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Go on a carnivore diet except for Onion and diatomaceous earth smoothies and nofap

>>150404

Ignore this retard.

Adopt a raw fruitarian diet. Look up the works of Dr. Max Gerson, Arnold Ehret, Edgar Cayce, Dr. Morse, Dr. Sebi, etc.

They have all cured cancer and various other diseases with proof. Here is a documentary on the Gersons.

Ignore the carnivore shills, those are fake diets designed to mislead you from the truth.

>>150404

I don't have any diatomaceous earth, and my finances are very limited at the moment in the way of non-essentials. I went carnivore before this and stopped when this popped up, admittedly it was mostly due to a financial blow some months back. I don't think they're related, but I can at least say meat didn't stop the cancer from occurring. At least in my case.

We think it's either genetic, or from the extreme combination of some food poisoning I had (immune response) + chronic stress + sleep deprivation that warped some shit. It's Hodgkin's, which just means some of my white blood cells went crazy and decided to multiply until my whole body is nothing BUT white blood cells. I was very healthy before all this, it happened RIGHT after the food poisoning bit, which is when I started getting hammered with all the other bullshit.

>>150405

I'll see what I can do. As it turns out I may not have a large window of opportunity to do a proper trial since everyone kind of flipped the fuck out and I'm scheduled to go in for consultation tomorrow. I didn't expect the response to be this quick and insistent given I've had to wait 1,000 years for everything else up until this point. If I went 100% fruit, there'd be no way of telling whether the fruit or the cancer treatments were doing the work. If nothing works or I go into remission, maybe we can alternate and see if one speeds up the process more than the other? I dunno.

In the meantime, I guess I'll just throw info up on what to look, for since your body fucking up fits into the Health part of the board. Maybe some of you guys have something similar without knowing and just think you're tired. Nothing cuts into your gains like cancer.

>>150407

>I guess I'll just throw info up on what to look, for since your body fucking up fits into the Health part of the board

please

Thiamine. You need to reduce lactic acid production and reverse the Warburg effect. Read Ray Peat.

>>150405

Might as well just go on a pure sugar diet. Good luck feeling full and making multiple trips to the store. I hope your teeth don't fall out.

>>150400

Eat a healthy omnivore diet and include fasting. Fasting for extended periods of time will put your body into autophagy (which just means your body is recycling dead or malformed cells for energy). In theory your body will eat the cancer for energy and you should be cured.

And if you do go on a meat heavy/ carnivore diet look up the research of Dr. Shawn Baker and Dr. Ken Berry.

I like that the thread's become a free advocating machine for peoples' favorite authors. Never heard of any of these people before this.

>>150410

I get plenty of B vitamins already, so we can't really experiment with that as a variable other than limiting its consumption and seeing how it compares. Sorry.

>>150411

>Might as well just go on a pure sugar diet.

I looked around and I found a ton of independent testimonials from people who were diagnosed with cancer and recommended chemo by their oncologist, went on the Gerson Juice thing instead, and had to come back because it didn't work and the cancer had spread to their major organs in the meantime. Go figure. There's also a line on the Gerson site that outright says, "Can't afford it? Well too bad, look elsewhere lol". I'm pretty strapped and I have to get what I can, and some organic shit is pretty expensive here. It's clearly just a thing they're using to make bank off people, whether they believe in it or not. It would also involve going all the way down to Mexico if you wanted in-person aid with your coffee enimas. Though for the fruit anon, I did have an extra apple and banana. They were good.

>Eat a healthy omnivore diet

That's kind of what I've been doing, but my appetite's been shit. Your body also generally doesn't absorb immune cells during fasting, and cancer's mainstay is that the body can't tell they're malignant. Hence the wanton multiplying.

>>150409

I dunno how to list just symptoms because I had a bunch of shit going on, so I'll just give a summary in case anyone's got something similar happening:

Started out as an infection from food poisoning. I had a swollen node in my right armpit (1) that really hurt since it was huge, accompanied by a huge rash of petechiae on that side of my body, face included. The one under my arm (1) eventually went down a bit, and the one on the right side of my neck (2) went up, rashes continued. The one under my arm (1) went down completely, the node cluster in my right clavicle (3) swelled up a bit to join the one on my neck.

It stayed that way for a while. I was very tired, but it's hard to tell if it was the sickness or the chronic stress and extreme changes to my sleep schedule that were doing it. That's the thing, you can never tell if it's your cancer doing it or not. There's so many factors, and there's always some alternate reason you can come up with. Get ANY fucking lumps checked as soon as you can.

