/htg/ - Harlot Trainer General

Cont. from the last thread.

>>25330

>software is a service!

Not really, specially in this case where you can use with or without paying, and only an stupid idiot would pay for it. As I said, this is more akin to socialism, faggot.

>>25331

>Piracy is theft

kek. I'm going to pirate my neighbors car, then, I will just make an exact copy and everyone wins.

>>25333

Seems pointless. I mean, it would be a nice detail, but think about everything it involves, you'll also have to render a backside or every clothing item, and that on itself sounds like a lot of fucking job. If you're up to it, go ahead, but you're taking long enough, faggot, you could release it later as an update or something, but for now, just focus on what you have and leave details for later.

my penis has never waited for something for so long

well i mean sex but i meant realistically

>>25353

Just to agree with this turd. Piracy isn't theft, you're not stealing a shit. If you don't download the game then you won't even buy it. Both ways the developer earns a shit.

>>25361

Well, that was lack of planning ahead. If I were to make different clothing styles or a wardrobe, I'd do it like the teaching a feeling guy does, just take a naked model, draw over it and use that to overlap it with the naked model whenever someone wants to change the model clothe, although each CG should be drawn with the variation of clothes, and that sucks.

I might be talking out of my ass, since I've never done that, but sounds like common sense to me if you plan to have multiple clothing, I'm also pretty sure that's how those old "undress the girl" flash games worked too.

>I actually realized a bit later that I can't actually do that style anymore

Well, that's more than evident. Congrats, you're a better artist now. As I said, focus on what you have already. You can update the models later like the 4 Elements Trainer did,

>For example putting on something lewd without any context

Does your game have some kind of "corruption" system? Like, if you do more lewd actions to Helen she could be more open to wear lewder stuff in from of you, and you could also get it for her if you want. If you want Helen to be the active part, she can surprise you with lewder outfit brought by yourself, just like Something Unlimited do with Harley Quinn.

>>25363

Sounds good to me. Just rework the sprites AFTER you're done with this build, since you say you can't draw in this style anymore, there's no use. My only problem is that your games seems to rely in RNG too much, or am I wrong?

>>25365

Just pointing it out, evil piece of shit. But I guess one of the best parts for me in these kind of games is grinding for hours to get all the content. You better add an skip button.

God speed, faggot. Just finish the damn thing.

so was there actually ever any update since july last year or is tropic just still milking those monthly 23$ and doing nothing?

>>25364

>>25362

Im confused, why are you talking to tropic about game mechanics etc. ?

youre dont really think that he will deliver, right?

>>25374

well he pretends to work on it, screanshot here and there, but not a build in over a year and what has been realeased then, wasnt really anything, but a concept. Like the first demo of an akabur game, just an idea what it might be. Only akabur has made games in the past.

Best thread 2: Electric tropicoo

>>25365

>someone missing an entire crucial sequence of events just because they weren't lucky enough

Isn't that just what AAA calls "Replay value"?

>>25376

*please ignore the numerous spelling errors.

>>25379

so where is it?

>>25379

I sure would have liked to see that when I was still a patron, but you do you fam.

>>25381

Also I'm in favor of rendered backsides.

>>25379

Then release it

>>25377

kek

>>25390

The only reason he hasn't released anything is that he hasn't done anything and he can't bothered to explain all the time he wasted on literally jack shit.

>>25432

this, there is no "basement build" its just another lie. and lets be serious here, tropics last promice, wasnt to release his game, nobody would have believed that by now. His last promice was to quit and give us (more so his patreons) the images and "code". But he lied about that too. Which for me signals a new level of beeing a shit for tropic. I never thought someone could be this much of a transparent lyar and the best part, whenever another of his promices falls flat, he doesnt apologize or rationalize, he doesnt even taunt those poor losers on his patreon, no hes just silent untill the next lie. But yeah lets continue this sharade and pretend that tropic is making an adult game, sure.

>>25441

>implying Tropic isn't about to roll out a game the size of Skyrim.

Stop baiting, frendo.

>>25546

who did you think it was?

>>25547

I never say a pic with Dash in it. I thought it was some faceless person.

>>25543

No thanks. It's going to be nothing.

>>25543

No thanks. It's going to be nothing.>>25543

>>25543

So release this weekend?

if you don't upload just know that I will end up killing one of your favorite animal

>>25333

>You think it's worth it to render a backside model for Helen?

Will it delay a release? then no. If not, then go ahead and turn that shit around and back that ass up.

>>25543

We are waiting, fag. Is way into tomorrow already.

>>25588

retard he posted that around midnight est, looking at tropics posting habits he tends to post on here around as before mentioned midnight est its safe to bet if he isnt flaking he is going to post, AS AGAIN MENTIONED at midnight est

>>25543

I believe you tropic, i believe you wont lie

>>25633

Shut up, I'm uploading

Alright

Like I said before this is more of a test build then an actual build

I did this about 3 months before

Progression might be a bit fucked and some things probably won't make sense

I'm mostly posting this as a reference to see if most of the stats work as they should

Please don't share this build outside of this thread, I really don't like it

https://mega.nz/#!ipAwFBDT!vHXd84qjlVPoRhlvlqmhwpVNZH7DVLV5Rkxp1dgY2vg

>>25637

I'm going to remake this

If that does ok, SM or Teacher next

What I mostly need for those are cg's

wow nice i knew you'd come through

>>25636

>half a gig

nigger i trust you so little that i'm worried this is a rootkit

waiting for anon to post screencaps first tbh

>>25644

It is a virus, you need to disconect you interner forever since all your board belong to us

>>25644

fucking moron

>>25636

Wtf nigger, i didnt think you seriously post this

Whats wrong with you?

