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A WARNING TO ALL NEW USERS IF YOU ARE NOT A HIKIKOMORI I WILL BAN YOU!! People who are going to work or school are not Hikikomori There are many people on here who can not leave their home Please choose your topic with consideration IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AT HOME INSIDE YOUR ROOM FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS OR MORE THEN DON'T POST HERE!

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0b8ec7 No.5512

Has anyone here ever had their hikki lifestyle come into jeopardy, be that from threats in their family to kick you out, etc? How were you able to deal with it or change their mind?

t. anon who is facing threats of being kicked out.

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f5fe7e No.5515

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>>5512

>Has anyone here ever had their hikki lifestyle come into jeopardy, be that from threats in their family to kick you out, etc?

i'm sure some of you guys know this already but in 2014 i got kicked out of my parents house because i got into a fight with another family member and my parents at the time were pretty much at their breaking point they couldn't handle me just sitting in my room all the time and not doing anything so they kicked me out and i was committed to the psych ward for 3 months where i had to live with a bunch of asshole normalfags and was severely treated like shit by the staff and other patients as well. Before i was kicked out i was facing threats of being kicked out.or being institutionalized.

>How were you able to deal with it or change their mind?.

I wasn't able to change their mind but i did try and after i was released from the psych ward and moved into the first group home i lived in until about 9 months ago i pretty much just went right back to my old hikki life. I did try to rejoin society and be social again a few times but every time i tried it always ended up being a fucking disaster and so at this point i've pretty much stopped trying and don't care anymore i will probably only become a wageslave and rejoin society if i get desperate and lose all of my neetbux or something tbh.

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0b8ec7 No.5516

>>5515

Who do you live with now, if you don't mind me asking? By yourself?

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0b8ec7 No.5517

Also, some additional info about my situation. I live with my aunt and uncle and over the course of living with them racked up a bunch of DMCA notices on their internet account because the ISP caught some of illegal games I torrented. Two days ago was like the 8th time they got a notice and my Uncle flew in a rage and said, "I don't think you live here anymore" and so I put on a dramatic scene and acted like I was packing up all my shit into a backpack until they stopped me and said, "Where are you going to go? You don't have to leave right now." But now I feel extremely uncomfortable and in limbo constantly with them pressuring me to find somewhere else to go. I have no job or income to pay for somewhere to go. I've tried biding my time by telling them I'm applying for HUD/Section 8 housing but I still think you have to either have a family, be elderly, or have a disability to qualify. I also can't go live with my mom because she also refuses to let me stay with her any longer.

ib4 "dude, why didn't you use a VPN'. I don't have any money to pay for a real one.

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f5fe7e No.5518

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>>5516

>Who do you live with now, if you don't mind me asking? By yourself?

After i left the psych ward i moved into a group house that held 15 people including me in August 2017 i moved out of there and i now currently live in a smaller house with only 3 other people who i barely ever see of course because i don't leave my room the only time i leave my room is when i need to use the bathroom or to eat and i sleep during the day and am awake at night.

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f5fe7e No.5519

>>5517

> I don't have any money to pay for a real one.

Download Windscribe it's a free VPN.

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1fc90d No.5520

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I've been fairly lucky in this regard because my father is really passive when it comes to anything and just let's me do what I do without ever bothering me. I rarely see him or my siblings, but when I do I get the usual "So when are you going to start working?" at which I shrug and answer with "dunno" and lock myself back in my room.

A bit over a year ago we did move though and I had to leave my room and help everyone with packing shit for the move and then load and unload the truck we rented. I actually felt quite good after this and wanted to get fit and start working, but minor things lead me into a downward spiral of depression and anxiety again which lead me back into shutting myself in my room.

A few days ago I overheard my sister talking to my father about me, basically saying how I'm a loser, I shouldn't be like this when I'm almost 25 etc. and it hit home. I always assumed my family thought about me like this, but hearing it first hand and uncensored was still unexpectedly hard to take in. It's things like this that make it harder to even attempt to get out of this cycle of hell, but I suppose the real threat and disruption in this life style will be when I inevitably an hero in the near future.

