with small businesses this year, 98% of which are British companies. Small businesses create local jobs and apprenticeships and they are the innovators, engineers and exporters of the future. We are committed to supporting them so that we can build a better Britain together; leaving a lasting legacy in the communities we touch across the UK."
Jonathan Howard, director of SE1-based firm Robert West, a small business providing temporary works and scaffolding which is working on the student accommodation project, said: "We have seen that Balfour Beatty is committed to close and collaborative relationships with locally-based small businesses like ourselves.
"The stability of our relationship with Balfour Beatty allows us to thrive and progress as a business and we welcome additional investment being targeted at smaller businesses like ours.
"We certainly support Balfour Beatty's commitment to increasing spending with small and growing businesses like ours."
The scheme being developed by Urbanest includes new premises for DLD College London.
https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7592
Private sixth-form college prepares to open in Waterloo
Wednesday 19 August 2015
London SE1 website team
A new private sixth-form college charging up to £43,000 a year will open next month close to Westminster Bridge.
Full article:
https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/8418
So construction is complete in August, some finishing work likely, then open the doors September of 2015
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fa237c No.16792937
>>16792769
Former site of York House.
SV-MAY-2012
Developed, use of two cranes inside parameter of new building.
SV-MAY-2014
Not a very high office tower.
Possibly one crane sometimes lower than the other.
Or one used to setup the other.
SV-JUL-2014
Now location of office tower, Urbanest.
SV-MAY-2015
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3da09c No.16792955
>>16792937
Opened its doors beginning September 2015 as DLD College. Classes at the lower levels and boarding for students aged 14-19 above
https://www.mylondon.news/news/local-news/new-dld-college-london-opens-9982071
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fa237c No.16792958
>>16792929
>Seems Urbanest got approval 30 January 2013
30-JAN-2013 Approval
GE-AUG-2013 Cranes already on site, demolition nearly done.
GE-FEB-2014 Cranes still at work.
SV-MAY-2014 Cranes double-teaming.
Means plausible that the two closely positioned red lights, and in some images also cranes, in the ROT_1 and related images were present when these cranes were active.
Highly plausible and highly probable Q match?
If yes, significance?
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fa237c No.16792964
>>16792955
Right on, ty anon.
In searching for these lights/cranes, has an alternative been found for the bright object that has been assumed to have been the moon behind The Eye?
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3da09c No.16792990
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16792937
>>16792955 (me)
<Possibly one crane sometimes lower than the other.
<Or one used to setup the other
Those two cranes would have also worked on each other adding sections as the building rose.
Climbing tower crane adding tower sections Htc wolffkran 70 st Marys axe
May 14, 2017 Run Time 14:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mho-Fr5pCk
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fa237c No.16793007
>>16792937
Closeup of the top of boom extension where red light would have been affixed?
Cabin type and position seemed to have varied, based on what is visible in various SV images. Doesn't look like the cab was used at height above surrounding rooftops.
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fa237c No.16793029
>>16792990
TY Anon. All done in the middle of neighbouring buldings and work below. Amazing, really.
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fa237c No.16793087
>>16792958
>30-JAN-2013 Approval
>GE-AUG-2013 Cranes already on site, demolition nearly done.
>GE-FEB-2014 Cranes still at work.
>SV-MAY-2014 Cranes double-teaming.
ROT_1 time interval falls between pictorial evidence for GE-AUG-2013 (when demo nearly finished) and GE-FEB-2014 (when consruction well underway on lower floors). The timing of the construction work could provide more evidence to narrow the Q interval. That work would have raised the apex of the cranes above the height of the buildings between the site and The Eye.
Here's a neat-but-not-quite view of the target area from a ROT-like vantage, SV-JUL-2014.
Here's a GE-AUG-2013 image marked-up with approximate line of sight from whereabouts of the ROT_1 camera.
Review the previously posted images of the target area and make your observs, frens, re timing of construction and height of cranes.
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fa237c No.16793091
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3da09c No.16793129
Pedo bear has been nuked, refresh and the little beast is gone
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fa237c No.16793202
>>16792694
1. End of day prep for start of next shift.
2. Secure valuable mobile equipment.
Okay, so the appearance of the red lights, atop of cranes, would mean, at the very least, the workday shift had finished? Besides, there'd be some stanards about ending crane work prior to dark?
If, yes, then, we might be able to establish a continunity of position of the red lights from one dated pic to another. Would little to no change in position of the red lights/cranes indicate a gap between active worksite - such as during a holiday period? or would booms be parked in standard 'home' position end of day?
Guessing that the last question will begin with, it depends, as per your previous remarks about end of day prep for start of next day. Or is there much higher likelihood of varied positioning at end of workdays?
If we searched for more views of the positioning of the lights/cranes, is the chance good that we'd find discernible variations as normal and no-changes unusual except during long weekends or other breaks in the work schedule?
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3da09c No.16793267
>>16793202
The lights would be required at at night but I'd say we'd need a tourist video to catch one of those cranes moving to see if a night shift was working. I'd say generally come 1700 things would be done, that operator has to climb all the way to the ground from that cab after all.
What would be useful would be the road closures in that area. Did the roads get closed to all but say cement trucks during the project or were there times at night the roads were open to thru-traffic?
If the roads were opened at say 1800 then we could say the site was buttoned up for the night
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3da09c No.16793330
>>16793267 (me)
I'm kicking myself right now.
That last pic in >>16792738
I see traffic going around, but the one road next to the railway looks like construction only. The two tower cranes are facing opposite direction in the pic. I see a mobile crane next to the road that seems to be unloading flat beds and placing the material where the south tower crane can bring the stuff up. (again, those pesky swinging hooks)
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fa237c No.16794039
>>16791771
Kek, I had missed the purple building in the view through the window, distracted as I was by the pleasant countenance of fair maidens afore.
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fa237c No.16794164
>>16793330
Crane appeared to be assembling or disassembling the other in the SV images on Upper Marsh just before the railroad underpass.
SV-JUL-2014
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.499439,-0.1158715,3a,70.2y,356.16h,102.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMKteFIZapR8aOX3tj7MvVg!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Also see SV-MAY-2014 which showed the two cranes at smilair heights. Niether appeared to have an apex above the rooftops nearby. This may account for the presence of red lights and no cranes in some of the available images.
Given the construction work captured in 2014, which had reached the lower few floors, might it be plausible that the late 2013 view of the same worksite would have been occupied by cranes that were hiigher during demolition and lower during the foundation pouring stage of construction? Might the cranes have been taller at the start of demo and were reduced at various stages as the work reached toward ground level? Might at each 'lowering' stage, the view from afar would have shown one crane taller than the other and, thus, appear to be alone - displaying a single red light?
Speculation, all. We do have images with one light and images with two lights and images with and without crane booms displayed.
If the speculation is reasonable, and if the dig continues, we might then look for images of these different stages of demolition/ construction so as to narrow the interval to match the two lights, no crane booms, captured in ROT_1; and the single light captured in the vid 06-DEC-2013-P.
On that vid, what do anons think? Did the vid capture two lights which appeared as a single distorted light source - with one light some distance behind the other and the autofocus on the camera resetting? It was only for a brief instance that the light source appeared as a singel red light. A fraction of a second.
See >>16792557
See mark 1:38 approximately, >>16781408
Even the side views document a now-you-see-it, now-you-don't.
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fa237c No.16794284
>>16794164
SV-MAY-2014 views from Westminster Bridge.
Apex of each crane in these images stood higher than the neighbouring Park Plaza Hotel, which stood between the cranes and The Eye.
If we can find images from 2013, particularly DEC-2013 (and perhaps JAN-2014), we might find proxies to support match with ROT_1.
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938b77 No.16794292
>>16773003
Anon, I went to the ‘long’ original vid you mention and it has a posted(?) date of 23NOV2013.
Am left puzzled why you labeled your ‘short’ version of the original as 6DEC2013-P. Can you explain how you came up with the December date?
My current understanding, based on the original vid being from 23NOV2013-P is that we have a single red crane behind LONDON EYE on 23NOV2013.
Followed by the pic 14DEC2014-T
which shows 2 cranes behind LE.
The others following that are linked to the 4 Getty pics (not showing the 2 crane lights behind LE) which were taken in sequence on Christmas Day and having a MILLBANK building lights match with LISAMI6 and also 24LONDON (which pic has 2 red crane lights behind LE).
ROT1 has 2 red lights in the same location as the lights seen in 24LONDON and ALSO has a blurred but compelling MILLBANK lights match with LISA, LONDON 2847 24LONDON and all 4 of the 25DEC2013-T Getty series.
This leads me to surmise we had
1 crane behind LONDON EYE on or before 23NOV2013. We got 2 red crane lights by 14DEC2013 which lights were still seen by CHRISTMAS DAY in the EMB pics.
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fa237c No.16794303
>>16794284
SV-MAY-2014
York House worksite cranes visible from Parliament Square/ Westminster Bridge Road. Boom apex taller than neighbouring rooftops, as seen from afar.
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fa237c No.16794337
>>16794292
https://ok.ru/video/3634365838
vs
https://youtu.be/zNaA22SvLjc
Gud catch, fren. My mistake. Will Correct video and vidcaps, for completion and accuracy. TY.
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938b77 No.16794368
>>16794337
I also saw what may put to rest, mebbe not, the theory (albeit a gud one as I was saying to myself, why didn’t I think if it) of one light behind another. Take another look at the 23NOV2013 vid. I see one crane behind and to the left of the carousel. Looks like a single red crane light.
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938b77 No.16794389
>>16794337
Ah, I see that RU (repost?) is responsible for the disinfo. Hmm
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fa237c No.16794433
>>16794292
23-NOV-2013-P showed single red light, during a fraction of a second. For the greater part a larger bright object was captured in approximately the same position behind the Eye (LE).
KEMP 14-DEC-2014-T showed 2 red lights on 2 cranes behind LE.
24LONDON showed 2 red lights on 2 cranes
>ROT1 has 2 red lights in the same location as the lights seen in 24LONDON and ALSO has a blurred but compelling MILLBANK lights match with LISA, LONDON 2847 24LONDON and all 4 of the 25DEC2013-T Getty series.
Fair enough. The matches are much less compelling on some of these views. Different hours of the night perhaps, but that would suggest more activity than has been assumed during Christmas Day.
>This leads me to surmise we had
>1 crane behind LONDON EYE on or before 23NOV2013. We got 2 red crane lights by 14DEC2013 which lights were still seen by CHRISTMAS DAY in the EMB pics.
The red lights showed only in ROT_1; no cranes were captured but your surmise is very reasonable, natch.
And as for the bight white object in the sky behind LE near its hub? Can an alternative to the moon be ruled-out based on the pictorial evidence alone or must that rely on reasonable conjecture alone?
Asking not because in disagreement; need to make each underlying stepping stone as rock solid as possible.
Red lights in approximate position within camera frames is more solid when cranes are also visible, for example. But many multiples of red lights/ no cranes that occupy the same approximte position within camera frame is more solid than a one-off from a different angle or vantage.
So the support the conjecture, we need more evidence, IMO, even though it would be great to reach conclusions sooner rather than later.
Your reasoning is very good and it stitches together the proxies and the directs. And that fits very well the Q instruction to note upgrades and changes to the surroundings. We have a series of London Pics during the same winter of 2013/2014 and all posted in the context of Spygate and the broader discussion of the origins of whatever it is that Q would have us dig organically.
The process of elimination is like weeding the garden. But the gardner needs to distinguish between what is best tended and what is best discarded. If I rightly remember, Q dropped a London-related text regarding the reality of disinformation and having more than we know.
For Baker, the working summary Anon provided is notable as it marks progress in connecting a wider range of pictorial evidence.
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fa237c No.16794466
>>16794368
Interdasting, vantage on ground level. Might that be a rooftop light? It appears to be in gud location for a match with the other side-views of the red lights/ cranes.
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938b77 No.16794545
>>16794433
>And as for the bight white object in the sky behind LE near its hub? Can an alternative to the moon be ruled-out based on the pictorial evidence alone or must that rely on reasonable conjecture alone?
I have to say I won’t rule out. I have kept silent on it, but not because I cling to it. I just have nothing to add to the conversation yea or nay. Am keeping an open mind.
I will just say only atm that that 14DEC2013-T pic is the best sauce we have of that area behind LE. Re-look at the 23NOV vid. I honestly got completely turned around in watching the South Bank Christmas village sequence.
I would think I was looking to landward only to notice the riverbank lights behind the stalls.
Having said that, what do you think of these pics? Is that LE behind the stall? If so, where is that white light from?
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fa237c No.16794558
>>16794368
Mark 4:39 in the 23-NOC-2013-P vid?
If there was a second light behind the first, the camera frame at that moment in the vid might not have shown enough to the left of frame to capture the approximate location of a second crane light. Thinking the 2nd crane, if present, would have appeared farther from the 1st crane, especially from ground level. Maybe not, IDK.
Compare:
Kemp
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/f9cf123fb7ed6563414d0a96001c383a00fbb2cb63bfb58c9f826be079ff11c8.png
Setterfield
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/2601a921dcfb14cc1f3db0c0bf5a518927bd458b19612497b68d8d3d0738bd33.png
23-NOV-2013-P
https://youtu.be/zNaA22SvLjc?t=948
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938b77 No.16794602
>>16794558
>Mark 4:39 in the 23-NOC-2013-P vid?
Affirm
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fa237c No.16794638
Reverse views a) from railtracks looking back toward LE and b) from within the new building looking toward LE.
a
https://www.ahmm.co.uk/assets/galleries/311/2775_007.jpg
b
https://www.ahmm.co.uk/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/3338_11039_N741.2c3425ad06bcdd5cc23c4ec77eca20e1.jpg
Moar at Architect's website. AHMM.
https://www.ahmm.co.uk/projects/education/westminster-bridge-road/
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938b77 No.16794656
>>16794545
Although- I can’t see any white light in this view of LE from the same vid 23NOV2013-P.
Honestly? A white light from a crane operator’s cabin seems too far away from the 2 suspected cranes in ROT1. If it was a cabin light in ROT1 I honestly think it would have to be from a THIRD crane. Which crane would have to appear, IMHO, after the 14DEC2013-T pic.
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fa237c No.16794683
>>16794545
Behind the stall is the footbridge suspension cables, I think. The stalls line the riverbank wall?
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fa237c No.16794718
>>16794656
That makes sense. If there was a cabin lilght in that position it would have to be a third crane position. There was work done on St Thomas Hospital but that may be too far afield to find its way into ROT_1 camera frame.
There might be other alternatives? IDK. Sometimes, just because we hadn't come across a briefly lived one-off, doesn't mean it hadn't existed nonetheless. Think of that riverbank adboard, for example/ Or that first aid sign near CH. Or, for that matter, the rabbit tag in Black Box. Or an RML parked outside the Grosvenor Casino. Some markers are key because they are rarely seen in open source despite being present in Q pics. And, of those few such markers, some are more in our face than others.
So maybe that white light was the moon in just the right position in the sky and it marks a narrow time interval. Or it was some other object that likewise was a short-lived on-off that just happened to be present for the Q pic.
This is the basis for the intrigue around the Millbank lighting pattern, which turned out to be very significant connective tissue across the EMB pics and which added weight to the notion that LisaMI6 was a sort of outlier among the EMB pics.
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938b77 No.16794721
>>16794683
>The stalls line the riverbank wall?
I think for a portion of the Village there are stalls on both sides. Beyond the carousel. If I am not completely wrong.
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938b77 No.16794799
>>16794718
>So maybe that white light was the moon in just the right position in the sky and it marks a narrow time interval. Or it was some other object that likewise was a short-lived on-off that just happened to be present for the Q pic.
Frankly, it wouldn’t bother me one bit as I feel imho we have enuf to place LISA and the Getty 25DEC pics on the same day. Well, +/- 1 day from Christmas Day.
As for me, it was the wheely bins that made LISA the outlier. I still think they are all within 1 or two days or on the same day with the EMB bins probly out out after, if on the same day. If not on the same day then +/- 1 day of each other.
Because of the fair MILLBANK light matches.
Nao we must reason if we think a crane operator’s cabin could be seen on a day +/- 1 from Christmas but be missed in all the other very near in time sauces, both day and night.
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fa237c No.16794833
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fa237c No.16794853
>>16794799
>operator’s cabin could be seen on a day +/- 1 from Christmas but be missed in all the other very near in time sauces, both day and night
Very unlikely the bright white object was a crane cabin light.
So alternatives? What would we look for? A rooftop light source? Something very bright indeed. As bright as a big moon as captured in other images of LE with moon.
Again, I think very unlikely.
But will remain open to more evidence for an alternative. The rationale makes sense but needs support beyond conjecture, IMO.
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fa237c No.16794858
>>16794721
Yes, that's right, the two rows fomed a sort of shopping aisle/pathway over there.
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fa237c No.16794882
>>16794833
GE-JUL-2013-P
Crane at St Thomas Hospital.
Could this be the red light that appears in the open source images that show sideviews of LE?
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fa237c No.16794993
GE-AUG-2013-T
The crane location might line-up with one of the red lights that showed in SETTERFIELD 25-DEC-2013-T, however, would that also be so for KEMP 14-DEC-2013-T?
Maybe not because in KEMP there are potential obstacles that might obscure the red light, if present, on top of a crane at St Thomas Hospital. And the elevation of the camera vantage is different. IDK.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/2601a921dcfb14cc1f3db0c0bf5a518927bd458b19612497b68d8d3d0738bd33.png
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/f9cf123fb7ed6563414d0a96001c383a00fbb2cb63bfb58c9f826be079ff11c8.png
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/9cddd590b144d889e0cd3b6205a70076b5ba3838f3e783fbd4d433c6202350c8.png
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fa237c No.16795136
>>16794833 >>16794993 >>16794833
There was a crane by St Thomas Hospital and it may have had a red light visible from around the Golden Jubilee Bridge through a side-view of the LE. That crane position appriximately lines-up with a tower or steeple on top of County Hall, Belvedere Rd, London SE1 7GP, UK. (Seaworld is located there.)
SV-AUG-2013
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5022674,-0.120703,3a,90y,70.11h,114.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slPnQDda1c7BibwWaIS922w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DlPnQDda1c7BibwWaIS922w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D57.747646%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16795265
>>16794993 >>16795136
This SV-AUG-2013 view suggests that by the time of this image the crane's apex was lower than the building between it and the LE. So it would not, at that time, have been visible from the vantage for Q's camera. But possibly visible from a sideview of the LE at a different time at which the boom may have been raised high enough to peak above the rooftop of County Hall building.
However, if that was so, then it would likely have been so in ROT_1 had that Q pic been taken at around the same time as Setterield 25-DEC-2013-T.
So, if the red light captured by Setterfield's sideview of the LE was on the crane behind St Thomas, then, ROT_1 would not have been taken on the same day, 25-DEC-2013-T.
We have assumed, I think, that the red light on 25-DEC-2013-T was on a crane over at the York House worksite. But in Setterfield the red light appears too close to the position of the tower or steeple atop of County Hall for it to have been at York House. While it may not have been on the crane behind St Thomas, it might have been on a crane farther away by Albert Embankment - there were at least two very tall crane booms in that direction.
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fa237c No.16795270
>>16795265
Oops, here is the SV-AUG-2013 image referred to in prev post.
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fa237c No.16795310
>>16795265
Of course, keep in mind that these images of from the summer of 2013, not the winter much less DECEMBER 2013. The crane heights and boom positons may have differed significantly during Christmas week 2013.
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938b77 No.16795353
>>16794858
I now see I was confused, as stated earlier, about which direction that cap was facing. >>16794545
Thanks for the leg up. Goin Kray for twin cranes.
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fa237c No.16795398
>>16795310
The tall crane also appeared in Chadwick's daylight photo 22-DEC-2013-T.
It may also have appeared, very dimly, in NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847.
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fa237c No.16795414
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fa237c No.16795497
>>16795265
To clarify, am speaking of the red light that appeared in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T; that does not appear to be the same as one of the two red lilghts on cranes over at the York House worksite. Different vantage and angle from ROT_1 anyway. However, if this particular red light was on a crane at the St Thomas worksite, it seems it would have been visible on the rightside of the camera frame of ROT_1, but does not appear in that Q pic. Yet farther away at the 18 Albert Embankment area there was a very tall crane boom - not at the pink/purple site but nearby - and that could have been the source for the red light that was captured in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T. It would have been tall enough to peak over the buildings between it and Setterfield's camera vantage but far enough away to not appear in ROT_1; even if in LONDON2847 it may have been captured very dimly. Likewise in ROT_1 but far from the LE (see attached pic).
So the two things can be true at the same time, pending more evidence, that there were two crane lights in ROT_1 but neither of them were the sole red light in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T.
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938b77 No.16795576
>>16794853
Well, when I first saw 24LONDON I was thinking that farthest white crane cabin light might be the Moon. Here I am arguin against the Moon…
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938b77 No.16795681
>>16795265
>However, if that was so, then it would likely have been so in ROT_1 had that Q pic been taken at around the same time as Setterield 25-DEC-2013-T.
Anon, you appear to be making a very important deduction here. Howevers, this anon is beat atm. Need to get some rest. Keeping odd hours lately. Hold that thought. Am very interested in this.
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3da09c No.16797681
>>16794292
>>16794337
Hang on a second
Was about to start posting the buns and notables for the 450 mark but I'm gonna need a bit of clarification.
The vid with the ok.ru is actually from an originally posted 23 November?
Like I said before, no functioning headphones here so I'm unable to tell if there's any comments in that vid and the "Roberts London" vid down as:
>>16772531, >>16772538 14-DEC-2013-P? "Roberts London" Southbank Christmas Markets London Christmas Gift Shopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRA9SCOi3y0
That's why the question mark after the P, I don't know if there's a mention of the actual date the vid was taken
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3da09c No.16797976
>>16794389
The 6 DEC was what I'd found, was unaware of an earlier version
The shills will be mad they missed it. "See? Bread is comp'd, baker is Russian disinfo spy dude!"
I'd think if anything the Russians would want to help expose Five Eyes fuckery
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938b77 No.16799960
>>16797681
Affirmative. The two identical vids have the same run time but first is posted 23NOV2013. Second one is a repost. As I recall, VidAnon said the date of a vid cannot be manipulated but is only set by the date it was posted. So generally, all vids should be deemed ‘posted’ and we need not bother with the ‘P’ designation.
As for the RU reposting of the vid, I was thinking the same as anon. Can’t see a reason for them to mislead in this matter anyway. Hence the ‘hmm’. I do recall the false flag planting of RU lang in comp code to throw people off in those hacker ops though.
They might be moar inclined to leave breadcrumbs in open sauce. Like tourist pics n vids.
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3da09c No.16800111
Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16695651, >>16695655, >>16696348, >>16696361, >>16696367, >>16696371, >>16696377 The DUMONT
>>16695851, >>16696278, >>16696407, >>16720242 Camelford House, 87-90 Albert Embankment
>>16696244, >>16696248 Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel 18 Albert Embankment, London SE1 7TJ, 1-AUG-2012-P vid of the two bridges over Thames, camera vantage The Eye (video)
>>16696414, >>16696415 Vauxhall SV images for 2012, 2013, 2019. Reference
>>16696455 Peninsula Heights Apartments, 93 Albert Embankment. The cranes in 22-DEC-2013-T are lit up on top
>>16696534 GE-07-2013-T (3D buildings overlayed)
>>16696573 Additional candidates for pink/ purple lit building?