>>25636

gib debug codes or kys faggot

>>25658

Sorry, I had to take a shit, but I remember a few other things now. The kitchen counter is riddled with bugs, and you should make a map system, because navigating the house is a pain and take a lot of fucking clicks. What's the point of the bathroom? Ah, and the panties can't be sold.

>>25658

your writing is fine though the art sucks, and since everything is rng there isn't much way to get past the grind without cheating or contemplating suicide and putting the game down forever.

the fuck is up with that evangelion shit in the ending man you're given me flashbacks

>>25658

dice, really? werent you the one bitching about how boring dcs game is? fucking dice wow, also looks like shit, but you knew that already

>>25636

That menu screen reminded me of "Flower, Sun, and Rain" on the DS for some reason..

Neat.

>>25658

this doesnt qualify as a build, its broken as fuck

>>25668

How so?

I was able to go through the game, get most of the cg scenes and get to an ending

Seems like a build to me

>>25669

thats interesting, i tried it on two machienes,

breaks when i give her detox, breaks at events and sometimes things just disappear like the dicmachiene

No idea why, but i can see no dialogue

when i play the game. None at all and i have no idea why, there is just no text.

>>25671

Means you're gay dude, Ren'py has a specific function to hide dialogue from gays

You're fucked

>>25672

kek

>>25671

dont worry, its a mess, sometimes two options overlay one another in my game, so i get stuck in the kitchen sometimes

I understand that its a mess, dont get why there is no text for me though. That just seems really odd.

>>25676

half the drugs cause crashes, now im just a drug dealer, who holds his mom in the basement

I tried to redownload it, but still no text. I cant figure out why, this has never happend with other renpy games before

.

anyone know the debug code for money.

>>25685

_dash.inv.money = 9999

Anyone know the code for the camcorder and the other camera? The rng is not with me and neither shop will appear for me.

>>25688

I think you can trigger shop by doing

jump shop_d6

Or at least the code to make the shop guys appear?

I tried to activate the consol commands, but now all im getting is

File "renpy/common/00console.rpy", line 98: invalid syntax

config.console = True config.console_history_size = 100

No Willow?

Oh, wait.

NO WILLOW??!?? WTF TROPIC

Okay finding blue pill in kitches end up with wuth a loop(?). Clicking on pill show "u found x" message, clicking back button show commentary on finding blue pill.

Also after saving on dialog choosing and loading this save makes that your mom acts like you didn't roll the dice and in living room you can't roll it.

Could anyone be so kind and try to extract all the images from this new build? With the rng its hard to tell just how many new scenes there are and also due to the RNG, its hard to get to some of them.

>>25700

For you.

https://mega.nz/#!MEMl1J5Q!Mz22k8Afntb02D9qvGA4EgJDoPPdRIss9UCm-iYRDqY

>>25698

Hold CTRL while clicking back. It seem to broke all the loops I had

>>25636

I mean I dont have anything negative to say besides it felt a bit light on h-content, cheers mate this was pretty solid

Well..If i had to be honest about this build…Its not that bad actually. Its fairly good in its own odd way.

The RNG tends to work more against someone playing as opposed to for, the bugs tend to stop you like a brick wall from getting to the good stuff, like for example, the sleeping pills are meant to well…Put helen to sleep and have content all on their own.

Namely, being able to have dash jack off on a sleeping helen or even have sex with her, going by images, but with the bugs, its near impossible to access.

Likewise the massages have a good sense of progression, becoming more and more sexual as time goes on, with helen being willing to even let dash jack off to her, but again, due to RNG working against us most of the time and bugs, its very difficult to access. despite the writing being decent and the art looking good.

The corruption system is much improved, with the progression being slower and more gradual, making much more sense as helen needs to be pushed and prodded over time to become looser and looser, but still having her limits, even at high corruption, unless one plays their cards right and certain items change scenes and levels of corruption effect helens enjoyment of being lewd and how far she will go with dash.

At least that is what I think is going on, as once you reach a certain corruption level, the game will bug out and not let you interact with her any longer and be unable to access the high corruption content unfortunately. And sometimes drugs and items simply don't work, or cause the game to bug out.

But…For what is here…Its good, not perfect, not by a very long shot, but its not bad either, its good as a update after so long. One might want more content after so long a gap but im judging this alone and by its own merits and flaws.

In conclusion, this is a decent update build, a good showcase of content and has good art for the most part, two equally odd endings that i think are meant to have deep meanings and showcase consequences , but its held back by its bugs and the rng being a tad unfair twords anyone playing it.

If i had to rate it with bugs fixed 7 to 8 out of 10 with the bugs however and the rng its more of a 5 out of ten.

In addition to my post above, the biggest issue is, there is a decent amount of h scenes and content….You just cant get to it due to bugs and rng.

The simplest solution to this issue aside from fixing the bugs is make it so we can CHOOSE which scenes we want to do, its near impossible to get the scene you want or access the stores when you need them.

Most of the time i got the stores when i DIDN'T want them, often back to back then, but almost never when i did want them and had trouble getting the items i wanted or needed.

This again ties back to the RNG problem, Looking at the images, having done multiple runs of the game, i have not been able to access most of the content, because of it, i found 2 low to medium corruption massage scenes, a few of the video scenes and the end sex/blow scenes. Thats it, nothing else when there were multiple other kinds of h scenes.I was honestly surprised to see JUST how many scene variations there are that i could not access due to bugs and RNG once i looked at the images.

Simply put, being able to choose or select which scene we want after helen is corrupt enough would greatly help the game.

I can't seem to get past the first scene! I click the right answer and the game crashes!

>>25714

I really love well thought out reviews like this

There's so few of them in this medium that every time I see something like this I get teary eyed

See you space cowboy

Why?

