No.1804 [View All]
What drawing tablets should I buy? Is there any difference between them?
I'm considering getting this one.
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No.12525
>>12409
I don't know how it's for the other tablets but I can explain this based on the huion 610pro v2 that I bought recently as my first tablet.
Especially if you never had a tablet you probably have no idea how they work at all like I did.
My concern was that I would be placing my pen tip blindly without a screen but it isn't like that at all. When you hover pen like 2cm above the tablet it already shows on your computer monitor where you are. It isn't hard at all to get used to moving your hand in one space and looking at other. But you need to practice the movement of placing down the pen a little from using wrist rotation to more like a vertical movement so it falls in the place you were hovering it in. And I think it's even better that I don't have screened tablet because I don't obstruct my vision with the pen and hand.
I didn't know how they work either
It doesnt work like a mouse at all, with mouse you have it in one place and by moving it you move it relatively to your current position. Tablets work by making each discernable space (depending on resolution) of it's surface be assigned to a pixel on your monitor. I can't explain it in a simpler way
I have small 1440x900 monitor that happens to be the proportioned the same as my tablet and sensitivity feels good. There is still loads of redundant sensitivity with this configuration and by calculation I could probably use 8k monitor without noticing any loss of sensitivity.
If your monitor isn't proportioned the same as your tablet you just use area of your screen of appropriate proportion that you set up in the driver option so you will leave out maybe one side of the monitor to make 16:9 into 16:10 or something like that.
So there aren't any problems you don't need screened tablet unless you need one more screen. Screened tablets will only give you problems like heating up and shit and are expensive
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No.12526
>>12525
also don't look at number of buttons while looking for tablet. I thought I would use additional buttons for shortcuts but using keyboard is just handier. These additional buttons are probably only useful if you work on a laptop so you don't have to reach over the tablet.
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No.12527
>>12526
there are little remotes you can get too which are way better like clip studio tabmate and so on.
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No.13036
I've heard good things about Simbans Picasso Tablet to draw and do stuff, at least for beginners, and it cost lower than 200€.
Is it good or could you redpill me about it?
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No.13044
>>13036
>small screen tablet
I'd rather get myself a big one without screen. Or a small one without screen.
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No.13045
>>13044
10 inches is small? But of course it cost less than 180€.
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No.13079
>Find a large wacom tablet for really cheap
>Only a few bucks short
>Have to wait before I can get some extra cash
Please God let that tablet go unbought for just two more weeks
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No.13083
>>13079
How short we talking here?
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No.13087
>>13079
Less than half price, only used for a year
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No.13088
>>13083
>>13087
Intentionally made a mistake there
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No.13110
>>1804
I have an old Wacom Bamboo MTE450, is it useless? its got a work area of something like 5.8" x 3.7" and 2540 lines per inch res, I felt it can be quite tricky to work with on the few occasions I did draw but I'm also thinking that I've been doing something horribly wrong. help appreciated
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No.13119
>>13110
No tablet is truly useless but you have to ask yourself how much drawing you plan on doing? If you're planning on trying to draw for even just a few years there is in my mind no expense too great-but at the same time in my anecdotal experience the most expensive options aren't the best anyway. Throughout the thread (that I encourage you to read) I've lauded the Intuos Large and I'll continue to do so. It's around $400 but it'll hold the majority of its value for years to come and it is in my opinion the absolute best tablet available in any price range.
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No.13120
>>13110
its not that old. like 9 years. size doesnt matter that much. if you cant draw on that, spending a newer one wont change that. you can adjust your lines in program for line correction, etc if its giving jagged lines or not curving properly. Look into those stablizer options to see if they aid you. They have lots of options for each, so you might need to mess around to get the correction you want.
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No.13122
>>13120
yeah LazyNezumiPro was a godsend for me that made lines significantly better, though it felt like the smoother you went, the shorter the "maximum" lines I could draw before I hit the edge, in retrospect I think I cranked that smoothing way too much so I'll try to depend less on it unless critically necessary, thank you for giving me hope in this lil fella.
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No.13123
>>13119
for now I don't reckon I'll draw often enough to justify getting a tablet that good, I'd almost blindly give my money to wacom for how reliable their stuff is but electronics in general cost twice as they should in my country due to VAT or whatever and coupled with relative low demand these tablets can get expensive real quick :(
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No.13194
A good reason to never buy Cintiqs, absolutely garbage LCD panels that will shit out and start dying way too early and causes highlights to almost completely blend together and shading to become way too dark and muddled, but maybe thats because of the 72% Adobe RGB. My older Asus monitor displays colors more accurately.
