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I'm leaving my firewall to share this revolutionary piece of me-me. The cypercensor death squad is on my trail… I don't have long. This is the only way to keep free speech alive and fight the ministry of truth. Big Brother is always watching. But I won't whyne about it.

>>122361

The beauty of symmetry is even when you cut it in half, you can still perfectly imagine the other half. Quality meme fam post more.

~Epyc Wynn

>>122360

I don't get it.

~Epyc Wynn

Everybody knows a rhyme is a spell

Is this containment thread literally hell?

Let's say it once, no, let's all say it thrice

It's long past time Epyc Whynn was put on ice.

Everyone knows that a rhyme is a spell

Ever wonder what his sigil is made to compel?

The man serves the meme with all of his life

The meme is the man and the boy is its wife.

Oh yes, everybody knows that a rhyme is a spell

Do you think he believes that he's the next Orwell?

On that particular note, I'll keep my thoughts to myself

Instead, I think I'll end on "it's not gay if it's an elf!".

>>122388

top rhyme

second rhyme

comeback

bottom rhyme

~Epyc Wynn

>>122464

Pleasure is a form of relaxation.

~Epyc Wynn

>objectivity

XD

>>122492

>implying there is no objectivity

>implying there is only subjectivity

>relativism

>postmodernism

>social constructivism

>far-left

I know you're a chaos mage wannabe, so I'll assume you aren't trying to blindly back the far-left and I'll tell you like it really is. A long time ago some Nazi fuckos tried to destroy the world and obtain world domination, failed in their dumbass pursuit under a druggy all because they kept changing their tank designs, and as a result the world was pissed off that science which was viewed as ethical, was used to systematically create this fucked up mass genocide and military power that retards on /pol/ can't deny without citing 1500 false fallacious or debunked pieces of evidence their grandmother pulled out of her racist asshole because she blamed blacks for her house's value going down.

Because of that, since science is viewed as a product of modernism, people shifted to believing science isn't the way to go and started embracing the bullshit of postmodernism. Postmodernism is basically the philosophy of destroying boundaries of thought and mind and belittling everything as a relative equal opinion. This means taking a shit and holding it up to someone's face and calling it gold was a valid tactic in debate, as far as a postmodernist was concerned nothing is superior and everything is relative and unjustified because to them, everything is an opinion rooted solely in opinion, with observations also just being opinions.

Chaos Magic, is just postmodernism. You can call it a series of special systems, but the core of Chaos Magic is everything being relative information you can bend any fucking way you want to and thus ethics and hierarchies are just forms of oppression restricting your thoughts and mind.

Postmodernism is a reactionary joke as poorly defined as it is conceived and you'd do yourself a great favor to abandon it. You cannot make the claim that everything is subjective without that claim being invalid, because in doing so you are either making an objective claim, thus undermining the claim, or you are making a subjective claim, making that claim bullshit and thus implying there are exceptions and in turn objectivity is real. In either scenario, you've just proven objectivity real.

Learn more philosophies, become familiar with the tactics of postmodernism, and learn why people believe it's anti-intelligence horseshit, which it objectively is.

Proof of this objectivity: experience of realization built upon previous experiences I have that you cannot replicate for yourself unless you choose to. I don't bother a whole lot with word-based objectivity as postmodern-leaning people have it in their thick shit-ridden skulls that claiming "I don't believe you" is a good enough basis for proving a word-based claim of objectivity is false because "I said so."

~Epyc Wynn

>>122492

>yfw this sigil is more powerful than every memetic epork wine&dyne has ever made

Literally LOLin' like a loon.

>>122532

>all that drek

>all those electrons pushed to no end

>all those wordshapes conveying zero meaning

You are what you hate. Your own Shadow blinds you to what is just before your face.

~Epik Pynhead

<pic unrelated

>>122532

>he believes in the holocaust

Treblinka body count.

Gas chamber doors.

Soviet liberated territory.

<3

>>122540

You aren't the true Epyc Wynn. I am the true Epyc Wynn.

>>122541

You just ignored a thorough explanation of the problems with viewing everything as relative in pursuit of a shitty short rhetorical comeback with no attempt at logic. You really are a postmodernist.

