360b0e No.17587
If it's a touring wagon, shooting brake, underrated van, an okay auto-only transmission, sports truck or a 4-door car that's normally worshiped in the 2-door form, etc, post it here.
These cars deserve love too!
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360b0e No.17588
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360b0e No.17589
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360b0e No.17590
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360b0e No.17591
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360b0e No.17593
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360b0e No.17594
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26dce0 No.17595
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>>17593
>>17594
>Toyota vans
Patrician.
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20f3b6 No.17603
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360b0e No.17604
Toyota Caldina GT-FOUR
Automatic only, known for being the last car to bear the GT-FOUR name. You can also find it in Gran Turismo.
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360b0e No.17630
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0736b8 No.17631
>>17595
>>17630
https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1537255721.htm/
Imma buy one for real as a first car, but it'll be a Renault 5. Same shit, less US rules.
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65c44e No.17645
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>>17631
Patrician taste.
The Renault 5 was so ahead of its time, yet Americans felt the need to make it contemporary when they brought it overseas. Not to mention the name, whew lad…
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7202fc No.17646
>>17645
I can't remember if another anon brought it up in a different thread, but for whatever reason, Americans never truly got the idea of the small car. Or small vehicle in general. Trucks, vans (though the Hijet did sell in some quantity), you name it, it has to be fuckhuge and have an engine that would make zero sense in any other economy. And when they seemed to get it, they viewed the cars as "temporary", in between their usual gas-hogging luxobarge.
In the beginning, landyachts made sense. The country was big, the roads were large and deserted, and you needed to travel far distances in comfort. Not to mention you could fill up several jerry cans worth of fuel for pennies on the dollar. Then the oil crisis hit, and carbuyers panicked. And though a few looked to Europe or Japan (some already did; the Beetle was immensely popular in the 60s), most continued to remain loyal to the Big Three (then Big Four) throughout the malaise era. And the "small" cars they produced were all fucking jokes.
From the Pacer and Gremlin to Chrysler's K-Cars; they all fucking sucked. Ford took Europe's Fiesta after the catastrophic failure of the Pinto and bolted on a comically sized federal bumper. Chevrolet had the woeful Chevette which the UK's Vauxhall was able to turn into a semi-decent runabout. Dodge just slapped the pentastar onto a Mitsubishi and didn't even try until the Omni.
And when they got the Renault 5, that was about how many years its chances of survival in the US market had dropped to zero from a much higher number. Though federalization played its part, the car needed to launch around the same time as it did in Europe; 1972 or thereabouts. By 1976 Americans were buying sedans and muscle cars again, just with castrated engines.
In the late 1980s, the smallest Ford you could buy was the Festiva. Not even 10 years later it had become the Escort, a car that would be considered midsize from a European perspective. They never got the Ka, nor any Fiesta outside of the Mk1. They did get the Focus, though they skipped the Mk2 model entirely, and though the Mondeo conquered Europe, the Contour flopped hard. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the smallest car you could've bought new in the US was at one time a Daewoo.
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0736b8 No.17647
>>17646
Funny how they get Fiat 500 and Smarts now. The latter sells awefully (no wonder why) but the 500 sells ok for what it is. But now, the Fiesta has been taken away, so only some Hyundai and Kia still sell small cars (or maybe Mitsubishi? Is the Mirage still a thing?). It's so anchored in their culture that even Doug shits on them without question.
Maybe PSA will make a comeback in the US. I'd love to see a 108 in the USA or a 2008. I'm sure the average US citizen won't buy them because "mUh 1.1 tRilLiOn AuTo DeBt". One day the US will realise that not everyone can live over their paychecks and this will be a new dawn for small cars there.
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f6fba7 No.17655
>>17647
Please don't cite that faggot YouTuber. It's bad enough that every other automotive website takes his dysfunctional opinions as fact.
To stay on topic, the demographic small cars were intended for have moved on to ridesharing and public transportation. Most cities that compact cars thrived in now pass regulations to disincentivise car ownership. Because of the "arms race" phenomenon with increasing SUV market share, it's borderline suicidal to drive anything smaller than a crossover in the United States.
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c3ddde No.17656
>>17655
It was only to show how low the USA got regarding small cars.
>the demographic small cars were intended for have moved on to ridesharing and public transportation
blatant lie.
>Most cities that compact cars thrived in now pass regulations to disincentivise car ownership
<big cities means lots of people
<lots of people means potentially lots of cars
<lots of cars means traffic hell and no available parking spaces
>people are not having cars in big cities anymore!
I can't help you if you can't comprehend how inadapted individual cars are in large cities.
It's not about compact cars: see New York. It's about crowded space. And you know what? Crowded spaces means that buying a smaller car to park faster. Your cause/consequence rethoric is broken here. It's not because a city have smaller cars that they wants cars out: it's because there's too many cars.
<Because of the "arms race" phenomenon with increasing SUV market share, it's borderline suicidal to drive anything smaller than a crossover in the United States.
You're going completely away from the rest of your paragraph but you're right: big cars kill smaller cars. Litterally. Hopefully this doesn't happen too much in Europe (it does, but buyers would rather buy cars looking like a SUV (crossovers) than real SUVs.).
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119da7 No.17660
>>17656
Don't worry, SUVs won't become a mainstream thing in Europe for a good while. They are too big for some cities, parking space is meant for mid-sized sedan/wagon, not something so wide you can't open doors without denting anything, and if the buyer is not going to haul around trailers or crap like that everyday, sanity wins and another wagon sale is made. Or a sedan if the buyer does not care about practicality at all.
Small cars in the US will never go away, just ecause they are pure joy to drive. That's enough to attract SOME cutomers to some super-cheap novelty brand that gets bought by Chinks 10 years later. What's the US eqivalent of Dacia? Is anyone over there even making small, cheap sedans anymore? Dacias might not be reliable, but with a car so cheap, you can buy a new one every 8-10 years.
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c3ddde No.17662
>>17660
Maybe the small Chevy Sonic? They're pretty cheap too. Or maybe the Mitsubishi Mirage.
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51723e No.17904
I honestly like 4-door muscle cars about as much as the coupes maybe more but fuck modern Chargers. RIP Commodore / Chevy SS.
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9ebaa4 No.17907
The Civic EP3. There was nothing really wrong with it, it was apparently a good driving car, and it was cheap. I very rarely see them anymore. I honestly think I'm going to get one for my wife as a first car.
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