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f5fe7e No.5544

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>>5520

>A few days ago I overheard my sister talking to my father about me, basically saying how I'm a loser, I shouldn't be like this when I'm almost 25 etc. and it hit home. I always assumed my family thought about me like this, but hearing it first hand and uncensored was still unexpectedly hard to take in. It's things like this that make it harder to even attempt to get out of this cycle of hell

No offense man but your sister sounds like a fucking bitch and i know what you mean it's very hard to breakout of this lifestyle especially when bad things keep happening to you eventually it gets to that point where you are like you know what fuck this why even try anymore? who cares??.

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1fc90d No.5546

>>5544

>No offense man but your sister sounds like a fucking bitch

None taken, she's a fairly good looking normalfag with a boyfriend, so I guess it's kind of expected.

>it's very hard to breakout of this lifestyle especially when bad things keep happening to you

Some honest to god and genuine support from someone who actually gives a fuck would be nice for a change, even though this is impossible because we're always holed up somewhere and never meet new people. I always thought this is a sort of paradox for hikkis.

>eventually it gets to that point where you are like you know what fuck this why even try anymore?

I reached that point a few years ago. Hearing certain things can still hurt even when I try not to care.

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6d83a3 No.5547

>>5544

>your sister sounds like a fucking bitch

What else could you reasonably expect her to make of him and his situation? It would not be an exaggeration to describe his relationship towards his family as parasitic and exploitative, and consider his age, at what point would it be fair to say that he's exhausting their patience and charitability?

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f5fe7e No.5548

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>>5546

> she's a fairly good looking normalfag with a boyfriend, so I guess it's kind of expected.

True.

>Some honest to god and genuine support from someone who actually gives a fuck would be nice for a change, even though this is impossible because we're always holed up somewhere and never meet new people. I always thought this is a sort of paradox for hikkis.

I know right and what really pisses me off is there is really no support for hikikomori in the west.

>I reached that point a few years ago. Hearing certain things can still hurt even when I try not to care.

I know this feeling all too well anon one of my housemates complains about me all the time i hear him outside my door and he says stuff like that guy should be ashamed of himself he's such a lazy bum why doesn't he go outside?? or why doesn't he go to work? and so on. I seriously fucking hate people and this fucking world.

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1fc90d No.5549

>>5547

You're absolutely right, although I do keep it on a minimum. I only eat what I have to, and the only other expense would be the electricity I use, but that's covered in our rent (as well as hydro) as I understand it anyways since we share a house with another family that owns it, and all my father pays is a flat amount each month.

The thing that bothers me though is they act like this, yet not my sister, nor my brother nor my father (my mother has been out of the picture for 10 years now) have ever asked me why I lock myself in my room, why I don't go out and be social, whether I'm okay, etc. Absolutely nothing. Before I even became a hikki I noticed something was not right with me due to anti-social tendencies and various other things, and reached out to my father asking for help and all I got was a "You're fine." That was the first and last time I ever sought help from anyone.

>>5548

>what really pisses me off is there is really no support for hikikomori in the west.

At this point I wouldn't even want it out of spite and general hatred for society. The only help I'd accept is from an individual person that actually wants to help.

>one of my housemates complains about me all the time

I doubt anyone that talks the way these people do will ever be able to understand unless they go through something similar themselves, and as such they will always talk negatively about us because if they can do it, then so can we. Ignorance is bliss after all.

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2d6d2f No.5552

>>5520

>I always assumed my family thought about me like this, but hearing it first hand and uncensored was still unexpectedly hard to take in. It's things like this that make it harder to even attempt to get out of this cycle of hell

I know this feel, I caught my parents talking one night about how they have no idea what they're going to do about me or what's wrong with me.

I keep them at bay by doing chores around the house when they're not at home or during the night

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46c77f No.5557

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>>5549

>The thing that bothers me though is they act like this, yet not my sister, nor my brother nor my father (my mother has been out of the picture for 10 years now) have ever asked me why I lock myself in my room, why I don't go out and be social, whether I'm okay, etc. Absolutely nothing.

They likely think it's too touchy 'a subject and not something they're equipped to handle. They'd rather let sleeping autists lie, hence why they only talk about you when you're out of earshot. That's what I'd guess, anyway.

