being a girl Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 16:13:41 b3b3a1 No. 652 [Last50 Posts]
do any other hikkis wish you were girls? i do. i wouldn't be a hikki then.
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 16:35:56 87bcf7 No. 654
I thought I did at one point in life. It was one of the many mistakes I made while trying to figure my life the fuck out. It sounds dumb in retrospect but hindsight is 20/20.
Yoga pants are still comfy as hell, though.
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 17:28:36 f0bcbb No. 658
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 17:55:50 ada820 No. 669
i used to
i started hormones when i was in my late teens and now i am in my late twenties
it made me a lot happier
but i am still a hikki hikkineet with almost no friends and poor social skills
it doesn't change who you are, just what you look like
at least i'm kinda cute now
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 20:20:50 3c4703 No. 675
>>652
>do any other hikkis wish you were girls?
I don't wish i was a girl but i have thought about what it would be like if i was a female hikki obviously female hikkis exist the most famous one probably being Chip Chan but most hikkis are male there was a study that said only 20% of hikikomori are actually female.
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 21:06:22 0ffd20 No. 684
I'm seriously curious:
How would being a girl make becoming a hikki less likely?
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 21:12:58 3c4703 No. 686
>>684
Actually that is a very good question.
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 22:02:39 94b819 No. 688
Girls literally play life on easy mode. Who wouldn't want to be one?
I don't like cock though,
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 22:38:59 3c3f30 No. 689
Nah not really, I could do all the shit I wanted to do as a girl in like an hour with a laptop and some privacy.
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 22:42:08 3c4703 No. 690
>>689
>I could do all the shit I wanted to do as a girl in like an hour with a laptop and some privacy.
Same here also that pic is hilarious.
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 22:48:28 69b49f No. 691
>just ordered the strongest does of female hormone pills in 9bottles with a total of 540pills that have a total of 6750mg!
it says take 2 a day.
people that have taken this have grown Acups within a few weeks.
imagine how big i will get when all the bottles are gone.
heh.
death by pleasure/suffocation under my own weight?
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Hikki 10/09/17 (Mon) 23:45:53 5ead2d No. 692
i like wearing girl socks and shaving my legs, mostly just wish i didn't have body hair
>>691
good luck, anon, hope you don't regret it later
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Hikki 10/10/17 (Tue) 00:18:45 3c3f30 No. 694
>>690
Arino is great, Game Center CX is alot of fun to watch.
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Hikki 10/10/17 (Tue) 00:36:12 2e957c No. 696
I have never had the desire to be a female. Sure, I've thought about what it would be like, but I have never actually wished I was a girl. When I think about what it would be like to be a girl, I think about:
>periods/PMS
>lack of physical strength
>the passive-aggressive attitude females often have toward one another
>being subject to wild, unpredictable waves of emotion
It simply isn't for me. What surprises me though, is that I always come across men on the internet who either wish they were females, or think about homosexual experimentation, such as an expressed desire to suck another man's dick. I've never had these feelings, I've always accepted that I am a straight male, and I have no real desire to be anything other than what I am. It's just another one of those subjects where I don't really fit in with anyone, it can't be helped I guess.
>>684
Well, for one thing, being even relatively attractive can draw hordes of people to you, making it harder to settle into reclusive behavior. Why retreat from society when so many people are willing (sometimes practically begging) to love you? Aside from that, hikikomoris – from my understanding – are often made that way through rejection by their peers at an early age, often to traumatizing levels. I think it's a bit different for girls though. Women have been bullying the shit out of each other since the dawn of the first civilizations, it's a mating strategy to ensure that a woman's competitors are discouraged from stealing her potential husband. With that in mind, I think they have built up an advanced evolutionary tolerance to that kind of disapproval from others. I could be wrong, of course, but that's just my take on the matter.
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Hikki 10/10/17 (Tue) 01:46:48 3c4703 No. 703
>>694
>This whole time i thought the owner was watching me from there but its Colonel Sanders
This made my night.
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Hikki 10/10/17 (Tue) 04:47:46 4aa0b7 No. 715
>do any other hikkis wish you were girls? i do. i wouldn't be a hikki then.
Why not just get a sex change then? unless you have other reasons for being hikikomori besides your sexuality?.
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Hikki 10/10/17 (Tue) 13:52:43 0f29f2 No. 740
I don't know when it started for me but it was a life long desire for sure. At some point in early childhood I became jealous of the girls. It seemed like they had it so much better. For example, I recall having to defend myself every day on the play ground from bullies and watching the same kids that'd torment us treat the girls with kindness. It went beyond that though, the girls were allowed to participate in activities we weren't, they got to wear cute clothes that were unacceptable for the boys, they got a free pass when it came to doing hard work or study. It seemed like they could just say "tee hee anon I don't know" and be allowed to go off and have fun while the boys were sent to suffer in the fields. I recall begin very pissed when I was no longer allowed to help my Great Grandmother cook meals (around age 4) because it was time to go and learn how to do real work.
By the time I got to middle school I was living my own private life when not around society or my parents. I couldn't wait until the nights came where I was alone. I'd avoid sleeping just to play out fantasy's in my head where I had the power to change form or jump into the minds of others and control their bodies. Unlike most faggots I see that desire begin the other sex I never wanted it to attract or have sex with me. I wanted to be a woman so I could be around women. I wanted to have sex with women as a woman. I wanted to dress up frilly outfits just to walk in public while on lookers gawked and showered me with affection. I wanted to be noticed instead of begin another face in the crowd.
It got really bad at some point in there. By grade 7 I was check myself checking to make sure I wasn't transforming in the middle of class. No doubt the constant touching of my own hair/body caught the attention of class mates. I also became more withdrawn at that point. I went from an outgoing kid who was friends with most everyone to having only a couple of friends and begin the weird kid. It was around this time (in 1996) that I dived head first into early web/internet culture. I no longer liked or paid attention in school despite scoring the highest grades on any test they'd give us. I no longer did home work or class work. I could sail through a test simply because I'd either saw or read the material elsewhere and as soon as I read something one time I understood it and could recall it perfectly.
By the time high school rolled around I was 100% checked out and still living out those fantasies every night. I desired to have sex and form a relationship with a girl but I was so far away from what normal was by that point that I found it impossible. I left high school at age 15 never to return and got my GED. A year later I would enter college hoping things would get better but they didn't so I dropped out of it as well. At home I was working on a piece of software used all over the world and had been placed into a (paid) admin position within the community for 5 years by that point. Why did I need school? I was already employed and I'd already changed the world. The only goal I really wanted was unobtainable.
Now, as an adult, I've had sex enough that I know it isn't anything as mind blowing as I thought it would be. I bore quickly of any woman I take to bed and push them away as quickly as I find interest in them. I project a facade to the world of begin all man despite these feelings still begin buried deep within me. I also came to realize that begin the other sex wouldn't have really matters, yes, women have life on easy mode but they also live life in a horrible way. There is no such thing as true friendship or trust between women and they'll take any chance to talk shit about their so-called friends as soon as they are out of ear shout. Not to mention all the ones that end up ugly, fat, or otherwise bad in the eyes of society. They're so pumped up full of drugs (birth control) and covered in so many chemicals (make-up) that they don't even know themselves or what true inner peace is.
I'm in my 30s now and while I'd still jump at the chance to have a power/mind switching machine I wouldn't want to stay that way permanently. I'd probably bore of begin in another body rather quickly and would end up switching it up daily or weekly.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 01:06:46 7fb9bf No. 761
>>684
Women can't live alone or else they go nuts. This is why most of them are not hikki. Unlike men mentality, there are room for self learning despite being alone which women are uncapable of.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 14:58:18 594da2 No. 780
>>761
can you give me any scientific literature to back it up?
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 15:54:01 7fb9bf No. 785
>>780
Look around, women always have 1 or 2 friends where they can cling with. Female hikki are almost non existance. They are socialized type of being that are better than men.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 19:14:48 73bfc9 No. 795
You hear the joke about the guy who got a sex change?
Afterward his friends asked him what botherd him most about the operation?
He said; nothing really everything went pretty smooth. When they cut off your dick it didn't bother you…No, with the pain killer I didn't feel a thing.
After thinking about it for some time he finally answered.
Well, when they opened up my skull and removed half of my brain, that took a while to get used to.
Lol
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 19:29:29 ffb260 No. 797
>>785
but is there any scientific research to prove that?
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 21:34:10 f6bb7f No. 810
>>785
I'm a female, and I've never had friends in my life.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 21:45:42 2eab48 No. 813
I don't wish I was a girl but they definitely have always had life the easiest, even ugly women are born with a certain capital/guarantee in life. 7/10+ women are basically 6 digit income+ with no work except genetic blessings. Women are never homeless, never shut ins. No matter how much they fail there is always someone to help a woman. Women are also incapable of the same kind of feelings as men, they don't love as hard, they basically have no introspection. I think they're a sort of base and incomplete human that was only designed to reproduce and was left out many phenomenological aspects because it would interfere with reproductive success since they human species can survive easily even if 80% of men were worthless hikkis.