>>16696609 Should not lose sight of the fact that most of the candidates for the pink/purple coloured building also reinforce the pre-2015-2016 conclusion UK Anons are working with for dating the Q pics
>>16696831, >>16696840 New Years Eve 31-DEC-2013-T videos for elevated night time views of the Embankments
>>16696954 NYE 31-DEC-2013-T via BBC One
>>16697024, >>16697063 Stock photos, various years
>>16704118, >>16704257, >>16720353 Riverbank Plaza Hotel, 18 Albert Embankment London SE1 7SP with obvious exterior lighting
>>16704262 2011, Crowne Plaza and Riverbank Plaza hotels
>>16747440, >>16747575 24London open sauce photo (nicknamed "Purple Sister" re LisaMI6) vid mark 1 minute https://youtu.be/eDzV7cMRvHM?t=63 Purple building lit, two crans at Vauxhall, shroud at Westminster tower
>>16747587 Moar points of interest in comparison between open sauce pics and LisaMI6
>>16747671 Pic taken from Millbank Tower: Note that the gap in the row of waterfront buldings had not yet appeared at the time of this pic. Also the Crowne Plaza had not yet undergone rennovations. And 18 Albert Embankment, the building with the 3-sided waterfront, had not been rennovated
>>16747726, >>16747742, >>16747754, >>16747766 Various SV images along the Millbank (A3212) provide a view of the other side of the river which is obstructed by treecover
>>16747778, >>16747901 Good view of the area of interest on Albert embankment, pre-demolition
>>16748013, >>16748035, >>16748204, >>16748313 Getty stock photo, 25-DEC-2013-T. Close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London
>>16753143, >>16753358, >>16753413, 16753504, >>16764764, >>16766154 Comparison pics, future site of Corniche building Google Earth GE-MAR-2012 Imagery Date: 8/2/2011 & GE-JUL-2013 Imagery Date: 18-JUL-2013 View Location: 51°29'27.88" N 0°07'18.01" W
>>16747817, >>16753504, >>16755363 Comparison: Google Earth JUL-2013 Streetview AUG-2013, checking for hoarding installations
>>16753687, >>16753747, >>16753808 SV-JUL-2014 The Corniche gap
>>16754392, >>16754461, >>16754678, >>1654723, >>1654735, >>16765628, >>16767324 18 Albert Embankment (Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel) glass facade and coloured floodlighting
>>16755875 Crowne Plaza hotel to open on Albert Embankment, 27 September 2013 https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7106
>>16755895, 16755898, >>16755927, >>16755937, >>16755950 Albert Embankment: rooftop club overlooking Parliament approved 7 August 2016
>>16791771, >>16776457, >>16792252 The Science is Settled! pink/purple buikding is the Riverbank Plaza hotel, 18 Albert Embankment
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3da09c No.16800114
Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16704118, >>16704289 Signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics
>>16704327 At least six cranes around Dec 2013
>>16704415, >>16704460 22-DEC-2013-T Daytime pic over looking TATTERSHALL CASTLE, 4 to 5 cranes visible over Vauxhall
>>16705019, >>16705021 At least three [3] cranes lit in night pic of 28-SEP-2013-T
>>16719993, >>16742328 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16742364, >>16742373 Cap of N. Chadwick pic of Thames skyline 28-SEP-2013-T Three cranes at Vauxhall, No pink/purple lit building, apparently
>>16747634 Closeup of the Albert Embankment as cap;tured by Chadwick 22-DEC-2013, daytime, at least four cranes at Vauxhall
>>16748734, >>16748997, >>16767403 TinEye says first found 6 December 2014. Notice the cranes on left. The nearest St. George Tower has big white floodlight, the one left has white flood and a red for the two boom sections
>>16749161, >>16767266, >>16767292 ROT1 Match: Mike Kemp, Date created: 14 December, 2013: UK - London - South Bank View during the busy Christmas season towards the London Eye and Westminster. Cranes behind London Eye
>>16749877, >>16753025 Shutterstock 134752082: TineEye says first found 31 August, 2013 St George Tower not complete, but lower floors have the lights on No demolition for Corniche or Dumont
>>16753525, >>16753556 Four cranes, GE-AUG-2013 and SV-AUG-2013
>>16765628 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16766354, >>16767268, >>16769475 January 2013, helicopter collides with crane at St George Tower. Civil Aviation Authority confirmed red aviation warning lights on tall structures only need to be turned on at night - and not during bad weather in daylight hours - because they are not visible in fog or low cloud
>>16754266 Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013-T Up river to Westminster Bridge https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816144 And a closelup modified to enhance view of the cranes and buiding profiles
>>16767324, >>16767344, >>16767348, >>16767357, >>16767381, >>1676403, NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 cranes
>>16767429 Shutterstock, TinEye says first found 28 April, 2014 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/view-vauxhall-bridge-center-london-night-189181721? Two cranes to far right, looks like hoarding on those buildings demolished for the Corniche
>>16767481 #6 in the set, Tineye first found 24 Dec, 2015. Four, maybe five cranes behind the Millbank Tower. One crane with horizntal boom visible in Vauxhall to left of St George Tower
>>16772090, >>16772111 Vid comparison, AUG v DEC 2013 https://youtu.be/u0X4d9PMuoU
>>16786350, >>16786435 Park Plaza County Hall and Park Plaza Westminster, a theory meets a quick death
>>16784670, >>16784803 January 31, 2013 Matthew Gibs: Building behind the Eye is Southbank Place crane next to St George, a tall white one behind Southbank Place, and another one at the extreme left of the pic
>>16794882, >>16794993, >>16795136, 16795265, >>16795270, >>16795310, >>16795398, >>16795497 Crane at St Thomas Hospital. GE-JUL-2013-P and GE-AUG-2013-T
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3da09c No.16800115
Updated Other References Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732209, >>16732538, >>16733324, >>16734100 Reference pic to show the distance from Hungerford Bridge to TATTERSHALL CASTLE 25-OCT-2014-T
>>16734821 24-OCT-2015-T Post-Refit TATTERSHALL CASTLE, RAF Memorial is dark
>>16747168 8-NOV-2016-T Link to 21 second vid showing darkened RAF Memorial https://www.bitchute.com/video/NgOsVFAEw9Pd/
>>16747275 OCT-2011, Reference, view from footbridge similair to Q pics, especially LisaMi6. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mt7jBASQ5LvO/
>>16747303 Vid, comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bzft57cyoYTI/
>>16754564 Picadilly Circus Snowglobe: Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
>>16756137 December 2013, the Weather closes in
>>16756217 View from the Pentagon, NIOC
>>16754281, >>16754319, >>16767276 NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 with modified versions to bring out the treecover which obscures the view of Albert Embankment
>>16772437, >>16772512, >>16772598 London Weather to consider
>>16772531, >>16772538 14-DEC-2013-P? "Roberts London" Southbank Christmas Markets London Christmas Gift Shopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRA9SCOi3y0
>>16772611, >>16772641, >>16773003, >>16781408, >>16794292, >>16794337, >>16794433 23-NOV-2013-P Christmas in London 2013https://ok.ru/video/3634365838
>>16780506 London Plane trees
>>16787440, >>16787526, >>16791909 Lest we forget, another marker/mystery: The flag pole near The Eye
>>16787620 06-DEC-2013-P Night vid The Eye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRPNlRzCuw
>>16791176, 16791421 Moon over Thames AUG 2015 Moon seen through The Eye https://youtu.be/kl2h-UVx5TI
>>16791636 Moon over Thames, 16-DEC-2014, London UK. (timelapsed) https://youtu.be/t1ufG8oAPzI
>>16792661 Reference vidcaps, JUL-2014-P Series of vidcaps confirm this recording made AFTER time interval for EMB pics and BEFORE winter of 2015/2016 Views of Southbank from two different angles
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3da09c No.16800116
Urbanest Bun
203 Westminster Bridge Road, London SE1 7FR, former site of York House
>>16786877 Mebbe the cranes are behind the Park Plaza at URBANEST? Or near King’s Cross Theatre?
>>16787231, >>16792557, >>16792560 Comparing 06 DEC 2013, Kemp 14 DEC 2013, Setterfiled 25 DEC 2013 with 24London and ROT1
>>16786891, >>16786927 Day and niight views over looking Park Plaza County Hall and Park Plaza Westminster towards target area
>>16792704 Google Earth 18-JUL-2013-T Satellite view of site that would become Urbanest, York House demolition complete
>>16792738 Urbanest project captured different times in GE imagery. Aug 2013, Feb 2014, June 2014
>>16792809, >>16792851 Cranes on site that would become URBANEST, ground level pics: SV-JUN-2012, SV-MAY-2014, SV-JUL-2014, SV-AUG-2014, SV-MAY-2015
>>16792929, >>16792958 David Cameron visits South Bank building site, Wednesday 28 May 2014
>>16792937, >>16792955 Former site of York House SV-MAY-2012, SV-MAY-2014, SV-JUL-2014, SV-MAY-2015; DLD College at the Urbanest opens its doors 7 SEP 2015
>>16793087, >>16793091 More views looking towards Urbanest area, crane over County Hall
>>16794164 SV-JUL-2014: Crane appeared to be assembling or disassembling the other in the SV images on Upper Marsh just before the railroad underpass
>>16794284 SV-MAY-2014 views from Westminster Bridge. Apex of each crane in these images stood higher than neighbouring Park Plaza Hotel, which stood between cranes and The Eye
>>16794303 SV-MAY-2014 York House worksite cranes visible from Parliament Square/ Westminster Bridge Road. Boom apex taller than neighbouring rooftops, as seen from afar
>>16794638 Reverse views a) from railtracks looking back toward LE and b) from within the new building looking toward LE (links)
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938b77 No.16800117
>>16772531
The 14DEC2013 vid has a nice confirm of the 2 red crane lights near ‘urbanest’ around same time as the Kemp (Getty) pic on 14DEC2013-T.
The 2 red cranes in the 14DEC vid match the location for the single red crane light in the vid posted 23NOV2013.
See a comparison of caps from the 2 vids looking left of and behind the carousel on South Bank.
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3da09c No.16800121
Notables are NOT Endorsements
passing 450
#47
>>16720935, >>16721106 Anons notices the constellations visible despite city lights in 2018 Alamy stock pic
>>16724490 Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732365 Man acquitted re Air India bombing has been shot in Canada
>>16732851 From General Research: World Health Organization Officially States That There Are More Than Two Biological Genders
>>16749548 Request for Anons: Please show the following video (Winter Wonderland) to a normie. The purpose is to test this video for ease of comprehension
>>16770726, >>16770746 Devin Nunes announced on podcast Truth Social is open in the UK
>>16800111 Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16800114 Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16800115 Updated Other References Bun
>>16800116 Urbanest Bun
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3da09c No.16802042
They went to do it again
Got nearly 100 posts in before the bread was locked
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3da09c No.16802701
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. NYE 2013/2014, posted 7 JAN 2014, this one is from the Marriot County Hall hotel behind the Eye.
Another one of those tourist videos where the camera is not exactly still. The one minute mark there's the hoarding at the little Westminster tower, looks like several cranes south of Westminster, a not brightly lit Millbank but that nightclub near the top has blue lights on.
4:04 and two bright red light visible over County Hall to the right of the Eye as they record the tv screen
Vidanon might be able to get something useful out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC-RQ4s3gs4
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938b77 No.16810359
>>16794882
I think St. Thomas is just a tad bit right of the target. Observe the bearing to twin red lights cuts through LE on lower left of the wheel. The bearing to the white light is just a little left of being in line with the leftmost chimney structure on the front of the Marriott -County Hall but is also lined up with the middle of the wheel of LE. See caps.
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fa237c No.16811129
>>16810359
TY Anon.
You have plotted lines of sight for
1. The red lights/ cranes behind LE that are now well-linked to the York House worksite (no Urbanest) via open sauce pics, including SV and GE images.
2. The big and bright white object behind LE that has been part of lunar and tidal info digs.
We may have need for one or two more such calculations of lines of sight from you, fren.
3. The dim light that was captured in ROT_1 farther to the right of camera frame. This may have at least two candidate worksites.
3a. The worksite behind the various buildings of St Thomas Hospital at which a large crane worked.
3b. The worksite farther along the riverside, closer to the Compton House worksite (now the Corniche) neighbouring the Riverbank Plaza Hotel (the pink/ purple bulding in Q pics) on the Albert Emankment.
3a and 3b can be better located through proxies, such as the SV and GE images posted previously upbread or previous breads; or such as Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T daylight pic of the Alberta Embankment from Westminster Bridge. These two positions are closely lined-up in terms of the view in ROT_1 and EMB pics and because of the greater distances may seem to overlap within the Q camera frames.
For clarity; I think the two red lights now tied to two cranes at the York House worksite are at the same or nearly the same location as the single red light captured in the 23-NOV–2013-P vid and in the 14-DEC-2013-T pic.
BUT I think that single red light is NOT the same as the single red light captured in 25-DEC-2013-T; the positions are different. It is that additional red light that I think is associated with 3a or 3b.
The red light/s now tied to the York House worksite appeared as a pair in ROT_1, even if there may have been times at which only one of the of THOSE two red lights were captured in open sauces. That may be a marker, as Anons have discussed. It could be a very significant marker, indeed, one vs two red lights at York House worksite.
The other single red light 3a/3b is different, I think, based on position in open sauces. (The flag/pole helps figure that out.) AND I think it is different based on the possibilities within ROT_1 and other EMB pics.
IF that additional single red light, captured in a stock photo, 25-DEC-2013-T, was captured in ROT_1, for example, as a dim source of light on the skyline father away along the riverside, then, its height becomes a significant sub-marker.
If that additional red light was on a crane, ts height prolly varied during stages of demoliton/construction. Its height would have to have been just-so to appear as it did in 25-DEC-2013-T, barely peaking over the rooftops of County Hall.
Now, another factor is the elevation of the riverside; it may be higher or lower at the LE than at the worksites at St Thomas or Albert Embankment, IDK.
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3da09c No.16827041
General Research #21210 >>16826798
==W.H.O. Appoints Veteran Communist Party of Britain Member to Advisory Panel
A veteran Communist Party of Britain member has been appointed chair of a World Health Organisation (W.H.O.) lead advisory group.
Professor Susan Michie, director of the Centre for Behaviour Change at University College London (UCL), will head the W.H.O.’s Technical Advisory Group (TAG) on Behavioural Insights and Sciences for Health.
The Times reports the UCL academic, who is a frequent contributor on the BBC and ITV, has been a member of the Communist Party of Britain for more than 40 years.
Michie was propelled to public attention in 2021 when she said wearing masks and social distancing should continue for the “long term” to suppress the Chinese coronavirus and other diseases, as Breitbart London reported.
The academic was a member of the influential Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) at the time which advised Downing Street on how to respond to the pandemic. She said “people’s behaviour” was key in controlling the pandemic.
Michie told Channel 5, according to the Daily Telegraph: “That is the behaviour of social distancing, of when you’re indoors, making sure there’s good ventilation or if it’s not, wearing face masks, of hands and surface hygiene.
“We will need to keep this going in the long term and that will be good not only for Covid, but also to reduce others [sic] diseases.”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/07/26/w-h-o-appoints-veteran-uk-communist-party-member-to-advisory-panel/
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225568 No.16827177
>>16827041
>She said “people’s behaviour” was key in controlling the pandemic.
She meant to say, “ the pandemic was key to controlling people’s behaviour.”
These satanist communists always say things backwards.
Ironically, as their “masks” come off, they make you mask up.
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fa237c No.16827335
>>16800117 >>16811129 >>16810359
Have identified two additional cranes in ROT_1. Anons have already identified the two red lights/ cranes at the York House worksite. These appear on the far left side of the Q camera frame.
Farther to the right are the other two cranes. One is above the rooftop of St Thomas and the other is toward Albert Embankment at a worksite for a very tall building, Parliament House Apartments.
When I have some time I'll post the pictorial evidence. For now the consequence of these two finds is as follows.
Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T shows a red light just above the rooftop of County Hall; it is also higher than the rooftop of St Thomas Hospital. This red light is not one of the lights/cranes at York House worksite which is too far to the left in Setterfield.
This raised a problem. Between the LE and Albert Embankment there was a crane with a fixed boom and its cab light was usually on in dark hours; it was white, not red. How could that light not be visible within the camera frame of Setterfield WHILE at the same time a red light/crane would be visible although its location was farther away and behind St Thomas worksite?
The evidence shows that the St Thomas crane/light was not tall enough to appear over the rooftops in Setterfield; but there was a taller crane farther away in the same general direction.
Views from the LE, from other elevated vantages, and on the River Thames provide the evidence of this.
And other open source images, including dated stock photos, provide excellent reference points to map to ROT_1 for identification of these lights/cranes. both in daylight and night views.
This means that the details in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T have been reconciled with the other December 2013 images that show the lights/cranes over the York House worksite (now URBANEST); and all four of these lights/cranes appear in ROT_1.
While this does not narrow the time interval for ROT_1, it removes a problem which could have eliminated Christmas Day or, at the very least, threw it up in the air as a possible mismatch.
Here is a GE image marked up to show locations of the various lights/cranes relative to the LE and County Hall. Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T was taken from the Waterloo Bridge, or a building behind the bridge. This is supported by GE and SV images. The mark-up here shows the line of sight from camera through the LE to St George; Millbank also appears in Setterfield and its position is in accord with this illustration.
The camera's line of sight to St George is depicted in light blue. The line of sight to the distant red light/crane that appear just above County Hall and St Thomas is depicted in light red.
Moar later.
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fa237c No.16827412
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Here's a curious incident. Helicopter crashed into craine. Near Vauxhill.
Might the bright white light in ROT_1 be a helicopter search light that just happened to be directed toward the Q camera position?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBKnz8pX5a8
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fa237c No.16827420
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Vid on crane raising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx5Qt7_ECEE
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3da09c No.16827443
>>16827412
In the Counting Cranes Bun, happened January 2013. Crane hit was the one working on St. George's
>>16766354, >>16767268, >>16769475 January 2013, helicopter collides with crane at St George Tower. Civil Aviation Authority confirmed red aviation warning lights on tall structures only need to be turned on at night - and not during bad weather in daylight hours - because they are not visible in fog or low cloud
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fa237c No.16827462
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Dude who climbs cranes for fun. In the dark. In this instance, to view the River Thames sights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG69xvbK3KU
At mrk 1:04 he stood at the red light on the crane boom. But that was in 2015 so … just for the keks.
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fa237c No.16827479
>>16827443
Wild that the copter flew so close to the buildings in that vicinity, regardless of weather conditions. Yikes.
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fa237c No.16827492
>>16827443
Maybe it was on security duty? Construction site and such.
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fdde41 No.16827528
>>16696461
These guys need the Easter Island treatment.
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f1e6e0 No.16827535
>>16781344
>>16794164
Shut the fuck and go back to /deepdigs/. You fucking idiots got caught for theTHIRDtime now trying to take over the Q movement and failed. Dan S. BTFO of you, your SALT rotation was noticed, and the custom trip setting has been exposed. NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. And when I say no one. I mean it.
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740132 No.16827548
>>16689693
One of these is not like the other.
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1f34b0 No.16827558
>>16700407
TYB
Joyce Karam
@Joyce_Karam
The 10 Republicans Supporting Gun Deal in Senate
Cornyn
Tillis
Blunt
Burr
Cassidy
Collins
Graham
Portman
Romney
Toomey
Makes it immune to filibuster (60)
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/ … 5801347073
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3da09c No.16827573
>>16827492
You may require a spanking, the article has the info on where it was going
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225568 No.16838243
>>16827573
We def be over target. ((((NEW))) shills added since bread attacks. They sound panicked. And some RED text too. Ooooooh.
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fa237c No.16838274
>>16827335
Salamanca worksite (now Parliament House Apartments), GE images.
GE-AUG-2013
SV-JUN-2014
GooMAPS
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fa237c No.16838305
>>16827335
Parliament House Apartments = PHA
Very tall crane, verticially mobile jib, tight worksite below. This is the best candidate for the red light in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T.
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fa237c No.16838436
>>16838305
Reference pics from Waterloo Bridge 2015 re South Bank and LE and County Hall rooftop.
Note the crane with the fixed jib at St Thomas worksite was recorded at same time as the crane/s over York House worksite. That worksite's crane/s changed over the itnerim but did not reach the space above the County Hall that was occupied by a red light in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T.
Use as reference for the detail shown on County Hall upper windows and rooftop.
Original source.
24-APR-2015-P
https://youtu.be/dPgsePU5Vn4
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3da09c No.16838452
>>16838243
Dear Fren
The digs here are tightening the time within days
South Africa is showing direct connection between a company name Glencore (keep that and Xstrata in min) and the founder pardoned by Bill Clinton in 1994
End days of July 2022 to the shill's bosses must seem like end days of July 1944 to Luftwaffe ant-aircraft gunners. Maybe an entire hour passes between one set of bombers overhead is replaced by another set. Not sure of anybody's overall Strategy, but that kaboom is coming down
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225568 No.16838470
>>16827335
Okay, am not sure if I am finding things you guys have already noticed because I have find myself tryna catch up to what you are saying. You’ve changed the names of some sauces which kinda threw me off but I figured out a couple of those.
I also am kind of single minded when discussing certain landmarks so I just have to work out what you are saying one at a time. Am trying to keep up with you so hope my obs and comments aren’t too confused.
Anyway, IF this is what you are talking about re ROT1 not capturing the white cabin light of that crane you are talking about, take a look at these caps. Could that be the same crane in both pics? With both red light and cabin light?
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225568 No.16838502
>>16838470
Sorry, my post was in response to your comment:
>This raised a problem. Between the LE and Albert Embankment there was a crane with a fixed boom and its cab light was usually on in dark hours; it was white, not red. How could that light not be visible within the camera frame of Setterfield WHILE at the same time a red light/crane would be visible although its location was farther away and behind St Thomas worksite?
This the crane you referring to?
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fa237c No.16838574
>>16838305 >>16827335
Another reference source, vid, 14-OCT-2014-P.
14 OCT-2014-P https://youtu.be/BK-VeVlrzhk
Vidcaps show the view of the rooftops along the riverside between County Hall and Albert Embankment.
Look for the copper tower over County Hall (location of Seaworld), St Thomas crane, PHA worksite crane, 18 Albert Embankment, St George and Millbank towers. The daylight images show the approximate trajectory that had been captured in Setterfield - through the hub of the LE and to St George Tower in the far distance.
The green copper tower is a gud reference point when making comparisons with other DEC-2013 images previously posted in the crane dig. The tower is closer to riverside and the shoreline position of the LE than it is to the railroad track side and York House worksite.
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fa237c No.16838591
>>16838574 >>16827335
Also, here is a panorma made from this vid's view of the area behind County Hall and Albert Embankment. In addition to reference points already noted, there appears to be no potential source for a big bright white light as per ROT_1. This may add weight to the lunar data/analysis.
Note that this vid was recorded during daylight. Prolly working hours at the York House worksite. The crane activity there is not very apparent over the rooftops, but this may be during the interim after demoliton had been completed and the next stage of development was being prepped. IDK.
Panorma made from 14 OCT-2014-P
https://youtu.be/BK-VeVlrzhk
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fa237c No.16838600
>>16838502
>>16838470
B.I.N.G.O.
Noice to have your independent confirmation. Moar pictorial evidence coming down the pipe to support your observs.
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fa237c No.16838676
>>16827335 >>16838274 >>16838600
GooMaps on the ground reference links. Use this to orientate re the vid of the Christmas market on South Bank. Look for the flag, the riverside of County Hall's rooftop, and the view through the LE toward St George Tower.
SV-MAY-2016
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5054112,-0.1185225,3a,15.4y,186.31h,98.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAifXhOqtQvnD2h0klaShqA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DAifXhOqtQvnD2h0klaShqA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D296.84906%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
Another example
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5052361,-0.1186044,3a,75y,174.76h,93.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUSSIIo60nHvgALLwDzOnUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Another, JUN-2014
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5053358,-0.1184192,2a,51.2y,178.74h,102.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS71f96LJ6wrmbaypaa84ng!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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fa237c No.16838819
Reference points in SV images for comparison with Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T. View from Waterloo Bridge.
SV-MAY-2014
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5088196,-0.1171405,3a,16.9y,189.18h,94.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPO72lUEKdwJ_5z50zQoSEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Try different months, years, and viewing locations on the bridge. St George Tower can be captured 'inside' the rim of the LE. This approximates Setterfield.
From this can look for potential sources of the red light/ crane that appeared in Setterfield 25-DEC-2013-T - over the County Hall rooftop and therefore over the St Thomas rooftop also.
Here is a markup to use as refernce for the markers.
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fa237c No.16838887
>>16838819
Note that there are two structures on the County Hall roof below which are windows. Look for the red arrow that points to the 2nd such structure from the riverside and then count about 4 windows farther to the left of camera frame. Above that spot is approximately where the additional red light appeared in Setterfield. This position is beyond the limits of the two cranes over the York House worksite. Even if one of the booms could reach that far, at night it would not be parked over the roadways, I think.
On the other hand, farther along the riverside there are a few candidates for a red crane light. The best is the very tall crane at PHA (near 18 Albert Embankment).
See Setterfield up bread. >>16827335
Compare with the undated image we got from the 24LONDON photo competition. Then map to ROT_1.
When I've moar time will illustrate with a vid. The significance is to account for the additional red light that was not on a crane at the York House worksite. Those two cranes were accounted for previously in the dig. This one appeared on 25-DEC-2013-T and if it could not have been reconciled with ROT_1 that would have thrown a monkey wrench into the analysis based on the red lights captured in ROT_1. This resolves that.
Here is a 2015 SV image to use as reference and to proof the basic concept of a tall crane behind St Thomas..
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fa237c No.16839059
>>16838819 >>16838887
Here is a nigh vid from the vantge of a capsule on the LE.
https://youtu.be/pLPEB83tQOQ
While it was recorded the Christmas week during the year AFTER the Q pics were taken, this vid shows the riverside and the area between the EYE and the Albert Embankment and the railroad tracks.
By this time there were many more development projects underway. Red lights on cranes all over the place. Some of which illustrate how tall cranes could provide lights that might be seen from LE hovering over County Hall and St Thomas.
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fa237c No.16839212
>>16839059 >>16838819
There are other useful details in that vid of DEC-2014 from the LE at night. Of course, the pink building was clearly on display. Also, the Speaker's apartments at Westminster Palace was darkened. No flood lights on that corner of the House of Commons. But there were lights in the windows. Gud for comparison with LisaMI6 and related open sauces. This vid also captured the TATT in its position at night, during the Christmas season, while the funnel was still white on top. This was also before the HISP altered its colour scheme to pink, pink, pink.
Observs, anons?
Will return later with more on ROT_1 crane lights. Anons are prolly ahead of the game on this so will draw attention to the Albert Embankment in the following images.
Wrigley 25-OCT-2014-T
Chadwick 18-SEP-2013-T
ALAMY 10-AUG-2013-T
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225568 No.16839326
>>16838436 >jibs
>>16838887 >booms
Arghh, mateys it warms the heart to be in the company of seagoin’ lads such as yerselfs speakin nautical. I can smell the salty air. Ahhhh. Keks in pirate.
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fa237c No.16839587
>>16839212
Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T
Marked up for comparison with other open sauces and with ROT-1 (and other EMB pics).
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fa237c No.16839606
>>16839587
Anons if you detect flaws in this stream of info and/or mark-ups, please let me know.
For clarity: the arrow pointing to the Crane of St Thomas worksite is aimed at the counter-boom where the counter-weights would be loaded. The much longer boom is off-camera; the op's cabin is at the frame's edge, also off-camera. This image displays two different kinds of tower cranes.
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fa237c No.16839678
>>16839326
Kek. Funny how lubber crane jabber mixes and matches with the gab and rutters of watery hearties when at Briney's Edge.
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fa237c No.16839707
>>16838887
Drat, here's the marked-up version of that pic.
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fa237c No.16839818
>>16838470
For clarity: Anon has identified the tall crane at the Samanaca worksite (Parliament House Apartments) near 18 Albert Embankment.
The other crane in ROT_1 is the one behind St Thomas and which is of a different kind. Its cab is white and appeared just at the rooftop. sometimes it was obscured but in ROT_1 it can be made-out from the opposite of the river where the Q camera was.
Note the differences in height between these two cranes and note where the cabs are vis-a-vis the main tower.
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fa237c No.16839829
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fa237c No.16839847
>>16827335
An alternative to the tall crane at PHA would be the crane behind St Thomas - if its tower was raised and the crane used a red light on its boom and parked at night just so. The Green copper tower on Count Hall might have blocked the cab light, in such an instance.
Either way, the additional red light is accounted for now.
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fa237c No.16840421
>>16827573
The bright light, if it was a helicopter's search light, might have been on security duty?
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fa237c No.16840596
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225568 No.16841086
>>16839829
Anon, do you think the red crane light in near vertical position above the purple building in 24LONDON might also be seen in ROT1 but in a slightly canted (larboard) orientation above purple building?
Sorry for poor quality of graphic due to zooming. See the red light in ROT1? Almost lost in pixelation.
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225568 No.16841130
>>16841086
Idk. I see it in one cap as red then not in another. Maybe it is just pixelation but it is a RED pixel.
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225568 No.16841208
>>16840421
Not saying it’s not a searchlight but in my experience, say with a police copter, they 99% of the time won’t fly level with the search light on while just traveling in a straight line. They (police) normally use infrared to spy about and only turn on the bright searchlight when they are keen on spotting something they noticed on the ground, and the light will be noticeably pointed downward in those activities.
Have I seen a copter flying straight and level with the searchlight left on and facing forward? Yes but it appeared they had momentarily forgotten to turn it off. Nao, is anon saying a ‘private’ company copter might be hired to patrol jobsites (that would be quite an expense when immensely less expensive security guards are the norm), or that it might be a municipal police copter? Imho, would not expect a police patrol copter in that area unless something big had happened or was foreseen. Just my thots on it being a helo.
But looking at ROT1, there seems only sky above those chimneys of the Marriott hotel.
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3da09c No.16929351
The spammers are still out there, for now gong to have to deal with a captcha per post
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92a13d No.16930639
>>16929351
BO’s on the case. Got those blighters in a box now. A captcha box.
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b0132f No.16930780
>>16841208
Agreed. Your firsthand insight is also useful in consideration of all possible alternatives to the high probability of a big moon captured in ROT_1. Process of elimination.
Here is another bit of pictorial evidence that supports the big moon as highy likely. This image was recorded 20-NOV-2014, almost a year AFTER the Q interval for EMB pics. So serves as a reference for modestly close proximity chronologically and for modestly close proximity for camera vantage and angle of view. Lower elevation, natch, as it appears to have been taken from the ramp that leads to the HISP gangplank.
In the marked-up version, note the sky over the rooftops of St Thomas as well as that over County Hall. The bright white object left of frame appears to be low enough to be on a trajectory that fairly approximated a big moon; whether or not that would match-up with late-NOV-2013 lunar evidece, IDK, but am guessing this was a full moon rather than waning moon.