The swelling went down for both, occasional rash outbreaks continued, but with decreasing frequency and intensity. They were down to maybe 8 little spots. About a month later, I did a small workout and had extreme pain all across my upper body; joints, tendons, the muscles across my chest and back. The sternum where my pecs connected was especially bad. The pain abated into a general ache with occasional spikes in intensity. The node on my left clavicle (4) swelled up and the pain was bad enough where I started taking acetaminophen on the regular so I could actually sleep.

>>150414

Went to the doctor, was a Pajeet and not very professional. Said to get an x-ray and come back. Did, Dangerously African doctor this time, he said the x-ray was inconclusive and to go get bloodwork done for a CT scan. Did it the same day, got a letter saying I was scheduled for a scan 9 months from then (lol Canadian healthcare). Chest felt tight, started getting some pains. I felt my heart swell up, hot and too big against my ribs, and had arrhythmia. It eventually went down but the weird beating continued and I had shooting pains.

Went to a hospital ER and was there for 9 hours because waiting is what you do here. Doc was actually competent, asked how long I've been stressed, turns out most of the pain was from all the shit I was dealing with. He did an X-ray/ECG and they didn't see anything, asked why the fuck the doctors I went to didn't tell me to get an ultrasound done (they're shit). ER doc gives me a sheet to get one and even puts in a paper at a heart clinic in case I need it. Tells me to get a family doctor so I don't have to deal with retarded shit anymore.

Another financial blow, can't eat properly for a while. Feel very tired all the time, think it's stress and lack of food. I find a family doc and get the ultrasound. They find a mass that's about 3.8cm and doc wants me to get a biopsy. The lump is really firm and painful, by the time I go to the biopsy the node above it has swollen up a bit too. I get a call from the doc, he says I have Hodgkin's lymphoma.

Suddenly everyone's moving me around with in a day or two instead of weeks or months. I'm gonna have a PET scan and another ECG on Friday, and they really want to start me on chemo asap, but I want to see if I can go in for immunotherapy instead. Pretty sure I'm just Stage 1A, so here's hoping. If anyone gives a shit on here I'll consider getting the chemo if there's no other options and typing up the experience. Or I'll just kill myself, since this is as good of an excuse as any.

>>150413

Just listen. Read Ray Peat. He's not a bullshit, semi-credible idea machine. He's a biologist with a PhD who doesn't pull shit out of his ass. He uses citations and sound arguments. He tells the truth and I have tested his dietary ideas on myself successfully.

Take thiamine anyway. A lot of it. Imagine 225 mg to several grams. Not the puny 5 mg daily value. This isn't about malnutrition. The point in taking thiamine is to force a better metabolic situation by taking abnormally high amounts of thiamine. A therapeutic dose. Not a physiological dose. Consider adding magnesium and niacinamide. When someone has cancer, they need to force the correct metabolic pathways for glucose. That also means eating glucose (carbohydrates) is necessary if you intend to handle it properly. Are you confused? Does sugar cause cancer? No. Read Ray Peat's website. There are scientific and medical references at the bottom of his articles. Polyunsaturated fat causes cancer. Polyunsaturated fat prevents normal glucose metabolism. Even something as simple as eating more (fat-free) carbs calms down a situation like this by allowing the body to have extra fuel so it can stop circulating free fatty acids which inhibit cellular respiration and generate an inflammatory state.

>>150414

>>150415

I'd go for the chemo, why kill yourself? if anything i'd take it as an opportunity to sort myself out.

Got my CT/heart scan done today and I'm wiped. It was very early so I didn't sleep much, and you have to fast before you go in which is hard when you're chronically fatigued and rely on what little boost food can give you to function.

Funny thing, I looked around regarding the fruit and veggie thing, and essentially some people have managed to kick it by going raw vegan. Not because it's healthy, but because it was nutritionally-starved to the point that the cells couldn't sustain themselves. Example:

http://www.nutritionandcancer.org/view/nutritionandcancer/s99p1074.htm

>>150417

>Are you confused? Does sugar cause cancer?

Of course not. It's one of the body's main energy sources. I'll check the website. It's one of the few semi-realistic ones I've seen so far.

>>150419

>I'd go for the chemo, why kill yourself?

I've been playing with the idea of ending my life since grade 3, though more in the abstract at that time. Everything up until this point has been an extremely unpleasant struggle, and I'm wondering if the utter hell that is chemotherapy is worth living another 10-20 years of it, with chemobrain on top, just to have all of the side effects kill me. It's a genuine question of balancing between whether or not I want to actually continue living since it would be just more endless bullshit, only with more unpleasantness on top, or just voluntarily tapping out. I'd worked very hard to keep my body/mind in good condition and it's really all I have. If I were to see that all deteriorate from endless problems that I can't fix over a chemo-reduced lifespan, I wouldn't call that living. I'd rather die as myself.