>>25743

I'm like 50% sure tropic is actually sam hyde

Your very welcome tropic. I am more than happy to do all i can to help.

One thing i am sure i did not mention is simply put, that accessing the scenes even with the bugs fixed would be a real hassle due to rng.

I have a few solutions to this, if you care to hear them.

1. The simplest is make them selectable after you access the scene the first time, say the rear massage. After your access it just once, you no longer need RNG to allow you to do it again. Whenever you talk to helen, the option is always there to do it again and progress it with corruption defining how it plays out and how lewd it gets.

2.Make it so after it happens the first time, the massage either front or back for example here is something helen will request if her tired stat is at a certain level or she needs to feel more normal or less scared. Likewise, if she is feeling aroused, she could also request it directly, only changing it up to something different if one choose so select a 'try something different' option.

If rng is still a factor you want, make it so if you choose what it is, with the roll being affected by helens corruption, it could be something as simple as her waning you to massage her other side, or up to blowing dash or sex.

Though that depends on weather or not you want her consequently having sex with dash to be something to only happen right before the ending.

Those are my thoughts Tropic, do you think they will help?

>>25714

>Likewise the massages have a good sense of progression, becoming more and more sexual as time goes on, with helen being willing to even let dash jack off to her, but again, due to RNG working against us most of the time and bugs, its very difficult to access. despite the writing being decent and the art looking good.

Its one of my biggest issues

Because of the RNG i got to corruption level 5 without with only one massage at level 1, and not only it breaks everything because both helen and dash act like it was "another" massage while it was first

>>25759

Feedback from the supertrash build (nothing other people haven't said before me, but I'll corroborate):

- It's fun, but RNG is way too prevalent. I think both shops should either be available on a schedule (once or twice a week each), or have a specific location (behind the house?). RNG affecting their stock or the prices would be OK tho.

- Navigation system sucks. It's like 5 clicks on specific places of the screen to go to sleep. Implement a map (click on a place and you're there). Dices should also roll automatically every morning, it's not an useful interaction, just busywork.

- Stuff bought from the shop should instantly be available in the customize menu, having to go to inventory to place it is redundant.

- Don't get why you disabled the horizontal scroll to rewind that you can do on Renpy games. In the same vein, lemme have more saves.

All in all it's nice to see the Basement Build actually exists, and it has positives too. But flaws as well.

Well Tropic, i personally would prefer the second one myself and the way you described it and im glad you enjoy hearing my feed back.

If you choose to have corruption go up to 100 with sex being around 70 or higher, why not have it so the game starts with say corruption at 10, with that being baseline, normal helen.

Any events that cause corruption to increase, could at the lowest cause it to go up by intervals of 2. That way it only takes 5 corruption points to level up to next stage, not too few as so its easy to breeze through, but not too many as its a slog.

Also, selecting clothing is a hassle as you cant scroll down to choose them as you cant see them and some just vanish. Just saying that. Forgot to mention that.

>>25766

You can scroll by clicking anywhere on the wardrobe and moving down

or using scroll wheel

Apologies, i did not figure that out until you told me. Sorry tropic. I do hope you will consider the other things I said however, despite my er…Mistake.

>>25776

>corruption 20

By this u mean these "squares" or level? Because i got endgame on level 6-7.

I will have to agree with you on that point tropic. Fixed Rng and fixed cg events the game would be much improved. Only worry I have is that it might lead to situations where you are getting h scenes and cg's, that you don't want.

As it currently stands, it is difficult to figure out how to trigger massage scenes and not camera masturbation ones. It seems random at times which ones you get, which i grant is the nature of RNG, but that does not mean that it is not an issue.

I do understand corruption effects which scenes you get, that is fair and clear, what is not is when you get scenes you don't want. For example, progressing the massage scenes is difficult, as once helen reaches a corruption level, they stop occurring. Not even reaching the later ones.

Even with RNG and cg fixed and the buggy items and the like fixed, I would recommend that there be a way even a small one to be able to access the scenes you want to.

I understand that you feel that it would make the game more linear or a gallery thing, but still. Being unable to progress in the scenes you want or even access them is a noticeable issue.

I do agree that linearity is not something the game has ever had in mind, the earlier versions always had varying dialogue and scenes, making no 2 play toughs the same, which i always appreciated and found enjoyable.

But with actual sexual scenes now with dash and helen, it becomes a bit more tricky, as now it is difficult to get the ones you want. I know i am repeating this over and over but Its one of the most annoying things ive noticed.

Along with trying to get access to the shops when i actually NEED them.

One minor gripe it…Concerns the ending. Not the endings themselves, they are fine in their own weird ways, what i mean is that they just kind of…happen once helen reaches a certain corruption level.

They kind of stop you dead in your tracks and unless you reload, you have to go through them and reach the ending videos.

I am not sure what to say other than, maybe something could be done about it? Maybe make it optional like dash starts thinking what is said to himself and can you can choose to say not yet and instead get a different scene and continue on for a bit longer?

Im not sure, i think the issue is it shows up too soon when no matter the playthough there are still alot of scenes to find and plenty more interactions to be had.

That is all I have to say for now.

For cg maybe do less levels(?) of them. but more variations?

Like making 5 different massage scenes for first time encountering and 10 for certain corruption level.

Maybe it's already like that but's it's only tied to corruption level, and it's not checking was for the first time or not.

Well tropic, if you choose not to budge, than i will let go of it. It is a suggestion, nothing more. Though i am glad that you will address the bigger issues of the shop and the ending and the bugs and such.

Honestly, im glad that you even take the time to respond to me, and im happy with the fact that you are hearing out the issues i have noticed and that you are choosing to address them.