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b0132f No.16930802
>>16930780
Marked up version of 20-NOV-2014 ShutterStock.
Sauce stock vid, date taken 20-NOV-2014
https://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/14657659/preview/stock-footage-london-by-night-with-london-eye-in-red-london-england-november.webm
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b0132f No.16930808
>>16930802
Marked-up version of 20-NOV-2014.
Corrected for error in text in graphic.
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3da09c No.16930810
>>16930780
>>16930802
The pic with the Eye in red? The bright white light is on TATTERSHALL CASTLE's foremast
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b0132f No.16930813
>>16930808
>Lower elevation, natch, as it appears to have been taken from the ramp that leads to the HISP gangplank.
Correction:
Lower elevation, natch, as it appears to have been taken from the beside the steps that leads to the TATT gangplank.
Errors are organick and on the Qt.
KEK.
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b0132f No.16930816
>>16930810
Good Eye.
Yeh, that bright light on mast was in multiple pics across time. Well, this illustrates how process of elimination works. Guessing that the "full moon" has been a sort of selling feature for that stock photo. Oye. Had me sold on it.
TY Anon.
PS anyone else getting lots of Qs in captcha?
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b0132f No.16930824
>>16930810
Correction made to marked-up version of 20-NOV-2014 Shutterstock.
>>16930808
>>16930802
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b0132f No.16930830
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b0132f No.16930944
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b0132f No.16930966
>>16930944 >>16930830
ROT_1 refresh, marked-up sky above buildings, enhanced for higher exposure to mark-up crane over Samanaca worksite.
Rough representation of crane boom-cab-tower.
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b0132f No.16930995
>>16930830
Previously, Anon detected another crane, possibly, along the Albert Embankment over the worksites around Riverbank Hotel - the purple building.
>>16841086
Here is an enlargment with adjustment for exposure in that vicinity along the skyline.
This one is even more difficult to pullout of the pixels of ROT_1 but, never say never.
Okay, so we have loads from the skyline that help to date ROT_1 for mid to late December 2013, plausibly Christmas week, and very possibly the day or two around Christmas da/night.
Am working on similar mark-up for the street/ground/river level of ROT_1; that is complicated by the many shared features with the other EMB pics, including LisaMI6 and so might be best treated in a vid rather than single markup.
Request: Anons please list the markers that you have found or that you think should be added to the list for ROT_1. For example, the skyline markup included TATT's funnel (white on top) which pushed the Q time interval back to at least early 2015; and then the adboards at HISP entrance pushed back to winter 2013/2014; and then the rarely captured signboard on the riverbank wall pushed back to Christmas week (22-DEC-2013 became stake in the ground around which other markers provided context).
Also reminder that owe a detailed analysis of the street traffic in the EMB pics and in the related CH pics. This has been done with rough images that may best be depicted in a series of infographics rather than video. But maybe both will be needed to illustrate the movement of some vehicles and the static positon of others. SO if Anons have observs to add on the traffic, please list them even if may seem redundant at this point Better to be comprehensive, I think.
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b0132f No.16931039
>>16930995
Must add that the pattern of window lights on MILLBANK Tower has been crucial in pushing the Q interval back to Christmas week. The pattern is more difficult to depict in broad mark-ups of ROT_1, however, this is not to imply less significance to the analysis and discussion that has been undertaken on the distinctiveness of the Millbank marker.
Have been gathering images of Millbank's window lighting, as per upbread and previous breads, and it has become more and more obvious that the pattern in ROT_1 is an excellent marker for Chistmas week. The main difficulty is in relaying that especially for new eyes. The first goal is to decisively date the Q London pics as narrowly as plausible. The next goal is to narrow further based on high likelihood. Beyond that we can add speculations and conjecture so as to fill-in the gaps, as it were.
The Millbank tower window lights are augmented by the rooftop illumination. And, it mays seem odd at this moment, but I think the lighting on the facade and in the windows of the Speaker's apartments works very well in combination with Millb ank to narrowly date the EMB pics - especially LisaMI6; but most of that is conjecture and needs more evidence to firm-up. The weight of Millbank tower lights has pulled the Speaker's apartment lighting into the mix quite strongly.
So, Anons, please review past breads on Millbank, refresh with new observs or additional conjecture. Perhaps consider digging for more DEC-2013 images that depict the lighting changes or lighting consistencies.
At the moment am thinking that this topic credibly merits its own focussed infographics and vids as per EMB pics as a series. Muich progress has been made around the other markers and if we can pull more out of Millbank then illustrating its significance becomes that much more significant and, pragmatically, that much more worth the effort to depict decisively – BEFORE conjecture.
WWG1WGA
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b0132f No.16931052
>>16929351
dat werks well
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b0132f No.16931066
>>16841086
Yes, fren, that seems plausible to me. The reason I depicted that particular crane as more forward, toward the camera, is that there is no credible alternative crane at THAT location and it matched-up very well. So, not 100% yet. This means the less forward position more close to 18 Albert Embankment remains in the running, natch.
The iterations in this particular markup have not come to a close, yet.
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92a13d No.16931088
>>16930966
Anon, just some questions I have on my mind:
1)I’m sorry I have forgotten the official photo you reference as Bright Sister. Could you tell me that please?
2) Was the name of that worksite you refer to as Samanaca not Salamanca (a Spanish town name) or was it actually Samanaca? Sorry can’t find.
3) What do anons think about the possibility that we can actually see the St. George Tower peeking over the shoulder of MILLBANK? I remember mentioning it LONG ago but anons never picked up on it. Imho I can see its red light on top, AND its own pattern of lights (*which may also provide a point of comparison if we search its own Christmas portraits.)
And an unrelated request in response to your request about EMB markers. Could you please include a brief discussion or mention about the wheely bins seen by the tree between the gangplanks of TATTERSHALL CASTLE and how they are missing in the LISAMI6 pic making it an outlier among the whole EMB series please?
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b0132f No.16931097
Here is a panorama created from images in a ShutterStock video, taken circa December 2013 (as per the filename and description).
Shutterstock
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-5542220-london-united-kingdom—circa-december-2013
https://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5542220/preview/stock-footage-london-united-kingdom-circa-december-night-view-of-london-eye-observation-wheel-on-river.webm
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b0132f No.16931102
>>16931097
Same sauce. Vidcaps used for Panorama.
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b0132f No.16931115
Cap of Shutterstock website showing ca DEC 2013 vid of LE and skyline along River Thames.
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b0132f No.16931117
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92a13d No.16931122
>>16931066
I think I might not have been clear in describing where I thought my red ghost pixel crane was located. I simply linked to the post with one of the pictures being 24LONDON. I was not saying you placed anything wrongly. I was agreeing with all the cranes you placed but noticed in the pixellation a red pixel where no other crane was, UNLESS the crane (behind?) the purple building had moved. I understand this is saying A LOT. In fact it could place ROT1 on a different evening than 24LONDON. But that wouldn’t throw a wrench into our timeline. It might however put 24LONDON on a different evening within our Christmas +/- 1 day period. See my picrel re my pixel. ;-) I speculate, yes, how the crane boom could have changed position.
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b0132f No.16931129
>>16755927
TY ANON.
Correction made.
Salamanca Place is the name of the street and the name used for the worksite in the mark-up. It is the site of Parliament House Apartments aka PHA.
>Salamanca (a Spanish town name)
Noice detail.
>>16755927
>>16838274
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/e627e09c49f01a5cbed616ab09ae3f218a5d7c97eb3d3f2fcf030ca00c5fd751.png
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92a13d No.16931133
>>16931097
>>16931102
I think that/those pics are NOT from DECEMBER 2013. We are all know better than that. 1) no cranes behind LE, 2) look at tge hoarding on that small tower. Plus, I see no purple building.
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b0132f No.16931144
>>16931088
>3) What do anons think about the possibility that we can actually see the St. George Tower peeking over the shoulder of MILLBANK? I remember mentioning it LONG ago but anons never picked up on it. Imho I can see its red light on top, AND its own pattern of lights (*which may also provide a point of comparison if we search its own Christmas portraits.)
For emphasis: St. George Tower peeking over the shoulder of MILLBANK
To confirm plausibility, need rto check other open sources. For example, there are many SV views from Waterloo Bridge that could line-up. Also from Hungerford Bridge. But there may be others from the river and such.
Some daylight pics work better on this sort of thing because the rooftops easier to distinguish when "layered" in still photos.
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b0132f No.16931172
>>16931133
The date taken posted at Shutterstock was "CIRCA DECEMBER, 2013".
We do not know that the cranes behind LE were always parked above the rooftops. We do know that sometimes they appeared lower.
Depended on stages of site prep, demolition, construction, tear-down. Early December appeared to be an in-between phase at the worksite during which the ground demolition was completed, site prep was made for foundations, and the cranes may not have been in same place as previously and afterwards.
All of that needs to be firmed up better.
The hoarding on the tower behind Big Ben varied in form, as per the dig on the "shroud", and you have made an excellent observ on that score. The form of summer to winter was taken down before December 2013. Not sure of the narrowed date for that or if we have determined it yet. Could have been November 2013, IDK.
The purple facade was not always lit-up, for some reason. The observ is gud as it might lead to another way to narrow the time interval.
The cranes behind LE were not always parked above the rooftops. Depended on stages of demoliton/ construction.
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92a13d No.16931199
>>16931144
>Some daylight pics work better on this sort of thing because the rooftops easier to distinguish when "layered" in still photos.
We would need night pics or dusk like the 25LONDON Setterfield set. See a kind of “S” building light pattern on St. George? See picrels
>>16931172
>Not sure of the narrowed date for that or if we have determined it yet. Could have been November 2013, IDK.
I am thinking how that SEPT 2013 pic up bread lacked any cranes behind LE.
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b0132f No.16931202
>>16931088
>wheely bins seen by the tree between the gangplanks of TATTERSHALL CASTLE and how they are missing in the LISAMI6 pic making it an outlier among the whole EMB series
This also is an excellent observ that has proven very difficult to depict in a broad mark-up. It is a significant marker in context of the EMB series.
For the list of ground markers for ROT_1 specifically, could you help with a refresh? Please mark the target area on >>16930830 . Let me know if an enlargement or exposure adjust mght help.
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b0132f No.16931215
>>16931088
>Bright Sister.
Will do. Gud idea to bring the related images together again for another refersh. The dig is closing in and time to take stock and nail the details that can be illustrated for new eyes.
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b0132f No.16931229
>>16931122
There were two cranes behind the riverside buildings and given the angle of 24LONDON your speculation is credible, for sure. Even farther back from the Corniche and Dumont there was a worksite with tall cranes. Upbread or previous bread may have an image showing this. Possible GE? Hands full at the moment or I'd dig it up for you to doublecheck on these cranes.
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92a13d No.16931256
>>16931202
>>16931202
>For the list of ground markers for ROT_1 specifically, could you help with a refresh? Please mark the target area on >>16930830 .
Re wheely bins seen in Embankment pics and not in LISAMI6. See pics from past bread(s).
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b0132f No.16931282
>>16931199
Yes, recall that distinction between the two towers. It is an itnerdasting observ. The camera angle needed to reproduce or to simulate the towers in that formation has been tough to find. And that may be the reason it has not been advanced further.
There are four target areas that diggers might scrutinize more for potential markers. Here is a closeup of those four areas.
1. The space between the purpble building and the treeline at Bridge Street.
2. Millbank/St George lighting patterns.
3. Hoarding changes behind Big Ben.
4. Foot of Elizabeth Tower (Big Ben).
While this is specific to ROT_1, that should not limit digs on those areas as depicted in the EMB pics, including LisaMI6.
Something we have learned in the various digs on London Pics is that the empty spaces, or the seemingly gaps between obvious markers, can hold quite a good deal of content relevant to dating these images. These four areas have been overlooked, to some degree, and so have them on my list to dig deeper. Hope anons will dig in on those areas or others that have caught your attention.
Also, am trying to augment the lazer focus on dating each London pic with the notion that 2014/2016 markers may be relevant to the significance or meaning of the London Q drops overall. So moar of a broad view, time-wise.
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b0132f No.16931284
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b0132f No.16931338
>>16931256
Here's a partial mark-up of ROT_1 ground that depicts the target area for the trash bins marker.
Anon, please add text for refresh.
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b0132f No.16931466
>>16931172
Vantage on Lambeth Bridge. Lotsa Cranes.
SV-OCT-2014 so much diff stages about year later. Still shows potential worksites to dig for werk being done in DEC-2013.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4946471,-0.1241284,3a,76.3y,90.41h,104.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_Z_jgrYsw8E-DhTJer_7Vw!2e0!5s20141001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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b0132f No.16931570
>>16931088 >>16931129
>>16931122 >>16931466
SV-MAY-2012
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4918964,-0.1204257,3a,90y,44.57h,163.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUfvte3G03WMbtPRyefuGwg!2e0!5s20120501T000000!7i13312!8i6656
SV-MAY-2016
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4918938,-0.1204111,3a,75y,44.57h,163.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sx9qUh2_1fONYKt8KSEtgSw!2e0!5s20160501T000000!7i13312!8i6656
A second apartment tower was added at Parliament House Apartments. This is the location of the Salamanca worksite and the crane I think was captured in ROT_1.
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b0132f No.16931580
>>16931199
GE-AUG-2013 marked up to show approx line of sight from footbridge past Millbank Tower to St George Tower.
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b0132f No.16931698
>>16930944
>>16841086
>>16839587
>>16838591
>>16838470
>>16838436
>>16827335
>>16838305
>>16930995 >>16931122
GE-AUG-2013 marked-up to show location of various cranes and worksites along Albert Embankment plus the site behind the railtracks. That was on Tinworth St, so tagged it as the Tinworth worksite.
The markup also highlights in yellow the length of shadows of each crane. Salamanca and Tinworth were prolly close to the same height at the time this image was taken. Things may have changed later. Tinworth demolition stage looked nearly completed. Salamanca was well into the construction stage and the crane would reach above the height of the existing apartment tower.
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b0132f No.16933179
>>16931133 >>16931097
Here is another vidcap froms ame sauce re circa DEC-2013, Shutterstock.
Lots of bright white objects cross the cloudy night sky behind LE. Flights, I suppose. Any chance one of these was the moon? If no, ok. If, yes, then, might its trajectory be compared with big moons in NOV-DEC-2013 to see if can eliminate those two months for the dating of this stock vid?
Prolly the hoarding behind Big Ben is the better bet, if can find the latest date for the summer form and the earliest date for the winter form.
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3da09c No.16935441
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. From Previous bread: NYE Timelapse 2013/2014 Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OjQHt2UUqg
1:48 Two crane cab lights above River Plaza Winchester, York House site - Urbanest construction; hoarding on tower at Westminster. Fairly darkened Millbank, St George Tower peeking out from behind; at least one crane above St. Thomas Hospital. Bright cab light and dim boom light at site of Parliament House Apartments
2:34 View from within LE pod hoarding at Westminster; 2:38 dimly lit Millbank and what could a group of cranes to the West
3:16 View from water level, one possible crane cab light over County Hall
3:29 Two crane cab lights where Urbanest site would be. One over St Thomas, one at Parliament House Apartments site. Still dimly lit Millbank
3:53 Fireworks begin, Southbank Plaza building lit up indicating start of 2014
Anons may notice, but our little purple hotel does not seem lit, I think would be visible at 3:40 and just after
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cf299b No.16935509
>>16933179
Well, I see one bright sky object which could have that kind of directional beam effect if peering thru clouds mebbe.
But more importantly what has caught my eye is the single crane to the far right where I would expect 2 cranes as seen in our 14DEC sauce. Up til nao we had a 21 day delta from our 23NOV vid showing just one crane behind LE.
Do you think it is possible you have found a closer bookend for one crane in the month of DEC?
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cf299b No.16935588
>>16935509
This vid, though misdated, can show that the single crane behind LE may have appeared sooner than 23NOV2013. This is a very interesting pic. I place it between the Chadwick 18SEP2013, with no cranes behind LE, and the 23NOV2013 vid with one crane behind LE. This timing would comport with your previous bookends for the change in hoardings on the towers at Westminster, no?
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cf299b No.16935748
>>16933179
Tried to load that vid. The site kept failing to load and trying to load and just sitting there. I got a ‘site crashed message’ I think from just me trying to load that stupid vidya. Guess I can wait til some anon puts out a short version.
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3da09c No.16936038
>>16787620
20 Sep 2012 article mentions Red Bull Academy taking over London Eye for each pod as a club
https://crackmagazine.net/article/news/red-bull-music-academy/
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d1d90f No.16936057
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b0132f No.16937097
>>16935441
>1:48 Two crane cab lights above River Plaza Winchester, York House site - Urbanest construction; hoarding on tower at Westminster. Fairly darkened Millbank, St George Tower peeking out from behind; at least one crane above St. Thomas Hospital. Bright cab light and dim boom light at site of Parliament House Apartments
https://youtu.be/2OjQHt2UUqg?t=108
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b0132f No.16937114
>>16935441
>2:34 View from within LE pod hoarding at Westminster;
>2:38 dimly lit Millbank and what could a group of cranes to the West
https://youtu.be/2OjQHt2UUqg?t=154
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b0132f No.16937121
>>16935441
>3:16 View from water level, one possible crane cab light over County Hall
https://youtu.be/2OjQHt2UUqg?t=197
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b0132f No.16937136
>>16935441
>3:20 Hoarding on rooftop behind Big Ben.
>>16937121
>3:29 Two crane cab lights where Urbanest site would be. One over St Thomas, one at Parliament House Apartments site. Still dimly lit Millbank
https://youtu.be/2OjQHt2UUqg?t=209
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b0132f No.16937185
>>16935441
>3:53 Fireworks begin, Southbank Plaza building lit up indicating start of 2014
https://youtu.be/2OjQHt2UUqg?t=233
Anon, is that a full moon in topleft of frame?
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b0132f No.16937260
>>16930995
Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night.
06-JAN-2013
https://youtu.be/Dc3T2O4vMj0
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b0132f No.16937285
>>16937260
Another reversive view from same vid.
060JAN-2013
https://youtu.be/Dc3T2O4vMj0
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b0132f No.16937408
Possibly a lone crane light at York House worksite (now Urbanest) as viewed from Westminster Bridge.
Hoarding behind Big Ben matched other open sauces of DEC-2013.
Compare with SV-AUG-2013. That same hoarding took the form that appeared in summer/autumn of 2013. Meanwhile, also in SV-AUG-2013 on the River Thames, a single crane was captured in the location at which in SV-MAY-2014 on Westminster Bridge a pair of cranes was captured.
Thinking that tourist photos are very common on Westminster Bridge. Maybe there will be open sauce images with dates that show one crane in early DEC-2013 and two later. Should be a trarget rich time interval at THAT location. Really a matter of finding camera pointed in the right direction - 180-degs from Big Ben. Kek.
23-DEC-2013-P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rMJadxEjWU
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cf299b No.16937577
>>16937185
>Anon, is that a full moon in topleft of frame?
No. The opposite. A new moon. Item seen likely a lens flare.
For future use: https://www.mooncalc.org/#/51.5067,-0.1226,13/2013.12.31/23:59/1/3
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b0132f No.16937638
Well, this was an unexpected find. While looking for NOV/DEC-2013 images of cranes and the rooftop repairs behind Big Ben, came across this 24-NOV-2013-T.
For UK diggerz who recall the hunt for movie posters and schedules in late 2013 London West End as per the Ticket shack in the Red Bus pic, you might now have better details to find the Q-matching flicks..
The vid was filtered with an old-fashioned movie effect so the tint is off. But I do think the vidcap provides a very gud Q match for that ticket shack.
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b0132f No.16937642
>>16937577
Yeh, actually, on closer look it was a part of the firework show. Kek.
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b0132f No.16937673
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16937638
24-NOV-2013-T
https://youtu.be/7YErQn6Dgy8
Includes views of the Red Bus scene background, Piccadilly Circus, London Eye, and Big Ben.
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cf299b No.16937687
>>16933179
Anon, I have tried a coupla times and can’t get that vid to load. Anyone else have probs with that vid or is ut just me? I hate to go paranoid and think fuckery but how could I crash the shutterstock site by just tryna play a vid that won’t load? The site was supposedly designed to SHOW people vids and it crashes tryna load a vid? Kept getting “an error repeatedly occurred” message.
Well, unless one of you anons can get a snippet or shortened vid, this anon will never see that vid. So, I can’t comment on any sky objects. Can’t see if they are moving or not, plus spatial context etc.
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6a5683 No.16938143
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2a5879 No.16938678
Statutory Rape is Rape! It is Rape! Rape is Rape!
~It doesn't matter if the School Teacher is Female (Adult) and the victim is Male (Minor).
~Adult is Adult, Minor is Minor, Statutory Rape is Rape.
This is the kind of shit we are trying to get out of children's schools.
I shouldn't have to make an account on Truth Social just to report this motherfucking promoter of child rape, child sexual exploitation:
https://truthsocial.com/@trapt
https://truthsocial.com/@trapt/posts/108737678040586462
>inb4 use to be a horny teenage male
~~~
@realDonaldTrump
@DevinNunes
@DanScavino
@Kash
@Q
@truthsocial
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3da09c No.16938686
General Research #21238 >>16938175
Doomed UK Trans Kids Clinic Left ‘Thousands of Damaged Children’ In Its Wake
The Tavistock Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), England’s hub for child gender reassignment which has been ordered to close down, is said to have left “thousands of damaged children” in its wake.
Currently subject to an investigation as a result of whistleblowers, parents, and patients accusing it of rushing children, particularly girls, into medical treatment for supposed gender dysphoria, the Tavistock is now set to be shut down by Spring 2023 after the paediatrician leading the investigation announced some of her recommendations early — most notably that GIDS is “not a safe or viable long-term option” for its patients and should be replaced.
Reports by outlets such as The Telegraph are now looking back on 18 years of whistleblowing and complaints about the National Health Service (NHS) clinic and the way it resisted all efforts to make it change its ways all the way up to the High Court.
Some Tavistock clinicians were even accused of “converting” youngsters who were likely same-sex attracted or bisexual into believing they were actually trans.
The notionally right-leaning newspaper recalled how whistleblower Susan Evans had been fobbed off as long ago as 2004 after expressing worry that a 16-year-old boy had been referred for hormones after a mere four appointments. Another concerned clinician, Kirsty Entwistle, was branded “transphobic” for questioning the fact that an autistic girl enjoying Thomas the Tank Engine was used as evidence that she was trans.
Evans also highlighted the “tremendous pressure” the Tavistock was put under by trans activist lobby groups such as the controversial Mermaids organisation, which has campaigned for puberty blockers to be given to 12-year-olds and argued dubiously that their effects are “completely reversible”.
Indeed, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, the Members of Parliament (MPs) currently vying to succeed the outgoing Boris Johnson as Conservative (Tory) Party leader and, by extension, Prime Minister, have responded to the Tavistock’s looming shutdown by hinting that they might ban the NHS from inflicting hormone therapy on gender-confused children outright, questioning whether it is safe to let them make such “life-altering” decisions at a young age.
“We have a responsibility to those under 18 to shield them from irreversible decisions that will affect them for the rest of their lives. As Prime Minister, I would review access to puberty blockers to ensure we are maintaining the right checks and balances in the system to protect our young people,” said Truss, somewhat equivocally.
Sunak’s position was a little more forthright, with a spokesman for the former Chancellor of the Exchequer saying that “[c]hildren should not be rushed down irreversible medical pathways, and under-18s should be protected from life-altering treatments.”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/07/30/doomed-uk-trans-kids-clinic-left-thousands-of-damaged-children-in-its-wake/
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cf299b No.16938903
>>16938686
>Tavistock clinicians were even accused of “converting” youngsters who were likely same-sex attracted or bisexual into believing they were actually trans.
Not sure why exactly, but this reminded me of the old Thames tradition among riverine tradesmen to trade insults as they passed other boats and barges. This would be along the lines of “Your mother…” jokes. There was one exchange that went thus:
(1st bargeman) “Your mother runs a bawdy house disguised as a house of gambling.”
(2nd bargeman) “Your mother runs a house of gambling disguised as a bawdy house.” Touche.
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cf299b No.16940460
>>16931199
Found a computer generated pic of St. George tower which exhibits that feature particularly well as may be seen in the EMB pics.
Posting that full picture of St. George and a close up of the upper floors with a general silhouette shape intended to represent MILLBANK in front of ST. GEORGE.
Anons can begin to see the pattern seen in the blow-ups of the MILLBANK bldg in the EMB series if pics.
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b0132f No.16941084
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16933179 >>16937687
CIRCA DEC-2013, London Eye and skyline, NIGHT. Screen grab.
https://youtu.be/hxubG7gkqbQ
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b0132f No.16941148
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16941084
30-OCT-2013-P
https://youtu.be/Xe_JVEVOTZY
At least three cranes spotted over worksites at York House (now Urbanset), St Thomas, and Albert Embankment (Parliament House Apartments).
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b0132f No.16941174
>>16941148
Looked like a single crane at York House worksite, 30-OCT-2013-P.
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b0132f No.16941230
>>16937408
SV-AUG=2013 view from River Thames = 1 crane over Yortk House worksite?
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/0e6e330835445e99da9b03dbec5d7520686618c6b7babc5b90b3a9305b860dd6.png
>>16941174
Same? 30-OCT-2013-p
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/4e5cf65defc52787d2354a427a3cbfb373d0f5bc02f751625a5e4224b6353146.png
Not apparent in the stock vid, CIRCA DEC-2013.
>>16941084
This could mean that the single crane at what would become Urbanest did not appear until sometime in NOV-2013?
Shroud behind Big Ben, 24-NOV-2013-T, multiple views (does it match the form in Q pics and in DEC open sauces?). AND the crane behind LE over York House worksite did not appear in that recording on that day.
This vid also showed the snowglobe at Piccadilly Circus, shopfront at Cool Britannia, and the last stretch along Coventry St to the area of the RED BUS pic's background (camera did not record quite high enough to see overhed decorations and/or fixings).
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b0132f No.16941276
>>16941230
SV-AUG-2013
view of the shroud behind Big Ben, from River Thames.
SV-AUG-2013
view of Albert Embankment skyline with cranes, from river, looking over Westminster Bridge.
SV-AUG-2013
view of County Hall and LE, no cranes visible in skyline from vantage on river boat.
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b0132f No.16941294
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b0132f No.16941308
SV-MAY-2014
St Thomas worksite and crane.
SV link, St Thomas crane relative to Urbanest crane
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4984218,-0.1173545,3a,33.7y,288.82h,121.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slabd54LtM2YbLjFSl4tXWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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b0132f No.16941325
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b0132f No.16941331
>>16941325
SV-MAY-2014
St Thomas relative to The Eye and to Urbanest.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5002134,-0.1167789,3a,15.4y,211.27h,106.3t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUotu17aFlLmtRqFhAdqZtg!2e0!5s20140501T000000!7i13312!8i6656
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b0132f No.16941402
>>16941331
GE-AUG-2013
St Thomas and York House (now Urbanest) relative to The London Eye.
Unknown date taken
Aerial photo of target area BEFORE appearance of cranes at redevelopment worksites.