I don't think I'm a misogynist, but I do have a resentment towards women from my own experiences with them. Coming from a broken human as a neglected male meant my life was doomed from the start and no women wanted anything serious from me, including women who cheated on their husbands with me but never wanted anything more because the older male they were with had a job and provided them stability and money while they accused me of being lazy and worthless while they are basically parasites.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 21:47:14 4d7c09 No. 814
I want to be a cute 2D girl
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 21:57:26 3c4703 No. 818
>>813
>Women are never homeless, never shut ins
>Never shut ins
What about pic related?? shes a female hikki and actually the most famous one too.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 21:59:23 2eab48 No. 820
>>818
It's an anomaly, and I wouldn't even count her as a shut-in because like you said she's famous and I bet she gets a lot of money just for being a woman. No one would make any man on this board famous and in fact curse our existence as defects.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 22:25:14 3c4703 No. 824
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>820
>It's an anomaly, and I wouldn't even count her as a shut-in because like you said she's famous and I bet she gets a lot of money just for being a woman
Not really the only reason people know who she is is because Chip Chan has been live streaming herself everyday since 2009 24/7 i mean shes not a celebrity or anything the internet just knows of her existence.
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Hikki 10/11/17 (Wed) 22:29:43 2eab48 No. 826
>>824
Well I think it's pretty standard female behavior to attention whore like that, so she gets a lot more attention than the standard recluse. Personally I don't think this is hikki behavior, but either way she's a small, small minority. In the west it's unheard of too. For myself, I have absolutely no friends and if I died it would take weeks of decomposition for the stench to get bad enough to where someone would discover I even died. Then I would have no one to come to my funeral if they even bothered holding one.
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Hikki 10/12/17 (Thu) 00:39:52 2e957c No. 839
>>824
>>826
>Personally I don't think this is hikki behavior
I have to agree. It seems like quite a contradiction for a recluse to put their lives on display like that. I put tape over the webcam on my laptop because the thought of even one person watching me is unsettling, so I can't even begin to imagine live-streaming myself on the internet constantly.
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Hikki 10/12/17 (Thu) 00:51:59 3c4703 No. 841
>>839
>>826
I agree that isn't hikki behavior however the part that does make her a hikikomori is the fact that she has been shut inside her home since 1999 and only goes out for food.
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Hikki 10/13/17 (Fri) 16:05:07 99a9fa No. 921
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 09:39:58 319759 No. 942
Today I decided I don't want to be a man anymore.
I don't want to spend a fortune on transgender treatment however. Would female birth control pills work?
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 09:56:46 319759 No. 943
>>740
>the girls were allowed to participate in activities we weren't
>they got to wear cute clothes
I'm honestly beginning to think that I would have never fallen into this had I attended a gender neutral kindergaten (you know, where boys and girls do everything together). Those were the exact same thoughts as a child that pushed me into the mess I am now.
Liking dick is supposedly genetic though, so that can't be helped. But at least I would be comfortable being a guy.
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 09:59:06 3c4703 No. 944
>>942
>I don't want to spend a fortune on transgender treatment
Oh than that answers my question from >>715
>Would female birth control pills work?
Not sure to be honest but what i have heard from other people in the past many years back they probably could.
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 10:17:18 319759 No. 945
>>944
>that answers my question from >>715
Also some people prefer to keep their dicks and never get surgery. Traps can make loads of $$ in porn (I imagine), but idk about post-ops.
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 11:43:54 ee70d2 No. 948
>>688
>Girls literally play life on easy mode
What about pain in childbirth? and apart from that it depends which country: there are plenty of countries that don't allow women basic rights
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 12:32:48 2eab48 No. 949
>>948
Most physical pain heals and goes away, childbirth is short, emotional pain of being a hikki never goes away. Also, the 3rd worlds where women live a shitty life are shit for everyone, men are mired in constant warfare there and have to deal with worrying about being executed for not believing in some ancient sandnigger religion.
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 12:54:48 43f651 No. 951
>>948
Not the person you were responding to, but when it comes to life your fundamental needs are food, water, heat and shelter. There are definitely things that are much harder for woman to attain in life, but the basic needs that are required to support and continue life are very easy for them to obtain. When people talk about women playing life on easy mode I believe they're referring to the fact that continued existence is essentially guaranteed at birth, whereas a man has to be able to provide not only for himself but also for others in addition to defending women whenever conflict arises. I'm not talking about modern day shit or social changes, just the raw facts of how and why we lasted this long. Globally the majority of women are treated like second class citizens from a social standpoint. Men, however, ARE second class citizens from an evolutionary standpoint. Men are expendable and are expected to support themselves and other people lest they lose their value in the eyes of others. This is something that I'm sure other male hikikomori have observed firsthand.
Men are required to adapt to their environment and their surroundings. It's a survival instinct and also the reason that we outlived other species to survive this long. It's true that modern society is shaped by and for men, but it's not some sinister plot or scheme being cooked up by shady figures in the shadows. It's just how humanity has survived. When you want safety you have to give up freedom for it. If you join a tribe for safety, you have to live by their laws. Join a country? Live by their laws. If you seek shelter under a greater force for the sake of safety, you have to live by their rules. Society adapted to increase the amount of safety that large communities had, which then filters down to smaller groups within the community, which then filters down to the family group which historically was led by the father in the family. Thus society was structured so that each group followed the rules of a stronger group in exchange for safety.
I won't get into things like 'equality' in modern day society as frankly I think it's far too complex for someone like myself that is completely isolated and has no real experience in it. All i know is that as soon as something major goes wrong, like a world war or a pandemic level event, then social rules crumble and everyone relies on men to fix everything again whilst things that don't truly matter to our continued survival fall by the wayside.
tl;dr Life on easy mode refers to how hard it is to survive, not the potential quality of the life you could live.
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 17:17:55 2e957c No. 958
>>942
>Today I decided I don't want to be a man anymore.
The way you put it, it sort of sounds like a snap-decision. Why don't you want to be a man anymore? How would it change your life as a hikikomori?
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 19:19:18 a77af3 No. 959
>>942
It depends, how old are you now?
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Hikki 10/14/17 (Sat) 19:42:32 43f651 No. 960
>>942
Is it being a 'man' that you don't like, or being a male? I'm not trying to get into gender identity or anything, but rather the physical state of being a male compared to the expectations that are associated with being a 'man'. Maybe if you really work through it and identify the root of your problem you can start to develop a plan to break out of being a hikikomori and working towards a future where you're comfortable enough with yourself to go outside again.
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Hikki 10/16/17 (Mon) 11:55:03 383fff No. 999
>>959
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>>958
>>960
I was just having a bad day. It's stupid to think being a girl would solve my problems.
And now that you mention, you're right, I dislike being a 'man', not necessarily being male. Countless hours psychoanalizing myself, and this somehow eluded me. Meh. I guess that's why they say introspection is useless.
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Hikki 10/16/17 (Mon) 19:16:14 2e957c No. 1002
>>999
>I was just having a bad day. It's stupid to think being a girl would solve my problems.
Don't sweat it, we've all been there, searching for the quick-fix to our problems. It is important to remember not to make decisions based on impulse, as it can quickly make a bad situation worse. Impulsiveness is modus operandi of normalfags, after all.
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Hikki 10/17/17 (Tue) 08:46:07 3c4703 No. 1030
>>999
>I was just having a bad day. It's stupid to think being a girl would solve my problems.
Don't beat yourself up anon we all have bad days and like >>1002 said we have all been there, searching for the quick-fix to our problems.
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Hikki 10/17/17 (Tue) 11:26:07 7a48dc No. 1038
If it was possible to become a 100% girl, I'd go for it. Sadly, we all know what happens to people trying to be the little girl
I see there's a lot of people actually trying/tried it, how did it go, just for curiosity sake? Do you actually look cute?
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Hikki 10/17/17 (Tue) 23:57:07 4b71f7 No. 1053
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Hikki 10/18/17 (Wed) 20:24:01 86ef00 No. 1079
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引きこもり 10/20/17 (Fri) 15:02:30 dbdc44 No. 1151
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引きこもり 10/22/17 (Sun) 15:50:06 a0e66b No. 1208
when i was in college i said i wished i was a girl and ppl laughed at me
ehh
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引きこもり 10/22/17 (Sun) 23:46:16 98527e No. 1215
>>1208
>when i was in college i said i wished i was a girl and ppl laughed at me
>ehh
Well fuck them
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引きこもり 11/01/17 (Wed) 21:30:07 73e997 No. 1485
I do, but it's kind of a weird topic for me. When I was like 8 I crossdressed and was dancing in a dress and then my father found me and beat the shit out of me (it wasn't anything that bad, but for my age it really hurt) then locked me in the laundry room for like an hour.
Kind of thankful. I would hate to be one of the trannies you find online. They seem so fucking empty and soulless.
