a6de01 No.140049 [Last50 Posts]
Discuss running here.
How has your week been running so far?
Anything you do to help meet your expectations?
Have a running buddy?
Favorite places or times to run?
Use any music when running?
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ce1095 No.140071
I find it incredibly boring to be honest and the mind set of needing to do a specific exercise for cardio held me back for a long time from the cardio gains. I've since found sport to be a much better way of doing cardio. Much more engaging and accessible and the pace is decided by your opponent a lot of the time so you always actually have to push yourself.
My question would be what is fun about running for its own sake? I don't mean to say there is nothing, I am genuinely curios.
Plus, I was under the impression that anything beyond running 3 miles and your heart breaking down can be detected in your blood, apparently why so many super marathon runners are just found dead of heart attack on their trails in spite of having insanely great endurance.
Should be an interesting thread.
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68bf9a No.140072
>>140071
It's a little hard to describe. I think you have to run for a few weeks until you can really enjoy it. Basically, pushing yourself doing interval training is fun. Also, having friends who run helps. ALSO there is a certain energy in the air for 5ks and marathons that I love
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e5f35a No.140077
>>140049
>>140071
>>140072
Most people don't know how to run or even walk, 80% of people born since the 80s just slam their legs down and were brainwashed by Nike, "power walking" , and mall walker programs.
> Have to learn to lift weight properly
>Have to learn to swim properly
>Have to learn to jump and land
But somehow everyone can just run?
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7fe3a0 No.140104
>>140049
>Have a running buddy?
no
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6dde31 No.140126
>>140104
Get a cute awoo to run with!
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876ce1 No.140138
>>140049
Tangential, but how can I combat heat? i moved from an area of dry heat, to an area of intense tropical heat (30-34C from dawn to past dusk, 70% +humidity). Is there some way to acclimate to the heat?
I want to go out and walk at the very least. If I'm lucky, I come back from a short walk with heat rash, if I'm unlucky, I have to dash into a nearby shop with AC before I blackout on the sidewalk vomiting. I mean, there are grannies and grandpas chilling outside, are my genes just weak or do they just not give a fuck?
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96868d No.140145
>>140138
Are you staying hydrated out there?
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68bf9a No.140154
>>140138
I have a rule to run on a treadmill when it's over 100F at any time that day
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c49600 No.140180
>>140138
It took me a year or so to fully acclimate to FL, and that was with going out every day and coming in literally wringing sweat from my shirt. Now, like you say, I can just chill outside like the grannies and granpas. It sounds like you're not spending 24 hours a day hiding in A/C, which is good, you'll never adapt that way. Give your body time and regular exposure and you'll get used to it.
>>140145 is right. Drinking water is not a meme.
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41d769 No.140182
>>140071
For me, I enjoy being able to move freely across the ground. In particular, I like to run in the woods on trails because I live near a state park. The forest is always extremely peaceful and during the summer it is quite cool by the river. There's something about being out in nature moving freely that puts my mind at ease. I also tend to go running with my dad who is actually a more fit runner than I am (I've only recently begun the path to /fit/ness). So it's always nice to be able to spend time with him. I think that many of the super marathon runners who die of heart attacks may actually be pushing themselves much to hard, which is especially a problem with less experienced runners. There are also genetic conditions that people may not be aware of. It's also important to note that the number of marathon/super marathon runners who die of heart attacks is comparatively low relative to the total number of runners participating in these races and training for these races. It is not common for runners to die of heart attacks, but I think that there is some issue with the number of articles written that makes this problem seem larger than it really is.
>>140138
Here in the South it tends to get pretty warm this time of year, around 90-100 degrees F, (about the same range) and it is also quite humid. The heat has never really bothered me very much, I just sweat more than I usually do. I don't run very far, about 2 or 3 miles, but I make sure to hydrate before and after my runs if I do run outside (or inside, for that matter). I've also lived in this part of the country my whole life, so I've had to deal with the heat every year pretty much. If you start spending more time outside, and make sure you drink plenty of water, your body can acclimate, but it might not make much of a difference. Some people just handle the heat better than others. Just don't forget to drink water.
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61877f No.140188
Is it even safe to run when you're over 250 lb? I've heard it's really bad for your knees and shit.
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ccde24 No.140190
>>140077
I didn't figure out how to run properly until I was in my 20's!