Really glad though that you will 'Steal my idea' that both made me laugh a bit and showed me you haven't lost your sense of humor despite all the trolls attacking you.

Between you and me? Despite all the bugs and issues i have with the current build, its still nice to see that you really do care about your game and that you want to improve it and seeing a new version shows that you still give a damn.

And im happy to lend a hand with feedback whenever you need. We have talked at length in the past before on your patron as well. Though with a different name.

Wanted to shit on Tropic's code but it's actually decent instead of his usual junk O_O

it's actually build to easely allow expansions and shit

i guess gj tropic?

(but i guess it was prob your bud xxxxx(XXXXX))

>>25795

Das a no-no

Also why would XXXXXXXX do it

What is his benefit?

Ain't no money to be had big boy

>>25781

Stop

Writting

Like this

Retard

It's fucking pointless

And annoying.

Just don't leave a whole fucking line Reddit friendo.

>>25796

so you're saying you wrote that yourself after the piece of shit code you wrote in all the other versions?

Just curious are you willing to part with the console commands? So that we, the ones that don't try shitting on you, may test the game faster and test for errors.

I actually got stuck in a blue pill loop. It fixed itself after I saved and restarted the game.

>>25808

I'll upload a quick bug fix for the major problems in a bit and i'll add console codes

>>25805

I rarely see a developer care. I'm so used to corporate no-facing that I forget how enjoyable it is to see a developer interact with people…

>>25805

I like my original SM

why?

My fucking god, this thread isn't a troll thread anymore. I must've slipped into a different dimension.

Eh, whatever. Best timeline.

>>25657

where's this from wew

There was an update? Huh… Haven't seen this in a long time. Its good to have you back.

Holy fuck, an update? EVERYONE, GO TO THE SHELTERS, THIS IS NOT A TEST I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A TEST.

>>25854

Dunno fam, sorry.

>>25864

This weekend m8, I prom-

>>25636

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?!

ABORT! ABORT THREAD!

Thats right little trolls, run back to your caves. For this game has been updated and your power over it has been broken.

what the fuck is up with the design decisions of this game. why do we have to roll a random ass dice before talking to mom? why is literally everything rng based?

>>25871

It's still literally nothing.

>>25879

I'm pretty sure all of tropics games are going to be like this

It's unique I guess but it can be hit or miss and hard to balance as well as being targeted only for a specific sort of audience

>>25871

dont worry anon, its gonna happen again, once tropic has stacked up on patreons.

i dont care about fucking the mom, can i do shit with the sister in the basement build?

>>25885

The assets are there

but I think tropic run out of money for CG's

>>25886

Those assets are from the previous build.

>>25897

>>25899

The Bathroom door is in the wrong place.

Also the doorswing for Dash's room should be flipped~ goodjob tho

>>25903

yeah woops, Violet and Dash is also in the wrong position, but you get the idea

>>25907

Looks a lot better, but the window curtain is a bit off.

>>25908

This is what have been said in the previous thread.

>>25921

The lower part of the body looks strangely weird

But again to make patreon shekels you need more then just one charcter model

>>25922

Yeah, I know. Just thought I'd get feedback before embarking on having everything in the same style. What's odd about the lower part of the body? I've probably looked at it too long to judge.

>>25927

Ah, okay. She's supposed to semi-turned, and there have been issues trying to convey that. I'll see what can be done.

>>25881

ok i understand everything being rng. i dislike it but some people might like it.

but please explain what is the gameplay purpose of being forced to go to the living room and rolling a dice (which i always fucking forget to do) before talking to mom? why not skip the dice altogether and just "roll the dice" (internally) every time you talk to mom like any sane developer would do?

>>25933

That was already mentioned and it sounds like a shitty game designs, although it didn't bother me, how can you miss the dices in the damn living room? It was easy to skip for them to roll faster.

My only legit complain is access to the shops.

>>25933

I think there was some gameplay purposes built upon other stuff happening in the house but tropic implemented only one of those ideas which is the random appearance of items which is still currently bugged

So a have a suggestion/question. Do you plan to add some quests/works/minigames/stuff for Dash to do instead of spending time with mother?

And will it/make it that it will affect Helen's mood and actions,

Also about characters art style. I like original style only because of it sharp look that looks almost like pixel art maybe? There is just not so much sharp looking arts, maybe because of the digital tools nature. Only downscaled pictures have that sharp feel.

>>25962

Just draw things in higher resolution. And scale it down instead of drawingin native resolution.

Also why no to minigames? It will be alright to tie money earning them. Or i just don't see alternatives to it which will make players feel that they earned money

Needs to be a way to get into the mom or sisters bedrooms at night and masturbate on them. Then build to undressing them, and eventually drugging and sex.

>>25968

>sliding game

Lel. At least it have decent minigame - typing. And math game is alright.

Writing novels sounds out of place and forced by khm khm… "other game" But with right exposition it could work. There is not that much you can do to earn money without leaving house, so…

Also after some time it could become a routine like in Witch Trainer where it ends up with grinding all the days to make money, so there should be something to negate this.

Minigames in this situation will not have this problem, i think.

>>25970

MINIGAMES ARE FUCKING GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

>>25972

I dont know how to feel about minigames, on one hand they are 100% an option if you want gameplay mechanics related to getting money, on the other they completely ruin the flow of the game and are a p easy way to kill a boner

how do you buy food?

>>25986

I don't think food is a functional part of the gameplay, it's just mentioned either as an excuse for Dash to get money or to make Helen sad.

>>25970

>>25972

>>25979

I agree with tropic on this one. I've played quite a few porn games that had an arbitrary mini-game shoved in there, and it is rarely a good thing. I'll admit, a few of them were actually enjoyable, but more often than not most of them were obviously shoe-horned in just to have something there. They didn't fit with what you were supposed to be doing, they were dull, and I couldn't keep my boner up through them.