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b0132f No.16941432
>>16941402
Having prob uploading high res aerial photo that shows the BEFORE period. Includes the target areas of Piccadilly Circus, Whitcomb and Coventry streets, Corinthia Hotel, Footbridge, Embankment, TATT and HISP, The London Eye, the crane areas, and much moar.
Will try again laters.
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3da09c No.16942328
Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16695651, >>16695655, >>16696348, >>16696361, >>16696367, >>16696371, >>16696377 The DUMONT
>>16695851, >>16696278, >>16696407, >>16720242 Camelford House, 87-90 Albert Embankment
>>16696244, >>16696248 Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel 18 Albert Embankment, London SE1 7TJ, 1-AUG-2012-P vid of the two bridges over Thames, camera vantage The Eye (video)
>>16696414, >>16696415 Vauxhall SV images for 2012, 2013, 2019. Reference
>>16696455 Peninsula Heights Apartments, 93 Albert Embankment. The cranes in 22-DEC-2013-T are lit up on top
>>16696534 GE-07-2013-T (3D buildings overlayed)
>>16696573 Additional candidates for pink/ purple lit building?
>>16696609 Should not lose sight of the fact that most of the candidates for the pink/purple coloured building also reinforce the pre-2015-2016 conclusion UK Anons are working with for dating the Q pics
>>16696831, >>16696840 New Years Eve 31-DEC-2013-T videos for elevated night time views of the Embankments
>>16696954 NYE 31-DEC-2013-T via BBC One
>>16697024, >>16697063 Stock photos, various years
>>16704118, >>16704257, >>16720353 Riverbank Plaza Hotel, 18 Albert Embankment London SE1 7SP with obvious exterior lighting
>>16704262 2011, Crowne Plaza and Riverbank Plaza hotels
>>16747440, >>16747575 24London open sauce photo (nicknamed "Purple Sister" re LisaMI6) vid mark 1 minute https://youtu.be/eDzV7cMRvHM?t=63 Purple building lit, two crans at Vauxhall, shroud at Westminster tower
>>16747587 Moar points of interest in comparison between open sauce pics and LisaMI6
>>16747671 Pic taken from Millbank Tower: Note that the gap in the row of waterfront buldings had not yet appeared at the time of this pic. Also the Crowne Plaza had not yet undergone rennovations. And 18 Albert Embankment, the building with the 3-sided waterfront, had not been rennovated
>>16747726, >>16747742, >>16747754, >>16747766 Various SV images along the Millbank (A3212) provide a view of the other side of the river which is obstructed by treecover
>>16747778, >>16747901 Good view of the area of interest on Albert embankment, pre-demolition
>>16748013, >>16748035, >>16748204, >>16748313 Getty stock photo, 25-DEC-2013-T. Close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London
>>16753143, >>16753358, >>16753413, 16753504, >>16764764, >>16766154 Comparison pics, future site of Corniche building Google Earth GE-MAR-2012 Imagery Date: 8/2/2011 & GE-JUL-2013 Imagery Date: 18-JUL-2013 View Location: 51°29'27.88" N 0°07'18.01" W
>>16747817, >>16753504, >>16755363 Comparison: Google Earth JUL-2013 Streetview AUG-2013, checking for hoarding installations
>>16753687, >>16753747, >>16753808 SV-JUL-2014 The Corniche gap
>>16754392, >>16754461, >>16754678, >>1654723, >>1654735, >>16765628, >>16767324 18 Albert Embankment (Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel) glass facade and coloured floodlighting
>>16755875 Crowne Plaza hotel to open on Albert Embankment, 27 September 2013 https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7106
>>16755895, 16755898, >>16755927, >>16755937, >>16755950 Albert Embankment: rooftop club overlooking Parliament approved 7 August 2016
>>16791771, >>16776457, >>16792252 The Science is Settled! pink/purple buikding is the Riverbank Plaza hotel, 18 Albert Embankment
>>16931199, >>16931282, >>16931284, >>16931580, >>16940460 Looking for the angle, St George peeking out from behind Millbank
>>16937114 From Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P views from LE pod showing hoarding at Westminster, Millbank lighting
>>16941230 More views of hoarding at Westminster in 2013
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3da09c No.16942333
Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16704118, >>16704289 Signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics
>>16704327 At least six cranes around Dec 2013
>>16704415, >>16704460 22-DEC-2013-T Daytime pic over looking TATTERSHALL CASTLE, 4 to 5 cranes visible over Vauxhall
>>16705019, >>16705021 At least three [3] cranes lit in night pic of 28-SEP-2013-T
>>16719993, >>16742328 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16742364, >>16742373 Cap of N. Chadwick pic of Thames skyline 28-SEP-2013-T Three cranes at Vauxhall, No pink/purple lit building, apparently
>>16747634 Closeup of the Albert Embankment as captured by Chadwick 22-DEC-2013, daytime, at least four cranes at Vauxhall
>>16748734, >>16748997, >>16767403 TinEye says first found 6 December 2014. Notice the cranes on left. The nearest St. George Tower has big white floodlight, the one left has white flood and a red for the two boom sections
>>16749161, >>16767266, >>16767292 ROT1 Match: Mike Kemp, Date created: 14 December, 2013: UK - London - South Bank View during the busy Christmas season towards the London Eye and Westminster. Cranes behind London Eye
>>16749877, >>16753025 Shutterstock 134752082: TineEye says first found 31 August, 2013 St George Tower not complete, but lower floors have the lights on No demolition for Corniche or Dumont
>>16753525, >>16753556 Four cranes, GE-AUG-2013 and SV-AUG-2013
>>16765628 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16766354, >>16767268, >>16769475 January 2013, helicopter collides with crane at St George Tower. Civil Aviation Authority confirmed red aviation warning lights on tall structures only need to be turned on at night - and not during bad weather in daylight hours - because they are not visible in fog or low cloud
>>16754266 Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013-T Up river to Westminster Bridge https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816144 And a closelup modified to enhance view of the cranes and buiding profiles
>>16767324, >>16767344, >>16767348, >>16767357, >>16767381, >>1676403, NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 cranes
>>16767429 Shutterstock, TinEye says first found 28 April, 2014 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/view-vauxhall-bridge-center-london-night-189181721? Two cranes to far right, looks like hoarding on those buildings demolished for the Corniche
>>16767481 #6 in the set, Tineye first found 24 Dec, 2015. Four, maybe five cranes behind the Millbank Tower. One crane with horizntal boom visible in Vauxhall to left of St George Tower
>>16772090, >>16772111 Vid comparison, AUG v DEC 2013 https://youtu.be/u0X4d9PMuoU
>>16786350, >>16786435 Park Plaza County Hall and Park Plaza Westminster, a theory meets a quick death
>>16784670, >>16784803 January 31, 2013 Matthew Gibs: Building behind the Eye is Southbank Place crane next to St George, a tall white one behind Southbank Place, and another one at the extreme left of the pic
>>16794882, >>16794993, >>16795136, 16795265, >>16795270, >>16795310, >>16795398, >>16795497 Crane at St Thomas Hospital. GE-JUL-2013-P and GE-AUG-2013-T
>>16838436 Reference pics from Waterloo Bridge 2015 re South Bank and LE and County Hall rooftop. Note the crane with the fixed jib at St Thomas worksite was recorded at same time as the crane/s over York House worksite 24-APR-2015-P
>>16931698 GE-AUG-2013 marked-up to show location of various cranes and worksites along Albert Embankment plus the site behind the railtracks. That was on Tinworth St, so tagged it as the Tinworth worksite
>>16931466, >>16931570, >>16931698 More images to place cranes at work sites
>>16935441, >>16937097, >>16937121, >>16937136, >>16937185 NYE Timelapse 2013/2014 Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P
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3da09c No.16942334
Updated Urbanest Bun
203 Westminster Bridge Road, London SE1 7FR, former site of York House
>>16786877 Mebbe the cranes are behind the Park Plaza at URBANEST? Or near King’s Cross Theatre?
>>16787231, >>16792557, >>16792560 Comparing 06 DEC 2013, Kemp 14 DEC 2013, Setterfiled 25 DEC 2013 with 24London and ROT1
>>16786891, >>16786927 Day and niight views over looking Park Plaza County Hall and Park Plaza Westminster towards target area
>>16792704 Google Earth 18-JUL-2013-T Satellite view of site that would become Urbanest, York House demolition complete
>>16792738 Urbanest project captured different times in GE imagery. Aug 2013, Feb 2014, June 2014
>>16792809, >>16792851 Cranes on site that would become URBANEST, ground level pics: SV-JUN-2012, SV-MAY-2014, SV-JUL-2014, SV-AUG-2014, SV-MAY-2015
>>16792929, >>16792958 David Cameron visits South Bank building site, Wednesday 28 May 2014
>>16792937, >>16792955 Former site of York House SV-MAY-2012, SV-MAY-2014, SV-JUL-2014, SV-MAY-2015; DLD College at the Urbanest opens its doors 7 SEP 2015
>>16793087, >>16793091 More views looking towards Urbanest area, crane over County Hall
>>16794164 SV-JUL-2014: Crane appeared to be assembling or disassembling the other in the SV images on Upper Marsh just before the railroad underpass
>>16794284 SV-MAY-2014 views from Westminster Bridge. Apex of each crane in these images stood higher than neighbouring Park Plaza Hotel, which stood between cranes and The Eye
>>16794303 SV-MAY-2014 York House worksite cranes visible from Parliament Square/ Westminster Bridge Road. Boom apex taller than neighbouring rooftops, as seen from afar
>>16794638 Reverse views a) from railtracks looking back toward LE and b) from within the new building looking toward LE (links)
>>16937408 23-DEC-2013-P Possibly a lone crane light at York House worksite (now Urbanest) as viewed from Westminster Bridge from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rMJadxEjWU
>>16941294 SV-AUG-2013 Ground level view of crane over York House worksite
>>16941402 GE-AUG-2013 St Thomas and York House (now Urbanest) relative to The London Eye
Salamanca Worksite, later Parliament Apartments Bun
>>16827335, >>16838305 Crane points the way
>>16838274 Salamanca worksite (now Parliament House Apartments), GE images. GE-AUG-2013; SV-JUN-2014; GooMAPS
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3da09c No.16942336
Updated Other References Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732209, >>16732538, >>16733324, >>16734100 Reference pic to show the distance from Hungerford Bridge to TATTERSHALL CASTLE 25-OCT-2014-T
>>16734821 24-OCT-2015-T Post-Refit TATTERSHALL CASTLE, RAF Memorial is dark
>>16747168 8-NOV-2016-T Link to 21 second vid showing darkened RAF Memorial https://www.bitchute.com/video/NgOsVFAEw9Pd/
>>16747275 OCT-2011, Reference, view from footbridge similair to Q pics, especially LisaMi6. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mt7jBASQ5LvO/
>>16747303 Vid, comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bzft57cyoYTI/
>>16754564 Picadilly Circus Snowglobe: Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
>>16756137 December 2013, the Weather closes in
>>16756217 View from the Pentagon, NIOC
>>16754281, >>16754319, >>16767276 NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 with modified versions to bring out the treecover which obscures the view of Albert Embankment
>>16772437, >>16772512, >>16772598 London Weather to consider
>>16772531, >>16772538, >>16800117 14-DEC-2013-P? "Roberts London" Southbank Christmas Markets London Christmas Gift Shopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRA9SCOi3y0
>>16772611, >>16772641, >>16773003, >>16781408, >>16794292, >>16794337, >>16794433 23-NOV-2013-P Christmas in London 2013 https://youtu.be/3ESHoO1cpl8 (https://ok.ru/video/3634365838)
>>16780506 London Plane trees
>>16781253, >>16781263, >>16781287, >>16781300 Victoria Embankment, New Years Eve crowds with Big Ben, evening, DEC-2013
>>16787440, >>16787526, >>16791909 Lest we forget, another marker/mystery: The flag pole near The Eye
>>16787620, >>16936038 06-DEC-2013-P Night vid The Eye, Red Bull Music Academy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRPNlRzCuw Crack Magazine 20 Sep 2012 mentions Red Bull Academy taking over London Eye for each pod as a club
>>16791176, 16791421 Moon over Thames AUG 2015 Moon seen through The Eye https://youtu.be/kl2h-UVx5TI
>>16791636 Moon over Thames, 16-DEC-2014, London UK. (timelapsed) https://youtu.be/t1ufG8oAPzI
>>16792661 Reference vidcaps, JUL-2014-P Series of vidcaps confirm this recording made AFTER time interval for EMB pics and BEFORE winter of 2015/2016 Views of Southbank from two different angles
>>16935441, >>16937097, >>16937121, >>16937136, >>16937185 NYE Timelapse 2013/2014 Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OjQHt2UUqg
>>16937260, >>16937285 06-JAN-2013-P Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night
>>16937638, >>16937673 24-NOV-2013-T Includes views of the Red Bus scene background, Piccadilly Circus, London Eye, and Big Ben; movie posters on kiosk to identify https://youtu.be/7YErQn6Dgy8
>>16931256, >>16931338 Wheelie trash bins may help narrow the dates
>>16937260, >>16937285 Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night. 06-JAN-2013 from https://youtu.be/Dc3T2O4vMj0
>>16941276 More Street Views from August 2013
>>16941308 SV-MAY-2014 St Thomas worksite and crane
>>16941325, >>16941331 SV-MAY-2014 St Thomas relative to The Eye and to Urbanest
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3da09c No.16942344
Notables are NOT Endorsements
coming up on 500
#47
>>16720935, >>16721106 Anons notices the constellations visible despite city lights in 2018 Alamy stock pic
>>16724490 Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732365 Man acquitted re Air India bombing has been shot in Canada
>>16732851 From General Research: World Health Organization Officially States That There Are More Than Two Biological Genders
>>16749548 Request for Anons: Please show the following video (Winter Wonderland) to a normie. The purpose is to test this video for ease of comprehension
>>16770726, >>16770746 Devin Nunes announced on podcast Truth Social is open in the UK
>>16800116 Urbanest Bun
>>16827041 From General Research: W.H.O. Appoints Veteran Communist Party of Britain Member to Advisory Panel
>>16938686 From General Research: Doomed UK Trans Kids Clinic Left ‘Thousands of Damaged Children’ In Its Wake
>>16942328 Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16942333 Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16942334 Updated Urbanest Bun | Salamanca Worksite, later Parliament Apartments Bun
>>16942336 Updated Other References Bun
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cf299b No.16943196
>>16937638
Noice find for RED BUS dig.
>>16941084
Tyvm for posting that. I think the vid is sufficient for casting doubt on the Moon behind London Eye. Can’t say for sure at this point. The clouds make it difficult for a one to one comparison. The flight paths, altho not exact as a match, seem close enough, allowing for the occasional plane out of the normal flight path. So, could be.
Perhaps this is a gud time to review the high tide definitely seen in ROT1.
Setting aside the Moon entirely, thr restaurant ships, as a reminder, still appear to be closed for business. After hours. So looking for high tides around midnight, I don’t think there were any high tides around that time Christmas week. Iirc they were progressively so late as to be early morning hours. We should keep in mind there are no buses seen in the EMB pics. This has weighed tgis anon’s suspicions for the time frame when the bus services were paused for the holiday starting at midnight on Christmas Eve and continuing the whole of Christmas Day. Will take another high tides look though, looking for evening high tides.
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cf299b No.16943370
>>16943196
Attached is a high tide chart for LONDON BRIDGE.
The “night” high tides which would occur during darkness are in BLACK squares.
The high tides in YELLOW squares are not likely because they are either 1) during twilight, 2) during business hours for restaurant ships, or during times of expected heavy traffic when buses might be expected, or 4) other.
Inside the RED square bus services were stopped.
Inside the BLUE square is when MILLBANK lights are a likely match.
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b0132f No.16943868
>>16943196
>Perhaps this is a gud time to review the high tide definitely seen in ROT1.
The tides table and your mark-up is powerful stuff. The thinking behind is solid, I think.
Now, to ensure that we have tested both the thinking and the summary mark-up, could you list the factors, as you can recall, behind each of the following?
1. Tide seen in ROT1 is high tide.
2. TATT and HISP appeared to be closed for trade.
3. No buses in the EMB pics.
4. Millbank Tower light pattern/s in EMB pics indicate Christmas week.
Another point for which I have not found a strong inference is the lack of motorcycles in the EMB pics. In a previous bread, a vid recorded by a cyclist during the stormy weather that week, suggested that hazardous conditions might have severely reduced motorcycle traffic but that did not seem strong enough to eliminate such traffic. The shutdown of WW due to the inclement weather likewise suggested a reason for the lack of coaster cars on the coaster ride in the background of the WW pics. The puddles only dimly perceived in WW pics lent some support for prior precipitation; likewise the steady rain on New Year Eve both at the EMB and Piccadilly Circus; likewise the cloudy and rainy weather recorded during the New Year Day parade through London. So the weather provided some hints but nothing decisive, so far.
Might the high tide captured in the EMB pics add or detract from the inference of stormy weather or from precipitation prior to, or after, the taking of EMB pics?
This could bring us back to the lowered activity or inactivity suggested in the Millbank Tower light pattern/s. It might lend to the notion of early closing of floating restaurants (which could test by checking other such restaurants in vicinity). It might add meaning to the observs on trash bins in EMB and CH pics. Weather is so changeable, even on stormy days in London, that drawing firm inferences has been tricky.
Tanks for the Tide mark-up. It's a keeper.
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b0132f No.16943905
Garry Knight, reference pics taken during winter 2014.
The Tattershall Castle
Taken on December 6, 2014
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/15600804594/in/photostream/
The South Bank is Crowded
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/16221335951/in/photostream/
London Eye Pier, It's getting near sunset.
Taken on November 28, 2014
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/16009522510/in/photostream/
Big Ben in Sunny London, Sunny, but chilly, being winter.
Taken on December 6, 2014
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/16037087689/in/photostream/
Thames at Dusk, The river, Big Ben, the Houses of Parliament, and the London Eye Pier.
Taken on December 7, 2014
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/16062154369/in/photostream/
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b0132f No.16943953
>>16943905
Garry Knight 2013 pics
Rim Light, Late afternoon on the South Bank.
Taken on January 19, 2014
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/12541977095/in/photostream/
Westminster Station Entrance, Right next to Parliament Square.
Taken on December 29, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/12054415723/in/photostream/
Millennium Pier and Big Ben, Another view of the River Thames.
Taken on December 29, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/12054153145/in/photostream/
Built in 1902, Old buildings at Waterloo, London.
Taken on December 29, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/12054562434/in/photostream/
Sunny Saturday, Not your usual London winter weather.
Taken on December 28, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/11984427534/in/photostream/
Noon at Trafalgar Square, Lots of people, a blue chicken, and a floating Yoda.
Taken on December 28, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/11931167636/in/photostream/
London Winter Weather, Much more typical than snow.
Taken on December 15, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/11861489793/in/photostream/
Thames Afternoon, Another sunny late autumn day.
Taken on November 30, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/11651158075/in/photostream/
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b0132f No.16943961
Thames Afternoon, Another sunny late autumn day.
Taken on November 30, 2013
https://www.flickr.com/photos/garryknight/11651158075/in/photostream/
Zoomed and enhanced for contrast in skyline.
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b0132f No.16944000
>>16941230 >>16931133 >>16931097
Shutterstock vid, "CIRCA DECEMBER 2013"
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-5542220-london-united-kingdom—circa-december-2013
Compare the hoarding behind Big Ben in 30-24-NOV-2013-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/2a785a2b43f5bcb86942547a614a774b59a3804b3f6af329ac73b43d7094611e.png
and 24-NOV-2013-P
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/ae4c17c90febed9e193574b4b4496998c334235a6e1173a828a0b55caa84c2e2.png
with same captured in SV-AUG-2013
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/1f703a13533e04d109acabcf301e3581db26e5716845e3463d1991ee5e946182.png
and SV-AUG-2013
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/765baeea181f2f455799a92df7737d3f21285db08a3dadbd253a34600e0b2442.png
and in 23-DEC-2013-P
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/ab38933664e6d92c30f61b6bbbb92d20e7ebef781a7ecc56715c9cfe37d0cab4.png
and 19-JAN-2014-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/dd7b13ae7570f426ea88782e86324871d00f1594b4981286ac7ccef460cd435a.png
and with 30-NOV-2013-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/b911a330f6d641274d8acda8bb5bab051103a52fa38d4c7fcde53206505b9733.png
1. Did CIRCA DEC-2013 match ROT_1?
A: No. Top of the tower was not covered in ROT_1.
2. Which open sauce/s matched CIRCA DEC-2013-T?
3. Based on these images, here, what was the earliest that the Q form of this shroud? And the latest?
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b0132f No.16944006
>>16944000
>>16941230 >>16931133 >>16931097
Shutterstock vid, "CIRCA DECEMBER 2013"
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-5542220-london-united-kingdom—circa-december-2013
Compare the hoarding behind Big Ben in with same captured in SV-AUG-2013
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/1f703a13533e04d109acabcf301e3581db26e5716845e3463d1991ee5e946182.png
and SV-AUG-2013
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/765baeea181f2f455799a92df7737d3f21285db08a3dadbd253a34600e0b2442.png
and in 24-NOV-2013-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/2a785a2b43f5bcb86942547a614a774b59a3804b3f6af329ac73b43d7094611e.png
and 24-NOV-2013-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/thumb/ae4c17c90febed9e193574b4b4496998c334235a6e1173a828a0b55caa84c2e2.png
and with 30-NOV-2013-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/b911a330f6d641274d8acda8bb5bab051103a52fa38d4c7fcde53206505b9733.png
and in 23-DEC-2013-P
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/ab38933664e6d92c30f61b6bbbb92d20e7ebef781a7ecc56715c9cfe37d0cab4.png
and 19-JAN-2014-T
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/dd7b13ae7570f426ea88782e86324871d00f1594b4981286ac7ccef460cd435a.png
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b0132f No.16944013
>>16931097
My apologies.The link to Shutterstock is not the link to the stock vid that was used to show the Thames skyline and, thus, the shroud behind Big Ben. It was found in the same search that showed the CIRCA-DEC-2013 vid.
Searching for it now.
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b0132f No.16944033
>>16931097 >>16944013
Different but same theme, DEC-2013 NIGHT view
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-5635049-london-2013-eye-by-night
14-APR-2013
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-3814031-london—april-14-skyline-night-view
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b0132f No.16944035
>>16944033
Nejron, circa DEC 2013
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/nejron/video?searchterm=the-london-eye&sort=popular
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b0132f No.16944042
>>16944035
NIGHT views LE and skyscape, APR-2013?
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-29331949-london-eye-on-thames-river-night-time-lapse
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-29331949-london-eye-on-thames-river-night-time-lapse
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-29331940-london-eye-on-thames-river-night-time-lapse
Day to Dusk
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-29331934-london-eye-on-thames-river-day-dusk
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-29331961-london-eye-on-thames-river-day-dusk
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-29331952-london-eye-on-thames-river-day-dusk
Text copied from shutterstock:
London traffic around Westminister square, Big Ben and House of Parlament Circa December,2013
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-5737928-london-circa-dec-traffic-around-westminister-square
Seems the entry was misdated, as anon noted above.
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b0132f No.16944060
Grist for the mill
https://www.facebook.com/TheTattershallCastle/photos/a.370010109986/10151848056324987/
Pic from TATT advert. See lack of Q-shroud behind Big Ben. See two red lights on two cranes behind London Eye.
And see big moon in night sky.
No date provided.
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b0132f No.16944078
>>16944060
The TATT's "bridge".
https://img.tagvenue.com/resize/0e/5a/widen-1680-noupsize;7863-bridge-room.jpg
How are other investigations 'bridged' to 'illegal spy' campaign?
Q 4755
FBI CHAIN OF COMMAND MIDYEAR INVESTIGATION [HRC EMAIL]?
FBI CHAIN OF COMMAND FISA-RUSSIA-POTUS-FLYNN-STONE-PAPADOP-MANAF? [CIA BRIDGE_BRENNAN_INTEL ASSESS[17]_UKRAINE_LINK]?
FBI CHAIN OF COMMAND DNC HACK? [CIA BRIDGE > UKRAINE CROWDSTRIKE_BRENNAN]?
RECONCILE.
IF CHAIN OF COMMAND + [DOJ-CIA[F + D] FOUND GUILTY [INDICTMENT CHAP 115 + [CLAS 1-99]] RE: USA V. [1-2-3-6] RE: FISA CAN THE SAME ARGUMENT BE MADE RE: MIDYEAR + DNC +++?
Q 3990
Treason-Sedition-Corruption at the highest levels of GOV (WW).
How do you repair a bridge without closing it down?
Q 2038
BRIDGES - connecting people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/ezra-cohen-watnick-justice-department-national-security-adviser.html
Q 2058
Moar
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b0132f No.16944089
>>16944000
>2. Which open sauce/s matched CIRCA DEC-2013-T?
APR and AUG 2013 open sauces matched the stock vid, not DEC-2013.
>3. Based on these images, here, what was the earliest that the Q form of this shroud? And the latest?
The earliest Q-match in the images cited above in this bread was dated 24-NOV-2013-T.
The match continued through 19-JAN-2014. And possibly beyond the current time interval for EMB pics.
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b0132f No.16944128
>>16943961
30-NOV-2013
v
06-DEC-2013-P
These were captured around the same time, late-NOV and early-DEC 2013.
The vantage and camera angles are very similar. The single crane over York House was captured in early DEC; the crane over the rooftop of County Hall was captured in late NOV. In some DEC images the two can be confused, one for the other, depending on the vantage and camera angles.
Chadwick 28-SEP-2013-T did not capture the crane over York House; it may have been onsite but not tall enough or not parked such that its red light would be viewed above the rooftops.
Okay, so when did the second crane and light appear? What is the earliest open sauce showing it?
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b0132f No.16944141
>>16944128
To back-fill support for the arrival of the first crane, high enough to be seen above rooftops, recall vid from 30-OCT-2013-P. >>16941174 >>16941148
30-OCT-2013-P
https://youtu.be/Xe_JVEVOTZY
And the SV view from the river, AUG-2013, of a crane at a lower height. >>16937408
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/0e6e330835445e99da9b03dbec5d7520686618c6b7babc5b90b3a9305b860dd6.png
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b0132f No.16944169
>>16840596
KEMP 14-DEC-2013-T
This may be our earliest open sauce for appearance of the second crane and red light behind the LE.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/d7a64a087e31d6af308e2ea1e67fdadcb7c8a332ec9ffcd0ecea1845c46b0e73.png
Given narrow interim between night shots without the second in that position behind LE, taken 06-DEC-2013-P and this view with both cranes taken 14-DEC-2014-T, we can werk with 14-DEC as the NOT BEFORE bookend for ROT_1.
The presence of these cranes at that worksite continue well beyond the current Q interval for the EMB pics so this marker does not provide a NOT AFTER bookend.
Observs, Anons? What was our previous early bookend for EMB? Has this scrutiny narrowed the interval?
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b0132f No.16944237
>>16944169
Should add that the pair of cranes behind LE has further solidified the DEC-2013 interval during which Q London pics had been taken. And adds to the already strong bulk of pictorial evidence against these pics having been taken 2015/2016. In that sense, it helps tell that part of the story very well and quite clearly.
Sets the stage for inching inward toward Christmas week.