I just started getting back into it in may, doing 1 or 2 miles at a time. It took a good week or two before it stopped feeling like a painful chore. Once my feet and legs got used to a lighter, lower impact stride, it got enjoyable.
I'll run just about anywhere, I just try to avoid pavement.
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44ecb2 No.140233
>tfw hit by a car, broken fibula, ankle permanently fucked
>tfw used to be able to run 1-3 miles fine, albeit a bit slow (8-9min mile)
>tfw not even able to run half a mile before ankle is in agony
>tfw gained 30lb since the accident, from 200 to 230lb (5'8")
>tfw aesthetic legs are now lopsided from atrophy and overcompensating on my good leg
>tfw tendonitis in my right patellar tendon
>tfw tight left tibialis anterior that no matter how much i stretch the pain starts back up after about a half mile of walking or running
at least my physical therapist is a qt haha
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0d972e No.140249
>>140233
Do calf raises and jump rope instead. Lift light furniture by resting a table or chair leg on your foot and curling it.
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fd9cd7 No.140253
>>140233
I will pray for you, anon. May God help you with your leg gains.
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cae239 No.140257
I run 40-90 mins daily not all of my runs are fast or tiring. It does wonders for fat loss and cutting.
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166184 No.140304
>>140138
Easy anon, get a plastic onesie that can be filled with snow or mushed ice. Put some hole so your sweat can get out, and you are set.
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cca6cb No.140306
What are the best shoes for running? I've heard Brooks is good but I don't know what model/brand I should be looking for specifically….
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ccde24 No.140324
>>140306
I'm no expert, but I got these "neutral" New Balance Veniz's for pretty cheap. I'd recommend something similar!
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ccde24 No.140325
Oh here's what some of the shoe categories mean:
Motion Control: These shoes are typically the most rigid and heavy shoes available. They have more support and cushion then other running shoes. They're typically recommended for people with flat feet, or who are heavy runners.
Stability: Stability shoes are recommended for people who overpronate. This means your foot tends to roll inward slightly when you're running.
Cushioned/Neutral: As the name suggests, neutral shoes are designed for people with a neutral gait. Typically they have a little bit of cushioning.
Minimalist/Barefoot shoes: These shoes tend to have little to no cushioning or support. They're meant to mimic barefoot running as closely as possible while still providing the protection many people need.
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99e7b2 No.140338
Are cardiobunnies a meme? I've never seen a single grill running outside in my 2 years I've been running
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e84faa No.140339
>>140049
I'll have to restart the Couch to 5K challenge.
Was only on week 2, but then a massive heat wave came, not even AC, a desk fan, and a thin bed sheet could save you from sweating at night.
So running during the day would only result in Heat Stroke for me.
Then when it cooled 3 days ago, I have been non stop doing yardwork and helping the elderly.
I really wanna go for a nice jog, but I've got more shit to do in the next 2 weeks.
Work your asses off now anons, cause your 1 Dad having a heart attack and a heat wave away from your schedule not allowing shit for an entire month.
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783679 No.140342
>>140325
What's for highly supinated fat fucks?
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44ecb2 No.140350
>>140342
im not an expert, but i would assume shoes with more cushion, and maybe some insoles as well.
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6fc9af No.140354
>>140306
I personally have a pair of adidas trail running shoes, which are really just tennis shoes with added traction for running in the woods. They are quite comfortable and don't give me any blisters, plus I think they look good. Pic related, they cost me about 60 bucks iirc. I've also heard that new balance is a good brand as well, and not too expensive either. To be honest, your stride/cadence is much more important for keeping your feet and knees comfortable. You only really need a shoe to protect your foot from stepping on sharp rocks or glass, which is why native american tribes run with just a thin leather moccasin or sandal. There are some brands of minimalist running shoes that are pretty inexpensive, but I can't speak for the quality of the shoes themselves. A lot of the running sandals that are available also seem really overpriced for what you get.
>>140339
Aw jeez anon, that sucks. I hope your dad is doing okay now. Doing yard work can still be great exercise, especially if you have one of those push reel mowers.
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a3f6dc No.140596
How do you keep all your stuff from bouncing around? I've tried a backpack but it still goes all over the place and it's a real pain in the ass. Is getting a fannypack worth it? If there's any alternatives that don't involve spending money I'm all ears.
