No.13024
So I just started following this whole Odin Project by Ron Watkins and I am interested in learning more about it. Let's do an overview, shall we?
Zeronet - an FBI honeypot that collects users IP addresses and VPN services, which was later proven by the Daily Beast after the IPs of thousands of 08chan users was leaked.
Tor - same as above, in that the FBI can backdoor your privacy as proven in many hidden service takedowns, but also the Tor project team are massive shitlibs who denounced the Daily Stormer and cut off their exit nodes so that Anglin and Weev had to use custom ones just to keep the site up and running. And Tor websites aren't immune to DDoSing as we've seen with 8kun.
Lokinet - a new experimental Tor alternative, but is still in it's beginning phase so it's vulnerable to attack, but the dev team are otherwise ideologically aligned with 8kun.
Odin - a new alternative that is currently under development and has yet to be released. But the only question is: will it survive prolonged attacks by activists once up? Only time will tell.
So yeah, Tor obviously can still host wrongthink content when it's not under constant attack, but same with Loki. Zeronet is garbage, while Odin has yet to be released. It is Jim/Ron's latest project after Susucoin.
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No.13034
Lokinet is evolving very rapidly. Their session messenger has been getting better exponentially. (it became a little buggy last update, but they should fix it asap)
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No.13060
Is there any more reading to why people think TOR is honeypot, where the argument boils down to more than "the government made it"?
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No.13065
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No.13087
>>13024
I love how you didn't mention i2p you fuckin shill glownigger
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No.13102
>>13024
Isn't odin just a tor wannabe aka hiddenservice blockchain?
It's only censorship circumvention (such as ddos) for the host but keep in mind what the ISP+governments could do, this is to say something like Iran or China firewall-levels.
I saw (your)a thread on /pnd/ about rebuilding the internet, not even close. You need infrastructure not relying on the current one which is to say "if one day all tech or internet provider CEOs just stepped down" and the "great culling" happens then we're all sitting ducks. TL;DR self reliance of internet or basic networks not relying on economy/gov/companies.
Tor isn't even safe, I mean the ISP will still see what you're doing and assuming the proxychain (7 proxies whatever) were of the same ASN or the endpoints being compromised then they could literally identify the user - this is common sense and mainly why I don't use tor or the browser and the only sane way to use it would be over burner but even burner data have packet inspection and block them off or either they're slower than a 96kbps modem - throttled and closed ports.
If any, focus on the end users deployablility of the network infrastructure. We're talking governmental and corporational dysfunction.
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No.13103
>>13102
>tor isn't safe
Forgot to tell why I brought this up, it is to say most people have poor settings with their OS/router/programs.
The average people don't use dpi removing tools, esni dnssec tls DNS, or even bother to use no log vpn/dns which is to say it's not about the safetiness of the service/host but also the user of it.
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No.13758
>Zeronet - an FBI honeypot
Retarded shill detected. Of fucking course your IP is available to others unless you use Tor always mode.
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No.13759
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No.13760
>>13087
>you didn't mention i2p you fuckin shill glownigger
It's written in fucking Go.
Every single user is running the 3rd-party compiled binary on their Windows box.
99.9% of those Windows users do not have the brain capacity to tell if the executiables are compromised.
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No.13761
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No.13762
>>13760
The only retard here is you.
>It's written in fucking Go.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
https://github.com/i2p/i2p.i2p
https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd
>users do not have the brain capacity to tell if the executiables are compromised
That tells nothing about the network itself.
No tool is fail-proof. Tor is no exception. It won't protect you from a targeted attack, but using it is still better than not using.
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No.13806
>>13024
> Tor - same as above, in that the FBI can backdoor your privacy as proven in many hidden service takedowns
server compromise is not Tor compromise
> Tor project team are massive shitlibs who denounced the Daily Stormer and cut off their exit nodes
> cut off their exit nodes
u wot m90
> Lokinet
> Odin
Censorship resistant and distributed networks have existed for ages. Look at gnunet and i2p. You're being sold some shiny new brand to prop up the incompetent, greedy, and klout famers.
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No.13807
>>13103
>dpi removing tools
not a thing
>esni dnssec tls DNS
anybody familiar with these technologies would ever think to string these words together like this
>no log vpn/dns
delete this
>most people have poor settings with their OS/router/programs.
Let's hope you realize (You) are most people.
>>13760
>It's written in fucking Go.
Java, m'lord.
>Every single user is running the 3rd-party compiled binary on their Windows box.
>99.9% of those Windows users do not have the brain capacity to tell if the executiables are compromised.
This is not an argument against i2p. It's also not going to be fixed by any of OPs shillshit
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No.13809
>>13760
At first, I didn't trust you. Now, I know you're fully retarded.
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No.13830
OP is an rarted. Feebs dont have backdoor to Tor anymore. Show proof
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No.14027
I have been interested in technology since childhood. When I got to school and college later, I was a fan of technology and wanted to connect my life with it. Now, in order to enter the university, I need to write a personal statement. I turned to a personal statement writer https://www.personalstatementwriter.com/ so that he could help me write this document well.
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No.14033
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