Have we a firm NOT AFTER bookend for EMB pics that excludes all of JAN-2014? How much more narrowly can we firmly support no later than Christmas week?
Markers that don't do that trick include the two crane lights, the shroud, and purple building.
The signboard on riverwall by HISP serves as a stake in the ground but lacking later open sauce images it can't yet provide a bookend. It is a rarity so that in itself may suffice, IDK. The yellow bike at CH does not provide such a bookend, right?
Possibilities? The motorcycle parking by the junction of V. EMB and Northumberland? Lack of motorcycles on the road? The trash bins in the EMB and CH pics are also more like stakes in the ground that distinguish images from within the London set of pics. Likewise Millbank tower lights.
The latter may be the best candidate; but the trash bins may be a very strong possibility, provided can back-up the conjecture more fulsomely. The limited goal might now be to establish a solid NOT AFTER bookend that eliminates dates AFTER Christmas week.
For instance, the probabilities for the Millbank lights pattern to remain almost unchanged for any period of time, may be low but an image of a change in the pattern during a time close to the end of Christmas week would be useful. A sort of close but not quite pattern?
The lunar and tidal date hold great promise, also, and yet are very dependent on these other markers to help set forth strong criteria for choosing a bracket of time. The weather has helped but varies within a day - except during that stormy period with high winds just at the start of Christmas week. Not sure there was something like that on the other side of that interval to serve as a bookend.
Once again, it should be asked, are Anons satisfied with with having narrowed the interval to Christmas week (some time AFTER the 22-DEC when the riverwall signboard appeared? Have we enough hard evidence, apart from good conjecture, to no later than Christmas week – boxing day, for instance?
For the RED BUS pic the vid taken on 24-NOV-2013-T showed that the police viewing platform had not yet been put into place where it would be recorded on 31-DEC-2013-T. If we managed to naildown the date on which that platform did appear, then, the NOT AFTER bookend could be firmed up; trouble is that the Q pic could have been taken after the platform was removed so we'd need moar there as well. That platform is like a stake in the ground eithr side of which there are some days that the RED BUS pic could have been taken. It is fair to surmise, however, that the Time frame of Christmas may exclude JAN-2014 but harder evidence would do the trick on that. Or have I missed something? In Piccadilly Circus, maybe? The snowglobe could have helped but it was not in the Q camera frame.
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b0132f No.16944259
>>16944128
Sorry, repeated previous error. The vid that was tagged 06-DEC-2013-P was posted that date and taken by Chadwick on 28-SEP-2013-T.
The comparison can only serve to clarify that the crane light that appeared over County Hall and in the distance was not one and the same as the single crane light that at one time appeared behind LE.
That light appeared on 28-SEP-2013-T. When the second light appeared is the actual marker, when the pair of lights were high enough to make their red lights visible over the rooftops behind LE.
KEMP 14-DEC-2013-T is the earliest, so far, to show the pair of red lights/ cranes, right? That is the NOT BEFORE bookend?
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b0132f No.16944697
>>16941294
Correction.
The view of the crane down the way from Westminster Bridge came from images of SV-AUG-2013.
NOT 2018.
SV-AUG-2013.
Graphic corrected also.
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b0132f No.16945158
>>16944237
Comparison of ROT_1 and CHADWICK 22-DEC-2013-T.
The angle is different and there are other problems with a direct 1:1 comparison, but figure it might be worth a go since 22-DEC-2013 is also the date on which the one and only open source pic of the EMB that shows the riverwall signboard near the HISP entrance. Might be something, might be nothing.
There is also Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T from Waterloo Bridge. Same closeup view drawn from confirms the location of cranes near the same buildings that seem to match-up in ROT_1.
Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T view from Waterloo Bridge
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816144
Chadwick 22-DEC-2013-T view of The Eye
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816143
Also, a different photographer captured the snowglobe at Piccadilly Circus on the same date; that pic shows light traffic and simillar overcast conditions as in the Q pic of the same area on the Sunday before Christmas.
Farmer 22-DEC-2013-T
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
Combined with the Chadwick pics of the yellow bike in the Corinthia Hotel vicinity, kinda makes a nice completed set.
22-DEC-2013-T might be a bit early in the Christmas week to be an excellent match with the Q pics, but it is pretty close, I think, to a fair match on multiple locations. Add Farmer at Piccadilly and the date looks very good.
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b0132f No.16945165
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16945158
Here is a very ruff vid making the comparison of ROT_1 with 22-DEC-2013-T.
https://youtu.be/bJ-QlUyfbCg
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b0132f No.16945206
>>16945158
Do the cranes behind LE present any probs with matching ROT_1?
Also, howabout the tide? Looks like it might high tide? Does that help with the tidal analysis in that this is a daylight tide? Does this track okay with what is known from the data table? The storm would come the next day.
Monday 23-DEC-2013
https://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-12-22/winter-wonderland-closes-ahead-of-stormy-weather/
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b0132f No.16945222
>>16944697
>different photographer captured the snowglobe at Piccadilly Circus on the same date; that pic shows light traffic and simillar overcast conditions as in the Q pic
No, not overcast, but in the shadow of the buildings.
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3da09c No.16946532
Any rumours floating around as to boatfag having gone missing are incorrect. I'm the one baked this bread after the spam attack and am still sitting back here in the corner taking the notes
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89794b No.16946783
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. All churches are infiltrated.
How about we infiltrate "them" back? In a good way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zbLEmQ3qvY
https://climateofsophistry.com/2022/07/31/classical-illuminism-a-new-way-of-life-for-the-future/#comment-108350
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3da09c No.16947390
General Research #21249 >>16946856
1 Aug, 2022 21:11
HomeBusiness News
UK eases anti-Russia sanctions
London has re-allowed the provision of insurance for aircraft, sea vessels and their components to Russia-linked entities
London has eased some restrictions it imposed on Russia over the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, allowing companies to provide insurance and reinsurance to entities linked to Russia. The amendment to the ‘General Trade Licence Russia Sanctions – Vessels’ was announced on Monday by the UK Department for International Trade.
“The General Licence has been revised to remove Regulation 28 (financial services and funds related to restricted goods and restricted technology) from paragraph 1(h),” the department explained in a brief statement.
“This enables the provision of insurance and reinsurance to a person connected with Russia in relation to the items in paragraph 1 (a), subject to the wider restrictions and conditions of the licence,” it added. The aforementioned paragraph mentions sea vessels and aircraft, their component parts, as well as aero gas turbine engines.
The restrictions, primarily viewed as a tool to damage Russian oil trade, have been apparently put on hold over fears that such curbs would sent crude prices up and further destabilize global energy security. “There is no current UK ban affecting global shipments of Russian oil,” Patrick Davison, underwriting director of the Lloyd’s Market Association, an industry group for insurers at Lloyd’s, has said.
“Given the global nature of the [re]insurance industry, the existence of the EU restrictions may well impact appetite for Russian oil shipments in London,” he told Financial Times on Sunday.
A similar move to ease anti-Russia sanctions was taken by the EU last month. On July 21, the EU Council allowed transactions needed for Russian state-owned companies to sell oil to third countries.
“With a view to avoid any potential negative consequences for food and energy security around the world, the EU decided to extend the exemption from the prohibition to engage in transactions with certain state-owned entities as regards transactions for agricultural products and the transport of oil to third countries,” the Council said at the time.
https://www.rt.com/business/560027-uk-anti-russia-sanctions/
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b31240 No.16947754
>>16946532
>Any rumours floating around as to boatfag having gone missing are incorrect.
I’m the one. I thot UK Baker had said he was gonna take over and spend moar time with the breads. And then he. And then you…
(Muh best Lou Costello imitation)- “I’m SO confused.”
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b31240 No.16947821
>>16947754
I asked where you’ve been over at QRB. And you been secret bakin ‘ere the whole time. Like a church mouse. Waitin fer someun ta blabber where treasure be hidden. Well I’ll tell ya. It’s on the map. It be where future proves past. Q marks the spot.
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d22720 No.16948072
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. test
Good Morning Commanders, Anon Watchmen Warrior Patriots
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b0132f No.16948173
>>16748204
UK diggers, please review the comparison pics of the Millbank Tower light pattern.
Here the challenge is to identify the closest match for each pic. By finding these matches we may then find potential sequences.
THEN we have dates already associated with some of these pics. Posted and Taken dates. And for one or two we have no date, yet.
Looking for detailed scrutiny. Pick a pic, compare it with each of the others. Find the closest match-ups. Do the same for each pic. It is my hunch that a pattern will emerge.
Still hunting for moar pics of this tower's lighting during DEC-2013. Inside and outside the Christmas week. For reference and for direct match-ups.
But we may already have enough.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/46cd8d7504db716b26ba9f83a8b4f2a5ff228081b41dd6560bd008126766f73c.png
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3da09c No.16948184
>>16947754
>>16947821
Old quote, don't remember from who: "The enemy can't guess what we are doing when even we don't know what we are doing"
Spots we have in plenty. Either a spot with a building or a crane working on a building
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b0132f No.16948230
15800796 old bread
Reposting anon's observs.
Anonymous 03/06/22 (Sun) 19:55:31c7650c (19) No.15800796
>>15787245 [old bread]
Anon, I noticed this picture, with a waste removal services vehicle pulling out of Whitehall Place, was taken on a Sunday (27AUG2017).
Can we put that to use to form likely date(s) for waste bins being put out the night before? For Whitehall Place anyhao, a Saturday night. And of course the bins being seen in the ‘trafcam’ pics could be a diff evening from LISA.
So what I’m thinking is that the LISA pic (NO WASTE BINS) which the evidence seems to point to DEC 24,25,26, would fall on a T-W-TH. But the CH3 pic and trafcam pics which have WASTE BINS put out could be a SATURDAY NGHT, DEC28th, for Sunday waste pick-up.
Just something to think about.
Of course we have no proof the waste collection date for Whitehall Place hasn’t changed from 2013.
Just something to think on.
PIC referred to
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5514990
ALSO: the PappaD dig showed that his LONDON pic, posted on his old FB, was taken between MAY-2014 and MAY-2015; going by the clothing worn by people in the background, gonna say summer 2014.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/807cd7a00ea3736f8b86a1a62ecfbcee64f38cc554549d680aa4699af188be42.png
At the very least we have a set of Q pics from winter of 2013/2014 followed by PappaD in London the following summer of 2014. If I recall rightly, spygate attached to PappaD in 2015 AFTER DJT announced running for pres but BEFORE he won the nom. This overall may be the London connexion between DEC-2013, Summer-2014, and subseuent 2015/2016 references re London.
Trash bins may seem incredibly trivial, to normal eyes, but the multiple days captured in the London pics may be the key to identifying the "universe" of suspected amongst the 6 targets of interest.
Just zooming back out from the details to look at direct-line implications and, thus, moar digging that may flow from the London pics. Re who was where and when.
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b0132f No.16948236
>>16948184
Likes the ways you think.
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b0132f No.16948257
Millbank Tower lighting pattern Sunday evening twilight or dusk.
SUNDAY 12-JAN-2014-T
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3815099
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b0132f No.16948269
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3da09c No.16948298
>>16948257
Not sure what help it could be, but the 16th Floor of the Millbank Tower has been occupied by Russia Times. Could explain why the lights were usually on, right?
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3da09c No.16948302
>>16948298 (me)
Yep, I need a nap
Read Russia Today, thought Russia Today, typed Russia Times
Until later, dear friends
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b0132f No.16948322
>>16948173 >>16948257
Potential submarkers for sequenciing/dating?
The 12-JAN-2014 pic taken Sunday evening has fewer lights on than the DEC-2013 pics gathered here. Noticeable on first 3? floors.
Those are the floors that appear to be pretty gud matches with Lisa across the DEC-2013 pics, but not 12-JAN-2014.
The next set of floors highlight in 2nd pic attached, likewise more in common across DEC-2013, including Lisa, but not the JAN-2014 pic - and not "Bright Sister" showed more lights on one of those floors which might indicate an earlier time of day.
The third set as outlined in 3rd pic attatched seems to follow that same general theme - jan-2014 showed fewer lights on, and Bright showed more on.
Okay, observs Anons?
Still thinking that match-ups for each of these pics would push the dig forward. Could a UK digger undertake, please?
Off for a rest.
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b0132f No.16948356
>>16948322
here is that 3rd pic showing comparison of Millbank light pattern.
>>16948298
Noice. Which is the 16th? Kek. How many floors does the tower have? 16th might be at about halfway down the full height? Not wure how to count floors in the available images. But would be useful to learn.
This Grade II Listed, 33-storey office tower occupies a position on Millbank overlooking the Thames, between Lambeth Bridge and Vauxhall Bridge. Built for the Engineering Company Vickers, it was originally known as the Vickers Tower. When completed, circa 1963, it was London's tallest building standing 118 metres high.
Located on the 29th floor of the Millbank Tower is Altitude 360, " … a renowned market leader in ultra-modern, exceptional experiences and service for events." The owners describe the facility as, "essentially a blank canvas, making it an impressive and versatile space for any event. Altitude 360 can be used as one continuous venue or the electronic retractable walls can be used to create break-out spaces and syndicate rooms. The rooms boast white marble floors, white-washed walls, black leather banquette seating, black slate bars and penthouse style designer furniture."
https://manchesterhistory.net/architecture/1960/millbank.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millbank_Tower
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b0132f No.16948363
>>16948322
2nd pic referred to above.
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b0132f No.16948365
>>16948322 >>16948356
2nd comparison pic mentioned above.
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b0132f No.16948368
>>16948363
>>16948365
Huh.
Uploading pic again.
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b0132f No.16948515
See posted list of Millbank and Thames River skyline pics available online.
>>14806980 VOB (very old bread)
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/14352887.html#14806980
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b0132f No.16948941
01-DEC-2013-T Leon Neal
Construction cranes behind LE
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/the-sun-sets-over-central-london-on-december-1-2013-afp-news-photo/452758673?adppopup=true
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b0132f No.16948974
11-DEC-2013-T Daniel Sorabji
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/fog-hangs-over-central-london-on-december-11-2013-flight-news-photo/455082529?adppopup=true
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b0132f No.16949056
31-DEC-2013-T 360 degree view from Westminster Bridge. Cranes. Moar.
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/fireworks-viewed-from-westminster-bridge-light-up-the-news-photo/459883341?adppopup=true
Examples here, but look/watch original.
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b0132f No.16949089
>>16949056
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/fireworks-viewed-from-westminster-bridge-light-up-the-news-photo/459883341?adppopup=true
The New Year Is Celebrated In London With A Firework Display
LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 01: (EDITOR'S NOTE: Image was created as an Equirectangular Panorama. Import image into a panoramic player to create an interactive 360 degree view. Exclusive Content, outside of all subscription agreements - Premium Pricing applies) Fireworks viewed from Westminster Bridge light up the London skyline just after midnight on January 1, 2014 in London, England. Thousands of people lined the banks of the River Thames near Parliament in central London to herald the start of 2014. (Photo by Peter Macdiarmid/360/Getty Images)
Credit: Peter Macdiarmid/360 / Contributor
Editorial #: 459883341
Collection: Getty Images Sport
Date created: 01 January, 2014
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b0132f No.16949106
31-DEC-2013-T NYE Macdiarmid
Thames skyline behind Big Begn, camera located on Westminster Bridge,
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b0132f No.16949143
>>16949056
Pair of cranes at York House. And the crane at St Thomas is reorientated so boom is more or less parallel with river.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/f80ac089a877a0a164f0ff0d381619fb9b7b6d19029f23c3e08072e96f753b47.png
Tall crane at PHA appeared just as it did in other open sauces and as we suspected in ROT_1. Plus the other cranes farther back along Albert Embankment.
And while the purple building at 18 Albert Embankment, the Riverbank Hotel, is not lit-up, its facade can just be detected in the expected location. So looked quite a lot like ROT_1 in most respects - the purple building being prominent exception.
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b0132f No.16949221
>>16948974
Anons, can you detect the pair of cranes or just one crane over York House worksite? I think I can see two. Then farther behind a very tall crane at PHA.
Not certain have mapped the taller buildings correctly. The photo was shot with a long lense, I think, and that may alter perception.
Here is image modified to enhance contrast.
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b0132f No.16949421
>>16949221
Dated 11-DEC so could fit with KEMP 14-DEC?
>>16948974
Looks a bit like St Paul's in bottom right. Very long focal lense.
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b0132f No.16950026
>>16948941
While this image, 01-DEC-2013-T, showed the skyline with cranes but not the target area behind the LE and along the Albert Embankment. Compare with >>16948974 which shows more of the target area.
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3da09c No.16952304
>>16948356
I've seen mention of Millbank Tower being 32 storeys, something about renovations to occur 208 and after to have apartments in the building to make is "mixed use"
I guess I need to find a daytime shot of the front facing the river and count floors.
Could we do the Millbank the way we did the X-mas Grille at Winter Wonderland? Have lighting charts the way the bulbs on the grille were done?
Anyway. RT on 16th floor. Altitude 360 on 29th (blue, purple, or during corporate events bright white lighting. Skyloft on 28th floor (hot pink lighting)
And up until 2018, Soros' Open Society Foundation on the 7th floor
https://www.bizstats.co.uk/ltd/open-society-foundation-04571628/
https://www.ukpostcodecheck.com/address/3fd2d91a/open-society-foundation_7th-floor-millbank-tower_21-24-millbank_london_sw1p-4qp
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3da09c No.16952510
The top of the building on the side facing Westminster appears to be two stories
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3da09c No.16952565
>>16952510
Yes, looks like a total of 33 storeys, but 32&33 are a high ceiling combination
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a6afcd No.16954416
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16952565
Altitude 360
https://youtu.be/MOf6rLFNgWg
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a6afcd No.16954418
>>16954416
Altitude 360, intro vid
https://youtu.be/_2pM5m_43jo
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a6afcd No.16954424
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16954416
Skyloft
https://youtu.be/DVEnCgDKRR4
https://altitudelondon.com/our-venues/skyloft/
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a6afcd No.16954447
>>16954416
This promo vid for Altitude 360 predates the cranes but it is clear that this facility has excellent views of the target area.
https://youtu.be/Vbkwro0fMYs
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a6afcd No.16954462
>>16952565
29th Floor, Altitude 360, 2009
https://youtu.be/La615A3Bbmw
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a6afcd No.16954598
03-MAY-2013-P
https://usa.watchpro.com/hot-100-to-take-place-at-stunning-altitude-360/
Millbank light pattern.
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a6afcd No.16954617
>>16948356
>Have lighting charts the way the bulbs on the grille were done?
Could give that ago. 32 floors? Starting the count from top down? Perhaps Anon could illustrate the way the floors are visible - by windows at night and how by day? Daytime pics prolly provide best basis for a template. There may be an architect's drawing that would provide solid basis.
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b31240 No.16954632
>>16943868
>could you list the factors, as you can recall, behind each of the following?
>1. Tide seen in ROT1 is high tide.
>2. TATT and HISP appeared to be closed for trade.
>3. No buses in the EMB pics.
>4. Millbank Tower light pattern/s in EMB pics indicate Christmas week.
1) HIGH TIDE. For new eyes, the high tide seen in ROT1 is evident by the relative height of the two restaurant ships in relation to their dolphin (moorings). In ROT1 we see both restaurant ships riding highest against their dolphins. Iirc, we have not found open source pics of these ships riding higher than that seen in ROT1 vis a vis their dolphins.
2) The restaurant ships seen in ROT1 appear to be closed fir business. This may indicate a late hour. However, I don’t think we have found evidence that they may have closed during nirmal business hours during severe storms recorded around the 22nd and 23rd of December. But on the other hand, if said restaurants had closed due to storms, one might expect to see some evidence of those stormy conditions in the picture.
One can see there are no restaurant patrons visible above decks and the below decks appear darkened when compared with open source nighttime pics of the ships showing lights below decks and many patrons visible on top decks.
The gate to Hispaniola’s gangplank also appears closed. See pics. If closed, the two gates will meet in the center of the gate’s frame. Observe the Chadwick pic of the Bazalgette Memorial in which the opened gates are not at the center point. In ROT1 the two side gates appear to meet in the center of the gate’s frame.
3) NO BUSES. None of the Embankment (aka Traf_cam) pics have the ubiquitous London buses evident. For the record, each year during Christmas, starting at midnight on Christmas Eve, all bus traffic stops running for 24 hours, or the entirety of the 25th until 12:01am on Boxing Day, the 26th of December. Did the restaurant ships have shortened hours on Christmas? If they did, it might allow for a Q pic around 6 or 7pm. If not, then we must look at later hours which might match a high tide.
THE MILLBANK LIGHTS. We have open source pics of the Millbank building on Christmas Day at sunset which match the building light pattern seen in LISAMI6. We surmise that such pattern could possibly have persisted from early evening on 24DEC when the last unlucky person left work at the MILLBANK on Christmas Eve. There would be no one in the building for the whole of Christmas Day and possibly the whole of Boxing Day on 26DEC.
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3da09c No.16954666
>>16954617
No luck on the drawing for Millbank Tower, there were a few came up on the results for Millbank Prison
Methinks just a chart for the North side of the building, where it faces Westminster.
If I remember, Brits count floors by Ground Floor, THEN First Floor and so on. In that case the building has a different part on the Third floor (Fourth to us Yanks around) and then proceeds upward same-same until the two uppermost
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a6afcd No.16954794
>>16954666
After looking at the collection of millbank close-ups that the dig has gathered so far, here what am thinking for a lighting chart.
1. The goal is to find best match with LisaMI6, and perhaps by extension also for the other EMB pics.
2. The point of that goal is to date LisaMi6, and maybe EMB pics overall.
3. However, we may need to compare proxies for LisaMI6 so as to date some of the gathered images which we found with no date taken or just a posted or published date.
4. Millbank Tower its form is dominated by concave and convex sides which can be tricky to map from one image to another; and from an image to a chart.
5. St George Tower appeared just over the shoulder of Millbank and its lights are also part of the puzzle we are re-assembling for dating purposes. However, for the sake of simplicity, and perhaps at some yet unknown difficulty, would propose cutting out St George from the chart, for now. Check out the comparison graphic upbread and you might reach the same conclusion: not a lot is lost in distinguishing LisaMI6 from the other images gathered. This may prove mistaken so will keep open on that.
5. The lower floors are obscured in the EMB pics, as are portions of the middle floors. While it may be useful to identify the lights by actual floor/address designations, suggest we simplify, again with chance of incurring some unknown future difficulty, so as to concentrate on what we have in front of us now.
6. The Tower has 32 floor buts 33 flights from the ground-up. Propose that we count from the top down so as to make it a bit easier to keep our bearings.
7. Across the width of the flank of the Tower that has been captured in LisaMI6 there apper to be seven [7] windows or panes. The middle one appears broader perhaps due to the form of the tower, however, I think this is because it is a wider winder area as it sits on a 'corner' midway across the width of the flank and so is double-wide - occupying twice the space as the windows on either side of it. This has not been confirmed in actuality but it appears this way; and so propose counting that as a single position with three [3] more positions on each side of it.
7. The rooftop is mostly in the dark; St George shines above and to the right of camera frame in LisaMi6; in other images the rooftop is easier to discern. Setterfield 25-DEC standsout as very clear on windows/floors and clear on rooftop shape; Bright Sister likewise and its lighting pattern works best in comparison with with Purple Sister. So propose using 25-DEC as the basis for a template that becomes the chart. That said, Bright Sister is almost a dead ringer for LisaMI6 in terms of camera angle - checkout the way that the corner of Westminster (Speaker's apartments) obscures the middle floor lighting, for example. Also see St George lighting on the rightside. This is how a proxy makes for better comparisons. The chart could incorporte this detail, as it is significant, however, for charting purposes with what we currently have, propose we note this usefulness of Bright Sister and proceed without it, for now.
See pic for a mockup of a chart overlayed onto a daylight pic of Millbank. That pic does not show the same side of the tower as we are concerned with re EMB. Just to illustrate the general chart possiblities
AND something to keep in mind: The dig may come up with ways to date proxies for EMB pics that view Millbank's related and neighbouring buildings. This chart should not be interpreted as foreclosing those possibilities.
That out of the way, ideas and observs, frens, on items 1-7?
25-DEC-2013-T? Basis for the template?
St George? Note and put aside for now?
Lower level windows, put aside for now?
Count the middle position as a single position?
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a6afcd No.16954820
>>16954794
Frens, please don't rush to use the mock-up. We'll make the chart to meet the needs of the dig/analysis and then avoid the messness of being on different pages/charts going forwrd. If major changes become needed, we can adapt at that time.
Would use letters in alphabetical order to designate positons left-to-right across the width and use numbers down the length beginning with 0 for the rooftop and 1 for the first row of lights. Whether or not this would literally convert to windows/floors might be a future concern but for now gonna keep it simple and count lit areas.
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a6afcd No.16954832
>>16954632
Excellent write-up, fren. TY.
This is prolly something we ought to do during each bread.
(And when I say, "we", err, may I propose "you"?)
We prolly have not done nearly enough to attract new eyes to the results of the digs. There's a lot on our plates. But on the chance that someone might pop in to take a looksee, a write-up such as you have just done will be quite welcoming, I imagine.
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3da09c No.16954947
>>16954794
>>16954820
So we can keep our sanity I suggest:
1) We not care about any other side of the building except the one in the Q drops and LisaMI6
2) we take advantage of what we know. I would just count down from the top the floors as they are, 33 and 32 on down remembering those two are basically one. This way we can keep in mind the Russia Today offices on the 16th Floor and find them with ease later.
3) Another good dating tool regarding pics that TinEye has no date matches for, or outright wrong dates would be those two nightclubs. I lost the notes I had about those, but knowing when those two became tenants could help. Skyloft on 28th Floor is the one that's "urban and edgy" in adverts that is either classic British culture or "inspired by Brooklyn NY lofts." That one tends to have the hot pink lighting. Altitude 360 in the one that tries to be classy modern. What makes it hard about that one is corporate events there seems to be just plain white lights on but could be purple or blue for other times. I imagine both places would use the white lights for cleaning times. If we could see a dated pic that includes the Millbank, and knowing the operating hours of those clubs, we might be able to figure about what time the pic was taken as in say we know it was after hours because Skyloft has their white lights on. I would not go by any of those tour boats moored around there unless we can nail down their hours of operation like we did to JUPITER CLIPPER and her sisters before, iirc 10PM she is done working and headed home
4) I would not sweat the Floors below the 7th, where we know the Open Society Foundation has been as I think we have enough other floors to do light patterns with and there is that "Y" shaped part on the Northern side that may obscure the lower floors of the tower in some pics as well
The 25-DEC-2013-T seems like a great Anchor Point since we know exact date taken is a Holiday and would expect the building to be mostly empty, Security may just check doors, not enter and turn on lights. I'm a bit iffy on the RT offices but from all the pics I've gone over I'd think the part of the floor on that side has the lights closest to the Thames always on.
The St George is a bit useful, since we know when it was completed. We find a pic, camera position does not show the St George but would in out target timeframe and backed up by no coloured lights for the nightclubs, we can pass that pic by.