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41d769 No.140615
>>140596
What kind of stuff are you taking on your runs? I only ever bring my house/car key when I run. I leave my towel/water in my car or at my house, and then secure my key in my pocket with a safety pin.
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4d35f7 No.140625
Promised my cousin I would run a 5k with her next year
I've never been a serious runner
Well, here I go!
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71392d No.140627
I wasn't planning on running this morning, but I did anyway. I ended up falling and got scrapped up pretty bad. I won't be able to run for a few days at least. Be careful guys.
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71392d No.140628
>>140596
can you not run without anything?
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4bee72 No.140763
>>140615
>>140628
Phone, water bottle mostly. Running with a phone flopping around in my pocket is a huge pain in the ass. I'd love to run with nothing at all, but I've got the kind of life where if I miss a phone call, I've got 3 people getting mad and making my life miserable.
Any of you niggers ever go running in the rain?
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e24a05 No.140767
>>140763
You could get one of those armbands that holds you phone on like your bicep or forearm. Pic related. I just checked on amazon and they're about 10 or 15 bucks usually. Plus you can use your headphones, if you like to listen to music while you exercise.
I like running in the rain, but during this time of year most of the rain we get is from thunderstorms, so I tend to stay inside. With my luck I'll get brained by a falling tree branch or struck by lightning somehow. But when it's just a rainstorm it's always nice and cool, which is a welcome change from the 90+ weather I usually have to endure.
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843c69 No.140768
some guys was asking about this last month.
find the thread and put the infographics and pdfs that i posted.
its really important to make running better for u
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8eae3f No.140781
>>140767
>Plus you can use your headphones, if you like to listen to music while you exercise.
I tried this while running once. The earbuds would start to get loose in my ears because of the bouncing and eventually fall out. Pissed me off to no end.
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222049 No.140784
>>140077
running should be taught to create lasting muscle memory.
tips would be appreciated.
my advice for running:
stretch 10 mins beforehand. 15-30 second stretches each
run about 2 miles. you can choose different speeds along the way, but make sure they are of equal proportions.
lean forward, never "just stop" always do a warm down.
>>140188
you can do it.
>>140190
this anon is based
>>140306
>>140324
ive heard most of the main brands are good, but you should try at least 5 different ones that fit to get the perfect one.
>>140354
my shoes are nike free runs that i found for free
>>140625
that image title
>>140763
YES. thats the best. I go shirtless and try to wear shoes or velcro sandals that wont chafe.
no need to protect yourself from the rain; lightning barely ever strikes humans, just stay away from tall objects. i find it fun to have cool drops hitting you while running, and getting a little muddy, plus you never run into other awkward joggers.
>>140767
ah, the meme arm strap. tell me, anon. are you going to get compression clothes too? how about a safety hazard belt with reflective tape? "jogging shorts" too?
>>140781
only niggers do that. if you try it once, you will realize that those people are more concerned about the way they look while running. its not a fashion show. most people like that would be shitting themselves if they had to run 5 miles in an emergency scenario.
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8eae3f No.140789
>>140784
>only niggers do that. if you try it once, you will realize that those people are more concerned about the way they look while running. its not a fashion show. most people like that would be shitting themselves if they had to run 5 miles in an emergency scenario.
I don't really get what made you type this from my post, but I can tell you I stopped bothering with it after the first try.
I can just sing songs in my head to keep me entertained anyway.
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2aac1d No.140790
>>140784
I don't use an armband and prefer to run in silence, just making suggestions for the other anon.
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4778ac No.140834
How don you classify for ultra trail races?
Can anybody just sign up?
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e24a05 No.140868
>>140834
I think you just have to register with whoever is organizing the race, but for most races there's usually a fee.
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e24a05 No.140869
Okay this might be a dumb question but im gonna ask anyways: is barefoot running/minimalist running a meme? I've been thinking about buying a pair of pic related, which is one of Xero's running sandals. They're pretty cheap relative to most running shoes (40 bucks) but I still think that's pretty fucking expensive for two piece of rubber and some nylon cord. I also might just try barefoot trail running and see how it feels. The only problem is that I have soft, tender, uncalloused feet that will probably get torn up by a few pebbles. So I may have to suffer for a while until my feet harden up a bit.