>>122549

Posting debunked fallacious information does not suddenly mean you are correct; it does however heavily indicate your own wrongness. Just because contrary information to the mainstream exists does not mean it is true just because other people say it is.

~Epyc Wynn

>>122724

>insisting Epyc Wynn should make the first move

If that is what you wish.

Let's start you off simple with reading this full single web page and watching the full video, and then respond however you see fit.

https://www.ushmm.org/confront-antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion

~Epyc Wynn

>>122532

just look what blossomed forth from two little letters, my my. the power of chaos at work? XDXDXD

yes, my friend, all of that and more. enjoy probing the depths of your own ego. the world could anything, wanting it to be fixed and definable does nothing to change that.

you want to know something about chaos that isn't butthurt whining by stamp collectors? it contains and allows for your entire system. the other side of the not-as-insulting-as-you-seem-to-think "I don't believe you" is the "I do believe you when you are useful to me." reality labyrinth versus tunnel. you can pursue esoteric my little ponyism all you like, but I'm here for the guns.

interpret life as you will, I won't slander your perfect path. the true heart of chaos magic is closer to Taoism than 20th century fashion. less about stubbornly proclaiming "this is like this because I want it to be," so much as it is realizing and coping with the inadequacies of language and the resultant thoughtforms to fully apprehend reality. starting to swing the bat before the ball arrives yields a better chance of hitting even if it doesn't seem to make sense to swing when there is no ball here yet.

cute rant about /pol/ though, emojimancer friend. post a pic of your bookshelf and let's see how many philosophies ensnare you.

>>122767

was in reply to >>122765

>>122735

No I'm Epyc Wynn.

~Epyc Wynn

>>122737

Traditionalism, modernism, postmodernism, and metamodernism. Traditionalism seeks to maintain and perfect existing boundaries of thought and relies on a dogmatic understanding of reality. Modernism seeks to replace or alter existing boundaries of thought and relies on a humanist understanding of reality. Postmodernism seeks to weaken and destroy boundaries of thought and relies on a posthumanist understanding of reality. Metamodernism seeks to balance these three approaches in achieving the best set of boundaries of thought possible and relies on a metahumanist understanding of reality; though the term metahumanism is strictly a science fictional term for superheroes at the present moment. However, metahumanism is the closest term for the notion humans should view themselves as information meant to be empowered through appropriately balancing their information in relation to their unique individual situations.

Chaos Magic is just podermodernism. Both rely on logic-defying claims, insistence over proof, quantity of arguments over quality of arguments, and insisting inequality is always oppression even if this insistence hypocritically poses itself as a superior argument which in itself is a form of inequality by conveying other arguments are inferior and thus inequal in standing.

The dose makes the poison. If you don't balance postmodernism with traditionalist, modernist, and the capstone metamodernist viewpoins, either through indirect understanding of these philosophies (such as through 4-element theory), or through direct study, you will come out poisoned with the follies of relying on of these approaches individually. The balancing of traditionalism, modernism, postmodernism, and metamodernism, most effectively nullifies the fallacies and follies that would otherwise exist without this balancing in value. That is not to say they are equal in value; merely that they must be situationally shifted in balance of value by the user of these mindsets in accordance with what the situation calls for, which usually means using a mixture of the 4 philosophies while usually causing one or more of them to stand out more or less in accordance with their perceived effectiveness in serving as a boundary against a problem.

Also, I have learned that books are far too easily the enemy of wisdom. This is because a few slowly read books are far more wisely understood than numerous rapidly read books which are not slowly and wisely organized and valued within the mind. Thus, who has read the most books is often the person who has sacrificed the most wisdom in pursuit of hoarding information in their brain like the disorganized house of a hoarder. Read slow, read few things, and carefully pick and evaluate each thing you read. A library is the false prophet of wisdom. You'll get far more out of slow skims and reading titles alone, than you will get quickly reading the full breadth of each topic you stumble upon. With that in mind, I do not rely on a library, and solely rely on the Internet. I pity the person who has mistaken doing otherwise as an intelligent or wise choice, as it is far from either; yet universally viewed as such.

~Epyc Wynn

>>122836

>Traditionalism, modernism, postmodernism, and metamodernism.

