763dd9 No.299476 [Last50 Posts]
Acid spent all last night talking to some familiar IRC names for the first time. Thidran, Zan, S8tan, and Teridax are all a few of the names that appeared.
It's not nearly as bad as it sounds. Lots of enlightening details.
It's been copied into two pastebins by two different people.
http://pastebin.com/Pk0JxeN2
http://pastebin.com/CJV7FBEq
There's about five hours worth of material but I think is all of his interaction in the chat.
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763dd9 No.299478
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763dd9 No.299479
Whats the TL;DR of it
Also
>>299478
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763dd9 No.299483
I will never understand this fascination with the board owner, when it's clear he isn't butt-buddies with Hideo Kojima or Shigeru Miyamoto, and he's not censoring threads.
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763dd9 No.299485
>>299478
Mostly for transparency. Acid did say that he wouldn't do IRC cabals, streams, or any of that so it's fair that everyone gets to see it so they know everything's fine and can see for themselves that there's nothing to worry about.
>>299479
Acid gets called a shit by multiple people for five hours as he stays surprisingly calm for most of it. Occasional outburst and exchange with Thidran and Zan but not a lot is particularly damning. A few statements may be held against him personally and he does make vague claims to something in 9 days but says it'll be over then. There's some explanation of old stuff like board history, the Butts thread with 02 seven months ago, the situation with 06, but a lot of it's history that you probably know of if you've been here. There's also a few references to some of the shadier stuff done some of the IRCfags, such as a weekend dox stream that was had recently.
If you don't care for any of that kind of stuff or board drama, the TL;DR is shit that's nice to know exists publicly but isn't worth hours reading.
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763dd9 No.299487
I regularly chat with that retard Thidran on the super secret darknet Rizon IRC channel #burgersandfries.
Where's my pastebin already?
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763dd9 No.299489
>>299476
I demand evidence from Acid himself to know it this is legit and not some retarded frame job from his even more retarded fanbase.
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763dd9 No.299495
>>299476
Why do people think Teridax is always at hotels? What does he do for a living?
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763dd9 No.299516
Reading it now.
This person claiming to be Acid seems to talking to the Black sheep members of gg AKA /ggrevolt/ AKA Triangles,AKA Aytists,AKA SJW,S infiltration team.
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763dd9 No.299526
> drama addicts
I don't give a flying fuck on who the BO is, as long as he/she doesn't do what /gg/ & /gamergate/ owners did.
And Acid already took measures to ensure that doesn't happen, which is more than I can say about the other board.
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763dd9 No.299527
HoJi/@Korro's list of grievances against Acid https://archive.is/tg38h are all legit bans for trolling and disruption. If you don't want to be mistaken for a troll from Ghazi don't act like a troll from Ghazi. It's not that hard.
There is an easily readable list of shit not to do in the Gentleman's Guide to Forum Spies. Don't do that shit.
It's a shame to recognize a number of ex-GG burnouts in the channel. Can't they tell they are being counterproductive by systematically attacking every pro-GG voice? When was the last time any of these fuckers dug or ran an op against someone who was not pro-GG?
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763dd9 No.299533
Literally every single person in that damn channel is a gg burnout,twitter or irc cancer im surprised s4t didn't show up to complete the party
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763dd9 No.299534
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763dd9 No.299543
Huh, I actually came to drop the raw logs on the board, but pastebins work too.
I'll still drop the logs later, because I'm not combing through all that shit looking for discrepancies. You guys can have both sets to compare.
But yes, I decided to clear some air with these fags last night. Justified on the pretext that it was board-relate4d business, and that… well its kind of a dick thing to say you're going to burn part of some asshole's clubhouse down without even talking about it to them first. I'm usually content to let things filter through the boards to the ears I want to reach, but this is also personal.
It was an enlightening and pretty depressing discussion overall. Shillery by a different name, and I'll go into that later. But I think some understandings were shared. And my opinion of g8tans8tan has been very positively revised, as one person who, despite our obvious differences of opinion, "gets" it. So that was good.
No change in other plans. About 9 days to go.
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763dd9 No.299546
>>299543
>Hangs out with the 8chn version of ghazi
>acts surprised that they acted like ghazi
Not a single person there had anything useful to say except the usual revolt dribble.
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763dd9 No.299548
>>299543
>It was an enlightening and pretty depressing discussion overall. Shillery by a different name, and I'll go into that later. But I think some understandings were shared. And my opinion of g8tans8tan has been very positively revised, as one person who, despite our obvious differences of opinion, "gets" it. So that was good.
>No change in other plans. About 9 days to go.
Don't post crap like this. your first two sentences were all you had to say with admin tag on. It's like you want drama.
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763dd9 No.299549
>>299527
>When was the last time any of these fuckers dug or ran an op against someone who was not pro-GG?
This.
Also, it's be pointed out repeatedly =redtext=:
THESE D&C SHILLS DON'T ATTACK aGG OR EVEN PLAY VIDEOGAMES
THEY JUST SHITPOST AND WHINE ABOUT PRO-GG PEOPLE ALL DAY ERRY DAY
They're not even subtle
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763dd9 No.299550
>>299548
>Admin tag
???
Oh my
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763dd9 No.299556
>>299485
Zan is still around? I thought that crybaby sperged out back in September after that stream with Variloh?
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763dd9 No.299564
>>299548
Drama was already here, revolt brought it with them.
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763dd9 No.299566
>>299527
Fucking this. This fucking post right here.
They post troll shit then cry about being banned for trolling, then hop on a VPN and do the same shit over and over.
Then instead of proving to Acid or anyone here that they aren't trolls, they just proceed to shit on proGG.
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763dd9 No.299569
the comments in this thread are why I don't think revolt and hq can be merged successfully
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763dd9 No.299571
>>299556
you are correct, lol
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763dd9 No.299582
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763dd9 No.299583
>>299569
Have to agree, the audiences are just too different with opinions that mix like oil and water. The older boards had a similar problem but there were so many more people that it sustained itself by its sheer weight until they caved in on top of themselves. At this point it's just two distinctly different communities and priorities that have been split for half a year and neither is going to go back. Don't really see a problem with that though, that's the biggest feature to 8chan. You don't have to deal with people you don't want to deal with because you can fuck off and do your own thing. Merging seems like an antiquated idea.