Does anybody know if theres a way to just swap out the LCD panel myself? Wacom wants to charge $800 to fix their shit product.
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No.13197
I'm going to buy a XP-Pen Deco01 on my birthday. Should I not?
My 3 yo Intuos died, and I need another drawing tablet asap.
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No.13198
>>13197
Huions newer models have been great for me. Fraction of price of wacom. Had tablet and switched to pen display back on black friday. Like comparing a staedtler to a rotring drafting pencil. Rotring is superior quality but staedtler is close enough for quarter the price.
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No.13213
>>13198
Should I buy a H640P? I only have money to buy a XP-Pen Deco 01 or a Huion H640P.
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No.13370
I got that Wacom large for half price! The switch from pencil & paper to digital is swiftly killing me on the inside. I know I'm going to end up using this tablet because I love drawing but the switch from pencil & paper to tablet is far more painful than I imagined
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No.13377
>>13370
You'll get used to it.
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No.13380
>>13370
I feel you. It took me months and after years and years of drawing I still use two different techniques for both (though I'm sure it's fine).
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No.13384
>>13377
I just noticed how high the breasts are; I'll forgive myself because it is something like a three year old drawing
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No.13764
Are tablets supposed to be this small? All the decently priced tablets aren't even a foot wide, wouldn't that cramp up your hand and get annoying constantly having to move around?
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No.13765
>>13764
Should have got an Intuos Large or Giano n*gga
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No.13766
>>13765
I haven't bought any tablet yet, though I eventually plan to. I'm still a beginner and wanted to see what my options were in the future.
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No.13926
Thinking about getting the Acer ConceptD 9 (or D 7) as my first 2 in 1. It would be better than my current PC for gaming and I'd finally be able to explore digital art as a medium (which means I can start adding color to my drawings).
Price once it comes out in June will be $5000, but hopefully with smaller storage options and black Friday discounts that could drop $1000 or more. I was going to get the surface book 2 before Acer announced this beast. Glad I waited until they did.
What do you guys think about the D 9?
Do you think it's worth $2000 more than the D 7 for the 9th gen i9, 2 more inches of screen space and the easel hinge?
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No.13930
>>13766
I see. I've mentioned up-thread why I feel that the idea of being a "beginner" isn't the best reasoning for skimping out on your tablet (at least I think I did lol), and also why I feel some of the more extravagant models are just that. I know it sucks but consider giving this old as balls thread (four years what the heck) a once over to see if you can find some topical info for when it comes time to make your purchase.
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No.13934
>>13926
>5000
Horry SHIT. I didn't notice it's a laptop too though.
Honestly man I can't possibly see that being worth it unless you make real-nigga money. It being attached to the computer itself is cool but it's also kind of a weakness; the computer will be "top of the line" for like two years and then it'll be shit like how every other computer out there is.
Get a $1500~ gaming/desktop-replacement laptop from Sager/Clevo and an Intous Large or even a similarly-sized Cintiq even though I don't personally care for those so much. $5,000 for something that's attached at the hip to a depreciating computer isn't a great investment proposition I don't think. Logistically it wouldn't function much different from a bog-standard Cintiq and a secondary keyboard.
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No.13999
>>13934
I agree, to a certain extent. That's why I'd only ever get it on discount (like I said, Black Friday sale plus lower storage space options could lower the price by $2000 if my math is right). I wouldn't spend more than $3000 on any laptop.
The D 7 is my backup option which is $2400 currently.
I'm justifying the extra $600 to myself because of future proofing. Unlike phones, which become obsolete after two or three generations, PC upgrades are far and few. A 5th gen intel core i5 is still passable, and we are four generations and eight years past that at this point.
I don't want a fixed desktop setup in my current situation because my job allows for enough free time where I can draw while at work and I'd like a portable option. Otherwise, I'd just get a cintiq and build my own PC for ~2000.
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No.14959
just bought a Monoprice, something doesn't feel right
>spend a day fucking around with the drivers just to make it work
>hotkey buttons don't work at all, even after remapping them
>can't draw a straight line for shit
>can't help but feel like something is just off about it
granted I'm an absolute newfag with drawing, but when I see the digital art here and I can't even draw a straight fucking line no matter how careful I am, something just doesn't feel right.
