/hikki/ - Hikikomori

>>4094

The harsh reality is women have too much power in society and because of that they have life on easy mode and can get away with a lot of things men can't get away with it's also the reason men are being hunted by the system as well.

>>4094

Surprised no one brought it up but if anything the expectation is for females to be bright happy social butterflies constantly chattering away, the pressure is high, it's more crushing when you are ugly or homely, and it's still possible to fall through the cracks of society by simply never going outside or talking to anyone ever.

No. I've never met a woman or girl that I liked. I find their personalities and behaviors revolting. Real women are nothing like anime. I do wish I was gay.

>>4791

>Real women are nothing like anime.

This is true.

>>4983

>I never wanted to be a girl but from 8-13 I was sort of femboy-ish and would wear girl clothes. My family didn't care

I think we all have done this at some point when we were little.

>>4984

I would exclusively wear girls clothes and have my mom do my hair. When my voice started changing and little hairs were on my crotch I knew my cute days were over and accepted it.

>>652

Being a girl would be nice but i would much rather be a cute prepubescent boy but that might just be wanting to go back to my pre-hikikiomori days

>>5028

Thanks anon.

>>5043

>the coach/teacher/etc having to talk to my parents about how weird I was and how I make other kids uncomfortable, so please stop sending him

That sucks, but I know how you feel. I never really went out of my way to try to make friends, and when I did end up with a few, they didn't want to hang around me very often because I was a bit too strange for them. I don't think I was even that strange really, it was just that I didn't talk much and missed the vast majority of social cues, so any flow or momentum that may have been building up in a given situation collapsed and made the other kids uncomfortable. So after a short time, most kids would give up on me and avoid me. I was often branded as "that kid who never talks" and some of them honestly believed I was mute.

>>5049

>I don't think I was even that strange really, it was just that I didn't talk much and missed the vast majority of social cues, so any flow or momentum that may have been building up in a given situation collapsed and made the other kids uncomfortable. So after a short time, most kids would give up on me and avoid me.

The same thing actually happened to me.

What do you guys think of stuff like this?

https://westspace.org.au/exhi/6991/stay-home-sakoku-the-hikikomori-project

i don't think she really understands what it means to be hikki. she thinks it is about displaying oneself to the world or 'making a statement' or something about life. but i don't think our condition is supposed to be some kind of political statement. she is exploiting.

I thought about HRT for a long time and really empathized with trannies. But i never thought it was for me, I never thought i was one of these crazy trannies. I just didn't like being manly and liked feeling cute. Idk i read this thing

>http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm

and i'm pretty sure i'm a G3. When i think about my childhood and how i felt and still feel it's pretty accurate. I don't know what to do. They say if you don't do something this stuff will only get worse and worse and you lose your chance with every day that passes. I'm very confused and afraid with all of this. Could my depression and stuff actually be because i'm fucked up sexually and repressed that for so long? Or is this some jew shit? fuck i hate feeling like this all confused and lost why cant i just be normal

>>5385

i requested an appointment for gender stuff at this clinic near me that does that sort of stuff. I figure i'm already on the path to suicide the worst this could do is give me a reason to pull the trigger. I'm told full HRT will give you emotions and allow you to cry. I miss being able to cry so much.

>>5396

My test levels are actually the problem. I raised them a lot when i fell for the military meme and got kinda /fit/ before all this pain came crashing back into me. The test feels awful or at least that's my perception. I felt better when my test was lower. Luckily i'm not on tumblr or anything like that. I'm a forum with a few people who have done HRT to some degree and are realistic about it. One guy i've been talking to a lot has very similar issues to me and a similar backstory as far as repressing and stuff. He's doing full on HRT but continuing to live as a male. He says it's helping him a lot. I also brought this up to a therapist i'm being forced to see by some family and she seemed receptive in the sense that it probably is a direction worth looking at.

I don't know, anon. All of this is just so fucked. What I would like to happen is the ability to feel emotions again and be somewhat comfortable in my own skin. I really don't even want to dress like a girl or whatever. I certainly wouldn't want to have the surgery that's just insane. I have no intention of LARPing as a female.

>>5397

That's a relief then, good luck with that since I'm not too familiar with those (lack of) feels, What I said still holds for lurkers.