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763dd9 No.299585
>>299583
I don't think it's a problem either. Also I don't know if you guys noticed but KiA has basically died. PCMR is doing more gamergate shit than KiA on reddit now. I'd be surprised if all of the kia users who give a shit haven't migrated to hq or other non-gg boards already
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763dd9 No.299594
>>299582
>"ill kill you guise"
[goldblum disbelieves]
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763dd9 No.299599
>>299585
Personally, I blame Twitter. The people who went to Revolt were the ones who got (in my opinion) too invested with Twitter and the people on it. They started to focus more on what they saw every day (e-celebs posting on twitter) instead of info digging and the like. So when there was a call to cut down on the e-celeb stuff, they lashed out and separated.
I've never had a Twitter account, and never plan to. I have no idea who 90% of the people being named are. Yet, because of this, they can't manipulate me or have any impact on how I support GG.
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763dd9 No.299602
>>299599
Yeah, I agree with that.
twitter is so focused on infighting that the Revolts think that's the major part of gamergate.
So when they got told to tone down on the obsession with e-celebs and interboard spergouts, they flipped their shit
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763dd9 No.299606
>>299582
Man zan can sure talk shit, but the moment anything goes towards him he threatens to kill. kek
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763dd9 No.299607
Read a good portion, all I saw was Acid basically not caring about the shit ayytists were throwing at him (which is all the typical /ggrevolt/ bs we've already seen repeatedly).
What is this supposed to prove?
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763dd9 No.299608
>>299527
Also this. Great post anon.
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763dd9 No.299609
>>299548
> It's like you want drama.
Look the thread you're in fag
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763dd9 No.299614
>>299606
Zan's got some pretty obvious skeletons in his closet. There's no other reason why he would sperg out so frequently on people.
>>299607
According to revolt it's supposed to prove that Acid is AyyTeam? That's what I'm getting from their threads. As usual though they're drawing conclusions from things that aren't there.
>>299527
>It's a shame to recognize a number of ex-GG burnouts in the channel.
Not surprised that there's a bunch of ex-GG fags involved in shilling /ggrevolt/. AyyTeam was too obvious, so I guess making an entire board that appeared to be on the level was the next logical step.
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763dd9 No.299620
>>299607
Thread wasn't made with the intention to prove a position but rather to simply provide the information so that anyone can see it with their own eyes and come their own conclusions. No false rumors are needed.
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763dd9 No.299622
Had to figure out where to find these because lolirc, but here you go. Log time.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=50762103982399266833
The point of the IRC chat was to have a sitdown with the people talked about in the other thread and just see what kind of ideas would be exchanged. I got to say my piece, and they got to say theirs. Even Soviet Russia and the US had a hotline call during the Cold War.
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763dd9 No.299623
>>299622
>comparing this to the cold war
man, you need to relax
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763dd9 No.299633
>>299623
read is as "if Russia and the USA could have a hotline despite cold war, we sure as hell can get on an IRC together and talk"
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763dd9 No.299644
>>299606
>>299594
the context is maksev
thinks "the acid man militia" is threatening him or something, it's not entirely stupid but it's pretty dumb
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763dd9 No.299670
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763dd9 No.299675
>>299670
They actually are.
I wonder who's doing them?
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763dd9 No.299676
>>299644
the context was to trigger as much autism as possible.
>>299675
Some /v/irigins who probably believe what they write too.
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763dd9 No.299677
>>299614
>skeletons
>people (albeit it trolling) saying they want to hunt down people irl over shitposting
>skeletons
I don't blaim a nigger would you ever want to meet one of these people at your doorstep?
There are alot of really paranoid fucking crazy people that have hung around gg (look at s4t).
He might be sperging but he's not wrong.
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763dd9 No.299699
>>299599
>I've never had a Twitter account, and never plan to. I have no idea who 90% of the people being named are. Yet, because of this, they can't manipulate me or have any impact on how I support GG.
Good for you. I made a twatter in early 2015. Every 2-3 weeks I am thinking about deleating my account… Twitter has cancer build in how the site works in general.
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763dd9 No.299700
>>299622 & >>299644
Nice to see people talking.
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763dd9 No.299719
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763dd9 No.299798
>>299715
Scariest thing in that whole log is Kellys autism. You fucked up big time when endo sounds like a reasonable and collected person compared to you.
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763dd9 No.299816
Okay, that's good, now what can we do to start getting us back in the top three, and to start getting people back into Gamergate? Everyone ran to KiA to avoid all this drama. We need to start doing fucking ops again!!!
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763dd9 No.299829
>>299569
Obviously they can't be merged succesfully.
Anyone that stuck around here stuck around because they like it and anyone who didn't left because they don't.
If we wanted a revolt like board we'd go to fucking /ggrevolt/
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763dd9 No.299834
>>299798
Kelly has his autism on full-blast in text-based settings. In voice it's less obvious, it really comes out on twitter.
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763dd9 No.299885
>>299476
> [Wednesday 18 November 2015] [00:06:38] <endomophosis> roberts rules of order
I can't lie. I've always had a soft spot for endomophosis. He's my kind of autist.
>>299543
Acid I don't even know why you got involved in all this LARP level drama with these guys. Hours and hours of this shit and no-one with a straight answer. I can't even figure out what the problem was.
Drama is cancer. You're good at running the board so just do that and avoid drama.
/gamergatehq/ ended up as the largest GG board because Anons, myself included, looked at all the boards over time and stayed at this one. Not because of what topic were and were not allowed, not because of drama wars, not because of decisions over direction or topics but most probably because you and your team are better at running a board. Any board. This isn't something that requires a lot of direction or planning, just common sense which I think you've got. Don't get a swollen head over this comment either faggot.
I don't even know what all these faggots are arguing about. Just keep running the board. Let the users post. If you ever feel like flaking out a la Blade, take a break or find a successor.
TL;DR Stop caring about drama.