Purple Sister and Bright Sister I'll have to get back to you on, pulled another All-Nighter on my end so my IQ will soon descend to doorknob level
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a6afcd No.16955279
>>16954947
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-sun-sets-across-westminster-and-the-london-eye-on-christmas-day-picture-id459313291?s=2048x2048
25-DEC-2013-T = basis for chart, done.
St George put aside, for now, but chart can be adapted later if needed.
For now went with counting from top. When we have better info on the designation of floor numbers we can tidy up. Right now we have no need for the ground to 20 floors anyway. BUT if solid info is dug on this detail, then, that would be useful for other purposes, as Anon said, and would provide good basis for altering chart keeping in mind that it has a main purpose and prolly can't meet every potential need in future
Here is a blank prototype. And another with the 25-DEC superimposed as reference. Expecting that simple coloured x might serve to fill-in a light position.
Work in progress. Give it a spin - but please don't rush ahead just yet. Changes and improvements can be made in next day or so.
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3da09c No.16955477
>>16955279
>Right now we have no need for the ground to 20 floors anyway
Respectfully disagree. The Open Society Foundation on the 7th floor may come in handy later if the lights change on different nights to indicate meetings or events but would be interesting to see if there is a constant with their lighting habits. Soros funding tells me they don't care about rent prices or utilities. I'm convinced there was another reason why they moved out. Big thing for me is the RT offices on the 16th floor. Journos working late is common so I'd expect those offices to be well lit every night except Christmas, the "exception that proves the rule." I will try to poke around later and see if there's any mentions of RT office parties for Christmas Eve or NYE unless another anon wants to try. I figure a good place to start is to find the constants, whose office is always lit so if the lights are out we have a marker. One thing that keeps sticking out to me when I see pics of Millbank at night is the lights on those two floors about 2/3 of the way up. Those two windows to the left (river side) on the upper floor seem to be lit in every pic just like the middle ones on the lower floor. I'm not concerned at this point to try and hunt up the tenants on every floor, just want to figure out which lights are normally on
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a6afcd No.16955678
>>16955477
Sure, the 6th and 12th have significance re tenants. Millbank is a very big facility. Except for really big occupants, most tenants would have a some windows Westminster side (the view is a sellng point) but generally their offices would not wrap around all sides of the building. That would likely change for bigger tenants the higher up they'd go. On the other hand, there are some great views from windows for which the Q pics are blind. Occupancy declined big time over the years leading up to the target time interval so there may be more to learn on that score.
The 12th might be the lowest floor visible in Lisa. That would need to be confirmed to lend some aid in the use of the chart to match-up with Lisa and the EMB pics. Do you know which side of the 12th floor the target tenants occupied? Would be an interesting dig.
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3da09c No.16955732
>>16955678
Here's some stuff that popped up when I was using metacrawler searching for architect's drawings. I had to grab from the results as when I tried to click to bring them up larger I got a "this website is under construction" notice
What got my attention was the markings of 28 & 29, but the one floorplan shows a theatre I thought was on the ground floor so they may have something to do with the proposed cultural centre included in the renovation application from 2016 when they wanted to make apartments and a 5-star hotel
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a6afcd No.16955758
Russia Today
6th Floor, 21-24 Millbank,
Westminster, London, England, SW1P 4QP
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/05522952/officers
Some of the others on 16th floor:
The Schools Network
Dance Network
First Office Hub
12th
UK India Business Council
Ifc Gif Brazil A, Lp
World Bank Group
International Finance Corporation
There have been many others. The dig on tenants would need to establish dates of occupancy and, to link to the Q pics possibly which side of the Tower they occupied.
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a6afcd No.16955765
>>16955732
There is an autitorium or exhibition room in the basement, accessible via the ground floor entrance and foyer. The floor above the ground is the 1st floor.
Noice finds. Digging Millbank is a worthy project Daunting in size, though.
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a6afcd No.16955814
>>16955765
>>16955732
Brochure, not sure of date
http://www.millbanktower.co.uk/dl/brochure.pdf
MWSW1 Homepage
http://www.millbanktower.co.uk/
The occupiers list of 2013/2014 would be better, natch, but here's a pic of current list which may incude longtime tennts.
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3da09c No.16955894
>>16955765
>Digging Millbank is a worthy project Daunting in size, though.
Now you tell me. I thought the digging on all the Q london drops was supposed to be the daunting in size thing (we are what now, 30 breads in to this or is it more?)
There's a key to the Millbank puzzle, we just haven't found it yet. Best I have gotten so far imho are the pics from those nightclubs showing cranes and purple hotels. Somewhere out there are office parties and awards events done on those floors and they are posted, just haven't found the right search terms yet.
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a6afcd No.16956144
>>16955814
Enahnced view of top floors then occupied.
Skyloft is the 30th floor.
Above that nothing.
Altittude 360 is 28 & 29.
The View and The London Sky Bar also on 28 & 29.
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3da09c No.16958099
We Are Back At the Millbank Tower Mini-Dig
A little test was just run to see how the spamanites were playing and they flooded in like before. No word yet on where the attacks originated this time.
Captcha Per Post Reengaged and the spam cleaned
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3da09c No.16958489
>>16955814
>>16956144
Weirdness, when I've been searching for Skyloft info on when they opened, I was getting usually 28th floor as location with occasional 29th
For some reason that Ronson Capital Partners seems familiar, be quite something to find out they are in the Panama Papers or something similar
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a6afcd No.16962856
>>16958489
Re-looked at the graphic >>16956144
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/9e62e58598491aa5db31708aa5dd64674732d40722b888621d271998f9d6d49c.png
Skyloft is included in the bracket for level 28 and 28. INCLUDED with Altitude 360, the View, and The London Sky Bar.
My mistake. Misread the graphic.
Looks like 30, at the time of the brochure (date unknown) was occupied by some other tenant/s.
The rooftop levels are prolly services aka The Plant, that big towers have for elevators, heating, air exchange/conditoning, electrics, and so forth. But maybe not IDK.
The vaccancies were indicated with the sq ft tgs and light blue shading. Looks like graphic shows split between Westminster view and the Thames view in other direction (not sure how they identify these views in their schematics and such).
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a6afcd No.16963119
>>16962856
bracket for levels 28 and 29.
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a6afcd No.16963558
>>16958099
Tanks Bakes.
CPP is "engaging", quite.
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561da5 No.16969577
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a6afcd No.16970388
>>16955279
For reference only.
ROT1, on the chart.
25-DEC-2013-T, dusk
Setterfield, on the chart.
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a6afcd No.16970891
For reference only.
Purple Sister, on the chart
24London, date unestablished.
Estimated Christmas week 2013
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a6afcd No.16971109
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a6afcd No.16971387
>>16971109
For reference only.
Bright Sister, on the chart.
Estimated Christmas week 2013.
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a6afcd No.16971393
>>16956144
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/a4c6e7fa19678abede199aeb2088e8b02aa3485b3e751cffd7c9705dbb12cabf.png
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/8f2f65c57a5d0b2ccb7e8601738db189ba9e87911419d70b17d291c5bc542b11.png
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/6345f6862bee54f49b526fd93ff1ba01bd9500c17a5e707c5d90f824f2e5c70c.png
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/71897b1ec130eccdbc5749b22dfad38fbf56c5838bc57cb9070739698d79e49d.png
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/0441c8698960a018678f9a3e1bf6aefd3d8cad10db252730a4aa0643ab9e2604.png
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a6afcd No.16971398
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a6afcd No.16971475
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a6afcd No.16971484
>>16971475
Reference only.
12-JAN-2014-T
Outside target time interval, for comparison.
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a23fb9 No.16971486
>>16963558
Engaging, he says. Aye aye, CPP engaged.
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a6afcd No.16971970
>>16971398
Comparisons, A.
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a6afcd No.16971973
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a23fb9 No.16972534
>>16971970
>>16971973
Check yourself anon. Firstly, really impressive graphics anon. Two things. By ‘ROT1’ do you mean LISAMI6?
Also, might you scale down Setterfield so that it matches (its DOT-DASH pattern) with LISAMI6 and 24LONDON on lines 6 and 7?
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a23fb9 No.16972554
>>16972534
Not sure nao who needs to be scaled down. Mebbe the other two need to be scaled to match Setterfield?
We just need to be mindful that although this is a best effort, and great that we are trying, one or two may be at a slightly different angle. So allow for that and have fun.
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a23fb9 No.16972594
>>16972554
After more thought, Setterfield is your best quality image to lay over your grid pattern. So start with that. The other two are more blurred and mebbe diff angles and distances so we should expect this need to adjust their images for scale. The most recognizable pattern shared is that ‘dot-dash’ pattern seen on line/floors? 5 and 6. I recommend resizing LISA and 24LONDON to match this dot-dash on SETTERFIELD.
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3da09c No.16972603
>>16972594
So would it be plot them for 3/4 views of the building they way WW bulbs were for X-mas Grille?
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a23fb9 No.16972611
>>16955477
>Big thing for me is the RT offices on the 16th floor. Journos working late is common so I'd expect those offices to be well lit every night except Christmas, the "exception that proves the rule."
It sure does. By Christmas, did you mean Russian Orthodox Christmas? January 7th?
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a23fb9 No.16972622
>>16972603
>plot them for 3/4 views of the building they way WW bulbs were for X-mas Grille?
Did we do that? ^^^^^^
I just mean shrink or enlarge the MILLBANK images on some pics to match the ‘dot-dash’ on the floors of SETTERFIELD.
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3da09c No.17066082
>>16752980
https://stock.adobe.com/images/Vauxhall/156615449?as_campaign=TinEye&as_content=tineye_match&epi1=156615449&tduid=ccb472761757a680296c1c36690d6629&as_channel=affiliate&as_campclass=redirect&as_source=arvato
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3da09c No.17066176
>>16952510 (me)
went back for the date
Tineye first found 30-NOV-2016-P https://www.mrsmithworldphotography.com/photographs-of-london-landmarks/millbank-tower
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3da09c No.17066318
There are other images of the Millbank in other buns, not sure if those are on the list to get charted
For now:
Millbank Bun
>>16747303 comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces
>>16748204, >>16748313 Getty Christmas Day 25-DEC-2013-T pic provides close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London
>>16948257, >>16948269, >>16948322 Millbank Tower lighting pattern Sunday evening twilight or dusk 12-JAN-2014-T
>>16948356 Grade II Listed, 33-storey office tower, originally known as the Vickers Tower, completed circa 1963
>>16954416, >>16954418, >>16954447, >>16954462 Altitude 360 (video)
>>16954424 Skyloft (video)
>>16952510, >>17066176 Tineye first found 30-NOV-2016-P https://www.mrsmithworldphotography.com/photographs-of-london-landmarks/millbank-tower
>>16954598 Millbank light pattern 03-MAY-2013-P https://usa.watchpro.com/hot-100-to-take-place-at-stunning-altitude-360/
>>16954794 25-DEC-2013-T = basis for chart
>>16955732 Possibly part of renovation application of 2016
>>16948298, >>16948302, >>16955758 Russia Today is a 16th Floor Tenant
>>16955814, >>16956144, >>16962856, >>16971393 Millbank Brochure, not sure of date
>>16970388 For reference only. ROT1, on the chart. 25-DEC-2013-T, dusk Setterfield, on the chart
>>16970891, >>16971109 Purple Sister, on the chart 24London, date unestablished. Estimated Christmas week 2013
>>16971387 For reference only. Bright Sister, on the chart. Estimated Christmas week 2013
>>16971475, >>16971484 Chart 12-JAN-2014-T
>>16971970 Comparisons, A
>>16971973 Comparisons, B
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514a16 No.17066386
>>17066082
That pic of the River Thames skyline was likely taken AFTER the time interval we have targeted for the Q pics. Most likely a summer photo, 2014. See attached pics.
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514a16 No.17066396
>>17066386
Process of elimination = not AUG-2013 to MAY-2014.See attached.
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514a16 No.17066414
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514a16 No.17066429
>>16972534
NOTE: the overlays are for reference only. Suggest discernment in reading each image and mapping to the chart. The overlay is not going to be super dooper accurate due to various facts, such as anons have noted upbread.
Here is another go with the overlays. Consider using the blank chart to mark either the lit windows or the unlit windows, whichever makes sense. Try out the chart, please, and we can refine if needed.
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514a16 No.17066431
>>17066429
The current blank chart for Millbank lighting patterns.
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514a16 No.17066597
>>16970388 MBsw1 map of the Tower's upper levels.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/9e62e58598491aa5db31708aa5dd64674732d40722b888621d271998f9d6d49c.png
>>16956144 Setterfield overlay on chart.
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/6345f6862bee54f49b526fd93ff1ba01bd9500c17a5e707c5d90f824f2e5c70c.png
The designation of the levels/floors is quite different from what I had thought it would be. The levels I had charted as R1, R2, R3, and 00, appear to be designated as follows.
The map of top of building shows what look like two unnumbered rooftop levels PLUS LEVEL 30. This would account for some reports that the tower has 32 floors. However, another report describes 33 floors. IDK.
R1 - Roof (lit with flood lights)
R2 & R3 = level 30 comprised of two floors?
In the dig's photos, R2 & R3 look mostly dark; the 'darkness' is sometimes broken with several "small" lit windows or but possibly exterior lights. These I designated as 00 in the chart.
This lack of clarity, at least in what references we have so far, is what prompted me to number our chart top-down based on what the dig's gathered images show. But am open to trying to nail down the actual designations if anons dig into that and thus enable counting up accordingly.
As for the rest of the upper floors:
01 = 29
02 = 28 These are labeled jointly in the tower's map; the occupants are Skyloft, Altitude 360, The View, and The London Sky Bar.
03 = 27
and so forth
05 = level 25 in tower's map
06 = level 24 in tower's map
11 = level 19
14 = 16 on tower's map
15 = 17 " " "
16 = 18 " " "
14 = 16 in tower's map
15 = 17 in tower's map
So the several levels listed above are those that were lit on when the Q camera captured LisaMI6.
May seem confusing, to some extent, only if anons are trying to figure tenants per floor or level.
If anons are digging tenants and would rather go by actual floor designations (i.e. addresses), then, perhaps first firm-up those designation of the floors as they'd correspond with the images we have on hand.
For now, gonna stick with the top-down numbering for the chart for the narrowed purpose of dating the Q pics that include Millbank Tower.
When or if we have the firmed up actual numbering from ground up, then, can place those numbers on the chart instead of the top-down numbers.
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514a16 No.17066750
>>17066429
As we find more photos inside the Q time interval, or just outside either before or after, we can figure sequences better and better.
I there an image or photo that I have missed with the overlays that we have up/prev breads? are the overlays helpful in helping to figure the lighting patterns?
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514a16 No.17066793
>>16972603
Sure, if the precise window position is hard to figure, then, could go by dividing the width of the tower facing the camera by halfs or quarters. Looks to me like there are 7 positions across, in the dig's pics, but maybe there are actually 8 positions, IDK.
The actual to the apparent difference may not amount to much importance for matching up pics for dating purpose, however, might prove useful if tenants can be attached to the light pattern, as anon mentioned upbread. THAT would likely require a different chart but we can use what we have in hand until a need arises for a new chart for that purpose.
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514a16 No.17066825
DEC-2013-T
Westminster palace and Big Ben at night, London, december 2013
By Frederic Maillard
https://stock.adobe.com/ca/images/westminster-palace-and-big-ben-at-night-london-december-2013/60159288
Dated by filename, not by a specific date taken.
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514a16 No.17066932
>>16827443 >>16766354
Repairs being made to the construction crane on The Tower hit by a helicopter at St George Wharf, London, UK -January 27, 2013
https://stock.adobe.com/ca/images/repairs-being-made-to-the-construction-crane-on-the-tower-hit-by-a-helicopter-at-st-george-wharf-london-uk-january-27-2013/302639180
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514a16 No.17066959
LONDON, ENGLAND UK - NOVEMBER 10, 2013: Bus on London street and The London Eye
By Deyan Georgiev
https://stock.adobe.com/ca/images/london-england-uk-november-10-2013-bus-on-london-street-and-the-london-eye/284051178
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514a16 No.17066962
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514a16 No.17066987
LONDON - SEPTEMBER 28, 2013: Tourists walk under Big Ben.
By jovannig
28-SEP-2013-T
https://stock.adobe.com/ca/images/london-september-28-2013-tourists-walk-under-big-ben-more-t/76807940
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3da09c No.17068310
>>17066793
So far this is the only list of tenants I have found
https://suite.endole.co.uk/explorer/postcode/sw1p-4qp
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3da09c No.17068332
>>17068310 (me)
Forgot to add these images
Notice how on the Third Floor (Fourth Floor to us Yanks) there is those obvious columns separating sets of windows
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5cdbd7 No.17068760
>>17066429
Anon, which pic (sauce) is Bright sister? I want to look at the original. Been a while and I have forgotten. I may remember it under another name.
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5cdbd7 No.17068771
>>17066932
Akshully- to be exact, Wiki says it was under construction and only just completed in January 2014.
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5cdbd7 No.17068811
>>17066429
Anons do you make out what could be a partial silhouette of some towers of Westminster in LISA? If so, should we make that a part of that graphic? This could make it a better match with Setterfield and 24LONDON than at first glance.
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3da09c No.17088249
Those spammers sure don't want anons posting
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a72ec2 No.17088434
>>17088249
Noice work Bakes, you saving this bred and deleting (((their))) shit. Thanks.
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3da09c No.17101833
I figure I have about 2 1/2 hours left before the spambots return
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a72ec2 No.17101845
>>17101833
Not if we keep captcha in place. I knew we would be in for it yesterday when kun failed to ask for captcha my 2nd and 3rd post.
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3da09c No.17101869
>>17101845
Captcha means they have to rest their gear, had 'em break through captcha before
I figure they come in cycles, and about 3AM Eastern Time is when they should hit
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3da09c No.17380786
Bump
'''Reminder, there is also a UK bread available at /midnightriders/ if needed
Maybe we get to keep this one open for more than an hour
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95d0c7 No.17381039
Let’s hope new captcha woiks.
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3da09c No.17381116
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3da09c No.17381132
Stayed up late again, oops
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fb36a2 No.17383432
Fren, I have fallen behind on the crane dig re the other cranes on South Bank. I get that we have a sequence for the cranes behind London Eye that iirc goes from there being NO CRANES visible in the Chadwick-Geograph pic on 28SEP2013, then ONE CRANE visible by the posted vid on 28NOV2013, and finally TWO CRANES by 14DEC2013 in the Kemp- Getty pic. A soft bookend but pretty gud.
How did we do with the other cranes on South Bank or to the South?
Can you please do your best to write a current progress report on that?
P.S. May one ask, for new eyes as well, your synopsis on our best progress, and bookends maybe achieved in the Winter Wonderland dig re the lights?
Thanks very much, fren.
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179617 No.17386114
Bitchute embed. Click thumbnail to play. THREE CRANES SPOTTED FROM LONDON EYE, OCT-2013-P (2ND VERSION).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/E4Am1fs4Q24U/
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179617 No.17386115
Bitchute embed. Click thumbnail to play. LONDON EYE VIEW OF CONSTRUCTION CRANES, 30-OCT-2013-P
https://www.bitchute.com/video/b51MW05DZTh0/
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179617 No.17386120
>>17068760
From a GE/SV user. The pic was uploaded by a tourist guide, it would appear, and he put the date, JAN-2014, on several pics within or close to the target area. From the looks, these "JAN-2014" pics were ALL taken around the same in mid DEC-2014, but not firmly confirmed yet. His pic of the TATT, Big Ben, and the skyline is a very good match with Q pics - esp Lisa.
Big Ben from Hungerford Bridge
Bohao Zhao
Photo - Jan 2014
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMRMGDnvN6T1_DUxC4z6AZSP4bDfFsTunI_o28=w600-h321-p-k-no
>>17071037
That cap was pulled from SV-AUG-2013, a view from river, looking down Bridge Street and beyond to the first crane that appeared at York House worksite. The crane encircled in the mark-up. Bit of evidence of a single crane at the early stages of York House deconstruction.
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179617 No.17386121
18JAN-2014, Christine Matthews . https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3820491
For ref and comparison with pics from within the Q interval for EMB pics.
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179617 No.17386122
Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 15:24:0174d7c7 (12) No.13653354
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/13495333.html#13653354
File (hide): 14e8e13438e0644⋯.png (1.82 MB, 1820x914, 910:457, ClipboardImage.png) (h) (u)
There is also this one of CH, also dated Jan 2014.
CH
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/107848010966102024975/photos/@51.5067436,-0.1244041,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1sAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs!2e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs%3Dw365-h365-k-no!7i3663!8i3665!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
London eye - >>13652846
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/107848010966102024975/photos/@0,0,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1sAF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w!2e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w%3Dw365-h273-k-no!7i4896!8i3672!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
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179617 No.17386123
Corinthia Hotel London
Bohao Zhao
Photo - Jan 2014
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5067436,-0.1244041,3a,75y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs%3Dw365-h365-k-no!7i3663!8i3665
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179617 No.17386125
London Eye from Hungerford Bridge
Bohao Zhao … NOTE THE POSTED DATE vs the content based date you might estimate.
Photo - Jan 2014
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/107848010966102024975/photos/@0,0,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1sAF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w!2e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w%3Dw365-h273-k-no!7i4896!8i3672!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w=w600-h321-p-k-no
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179617 No.17386130
Corinthia Hotel London
Bohao Zhao
Photo - Jan 2014 [posted dated, not content-based date re other photos from same night by same photographer]
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5067436,-0.1244041,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs%3Dw365-h365-k-no!7i3663!8i3665
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179617 No.17386134
Leicester Square, Bohao Zhao
Photo - Jan 2014 [Note overhead Christmas lighting and also ticket kiosk poster pattern]
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/107848010966102024975/photos/@0,0,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1sAF1QipP06dcxTQ8mXgFjrKV1dpsNenzFU8mbwBhOXHo!2e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipP06dcxTQ8mXgFjrKV1dpsNenzFU8mbwBhOXHo%3Dw365-h273-k-no!7i4896!8i3672!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
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179617 No.17386137
>>17386134
Coventry Street, Bohao Zhao
Photo - Jan 2014 [taken same night as other DEC-2013 pics by same photographer]
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/107848010966102024975/photos/@0,0,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1sAF1QipPFNCHVvT8MkbIs2rtwNjMPnDJj8HrbAcT-0kw!2e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPFNCHVvT8MkbIs2rtwNjMPnDJj8HrbAcT-0kw%3Dw365-h273-k-no!7i4896!8i3672!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
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179617 No.17386139
Image ID:FYBXB3
Date taken: 30 December 2013
Location:London Thames boat from a bridge
Christmas Lights London on the Thames London eye lit up festive water boat
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-christmas-lights-london-on-the-thames-london-eye-lit-up-boat-water-102909719.html?imageid=610DEF57-18D3-4DEB-B37D-8F2A0E9C69E1&p=305086&pn=1&searchId=071a62ccf27bbeaaa9c67020e49635d1&searchtype=0
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179617 No.17386140
NOV 25TH 2013: A view of the Christmas Market on the South Bank in London on the 25th November 2013.
Contributor:Chris Dorney / Alamy Stock Photo
Date taken:23 November 2013
https://www.alamy.com/london-uk-nov-25th-2013-a-view-of-the-christmas-market-on-the-south-image62963754.html
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179617 No.17386141
22nd Dec, 2016. No traffic on a road in Westminster. Crisp and sunny winter day with blue skies over London in the run up to Christmas Day. © Dinendra Haria/Alamy Live News
Date taken: 21 December 2016
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-london-uk-22nd-dec-2016-no-traffic-on-a-road-in-westminster-crisp-129509135.html
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179617 No.17386144
>>17386141
>>17386140
>>17386139
>>17386137
>>17386134
>>17386130
>>17386125
>>17386123
>>17386122
>>17386121
>>17386120
>>17386115
>>17386114
UK Anons, please download or copy these images and archive. POSSIBLY post the images here as well. Before next attack. Hands full at the moment.
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179617 No.17388151
Big Ben from Hungerford Bridge, Bohao Zhao, posted 14-JAN-2014, aka "Bright Sister"
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMRMGDnvN6T1_DUxC4z6AZSP4bDfFsTunI_o28=w600-h321-p-k-no
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179617 No.17388175
River Thames, London, SE1, As seen from the Golden Jubilee Bridge. The London Eye and The Houses of Parliament can be seen in the distance. Date Taken: Saturday, 18 January, 2014
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3820491
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179617 No.17388184
>>17388175
Closeup, Christine Matthews, 18-JAN-2014.
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179617 No.17388245
Corinthia Hotel, Bphoa Zhoa
14-JAN-2014-P
Note that the description provided with the onlline pic states the mage was captured JAN 2014, however, this is one in a series from the same photographer whose other pics appear to have been taken in DEC-2013. So whether posted or taken the date has yet to bne confrmed. Have reached out to the photographer for clarification.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5067436,-0.1244041,3a,75y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPxBIiOsgBEJ0zOZWMi68XgNLFl585JR7qqYcs%3Dw365-h365-k-no!7i3663!8i3665
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179617 No.17388272
London Eye from Hungerford Bridge
Bohao Zhao … NOTE THE POSTED DATE vs the content based date you might estimate.
