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https://www.patreon.com/Tropic
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No.69951
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No.70465
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No.70469
>>70465
Uh..
I wish I had to courage to sleep naked
It's getting quite hot but I still refuse to sleep in the nude due to having an irrational fear of something crawling up my ass
The way humans feel exposed without clothes has become a fundamental problem with our psyche
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No.70472
>>70469
My grandma always said that is better not to sleep naked because if there's an emergency at night you'll have to run for it naked.
Clothes are out second skin, our exoskeleton, it's part of human life.
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No.70502
>>70472
>>70469
Sleeping naked is bad because it means you'll have to change your sheets and stuff more often. Just wearing some underwear wont really affect your body temperature.
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No.70539
>>70502
Underwear is optimal.
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No.70541
>>70469
kek, I thought Russia had bears not wild faggots I sleep naked occasionally just sleep in your briefs you dumb faggot, who sleeps nude you never know when you need to rush to get awake.
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No.70562
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No.70628
>>69706
>>70469
Why the gloomy style? Would be fitting for a horror game where the player is locked in a asylum and has to figure out which one does the killing.
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No.70634
>>70628
Pretty good anon
I'm saving that
But ye it didn't intend to be a gloomy game but after writing a lot of sort of light hearted fun stuff for knd I started adding more serious psyche stuff to the teacher game
It's not really horror more like
>Perception of the world changes to be darker as game progresses due to more elements being reveled about a character
Like uh
Danganronpa tier?
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No.70654
Tropic, I read your comments and I notice that you are very demanding and so you think a game will only be good if it is at least as deep or even more than things already consolidated.
If you keep thinking like this, you're never going to make a game.
There is a book that tells the story of an artist of extreme good taste and talent, but who needs money and starts trying to make books for simple people. But his talent always prevails and in the end he ends up creating masterpieces, but no one wants to read them because they are very deep.
The difference of this artist for you is that he can finish what he starts.
I suggest you forget all your culture about adult games and try to make a simple game for simple people.
Bye!
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No.70660
>>70654
Why?
What's the point?
Why would you want to appeal to retards and indians?
Like just because every retard with a base knowledge of coding can shit out some honeymaker, 3d unity asset tripe doesn't mean that it's something to aspire to, all for the hope of wanting to make some fucking dollars.
Plebians are cancer, why would I ever want to interact with them. Why would I ever want to do anything for them?
I want to surround myself with things I enjoy, people I like, create a community of quality, live in immortality by making something worth playing.
It's harder and requires more time and there's a large chance you'll never be successful like you want, but that's the joy of creation, it's what makes you want to do anything.
If you ever find me mucking about with the pigs in their shit, I give you full permission to put a bullet in my head
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No.70663
>>70660
I know it's rhetorical questions, but I'll respond anyway:
>Why?
Because no one creates great things without having created simple things before.
>What's the point?
The point is to acquire knowledge linked to creation itself. No one writes a good book just because it has read other good books. Nobody makes a good game just because they played good games.
>Why would you want to appeal to retards and indians?
If you are not able to please simple people, you most likely will not be able to please demanding people. If you skip steps and try to please demanding people without completely mastering the technique of what you are doing, the result will be pretentious garbage.
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No.70683
>>70663
well that was kinda retarded.
you dont make games to please others you make games to please yourself as hideo kojima said "game creation is the biggest and greatest masturbation of all,if you want to get success you have to show them the bigest masturbation the world has yet to see" so as you see your thoughts are the kind of capitalist money grabber.
as yoshinori tersawa said "if you are normal the only people satisfied with what you do will be just a few nothing will change that,but if are born with talent you are expected to make other people happy that is the only reason you are born talented,your talent wont make you happy since was born for other people happynness ,talented people are born for the sake of others,people that put effort are pathetic and egoistic and will always use excuses to get what they want but dont deserve"
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No.70684
>>70663
forgot something.
humanity cant create anything from scratch because they arent gods,they always need a base to make what they want.
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No.70692
>>70683
Hideo Kojima is just trying to look smart.