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763dd9 No.299886
>>299798
God that fucker was trying. Everything he said was either outright sperg or some creepy arrogance. You could tell he was from some atheist forum because he only knows how to debate through calling out logical fallacies.
>>299816
I have a feeling that this will all be over one way or another when the site transitions to infinity. My opinion is that neither side should have a BO in the next world.
>>299885
Funnily enough, potatomorphis was very professional. Although he could not read the climate and everyone was ignoring him at the time, he did try to ask some decent questions.
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763dd9 No.299902
>>299885
Drama wars were a factor. There was FUD going around about both of the new boards being owned by the same group of people that had sunk the last two boards. HQ started winning the competition when word got out that Acid Man was a well known tripfag from /v/ and was not part of that group, and it helped that HQ had a higher S/N ratio.
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763dd9 No.299903
>>299614
> AyyTeam was too obvious, so I guess making an entire board that appeared to be on the level was the next logical step.
What was the story behind AyyTeam, anyway? There was a group of Twitter/IRC buddies calling themselves that, and there was a lot of anti-GG shilling and trolling that was credited to Ayy Team. Everyone came to agree that Ayy Team was an anti-GG op. The Meowstic log was described as an Ayy Team log. However, anons claiming to be Ayy Team denied that the people in the log were Ayy Teamers. Is it possible that the Ayy Team name was stolen by joe-jobbers, or were Ayy Teamers trolling us from the group's beginning? Is there any relationship between Ayy Team and known troublemaking revoltards?
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763dd9 No.299932
>>299885
Screen-cap this post Acid you degenerate
Look at it every morning
let it guide you to be a better BO
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763dd9 No.299949
>>299885
Thanks for the vote of confidence, anon. I do the best I can, I just ain't perfect.
This drama has been largely manufactured from a pretty small source, and used to bait other people (including me, sadly) into it deliberately. It'll stop when they stop, but probably not before.
8chan days left.
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763dd9 No.299959
>>299949
Personally, I don't think I like you as a person or would want to be your friend IRL; that's irrelevant to acting as GGHQ's BO, and while I don't agree with all your decisions you've made as BO, I don't think you're doing a bad job. Faggot.
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763dd9 No.300177
>>299903
Some people in burgersandfries talked about an ayyteam irc channel, and the main ones associating with it are all the major Twitter autists. It's a pretty clear social circle if you look around for it that all blows smoke up each other's asses, and while it isn't some 'team' it is obvious that this is a group.
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763dd9 No.300212
>>300177
Ayyteam actually has more overlap with some of GNAA than they do the Cancer Crew. We were wrong about that at the beginning.
But their autism was contagious. As the IRCfags started to get burned out on #GG, some of them started hanging around with Ayyteam on social media and doing it for the lulz until it culminated in /gamergate/ being destroyed. They contracted the attitude of the ayytists, but they weren't actually Ayyteam themselves.
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763dd9 No.300215
>>300212
>Ayyteam actually has more overlap with some of GNAA than they do the Cancer Crew
Teridax doesn't represent all of ayyteam.
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763dd9 No.300255
>>300215
>>300215
This is teridax.
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763dd9 No.300284
>>300215
Ayy Team wishes they were as unrelenting in their faggotry as Teridax.
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763dd9 No.300296
>>300255
>we're not butthurt, we're just friends having a good time being friendly friends with our friends as friends
>Teridax 2015, on why he and a handful of people he knows online spend countless hours trying sabotage a consumer revolt
that fucking guy, what a dipshit.
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763dd9 No.300314
>>299902
>HQ started winning the competition when word got out that Acid Man was a well known tripfag from /v/ and was not part of that group
I'm kinda beginning to wonder, did this revoltard trend of shitting on Acid and /gghq/ start happening when we migrated to this board? Is this the reason why these IRC dipshits were defending the near-incessant shitposting that led to the purge on this board?
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763dd9 No.300337
You know what is amazing to me? We have all these great Happenings and finally some really good odn threads regarding killing kotaku
yet you faggits continue to talk about this dumb shit
Especially you acid why don't you fucking contribute to the kotaku operation instead of arguing about stupid e dick drama.
This how come gg always Fucks itself over because there are too many twitter faggots in gg who only care about drama and identity.
Go to the fucking kotaku threads and do something useful faggots
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763dd9 No.300351
>>299543
Acidman that channel is fucking retarded and awful, I left quickly. Wish I knew you were coming on I would have liked to say hi.
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763dd9 No.300353
those IRC retards want to remove you
they want to make you disappear and they will use tricks and deception and lie right to your face to get what they want. Ignore them. Don't talk to them. Don't let them manipulate you. They want to ruin this board and destroy gamergate.
If they cared about gamergate and didn't like your moderation or something they could just create their own board. The only reason they don't do this is because they don't want their own board, they want to steal yours, remove it from you.
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763dd9 No.300355
>>300314
They had no idea who Acid Man was.
They also have no idea what actually happened when it came to the masses because they were never on /v/ to realize or understand it. The information they have on the creation of /gamergatehq/ has two sources: People who were working behind the scenes trying to manipulate things and Reddit. Expect a lot of errors and misconceptions.
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763dd9 No.300356
>>300314
Basically yes. Zan in particular was massively butthurt that GGHQ came from behind to take /gg/s spot. That it was some kind of conspiracy was and seemingly is a pretty popular thought in their ranks. The only conspiracy was /v/ being pissed and distrustful, me being known, and me asking Kern to shill a tweet for me. I finally understood what they were mad about during that IRC talk. They even asked repeatedly if I was being directed on how to run the board by outsiders.
It isn't complicated. A subgroup of them wanted to have control over the next hub like they had over /gamergate/, so they could run it the way they wanted. Not only did they not get control of the hub after I stepped in, but I wound up banning most of them at various times for the shit they would do. I called them shills whenever they got caught supporting their own shit as anons, and shit talked their e-celeb personas even when I didn't know it was them, because they were backing "the shills".
That is not how they would have ran the board, therefore I am in the wrong and need to go. Their logic kind of stops at that point, unless they left out some elaborations from the discussion.