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引きこもり 11/02/17 (Thu) 15:11:19 e0ea4d No. 1496
>>1485
>Kind of thankful. I would hate to be one of the trannies you find online. They seem so fucking empty and soulless.
Most definitely. What your dad did may seem harsh to most, but it was probably the right thing to do. It may often seem like becoming a girl will magically solve everything, but it never will. I think it's best to just accept who you are and try to make the best of it. I feel sorry for the transsexuals. They try so hard to recreate themselves in an attempt to find happiness, only to find that they've altered themselves in a way that can't easily be undone. I can't imagine what it's like living through that.
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引きこもり 11/02/17 (Thu) 23:55:45 0c5c27 No. 1505
>>1485
>>1496
Yeah your dad did the right thing. I got my wake up call standing in a parking lot waiting for some old fat guy I met on Craigslist to pick me up and make me feel like a girl. I was 17 wearing my sister's panties waiting for this stranger to cum on/in me. Realized this and ran home.
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引きこもり 11/03/17 (Fri) 18:54:45 e0ea4d No. 1519
>>1505
Most stories that I read about involving Craiglist meetups never seem to end well. It's always someone getting robbed, murdered, or put in a traumatizing situation. Glad you came to your senses before you got hurt.
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引きこもり 11/06/17 (Mon) 07:41:51 6baf52 No. 1574
>>945
>Also some people prefer to keep their dicks and never get surgery. Traps can make loads of $$ in porn (I imagine)
Isn't chicks with dicks a very popular porn search result??.
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引きこもり 11/07/17 (Tue) 05:09:51 d1876a No. 1588
I kind of like trapping, but I wouldn't want to be a girl. When I did it online or told IRL friends about it, they'd get extremely creepy & treat me like a sex object, or only do nice things for me in exchange for lewd shit (I never did because kissless virgin.)
I did it because being a skinny effeminate manlet got me the same kinda attention (as well as the nonfetish general type of negative attention any given manlet can expect), from any gender. Not to stroke my own dick, but I was pretty convincing if I tried hard enough. It was a lot of fun sometimes.
But in the end, it was just as soulless as any other interaction. Plus, because I didn't want any sex, I'd worry about getting negative backlash. You know, like in every trap rape doujin ever.
I imagine being an actual girl might be even worse. But I absolutely understand why a lot of you would enjoy it for real.
Maybe give trapping a try for a fun in-between if you aren't willing to do the sex change hormone thing. Amazon gives discreet shipping & has a ton of cheap, cute clothes in tons of sizes. So does Bodyline.
Sometimes it's fun to be someone other than yourself.
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引きこもり 11/07/17 (Tue) 13:46:06 49fe72 No. 1591
I'd only be a girl if it meant that I keep my dick. Can't imagine masturbating without my penis.
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引きこもり 11/07/17 (Tue) 13:54:38 74f115 No. 1592
>>1079
tl;dr: Watching lesbian porn makes you want to become the little girl.
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引きこもり 11/07/17 (Tue) 14:42:06 49fe72 No. 1593
>>1053
You can tell the person who wrote this is a failed virgin closet homosexual who is projecting.
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引きこもり 11/07/17 (Tue) 22:02:28 6baf52 No. 1595
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引きこもり 11/07/17 (Tue) 23:53:59 2969ea No. 1598
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 02:42:06 2aa038 No. 1604
Thinking about this seriously, but I would imagine it would suck a little as being a grill hikki (speaking hypothetically)
Because every single women out there is mostly normals who talk about 3dpd shit 24/7. Not to mention most women are psychopathic cunts who will try to use other women below them or push them down by force.
And most hikkis have problems that are almost impossible to solve like mental illness, tramua, etc. and she can't magically make it go away in order to fit in with the others.
So the girl hikki will try to go to a more male dominant space like wizardchan but when she accidentally opens her mouth one day about specific problems only girls can have (like the problem I mentioned before), she'll get perma banned by mods in and instant. To go on a tangent, not saying this is a bad thing because like I said, 99.999% out there are attention whoring normals.
I mean obvious solutions would be to just mask herself, but I don't think anyone would be happy doing that all the time.
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 02:49:26 6baf52 No. 1605
>>1604
> I would imagine it would suck a little as being a grill hikki (speaking hypothetically)
As far as i know only 20% of hikikomori are female most are male like everyone on here.
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 02:55:45 5cf0e5 No. 1606
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 16:21:33 0a5a44 No. 1611
i just wish i could get rid of my body hair permanently
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 19:03:04 6baf52 No. 1614
>>1611
>i just wish i could get rid of my body hair permanently
Why not just shave it off??.
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 21:14:02 4eab51 No. 1615
>>1604
I don't know if there are any female hikkis on here, but if there are, I would treat them with the same kindness as any hikki on here. I would have to imagine that being a female hikikomori comes with its own set of challenges. Most women live life on easy mode, we all know this, but if a girl were to feel that they were unworthy of the social benefits that come with being a girl, thus feeling so far beneath other girls that they withdraw from society, that must be very painful.
>>1614
Well, he did say permanent. I suppose the hair could be lazered off, but I doubt any of us here have the money for that.
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 22:34:15 6baf52 No. 1617
>>1615
>I don't know if there are any female hikkis on here, but if there are, I would treat them with the same kindness as any hikki on here
Same here
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 23:13:30 0a5a44 No. 1620
If there are any girls on here, they shouldn't bring it up. I have nothing but love for Tomoko but 3D girls will do to this place what they did to /r9k/. It wasn't long ago people
>>1614
I do all the time. But i'm covered in hair and it's so disgusting. It's the number 1 thing i hate about my body and it's a constant battle just to feel mildly comfortable. I have dad-bod levels of hair and i'm in my early 20s. I've honestly considered getting some HRT that won't make me grow tits off the internet just to combat my body hair. I know that's extreme but it's something that really takes a toll on me emotionally.
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 23:16:11 0a5a44 No. 1621
damn i didn't finish my post sorry
>>1620
>I have nothing but love for Tomoko but 3D girls will do to this place what they did to /r9k/. It wasn't long ago people-
were arguing whether or not females could be robots and now there are constant threads with 30yo women talking about getting dick on the weekends.
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引きこもり 11/08/17 (Wed) 23:24:06 6baf52 No. 1622
>>1621
>and now there are constant threads with 30yo women talking about getting dick on the weekends.
/r9k/ got ruined big time.
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引きこもり 11/09/17 (Thu) 00:28:46 d1876a No. 1626
>>1620
As long as 3Dgirl hikkis don't want attention just for being girls/don't respond to thirst, I don't mind listening to them. I'm personally curious about how different or same a girl hikki might live/suffer compared to male ones. Same goes for any trannski or trap hikkis.
So long as the specifics are kept to appropriate threads, I'd like to think a fake hikki girl would get banned for talking about dick or begging for eDick. There's no reason to bring up gender unless it really matters for the topic.
On the topic of HRT, I'm afraid that most of that shit gives tits at the strength needed to combat body hair. Laser treatment would probably be a better option. I knew a guy who got rid of his facial hair that way in just a session or two. But he's also a rich IT guy, so I dunno how much a whole body would cost.
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引きこもり 11/09/17 (Thu) 00:58:17 0a5a44 No. 1628
>>1626
>As long as 3Dgirl hikkis don't want attention
If we're being realistic the only reason to bring it up is for attention. But we do have a mod who doesn't seem like a cuck when it comes to this stuff so it would probably be okay here if it ever happened. I would also be interested to hear things from a female perspective. The few times i've read female loser stories it's pretty rough because for them to get put down their situation is really fucked because they do live life on easy mode.
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引きこもり 11/09/17 (Thu) 01:00:29 6baf52 No. 1629
>>1626
>As long as 3Dgirl hikkis don't want attention just for being girls/don't respond to thirst, I don't mind listening to them. I'm personally curious about how different or same a girl hikki might live/suffer compared to male ones. Same goes for any trannski or trap hikkis.
Same here and agreed.
>So long as the specifics are kept to appropriate threads, I'd like to think a fake hikki girl would get banned for talking about dick or begging for eDick. There's no reason to bring up gender unless it really matters for the topic.
You are correct anon i would absolutely ban them 1. for being a fake hikki and 2. for being an attention whoring normalfag who doesn't belong here.
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引きこもり 11/09/17 (Thu) 03:56:17 4eab51 No. 1633
>>1620
>I have dad-bod levels of hair and i'm in my early 20s
I'm 25 and I know that feel. My facial hair grows pretty quickly, I have hair on my chest, stomach, shoulders, and back. My legs are covered in thick hairs, and I even have hair on my fingers and toes. On top of that, my grandfather went bald, my uncle went bald, and my dad is currently going bald. I have come to accept the fact that I will look like a bearded Bill Dauterive by the time I am 50.
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引きこもり 11/09/17 (Thu) 04:10:40 0a5a44 No. 1634
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引きこもり 11/18/17 (Sat) 04:17:06 6baf52 No. 1861
>>740
> I recall having to defend myself every day on the play ground from bullies and watching the same kids that'd torment us treat the girls with kindness
This also happened to me.
