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 No.131100 [View All]

Had a good run lads but I can't really live anymore, only thing stopping me from killing myself are relatives I don't wanna hurt. Is there any kind of magick that can actually drastically change my reality? Something massively different like make me appear in a completely different dimension/drastically change my body/reverse time? Something like sigils or other simple methods like this for manifesting small changes won't ever be enough to fix my problems. I tried everything else by the way so no need to lecture on psychology/philosophy in this thread. You can realise the illusion/matrix of the material world experientially and still prefer to not live because of the unfixable predicament you're in. If there is truly some way to bring about changes as massive as I have outlined then I would put all my time into the study of it really. Thanks in advance brothers.

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 No.131219

You clearly have no idea what's going on and don't even have a desire to learn (or you are so ashamed of that desire to learn that you can't even admit it to yourself) I'm not trying to psychoanalyze, but thats what my intuition says to me so that's why I'm sharing it. I don't care what you think.

But I am curious. What meaning do you think I prescribed to life and what did you disagree with?

You literally saying that you do think the point of life is to learn. But then you get into your obsession with the demiruge. That's not healthy man.

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 No.131220

>>131219

Translated this post reads:

>I couldn't win a single argument but I clearly won the debate.

>How dare this anon not learn from me, the god of wisdom?

>I don't care what you think but I care enough to have the last say so I'm sharing my "intuition" ( Read : Narcisism)

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 No.131221

>>131220

I am curious about the potential of a contradiction. I see none.

I asked you a question. Why respond if you won't even answer? Stop shitposting you fuck

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 No.131222

>>131208

OMG I forgot the most important part.

To gleam access into the wisdom and spiritual information, you must expand awareness and become one with your spirit, higher self, etc. Many terms, same idea.

My understanding is that the awareness is from soul and it can move closer to ego or closer to spirit. But I fear that taking that statement too literally would cause unnecessary limitation.

Do not let language and words limit you. It is only a tool to communicate, and to help understand through better articulation.

But just because you don't understand, does not mean you do not know.

We know, but we do not know that we know.

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 No.131223

You can't because you haven't suffered enough yet. The roots must scrape against the most barren and jagged of rocks before reaching water.

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 No.131225

>>131208

>The spirit grows as it gathers experiences.

but wouldn't there be more growth if you still had your memories? you could then compare and contrast all the different experiences you've had and would for the most part legitimize concepts like past life karma(although it would still be a bit murky on the question of morality with "good" and "bad" karma).

>your spirit is always the one that has the last say, the final decision.

what's the need for intuition then? and if the spirit already knows what's good for it and what's not when it comes to "growth" why did it choose incarnate in the first place?

>Scientifically, we have skills and abstract memory that cannot be broken.

well when it comes to certain automated functions of the physical body, although with the degeneration of the brain life functions can fail too.

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 No.131228

File: d6a1534751ddff7⋯.png (499.23 KB,815x558,815:558,05189e0b-5c4b-4a86-a254-27….png)

Lurker here

This thread is usless to OP and every one interested in this thread now with you faggots bickering and arguing about bullshit. Please stick to the topic

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 No.131229

>>131228

OP wants a permanent escape from reality.

OP needs to accept responsibility for his environment.

No one can hold his hand to accept responsibility.

This thread is cancer, but the off topic discussion might not be.

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 No.131230

>>131229

I wanted to change my reality by means of magick…. this is a board dedicated to the discussion of magick…..

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 No.131231

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>>131225

>but wouldn't there be more growth if you still had your memories? you could then compare and contrast all the different experiences you've had and would for the most part legitimize concepts like past life karma

Logic does not work outside of a single incarnation. The universe is like a womb for the next level. Logic WILL NOT WORK in the next realm. We can bring our wisdom, but we will be learning from within a completely different ruleset.

Stop thinking with logic. Wisdom cannot be explained with logic. I happen to be quite the expert in articulating abstract concepts though, so maybe you will ask a magical question that can be satisfactorily answered.

>what's the need for intuition then?