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No.14960
>>14959
I dunno, tablets are very different from drawing with a pencil, it's honestly not that comparable. The smaller surface area of the tablet contra the screen coupled with the visual disconnect made it so uncomfortable for me at first that I hardly ever used it and just kept drawing on paper. I think that's the case for a lot of people, it takes some getting used to.
There's also the possibility that the proportions of the tablet don't match the screen, and that every movement you make is stretched out in some direction in screen space. See if there's something like a "force proportions" option in the settings, that might help if that's the case.
And pay attention to how you sit when you draw with a tablet, I've noticed that I tend to hold my arm in a pretty bad position for making longer strokes, not sure why, but that could also be a contributing factor.
The button thing sounds weird though, so maybe there is something wrong.
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No.14961
>>14959
that's what you get for not buying wacom
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No.15994
I want to get a drawing tablet with a suitable screen for reading PDFs and watching movies on. A work horse machine I can also draw on. I'm on a budget of about 200 dollars. What should I be looking for?
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No.15996
>>15994
Just get an Intuos and second monitor for your current pc setup fgt
>and a job tbh, anything you can get for $200 you don't really want if your improvement/career is on the line; if you just work part time for a month you could afford a great battlestation, NEET boi
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No.15997
>>15996
I have a gaymin PC. It's not that I couldn't afford a 1000 buckaroos for a high end tablet, it's that I don't want it. I want something I can throw on the table or in a bag and use on the go or in bed. My career isn't on the line, I'm a complete novice at drawing and thought I could potentially use it for sketching and decided to ask about it.
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No.16001
>>15997
IIRC an iPad + Apple Pencil or the outrageous Wacom tablet PCs are really the only option for drawing that I'm aware of. I'd tried a $1000 Microsoft Surface Pro something-something three years ago or so and the stylus was choppy and miserable-and I can't imagine the lesser devices being superior in that regard (at least it had Windows though-that was its only redeeming quality). AFAIK if that's what you really want than a $300~ iPad is pretty much the only way to fly-but you can't really have "files" like .pdfs on them per se either unfortunately (unless I'm missing something, I haven't put much effort into learning how this thing works tbh). iOS is a fucking laughingstock of a parody of an operating system
>"on the go"
How often are you on the go, will you actually use it in that context, and is it worth gimping all of the digital content creation you do to an extent, given the software limitations? This is an important question to ask yourself and to answer honestly, I didn't and I regret it. If I'm drawing, I'm home 99% of the time and I'm more attentive and comfortable at a desk.
>in bed
Like most people you may be hard pressed to get anything done in bed besides coom and sleep because that's what our bodies have conditioned us to associate with the bed. You could be different but don't assume that the product will alter any pre-existing behaviors, at least not for long.
I'm not trying to be a downer and I could certainly be wrong, but I wish someone gave me a little push back when I bought my iPad because it's ended up a media streaming device more than anything.
tl;dr
Whatever the current cheapest iPad that supports the Apple Pencil is your only viable option that I'm aware of, but if you're really just a complete novice you're way better off getting a cheap .pdf reader/media player and using cheap physical media for your actual drawing instead (you can't look at .pdfs or watch videos and draw at the same time on the same screen, after all).
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No.16070
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No.16195
>>16001
>iOS is a fucking laughingstock of a parody of an operating system
You got that right.
>you can't really have "files" like .pdfs on them
You need an app called Documents by a company called Readdle for that. It comes with its own browser for downloading stuff off the internet, and opens pdfs, zips, rars, and most media formats.
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No.16196
>Wanted to get into digital drawing and art while locked-down
>Come to this thread
>Finally decide on Wacom Intuos
>Already used most funds on preparation in early February
>The vanilla Intuos seems alright, but the price was still a little too much for being gimped and small
>Go on to ebay for those sweet deals
>Just my luck! I find a $110 Pro version with the pen in relatively good condition and with a reputable seller
>Quickly smash that "buy now" button before some other drawfag tries to snag it
>Package takes awhile to ship, but I can wait
>Get a "You're package has been delivered" in my email
>Check outside, but no package
>Check the tracking website
>Horrified when I find out the package was sent to freakin' Texas of all place, which is not even close to my place
>Made doubly sure that I entered all the information correctly, and yes eBay shows all the correct information. The seller fucked up big time.