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引きこもり 11/19/17 (Sun) 02:21:17 1ba475 No. 1867
>>715
>Why not just get a sex change then?
Not a thing
And even if you fall for this self harm scheme you are now required to go out to some degree and you can kiss goodbye to any semblance of mood stability
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引きこもり 11/19/17 (Sun) 05:43:40 6baf52 No. 1872
>>1867
>even if you fall for this self harm scheme you are now required to go out to some degree and you can kiss goodbye to any semblance of mood stability
I see what you mean.
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引きこもり 11/20/17 (Mon) 06:27:09 84672b No. 1900
>>1633
Me mom discovered I shaved my stomach hair once. She straight up pulled my shirt up and asked wtf happened to my hair.
She knows I'm weird (duh), but not *that* weird. If she only knew the kind of stuff I'm into…
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引きこもり 11/20/17 (Mon) 19:09:09 0dea7a No. 1907
>>1900
what kind of stuff?
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引きこもり 11/20/17 (Mon) 19:26:19 487db5 No. 1908
I wish I was a homo. I really do (not a trap)
Men trying to be women are already better than women themselves
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引きこもり 11/20/17 (Mon) 20:50:23 6baf52 No. 1909
>>1908
>Men trying to be women are already better than women themselves
I can agree with that.
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引きこもり 11/23/17 (Thu) 13:54:55 2d9ee6 No. 1961
>>1908
Seriously, I am reaching a point where I no longer care. If anyone wanted to pretend to be a girl to erp or just talk I 'd probably go for it
I am so tired, anything must be better than this
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引きこもり 11/23/17 (Thu) 17:16:00 c20b62 No. 1964
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引きこもり 11/24/17 (Fri) 23:07:50 2d9ee6 No. 1974
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引きこもり 11/25/17 (Sat) 05:02:03 2c4392 No. 1982
>>810
I'll be your friend.
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引きこもり 11/25/17 (Sat) 22:23:11 4eab51 No. 1990
>>1908
>>1961
I feel the same way sometimes. The thought of being loved and cherished by another person becomes so appealing at times, that I would accept it from nearly anyone. But at the end of the day, I couldn't really be gay. I've even tested the waters a few times. I tried to look at gay porn and even tried to stimulate my prostate to see if I would enjoy any of it. I didn't. In reality, none of it matters anyway. I'm an anti-social hikikomori with social-anxiety and trust issues, so I would never be able to get close to anyone even if I wanted to.
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引きこもり 11/28/17 (Tue) 01:18:29 9171d2 No. 2023
>>1974
they focus on appearance and i despise that
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引きこもり 11/28/17 (Tue) 14:28:46 c3756a No. 2027
>>1908
Fun fact, every male is born with female organ inside their body. Take your under developed uterus for an example. Yes, you can actually achieve female orgasm if your internal g-spot is stimulated lol. This is why trans don't care that much about their male private part because technically, male have a V behind their dick. Pic related.
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引きこもり 11/29/17 (Wed) 03:16:54 c5f08a No. 2037
Yeah… I kind of think being born female would have led to much fewer social issues for me. Girls/women just seem to have easier and to be able to behave more intuitively socially while getting more social support than men/boys. I always observed my sister had an easier time growing up and I'll note my own issues is the entire reason my parents decided to pull both of us out of school to be homeschooled. I had really bad anxiety in elementary school was the reason for that. She went back to public school for highschool while a I didn't and I basically has zero friends growing up.
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引きこもり 11/29/17 (Wed) 03:47:35 7a8867 No. 2038
>>2037
>Girls/women just seem to have easier and to be able to behave more intuitively socially while getting more social support than men/boys.
This is so true though what do you think about female hikkis??.
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引きこもり 11/29/17 (Wed) 04:05:56 c5f08a No. 2039
>>2038
I'd argue that females are probably rarer simply because they're going to be better socialized and better at socializing with better support networks. It's kind of the same reason autism is more commonly diagnosed in males, not only is it rarer in females, but the ones that do have it are better at compensating for it due to women being more geared for social activity.
It's sort of like women get a bonus to their Charisma stat so they get a buffer to mental illnesses that affect social interaction.
But, as far as female shut ins go, as long as they aren't trying to draw attention to themselves because of their gender, I'm fine with them. Way to many women on the internet are attention whores.
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引きこもり 11/29/17 (Wed) 04:18:05 7a8867 No. 2040
>>2039
>But, as far as female shut ins go, as long as they aren't trying to draw attention to themselves because of their gender, I'm fine with them. Way to many women on the internet are attention whores.
I think females in general like validation and attention sure not all females are attention whores but you're absolutely right way too many women on the internet are attention whores why do you think a female hikki like chip chan does her online streams even though her health has been declining? it's because she likes the attention she gets from people online.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 08:05:47 dba986 No. 2098
I'm a cute woman and I'm still a hikki.
If anything, going outside is WORSE because people actually try to talk to you/touch you/sit next to you which fuels the everliving shit out of my paranoia. Hence, stuck in the same room for two years.
It's bad.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 09:30:47 6baf52 No. 2101
>>2098
>, going outside is WORSE because people actually try to talk to you/touch you/sit next to you which fuels the everliving shit out of my paranoia. Hence, stuck in the same room for two years.
>
>It's bad.
I know how you feel.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 18:37:11 0a5a44 No. 2165
>>2098
>people actually try to talk to you/touch you/sit next to you
I never thought about this, but that must be hell. At least as an ugly male i can just ghost most of the time when i'm in public.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 19:33:27 4eab51 No. 2168
>>2098
>people actually try to talk to you/touch you/sit next to you which fuels the everliving shit out of my paranoia
I know that feel. I'm a decent-looking guy I suppose, I keep myself clean, so I guess people think I'm approachable. So when I used to go out places, people would sometimes try to talk to me and I would get really suspicious and think 'what do they want from me?' or 'are they trying to screw with me? I bet this is some kind of cruel joke.' I hated it. Now on the occasions that I do have to go out for food and the like, I usually keep my head down, or I try to appear slightly angry so no one talks to me.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 21:34:34 6baf52 No. 2171
>>2165
> At least as an ugly male i can just ghost most of the time when i'm in public.
I do this as well on the few occasions i do go outside like for food when there isn't very many people around but if there is a large amount of people my anxiety flares up.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 21:54:02 1ca26a No. 2174
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>785
>>797
>>810
There are genuinely reclusive women, but they're exceptionally rare. First off, women are communal reasoners. You can see this in the accident experiments that happen when they do Gender War seasons of shows like Survivor; the women will attempt to decide literally everything by committee, to a detrimental degree, and nothing gets done because they need 95%+ consensus on an action. This is probably due to survival instincts having been developed so women are in charge of parceling out what is available, ensuring everyone gets enough. You can actually see this in voting statistics as well; it's overwhelmingly women that vote for centralized distribution of wealth, be it socialistic policies or egalitarian structures. The long and short of it is that women are highly communal. A woman with strong maternal instincts that can't have children finds various coping mechanisms to deal with their need for attachment. A healthier strategy might be something like becoming a schoolteacher and living vicariously through other peoples' children. The far end of unhealthy is the well known Crazy Cat Lady phenomenon. The worst of all worlds is the Oedipal Mother, who has children and then sabotages them into being unable to achieve independence because her own self-value is dependent on their dependence on her. That kind of parasitic upbringing seems particularly common among imageboard-goers, which I find fascinating.
Men are not quite the opposite, because we're still members of a social mammal species, but we have way more individual will, volition, and initiative. One of the direct chemical effects of testosterone is it makes you more likely to engage in high-risk high-reward behavior, because men have to go out and attack problems, whereas womens' evolutionary role is to stay home and manage known problems like distribution and caretaking. We're also more interested in small, very tightly knit networks of associates and have developed a sense that seems almost unique to the male sex, which we call camaraderie. Out of that stems honor, and from that, society. Law is the final codified version of that Brothers-in-Arms instinct. Every single step along that route is just increasingly elaborate means of resolving the problem of "I have a deadly or too large task in front of me; who can I get to help me that won't backstab me?"
The recent advent of Jordan Peterson's popularity has made accessible university-level knowledge more or less confirming what has always been known about the differences between men and women, especially how they rank apart from eachother on personality types. Women are significantly more agreeable, for example, a side effect of being the evolutionary half that did the least adventurous tasks and therefore needed to be tolerable to have around to the actual provider.
We aren't quite slaves to our biology, but we're something pretty close to serfs. Here's a neat little rant about how women lose the desire to compete in a way men don't.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 21:58:11 6baf52 No. 2175
>>2174
>There are genuinely reclusive women, but they're exceptionally rare
As far as i know only 20% of hikikomori are female.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 22:50:34 c5f08a No. 2177
>>2174
>>2175
Well again, women are more social and have better support networks. Remember, men are the disposable gender. Men are much more likely to be dumped by the way side or ignored if we're not directly useful to society. Just being female is a huge survival advantage in the world because it means someone is more likely to care about and help you. The current state of things in the world, feminine things seem to be much more valued than masculine things.