Realistically though, would you even know how to go about asking for help? I've always been reluctant to try because ultimately I'm not convinced there's anything anybody could realistically do to unfuck my situation, even if they wanted to. My brother has been the only one to ever really try reaching out me, asked many personal questions that I'd been honestly dying for someone to ask, but questions that I found I was unable to provide any coherent answers for all the same. When he asked if there was anything he could do to help me out, I just told him not to worry about it because I couldn't think of anything he could do that would have any meaningful impact.

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f5fe7e No.5562

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>>5549

>At this point I wouldn't even want it out of spite and general hatred for society.

Same here.

>The only help I'd accept is from an individual person that actually wants to help.

Same i don't want help from someone who claims they want to help but instead has an ulterior motive.

>I doubt anyone that talks the way these people do will ever be able to understand unless they go through something similar themselves, and as such they will always talk negatively about us because if they can do it, then so can we. Ignorance is bliss after all.

That's true.

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1fc90d No.5563

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>>5557

>Realistically though, would you even know how to go about asking for help?

I mentioned in my last post that I asked my father for help shortly before I became or even knew what a hikki is. At that point I had always been fairly anti social but it was getting worse since I cut off ties with the only 2-3 people I hung out with on weekends, I started getting much more anxious more often and a bunch of other smaller things that made me want to get help before things got worse. I basically told my father this and that I wanted at the very least a psychiatric evaluation but he just shrugged it all off.

My family has never been close and we never talked about any issues any of us had. I guarantee every one of them has tons of shit bottled up inside, which would explain why my brother is pretty messed up and a semi-hikki too. (has no friends, spends most of his time in his room, does go out once in a while and works part time)

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f5fe7e No.5564

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>>5563

>I guarantee every one of them has tons of shit bottled up inside, which would explain why my brother is pretty messed up and a semi-hikki too. (has no friends, spends most of his time in his room, does go out once in a while and works part time)

This is probably a stupid question but do you think antisocial behavior may be hereditary??. It sounds like your brother is doing okay and hasn't turned intro a actual hikki but he could still be susceptible.

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46c77f No.5565

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>>5563

>I mentioned in my last post that I asked my father for help shortly before I became or even knew what a hikki is

Yeah, but how long ago was that? How long have you been a hikki? I only ask because I would never expect normalscums to understand your condition right off the bat, they're more likely to just brush you off as lazy and decedent. But, you're an oldfag now, I'd imagine they've become well enough accustomed to your abnormalities to recognize that they can't be so easily explained away and dismissed. Perhaps now they'd be open to at least take your situation seriously and hear you out? Out of mere curiosity, if anything. I'm sure they've got a load of questions that they're aware they don't have the answers for.

Anyhow, that's sort of what happened in my case, even if it only took them a decade to catch on. Of course, they won't lift a finger to actually help me out with anything, but I don't really blame them for that because they don't know what the fuck to do and neither do I. They just know well enough to not step on my toes or force me into awkward social situations anymore. The downside being that now everyone treats me like I'm a retarded six-year-old, and they're always tip-toeing around me like I'm a ticking time bomb that'll go off if they look at me the wrong way.

>My family has never been close and we never talked about any issues any of us had

They care enough to subsidize your useless ass into your mid-twenties, unless it's really just apathy. I'm only 22, and I've been threatened with homelessness more times than I care to remember.

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1fc90d No.5566

>>5564

>This is probably a stupid question but do you think antisocial behavior may be hereditary?

I think in this case it's more about the parents and how they were brought up, and in turn how they are bringing up their kids. My father's side of the family is very similar to how we are. Almost no affection is ever shown, no hugs, no kisses and problems aren't talked about. My mother's side of the family is pretty normal although she was diagnosed with depression and had a tendency to be over protective when we were kids. Still no hugs, kisses and very little affection though. She left for another man when I was 13/14 though. I think it hit my brother the hardest since he was fairly close to her. Naturally it's something none of us really talked about with my father either.

The biggest factor though I think is that we weren't taught enough as kids as far as how the world and society works goes.