>>5398

Thanks anon. Still not sure i will go through with any of it but it seems like something worth doing honestly.

Though I do caution anybody else reading to please do the research and go talk to somebody and don't self medicate unless you know exactly what you're doing and know people who have done what you're doing. Reading through all this shit these past few weeks is painful for a lot of reasons but something that got to me was seeing these poor guys getting roped into this thinking they can become a cute trap with HRT and basically destroy their psyche because of it. This stuff isn't a joke it actually alters you a lot and those changes are not just aesthetic.

Firstly, sorry for bumping an old thread, but I need to say this.

GUYS, DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP MEME!!

> It will not make you happy

> It will not make your life easier

> It takes away resources from trans people

> HRT can and will do permanent (and in some cases, irreversible) damage to your body

> HRT WILL GIVE YOU DYSPHORIA IF YOU ARE NOT TRANS

> It's nothing but a degenerate fetish anyway, and you are worth more than that

Combo breaker here, but I am a transman. This means I was born female. But let me tell you, even before I was out of the closet and diagnosed with dysphoria, life was never easy for me.

> family treated me like shit (still does)

> physically and emotionally abused/neglected by parents

> was bullied by whole school just for being the only weeb there

> physically assaulted by literal Chads who were bigger and stronger than me

> developed severe daily panic attacks that led to me to eventually just dropping out of high school altogether

> no friends or emotional support system

> crippling loneliness

And mind you, I was fairly attractive. Easily an 8/10 that people actually wanted to date and fuck (I turned them down due to what I didn't know at the time was dysphoria).

And no, I didn't *choose* to "become a man" because I thought that being male would be easier for me. I've been out for a decade now, and my life in general has only gotten shittier. (Only a small part of that is due to being trans, fyi. The rest is a tragic combination of autistic social skills and bad luck).

I'm not saying that women aren't privileged. That's a filthy feminist lie. But the thing is that you have to be a normie to begin with if you want access to life on Easy Mode.

I would rather not be trans. I would rather just be normal, either as a man or a woman. This is why I can't fathom why anyone would want to put himself through all of this unnecessary torture. Do you really want to sterilize yourself and ruin your own health, all for some nasty IRL dickgirl fetish?

Also, I know that traps are not the same thing as transwomen, but with scumbag fetishists now shilling HRT to impressionable young men, the whole problem definitely affects the trans community now.

I started horomones a while ago but im too depressed to take care of myself so i look sort of androgynous now

makes my fear of going outside worse because i get called a faggot or something like that pretty often if i ever do (mostly just to go to doctors and stuff about once every couple of months)

If you take hormones or believe you are "transgender" you are a normalfag. Trans shit is the most vapid trendy cliqueshit and you belong on twitter or tumblr if you fall for it. Of course it would infest this dead board filled with quirky introverts though.

>>6815

You do realize trans content has been on imageboards since 2005 right? also this place has not been infested nor is it dead.

>>6818

You do realize things tend to change in over a decade right? He's absolutely right.

Back when the thread was posted I considered posting myself because there were times I wished I was born as a girl in an alternate timeline. Never did I consider taking hormones or getting a sex change because I am 100% a man and take a certain degree of pride in that. Then tranny faggots started to post naive of me to think/hope that wouldn't happen so I fucked off because I refuse to be associated with these degenerates. Point is they may not be infesting the board but but they certainly are infesting this thread and if they post in this thread they will probably post in others, so who knows.

They are exactly like furries hiding behind an idea/mask for their fetishes and form some sort of community around it. tranny conventions wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they aren't a thing already.

>>6815

Real trans people still exist though, and we distance ourselves from the movement because it's nothing but a political movement made to include anyone who wants to feel *special*.

> tranny

> normalfag

Pick one. Normalfags aren't mentally ill.

>>6830

Well, at least you're self aware.

>>6833

I have to agree. If someone handed me a device or could cast a spell to turn me into an actual woman, I think i'd pay them to stay the fuck away from me. The sickening cattiness and superficiality that permeates most female circles, biological drawbacks (menstruation, hormonal fluctuations, etc.), and unnerving vulnerability to predators and fucking maniacs overshadows any delusions of "Living life on easy mode" in my opinion.