The process of creating anything involves some intimacy and you end up losing the ability to make an unbiased judgment about quality.
So the point of view of others is important if you want to create something of quality, especially when you are not yet experienced.
>so as you see your thoughts are the kind of capitalist money grabber.
The need to share what you do and please others is not about making money. Anyone who has participated in RPG Maker forums as a teenager knows that this was the general motivation of the environment, even if no one made a penny of their games.
And pleasing simple people is not a bad thing. This shows that you master the basics of what you are doing. If you are a writer but can not create a story that holds the attention of a child, then you are a farce.
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No.70713
>>70692
it seems you are quite stupid since most game creators have the same opinion as hideo kojima.
he wasn't trying to look smart game creation in the end is just self pleasing yorself if you aren't satisfied with your game nobody will be as simple as that but you aren't mart enough to decifer the meaning of kojima words.
Hideo Kojima game developer for almost 30 years and has made more games and best sellers so your reaction is proof how stupid you are.
Most americans and european are illiterate bastards expecting to please them with aa good story is stupid since they will forget what they were reading 5 minutes before proof of this is the game octoberween is one of the most succesfull almost finished games yet if you read the story you realize there are several plot holes,lack of backstory,gramatical errors,story changing every time since author lacked capabilities to read the story he made,is similar to most games you find on patreon yet is succesfull since was made to appeal the same people you are trying to please.
You are a money grabber since you are excusing yourself with the excuse when you are young and you use rpg maker forums yet most popular games are RPG specially ero RPG you can see that those games are released almost each day officially.
To create something of quality you have to get talented people a good story maker,a good CG artist,a good musician,a good coder once you have all that your game will be succesfull.
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No.70721
>>70713
>if you aren't satisfied with your game nobody will be as simple
This statement does not make any sense. I mean, it does not make logical sense at all, you're saying that the value that people give to something is linked to the author's feelings and not to the thing itself.
No wonder you think that Kojima's words have some deeper meaning and are not just the way a pseudo-intellectual repeats shit from self-help books.
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No.70726
>>70721
it makes sense but you lack the intelligence to understand the meaning.
take for example gta games they are boring as fuck because they are making what you are thinking,call of duty games are just USA propaganda that appeals to the psycopaths and patriotism is the only reason they sell.
As the best games developers have said and proven only if you have the most talented people in your team your game will have quality and be good,sadly your games lacks of those features.
.- Story wise is shit and ripping off popular games
.- CGs well they need someone talented since they are bad.
.- Music non existant.
I could keep going on and on but i stop here.
For example to prove my point i just go to freem site and download any free game in the site (posted by game developersfor free) and will have more fun with those,some have CGs of really good quality and most of those developers made the games in less then 4 months with a team that had talented people or someone ultra talented and they are satisfied with their work and if you look their games they are really well made unlike the broken mess found here that either are broken and unplayable or simple they are unfinished because they want to make something beyond their capabilities and get stressed out because thing don't work as they thought so they start changing everything to appeal to the masses making a pile of garbagethat barelly resembles a game.
For example you choose a poor direction based on the story the movie has since barelly gives content other then NTR,oyakodon,or oni chichi style besides that type of content there is nothing else to use on a parody.
You are doing the same as the author of the ben 10 game yet he was useless since he wanted to do something but he failed to make the necessary changes to make it work.
As a story maker i went to him to help him make the game
.- Story was a mess
.- Plot changed too much
.- Backstory was lacking
.- details lacking
.- barelly null input
.- Characters didn't capture the spirit of the series.
I opted to change the story,add backstory and improve everything to make it a real Ben 10 adult game it didn't work since wasn't what he was trying to do,i said to him "mate the series gives you to make only certain type of adult content either you make gwen the protagonist of the game or grandpa since the thing you want won't work with ben as protagonist" he complained and said things worked fine for incognitymous and blah blah blah,i explained to him again based on the series you either make gwen the protagonist or grandpa since the content you can make is limited to either became a slut in case you chose to make gwen the protagonist or transforming gwen into a cum toilet if you opt to use grandpa as the protagonist either way is less work and works better he didn't do it and is the main reason that after 2 years the game don't have progress.