The funny part is, the evidence suggests that this is all being done by a subgroup of the IRCfags, maybe without the involvement or knowledge of the others. So the ones not involved get butthurt and sperg defensively when the group gets called out over it, making them look like part of the problem. But that is because the lines between the groups and who is doing what were kept intentionally blurry for plausible deniability. Even they don't know the entirety of what each other are up to.
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763dd9 No.300387
>>300356
Sounds like two competing narrative to me. Proof?
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763dd9 No.300391
>>300296
You autistic nerds are fearmongering and hating something that hasn't existed for months and barely existed at the time. Most of them hate each other anyway. Teridax was also never a member. He considered all of them nerds who stole his jokes. AFAIK he only liked a handful of them.
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763dd9 No.300396
>>300387
I'm working on a thing. That anon with the diagram gave me an idea so I'm trying to learn how to make them myself.
Part of this problem came from both sides obfuscating information, meant to keep it from aGG, but inadvertently keeping it from each other as well. It put the IRCfags and the megathreads at odds, with me on the default side of the latter and GGHQ itself kind of in the middle. Thing was, neither /v/ nor I really realized what "shills" we were fighting because their damned egos wouldn't let them talk about anything from their super sekrit clubhouse.
Drybones also had a lot more to do with it than I ever realized. He and moltar were basically running things there after Thidran fucked off the first time. Suddenly I knew why he became massively asshurt at me for banning "shills" despite me sticking up for him previously.
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763dd9 No.300400
>>300396
>>300396
Im going to repeat this again. Why the fuck are still talking about fucktard meta drama instead of contributing to the kotaku op or any one of a dozen more important threads?
Why is it that the only fucking time you talk to us it's to stir shit with meta drama? The accusation has been made that you are part of ayyteam. Here we see you in an IRC chat with many of them, there are tons of Happenings going on
yet all you want to talk about is shill trash
You are either doing this on purpose to help these faggots or you are an idiot.
Nobody fucking cards about ayyshills
Nobody fucking cares about attention whore e celeb flame outs
Nobody fucking cared about board autism.
Now why the fuck don't I ever see you discussing ops here or on /v/ anymore but you have no problem OBSSESSING over ayycancers?
You are fucking bothering the shit out of those of us trying to do work here right now (like blowing kotaku up with mini nukes). Either shut up about this shit or kindly help us send emails and get off your fucking ass.
Fuck if this makes you mad you need to hear it. The fuck happened to don't touch the poop? This entire thread is poop.
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763dd9 No.300402
>>300400
*cares
*are you still talking
fucking spelling sorry
Yea also
>drybones
You mean the faggot who always got relevance and attention by making other figures in gg talk about his shit drybones? Why even mention this faggot that's literally what he would want you to do
Stop fucking feeding these people please for Fucks sake acid
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763dd9 No.300404
>>300400
You realize that talking through and handling the meta shit is part of the BO's job right? Broadly interpreted, it might be his only job.
You don't like me, I get it. But let me handle this crapola and go back to what you are here to do.
I still send emails, by the way. Multitasking nigga.
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763dd9 No.300414
>>300396
>anon with the diagram gave me an idea
That'd be tinfoil, not proof.
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763dd9 No.300417
>>300404
writing emails about vg journalism or about TPP?
If anything, there should be dig threads on congress people, and putting pressure on them.
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763dd9 No.300421
>>300396
crybones and moltard got massively asshurt when their irc circlejerk shills couldn't get anon to stop posting john flynt pictures, meanwhile they were releasing dox like sargons under billwaggoner twitter accounts. this was back in the early #ggmonk days. they were non operable cancer from the start.
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763dd9 No.300426
>>300404
>is part of your job
>humoring ayytists
No that is not at all part of your job your job is to keep these people out. Feeding them and giving them more attention has done and is doing the opposite.
If it were a resolvable meta issue WITHIN the community of this board you would be right.
But it's not. These people are not even within gg and openly admit as much.
So again, why the fuck are you humoring this when you could be helping with any one of a dozen ops?
Or are you part of these faggots and lying to us?
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763dd9 No.300427
>>300404
PS
No actually I don't have a problem with you personally.
I simply trust nobody at this point. Considering how much other community heads and public gg figures have burned us, I think that is more than warranted. More than half of these people turned out to be lying cash scammers, sjws, goons, or combinations of these. Of that at least Jim was right.
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763dd9 No.300431
>>300396
>That anon with the diagram gave me an idea so I'm trying to learn how to make them myself.
At least try not to post it under the BO tag/Namefield or tripcode
In fact make the diagram realize how stupid and tinfoilly it is then delete it
And never speak of it again
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763dd9 No.300521
>>300356
This actually clears up a lot of things, and it explains the persistent vitriol that's been coming from these IRCfags and revoltards. It was all about you from the very beginning of this board's inception, not the purge or your moderation practices.
Chances are, they don't give two fucks about your moderation practices so much as the fact that you own the main GG imageboard instead of them.
They've probably been thinking about forming a competitor board like revolt for while after /gghq/ was formed, but they didn't do it until they had a chance of getting users to switch over (which they attempted when you did the purge). I wouldn't be surprised if the shitposting prior to the purge was their attempt to market revolt to the anti-moderation crowd once you finally cracked down on them.
This is coming from a guy who supports the idea of boycotting devs who caves into SJWs and alter their own games as such–These revoltards tried to appeal to us by allowing for boycotting discussions, only to lure us into a board that does nothing but bitch about this place. Glad I didn't make the switch.
Ultimately, this just reaffirms the fact that you shouldn't be giving these imbeciles even an ounce of your attention. They're just petty assholes that want control of this board.
Now here's an even bigger question: What is it about Gamergate that drew in these guys to begin with?
You could assume they're trolls, which to an extent, they can be, but the way they operate seems needlessly complicated to be a practical troll OP. Some say they themselves are SJWs, but I'm doubtful: If they're SJWs, why would they spend countless hours on streams and IRC chat rooms talking about how they politically disagree with SJWs?
If the IRCfags have deeper personal motivations, that might explain it: They (or at least a majority) are probably driven more by IRL politics than by video games.