>This happens during a shitty few days in my personal life, and not just because of the virus
>Pissed because I don't wan to make an account just to message the seller, but I bite the bullet
>I've had it with this crap, and society acting like morons and doing stupid stuff
>Tell them, as politely as a pissed off, despondent buyer can that they fucked-up
>Tell them I don't want a refund, I want the tablet, because other similarly priced Pro Medium's are in crappy condition or missing the pen and other necessary parts
>On eBay, decent Used Pro Medium's are 200+, New's are $300+. If I get a refund, I can only buy a non-pro Intuos, probably okay for a beginner, but I'm sick of bad shit happening and I just want something nice to happen for once
>Tell them I demand they fix the problem and financially help the wrong receiver to send the pack via one- or two-day shipping
>A day later, they send an apology, a promise that they are working quickly to solve the issue, and provide me with a tracking number for the supposed correcting shipment
>Said to myself, "Wow! they worked quickly to get this fixed."
>Respond apologizing for seeming tense and promising positive feedback for working so quickly to fix the problem
>Wait a few days, check the tracking page from time to time. Find it peculiar that the package hasn't been shipped despite a label being created.
>It's been a freakin' week and a day and the shipment still hasn't gotten past the "Label" stage, which I have just learned today means the seller simply bought a shipping label online and hasn't done much since
>In fact the seller could just do jack shit and let the label expire while waiting out for my ability to get a refund to expire
>"99+%" positive reputation my ass
>Now I have really had it
tl;dr I found a sweet deal for a nice, used Intuos Pro Medium for $110, but the seller's bullshit has prevented it from arriving, twice.
I JUST WANT MY FREAKING TABLET DURING THIS FUCKING BAD TIME! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!
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No.16200
>>16196
That's the risk you take when buying used stuff on ebay. I got burned twice. Now I just slowly save up money over longer time and get everything new. You overpay, but at least odds of fuckups are much lower and there is more of a recourse when it comes to errors or faulty equipment.
Worst case scenario, you can always contact Paypal or your credit card company/bank see if they will at least reimburse the money. There are chances of ebay doing something if you explain everything.
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No.16201
Seeing as this thread is still getting replies I just want everybody to know that I continue to swear by the Intuos Large models 3 and up for the time being. (>>7966 , >>7994 , >>9086 , >>9105 , >>9108 - and many others) and also that I can't stop farting.
That aside, tomorrow begins at least two weeks with no work for me, and if I can't get any drawing done throughout this quarantine shit I really should just give up because I'm apparently too big of a pussy to draw. Wish me luck
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No.16216
>>16201
Good luck. It took me two or three weeks into the confinement to start drawing regularly again (instead of doodling for 5 minutes) but I'm back into the swing of things now so don't feel too bad if you take a few days of rest.
Or do and push through, I don't know.
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No.16222
I have been using a Gaomon for three months now and I'm fairly satisfied. It has a pretty good size and feel to it. I thought charging the pen would be a chore but the battery lasts 3 weeks on average so I don't mind.
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No.16226
>>16222
>Gaomon
Can you digivolve it?
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No.16478
>bought a matte screen protector for my ipad
>it makes hideous squeaking sounds whenever i draw
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No.16479
>>16478
Does the Apple Pencil actually scratch the screen? I It seems pretty soft Personally I only use it to look at Sketchfab models anyway though, drawing on it is awkward and shitty imho
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No.16480
>>16479
Not the pencil itself, but if the right dust particle gets under the pencil it’s possible. I was mainly interested in all the hype I saw about how matte protectors are so much nicer to draw on. The extra grip is supposed to improve linework and “feel better”, but I’m not seeing it. But then again, I never had any problems with the glass feeling slippery like I see so many complaining about.
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No.16535
>>1804
Firstly: Make sure it's big enough for you to use your elbow for drawing.
at least eleven inches.
Secondly: Don't buy overpriced Wacom. Buy anything else. Wacom no longer has the monopoly. Also their customer support is utter garbage. When I contacted them, the response emails didn't even have real names. They just ended the email with generic western names like "Joe" or "James".
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No.16536
>>1804
Firstly: Make sure it's big enough for you to use your elbow for drawing.
at least eleven inches.
Secondly: Don't buy overpriced Wacom. Buy anything else. Wacom no longer has the monopoly. Also their customer support is utter garbage. When I contacted them, the response emails didn't even have real names. They just ended the email with generic western names like "Joe" or "James".
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