So for mini-games, pls no.

>>25972

rng is gay.

Okay im going to try to address the reasons for there to be mini games and the reasons against them. The ups and downs of both.

On the for minigames side, I do agree that there does need to be more things to do in the house. In the current build, all we can really do is well…Look for drugs and such. Other than that, there is not much of anything to do.

All you can do is roll the dice of shenron and try to get either the shops, which I addressed why the RNG element with them is so annoying in my long posts above a few days back or roll the dice to try to get new scenes or interactions with helen.

That is it. So I can see why implementing mini games is something that seems like a decent idea, if only to give players something else to do while playing. If the mini game effects helen in someway, that would be better.

On the against side however, There are good reasons as well. First off, mini games can EASILY screw up a games flow. If they are not implemented right and its tricky to implement them right, they can be very annoying and you just want to get through them as fast as possible.

Take four elements, it has hunting/ fighting mini games and they get annoying fast. First time through a route they are not too bad, but you really have to grind them out just to continue the story of whichever route you are in.

Even though they do have a in game reason to exist, it does not mean that they are not annoying as for a while in either route the game currently as, when you start, you do crap damage and need to block and heal constantly until you reach higher levels of water or fire bending.

But back to this game, a mini game for this one could be say something that involves dash's superspeed. Maybe its something like that one scene in the beginning of the movie, where you put something on someones chair or flip up a girls skirt or something along those lines.

It could even involve helen, either way however this is just an example not an idea.

Witch trainer has the BIG issue of grinding. Anyone who has played it can tell you, you that to get to even the most basic sexual scenes, you need to do a ton of crap.

Even writing it out here would take up a huge amount of space, because that is how much stuff you need to do.

Granted they are not minigames, but my point still stands. Mini games can screw with a games flow and be very annoying when implemented wrong. Especially if they are made mandatory.

But not having them can mean you fall into a loop of doing the same thing over and over again and that can get dull quickly and get repetitive. Even with the good writing the game tends to have.

So about writing novels. PLS DON'T implement mechanic there you get more money if you write more pages in one week than writing the same amount of pages on two or more week (how it's done in witch trainer)

Also make that writing poems will consume(?) only one half of the day, so you have the other half to do exploration, talking and etc. I think it will help pacing (or how it's named in english i dont know)

>>26134

Forgot to add that writing novels should be limited to be performed(?) only once a day. So it's like you do it in the morning and spend day to other stuff or you spend morning to other stuff and spend your day writing novels. So in the end u can't spend the whole day to working on it even if you want.

>>26141

Warioware hentai mini games

Where do I sign up?

'The only way your idea could work is if I do something like Wario Ware in the school and do a rapid succession of making people fall into lewd events where you then document it on the camera to create a propaganda video so that helen believes the stories of the surface'

Thats…Actually a really a good idea. It could even work if its just random women or girls on the street that dash uses his powers to screw with.

So i was thinking.

Can Dash train himself?

Like learning lewd words, termins, concepts. Kid can't know what bondage is if he didn't seen it somewhere/read it from lewd books or internet.

As i write it, it reminded me witch trainer when mc read fic books. And it felt unnatural. So maybe in supertrash it could functioning as upgrade to scenes not unlock to them. or it unlocked hardcore scenes like snaff (maybe) or something on the same level, but not so discusting.

Also quests. Maybe you already planned them, but i don't know.

I like the non chibi non sex scene art for the mom, if it could stay like that the entire time that'd be great.

>>26157

I think the point is that Dash is kind of a weird fucked up kid

>>26174

yeah honestly that was one of my larger problems with the game, the inconsistent art styles, the art was all over the fucking place tropic I would say any of the styles were bad by themselves but it looked like a fucking hodgepodge.

>>26177

You know. I think i wrote something stupid in that post (excluding witch trainer problem)

tropic will not do quests (how they are done in other games). So only option is to make chains of event there first Dash learns something then you rng event there he uses info he learned in event before. And there's is already events like that.

So this can be an interesting chain of event. but nothing more. And not "an interesting mechanic" as i thinked of it first time.

>>26186

Is that your art?

Also first time i thought it was wabaki.

>>26186

if that is your new art i am significantly less interested in your future games.

>>26198

You really liked the old better?

I'm really fucking interested in fucking dyke Violet.

>>26200

That's not violet though

>>26201

Who is that, then? Helen?

>>26203

I think it's just a random design

i m gay "l.o.l."

>>26200

yeah the old one was kinda cute but this new design is just gross looking imo.

>>26208

Someone already said that's a random character, not Helen. This is how Helen will look like >>25361

As for the character, I'm into Dyke looking characters, so that's nice.

While I do enjoy discussing the future of super mom and tropics games, which i hope there will be more of, i feel like at this moment we should all be focusing on addressing ways to improve the current version of the game we have.

Both when it comes to the bugs and general issues it faces with rng and not being able to accessing all of its content, such as the sleeping content being completely unacessable due to sleeping pills causing the game to bug out and not be able to use them.

Im not saying we shouldn't be discussing art and…Oddly dyke looking violet's im just saying maybe we should all be looking and fixing what we currently have so we can actually you know…Play it like its meant to be played and judge it accordingly.

I have no idea why, but my post was posted multiple times. No idea why, but that is weird.

Report:

I think I just missed half the game due to not seeing the shopkeeper and buying a camera in time. he didnt show up forever and by the time i saw him I had $800+. Only got the kiss, fingerbang helen through panties, and blowjob, i think it missed scenes because there was some art in the end slideshow that i hadnt seen yet. I think I got the message telling me I need a camera to go further 3-4 times.