How many of these guys have been drawn into GG as a result of hearing it on a chan site, as opposed to hearing it from Youtubers who talk nothing but politics (like Internet Aristocrat or King of Pol)? How many of these guys have been exposed to the chan sites for the first time as a result of GG?
I used to keep up with many of their streams before Zan became a prick. I'm sure you know they like to go off-topic A LOT: How often have you seen these guys spend their time on these streams talking about non-gaming issues like "cultural marxism", political bias in non-gaming media, or liberal/SJW influence in universities? How many of them believed S4T's Common Core crap?
I can even recall on one GG stream where Zan spent 30-40 minutes bitching about how the Wall Street bankers/CEOs fucked up the economy in 2009. Holy fuck, he sounded like an emo douche that day.
I think that if the IRCfags controlled all outlets of GG, they could push some kind of extreme-libertarian sociopolitical narrative that's anti-SJW/media beyond just video games or games media. If this is the case, then seeing a veteran from /v/ as the BO for the main GG board would definitely cause a lot of butthurt, because they know he'll likely care more about video games instead of politics.
Even though /pol/ is our ally, I think we as GG could've done a better job of keeping a degree of separation between vidya and RL politics. It's one thing when SJWs or game media tries to push politics into our games, it's a different matter when we gamers try to expand into politics ourselves. We'd just attract opportunistic assholes that couldn't give a shit about games if they had the choice.
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763dd9 No.300532
>>300521
Not quite. I'm pretty well convinced by both the evidence and various conversations that they started all this with good intentions.
Their idea to push a boycott didn't rely on the boycott actually having an effect on sales. Rather they wanted to use it to take credit for sales slumps that were already going to happen, like the Black Friday dip in sales last year that resulted from the Gamers Are Dead articles. They wanted to push it to give #GG credit for it as a way to make us bigger and get the dev communities to notice us. Not a bad idea, but one that was presented poorly at the time IMO. Had I known that was what the goal really was, I would have backed the boycott idea personally. Opposition chiefly comes from the idea that we don't have the numbers to actually damage a game's sales, so boycotting sets us up for failure and gives aGG ammo - but in this specific context it probably would have worked.
"#GG Illuminati" is just a meme. To most of them. An in-joke that got started because they were a little club of guys who owned so much of #GGs infrastructure. The problem is that several of them, at various times, have tried to take the meme into reality.
We did something similar here.
/v/ (hidden base) >>>> /gg/ - /gamergate/ (semipublic hub and proving ground for ideas) >>>> KiA and Twitter (masses)
In parallel they had
Wannabe Leaderfags (various hidden IRCs) >>>> #Luminati (the IRCfag clubhouse) >>>> 8chan and Twitter (public exposure)
Up until January or so, the two sides generally worked in parallel without knowing about eachother. The IRC guys forgot all about /v/ as 8chan's hidden headquarters, and /v/ forgot all about the IRC guys, calling #Luminati a tinfoil meme from KoP.
When GGHQ came along, the two got put at odds because the IRC guys were used to no moderation and being able to shill their ideas on the board as anons, and because it was /v/s influence that stepped on their dick and made this board successful when /gg/ was originally at the top. To quote one /v/eteran when GGHQ came out on top: "Did they forget we were here?"
Since then its been a cycle of butthurt with the leaderfags at the top wanting to get rid of this board, /v/, and me so things could go back to the way they liked it before. Everything since has spiralled out from that. A lot of them are just there to meme and shitpost and don't take the #Luminati shit seriously (i.e. "Triangleposting"), but the handful that do are the problem.
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763dd9 No.300548
>>299622
You don't need to understand a mental patients perspective to know they're fucking crazy.
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763dd9 No.300560
>>300532
Huh. So on a greater scale, /gghq/ and revolt are essentially in a proxy conflict of sorts between /v/ and IRCfags? All this happened because GG'ers in /v/ wanted a GG board that actually establishes some semblance of order in a community that could easily go out of hand due to its anonymous nature?
The IRCfags' lack of experience with chan boards is telling. They seriously need to stop looking at the chaos on /b/ as representative for how all chan boards work and realize that different boards on different chans have their own respective rules/norms. If S4T's bantering is any indication, at least some of them seem to be under the impression that there's a single underlying "chan culture", when in reality every board/chan have their own respective "cultures".
On the other hand though, I have still some serious doubts about the IRCfags' intentions since the previous two board owners who fucked up their respective GG boards were both closely associated with them. Even if you do back down like they want you to, what have they done to reassure anyone that whatever BO they want to put into power won't destroy the board like the previous ones did? Despite the fact that Niko and Blade really made a lot of anons distrustful towards BOs sabotaging their own boards, the IRCfags are still essentially demanding that the BO come from their group and not anywhere else, even though the previous two that were associated with them had fucked everything up?
I'm also wondering, have the guys over at /v/ been able to do anything about this issue? Don't tell me you've been going at it alone this whole time.
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763dd9 No.300564
>>300560
>Proxy conflict
That's a pretty good description, actually.
When half/v/ first migrated here, we had a big debate on whether we should use /v/ for GG discussion or to make a dedicated board. In the end we decided to do both. A dedicated and public board to serve as an info dumping ground and honeypot for shills and trolls (hence /v/'s old habit of calling the /gg/ board /honeypot/), and a megathread on /v/ where the real work would happen, tucked away safely beyond the bump limit and out of sight. GGHQ was different. When I made it my intent was to try and keep the shills and trolls at bay so the board could come into its own, and also to mend the rift that 7 months of divide-and-conquer had placed between /pol/ and the rest of #GG. I wasn't going to let the board be a honeypot any more, but a proper #GG hub for all the anons here.
Because the threads were small and tight-knit we had a retarded fast reaction time to HAPPENINGs, and clerics from /v/ used to post on the /gg/ board, /pol/, Twitter, and KiA to keep people coordinated. We were the think-tank, the go-betweens, the couriers, and the messenger boys for the rest of #GamerGate until SkyNet came along. Before I started doing ad updates in January, that part of /v/ was my primary job. You'll probably remember my giant walls of redtext explaining #OP ideas appearing on the board every so often back then.