You are doing the same as him want to appeal to retarded that have the mentality of a 6 year old kid,instead of making a good coherent game for smart people as most adults are.
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No.70728
Whilst >Mah kojima
Is probably at far lengths at way too far of lengths to decide that
>personal preference > Consumer preference
I think my main gripe with >>70663
Is that if you spend your time making crap you'll only be good at making crap
I think one should try to make the best thing he can with the skills and resources he has at the time rather than go out of the way to make something simple just to say that
>Yeah I made it
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No.70729
>>70728
Fucking 4am posting
>Is probably at far lengths at way too far of lengths to decide that
What the fuck does this even mean?
*Is probably taking it to the extreme ends of personal creative control
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No.70773
>>70728
Your reasoning only makes sense if you consider something simple = crap.
But in any creative activity, a talented and competent person is able to create something simple and good.
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No.70778
>>70663
If your objective is to make something simple, you will never get past it. If your objective is to make something good, and you start by making something flawed in that endeavor, you may eventually rise to quality. Fuck you and your idiocy, simpletons are harder to please than humans.
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No.70781
>>70778
I will not continue this discussion because you have no commitment to logic and your sentences do not make sense.
Or I'm talking to an AI, or a woman. In both cases I think it is a waste of time to continue.
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No.70782
>>70726
Show me one successful trainer that has you being trained.Show me one trainer that has you being trained.
You're just pushing your preferences onto others. Tell us why it doesn't work to be Ben and yet would be/work better as Gwen or Max.
"Ben" being the protag lets you make Gwen and whoever else a slut for just yourself or the world. It can also be a dating sim where you romance Gwen, Julie, Kai, Ester, ect. or a mix of both for whoever you feel like.
Max and Gwen allow limited content. Max would fit just as a Trainer to turn out sluts while Gwen allows you to be a slut.Only the former sounds appealing out of these two and out of the three I would choose Ben.
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No.70789
>>70782
Ideology in friction you control the heroine and you choose what she becomes,is a really popular eroge with a suberb story and that has an anime adapation coming in september and i meant Anime direct on japanese TV.
To answer you question more properly almost any NTR game when you control the heroine and the most famous of all Violated Heroine.
It isn't like you said since most content is decided by the source in the case of ben 10 was decided by the source and gives you a few options it wasn't pushing my own ideas was make a proper game,besides having such complex eroges out the foreign market is really slow and they can barelly make something good,the most clear example is the ammount of unfinished games because they are lazy.
As most people have said now we have so many advanced tools staying with the old tools is useless but since people are greedy you see them failing.
A ben 10 game doesn't work with ben as protagonist by the simple reason he is a child and i doubt someone here had an erection good enough when they had 10 years to do it with a girl (medically impossible) grandpa being the protagonist let you do the same you suggest,the only way it would work with ben is ben unlocking the master switch and transforming into four arms or ghost freak each time to suppress the girls (was suggested and changed to make the story work) because ben is well weak really weak he would become the bitch of the girls so is a good reason it wouldn't work well with ben but with grandpa well he has the strenght to control the girls and make them his bitches the guy didn't want hypnosis or someone with adult or big dicked (as fourm arms),grandpa he can manipulate ben to lure more girls not only that basing everything on the series there are several stuff kinda weird adn that can be applied to make a game.
.- Grandpa max get along with kids really well.
.- He prefered to stay with kids instead of adult of the same age.
.- Almost every image of gwen sleeping in the series had her sleeping face down in a weird pose with her ass begging for something.
.- Grandpa convinced gwen parents it would be a good experience for her to go camping with an adult man for 3 months was a good idea
.- Grandpa was alone with gwen most of the time.
The argument you said pushing my tastes applies to you and the creator of the game that hasn't made progress so far because the story wrote itself in the series it would be understandable if we were all 12 year old kids but we are adult males forcing the protagonist to be X person is weird.
Almost every adult game properlly made would work sadly the limited thinking the author had made the game imposible to finish.