Photo - Jan 2014
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/107848010966102024975/photos/@0,0,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e2!3m5!1sAF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w!2e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM9G0lOksibYcJ_-GL4FNTdgqWvQLRf76e2c0w%3Dw365-h273-k-no!7i4896!8i3672!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
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179617 No.17388299
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3da09c No.17388597
>>17386139
Jane Russell / Alamy Stock Photo
Date taken:30 December 2013
Location:London Thames boat from a bridge
More information: Christmas Lights London on the Thames London eye lit up festive water boat
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-christmas-lights-london-on-the-thames-london-eye-lit-up-boat-water-102909719.html?imageid=610DEF57-18D3-4DEB-B37D-8F2A0E9C69E1&p=305086&pn=1&searchId=071a62ccf27bbeaaa9c67020e49635d1&searchtype=0
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3da09c No.17388620
>>17386140
Chris Dorney / Alamy Stock Photo
Date taken:23 November 2013
LONDON, UK - NOV 25TH 2013: A view of the Christmas Market on the South Bank in London on the 25th November 2013.
https://www.alamy.com/london-uk-nov-25th-2013-a-view-of-the-christmas-market-on-the-south-image62963754.html
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3da09c No.17388644
Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>16704118, >>16704289 Signs of cranes in open sauces in places that would have been within the camera frames of each of the EMB pics
>>16704327 At least six cranes around Dec 2013
>>16704415, >>16704460 22-DEC-2013-T Daytime pic over looking TATTERSHALL CASTLE, 4 to 5 cranes visible over Vauxhall
>>16705019, >>16705021 At least three [3] cranes lit in night pic of 28-SEP-2013-T
>>16719993, >>16742328 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16742364, >>16742373 Cap of N. Chadwick pic of Thames skyline 28-SEP-2013-T Three cranes at Vauxhall, No pink/purple lit building, apparently
>>16747634 Closeup of the Albert Embankment as captured by Chadwick 22-DEC-2013, daytime, at least four cranes at Vauxhall
>>16748734, >>16748997, >>16767403 TinEye says first found 6 December 2014. Notice the cranes on left. The nearest St. George Tower has big white floodlight, the one left has white flood and a red for the two boom sections
>>16749161, >>16767266, >>16767292 ROT1 Match: Mike Kemp, Date created: 14 December, 2013: UK - London - South Bank View during the busy Christmas season towards the London Eye and Westminster. Cranes behind London Eye
>>16749877, >>16753025 Shutterstock 134752082: TineEye says first found 31 August, 2013 St George Tower not complete, but lower floors have the lights on No demolition for Corniche or Dumont
>>16753525, >>16753556 Four cranes, GE-AUG-2013 and SV-AUG-2013
>>16765628 Four cranes 10-AUG-2013-T The one to the left of the Crowne Plaza is there, but lights not visible, had to enlarge the image to see it
>>16766354, >>16767268, >>16769475, >>17066932, >>17068771 January 2013, helicopter collides with crane at St George Tower. Civil Aviation Authority confirmed red aviation warning lights on tall structures only need to be turned on at night - and not during bad weather in daylight hours - because they are not visible in fog or low cloud
>>16754266 Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013-T Up river to Westminster Bridge https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816144 And a closelup modified to enhance view of the cranes and buiding profiles
>>16767324, >>16767344, >>16767348, >>16767357, >>16767381, >>1676403, NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 cranes
>>16767429 Shutterstock, TinEye says first found 28 April, 2014 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/view-vauxhall-bridge-center-london-night-189181721? Two cranes to far right, looks like hoarding on those buildings demolished for the Corniche
>>16767481 #6 in the set, Tineye first found 24 Dec, 2015. Four, maybe five cranes behind the Millbank Tower. One crane with horizntal boom visible in Vauxhall to left of St George Tower
>>16772090, >>16772111 Vid comparison, AUG v DEC 2013 https://youtu.be/u0X4d9PMuoU
>>16786350, >>16786435 Park Plaza County Hall and Park Plaza Westminster, a theory meets a quick death
>>16784670, >>16784803 January 31, 2013 Matthew Gibs: Building behind the Eye is Southbank Place crane next to St George, a tall white one behind Southbank Place, and another one at the extreme left of the pic
>>16794882, >>16794993, >>16795136, 16795265, >>16795270, >>16795310, >>16795398, >>16795497 Crane at St Thomas Hospital. GE-JUL-2013-P and GE-AUG-2013-T
>>16838436 Reference pics from Waterloo Bridge 2015 re South Bank and LE and County Hall rooftop. Note the crane with the fixed jib at St Thomas worksite was recorded at same time as the crane/s over York House worksite 24-APR-2015-P
>>16931698 GE-AUG-2013 marked-up to show location of various cranes and worksites along Albert Embankment plus the site behind the railtracks. That was on Tinworth St, so tagged it as the Tinworth worksite
>>16931466, >>16931570, >>16931698 More images to place cranes at work sites
>>16935441, >>16937097, >>16937121, >>16937136, >>16937185 NYE Timelapse 2013/2014 Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P
>>17386114 Three cranes spotted from London Eye, OCT-2013-P (2ND VERSION). https://www.bitchute.com/video/E4Am1fs4Q24U/ (video)
>>17386115 London Eye view of construction cranes 30-OCT-2013-P https://www.bitchute.com/video/b51MW05DZTh0/ (video)
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3da09c No.17388650
Updated Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun
>>16704568 Image with two details that distinguish the scene from the Q-pics re CH
>>16704672 08-DEC-2012-T Corinthia Hotel and Blue Boris Bikes
>>16704822 Pics of the Yellow bike taken by same photographer on 22-DEC-2013. Both show one wheel IN FRONT of a post, Q pics show the wheel BEHIND that same post - with the exception of CH3
>>16704936 SV-May-2012 showing the pedestrian island
>>16705073, >>16720953 Yellow Bike SV images parked with one wheel in front of the post, SV-MAY-2014-P
>>16734442, >>16734449 1-MAR-2014-T Corinthia Hotel, blue Boris Bikes, Spamalot at the Playhouse Theatre, and that little green with white cross First Aid sign or whatever it is on the pole
>>17386122, >>17386123, >>17386130 Bahao Zhao Corinthia Hotel (night) January 2014 (big text links)
Millbank Bun
>>16747303 comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces
>>16748204, >>16748313 Getty Christmas Day 25-DEC-2013-T pic provides close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London
>>16948257, >>16948269, >>16948322 Millbank Tower lighting pattern Sunday evening twilight or dusk 12-JAN-2014-T
>>16948356 Grade II Listed, 33-storey office tower, originally known as the Vickers Tower, completed circa 1963
>>16954416, >>16954418, >>16954447, >>16954462 Altitude 360 (video)
>>16954424 Skyloft (video)
>>16952510, >>17066176 Tineye first found 30-NOV-2016-P https://www.mrsmithworldphotography.com/photographs-of-london-landmarks/millbank-tower
>>16954598 Millbank light pattern 03-MAY-2013-P https://usa.watchpro.com/hot-100-to-take-place-at-stunning-altitude-360/
>>16954794 25-DEC-2013-T = basis for chart
>>16955732 Possibly part of renovation application of 2016
>>16948298, >>16948302, >>16955758 Russia Today is a 16th Floor Tenant
>>16955814, >>16956144, >>16962856, >>16971393 Millbank Brochure, not sure of date
>>16970388 For reference only. ROT1, on the chart. 25-DEC-2013-T, dusk Setterfield, on the chart
>>16970891, >>16971109 Purple Sister, on the chart 24London, date unestablished. Estimated Christmas week 2013
>>16971387 For reference only. Bright Sister, on the chart. Estimated Christmas week 2013
>>16971475, >>16971484 Chart 12-JAN-2014-T
>>16971970 Comparisons, A
>>16971973 Comparisons, B
>>17066429 Six overlays to compare
>>17066431 The current blank chart for Millbank lighting patterns
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3da09c No.17388656
Updated Other References Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732209, >>16732538, >>16733324, >>16734100 Reference pic to show the distance from Hungerford Bridge to TATTERSHALL CASTLE 25-OCT-2014-T
>>16734821 24-OCT-2015-T Post-Refit TATTERSHALL CASTLE, RAF Memorial is dark
>>16747168 8-NOV-2016-T Link to 21 second vid showing darkened RAF Memorial https://www.bitchute.com/video/NgOsVFAEw9Pd/
>>16747275 OCT-2011, Reference, view from footbridge similair to Q pics, especially LisaMi6. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mt7jBASQ5LvO/
>>16747303 Vid, comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bzft57cyoYTI/
>>16754564 Picadilly Circus Snowglobe: Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
>>16756137 December 2013, the Weather closes in
>>16756217 View from the Pentagon, NIOC
>>16754281, >>16754319, >>16767276 NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 with modified versions to bring out the treecover which obscures the view of Albert Embankment
>>16772437, >>16772512, >>16772598 London Weather to consider
>>16772531, >>16772538, >>16800117 14-DEC-2013-P? "Roberts London" Southbank Christmas Markets London Christmas Gift Shopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRA9SCOi3y0
>>16772611, >>16772641, >>16773003, >>16781408, >>16794292, >>16794337, >>16794433 23-NOV-2013-P Christmas in London 2013 https://youtu.be/3ESHoO1cpl8 (https://ok.ru/video/3634365838)
>>16780506 London Plane trees
>>16781253, >>16781263, >>16781287, >>16781300 Victoria Embankment, New Years Eve crowds with Big Ben, evening, DEC-2013
>>16787440, >>16787526, >>16791909 Lest we forget, another marker/mystery: The flag pole near The Eye
>>16787620, >>16936038 06-DEC-2013-P Night vid The Eye, Red Bull Music Academy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRPNlRzCuw Crack Magazine 20 Sep 2012 mentions Red Bull Academy taking over London Eye for each pod as a club
>>16791176, 16791421 Moon over Thames AUG 2015 Moon seen through The Eye https://youtu.be/kl2h-UVx5TI
>>16791636 Moon over Thames, 16-DEC-2014, London UK. (timelapsed) https://youtu.be/t1ufG8oAPzI
>>16792661 Reference vidcaps, JUL-2014-P Series of vidcaps confirm this recording made AFTER time interval for EMB pics and BEFORE winter of 2015/2016 Views of Southbank from two different angles
>>16935441, >>16937097, >>16937121, >>16937136, >>16937185 NYE Timelapse 2013/2014 Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OjQHt2UUqg
>>16937260, >>16937285 06-JAN-2013-P Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night
>>16937638, >>16937673 24-NOV-2013-T Includes views of the Red Bus scene background, Piccadilly Circus, London Eye, and Big Ben; movie posters on kiosk to identify https://youtu.be/7YErQn6Dgy8
>>16931256, >>16931338 Wheelie trash bins may help narrow the dates
>>16937260, >>16937285 Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night. 06-JAN-2013 from https://youtu.be/Dc3T2O4vMj0
>>16941276 More Street Views from August 2013
>>16941308 SV-MAY-2014 St Thomas worksite and crane
>>16941325, >>16941331 SV-MAY-2014 St Thomas relative to The Eye and to Urbanest
>>17386120, >>17388151 Bohao Zhao, Big Ben from Hungerford Bridge Photo - Jan 2014 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMRMGDnvN6T1_DUxC4z6AZSP4bDfFsTunI_o28=w600-h321-p-k-no
>>17386121, >>17388175, >>17388184 Christine Matthews Saturday 18JAN-2014 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3820491
>>17386125 Bohao Zhao London Eye from Hungerford Bridge January 2014
>>17386134 Bohao Zhao Leicester Square, Photo - Jan 2014 [Note overhead Christmas lighting and also ticket kiosk poster pattern] (big text lik)
>>17386137 Bohao Zhao Coventry Street, Photo - Jan 2014 [taken same night as other DEC-2013 pics by same photographer]
>>17386139, >>17388597 Jane Russell / Alamy Stock Photo - Date taken:30 December 2013
>>17386140, >>17388620 Chris Dorney / Alamy Stock Photo Date taken:23 November 2013; NOV 25 2013: A view of the Christmas Market on the South Bank in London on the 25th November 2013. https://www.alamy.com/london-uk-nov-25th-2013-a-view-of-the-christmas-market-on-the-south-image62963754.html
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3da09c No.17388660
Notables are NOT Endorsements
passing 650
#47
>>16720935, >>16721106 Anons notices the constellations visible despite city lights in 2018 Alamy stock pic
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732365 Man acquitted re Air India bombing has been shot in Canada
>>16732851 From General Research: World Health Organization Officially States That There Are More Than Two Biological Genders
>>16749548 Request for Anons: Please show the following video (Winter Wonderland) to a normie. The purpose is to test this video for ease of comprehension
>>16770726, >>16770746 Devin Nunes announced on podcast Truth Social is open in the UK
>>16827041 From General Research: W.H.O. Appoints Veteran Communist Party of Britain Member to Advisory Panel
>>16938686 From General Research: Doomed UK Trans Kids Clinic Left ‘Thousands of Damaged Children’ In Its Wake
>>16942328 Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16942334 Updated Urbanest Bun | Salamanca Worksite, later Parliament Apartments Bun
>>17388644 Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>17388650 Updated Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun | Millbank Bun
>>17388656 Updated Other References Bun
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3da09c No.17396141
Had to get #47 cleaned up again
Not sure if it is just these digs, or related stuff
Somebody does not want anons posting or sharing
A larp for underwater basket weaving that on Weekends goes to a Forum for yak hair rug making
Honestly, Some People
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16ab3a No.17396265
Can’t link to any posts. Is that a neu security measure?
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3da09c No.17396703
>>17395265
Seems to be thus far, and not completely effective.
Anons shine Light where they want shadows to hide
The current spammer is just a slight distraction
Anons Know
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3da09c No.17396708
>>17396703
Hmmm new twist?
Meant for >>17396265
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16ab3a No.17396768
Baker, still not able to link. Am trying to manually enter link to your post. This denial of linkage could be effective in a spam storm against those shills who linked all of their posts to OP.
Test.
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16ab3a No.17396781
Cannot link posts. Captcha would not let me scroll down to check the box to agree to terms and conditions, or to click the ‘Let me post’ button. So, I went to top of bred to preemptively do a captcha.
But I still can’t link.
Trying a manual link to Baker
here: >>17396708
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16ab3a No.17396782
>>17396781
Okay some things NEW:
1) My manually typed link worked
2) I am able to only link to MY last post.
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16ab3a No.17396786
Can’t link to ANY other posts but my last two posts.
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16ab3a No.17396788
>>17396786
Giving up for nao. Be back latr.
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e08efa No.17401127
Still CANNOT LINK to posts in UK Bread.
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751503 No.17401147
>>17396265
Okay, restarted browser. Can link nao. Weird that it was just UK bred. Oh well.
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3da09c No.17404438
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. General Research #21329 >>17404053
British Royal Air Force No Longer Offering Pilot Jobs to White Men — Only Women and Ethnic Minorities May Apply
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/british-royal-air-force-no-longer-offering-pilot-jobs-white-men-women-ethnic-minorities-may-apply-video/
The British Royal Air Force has suspended job offers to white men to meet their diversity targets. No longer will white men be hired to pilot the RAF planes. They are the wrong color and gender. There is a word for this — it’s called racism. The head of recruitment resigned over the impossible diversity targets. The liberals are compromising the UK’s safety to achieve their diversity targets.
Sky News reported:
https://news.sky.com/story/raf-pauses-job-offers-for-white-men-to-meet-impossible-diversity-targets-12674409
The head of RAF recruitment has resigned in protest at an “effective pause” on offering jobs to white male recruits in favour of women and ethnic minorities, defence sources have claimed.
The senior female officer apparently handed in her notice in recent days amid concerns that any such restrictions on hiring, however temporary and limited, could undermine the fighting strength of the Royal Air Force (RAF), the sources said.
''They said the service was attempting to hit “impossible” diversity targets.
The defence sources accused Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston, the head of the RAF, of appearing willing to compromise UK security at a time of growing threats from Russia and China in pursuit of albeit important goals such as improving diversity and inclusion.''
One of the defence sources noted how General Sir Patrick Sanders, the head of the army, has likened today’s security challenges to those in the build-up to the Second World War, warning that the UK is facing its “1937 moment”.
Video at:
https://youtu.be/AF8qtFRELX8
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179617 No.17405151
What Are the FBI and CIA Hiding?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-are-the-fbi-and-cia-hiding-1533078662
By Thomas J. Baker
July 31, 2018 7:11 pm ET
Pic
George Papadopoulos in London.
PHOTO: AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
Q 1780
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-are-the-fbi-and-cia-hiding-1533078662
[UK]
Q
The agency might have led the bureau down a rabbit hole in the 2016 Trump counterintelligence probe.
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179617 No.17405202
>>17405151
>>17405151
Did the Central Intelligence Agency lead the Federal Bureau of Investigation down a rabbit hole in the counterintelligence investigation of Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign?
Although the FBI’s case officially began July 31, 2016, there had been investigative activity before that date. John Brennan’s CIA might have directed activity in Britain, which could be a problem because of longstanding agreements that the U.S. will not conduct intelligence operations there. It would explain why the FBI continues to stonewall Congress as to the inquiry’s origin.
Further, what we know about the case’s origin does not meet the threshold required by the attorney general guidelines for opening a counterintelligence case. That standard requires “predicate information,” or “articulable facts.”
From what has been made public, all that passes for predicate information in this matter originated in Britain. Stefan Halper, an American who ran the Centre of International Studies at Cambridge, had been a CIA source in the past. Recent press reports describe him as an FBI informant. Joseph Mifsud, another U.K.-based academic with ties to Western intelligence, met with Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos on April 26, 2016. Mr. Mifsud reportedly mentioned “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. Then, on May 10, Mr. Papadopoulos met with Australian Ambassador Alexander Downer in London, to whom he relayed the claim about “dirt” on Mrs. Clinton.
continued…
Sauce:
What Are the FBI and CIA Hiding?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-are-the-fbi-and-cia-hiding-1533078662
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179617 No.17405210
>>17405202
continued
Peter Strzok, the FBI’s deputy assistant director, went to London Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the case was opened, ostensibly to interview Mr. Downer about his conversation with Mr. Papadopoulos. But what about the earlier investigative activity? The FBI would not usually maintain an informant in England. It is far likelier that in the spring of 2016 Mr. Halper was providing information to British intelligence or directly to the CIA, where Mr. Brennan was already pushing the collusion narrative.
James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, has acknowledged that “intelligence agencies” were looking into the collusion allegations in spring 2016. The Guardian, a British newspaper, reported that British intelligence had been suspicious about contacts between associates of Mr. Trump’s campaign and possible Russian agents. That prompted Robert Hannigan, then head of Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters, to pass information to Mr. Brennan. With only these suspicions, Mr. Brennan pressured the FBI into launching its counterintelligence probe.
The FBI lacked any real predicate. But in the post-9/11 world, a referral from the CIA would cause some in the FBI to believe they had to act—particularly as the agency’s information originated with America’s closest ally. Shortly after the case opened that summer, Mr. Brennan gave a briefing to then-Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, telling him that the CIA had referred the matter to the FBI—an obvious effort to pressure the bureau to get moving on the collusion case.
As the FBI’s investigation progressed, it would use a surveillance warrant against Carter Page, a former member of Mr. Trump’s campaign, who had been in contact with Mr. Halper. A dossier prepared for the Clinton campaign by Christopher Steele, formerly of Britain’s MI6, was used to obtain the warrant.
The existence of the investigation was withheld from the congressional “gang of eight” because of its “sensitivity,” former FBI Director James Comey later said. The FBI continues to withhold the full details of the origin story from Congress. Their rationale is the “protection of sources,” as the origin lies with our best international partner.
Although Mr. Brennan has exposed himself as a biased actor, the CIA has escaped criticism for using only thinly sourced information from British intelligence to snooker the FBI. Most damaging is the possibility that the CIA violated agreements with Britain by spying there rather than asking MI5 or MI6 to do so. And that may be what is really being withheld from Congress.
Mr. Baker is a retired FBI special agent and legal attaché.
Appeared in the August 1, 2018, print edition as 'What Are the FBI and CIA Hiding?'.
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179617 No.17405256
>>17405151
Papadopoulos pic from his Facebook website, as per Agence France-Presse / Getty Images.
Photo analysis. Picture taken at Harrods in London, UK. Taken between May 2014 and May 2015. Summer. So Summer 2014.
See details for markers in immediate vicinity of Bus Stop KA at Harrods, 87-135 Brompton Road, London, UK. Also see TfL bus route No. 14 to Putney Bridge.
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179617 No.17405281
>>17405151 >>17405202 >>17405210 >>17405256
For emphasis:
Although the FBI’s case officially began July 31, 2016, there had been investigative activity before that date.
Peter Strzok, the FBI’s deputy assistant director, went to London Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the case was opened, ostensibly to interview Mr. Downer about his conversation with Mr. Papadopoulos. But what about the earlier investigative activity?
The FBI continues to withhold the full details of the origin story from Congress.
Most damaging is the possibility that the CIA violated agreements with Britain by spying there rather than asking MI5 or MI6 to do so. And that may be what is really being withheld from Congress.
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179617 No.17405328
UK Anons, please use the Millbank chart to record your discerned view of the light pattern on the building for each pic that has been gathered. Please use an x or some other means to mark the pattern onto the chart. Please use the naming scheme, DATE T/P and name of Photographer or other means to name the source.
TY
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c1696b No.17405752
>>17066825
Anons, what do you make of this solitary strand of lighting suspended between two (poles?) it seems across the Westminster Bridge entrance? Is it a modest Christmas decoration across the bridge entrance? It is visible in LISA and Kemp-Getty pic as well.
Or have we already got narrower bookends with the cranes dig?
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c1696b No.17405925
>>17405752
Well, it’s not suspended over the bridge entrance. Was hoping it might be a temporary holiday decoration but it seems just an odd bit of the Embankment lighting, not connected with the rest of the lights strung by the riverside. Has the same pole lights as well.
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6ffe12 No.17407657
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3da09c No.17408139
>>17405752
It seems to be stand-alone lighting.
First pic TinEye first found 28 September 2016
Second I couldn't get a Tineye date on
I look at the Bohao Zhao "Bright Sister" 14-JAN-2014 posted at >>17388151 I can see the same string of lights
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59f942 No.17408213
>>17408139
Can only guess it is a remnant of the EMB lights but at some point in time the wharf was put in or expanded to necessitate the removal of the EMB lights in front of the wharf, thus cutting off that final strand in an odd way.
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3da09c No.17408226
>>17408139 (me)
Seems to be just Municipal Lighting, nothing regarding holiday schemes
Last pic (oh look! Millbank Tower in there) first found 28 March 2017
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3da09c No.17408270
In Canada, the Zamboni Driver is an often celebrated person
How is the Recognition thing going in the UK for a Crane Operator?
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849c0c No.17408660
>>17408270
>How is the Recognition thing going in the UK for a Crane Operator?
Hello, is this the crane operator?
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3da09c No.17409891
>>17408660
Cheeky boy
Come on up here, should see a city from the heights
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849c0c No.17410369
>>17066429
Am going to stay away from mapping lights this time as it leads me to angry disagreements, but may I suggest, since you already have the diagrams side-by-side, that you might consider putting the actual pictures below each diagram? I find myself wanting to go and look at the originals for each as I look at the diagrams.
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0cc3e2 No.17416445
>>17405752
Noice DEC-2013 pic of shroud behind BB. Gud spotting that string of lights near Bridge Street. Provided a Q-match on those two markers plus the lighting on both the apartments for the House Speaker and Lord Speaker.
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0cc3e2 No.17416464
>>17408139
>>17405752
The same two lamp posts with the string of whites lilghts appeared in that night photo of 2016.
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849c0c No.17416566
>>17416464
Unfortunately, appears a permanent fixture. But haven’t been able to ID the light glare sources to its right in LISA. Can’t find those lights in open source pics. Or, these red pixellations.
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849c0c No.17416672
>>17405925
>>17405925
Hey, don’t know who posted this guy’s pic first, but is that 31DEC2013? Oli Scarff-Getty.
I see a big banner over Victoria Embankment, past the Air Memorial. See that? Is that 2013?
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3da09c No.17417004
>>17416672
London Fireworks 2013 2014 New Year's Eve Fireworks (audience perspective, Embankment)
Time 1:25, there's a banner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v0CDXGyewk
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3da09c No.17417111
>>17417004 (me)
Here's a good one. 14:47 run time, same 31-DEC-2013-T
Professional broadcast video footage, multiple camera angle including aerial shots.
Two cranes behind the hotels (aerial footage confirms)
Hoarding at Westminster, multiple angles
13:07 is a good shot of party goers on TATTERSHALL CASTLE's stern
Bonus: Our vloggers from the Winter Wonderland are there on the Embankment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ8h8GTO-yw
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0cc3e2 No.17417208
>>17417111
>Bonus: Our vloggers from the Winter Wonderland are there on the Embankment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ8h8GTO-yw
>>16696831
>2. Interesting choice of interviewees in the crowd all improvised, certainly. Kek. Curious.
>Mark 5:06
https://youtu.be/2KCKIPeHK-I?t=306
"Great" mindz thunking alikes.
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849c0c No.17418153
>>17416566
Can make out the item indicated by the left blue arrow as the statue of Baodicea and her two daughters. Nothing else.
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0cc3e2 No.17421332
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>17416566 >>16949056
The two objects point at by red arrows appear to be in the street but above the level of the lamp posts.
Well, perhaps the smaller one is across the junction and closer to the walls of Westminster Palace. Maybe a flood light reflection on the wall.
The larger one? View under the branches of trees, possibly, and so a combination of a street lamp there, headlights shone onto the flank of an oncoming truck or bus, and headlamps on the wall.
Here are a few images from sauces posted before sometime. A vid of a 360 view is coming up later.
Vid, night, view of the junction, 14-JAN-2014-P.
https://youtu.be/LVD7xmwComc
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0cc3e2 No.17421349
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>17421332
Another night view of the junction, from the LE, recorded previous year.
DEC-2013-T
https://youtu.be/w9qJn3XwYU8
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0cc3e2 No.17421364
>>17421349
Koreckshun.
Recorded DEC-2014-T.
Not 2013.
DEC-2014-T.
For reference re view of junction at night.
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0cc3e2 No.17421375
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>17421349
Another vid night vid with limited view of junction.
Recorded JAN-2013.
So a full year prior to >>16949056
Another reference.
https://youtu.be/sKkwBNf7qVE
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0cc3e2 No.17421395
>>17421332
Cap from following vid.
https://youtu.be/EnTdosv5y2Q
Original was posted FEB-2013-T at night, from the GJ footbridge.
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0cc3e2 No.17421433
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>17421349
Another ref vid from sauce posted before sometime.
Record on foot at the junction. Daylight. Can see how buses passing through junction could have caught headlamps from opposing traffic. Also the windows on the building at the corner.
APR-2014
https://youtu.be/kykynNl2F7U
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0cc3e2 No.17421444
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Another reference, recorded in 2012, at the junction, on foot, daytime.
https://youtu.be/BA7E8m7Lsqg
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0cc3e2 No.17421466
>>17421444
Reference, FEB-2014.
On foot at junction and also view from LE.
https://youtu.be/lYIwqlyoz-8
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0cc3e2 No.17421483
>>17421433
Ref vid NOV-2013-P.
https://youtu.be/3ESHoO1cpl8
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0cc3e2 No.17421503
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>17418153
>>17416566
>>17421349, >>17421332, >>17421395, >>17421466, >>17421483
We have moar than we know.
Previously posted sauces can provide gud references.
Here's a new vid on the Westminster Bridge with clear views of the junction and 360 degree both sides of the River. Thames.
New Year Eve, 01-JAN-2014-T. View from Bridge Street, London, UK.
https://youtu.be/ZMeboDHEZmI
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0cc3e2 No.17421541
Here is a pic that has been modified to simulate the night views. Look for the lower branches of the tree cover relative to middle of the Victoria Embankment at the junction.
Could be a peak-a-boo through which headlamps flashed on flank of a vehicle? Possibly part of the bright area in LisaMI6 was the street lamp at meridian?
Worth scrutinizing. Might not be a marker timewise.
2014 SEPT 24
Compare with LisaMI6 closeup.
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849c0c No.17421996
>>17421541
Noicely done. I think you have ID’d that gap in the trees. And your theory of a temporary reflection of headlamps is gud, especially at the intersection. Could just be a spotlight on the building. And speaking of which, that cross-like pattern on the wall near the Speaker’s House appears a permanent lighting effect from that excellent example you found.
Really gud job finding those sauces. Oh well, you were saying we should comment if we see something, and we did take a gud look I think.
Nao, how about that banner over the street on NYE? Do you think we should have caught a glimpse of it if it was in place? What kind ol sign is it? Instructional re parking? Or re an upcoming marathon or something? When might the banner have been put up? Can we use that as a bookend if it should have been visible to us from our vantage points?
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3da09c No.17422058
>>17421996
Once again, trash collectors to the rescue
I see a banner!
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/01/article-2532094-1A5D3F8200000578-971_964x639.jpg
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5caca4 No.17422187
And look at that Green First Aid direction provided. I’ve got it, Sir.
The green first-aid sign seen on Northumberland was placed there as part of a coordinated signage effort prior to NYE.
The question is, when did the banner appear? I’ll wager the same time the green first aid sign went up, Sir. That is if you agree with certain circular reasoning and illogic built in to my system to make me more intuitive, more autistic.