>as an opportunity to sort myself out

My life was about as sorted out as I could manage to get it within the narrow shit circumstances I was dealt. Whenever I manage a bit of purchase on the cliff side, something throws me off again though.

>>150423

I think the decades of "no reason to live" is what gave you the cancer dude. There was a guy with a 100% death rate tropical disease that went to the Carribean and watched stand up comedy in his hotel for a month or 2 weeks or something and got better – maybe you should do something similar. Watch a bunch of comedy or anime that's fun or funny for a couple weeks, drink soup, enjoy yourself.

>>150425

lol live laugh love

I actually find humor in pretty much everything and it was how I dealt with life. For the past 5 years I was actually doing fine and managed to get over that, wary but hopeful. Things were looking up, and 2018 in particular was nice. My depression was pretty much gone and I was getting shit done, then BAM cancer. If you want to help with good advice, tell me all you know about microglia inhibition. If I go through with chemo, I'm going to need some neuroprotective defenses at the ready to mitigate the neurotoxic damage that can occur during or years after treatment.

Right. Apparently it's not just in my neck where it hurts, it's also in my chest and a good size, too. The scan showed the cells actually trace the entire route they took for a year, though the ones they were in early on aren't big enough or in high enough concentrations to be a concern. The problem one swelling up definitely corresponds with the dates I was suffering extreme stress, and only got worse when I couldn't eat properly. It's entirely possible I might have gotten it under control if it weren't for all of those external factors. Keep your fucking stress levels down and don't just sustain yourself on oatz (and squatz).

I apparently have around 7 months to live with no treatment. In the meantime, I'm trying to get back into ketosis and eating like a madman to see if that helps. It hurts and pulses when I eat starchy shit but settles down when I just eat protein/veg, so I'm taking the hint. I'm also seeing about loading up on neuroprotectants if I go through with chemo, as well as some electrical stimulation. Will report results if completed.

Just drop all packaged food. Anything that comes in a plastic container should be a no go.

If you do eat meat - only from a butcher. Move somewhere where you are closer to nature and adopt a truly physically active life.

Office/desk jobs will be your death and no diet will save you from them.

>>150438

The closest thing to packaged food I normally eat is yogurt and cheese, and I always make sure nothing's been added. None of my meat is processed, aside from some smoked stuff on occasion (actual smoke, not chemical). I can't afford to move/am tied to other people, and was very physically active before all this; my job never let you sit either. I did everything right. It only stopped when financial restrictions made it so I had to choose between rent and food win -30C, and I'm not the only one under this roof. I did what I had to do to bring some currency in.

It's an effort to do much of anything right now because the tumors suck all your energy away. It's like staying up for 4 days and running non-stop, and then no matter how much you sleep you don't feel rested again. You just wake up the same as you went to sleep, sometimes worse. The only upside to all of this virus drama is that I spent a bunch of cash I can't really afford on the foods I used to eat before I had to go cheap carb city and shit hit the fan.

>>150441

Kill the tumors with chemo and if needed surgery. Then be /fit/ and healthy after its dead. Your DNA had a bug that created faulty hardware and that faulty hardware is not going away with sugar pills, positive thinking or any other bullshit, it needs to be torn out before things can get better.

>>150400

Fast.

Put your body into "starvation mode" and it eats the cancer to survive.

>>150445

There might be some truth to that actually

I don't know if you will read this but there's a guy who survived what is normally a death sentence of cancer. What he took was Fenbendazole. A anti-parasite pill.

https://www.mycancerstory.rocks/single-post/2016/08/22/Shake-up-your-life-how-to-change-your-own-perspective

Here's another link that someone put up with a bit more coherent dosage info.

https://www.cre8-health.com/joe-tippens-dog-fenbendazole-protocol/

Here's a good link describing this and other links.

http://www.rexresearch.com/fenbendazole/fenbendazole.html

Combine the Fenbendazole with Tagamet(anti-acid) to increase potency.

combining it with Tagamet(Cimetidine)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1386263/

…maximum serum concentration of mebendazole following a dose of 1.5 g of mebendazole three times daily were determined before and after treatment with cimetidine (400 mg three times daily for 30 days)….

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2002/7/cover_cimetidine

Tagamet is over the counter in USA. Fenbendazole can be purchased at places like feed stores or Tractor Supply. The articles show it for dogs but you can get it cheaper for horses (like $12 US). Name is Safeguard it's a dewormer. Has the Fenbendazole listed on it.

I hope helps. I know it's been a while. Some people have had good results with this. I hope so for you.

any updates anon?

i wish you make it through it