Formalized knowledge. All of these can be used interchangably(or simulataneously) when useful by the chaos practicioner. These refer to knowledge of a different sort, the facts on the ground as seen through the lens of language. Logos worship, in a nutshell.

>Chaos Magic is just podermodernism.

As defined by the IoT, Peter J. Carroll, et al, yeah probably. This is where I approach something of a limb. My practice I call chaos magic because it is the interaction with the elemental force of chaos. I will make the concession that it could be just as accurately be refered to as turning a wheel in a dark room, but "chaos magic" fits more easily in the mouth(apologies to Mr. Carroll). It may in fact have nothing what so ever to do with what others might call chaos magic, and it almost certainly disagrees with anything one might find on the googles(I didn't check). Dancing in chaos is the whole of the practice.

>The dose makes the poison. If you don't balance postmodernism with traditionalist, modernist, and the capstone metamodernist viewpoins, either through indirect understanding of these philosophies (such as through 4-element theory), or through direct study, you will come out poisoned with the follies of relying on of these approaches individually.

Do you believe your concious efforts to intergrate these levels of logic produces a more potent understanding? Is there real power under that stack of [metaphorical] tomes? This depth of knowledge has existed outside of academia, in the wild, since before men were men. The part of your mind that is conciously juggling all of these far out concepts is but a small fraction of your whole mind. The subconcious/unconcious mind sits and watches patiently, thinking circles around your concious mind. Your mind has deep knowledge readily available about your every experience and makes thousands of judgements each minute regulating your behavior based upon this existential knowledge. The potency of your practice is determined by how strongly what your concious mind is trying to do correlated to this bedrock of knowledge, what ever it may be. This is not to say you can get away with anything, but the limit is indeed within you. Experience of the mysteries makes the wizard, not reading.

>Also, I have learned that books are far too easily the enemy of wisdom.

A point of convergence (: However, it seems me that the unconcious mind doesn't struggle to organize information at the glacial pace atwhich our sensory organs can feed it, and will provide what is needed when appropriate. People forget to tie on their bungee cords every so often, but it is because most people haven't learned that all desires are corruptions of the desire for annihilation, and as such "accidental" suicides often occur when death it within easy reach. Corraling the 8 circuits of the mind into some sort of functional accord removes all obstacles. Books can be the axe to the frozen sea within, sending one off on new and interesting tangents, yet this could also be said of a butterfly, a peculiar windshield wiper, or a sprig of rosemary growing up through a sidewalk.

The knowledge of the whole universe(and whatever may be bigger) can be found in a single mote of dust. It's all before our eyes, all the time, reorganizing into the different scenes of life. The world is my altar, everything in it my sigils.

I choose to pursue chaos because I see it as a bottom-up approach, opposed to order, taking all results. While it deals in logical paradoxes(white is black, 5=6), it isn't a discarding of ontic knowledge, but a hinting at a more complete understanding than is afforded by two-value logic. A thought exercise, really, to get oneself out of the habit of eating menus. All human knowledge is flawed by nature of the medium of language, all decisions based on flawed knowledge are necessarily flawed, results yielded from flawed decisions are likely to be undesired. Non-verbal, experiential knowledge is far more useable.

Other practices use intention to work on other aspects of reality, chaos works on the intention itself. It seems to me that intention is the only real reality. Ok, enough lies for now.

>>122539

here's one I use regularly for visualization practice

>>122836

>insistence over proof

But that's wrong though.

Chaos magic is empirical by design. "Fuck dogma, do what gets results".

The thing that I don't understand is by reading your posts and memes, you're obviously an entry-level chaos mage, so why are you speaking out against it so verbosely? Reverse psychology?

>>122230

XD

Fuckingmonikammmmmmmmmm

Be original without sacrificing quality.

Image related???

~Epyc Wynn

This is an interesting thread. I do not know if OP is in for the laughs or some hidden motive, but I do not care.

I agree with the matter about all these philosophicals books, it always felt better for me to learn about these stuff by living in the world, experimenting happiness and suffering alike, nature can be harsh and people are not easy to deal with, but that is how life is, is it not?