At most I would consider streaming or something to take advantage of the advantages from a distance but even then, where's the dignity in that? Social phobia wrecks havoc on the person I am now, a pair of tits and a pussy would make thngs infinitely worse.

>>6845

women can live life on easy mode but they're too stupid to realize it and go seeking drama intentionally.

Old thread, but felt I should give my piece. If you wanted to be a girl since adolescence and are decent looking, do it. I finally did, and it was great. You dont really change that much to be honest. Health & energy has improved if anything. Life doesnt become easy mode either. Same for boy or girl - how much effort you put into your appearance will show in how strangers treat you.

Either way, I agree with OP - if you are what you want to be, then I think you will be more able to face the world outside.

>>818

>shes a female hikki and actually the most famous one too.

If she were a man she probably won't be as half of famous she is (was).

>>7305

>If she were a man she probably won't be as half of famous she is (was).

True.

These types of threads need to be purged before this board is overrun with trannies

>>7314

You don't need to be a tranny to want to be a girl.

>>7314

I agree

young female relative is an absolute tyrant. she's probably going to grow up to be a child murderer. she's being raised by a single mother who wildly vacillates between spoiling her and verbally abusing her, but in modern society where telling a girl no is abuse I don't see what else anyone can do.

>>7337

are you the guy with the fat neice from /b/

>>2174

I'd like to add

[Sapolsky on neurological trauma](https://youtu.be/XvMQQsyPirM)

Due to Estrogen, women seem to be a lot better at tolerating the sort of psychological kettling that you see in groups of female friends where they will dis each-other and aggro on anything taboo relentlessly. In contrast to men, physical aggression seems to be a simpler and more complete solution to this sort of environment. If a man is having a choice of a prolonged conflict that does not challenge their body (physical harm) or take a physical risk and avoid psychological harm, the risk of physical harm will be taken every time.

When you look at sex differences more generally coupled with the hikikomori problem, you observe a complete abuse of male sex differences. The psychological needs of males are completely neglected systemically over the course of childhood and adolescences. In Hikikomori Adolescence Without End it is stated, Hikikomori are more likely to come from middle class, wealthier, educated homes. This trend started in the Boom Economy in Japan and the trend has carried since. This is relevant because you are seeing older parents this model. Parents instinctively have to over-natalize (excessively care for and shelter) because they don't have the option to procreate again and therefore will see the child as made of glass and want to rap it in bubble-rap. Metaphor aside, Hikikomori can be frighteningly summarised as men not being able to develop their

Peterson on bravery (I don't mean to moralise, but these too clips build on each-other very nicely. They're not very long, if you watch then both in order I would recommend that.):

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHkKVMCgXLk

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u427uO_4mw0

Bravery (in the sense of video [1]) and scene of accomplishment which leads to dependence on parents and the home. The lack of bravery, or rather lack of ability to recover from adverse experiences, example bullying or a stressful job, results in a complete retreat back into the over-natalized environment. At the point of retreat (which can happen at any age) symptoms re-surge with a realisation of learned helplessness.

[Sapolsky on Depression Stanford](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc)

[TED adverse childhood experiences](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ovIJ3dsNk)

With an pathology based in early childhood adverse experiences, Hikikomori, sits well with in this category. Rather than the condition being strictly of the individual, it's more a condition developed by a completely counter productive environment to the aim of what can be dubbed in common parlance "being a participating member of society". Subjects who develop Hikikomori come out of a psycho-social environment that rewards docility, complete dependence on care givers, and no adaptive capacity (the ability to grow and recover from adverse experiences). Theses are all hall-marks of the Freudian Devouring Mother Archetype. With Hikikomori you have a situation: a depressive reciting to maternal abuse.

Eh, being/become a girl isn't some guarantee to getting a typical girl personality type. Unless you're absolutely sure all your issues are mainly because of your looks, confirmed by whether you'd also do well in life if only you looked like a chad or whatever, then sure perhaps.

But if it's your personality, trauma, PD's that cause your issues.. You'll just be a female hiki instead then. You won't gain social skills or a personality that takes human interaction any better or is more confident.

>>7623

Well luckily I don't think as many people are buying into the delusion as shitholes like twitter would like you to believe. The mass censorship blanket that get's thrown over any critical discussion of tranny shit pretty much says it all.