Liked the basement build a lot. Hated the house layout (i.e. the amount of clicks performed in a core gameplay loop). Obviously a little light on the H, vendor +/- price RNG was a little interesting I suppose, and I especially liked the costume events. I would hope that you would be able to increase the amount of drugs given, not necessarily the potency, I just think it's one of the fun things in the game; you like drugging this character, so why not allow the player to engage in activities they enjoy more frequently?

I'm sure this on the right track, and I appreciate the upload.

>>26384

The thing that you did distance between doors and distance between door and perpendicular wall same on picture really disturbs me.

Like you don't know how perspective work with same length on different distances point of view.

>>26384

I love you.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1470252.Vanishing_Point

I'll just leave this here.

>>26416

Can you do some red lines, I don't know where the problem is exactly

So…Hows that bug fix version coming along?

>>26424

Minor nitpick, but the handles on the doors would probably all be on the same side, if they open in the same direction. Not some being on one side and mirrored across the hallway.

>>26426

That's not true, most doors that are opposite of each other are usually mirrored

That's the way they are in my house

>>26424

>>26425

>>26426

who gives a shit about this calm your autism lmao

>>26442

Don't you see that facing up wall is too far away?

>>26436

Got this error after closing the merchant window ( after first phrase).

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 243, in script call
  File "game/locations/livingroom.rpy", line 87, in script
ScriptError: could not find label '_call_expression_23.nv'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 243, in script call
  File "game/locations/livingroom.rpy", line 87, in script
  File "C:\Users\olehk\Downloads\Supertrash-0.4.1-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1527, in execute
    rv = renpy.game.script.lookup(target)
  File "C:\Users\olehk\Downloads\Supertrash-0.4.1-pc\renpy\script.py", line 857, in lookup
    raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label '_call_expression_23.nv'.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 6.99.12.2.2029
Super Trash 0.4.1

>>26454

Ugh

The gay fucking compiler messed up

I gotta ask my roommate to compile for me

My bad

>>26425

This is the hardest I've ever laughed on /htg/

New version when? Also link

>>26460

Tbh, the bigger problem is that the door in the distance is resting on the horizon line, so it looks like the room is a slope

>>26384

So played the 4.1 version. Dash and Mom doors are to close to the screen edge. And it feels strange because there is a long trend to move important info, buttons and etc from the screen edge. Because of te tv safe space or whatever it's named.

So does anyone know the console code for sleeping pills? Im trying to access the sleeping content, but i need them and the shops dont carry them often. Also i think when corruption reaches a certain point the sleeping pills stop working as all i get from 2 times back to back is her repeating, i need peace or stuff you get if you click on her after you roll the dice.

>>26535

_dash.inv.add(_items["sleepingpills"],30)

I think it works 3 times per tier of corruption

>>26535

>>26536

I was gonna ask for cheats because I just wanna masturbate but nevermind LUL

>>26543

man, this game is torturous, I wanted to give my review, but its too much.

to illustrate: Day begins: click the door, click the bathroom, click the mirror, click/not the drug, click back, click hallway, click living room, click outside, click table, click/not drug, click back, click inside, click machine, click die, click die, click back, click dining room, click kitchen, click counter, click drug, click back, click dining room, click garage, click basement.

At this point ive completed all my "chores" :making money, activating the events

I however did not have any fun untill now. after 24 mouseclicks, finally Im having some fun for a couple of seconds something happens, I might even make a decision/or something happens. And then…well you get my point, this game is about 10% fun and 90% filler.

Is the dildo content in the actual game, can't seem to get any of the scenes where she use them.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/hub.rpy", line 57, in script call
  File "game/hub.rpy", line 114, in script call
  File "game/content/bb_costume.rpy", line 1902, in script
ScriptError: could not find label 'costume_t3d2.seenonce'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/hub.rpy", line 57, in script call
  File "game/hub.rpy", line 114, in script call
  File "game/content/bb_costume.rpy", line 1902, in script
  File "D:\Archive\Cens\Games\vn\Supertrash-0.4.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1527, in execute
    rv = renpy.game.script.lookup(target)
  File "D:\Archive\Cens\Games\vn\Supertrash-0.4.2-pc\renpy\script.py", line 857, in lookup
    raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'costume_t3d2.seenonce'.

Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
Ren'Py 6.99.12.2.2029
Super Trash 0.4.2

>>26599

your problem is fairly obvious, kid. you're dereferencing a null pointer, it was right in front of you the whole time.

>>26556

Indeed, the gameplay loop is atrocious. And worst of all, all of the buttons you describe are all over the screen, so you have to constantly be flying with your cursor across the screen just to find where you're trying to go. Uncountable are the times I accidentally went to the laundry room or garage or living room when I didn't mean to.

And for what? The dialogue you get when talking to mom is garbage and chock full of continuity errors (talking about doing this thing "again" or "for the last time" when it's the first time I do it, for example), and the art… well, it's not awful. And after going through this for an hour what do you get? Terrible endings that are unnecessarily long and make no sense.

Everything about this game is bad. But I had fun playing it.

Any console command for money?

>>26649

_dash.inv.money = 9999

This reminds me of the time I used to play Love Hina Dating Sim and Eva 4 Dating Sim.

The humor and those endings are awesome, you are doing good work, keep it up

Holy shit this game fucking sucks so bad

just finished the game, i liked the endings. The vibe you were going for was pretty chill, you should stick more to that.

The self aware humor makes it kinda hard to jack off since it just reminds you some guy made this, which i guess might be the pount

>>26701

thank you, i thought i was the only one not under Tropics spell

i really don't get what people see in this game, art is ok i guess but gameplay wise is pure garbage, only lasted 30 min and then turned it off and deleted it

>>26701

>>26743

Shh samefag, you'll scare him away again.