In short I think it's more about circumstances and upbringing rather than genetics.

>>5565

>Yeah, but how long ago was that?

I was 18 at the time, so around 7 years.

>How long have you been a hikki?

Closing in on 7 years.

>Perhaps now they'd be open to at least take your situation seriously and hear you out?

I'm pretty sure they would be since my brother got some help and was put on meds. But I'm stubborn when it comes to things like this to my detriment and still angry about what happened the first time around, the only way would be for them to approach me and offer help. And even then, there's this

>because they don't know what the fuck to do and neither do I.

>They care enough to subsidize your useless ass into your mid-twenties, unless it's really just apathy.

Most likely the latter.

That reminds me how another anon mentioned my situation being parasitic, which isn't wrong, but at the same time I'm less parasitic than either of my siblings. They don't pay rent or for food, and my father pays their cell phone bills (which I don't have)

All of this shit doesn't make any fucking sense to me. If I had the skills and know-how I'd just fuck off to live innawoods and probably get eaten by a bear or something.

>The downside being that now everyone treats me like I'm a retarded six-year-old, and they're always tip-toeing around me like I'm a ticking time bomb that'll go off if they look at me the wrong way.

I would hate this, have you tried telling them there's no need for that?

>I'm only 22

It's crazy how fast time flies when you don't do fuck all, it feels like 3 years ago was yesterday.

>I've been threatened with homelessness more times than I care to remember.

I'm fortunate in this regard. Have you made a plan of some sort in case you ever do get kicked out?

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46c77f No.5570

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>>5566

>In short I think it's more about circumstances and upbringing rather than genetics

This, at least mostly so, allowing of course for people who have obviously diagnosable medical issues. Though, I would be surprised if certain hereditary characteristics didn't have a role to play in one's likelihood of becoming a hikki. I know even just introverts come bundled with a bunch of neurotic and anti-social characteristics which are largely heritable, and environmental pressures will still affect how those genetic traits are ultimately expressed.

I don't really believe I can blame my situation on genetics or my upbringing. I have four other siblings who are all quite successful and always have been, even I was prior to 2007, at least academically. However, circumstantially, it is fairly obvious why I ended up the way I am.

>I'm stubborn when it comes to things like this

I was once as well, but stubbornness requires emotional resources I just don't have anymore - namely pride, and no self-respect or shame by extension. I see myself as something of a running joke and not something I bear to take seriously. I've surrendered any illusion of control I might have once had over this shitshow that is my life, and I'm really just along for the ride at this point. I did have larger point to get across with this particular tirade, but I can't seem to remember what it was, so, eh.

>the only way would be for them to approach me and offer help

I figured as much, which is why I asked if you'd even know how to ask for help even if it were available. The tricky thing about that is, it works both ways, and they probably don't know how to approach you about it either, or what questions to ask and how to ask them, how you will react if they do etc. Again: letting sleeping autists lie.

>Most likely the latter

That is very unfortunate if it's the case. I would advise you not underestimate them so readily, and that what you may perceive as apathy could instead be a sort of jaded exhaustion, but you seem to have them figured out well enough and I have no reason to doubt it given everything you've said. In my case, even just a few years I wouldn't have found it difficult to conclude that my family genuinely hated me, they would have had every reason to and they certainly acted like it, but they seem to have pulled through for the most part, and they still haven't given up on me despite the fact that I've long since given up on myself.

>That reminds me how another anon mentioned my situation being parasitic

That was me (VPN), tbh. I didn't mean anything by it, the same could be said for most of us here, myself especially. I just find regrettable when some hikkies are so quick to condemn and write off what is realistically the only familial/social support structure they have. They will rightly complain about how other people don't understand their situation, but by the same token, seemingly refuse to understand the situation those people themselves are placed in as an expense of their hikki lifestyle, as much as it might be a normalfaggot thing to say. I'm left with the impression of them sawing at the very branch they're standing on.

>If I had the skills and know-how I'd just fuck off to live innawoods

Not a good idea, anon. You'll end up like that one Sataniaposter. Speaking of which, what ever happened to him? I know he was hanging around here for while.