Technically, you need zero intution and can get away with just logic within each incarnation. But if you never learn inbetween incarnations you will be stuck in this realm forever…

>and if the spirit already knows what's good for it and what's not

The spirit does not know. It is also learning over many life times. Well not also. It is you. You are it. You act like you are only a part of it. Try playing a different game of pretend. Belief creates reality, at a spiritual/subconscious level. I digress.

>when it comes to "growth" why did it choose incarnate in the first place?

You accept limitation for the possibility of growth. Growth is the goal. It is the end, from which all this is the means to accomplish with.

If you ask what is the point of learning, then I cannot help you. Actually I can, but I don't want to make an essay. I actually would have to relate with some objective sense of morality. Awareness wants to cultivate more awareness. It divides and limits itself so that it can come back together in the experience of growth.

To grow is to make connections. When we are all truly connected in the pure ecstasy of Nirvana, it will be game over and there will be no more growing. It's about the journey not the destination….

Sorry I think I'm painting a picture too big. Just get that we are in this physical realm, we incarnate a few times here, then our spirit levels up and we enter a more advanced realm. How is that? Any questions? Also, have a read on The Egg. Nice story.

http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

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 No.131232

>>131230

Yes you can change your reality but you cannot escape from it. Understand your reality and then affect it.

Your (subjective/limited) reality is a direct result of the filters in your perception.

The universe (objective reality) also is directly affected but your hopes dreams beliefs desires etc.

As above so below.

If, let's say, you suddenly became woke, you would realize that all your thought patterns and subtle energies inside you is where your environment emerged from.

It's so fucking cheesy, but it's the truth.

Be the change you want to see

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 No.131233

holy shit I'm tripping myself out, QUantum field theory, not even once. fucking brain needs to calm down

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 No.131234

>>131231

>Logic WILL NOT WORK in the next realm.

disagree, it applies to 1d, 2d, 3d, 4d and most likely the higher dimensions as well

>wisdom cannot be explained with logick

it literally can be explained with logick, what are you on about

>The spirit does not know. It is also learning over many life times.

so the spirit does not have any useful knowledge to give then

alright, basically new age bullshit : the post, thought you niggas scrammed from /fringe/ a long time ago but seems like there's still some nuggets of new age shit left in here.

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 No.131235

>>131234

The next realm is not physical.

If you have no questions. FUCK OFF

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 No.131236

>>131235

logic does not end after 3d, some of the rules just change, you'd have to be severely mentally retarded to think otherwise

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 No.131237

>>131236

Logic ends when your memory ends.

I am not God. Argue with him.

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 No.131238

>>131237

memory does not end outside the physical, have you ever even lucid dreamed or astral projected?

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 No.131239

>>131238

That's not logic and that is not memory.

You interpret the astral phenomena with physical concepts.

All information is in akashic records and in your astral body you receive those information. It's the same thing as I was describing with wisdom but a higher version.

I mean if you can astral project there you go. THAT IS THE NEXT REALM. And it's not physical. The Three dimensions are completely irrelevant and the concept is only to help you understand your visual stimulus.

You only see visual stimuli because the objective phenomena of the universe manifests as your subjective 3D astral experience.

Now here's the magical thing.

In the physical, you use logic and get "special information" with wisdom.

In the astral, instead of logic and wisdom, there is wisdom and akasha.

What you think is logic is now wisdom, and how you got wisdom is now how you get akasha.

You can argue with semantics, but dude there is no logic in the astral. Look at me, I am so obsessed with logic. I have shit tier astral skills for that very reason!

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 No.131240

There is metaphysics, but no matter how well I understand metaphysics logically it won't make my astral skills any better.

I sure know how to fucking explain it though

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 No.131241

>>131239

here on 8chan /fringe/ we're not larping, we actually discuss spiritual concepts seriously, and when your ideas are critiqued seriously, it's not supposed to be a game of whack a mole against the ideas of said critics, you don't retreat on every single point you make and instead put down an even vaguer more unfalsifiable point in it's place instead.

You're either retarded or a shill, most likely both.