>>26775

except I uploaded within a minute unless ur gonna actually believe I changed that too.

whatever, keep playing this stupid shit and supporting this lazy fuck.

"whatever you are, be a good one."

>>26775

you forgot the green you, dip

>>26778

I will as long as you continue to get mad

>>26749

>you'll scare him away again.

tropic doesnt draw, but he will not get the funding to pay for cg. its over.

>>26790

I mean he could take the cg that is currently there, fix the gameplay and then re-release it as a pretty good game

>>26743

>the only one

yeah it's not like people have been saying how shitty it is for the past 100 posts wait..

This game is weird

The writing is competent

The programming looks complex

The art is decent

Yet the gameplay is so fucked that it completely ruins every other aspect of the game

It confuses me as to how the other pieces were made competent yet that final piece that ties it all together was so blunderfucked

>>26801

all i ever see about this game is people sucking Tropics dick saying its fantastic.

>>26808

>entire thread is filled with suggestions as to how to improve said game

>NAH WE HAVE TO JUST HAVE TO SAY IT'S BAD WITH NO CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM FOR IMPROVEMENTS OTHERWISE IT MUST MEAN WE'RE SUCKING TROPICS DICK

Why are you so fucking stupid anon

Why are you such a big fucking idiot

Do you just see what you want to see

Do you have the brain capabilities to understand the concept of language

Why are you like this

>>26805

the writing is not competent and the art is not decent

this is not even an opinion

>>26817

Tropic said he didn't like the writing. My only problem with it is the lack of punctuation. Otherwise, pretty good considering the simple and stupid premise. Certainly better than Big Brother. As for the art. the art in-game is trash, but, again, Tropic said he was going to replace it with the art he uses now.

It would be nice if you actually read the thread, retard, all the criticism was addressed already and at the very least have an explanation. The only actual criticism it has is how the RNG breaks the sequence, and I'm sure someone already suggested something about that.

Speaking of which, I think that Tropic can simply place a switch in the scenes, as in some scenes can't be plaid if the conditions aren't met, specifically playing previous scenes,

anyone know the audio source for the basement build loop.webm in the unpacked video files? full version anywhere?

>>26846

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7SXzDU874

>>26808

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand tropics games. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of writing most of the jokes will go over a typical gamer’s head. There’s also tropic’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Samuel Hyde and his various works, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of his various game mechanics, to realise that they’re not just thrown in randomly- they say something deep about LIFE as a whole. As a consequence people who dislike tropics games truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in tropics existential catchphrase “demon girls are basically furries” which itself is a cryptic reference to Samuel Hyde's epic "How to bomb the US Government". I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as tropics genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ?

>>26851

>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand tropics games.

t. tropic

>>26855

>he doesn't know about a reddit meme

good for him tbh

>>26851

pretty good

>>26858

agree.

>>26858

What is reddit anyways? I hear people talking shit about it all the time here, and over on -1 and half. But I have never taken a look and don't know shit about it.

>>26851

kek

>only $28 on patreon

Next weekend im gonna pledge 50$ dollars to your patreon tropic

>>26902

Don't do that

Tropic only puts out builds when he's at his lowest

You know, there is a simple explanation for why Tropic's game is amazing. But the answer is far too complex for most of you to understand.

>>27065

No-one is capable of performing the mental gymnastics necessary to explain why this game isn't a piece of shit.

>>27099

I just don;t care fore them. If you like reddit so much, stay there.

>>27117

this

best mspaint artist ever

So…Tropic…What exactly are your plans for remaking the game anyway? Don't think you ever expressed them or cleared up what they are.

>>27285

His rework is that he takes a gun and blows his brains out and then codes that in

>>27285

His plans are to not do anything for half a year and claim he's working on reworking the game. It's the only reason any of these developers do such thing - any competent dev knows that rewriting software from scratch is the worst decision you could make.

>>27322

Somewhat. If money gained goes towards almost 0 it represents something.

>>27323

Yeah, it means you faggot should stop falling for fucking patreon scams.

>>27322

No, but Tropics competency to burn every bridge and throw all of his potential money is his incompetency

He was one of the first to pick up on the lewd game boom and if he actually kept updating he could have been at big brother level by now

but instead he sits dead last

It's fascinating

>>27326

But he pissed away thousands upon thousands of dollars anon

Even for the sake of a hobby it's still insane to think about

>>27327

Yeah, but doing shit for degenerates is not that rewarding as you may think.

>>27328

BUT THOUSANDS ANON

he could have just released a single cg a month and be set

>>26805

>The writing is competent

Is it? That's all I really care to know about since Tropic's art is good, but since people have mentioned that there's a lot of le wacky meta humor I'm worried. That shit ruined the Avatar game.

>>27377

The author of the avatar game is fucking Shakespeare compared to tropic

>>27420

fuck off mity

>>27377

I loved the avatar humour. It was great.

>>27445

comon, that was hilarious

>>27445

That one's dumb but not the kind of thing I mean. I'm talking more about those talking-to-himself things where the MC mutters about how much he likes tits or whatever while talking to Azula or the shit with the so funnay closeted gay guard that felt like it went on for fucking ever. That shit ruined the game for me, absolute immersion breaker and he does it CONSTANTLY. Just when I'm getting settled in and buying into the story he hits you with some outlandish BS that, like some other anon here said, reminds you this is just some guy writing a game. People should just be serious. There's no upside to shit like that so literally why.

>>27458

Oh fuck off, sure, inserting dumb jokes when something erotic is going on, is stupid, but the gay guards, I thought, were hilarious.