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46c77f No.5571

>>5566

>have you tried telling them there's no need for that?

I'd have liked to think that would not be necessary. I don't think I act that autistically, not around them, and I've never been prone to outbursts. But, maybe I'm just lacking the self-awareness to tell.

>It's crazy how fast time flies when you don't do fuck all, it feels like 3 years ago was yesterday

Yup. I unironically forget how old I am sometimes, I have to think about it. My memory from the time since I was 16 just draws a complete blank, with exception of pieces of media that I've consumed. It's like it never even happened.

>Have you made a plan of some sort in case you ever do get kicked out?

Nah, I was supposed to be getting kicked out by the end of this month if I don't find work, but how serious were they about that? I guess I'll have to wait and see. I have spotted out some homeless shelters around town though. As for social assistance, I'm suspended from NEETbux until the end of June for violating my PA six times in a row, so, RIP.

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1fc90d No.5572

>>5570

>namely pride, and no self-respect or shame by extension.

It's the other way around for me. I've always been fairly prideful and it comes naturally. I also retain some self-respect, namely taking care of myself by eating as good as circumstances allow me, hygiene and grooming myself. The only thing I really let slip is gaining weight and that's also the area I feel the most shame. (being a parasite aside)

>which is why I asked if you'd even know how to ask for help even if it were available.

As much as my family has given up on me, I have given up on them in providing any assistance. Kind of amusing when you put it that way.

>I would advise you not underestimate them so readily

If they do indeed care even a little bit, they have all been really really really bad at ever showing it. (That includes before becoming a shut in)

>I didn't mean anything by it

I didn't think you did, and I agree with everything you said.

>Not a good idea, anon.

I know, but one can dream right?

>You'll end up like that one Sataniaposter.

He clearly didn't have the skills nor know-how even if he says otherwise. No offense to him, I think it takes balls to actually go out there

>Speaking of which, what ever happened to him?

Last I heard he got a job and hated it. I believe it was at Wal-Mart but don't quote me on that.

>>5571

>I'd have liked to think that would not be necessary.

If they do it and you don't like it, it may be worth it to bring up.

>I unironically forget how old I am sometimes, I have to think about it. My memory from the time since I was 16 just draws a complete blank

That happens more often to me than I'd like to admit, and if you asked me what I did the last ~5 years I couldn't tell you. Apart from certain video games I've played.

>I was supposed to be getting kicked out by the end of this month if I don't find work, but how serious were they about that?

Might be genuine, could be a ruse to get you motivated to find work. In my opinion it's not worth the gamble and stay without at least a basic plan of actions to take for the worst case scenario.

>I'm suspended from NEETbux until the end of June

I don't get NEETbux, I'm not even sure if I can apply for it since I'm not a citizen in the country I live in, and I'm pretty sure my passport expired by now as well.

>for violating my PA six times in a row

I don't know what PA is.

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f5fe7e No.5573

>>5570

> I have four other siblings who are all quite successful and always have been, even I was prior to 2007, at least academically. However, circumstantially, it is fairly obvious why I ended up the way I am.

Prior to 2007 i was a lot more of a social person i would go out all the time and had many friends but all that went away once i entered into adolescence. I have 3 younger sisters who are all quite successful as well while i'm still stuck being hikki for a decade now.

>I just find regrettable when some hikkies are so quick to condemn and write off what is realistically the only familial/social support structure they have. They will rightly complain about how other people don't understand their situation, but by the same token, seemingly refuse to understand the situation those people themselves are placed in as an expense of their hikki lifestyle, as much as it might be a normalfaggot thing to say. I'm left with the impression of them sawing at the very branch they're standing on.

There really is no support for hikikomori outside Japan though and i think everyone on here knows that we kinda are left to fend for ourselves and family may be supportive but the individual may feel as if they don't have enough support or the kind of support they need.

>You'll end up like that one Sataniaposter. Speaking of which, what ever happened to him? I know he was hanging around here for while.

I haven't seen him post here since March i know he escaped hikki life an was wagecucking at Walmart for awhile and then he quit his job because he couldn't handle the stress of having to deal with people.