You raised the point that men are more likely to engage in high risk behaviors, in relation to that, a hell of a lot more men are more likely to be the victim of or killed by violence and accidents than women. Men not only make up the majority of prison populations, but women consistently receive lighter sentences for committing the exact same crimes as men on average. Statistics prove this.
That statistics indicate that society not only values the male gender less, but then you have people spouting crap about "patriarchy" and a culture that can make you afraid to touch or approach women out of fear of being labeled a sex offender or rapist, not to mention fifty percent of marriages and in divorce and the majority are initiated by women, and with the narrative of it's all men's fault is just incredibly depressing and makes one not want to participate in relationships. It's easy to see how a guy can develop a sort of nervous/anxious misogyny or envy women and want to be one.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 22:57:28 c5f08a No. 2178
>>2177
And to add to that, divorce laws in first world and developing countries tend to heavily favor the wife/woman which is why you see fewer and fewer men willing to marry or enter serious relationships.
Women complain about "Where have all the good men gone?" when they rating 80% as below average.
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引きこもり 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:57:02 4f85f8 No. 2179
i want to be a cute 2d hikki girl
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引きこもり 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:11:22 6baf52 No. 2180
>>2179
>i want to be a cute 2d hikki girl
Like Kiri Komori from Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei??.
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引きこもり 12/06/17 (Wed) 03:42:00 ac4e7a No. 2242
>>652
Trust me, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
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引きこもり 12/06/17 (Wed) 06:03:34 6baf52 No. 2263
>>2242
>Trust me, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
Are you a girl hikki??.
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引きこもり 12/06/17 (Wed) 15:47:18 f559b6 No. 2276
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引きこもり 12/06/17 (Wed) 16:11:26 65362b No. 2277
>>2276
No malice intended, but I find that (and any other girl, honestly) hard to believe. It must be a really fucked up mental illness that shuts down every social skill entirely, otherwise you could've had all the help needed to have it treated, see all the text walls above
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引きこもり 12/06/17 (Wed) 16:35:09 f559b6 No. 2279
>>2277
You're right, the social anxiety is something I can deal with if I tried, but there's just so many other problems in my life that prevent me from having a normal life or even going outside. My social anxiety is just something that developed over years of being a shut in.
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引きこもり 12/10/17 (Sun) 11:40:31 6baf52 No. 2382
>>839
>>826
>>820
Some of the anons on Hikkichan talk about possibly making money off of doing weird shit live for normies on sites like chaturbate so they don't have to leave their rooms or apartments they also talk about how no hikikomori would ever do this because it would cause us to have a really bad anxiety attack which is true one of the anons on there talks about taking DXM so his anxiety doesn't flare up even though he doesn't realize that that shit is dangerous and that it will kill you.
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引きこもり 12/10/17 (Sun) 14:38:22 ce4942 No. 2383
>>2277
>you could've had all the help needed to have it treated
it applies to males too
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引きこもり 12/10/17 (Sun) 22:34:27 4eab51 No. 2394
>>2382
>one of the anons on there talks about taking DXM so his anxiety doesn't flare up even though he doesn't realize that that shit is dangerous and that it will kill you.
Not only that, but imagine the massive wave of anxiety that would surely come about after sobering up and realizing what he did on the internet in front of countless people. If the drugs didn't kill him, he would probably lose it and kill himself. Sounds like an absolutely disastrous course of action to me.
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引きこもり 12/10/17 (Sun) 22:50:01 6baf52 No. 2395
>>2394
Exactly i mean i understand something like dxm can be a good form of escapism and that may be why some hikkis use it however it has severe consequences honestly if i was in that kind of a situation i probably kill myself too
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引きこもり 01/29/18 (Mon) 22:02:52 ac6df0 No. 4017
>>2037
>>2039
>>2177
>>813
Basically female hikkis aren't very common at all they are only a small percentage and a lot of them are attention whores and if a woman is a hikikomori she isn't gonna be one for very long anyway take Noriko for example the fucking bitch had a Youtube account and all of her 700 subscribers were guys giving her attention.
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引きこもり 01/30/18 (Tue) 00:44:46 829274 No. 4023
>>4017
That's life for a female, all they have to do is show their face on camera, and guys come running. Even the fat and ugly ones get worshiped these days. If they're not incredibly deformed, then they're guaranteed to have at least one guy ready to bend over backwards for them. That's the problem with western society, men put women on a pedestal so often that 95% of women are now entitled cunts, and the remaining 5% are already married. This problem has only been made worse by the internet.
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引きこもり 01/30/18 (Tue) 01:47:22 ac6df0 No. 4025
>>4023
I completely agree with you i mean just look at all the orbiters on 4/r9k/ and 4/b/ the fact of the matter is that women have it a lot easier than men do and both men and women have very different definitions of loneliness. Now to be honest i have no issues with female hikkis posting here but attention whoring is not okay. The fact of the matter is though most hikkis are male and female hikkis are uncommon the idea of a female hikikomori is mostly fiction as seen in anime and manga like Watamote Sayonara zetsubou sensei and Kamisama no Memochou.
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引きこもり 01/30/18 (Tue) 18:29:15 829274 No. 4032
>>4025
That's very true. For most women, loneliness is afternoon at home posting on facebook instead of going out with friends. I think if any of those normalcunts experienced our brand of loneliness for even half a day, they would have a fucking conniption. Most women can never understand us nor do they care to try. That's a big part of why the female hikkis on this board suffered backlash when they started to single themselves out, because it showed a lack of respect for the culture of this place. They have every right to post here, but no right to corrupt the board. You also make a good point about most female hikkis being a fictional idea. When we see characters like Tomoko Kuroki or Kiri Komori, they aren't just girls who spend their time alone, they are girls who truly understand social withdraw and isolation, they understand us. Then you have girls like Ashley Hanrahan (Hikkichan) who are a bit quirky and don't have many friends, but still don't really know what it's like to be isolated. Even when Hikkichan was considered a hikikomori, she still had a couple friends and an internet following, she was never truly alone.
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引きこもり 01/30/18 (Tue) 23:56:12 ac6df0 No. 4036
>>4032
> Most women can never understand us nor do they care to try.
Exactly they always have to make it about themselves.
>They have every right to post here, but no right to corrupt the board.
Agreed.
>When we see characters like Tomoko Kuroki or Kiri Komori, they aren't just girls who spend their time alone, they are girls who truly understand social withdrawal and isolation, they understand us.
Very true and that is why we like them so much also don't forget about Alice from Kamisama no Memochou she considers herself a Neet but she is more of a hikikomori who works from home because technically she is employed.
>Then you have girls like Ashley Hanrahan (Hikkichan) who are a bit quirky and don't have many friends, but still don't really know what it's like to be isolated. Even when Hikkichan was considered a hikikomori, she still had a couple friends and an internet following, she was never truly alone.
Exactly see i don't think hikkis having irl friends is common at all tbh and if a hikki does have that one friend who always sticks by them or a few irl friends who come over to visit the hikki usually doesn't like they're company and exactly she was never completely isolated you can see that through her Facebook pictures though her videos give off the impression that she is extremely isolated that's clearly not the case in reality you know anons on /b/ say that they have contacted her and told her about her blowing up recently according to them she said she thinks it's stupid but i don't buy that tbh i think she likes the attention because she is a total attention whore.
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引きこもり 01/31/18 (Wed) 01:28:58 829274 No. 4038
>>4036
>anons on /b/ say that they have contacted her and told her about her blowing up recently according to them she said she thinks it's stupid but i don't buy that tbh i think she likes the attention because she is a total attention whore.
You're right about that. I wouldn't be surprised if she started to show up even more, maybe even made a new youtube channel. Girls like her crave attention, and in all likelihood, she's probably going to find a way to capitalize on these new developments for her own benefit.
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引きこもり 02/02/18 (Fri) 04:38:32 8e6594 No. 4069
>>4038
> I wouldn't be surprised if she started to show up even more, maybe even made a new youtube channel.
She's already done that but she only post shitty music mashups that she makes herself.
>In all likelihood, she's probably going to find a way to capitalize on these new developments for her own benefit.
God i hope not.
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引きこもり 02/04/18 (Sun) 18:05:21 905f75 No. 4094
>>652
of course
>beeing shy is seen as cute
>beeing passive is kind of expected from you
>not working? no problem, just be a housekeeper
>tons of guys desperate to be with you
>whatever you do is not your responsibility
>mostly get a free pass when you fuck things up
>preferred for anything be it jobs or school in this modern day and age
>society is built around pleasing you
passive guys were probably meant to be girls but god most likely fucked things up
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引きこもり 02/06/18 (Tue) 02:07:47 ac6df0 No. 4124
>>4094
The harsh reality is women have too much power in society and because of that they have life on easy mode and can get away with a lot of things men can't get away with it's also the reason men are being hunted by the system as well.