Many of the ones involved on the IRC side came from either /pol/, /b/, or both. Zan, notably, is an anti-censorship /pol/ack according to some info. That's part of why this board's style put such a burr up his ass. Anything that isn't /b/-style unlimited free speech might as well be Karl Marx's personal board to him. Between that and banning him several times, its little wonder he hates me.
>On the other hand though, I have still some serious doubts about the IRCfags' intentions since the previous two board owners who fucked up their respective GG boards were both closely associated with them.
Ayytism is the reason. The IRC guys were just as susceptible to burning out as the rest of us. Blade was the owner of /gamergate/, with Drybones, _Arcon and possibly Thidran himself as moderators. Over time Blade came to resent the strain that #GG put on him, and he started to hate his own board. Meanwhile he had buddied up to Ayyteam and decided to do something "fun" by leaving and torching the place on the way out. He did this without the permission of Drybones and the others, but it was already too late.
>IRCfags are still essentially demanding that the BO come from their group and not anywhere else, even though the previous two that were associated with them had fucked everything up?
Some do and some don't. This is where you have to be careful - not everyone in their group is part of the… whatever you want to call it. The little mini-cabal at the top trying to call the shots that was originally made by Baconfromhell and Thidran. Just like us they've had people come and go, burnout and quit, new people come in, owners of things change hands, etc.
John Kelly, Thidran, and Zan are the ones who most staunchly think they have to be the ones in control. Drybones to an extent also. A lot of the others don't seem to think they could do any better than we've done and don't have a dog in the fight. s8tan is notable for this.
The problem is really that they're just like us. They have an infrastructure like a formal organization, but nobody has any control over anybody else. One faggot can go on a doxing spree, but he dindu nuffin because he's a chill guy in the chats. This is compounded by their habit of inviting in anyone prominent who can keep their mouth shut about the group - "just to hang out." Full disclosure, I was once offered an invitation and declined it, citing my promise to the board. Their rationale for taking over is the same as revolts, and not by coincidence. GGHQ lost a bunch of users, and that's the only proof they need.
>I'm also wondering, have the guys over at /v/ been able to do anything about this issue? Don't tell me you've been going at it alone this whole time.
/v/ didn't know. Fuck, I didn't know. These guys love using Triangleposting to laugh the whole thing off as a meme, and after they burned KoP with it, nobody took any claims about the IRC groups seriously. We just ignored them, and it took the vocaroos being leaked to get people really digging into it for the first time. Yes, apart from the supportive anons here, I've been dealing with it alone up until now.
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763dd9 No.300570
>IRCfags
I just want to point out that there's a lot of GG people on the Rizon network, and many of them have nothing to do with the autism of a certain few. I am an image board user first and foremost, but I idle on #burgersandfries and various other channels just so I can keep tabs on things actively happening and perhaps get involved in the next hot writing project.
Please don't turn using IRC into some sort of boogeyman. IRC is a great tool for organizing certain projects, the "dossier" of last year being a prime example.
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763dd9 No.300571
>>300570
Ironically, #BnF had never little to do with any of this. Some of the people involved used it too, but this all happened in less known channels.
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763dd9 No.300573
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763dd9 No.300604
>>300564
They will always try to pin the number of users lost on anything but themselves and the chaos they instir, and never consider the multiple factors that come into place and add up through time… They're a broken record, and they think everyone is as autistic as they are. Fact is, those that take part in something like this for the long run are always a tiny minority, this is valid for much more than just GG.
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763dd9 No.300613
Guess I'll be the >(1) bitter shill here since I've complained about this before.
It's very obnoxious how now with Ethicsucks gone, Oliver back says he not involved with GG but one look at his feed shows he clearly is, Kelly a full blown autist that get's dunked on constantly, drama down considerably and this great happening with Kotaku, we still have people (including Acid Man) engaging in this drama and still willing to engage with it. Disappointing, honestly.
Please learn not to bite the bait and ignore shills. This "convo" seems to be a huge waste of time and doesn't seem to accomplish anything as no one there was important or mattered.
In the future I really hope all of ya'll, whether John Kelly, Acid Man, Thidran, Zan, or whoever can keep your spaghetti in your pockets for one day. Just one. Non-drama GG is very comfy outside of the e-celeb thread.
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763dd9 No.300623
>>300570
>Please don't turn using IRC into some sort of boogeyman.
>but it's totally all right to blame the entire <insert board here> for the actions of a handful of dindus
The irony.
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763dd9 No.300625
PLEASE READ THE THREAD & GREAT POSTS I MADE THIS WEEKEND & TODAY
THEY'RE EASY TO PICK OUT ON THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE MY NAME ON THEM
PLEASE READ, REPLY, AND ENGAGE WITH CONTENT THAT I POSTED UNDER THE NAME OF "Leader"
PLEASE PARDON THE NAMEFAGGING, BUT I THINK YOU'LL FIND ALL THE STUFF I POST UNDER THE MONIKER "Leader" IS OF RATHER HIGH QUALITY, THANK YOU FOR READING
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763dd9 No.300636
>I think that if the IRCfags controlled all outlets of GG, they could push some kind of extreme-libertarian sociopolitical narrative that's anti-SJW/media beyond just video games or games media.
Yes, that is where it needed to go, why do you think they talk about 'intersectionality", even KIA gets that aspect. But KIA is too worried about PR to even report these people for breaking the law.
>Even though /pol/ is our ally, I think we as GG could've done a better job of keeping a degree of separation between vidya and RL politics.
Have you ever heard that saying "the personal is political", they made it political, because it gave them more tools at their disposal. Now they have gone to google, the UN, congress, because you refused to use political tools.
>>300625
In practice its nice to have a group full of self-sufficient leaders, but in reality a meritocracy doesn't work that way.
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763dd9 No.300637
>>300636
I would also like to mention that I warned you idiots about the UN, Twitter, Reddit censorship months in advance, and you still think the problems is "le ethics in journalism", despite the fact journalism has been corrupt since its inception in the roman empire, I've literally had gg'ers tell me that video games cant be used for indoctrination, and that video games have no effects on the brain.