You said the game could have X simulation or Y simulation but why stay fixed on just one,normally thinking as a game developer that limits your options of the content since you can have both included (as most japanese games) one route could be normal romance,other could be slut route,other could be public toilet and so on.
With grandpa well there could be several ways to get it to work including several routes some with dead end.
As you see opting for several routes works better for the simple fact of replayability and this was proven on school days that had over 90 endings.
For example with gwen as protagonist using renpy you could apply the rpg system,SLG and the game would work with game over rape and after fullfilling some requirements you could unlock sex moves to use in battle,you could apply the clothes system,etc.
As you see there are lots of ways to get it working yet no one use the original series when that series gives you lot of content and the story writes itself with either grandpa or gwen and if you are skilled you could even make a selection of who you control.
The reasoning behind the original series is simple in fact is because most loved that gween and that story which got overwritten with the other series not only that the art style was superior,for example the new gwens look similar to the bratz or barbie or someting betwen not appealing at all.
Your point is mut.
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No.70790
>>70782
>Only the former sounds appealing
If you are a faggot or a Cluck, totally.
>>70789
Holy shit, kill yourself, faggot.
>i doubt someone here had an erection good enough when they had 10 years to do it with a girl
Just because you have an small dick doesn't mean anyone had. Even then, if you think women actually cares about the size of the dick, you are delusional, why do you think female pedos exist and there are so many of them? You are just a faggot that get turned on by the ugly bastard tag and want to force it for some reason.
>and the game would work with game over rape and after fullfilling some requirements you could unlock sex moves to use in battle,you could apply the clothes system,etc.
And you have the shittiest shit taste ever.
Do humanity a favor and kill yourself. Get taste and read actual good Ben 10 content.
https://exhentai.org/g/1424338/20233ffcaa/
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No.70793
>>70782
nope won't work ben was quite gay in the whole series.
.- i don't want to get along with the queen of cooties.
.- grandpa has us why he need to get along with older womans.
.- (after receiving a kiss) gyaak was gross.
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No.70794
>>70793
Totally not same fagging. Fuck off with your ugly bastard fetish.
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No.70795
>>70790
is a game and besides have you seen how most USA kids are now mate.
>And you have the shittiest shit taste ever.
Complaining of games formula that have sold millions LMAO.
>Do humanity a favor and kill yourself. Get taste and read actual good Ben 10 content
maybe you should kill yourself since that is the lamest and copy pasted stuff you can find online,
This thing really works
https://exhentai.org/g/1239088/c04f8442e1/
http://www.shadbase.com/alien-powers/
http://www.shadbase.com/gwens-discovery/
http://www.shadbase.com/gwenita/
Not the same guy,do you know of IP
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No.70796
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No.70799
>>70795
>Mobile shits sells a lot
>That totally means they are great games!
Enjoy your shovelware, faggot.
>Stomach deformation
>Shadman
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Jesus christ. Please tell me this is bait.
>Do you know of IP
>Also posts shadman in the other post
Please please, this is bait.
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No.70800
>>70796
>>70795
Anon, do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself. Good thing is, you will never make your own game or influence one. Thank god.
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No.70801
>>70800
over 60 games in 8 years.
over 100 mmd videos.
several 3d models made.
total influence in game making.
total influence in mmd videos making.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE BESIDES BEING A FAGGOT?
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No.70804
>>70801
And I'm an astronaut, faggot.
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No.70805
nope the one in the photo is you faggot.
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No.70806
fucking disgusting pig!!!
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No.70807
>>70804
the one on the pic is you pig
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No.70808
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No.70814
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No.72666
tfw you will see a new half-life game be released before super mom is finished
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No.72691
>>72666
>implying super mom will ever be finished
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No.72692
>>70807
Imagine the smell.
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No.72723
anyone know what to do for this ocarina thing?
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No.72727
>>68657
So basically you're a grown ass man without a job? No wonder you have so much free time. Congrats being a welfare nigger
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No.72819
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No.73073
not gonna read through all the retarded arguing; has there been an update to the game in the past like 3 years
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No.73074
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No.73089
>>70807
this nigger ate the 99%
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No.73093
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