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5caca4 No.17422319
>>17422187
So, the absence of the first-aid sign near the cabman’s shelter could mean the Corinthia Hotel series of pics pre-dates the directional, restroom and first-aid signage (including street banner on Victoria) being put up, days before NYE? If we can’t see either the banner or the first-aid sign on Northumberland, then we could say we have shaved a couple of days off our “not later than” bookend for the last couple of days in December 2013. That is if you can accept my circular reasoning and illogic programming, Sirs.
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3da09c No.17422326
>>17422187
Looked back and in >>16781287 there's the banner but NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 in >>16754281 I detect no banner just like no banner for NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 in >>16754319
I see the banner in the Walter Bibikow 30-DEC-2013-T (screenshot has the 30 date for alamy) at >>16781253 with the enlargement at 2nd pic >>16781287 showing the banner quite well
It would behoove us to backtrack to see what we know of the history of that little first aid sign on Northumberland. We may be able to decide if the banner for NYE and the sign are indeed contemporaries. Next bread may just get titled Return To Northumberland
Since Anon has been so gracious, we may all wish to heed #45 >>16423993 and have downloaded UK Notables. >>>/tech/10887253
Noice job Anon!
The dig has another angle, matching up banner by RAF Memorial with first aid sign on Northumberland.
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5caca4 No.17422375
>>17422326
>Noice job Anon!
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3da09c No.17424732
>>17422326 (me)
Upbread:
>>16734449 Taken 1 March 2014 shows the first aid sign. Seems early for St. Patrick's Day, but when was the Marathon again?
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5caca4 No.17424931
>>16781253
>>17422326
>I see the banner in the Walter Bibikow 30-DEC-2013-T (screenshot has the 30 date for alamy) at >>16781253 with the enlargement at 2nd pic >>16781287 showing the banner quite well
That shows you can’t rely on the photog getting the date right even on their own pics. The idiot photog forgot that NYE is on 31DEC? Unless they were PRACTICING standing in the middle of Victoria with crowds of people on the 30th. ;-)
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3da09c No.17424978
>>17424931
I'd guess just a typo, but I wasn't there so I cannot rule out Londoners decided to start the party early
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0cc3e2 No.17425590
>>16937638
The 24-NOV-2013-T vid, and the screencap of the corner at Whitcomb and Coventry streets, provides a very close Q match at the ticket kiosk.
That means if we find a mismatch for the kiosk posters at a later date then, we may have a new bookend. But first thing is to id the posters and match-up dates for the running of the films or events to see if we can firm lup the 24-NOV stake in the ground. Corroboration.
In the meantime, we do have pictorial evidence of a police viewing platform in that location at least by 31-DEC-2013; but this alone can not rule out a later date for the Q pic at that location. The platform was taken down at some point but for how long it stood there, before NYE and after, we dunno.
The 24-Nov stake fits within the mid-NOV-2013 period during which the overhead decorative lights were installed and on display. So there's that corroboration. Moar?
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0cc3e2 No.17425679
>>17421996 >>17422058
>how about that banner over the street on NYE
This is an excellent find. The banner would be a marker on either side of 31-DEC/01JAN, perhaps for 2-3 days. If nothing else, this banner helps further rule-out those two dates within the current bookends.
>>17422187
>the same time the green first aid sign went up
>>17422319
That infographic depicted a first aid sign prior to 2-MAR-2014. The trees in that stock photo do look fairly bare so maybe Jan?
Would not be the first time that the attributed dates in these stock photos has been off.
Anons might search for images of around or on NYE-2013/14 on Northumberland. Lots of handhelds at that event. IF that sign was on THAT post in such an image, then, hmmmmm.
Seem to recall a vid of a bike rider, maybe during a race or maybe just a commute, that showed that post with such a sign on it. If the sign persisted from NYE to the time of that vid, then, it would support an earlier NOT AFTER bookend.
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0cc3e2 No.17425776
>>17422319 >>17422187
The 1st Aid sign appeared on post near Cabman's shelter in a vid recorded PRE-23-MAR-2014-P.
And recording matched the stock photo with the attributed date of 2-MAR-2014 on the 1st Aid sign and also on another sign that appeared on a post near the bike hire docking station. See pics
https://youtu.be/tmYgjM_AwU4
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0cc3e2 No.17425786
>>17425776
None of the Q pics showed either of those two signs. So far have seen only the back of the sign near the bikes but it seems to have the same shape, size, and orientation as the 1st aid sign near the bottom of the footbridge stairs. Might be another 1st Aid sign.
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0cc3e2 No.17425815
>>17425776 >>17425786 >>17422187
At the moment, the banner of NYE and the 1st Aid sign on Northumberland were captured in pics that were 2 and 3 months apart. Remember that there was a fatal motorbike accident at the pedestrian island by the Corinthia Hotel; changes to the bollards there have dated AFTER the Q pics of that scene.
The 23-MAR-2014-p vid was captured AFTER the accident and AFTER the stock photo dated 2-MAR-2014. So, unless the stock photo's date is doubted, and it might be, these two signs showed up at least at the start of March 2014.
If there is evidence that these two signs appeared earlier, then, that would move the NOT AFTER bookend for the Q pics that included the CH. And, if the 1st aid sign on the banner can be linked to the signs near CH, we have a very strong temporal link between EMB and CH pics. in that case, move the bookend and it is moved for both EMB and CH.
AND LisaMI6?
Anons, please mark on LisaMI6 the approx location of the where the banner was situated on NYE.
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0cc3e2 No.17425906
>>16734449
The Alamy stock photo was found a couple of years ago but without an assigned "Date Taken" which was 2-MAR-2014.
On other stock photos I have made inquiries and not one of the dates that were given in responses was credible. For a recent example, one of the winter 2013/2014 pics of the LE/Thames was given the date of APR-2015 but that pic showed the shroud behind Big Ben that clearly dated the pic in winter of 2013/2014. No further response when this was pointed out.
So, as with all of our efforts to date the Q pics, and the proxies, we must corroborate rather than rely on a single attribution. Early in our digs we relied on date taken info on its face value. Less so now.
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0cc3e2 No.17425921
>>17425906
Typo correction, the date taken was pubished with the pic at the alamy website, couple years ago, and it was 2-MAR-2014. In fact the banner that appeared in the infographic is the very same banner that the publisher used; the url link was added and the text, "Date Taken: 2 March 2014" was copy-pasted directly.
The current screecap is fine; it does not match the previous info published.
So to corroborate, consider the date of the fatal accident and the documentation in public records regarding the news reports and the coroner's report. The content of the pic pre-dates the accident.
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0cc3e2 No.17425965
>>17425921
>Amazing how much better it works to actually post the screencap.
In what way is it amazing, fren? Was that a hostile dig at the infographic provided two years ago?
The published attributed date was 2-MAR-2014 and now it is 1-MAR-2014. Screencap or not, the accuracy of the attribution published is now up in the air given the banner on Victoria Embanment.
The motorbike accident occured on morning of 5-MAR-2014 according to news reports and public coroner's report. This documentation may also be in error but it as it stands this is corroboration that the stock photo pre-dated the scene after the accident on 5-MAR-2014.
The stock photo may have been take more than a few days before the accident. To firm up the date taken will you dig for more evidence, please, and possibly confirm or shed light on the potential link between the banner and the sign/s on Northumberland. Because, fren, that would be amazing, truly. And the dig would benefit very well.
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0cc3e2 No.17425975
>>17425776
Old infographic.
Reposting because pic lost in past bread.
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0cc3e2 No.17426063
>>17422319
Scrutinizing the stock photo and CH2, well, they are such close matches in every marker with the exception of those two signs.
The 1st Aid sign at bottom of the footbridgte stairs looks like could be paired in kind with the sign on the post by the bikes. Can't confirm both are the same type of sign, yet.
Of all the images I've seen between November 2013 and March 2014, can't say I've noticed the banner nor other 1st Aid signs on posts in the vicinity. But you would expect to find something, right?
So many cameras on the ground during NYE. And it is a snap-happy part of London. So encouragement, frens, the truth is out there.
Kek.
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3da09c No.17426155
>>17425965
>In what way is it amazing, fren?
If fren would be so kind as to look at the proceeding post >>16734442 I had posted the date and location but failed to include the actual image until >>16734100
The "amazing" bit was a quip regarding my own retardation in failing to include the image of the post
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3da09c No.17426175
Getting to new bread time
I want to be more detailed since this bread started off with so little as to where the digs are, but I seem a bit stuck. Other things (besides the grids going up for light charting like WW X-mas Grille on the Millbank tower)
For Next Bread
Baker summary
UK #47 began with an intense effort to identify the purple-lit building visible in images from Q drops known as NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423. Several candidates where brought under scrutiny by anons and over the course of several days the images matched up to the Riverbank Plaza hotel, 18 Albert Embankment. The digs continued to try and identify when the Q Embankment pics and the LisaMI6 video were taken.
Winter of 2013/2014 is looking better and better based on details that have emerged thus far:
1) The paddle steamer turned floating pub TATTERSHALL CASTLE. The vessel had an overall dark blue hull and the funnel had a white top, a red band, and then a dark blue lower up until January of 2015. A refit conducted had her away from the Victoria Embankment until April of 2015 and during that time her hull was painted an overall grey with the funnel having a light blue top, two yellow bands, and a red lower.
The images in NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 show the funnel in the older white-topped scheme so a Not After bookend of January 2015 appeared.
2) Hoarding surrounding a specific tower on the Palace of Westminster is captured in several images for the timeframe, and caught from several angles in the BBC New Years Eve footage.
3) Two cranes, their red boom end lights visible through the London Eye, also appear in NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423. Looking through images, tourist videos, and BBC aerial footage of the New Years Eve celebration it was concluded this was construction on the Urbanest, 203 Westminster Bridge Road, former site of York House. Urbanest opened as DLD College in September of 2015.
4) More cranes have also been noticed. Parliament Hill Apartments and the tower crane emplaced for that construction has featured as night images show the white floodlight to mark that tower cranes position.
5) St Thomas' Hospital East Wing project, emplacement of a tower crane to revamp the 13 storey structure is evident is several images posted. Project completed by 2015
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3da09c No.17426276
>>17426175 (me)
Read it again to myself, am not happy with it. #4 could be better and some things are missing.
Could use some help Anons, and we are running out of bread
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5caca4 No.17426430
>>17426155
>The "amazing" bit was a quip regarding my own retardation<
That’s how I recall context of anon’s comment.
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5caca4 No.17426457
>>17425815
>Anons, please mark on LisaMI6 the approx location of the where the banner was situated on NYE.
Looks like 3 riverside Embankment lamp posts, or 3 festooned strands of lights SOUTH of the Air Memorial.
Or for new eyes, between the RAF Air Memorial and Parliament.
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0cc3e2 No.17426525
>>17426155
Misunderstood Rundown. Please accept my sincere apology, fren.
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0cc3e2 No.17426531
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>17426457
Tanks Anon.
>>17421541 >>17421996 >>17421503
Found a DEC-2012 vid with gud night views of the junction at Victoria Embankment and Bridge Street, foot of Big Ben.
Useful as a reference because the general landmarks and lighting pattern appears to be unchanged between the two winter seasons. there are mobile light sources that include vehicle headlamps oncoming as well as hedlamps shone onto other vehicles, such as a bus, and onto the walls of Westminster Palace. Can't be certain at this point, however, this vid seems to strongly suggest the blurry bright sources of light in LisaMI6 were some combination of the better focussed light sources captured in this 2012 recording. Fortunately it was taken in December when the tree coverage was more like that in LisaMI6.
https://youtu.be/4aEDxTZGvR8
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5caca4 No.17426550
>>17425815
With the understanding that there is a gap in the riverside festooned lighting between the lamps, the NYE BANNER is just beyond the 3rd run of lights on the NORTH side of the ‘T’ intersection of Victoria and Richmond Terrace.
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5caca4 No.17426571
>>17426550
>gap in the riverside festooned lighting between the lamps
CORRECTION: gap in the riverside lighting between the lamps on each side of the RAF Air Memorial.
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0cc3e2 No.17426572
>>17426175
Baker, feel free to edit for brevity.
Examined a photo taken of the Albert Embankment on 22-DEC-2013 and then compared cranes in the skyline with lights and cranes found in other open sources. The cranes found include two behind the London Eye at the York House worksite (now Urbanest), one at St Thomas Hospital, one at Parliament House Apartments, and two more behind the Corniche worksite next to 18 Albert Embankment (Riverbank Hotel, aka "the Purple Building"). In addition, two tall cranes were noted behind the the Corniche worksite at the Tinworth worksite. All of these may have been within the camera frames of the various Embankment pics that Q dropped. ROT1 has been of particular interest in this regard. This aspect of the dig remains open as Anons seek to establish dates on which the Q pics captured a particular pattern of crane lights. At this time, the appearance of two red lights on cranes behind the London Eye, at the York House worksite, appears to date ROT1 as AFTER early DECEMBER 2013.
Anons have found that the attributed dates found with stock photos may not be as reliable as previously assumed. Corroboration of dates might be achieved through comparison with proxies for the Q pics based on the content rather than attributed dates. The dates that open source pics have been posted, published, and described in titles are all part of the details considered in addition to the details within the camera frames.
If it would help, in future will try to keep notes as we dig and then post the notes for your use in briefer form.
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5caca4 No.17426576
>>17425815
Just to verify, went back to the NYE aerial pic of the banner. It is 7 light strands from Parliament and 3 lights strands from the RAF memorial - if you might like to count 7 back from Parliament because, in LISA, the first light strand is kind of hidden behind the RAF memorial. So it may be easier to visualize the banner’s location that way.
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0cc3e2 No.17426602
>>17426572
Moar notes. Again please edit for brevity.
Anon found a stock photo which showed stars in the night sky along the same lines as what was revealed in Q's LONDON 2847 pic. This open source pic provides confirmation that constellations can be photographed even in the bright lit night sky above high rise buildings.
Anons examined the shadows in the Chadwick pic of 22-DEC-2013 that captured the TATT in foreground and the cranes over Albert Embankment in the background. Based on sun calculations, the Chadwick pic was taken around 1:30PM; and the tide was still coming in and which suggests the time of day was about 3 hours before high tide on that date, which fits with the suncalc anaysis. This provides context for the week during which the current dig has placed the EMB pics - the week of Christmas 2013.
The gathering of pics for Millbank light patterns has now progressed to comparisons of various open sources, some with assigned dates, and the set of Q's EMB pics. A grid was prepared and is still in development. More pics needed.
Anons spotted a banner over Victoria Embankment on which there appeared a 1st Aid sign that appears to match the 1st Aid sign captured in a stock photo with an attributed date of 1-MAR-2014. In that photo and in a vid dated pre-23-MAR-2014 include a second temporary sign, this one facing away from the camera but with same shape and orientation as the 1st AID sign on the lamp post by the Cabman's shelter at the bottom of the footbridge stairs in the CH pics. These three signs may have been first put up in preparation for the NYE firework display on Victoria Embankment. The dig continues with the goal of testing the notion that these signs may be connected and may provide a new marker and possible bookend.
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0cc3e2 No.17426611
>>17426576
Please mark these GE images to indicate approx position of one or more banners.
Cheers.
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0cc3e2 No.17426630
>>17426175 >>17426572 >>17426602
Moar notes.
The 24-NOV-2013-T vid, and the screencap of the corner at Whitcomb and Coventry streets, provides a very close Q match at the ticket kiosk.
That means if we find a mismatch for the kiosk posters at a later date then, we may have a new bookend. But first thing is to identify the posters and match-up dates for the running of the films or events to see if we can firm lup the 24-NOV stake in the ground. Corroboration.
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0cc3e2 No.17426653
>>17422058 >>17416672
Howzabout this? Strung from the corner of Whitehall Garden (Horse Guards)?
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0cc3e2 No.17426686
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5caca4 No.17427054
>>17426653
Not Horse Guards.
See for reference >>17405925
Yes, strung from corner of WH Gdns across, just N of the Battle of Britain Memorial.
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3da09c No.17428422
Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>16695651, >>16695655, >>16696348, >>16696361, >>16696367, >>16696371, >>16696377 The DUMONT
>>16695851, >>16696278, >>16696407, >>16720242 Camelford House, 87-90 Albert Embankment
>>16696244, >>16696248 Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel 18 Albert Embankment, London SE1 7TJ, 1-AUG-2012-P vid of the two bridges over Thames, camera vantage The Eye (video)
>>16696414, >>16696415 Vauxhall SV images for 2012, 2013, 2019. Reference
>>16696455 Peninsula Heights Apartments, 93 Albert Embankment. The cranes in 22-DEC-2013-T are lit up on top
>>16696534 GE-07-2013-T (3D buildings overlayed)
>>16696573 Additional candidates for pink/ purple lit building?
>>16696609 Should not lose sight of the fact that most of the candidates for the pink/purple coloured building also reinforce the pre-2015-2016 conclusion UK Anons are working with for dating the Q pics
>>16696831, >>16696840 New Years Eve 31-DEC-2013-T videos for elevated night time views of the Embankments
>>16696954 NYE 31-DEC-2013-T via BBC One
>>16697024, >>16697063 Stock photos, various years
>>16704118, >>16704257, >>16720353 Riverbank Plaza Hotel, 18 Albert Embankment London SE1 7SP with obvious exterior lighting
>>16704262 2011, Crowne Plaza and Riverbank Plaza hotels
>>16747440, >>16747575 24London open sauce photo (nicknamed "Purple Sister" re LisaMI6) vid mark 1 minute https://youtu.be/eDzV7cMRvHM?t=63 Purple building lit, two crans at Vauxhall, shroud at Westminster tower
>>16747587 Moar points of interest in comparison between open sauce pics and LisaMI6
>>16747671 Pic taken from Millbank Tower: Note that the gap in the row of waterfront buldings had not yet appeared at the time of this pic. Also the Crowne Plaza had not yet undergone rennovations. And 18 Albert Embankment, the building with the 3-sided waterfront, had not been rennovated
>>16747726, >>16747742, >>16747754, >>16747766 Various SV images along the Millbank (A3212) provide a view of the other side of the river which is obstructed by treecover
>>16747778, >>16747901 Good view of the area of interest on Albert embankment, pre-demolition
>>16748013, >>16748035, >>16748204, >>16748313 Getty stock photo, 25-DEC-2013-T. Close match with LisaMI6 and with 24London
>>16753143, >>16753358, >>16753413, >>16753504, >>16764764, >>16766154 Comparison pics, future site of Corniche building Google Earth GE-MAR-2012 Imagery Date: 8/2/2011 & GE-JUL-2013 Imagery Date: 18-JUL-2013 View Location: 51°29'27.88" N 0°07'18.01" W
>>16747817, >>16753504, >>16755363 Comparison: Google Earth JUL-2013 Streetview AUG-2013, checking for hoarding installations
>>16753687, >>16753747, >>16753808 SV-JUL-2014 The Corniche gap
>>16754392, >>16754461, >>16754678, >>16754723, >>16754735, >>16765628, >>16767324 18 Albert Embankment (Park Plaza London Riverbank Hotel) glass facade and coloured floodlighting
>>16755875 Crowne Plaza hotel to open on Albert Embankment, 27 September 2013 https://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7106
>>16755895, >>16755898, >>16755927, >>16755937, >>16755950 Albert Embankment: rooftop club overlooking Parliament approved 7 August 2016
>>16791771, >>16776457, >>16792252 The Science is Settled! pink/purple buikding is the Riverbank Plaza hotel, 18 Albert Embankment
>>16931199, >>16931282, >>16931284, >>16931580, >>16940460 Looking for the angle, St George peeking out from behind Millbank
>>16937114 From Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P views from LE pod showing hoarding at Westminster, Millbank lighting
>>16941230 More views of hoarding at Westminster in 2013
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3da09c No.17428424
Updated Other References Bun
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732209, >>16732538, >>16733324, >>16734100 Reference pic to show the distance from Hungerford Bridge to TATTERSHALL CASTLE 25-OCT-2014-T
>>16734821 24-OCT-2015-T Post-Refit TATTERSHALL CASTLE, RAF Memorial is dark
>>16747168 8-NOV-2016-T Link to 21 second vid showing darkened RAF Memorial https://www.bitchute.com/video/NgOsVFAEw9Pd/
>>16747275 OCT-2011, Reference, view from footbridge similair to Q pics, especially LisaMi6. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mt7jBASQ5LvO/
>>16747303 Vid, comparison, LisaMI6 with two open sauces. VID: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bzft57cyoYTI/
>>16754564 Picadilly Circus Snowglobe: Chadwick, 22-DEC-2013 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3786715
>>16756137 December 2013, the Weather closes in
>>16756217 View from the Pentagon, NIOC
>>16754281, >>16754319, >>16767276 NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847 and NSA_Traf_CAM_ROT1 - 1423 with modified versions to bring out the treecover which obscures the view of Albert Embankment
>>16772437, >>16772512, >>16772598 London Weather to consider
>>16772531, >>16772538, >>16800117 14-DEC-2013-P? "Roberts London" Southbank Christmas Markets London Christmas Gift Shopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRA9SCOi3y0
>>16772611, >>16772641, >>16773003, >>16781408, >>16794292, >>16794337, >>16794433 23-NOV-2013-P Christmas in London 2013 https://youtu.be/3ESHoO1cpl8 (https://ok.ru/video/3634365838)
>>16780506 London Plane trees
>>16781253, >>16781263, >>16781287, >>16781300 Victoria Embankment, New Years Eve crowds with Big Ben, evening, DEC-2013
>>16787440, >>16787526, >>16791909 Lest we forget, another marker/mystery: The flag pole near The Eye
>>16787620, >>16936038 06-DEC-2013-P Night vid The Eye, Red Bull Music Academy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRPNlRzCuw Crack Magazine 20 Sep 2012 mentions Red Bull Academy taking over London Eye for each pod as a club
>>16791176, 16791421 Moon over Thames AUG 2015 Moon seen through The Eye https://youtu.be/kl2h-UVx5TI
>>16791636 Moon over Thames, 16-DEC-2014, London UK. (timelapsed) https://youtu.be/t1ufG8oAPzI
>>16792661 Reference vidcaps, JUL-2014-P Series of vidcaps confirm this recording made AFTER time interval for EMB pics and BEFORE winter of 2015/2016 Views of Southbank from two different angles
>>16935441, >>16937097, >>16937121, >>16937136, >>16937185 NYE Timelapse 2013/2014 Tim Browne 10-APR-2014-P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OjQHt2UUqg
>>16937260, >>16937285 06-JAN-2013-P Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night
>>16937638, >>16937673, >>17425590 24-NOV-2013-T Includes views of the Red Bus scene background, Piccadilly Circus, London Eye, and Big Ben; movie posters on kiosk to identify https://youtu.be/7YErQn6Dgy8
>>16931256, >>16931338 Wheelie trash bins may help narrow the dates
>>16937260, >>16937285 Reverse view looking toward Q camera vantage from the LE at night. 06-JAN-2013 from https://youtu.be/Dc3T2O4vMj0
>>16941276 More Street Views from August 2013
>>16941308 SV-MAY-2014 St Thomas worksite and crane
>>16941325, >>16941331 SV-MAY-2014 St Thomas relative to The Eye and to Urbanest
>>17386120, >>17388151 Bohao Zhao, Big Ben from Hungerford Bridge Photo - Jan 2014 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMRMGDnvN6T1_DUxC4z6AZSP4bDfFsTunI_o28=w600-h321-p-k-no
>>17386121, >>17388175, >>17388184 Christine Matthews Saturday 18JAN-2014 https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3820491
>>17386125 Bohao Zhao London Eye from Hungerford Bridge January 2014
>>17386134 Bohao Zhao Leicester Square, Photo - Jan 2014 [Note overhead Christmas lighting and also ticket kiosk poster pattern] (big text lik)
>>17386137 Bohao Zhao Coventry Street, Photo - Jan 2014 [taken same night as other DEC-2013 pics by same photographer]
>>17386139, >>17388597 Jane Russell / Alamy Stock Photo - Date taken:30 December 2013
>>17386140, >>17388620 Chris Dorney / Alamy Stock Photo Date taken:23 November 2013; NOV 25 2013: A view of the Christmas Market on the South Bank in London on the 25th November 2013. https://www.alamy.com/london-uk-nov-25th-2013-a-view-of-the-christmas-market-on-the-south-image62963754.html
>>17416672, >>17417004, >>17422058, >>17422187, >>17422326, >>17425679, >>17426576 Anons spotted a banner over Victoria Embankment on which there appeared a 1st Aid sign that appears to match the 1st Aid sign on the lamp post by the Cabman's shelter at the bottom of the footbridge stairs in the CH pics
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3da09c No.17428468
Fresh Bread
>>17428439
>>17428439
Q Research UK #48: Return to Northumberland Edition
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3da09c No.17428473
ooops', got ahead of myself
Final
Notables are NOT endorsements
#47
>>16720935, >>16721106 Anons notices the constellations visible despite city lights in 2018 Alamy stock pic
>>16730686, >>16730914, >>16731429 Tide tables at London Bridge for 2013
>>16732365 Man acquitted re Air India bombing has been shot in Canada
>>16732851 From General Research: World Health Organization Officially States That There Are More Than Two Biological Genders
>>16749548 Request for Anons: Please show the following video (Winter Wonderland) to a normie. The purpose is to test this video for ease of comprehension
>>16770726, >>16770746 Devin Nunes announced on podcast Truth Social is open in the UK
>>16827041 From General Research: W.H.O. Appoints Veteran Communist Party of Britain Member to Advisory Panel
>>16938686 From General Research: Doomed UK Trans Kids Clinic Left ‘Thousands of Damaged Children’ In Its Wake
>>16942334 Updated Urbanest Bun | Salamanca Worksite, later Parliament Apartments Bun
>>17388644 Updated Counting Cranes Bun
>>17388650 Updated Corinthia Hotel & Yellow Bike Bun | Millbank Bun
>>17405151, >>17405202, >>17405210, >>17405256, >>17405281 WSJ in 2018: What Are the FBI and CIA Hiding? | Anon pinpointing location of Papa D pic
>>17428422 Updated Building Scrutiny Bun
>>17428424 Updated Other References Bun
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3da09c No.17428481
As always, fill this one first please
Fresh Bread
>>17428439
>>17428439
Q Research UK #48: Return to Northumberland Edition
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5caca4 No.17430091
>>17426611
Found a gud vidcap from a Ytube vid on the Battle of Britain Memorial that shows at least one possible pole, mebbe two, from which the banner might be hung.
Habs made a simulation of, where I think the banner might’ve been hung using a vidcap.
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3da09c No.17430200
>>17430091
Please repost on new bread
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5caca4 No.17430240
>>17425965
>To firm up the date taken will you dig for more evidence, please, and possibly confirm or shed light on the potential link between the banner and the sign/s on Northumberland.
Well, see something, say something. May have spotted another temporary sign tacked to a tree nearby the banner, in the trash removal pic upbread.
Was thinking, they may have had another first-aid station nearby the banner. Perhaps at that same corner of Whitehall Gardens. And restrooms nearby the Monument as well? Lots of people drinking.
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5caca4 No.17430262
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5caca4 No.17430279
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