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763dd9 No.300638
>>300636
>In practice its nice to have a group full of self-sufficient leaders, but in reality a meritocracy doesn't work that way.
bitch-nigger. Bitch retard!
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763dd9 No.300640
>>300637
I thought about considering the points in this post, but there was a name attached. Into the trash it went
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763dd9 No.300644
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763dd9 No.300663
>>300644
Both were being necrobump spammed. If you want to make a new thread about it with updated info, go ahead.
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763dd9 No.300679
>>300623
Nowhere in that post did I say anything of the sort, faggot.
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763dd9 No.300690
>>300663
This.
We bumplocked 3/4 of the catalog a while back to keep a bumpspammer from sliding everything. Just make a new one if you want to discuss those issues some more.
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763dd9 No.300705
Notice after this suddenly the pogostick closet started falling while we've held steady? That and now the pogos are screeching about their favorite conspiracy theories?
Just reading their cancerous "board" gives me a lady-like hateboner.
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763dd9 No.300712
>>300705
Notice how pogostick dropped half of it's UID in a week and no one on the board has said anything about it?
Nov 16 https://archive.is/WZMAV 298 UID
Nov 18 https://archive.is/WKsPu 231 UID
Nov 19 https://archive.is/hNVHL 224 UID
Nov 21 https://archive.is/hg2sP 188 UID
Nov 22 https://archive.is/KsBl9 167 UID
Nov 23 https://archive.is/0GgFO 141 UID
In one week, they've lost over half of their UIDs, and not a peep out of them (aside from them blaming it on Fallout4 and Battlefront which is hilarious because GGHQ's UIDs haven't tanked like theirs have https://archive.is/6qWxc#selection-3913.0-3919.48)
Honestly - I'm beginning to think their constant obsession on Acid "using" VPNs is a deflection strategy. Considering how fast their numbers dropped in a week, there's no way those 298 UIDs were in anyway organic.
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763dd9 No.300743
>>300679
What's wrong? Are you triggered?
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763dd9 No.300806
>>300712
>blaming it on Fallout4 and Battlefront which is hilarious
Proof dramafags don't play videogames botting isn't a videogame, right?
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763dd9 No.300810
>>300806
It's hypocrisy. While that exact comment is probably a joke, it has people actually responding to it because they stroke each others dicks without even thinking that someone posted some dumb shit. At least on GGHQ we call people who have retarded opinions retarded, or at least continue the troll post chain. But over there you could post some retarded explanation and most likely some guy will jump on your dick in approval.
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763dd9 No.300836
>>300705
Held steady? we have nobody posting here. How could we have 250 uid with a third of the posts they have. Knock the delusional bs off. It doesn't get people back. We have less than one post per UID ffs.
We have the active users of around 50 UID, something needs to improve quickly
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763dd9 No.300838
>>300705
>Just reading their cancerous "board" gives me a lady-like hateboner.
are you in london?
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763dd9 No.300842
Fellow self proclaimed ayytism socialites, S8tan and Teridax, still invoking the "Ayyteam dindunuffin and were just shitposters" spiel, when all someone did is just mention them. Please.
Like we don't already know they are just mere shitposting burnouts. No one thinks they are exactly James Bond villains or anything, these burnouts and spergs are still fags though, still sabotaged /gamergate/, and tried to pull the same sabotaging nonsense again, on /gg/.
The same burnouts have been salty about that spoiled attempt ever since Vince, not that ugly nobody trans, Meowbitch, spilled the beans on it.
The burnouts just want Acid to hand over the keys so they or any other group they can coax, will influence or make the same troll they originally planned to make happen at /gg/, happen over here for the lulz.
S8tan is a troll and by his own words in a few of the circlejerk streams, wanted to make friends with groups like gayyteam, speaking of them as a collective himself, and not wanting to expose their sabotage attempts. So I am not surprised that he would sugarcoat and rewrite history.
Sad though, since S8tan is capable of being rational and making good points, due to a lesser abundance of aspergers than the other burnouts in that chat, but with this point, its obvious he is merely trying to troll, and ignore history.
I also remember the boycott spamming. I was all for boycotts until I recognized that S8tan had only gotten the idea from a disingenuous person that he himself claimed was part of "ayyteam" and that they were not really serious about the boycotting issue, they were just purely using it as a hotbutton to cause divisiveness over, and S8tan either didn't
realize at the time or was also in on the fraud.
Either way, it was made quite clear in one of the pastebins posted about these burnouts that they would attempt to "play their cards" right and use anything they can to cause divisiveness here. That they were merely flooding the board with the same exact boycott topics, bumping off operation topics, and then merely using them as trojans to push "rulecuckery" accusations whenever the excess copy topics were deleted, made them all too obvious.
I distinctly remember their topics consisting of of some of the dumbest reasons too. Like the Obsidian boycott they kept spamming and wanting us to do. They wanted to rally a boycott around Obsidian because of the game Pillars of Eternity, not due to corruption, not due to nickel and diming, not due to any gameplay issues, but because one stupid poem was removed, that was only put in there because of a backer and later removed due to an agreement to do so from the same backer and having an optional mod for it instead.
Practically a non issue despite some tranny hambeast crying about it.
Its like these spergs were trying to create drama, then we had similar clone topics like some retard reposting a topic to boycott the likes of some mobile Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy Mevius, because the faggy protagonist's clothes were made less revealing, despite no proof of SJWs demanding he be less revealing(as if they care about dudes having revealing skin, let alone looking like effeminate fuckboys anyway).
The fact that the same people claiming hypocrisy over indifference to that, were just regurgitating posts from Ghazi, made it all too clear that it was just a troll attempt to cause divisiveness.
These kind of endlessly spammed topics caused a bad tastes in users mouths.
Now onto Zan. He is a super sperg, a self admitted one at that, so I can see him flipflopping about sucking gayyteam cock as a collective. Even though he was kissing their ass way before any of these events, in a few of his own streams, dickriding them like a hot ho.
Its rather pointless to invite Zan to any discussion due to his severe KoP levels of idiocy and tendency to just make stupid accusations about who is behind stuff, that he has no basis for. Almost appearing like he is making a deliberate attempt to cause confusion and infighting, if he wasn't such a clear cut retard.