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f5fe7e No.5575

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>>5572

>. I also retain some self-respect, namely taking care of myself by eating as good as circumstances allow me, hygiene and grooming myself. The only thing I really let slip is gaining weight and that's also the area I feel the most shame. (being a parasite aside)

I do this as well i try to take care of myself by eating right brushing my teeth bathing and cleaning as best as i can but sometimes i lack the motivation to do so. I go through cycles where i will have the motivation to clean and take care of myself and other times i lack the motivation and let it all slip and it just repeats i'm sure many on here can relate to this as this has been talked about before.

>As much as my family has given up on me, I have given up on them in providing any assistance. Kind of amusing when you put it that way.

I still rely on my parents somewhat but for the most part i am trying to be more of a independent person i'm still new to the whole online grocery shopping thing and trying to figure it out.

>I think it takes balls to actually go out there.

Same here i i hate the woods to be honest i always have.

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1fc90d No.5577

>>5575

>and other times i lack the motivation and let it all slip and it just repeats

I get like that too, but I generally do my best to take care of myself.

>i hate the woods to be honest i always have.

I grew up in a small-ish town around farm land and forests and loved it. Still do. I currently live in the city and absolutely hate it. Everything is way too busy, no one knows each other and by extension tend to treat strangers with less respect. Another factor of why I became a hikki.

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f5fe7e No.5579

File: 2178bdce6535520⋯.jpg (38.56 KB,696x337,696:337,satou-11.jpg)

>>5577

>I grew up in a small-ish town around farm land and forests and loved it. Still do.

I'm from burgerland i was born in the big city but moved around a lot as a child to smaller towns and back to the city a few times which was stressful tbh. I don't exactly know where my hatred for the woods comes from although as far back as i can remember when i was about 2 or 3 years old i remember being afraid of nature and the outside world i wouldn't walk on grass at all or go near any trees and this lasted up until about elementary school.

>I get like that too, but I generally do my best to take care of myself.

Same here although there was a time around 2009/2010 where i didn't bathe for a long time and i only would once or twice a month i did this because i was depressed basically and i would just sit in my room wallowing in my own filth. How i got out of this was my dad told me that i could die if i don't bathe and that scared me at the time so i started bathing regularly again and have been ever since.

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1fc90d No.5580

>>5579

>as far back as i can remember when i was about 2 or 3 years old i remember being afraid of nature and the outside world

I don't blame you, nature can be scary as fuck, especially if you get lost or are left in the dark without fire/lights.

> i wouldn't walk on grass at all or go near any trees and this lasted up until about elementary school.

Oh. That's the first time I've ever heard of something like that. As a kid I'd often wander the woods near where I lived and found berries and stuff to eat. I'd say back then I was a bit more knowledgeable about that sort of thing, but it was stupid and risky nonetheless. It's always interesting to meet polar opposite individuals.

>i did this because i was depressed basically and i would just sit in my room wallowing in my own filth.

I get how that happens. My old room in the house we lived in before I moved was a pigsty. Trash everywhere, I didn't clean myself very often either and I had a massive beard that went down to around my belly button. I actually liked the beard for comedic purposes. It made me feel like a wizard, and when it was winter I could wrap it around my neck like a scarf. Nowadays I keep everything clean and I find the process a bit therapeutic.

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46c77f No.5581

>>5572

>could be a ruse to get you motivated to find work

No, they aren't kicking me out for any reason like that, they literally just can't afford to feed my ass anymore. Since my share of the bux got shut off, they're supporting me at a major deficit, and have been for a while. This isn't something they've dropped on me out of the blue either, I've known about it for months, and I've done nothing.

>it's not worth the gamble and stay without at least a basic plan of actions to take for the worst case scenario

Homelessness kind of is the plan, tbh. I think it might be the kick in the teeth that kinda' need. One of my sisters has offered to take me in, but I know if I do that I'll just relapse and end up leeching off her as well.

>don't know what PA is

Participation agreement. In my case, it required me to complete prior learning assessment & recognition course; a GED, essentially (I never finished high school). There were no options for an online course, so they wanted me to attend an alternative school every day. I'm sure you can imagine why that didn't work out so well.