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引きこもり 03/14/18 (Wed) 09:38:09 fdb35b No. 4749
I'm actually surprised that nobody in this entire thread ever mentioned Ryūnosuke akasaka that one hikikomori trap character from Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo.
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引きこもり 03/15/18 (Thu) 03:53:20 8ab926 No. 4778
>>4094
Surprised no one brought it up but if anything the expectation is for females to be bright happy social butterflies constantly chattering away, the pressure is high, it's more crushing when you are ugly or homely, and it's still possible to fall through the cracks of society by simply never going outside or talking to anyone ever.
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引きこもり 03/15/18 (Thu) 04:40:43 011544 No. 4791
No. I've never met a woman or girl that I liked. I find their personalities and behaviors revolting. Real women are nothing like anime. I do wish I was gay.
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引きこもり 03/15/18 (Thu) 04:57:25 ac6df0 No. 4794
>>4791
>Real women are nothing like anime.
This is true.
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引きこもり 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:32:55 dccd06 No. 4983
I never wanted to be a girl but from 8-13 I was sort of femboy-ish and would wear girl clothes. My family didn't care and my dad would take me to justice to buy me clothes. When I stopped no one cared but no on brings it up either. I'm okay with being a man being a girl is too much work.
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引きこもり 03/26/18 (Mon) 03:43:21 5d4e32 No. 4984
>>4983
>I never wanted to be a girl but from 8-13 I was sort of femboy-ish and would wear girl clothes. My family didn't care
I think we all have done this at some point when we were little.
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引きこもり 03/26/18 (Mon) 04:02:23 dccd06 No. 4985
>>4984
I would exclusively wear girls clothes and have my mom do my hair. When my voice started changing and little hairs were on my crotch I knew my cute days were over and accepted it.
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引きこもり 03/26/18 (Mon) 23:50:56 deadd4 No. 4998
>>652
Being a girl would be nice but i would much rather be a cute prepubescent boy but that might just be wanting to go back to my pre-hikikiomori days
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引きこもり 03/27/18 (Tue) 00:00:34 ac6df0 No. 4999
>>4998
> i would much rather be a cute prepubescent boy but that might just be wanting to go back to my pre-hikikomori days
Same here i've been isolated from society ever since 2007 i was 13 turning 14 in a few months around that time i'm almost 25 now and i've tried many different times to get out of this lifestyle but in the end i always end up back in isolation i do miss my pre-hikikomori years i miss the 90s and early 2000s when i was a little kid i miss the simpler times.
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引きこもり 03/27/18 (Tue) 01:59:38 829274 No. 5010
>>4998
>>4999
I often hear people talk about how much they wish they could be a child again, I've never been able to relate. My childhood wasn't the worst, but I certainly didn't enjoy it. When I was at home, I got screamed at by my dad for just about everything, then spanked with a belt. I was the youngest of three, and my older brother and sister thought that my beatings weren't as severe as theirs, so they made up for it by beating me when my parents weren't looking. Other than that, they just made fun of me or insulted me whenever they could. I spent most of my time alone playing video games, which got me yelled at even more since my parents wanted me to go outside but I didn't really want to. At school, a had a few friends but never got too close to anyone, and even from an early age a lot of kids thought I was weird and avoided me. Also, I almost never invited other kids over to play because I didn't want my parents screaming at me in front of my friends. There's even a lot of memories that I've chosen to repress because I don't want to relive them.
So when the topic of 'I wish I was a kid again' comes up, all I can remember was that I hated my childhood. My adult life may be pretty sad, but I would never want to go back to that time of being helpless, sad, and almost constantly afraid. I'm an adult now (albeit a pitiful one) and I don't ever want to go back.
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引きこもり 03/28/18 (Wed) 02:17:05 87b922 No. 5028
>>1606
Yo, I thought the book sounded interesting so I made a pdf copy (libgen only had epub and mobi and piratebay is shit).
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引きこもり 03/28/18 (Wed) 04:24:29 ac6df0 No. 5029
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引きこもり 03/29/18 (Thu) 04:33:07 98075c No. 5042
I have always been pretty feminine and passive, if not outright submissive. I cross dressed a bit in HS and thought about the whole trans thing, but that seemed so unrealistic for me. So I gave up on those ideas. Past few years I just accepted that i'm a fag. Obviously that doesn't mean much because I was totally isolated and even losing my virginity seemed a million miles away. Anyway i've been slowly recovering from hikki. I've also been posting in gay forums trying to get a feel for like what that might be like in reality. The past week i've been taking this anti-depressant that made me very horny. The combination of all this lead to me downloading Grinder, the gay hookup app.
going to spoil the rest of this
Immediately after throwing up a pic i got a response and then another and another. I assume its just because that's the way the app is, not because i'm anything special. Talked to a guy, said he wanted to show me how to do oral. After about an hour of him convincing me and me nervously cycling from shaking anxiety and the massive boner i had i agreed, he picked me up. Now when talking he got me to admit i have a pet play fetish and him prodding is what made me so horny. When I got in the car i could barely speak. He made me take my shirt off and kissed me which i had never done before. Then he put a collar on me. The entire way to his house he played with my dick and made me touch his. Anyway cut to sucking his dick. He wasn't too forceful or anything it just was nothing like how i imagined. It was still good but i realized this wasn't worth meeting a stranger for immediately. Because i'm so passive and was so nervous all i could say was "yes sir" he ended up fucking my ass. It wasn't terribly painful but it did hurt. Later on he came again in my mouth, we sorta cuddled while trying to get me off. I could barely stay hard and certainly couldn't cum.
I thought someone else touching me would feel really good but it didn't. In fact through the experience I was having to fake a lot of my enjoyment. I realized that i was so starved for human contact that i had forgotten that it was supposed to feel good. It barely registered for me. This guy was fulfilling multiple fantasies for me and i just wanted to go home honestly. The point is, and the reason i'm posting this here, is i honestly don't think we're missing much as far as the sexual market goes. I don't think I would ever do this again. I feel gross afterward and I didn't get much out of it. I don't even think hetero sex with a female would be that great honestly. I mean this guy just wanted to fuck but still wanted to do the whole "so what do you do" social thing. That was the most exhausting part. Maybe it would get better, maybe I can learn to really get into it and actually enjoy myself. But I don't think it's worth it. Being treated like a girl was overrated, sex was overrated.
Sorry for the long blog post, this is just such a day for me and I thought i would share. Also BO you can delete if you feel this is too much for here I will understand.
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引きこもり 03/29/18 (Thu) 13:39:10 6fd932 No. 5043
>>5010
>Other than that, they just made fun of me or insulted me whenever they could. I spent most of my time alone playing video games, which got me yelled at even more since my parents wanted me to go outside but I didn't really want to. At school, a had a few friends but never got too close to anyone, and even from an early age a lot of kids thought I was weird and avoided me.
This is almost word for word what my childhood was like, but add in my parents forcing me to do extracurricular activities which ended up being "bully anon" and the coach/teacher/etc having to talk to my parents about how weird I was and how I make other kids uncomfortable, so please stop sending him
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引きこもり 03/29/18 (Thu) 23:15:19 829274 No. 5049
>>5043
>the coach/teacher/etc having to talk to my parents about how weird I was and how I make other kids uncomfortable, so please stop sending him
That sucks, but I know how you feel. I never really went out of my way to try to make friends, and when I did end up with a few, they didn't want to hang around me very often because I was a bit too strange for them. I don't think I was even that strange really, it was just that I didn't talk much and missed the vast majority of social cues, so any flow or momentum that may have been building up in a given situation collapsed and made the other kids uncomfortable. So after a short time, most kids would give up on me and avoid me. I was often branded as "that kid who never talks" and some of them honestly believed I was mute.
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引きこもり 04/05/18 (Thu) 03:05:37 ac6df0 No. 5123
>>5049
>I don't think I was even that strange really, it was just that I didn't talk much and missed the vast majority of social cues, so any flow or momentum that may have been building up in a given situation collapsed and made the other kids uncomfortable. So after a short time, most kids would give up on me and avoid me.
The same thing actually happened to me.
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引きこもり 04/05/18 (Thu) 12:57:42 b13977 No. 5128
What do you guys think of stuff like this?
https://westspace.org.au/exhi/6991/stay-home-sakoku-the-hikikomori-project
i don't think she really understands what it means to be hikki. she thinks it is about displaying oneself to the world or 'making a statement' or something about life. but i don't think our condition is supposed to be some kind of political statement. she is exploiting.
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引きこもり 04/05/18 (Thu) 23:45:29 829274 No. 5135
>>5128
After reading the title, I was a little put off. After the first paragraph, I wanted to close the page. The premise for this 'project' was just offensive. Sitting in a fake bedroom for a week to experience the life of a hikikomori? That's like dipping your toe in a cup of water to learn how to swim. I don't think much research even went into this beforehand, seems like it was just a shallow publicity stunt. It's even worse that she set it up like a zoo exhibit, as if our lives are a circus spectacle for the sake of amusement. I definitely agree with you anon, this was nothing more than exploitation.