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763dd9 No.300844
>>300836
Honestly there simply isn't a lot going on right now on either board,they have gotten bored with Sargon or Sargon learned to stop feeding them over here there is a noticeable slowdown in activity due to lack of ops & happenings.
Giving cancerous namefags attention is a bad idea
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763dd9 No.300848
Thidran either apparently thinks he can just pretend some of us have not been paying attention, or that he can just act like he knows more than he lets on.
I don't know why Thidran also thinks the possibility of an anti-GG being a part of some meta group like the fools who identified as gayyteam, would be at all enlightening. Ayytism didn't exactly love GG either, and played both sides so finding "pros" or antis among them is nothing groundbreaking.
Then we have Kelly, everyone knows how retarded and narcissistic he is by now. Dumbass couldn't even contain himself from having his own little bitch fight in that chat, he is easily triggered.
In conclusion, I like how many of these fags point out how this board has much less numbers than when it started, yet still want the board to be handed over.
At this point, its all about their petty spite, not being constructive or observing anything based in reality.
If the loss of numbers was due to all the "rulecuckery" then shitty ggrevolt or pogo should have filled up. >>299834
>Less obvious in voice.
You must not have listened to the streams that I have.
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763dd9 No.300849
>>300532
They weren't all in on sabotaging but quite a few of them were useful idiots coaxed by people with the very intention of sabotage. They were Wormtongued.
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763dd9 No.300870
>>300836
>we
If you're talking about you and the rest of revolt, I'll buy it. People posting here every couple of days instead of shitposting on turbo-mode 24/7 doesn't bother me. I just wish a greater number of them would do that instead of lurking.
After the weekend I'm going to try to cool things down over here a little bit. I hope you revoltfriends can do the same. Be nice to be more effective by working together again, wouldn't it? I get that you wanna keep a separate board instead of coming back, but that doesn't mean we can't crosspost and cooperate instead of bitching at each other all the time and biting D&C bait.
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763dd9 No.300872
>>300849
You can STFU at any time now, Zoe.
Grownups are talking, but yes your goony faggot irc friends are pieces of fucking garbage.
On that much, we can agree.
P.S. "Get dunked on."
You may want to work on that whole subtlety thing (i.e. don't repeat your recent millenial twitter phraseology with your othee anon UID.)
Btw, how's Lifschitz, the wind seems to have left his sails? What happened to his daily bile spitting?
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763dd9 No.300873
>>300872
You're retarded, check the user IDs for my other comments, idiot, I'm not defending these fools.
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763dd9 No.300907
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>>300870
Acid, here's the thing.
The D&C is already in. The issue is that now we're focusing on putting things back together instead of focusing on ops. Thing is if this happened 6-8 months ago, we would have picked up on this D&C and quickly contained it.
The problem is the anti-authority nature of this whole consumer revolt. The minute someone is put in charge of a forum to ensure that there isn't any disruptive COINTELPRO going on, there is a element among us that wants a complete wild-west approach and will lose their shit.
At a certain point I have to say that Acid, you've been light on being an Admin, and to be honest, you've been lenient. It's helped this board survive in these lean times.
We just need to light a fire under our collective asses. It's just right now there is this clusterfuck going on, and it has a big-assed COINTELPRO footprint on both our necks.
We've been played like a fiddle. What are we gonna do about it? That's the first thing we need to ask.
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763dd9 No.300914
>>300907
>We've been played like a fiddle. What are we gonna do about it? That's the first thing we need to ask.
Well, we on gghq and could potentially start by uniting with revolt on something like this:
http://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/300817.html
http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/76175.html
Instead of starting an OP to boycott a game, we could try to GET an anti-SJW game like DOAX3 released here.
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763dd9 No.301064
>>300914
This idea deserves a thread.
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763dd9 No.301071
>>300914
> uniting with revolt
I'm not hearing any apologies for their fuckery. No sale.
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763dd9 No.301073
>>301071
No one said unite. Besides we've had plenty of crossposting on actual operations. If people over there are willing to do something and not fuck it up, they are useful in that sense.
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763dd9 No.301113
>>300564
>vocaroos being leaked
yeah, that's bullshit. thebaconfromhell explained this on a livestream that the snippet was taken from a livestream that was public.
maybe you should actually stop lying to people.
src:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeQFheDdn4Y
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763dd9 No.301114
>>300564
>vocaroos being leaked
yeah, that's bullshit. thebaconfromhell explained this on a livestream that the snippet was taken from a livestream that was public.
maybe you should actually stop lying to people.
src:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeQFheDdn4Y
sorry if this is a doublepost
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763dd9 No.301122
>>301114
What does that have to do with anything damage control-kun?
IT was a public live stream,but the retards had no idea anyone was watching cause Thidran would stream that shit 24/24 and who would honestly watch that.
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763dd9 No.301178
>>301122
>IT was a public live stream,but the retards had no idea anyone was watching cause Thidran would stream that shit 24/24 and who would honestly watch that.
to tell you the truth.
I watched the streams every once and a while and bacon was always reminding guests that people are watching including twitch staff when thidran used to stream on twitch.
Watching annons like you demonize them because you want to put words in the mouths of people that you dont talk to is disgusting and what does that do for anyone? absolutely nothing.
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763dd9 No.301583
>>300836
Something that I've noticed on 8chan: the minute any board starts lose numbers for whatever reason then it's over, it never get's them back.
I have never seen a board on 8chan that once died and ever recovered significantly. I'm assuming gghq will be no different.
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763dd9 No.303431
>>299549
Its interesting how smug some of them are, in a way they should realize they are just a different kind of _icz4r
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763dd9 No.303486
>>301583
Hq arises from the dead every week, it's post numbers in the shifter, no new threads, but then boom it goes to 250 UID with less than 150 posts per day?
No other board has this level of autism to keep it on life support.
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763dd9 No.303503
>>301583
8chan is a relatively small site that might as well be 1 year old. So yes, with any small community you will have that problem.
Ironically, it doesn't seem to apply to GGHQ, since everyone comes back when shit goes down.
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763dd9 No.303628
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763dd9 No.326121
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