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 No.131242

>>131241

Excuse me? Please tell me a single thing I retreated on.

I mean you could ask me questions on what you see are contradictions, try that at least.

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 No.131243

>>131242

shut the fuck up new age obullshitist

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 No.131244

>>131105

From my experience I see this as a bad sign. I myself can't meditate without empowering these abilities, I do not see a separation.

Learn it. Remember your dreams. Do preliminary exercises and energy work. Just one real experience may heal your soul.

At higher levels you first live fully operational parallel lives, then you exist simultaneously in both worlds until you may escape from here securely. It's essentially immortality, ascension, etc.

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 No.131245

>>131244

You don't have any experience obullshitist

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 No.131257

>>131243

thank you

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 No.131264

>all these 'dude we're here to learn bro' new age LARPers

Absolute state of /fringe/. Anyway, to the OP: if you master astral projection you will be able to exit your body without ever having to return to it (effectively killing 'yourself'). You'll then be out and about in the non-physical realm.

I've also read stories about people using lucid dreams (for lack of a better term) as a sort of portal into a different world where they stay for a prolonged period of time, but they all obviously end up returning home or else we wouldn't have their stories -but maybe that's worth looking into.

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 No.131267

>>131264

You should keep your advice exclusively to things you have experienced yourself. We all should. This board would be much quieter and wiser.

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 No.131270

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 No.131297

>>131100

OP you honestly sound like a Jew trying to sow the seeds of self-destruction in our woke anti-semitic board. If you are not Jewish and are being sincere, good luck finding a sense of wellness somehow. I recommend meditating in the forest to heal your self. But I hate posts like the sort you made, I really do. That sort of shit you say can mess with vulnerable peoples minds and its not cool. You really seem like a jew to me. If you are not a jew then God bless you and good luck getting more optimism in life.

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 No.131307

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>>131297

>muh jews

>in a thread completely unrelated to it

This thread just can't stop getting worse and worse

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 No.131363

>>131267

>You should keep your advice exclusively to things you have experienced yourself.

This is the single best piece of occult advice that could be heeded. T. legitimate occultist!

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 No.131371

>>131111

this. you don't need to kill yourself to end your life. go do some solo travelling or skydive or some shit. even if it costs most of your money, the alternative if death so you say, and that money is meaningless when you are dead.

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 No.131381

>>131223

Why are you indigo pills such pain sluts?

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 No.131393

>>131381

Pain is a byproduct of intelligence and intelligence is a byproduct of evolution. The more evolved a being becomes the greater its potential for suffering becomes. Full exploration of the depths of this suffering is necessary for any sort of meaningful advancement. If you find this unmanageable you should strive for the life of a mindless insect, not a god.

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 No.131411

>>131182

Dogs can have very comfy lives. Western first world doggos are a top tier reincarnation choice right now

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 No.131412

>>131393

t confused egoist with little to none spiritual awareness

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 No.131460

File: 4f448daac46bb21⋯.jpg (76.22 KB,581x1200,581:1200,4f448daac46bb216c048625660….jpg)

OP if you're looking for a sorcerous solution to your problems, there's only one technique that I can guarantee will change your life for the better:

Drink human blood.

It can't be consensual. It can't be from someone less pure than you. Females are better than males. Also drinking boiblood is gay.

>Prove it

This is what elite sorcerers have been doing since before written history

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 No.131461

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>>131460

>tranime picture

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 No.131786

>>131460

The elites also drink consentual blood as well. Ive drank lots of blood in my life and I can't say it's made life any better but the consumption of blood most definitely has magical benefit

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 No.131788

>>131786

cheeky cunt

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 No.131794

>>131460

no wonder donating blood is such a popular thing

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 No.131798

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 No.131828

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 No.131830

>>131828

ok edward snowden

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 No.131833

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 No.131835

>>131828

>>131833

This kid is like rage comics tier in terms of irrelevance and overall cringe factor.

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 No.131837

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 No.131860

>>131835

He's good looking though (no homo).

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 No.131864

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 No.131950

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