>>27503

I don't really know what to say. It was definitely not 'hilarious' and even just saying that makes me think it's not worth talking to you since you must have a normalfag-tier mind, but even if it had been funny that doesn't matter: it was jarring and stupid. It was totally disconnected from everything that was going on in the world around it, essentially just the author going HURRRRR SO FUNNY AMIRITE. The reason I gave the poop thing earlier a pass was that, even though it also wasn't funny, it at least had something to do with anything in the world. You could react to it and the story moved along from there. The gay guards and shit of that nature is basically dead air, you can comfortably ctrl when they start fucking around because it's essentially an OOC skit that's got no impact or presence in the world and that shit pisses me off because I'm trying to get invested here.

Compare that shit with the way Nergal, to me probably the finest dev this scene has ever had, and the way he did it. That guy treated the worlds he created seriously, which in turn made it easier for ME to take them seriously. That's all it comes down to. A character making a joke is a lot different than a character being a joke.

>>27572

I'll admit, when Azula said I have a cute ass, and the guard confirmed that I do, I definitely chuckled

So, how is everyone doing today? More importantly, how are YOU doing tropic?

You could add hair dye, breast implantment surgery, or have her make her boobs bigger cause she's elstagirl, to say it simpler think we can make her extra T H I C C

>>28033

This

>>28033

If we can make her boobs bigger then I think the default proportions should be close to the film so that when you make her thick it stands out a lot more than if she already started halfway there.

>>27757

Tbh i hopped for some witty respond or at least some kind of easter egg when clicking "fuck you tropic" option

Unfortunately tropic failed even with this option

So, another year without update?

Huh? No go to his patreon, Tropic sent out a new basement build a while back and bug fixed it. Also, i was wondering tropic If the basement build is for Helen and the school stuff is for mirage and the teacher, what is for violet?

>>28451

>Huh? No go to his patreon, Tropic sent out a new basement build a while back and bug fixed it.

Quit lying.

>checks local folder

>0.4.0

>checks patreon

>0.4.2

WHAT?!

>>28451

I have seen it.

I meant that there will not be anything like media release before next release, which will happen in a year or even later.

Maybe better was to write "So, another year without news?"

>>28498

Another decade without news

>>28454

that masterful drawing

>>28869

If i had good camera i could shown you my horrible take on helen from an hour ago.

>>28873

I can't draw Helen, sorry.

>>28873

you know eyebrows and bone structure are connected, right?

also

>copying a jpeg and stretching it onto a higher quality base layer

>>28877

>giving critiques to 2 year old drawings

Get a load of this G O Y

>>28879

look at this G O Y trying to pass off a 2 year old jpeg as new for patreon shekels

>>28881

Hey that's not bad. You got better you degenerate. Pretty good on the shading.

>>28882

No that is bad

Also linear drew that 2 years ago

I've run out of examples of ingame characters I drew

>>28883

Okay, you suck. Your lifes achievements are worth nothing and you will die alone.

Better?

>>28883

Can you show some recent stuff?

Аlso asked it before, but got no answer. Did you draw >>26186 it? Because those jeans looks sexy as fuck.

>>28888

Did you photoshop some clothes on top or you drew them?

Only thing showing that it was drawn are shadows on blouse/shirt.

>>28890

You could just answered "yes i drew them from ground up"

>>28895

Yo that's nice.

demoman

Can you say original image resolution/resolution you work with on these images?

>>28897

400 x 1080

300 reso

wHILE we're on the topic of incompetent devs and abandoned games, what the fuck happened to that momcest trainer? only reason i remember it is cause it used british pounds as currency

>>28911

He tried to recruit more people to help him on the project but didn't take into account that most people lose attention span after less then a week

Then he too lost the motivation

There was a public google drive but it hasn't been updated in months

>>28913

It still has writing updates every once in a while. The last entry was a week ago.

>>28914

A? does it? Or i should look somethere else than blogspot.

>>28928

Looks pretty active on the git

https://gitgud.io/tyroflux/MomcestTrainer/activity

also I've never even heard of this until now

>>28930

well guess he's been quietly developing it… maybe soon we'll see its first release!!

>>29133

Also if you gonna take it maybe better to give you my psd file.

https://my.mixtape.moe/jnjftr.psd

anybody know how to access console commands or what i got to do?

How this game is not in the front page?

>>29920

Not a lot to say about it. I just hope tropic is working on it instead of dropping it after the basement build.

>>29927

see

>>25679

>>29976

Too bad that was dated for like 3 weeks ago and it's probably only writing.

>>29976

Who cares? NO money, no CG.

Its dead.

>someone mentions that tropic actually released something

>basement build was totally real

>its mostly rng

>get exception occured the every time i interact with helen

>art is shit

i expected dropic to just leave so we could all forget about this mess, and maybe someone else will actually make a increadibles trainer but this is much more disappointing

>>31016

I wouldn't want someone else than tropic to do it. Someone else would probably whore out Helen or something like that, whereas tropic made so only Dash can fuck her. Also, he promised he was going to fix the RNG issues, but he disappeared like the Avatar in the Avatar thread.

anyone got the new update?

>>31208

AFAIK There is slight delay.

>>31208

Next weekend

…hype?

>>32065

whoa did dash wilder get taller

>>32066

Like it has old avatar and stuff

So…Tropic…Any progress yet?

i had a dream tropic finished this but removed the shota and put my hairy cousin as the protagonist instead

>>35056

I rate it.

>>35075

i wont let you hide your shame till more nico robin

>>35086

>>35081

I had a feeling that he was going to say that, I was thinking of helping with the code, so I think I got my answer.

>>35093

>thinking it's the actual tropkek