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f5fe7e No.5582

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>>5580

> nature can be scary as fuck, especially if you get lost or are left in the dark without fire/lights.

True.

>That's the first time I've ever heard of something like that. As a kid I'd often wander the woods near where I lived and found berries and stuff to eat. I'd say back then I was a bit more knowledgeable about that sort of thing, but it was stupid and risky nonetheless. It's always interesting to meet polar opposite individuals.

That's interesting around 2008 until about early 2011 my dad was dating this girl who later on ended up moving in with him and i had to share a room with her 10 year old son. Sometimes he would try to get me to come outside but i never really wanted to i just wanted to stay inside avoid everyone and turn the world off he would even try to drag me out into the woods sometimes but i could never do it and usually after taking only a few steps into the woods i turned around and ran home back to my room although when he wasn't trying to drag me into the woods and wanted to do something different i would go out and hang out with him sometimes but we mostly hung out inside.

>My old room in the house we lived in before I moved was a pigsty. Trash everywhere, I didn't clean myself very often either and I had a massive beard that went down to around my belly button. I actually liked the beard for comedic purposes. It made me feel like a wizard, and when it was winter I could wrap it around my neck like a scarf. Nowadays I keep everything clean and I find the process a bit therapeutic.

I wish i could grow a beard like that.

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1fc90d No.5583

>>5582

>i would go out and hang out with him sometimes but we mostly hung out inside.

As a kid I was rarely ever inside, most of the time it was just hanging out with a neighbor and playing games on our gameboy until it got dark, which is when we went to a near by store and bought a soda each and a small bag of wine gummies that cost us all together less than a euro at the time. Recalling the better days feels nostalgic.

>I wish i could grow a beard like that.

I've been genetically blessed in this regard, never had a patchy beard and it grows quite quickly too.

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f5fe7e No.5584

>>5583

>Recalling the better days feels nostalgic.

I know right i miss being a kid to be honest those were simpler times.

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9bdb96 No.5585

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>>5573

>"I haven't seen him post here since March i know he escaped hikki life an was wagecucking at Walmart for awhile and then he quit his job because he couldn't handle the stress of having to deal with people"

Probably killed himself to death then, rip. He said he would.

>tfw will never see those beautiful lady hips again

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0b3cc5 No.5587

Im currently waiting to get thrown out and its really scary. I applied for neetbux but I dont think I will even get it. I think Im going to take out some student loans and just take one online course or something to justify it. Not sure what else I can even do and when that money goes i dont know what will happen next.

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e1ee07 No.5591

>>5587

That's no good. You need a long-term strategy to avoid homelessness. Maybe tell your parents you want to find a job? Employment would probably end badly (you'd get fired for doing your job instead of chatting about normalfag TV shows, or some employee would decide she doesn't like how quiet you are and frame you for theft, or any of the manifold absurdities of wage slavery), but if you can convince your parents you're at least trying, they might go easy on you and let you stay, assuming that the logic "you can't live on your own without a salary" would work on them.

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f5fe7e No.5593

>>5587

Do you have any skills?? if you were to do a at home job what would you be interested in??.

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0b3cc5 No.5595

>>5593

I'd love to make money at home but I can't think of anything I could actually do since I never went to college

I've always wanted to do translations but I can never find the motivation to learn Japanese and I don't think I could learn it in 3 or 4 months before they kick me out

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f5fe7e No.5596

>>5595

>I'd love to make money at home but I can't think of anything I could actually do since I never went to college

Try to build up your skills.

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530b9a No.5683

>>5512

As I wrote here: >>5681

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4cf4bd No.5684

>>5593

I've seen these questions quiet a few times and I feel like answering it now.

I have knowledge on basic electronics, I have the materials and the ability to make basic circuits, and with the help of the internet I could manage to make something complex (probably).

Do you think I can somehow make some buxes with that?

If you're wondering how I have these materials and knowledge, I'm a college drop out, I got to the third year of electric engineering, dropped out and locked myself in my house ever since.

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1873f2 No.5689

>>5684

Well, there's plenty indie electronics stuff going on. Look at Crowdsupply for examples.

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