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引きこもり 04/07/18 (Sat) 03:38:56 ac6df0 No. 5151
>>5128
>What do you guys think of stuff like this?
I don't like stuff like this this is another example of the normalfags treating us like lab rats and studying our behavior it honestly fascinates me, the way these people view us. Don't wanna come too close or touch us, might catch something. Just observe us from across the glass, maybe bang on it a couple times you know honestly stuff like this is fucking sickening.
>I don't think she really understands what it means to be hikki. she thinks it is about displaying oneself to the world or 'making a statement' or something about life.
Why is it that a lot of reclusive females feel the need to broadcast themselves to the world?? a great example of this is Chip Chan >>824 the Korean woman who never goes outside except for food and has been live streaming her entire life everyday since 2009 she may be a shut in and never go outside except to buy food but it seems with her it seems that her mental illness was the cause for her withdrawal and not any kind of social or societal failure or bad upbringing so i wouldn't call her a hikikomori by the formal Japanese definition.
>I don't think our condition is supposed to be some kind of political statement.
Agreed however there are people who become NEET or Hikki by choice simply because they don't agree with the rules or expectations of society.
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引きこもり 04/25/18 (Wed) 02:58:45 98075c No. 5385
I thought about HRT for a long time and really empathized with trannies. But i never thought it was for me, I never thought i was one of these crazy trannies. I just didn't like being manly and liked feeling cute. Idk i read this thing
>http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm
and i'm pretty sure i'm a G3. When i think about my childhood and how i felt and still feel it's pretty accurate. I don't know what to do. They say if you don't do something this stuff will only get worse and worse and you lose your chance with every day that passes. I'm very confused and afraid with all of this. Could my depression and stuff actually be because i'm fucked up sexually and repressed that for so long? Or is this some jew shit? fuck i hate feeling like this all confused and lost why cant i just be normal
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引きこもり 04/25/18 (Wed) 22:34:11 98075c No. 5395
>>5385
i requested an appointment for gender stuff at this clinic near me that does that sort of stuff. I figure i'm already on the path to suicide the worst this could do is give me a reason to pull the trigger. I'm told full HRT will give you emotions and allow you to cry. I miss being able to cry so much.
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引きこもり 04/26/18 (Thu) 03:35:07 8ab926 No. 5396
>>5385
Have you considered checking your test levels? Sitting on the internet day in and day out it seems every other man wants to be a girl to get that easy mode in life and they all think the grass is greener on the other side, if you don't go through the suicide you'll end up aging and being some flabby old man with saggy mantits and brittle bones or cancer or whatever the long-term effects of popping hormone pills would be. Be careful to not let your fetish for being a 'cute girl' consume your existence and identity, stay away from sites like tumblr. It's tempting to think that being a girl will somehow solve all your problems but in the end, you'll never truly be a girl, you were not raised as one, you never experienced their childhoods and problems growing up, everyone will know, and most importantly you will still have the same personality, the same habits, and still be the same person.
This is coming from someone who's had online 'friends' who were great up until the point they revealed they were a tranny, from then on their personality changed completely, being a tranny was their only personality trait, and me being silent about their sexual identity trying to treat them like I did before and not constantly praising them/worshipping was seen as me attacking and 'not accepting them for who I am', screeching about pronouns, etc. Can no longer get close to anyone online as a result.
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引きこもり 04/26/18 (Thu) 04:09:13 98075c No. 5397
>>5396
My test levels are actually the problem. I raised them a lot when i fell for the military meme and got kinda /fit/ before all this pain came crashing back into me. The test feels awful or at least that's my perception. I felt better when my test was lower. Luckily i'm not on tumblr or anything like that. I'm a forum with a few people who have done HRT to some degree and are realistic about it. One guy i've been talking to a lot has very similar issues to me and a similar backstory as far as repressing and stuff. He's doing full on HRT but continuing to live as a male. He says it's helping him a lot. I also brought this up to a therapist i'm being forced to see by some family and she seemed receptive in the sense that it probably is a direction worth looking at.
I don't know, anon. All of this is just so fucked. What I would like to happen is the ability to feel emotions again and be somewhat comfortable in my own skin. I really don't even want to dress like a girl or whatever. I certainly wouldn't want to have the surgery that's just insane. I have no intention of LARPing as a female.
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引きこもり 04/26/18 (Thu) 04:14:29 8ab926 No. 5398
>>5397
That's a relief then, good luck with that since I'm not too familiar with those (lack of) feels, What I said still holds for lurkers.
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引きこもり 04/26/18 (Thu) 04:49:07 98075c No. 5399
>>5398
Thanks anon. Still not sure i will go through with any of it but it seems like something worth doing honestly.
Though I do caution anybody else reading to please do the research and go talk to somebody and don't self medicate unless you know exactly what you're doing and know people who have done what you're doing. Reading through all this shit these past few weeks is painful for a lot of reasons but something that got to me was seeing these poor guys getting roped into this thinking they can become a cute trap with HRT and basically destroy their psyche because of it. This stuff isn't a joke it actually alters you a lot and those changes are not just aesthetic.
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引きこもり 12/19/18 (Wed) 00:46:04 c7b476 No. 6792
Firstly, sorry for bumping an old thread, but I need to say this.
GUYS, DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP MEME!!
> It will not make you happy
> It will not make your life easier
> It takes away resources from trans people
> HRT can and will do permanent (and in some cases, irreversible) damage to your body
> HRT WILL GIVE YOU DYSPHORIA IF YOU ARE NOT TRANS
> It's nothing but a degenerate fetish anyway, and you are worth more than that
Combo breaker here, but I am a transman. This means I was born female. But let me tell you, even before I was out of the closet and diagnosed with dysphoria, life was never easy for me.
> family treated me like shit (still does)
> physically and emotionally abused/neglected by parents
> was bullied by whole school just for being the only weeb there
> physically assaulted by literal Chads who were bigger and stronger than me
> developed severe daily panic attacks that led to me to eventually just dropping out of high school altogether
> no friends or emotional support system
> crippling loneliness
And mind you, I was fairly attractive. Easily an 8/10 that people actually wanted to date and fuck (I turned them down due to what I didn't know at the time was dysphoria).
And no, I didn't *choose* to "become a man" because I thought that being male would be easier for me. I've been out for a decade now, and my life in general has only gotten shittier. (Only a small part of that is due to being trans, fyi. The rest is a tragic combination of autistic social skills and bad luck).
I'm not saying that women aren't privileged. That's a filthy feminist lie. But the thing is that you have to be a normie to begin with if you want access to life on Easy Mode.
I would rather not be trans. I would rather just be normal, either as a man or a woman. This is why I can't fathom why anyone would want to put himself through all of this unnecessary torture. Do you really want to sterilize yourself and ruin your own health, all for some nasty IRL dickgirl fetish?
Also, I know that traps are not the same thing as transwomen, but with scumbag fetishists now shilling HRT to impressionable young men, the whole problem definitely affects the trans community now.
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引きこもり 12/19/18 (Wed) 04:35:32 bf7e1e No. 6800
I started horomones a while ago but im too depressed to take care of myself so i look sort of androgynous now
makes my fear of going outside worse because i get called a faggot or something like that pretty often if i ever do (mostly just to go to doctors and stuff about once every couple of months)
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引きこもり SAGE! 12/21/18 (Fri) 09:20:39 8a03ad No. 6815
If you take hormones or believe you are "transgender" you are a normalfag. Trans shit is the most vapid trendy cliqueshit and you belong on twitter or tumblr if you fall for it. Of course it would infest this dead board filled with quirky introverts though.
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引きこもり 12/22/18 (Sat) 02:04:22 eae880 No. 6818
>>6815
You do realize trans content has been on imageboards since 2005 right? also this place has not been infested nor is it dead.
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引きこもり 12/22/18 (Sat) 08:07:35 5a764b No. 6820
>>6818
You do realize things tend to change in over a decade right? He's absolutely right.
Back when the thread was posted I considered posting myself because there were times I wished I was born as a girl in an alternate timeline. Never did I consider taking hormones or getting a sex change because I am 100% a man and take a certain degree of pride in that. Then tranny faggots started to post naive of me to think/hope that wouldn't happen so I fucked off because I refuse to be associated with these degenerates. Point is they may not be infesting the board but but they certainly are infesting this thread and if they post in this thread they will probably post in others, so who knows.
They are exactly like furries hiding behind an idea/mask for their fetishes and form some sort of community around it. tranny conventions wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they aren't a thing already.
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引きこもり 12/24/18 (Mon) 23:26:51 c7b476 No. 6830
>>6815
Real trans people still exist though, and we distance ourselves from the movement because it's nothing but a political movement made to include anyone who wants to feel *special*.
> tranny
> normalfag
Pick one. Normalfags aren't mentally ill.
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引きこもり 12/26/18 (Wed) 17:17:45 cdc5ba No. 6842
>>6830
Well, at least you're self aware.