But you know? I long for something in my life, I want to build, build in the environment around me, build in my mind. I want to be free. I do not want to depend on other human being for my basic survival need, but I can live with depending on people for others needs if it is good for me to do so.

I recently begun to manifest a certain interest in the occult, because I feel so lost, like I am in some loop where I try to get out of my hole and then I keep finding myself at the bottom, it sucks so much. I just want to be better.

So Epyc Wynn, you seem to like to write all lot here about your opinons voiced by all theses numerous posts, so let me entertain you so you can return me the favor.

I am currently on the military, I love it as much as I hate it, but I now know I would also hate working in any civilian structure. I will probably wait for my contract to end and will not continue anyway, I want to just buy some property and provide for my needs with my two hands. It just depress me that I will probably not find a partner to make childrens with, but I guess you can not have what you really long for in this world?

It sadden me that with my current life, I can just not be always farefooted, burning encens all around the place and chanting and dancing like a madman in under the moon and the stars, carving sybils on the ground, the trees and just be the animal that I should be. I do not seem this as magic ritual or occult practices, it just feel right to me to do it.

Sometimes I just do pretty much that, I do not have any idea of what I am doing but I do it. But I feel like it would be better if I could experience it with others people and eventually finding a mate so I could take theses escapades to the next level and incorporate sex in my life. I do not care that much to be a virgin though, but that would be good to know what it feel like, how it ties in all of this and having kids seem like a nice thing to do, so I could raise them like savages while teaching them the mandatory sciences whe ought to know in this day and age.

I have not found an occult name yet so I cannot indulge myself with this funny post signature stuff, but I look forward about what you guys think about my post. I am not lamenting thought, I can feel happiness from times to times, it just that as a living being I long for more, I seek some insight. It is the first time I have ever asked something on an image board, so I hope for the best, cheers.

Sorry if it happens to be badly written for native english speakers.

>>125518

Become someone worthy of greatness; if you aren't given it, you can at least blame God instead of yourself.

You don't need or want magic it's purely imaginary bullshit. Improve yourself and purely appreciate this board solely from a creative perspective.

Everything you typed wreaks of weakness, patheticness, and a complete lack of self-confidence. Imagine how the various fragments of your mind must feel having to comprise your overall brain; I bet they're embarrassed as all hell to be part of you.

If you want to get a better situation, do yourself a favor and improve yourself already. Instead of acting like you want love when you just want to masturbate to an imaginary girl and fantasize about a family, try figuring out what you can contribute to yourself. You are the king of your body and your empire of influence extends as far past your body as you empower it to.

Imagine a woman, imagine a family, imagine enjoying experiences with them. Experience loneliness, experience coldness, experience isolation. Once you're done with thoroughly doing both, which I am certain you've done both of to an extent already, pursue connecting with people online and offline, start taking more yet still reasonable risks, and get your life together by trying. I guarantee you will enjoy failing at success a lot more than you will enjoy failing to pursue success as you presently are right now.

/fringe/ is a land of imaginary pseudoscience and elitist ignoramuses condescending from pedestals of sheer ignorance and I strongly recommend you seek out better places. Look up some technology, science, politics, and news oriented forums, Discords, subreddits, and so-on. This board is a dead-end and its only saving grace is I happen to enjoy taking the piss out of it enough to inform everyone this place is a dead-end.

~Epyc Wynn

Epyc Wynn actually gave you a pretty good reply. What you seek can only be experienced, and nothing anyone tells you will really help much. It's like talkin to someone about a new colour in the spectrum, that has always been there, makes you ask yourself what does this man filled his eyes with to see that?

>>125576

I never said I believe the male/female model pervades all things; I flat out do NOT believe it pervades all things. What people mean when they say that, is that masculinity and femininity are general styles and patterns and thus these styles/patterns appear in all things. However, you could by that logic generalize all patterns and styles to relate to something else instead of genders, such as good and evil or positive and negative. Thus, I don't believe that.

Of course the universe doesn't give that big of a shit how creatures choose to breed it's just one more means to an end among many.

>>125583

You're going to hate education, philosophy, and reality a lot then.

~Epyc Wynn

Bitches be ripping off my ideas: pic related.

~E p y c [redacted] W y n n (Rule 5)