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引きこもり 12/28/18 (Fri) 02:34:36 6ca67e No. 6845
>>6833
I have to agree. If someone handed me a device or could cast a spell to turn me into an actual woman, I think i'd pay them to stay the fuck away from me. The sickening cattiness and superficiality that permeates most female circles, biological drawbacks (menstruation, hormonal fluctuations, etc.), and unnerving vulnerability to predators and fucking maniacs overshadows any delusions of "Living life on easy mode" in my opinion.
At most I would consider streaming or something to take advantage of the advantages from a distance but even then, where's the dignity in that? Social phobia wrecks havoc on the person I am now, a pair of tits and a pussy would make thngs infinitely worse.
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引きこもり 01/03/19 (Thu) 14:04:41 22d871 No. 6868
>>6845
women can live life on easy mode but they're too stupid to realize it and go seeking drama intentionally.
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引きこもり 01/18/19 (Fri) 09:17:26 39ee7f No. 6917
>>652
Not really but I can see why you may think that. There might be a chance that you would be more social in liberated societies but again the chances are that you'll still be facing similar personal problems and/or new problems as a woman. You might end up as one of those abused woman in relationship(s) with some/several thuggish pavement ape/trailer trash. More social, sure, but still living a different type of a miserable life.
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引きこもり 02/25/19 (Mon) 18:56:58 ce8a0f No. 7102
Old thread, but felt I should give my piece. If you wanted to be a girl since adolescence and are decent looking, do it. I finally did, and it was great. You dont really change that much to be honest. Health & energy has improved if anything. Life doesnt become easy mode either. Same for boy or girl - how much effort you put into your appearance will show in how strangers treat you.
Either way, I agree with OP - if you are what you want to be, then I think you will be more able to face the world outside.
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引きこもり 04/05/19 (Fri) 23:47:27 6a03e7 No. 7305
>>818
>shes a female hikki and actually the most famous one too.
If she were a man she probably won't be as half of famous she is (was).
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引きこもり 04/06/19 (Sat) 06:27:54 1df33a No. 7307
>>7305
>If she were a man she probably won't be as half of famous she is (was).
True.
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引きこもり 04/06/19 (Sat) 17:08:43 d4fbd3 No. 7308
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引きこもり SAGE! 04/07/19 (Sun) 20:10:24 b80881 No. 7314
These types of threads need to be purged before this board is overrun with trannies
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引きこもり 04/08/19 (Mon) 15:42:30 6a03e7 No. 7321
>>7314
You don't need to be a tranny to want to be a girl.
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引きこもり 04/09/19 (Tue) 07:54:00 c9a36d No. 7327
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引きこもり 04/12/19 (Fri) 18:26:22 22d871 No. 7337
young female relative is an absolute tyrant. she's probably going to grow up to be a child murderer. she's being raised by a single mother who wildly vacillates between spoiling her and verbally abusing her, but in modern society where telling a girl no is abuse I don't see what else anyone can do.
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引きこもり 04/13/19 (Sat) 14:59:56 747ef9 No. 7339
>>7337
are you the guy with the fat neice from /b/
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引きこもり 04/27/19 (Sat) 01:01:54 2baf22 No. 7383
>>2174
I'd like to add
[Sapolsky on neurological trauma](https://youtu.be/XvMQQsyPirM )
Due to Estrogen, women seem to be a lot better at tolerating the sort of psychological kettling that you see in groups of female friends where they will dis each-other and aggro on anything taboo relentlessly. In contrast to men, physical aggression seems to be a simpler and more complete solution to this sort of environment. If a man is having a choice of a prolonged conflict that does not challenge their body (physical harm) or take a physical risk and avoid psychological harm, the risk of physical harm will be taken every time.
When you look at sex differences more generally coupled with the hikikomori problem, you observe a complete abuse of male sex differences. The psychological needs of males are completely neglected systemically over the course of childhood and adolescences. In Hikikomori Adolescence Without End it is stated, Hikikomori are more likely to come from middle class, wealthier, educated homes. This trend started in the Boom Economy in Japan and the trend has carried since. This is relevant because you are seeing older parents this model. Parents instinctively have to over-natalize (excessively care for and shelter) because they don't have the option to procreate again and therefore will see the child as made of glass and want to rap it in bubble-rap. Metaphor aside, Hikikomori can be frighteningly summarised as men not being able to develop their
Peterson on bravery (I don't mean to moralise, but these too clips build on each-other very nicely. They're not very long, if you watch then both in order I would recommend that.):
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHkKVMCgXLk
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u427uO_4mw0
Bravery (in the sense of video [1]) and scene of accomplishment which leads to dependence on parents and the home. The lack of bravery, or rather lack of ability to recover from adverse experiences, example bullying or a stressful job, results in a complete retreat back into the over-natalized environment. At the point of retreat (which can happen at any age) symptoms re-surge with a realisation of learned helplessness.
[Sapolsky on Depression Stanford](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc )
[TED adverse childhood experiences](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ovIJ3dsNk )
With an pathology based in early childhood adverse experiences, Hikikomori, sits well with in this category. Rather than the condition being strictly of the individual, it's more a condition developed by a completely counter productive environment to the aim of what can be dubbed in common parlance "being a participating member of society". Subjects who develop Hikikomori come out of a psycho-social environment that rewards docility, complete dependence on care givers, and no adaptive capacity (the ability to grow and recover from adverse experiences). Theses are all hall-marks of the Freudian Devouring Mother Archetype. With Hikikomori you have a situation: a depressive reciting to maternal abuse.
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引きこもり 06/11/19 (Tue) 10:10:02 bddb82 No. 7622
Eh, being/become a girl isn't some guarantee to getting a typical girl personality type. Unless you're absolutely sure all your issues are mainly because of your looks, confirmed by whether you'd also do well in life if only you looked like a chad or whatever, then sure perhaps.
But if it's your personality, trauma, PD's that cause your issues.. You'll just be a female hiki instead then. You won't gain social skills or a personality that takes human interaction any better or is more confident.
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引きこもり 06/11/19 (Tue) 17:48:53 d817f1 No. 7623
>>7622
I think about this kind of thing a lot, because I want to understand the most confusing thing of all, which is everything. I think magically turning into a woman would make some issues even worse. If you want to avoid attention, it's much easier to do so if you're a man. And women have their own unique reasons to be paranoid and insecure. Female bodies also come with their own issues. Grass is greener on the other side because people tend to expose the advantages of being in their own situations, but hide the real downsides, or completely misunderstand them. Women are also glorified way too much, though this doesn't really help them in the end. Their lives will only become more miserable, thanks to this. No one is a winner here. The biggest real advantage is that abnormal women have a lot more value in a way, because they are so uncommon, and scarcity always makes something seem more valuable. Women tend to be average. Men tend to be more experimental, so you get a wider range of results. In general, there is a lot more demand for weird women, just because normalfag men are so thirsty for female attention that they have pretty much no standards beyond appearance (and even those standards are very artificial, in my mind), so it doesn't make a difference, and weird men are considerably more common, and a lot of them want compatible women, so the demand is higher than the supply. A lot of traits that are considered negative by society (because they are associated with men), are actually things that some men want in women, even if they don't realize that, and those traits become valuable just because they are not as common. Also women are benefited financially, since anything that they do is more likely to be successful just because men are so thirsty, that is the biggest real advantage.
Honestly, being human is just shit in general, so maybe there isn't that much of a difference. Trannies are definitely in a worse position than either of them, though. That is just a huge mistake, a result of masculinity being demonized (and femininity in men being demonized as well, leading to certain men wanting to actually become women, so they can actually accept those traits), and men being unable to find what they want externally, and resorting to trying to become what they desire, which is just impossible in this case, and because of their decision, they end up losing their actual possibilities. They are really just victims of society's mistakes, misunderstandings, and rules. Well, more specifically the ones that have already mutilated themselves. You can't reverse that, so regret generally leads to suicide. Maintaining and spreading the delusion is really just a self-preservation mechanism, since very few people are strong enough to deal with that level of regret. This problem will not be solved. It will have to get worse before it gets worse before it gets even fucking worse . Saving one or two people would be nice, though, but even that is unlikely.
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引きこもり 06/12/19 (Wed) 23:13:44 c9a36d No. 7629
>>7623
Well luckily I don't think as many people are buying into the delusion as shitholes like twitter would like you to believe. The mass censorship blanket that get's thrown over any critical discussion of tranny shit pretty much says it all.
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引きこもり 07/16/19 (Tue) 03:03:07 63fdbb No. 7727
I stopped thinking about transitioning when I realized it only affects how you present yourself to other people and why put yourself through all this shit if you don't wanna be around people in the first place. I'm incapable of picturing myself as male when I daydream though and I have an elaborate idealized female self that i've been cultivating since I was about 14. It's not a sex thing or anything, it's just that female gender roles feel a lot more natural and comfortable for me to slip into. Being male is like a self-actualization dead-end because I know right from the start that I can never become the person I truly want to be
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