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03d4e7 No.140870
>>140869
That shoe looks weird. No idea if that pair would work, but barefoot running is not a meme. I used to do it, and it totally changed my running mechanics for the better. It increases emphasis on the calves and Achilles tendon. My feet ended up feeling similar to those springy prosthetic limbs amputee runners use.
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e24a05 No.140871
>>140870
Supposedly the design is based on the same kind of running sandals that the Tarahumara use, but with more modern materials. The Tarahumara use a sole made from an old car tire and leather for the straps. Of course, plenty of other cultures have all developed their own kind of sandal, and most of them tend to look like the pic I posted. After all, humans have been running with footwear for thousands of years, and if that's the kind of shoe that we tend to use the most, then that's the kind I'm going to wear.
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251dca No.140875
>>140869
Would really be interested in this too.
Also, what is the best minimalist type shoe to run with? I live in bumfuckistan where drunk fucks break beer/vodka bottles everywhere so literally running barefoot is out of the question.
Also, what about having flatfoot? I assume it would be really uncomfortable.
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d86f9f No.140880
>>140233
So you have a pic of you at 200lbs? Sorry for asking but your my same height and that’s my goal weight. I’m at 290 and just recently started running.
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783679 No.140881
>>140869
Natural feet barefoot/minimalist should run on natural ground dirt. Artificial feet running shoes should run on artificial ground pavement.
Barefoot/minimalist running will strengthen the small muscles in your feet and ankles, but if you do it on a road or sidewalk or even a track, you'll fuck your feet up more than you help them. Just like horses need shoes if they aren't walking on grass and dirt out in the wilderness, so do people. If you're going to run on the road or sidewalk, you need running shoes, otherwise the impact will be too much and start fucking up your feet over time. Goggins was untrained as fuck the first time he tried to run 100 miles,and even with running shoes he broke most of the bones in his feet. I don't know this for a fact, but I assume he was also running on his heels like a dumbass.
As for those running sandals, those are basically to keep you from cutting your feet on sharp rocks out in the wilderness.
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366b7b No.140920
>>140875
My understanding is that a minimalist shoe such as the pic in >>140869 would be ideal. Those kinds of shoes are basically just a piece of rubber that keeps your feet from getting cut, that's it. No support, no cushioning, no "stride correcting technology" bullshit. I found this article that concerns flat feet and running, and the author claims that it's more important that you have strong arches. He says that after running/walking barefoot, his arches became stronger and his feet became less flat. You should definitely do some research on your own though and draw your own conclusions. Flatfeet aren't a new phenomenon, and people with flat feet have been running barefoot for a long time. As always, listen to your body and pay attention to how your feet and legs feel when you run.
https://xeroshoes.com/flat-feet-high-arches-and-running-barefoot/
>>140881
I think a lot of that has to do with the conditioning of the foot. The more calloused, the better it will respond to rough surfaces. The environment that humans evolved in contained a lot more terrain than just grass and dirt, so it follows that human feet can adapt to handle rough, rocky surfaces as well. Obviously, if someone who does not walk barefoot much suddenly starts running barefoot on asphalt/concrete, they're gonna fuck their feet up. But someone who frequently walks or runs barefoot won't mind as much. More importantly, the impact should be absorbed by the calf muscles so that no additional strain is placed on the joints or bones. Ultimately, however, I still think it's generally necessary to wear shoes of some variety when running on roads, either minimalist or not, mainly due to the potential to step on something like a shard of glass or a sharp rock.
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783679 No.140938
>>140920
Callouses will definitely protect you from sharp rocks, but humans aren't meant to run over rock hard surfaces for long distances regularly. If you've strengthened the small muscles in your feet by barefoot running in nature and run on a sidealk once it probably won't hurt you but doing it regularly is unnatural and too stressful. It's like trying to do the heaviest deadlifts you can every single day. You'll fucking fry.
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1dad07 No.141019
>>140071
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running
On an emotional level, this is honestly one of the best descriptions of "Why I run" I've ever seen. He explains it better than I can ever do.
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2aac1d No.141032
>>141019
>running just to eat junk food
That kinda defeats the purpose of improving cardiovascular health. I'm at the point where I don't really care to eat junk food. The unhealthiest food I can stomach is probably low fat potato chips and ice cream, anything else that's too greasy just makes my stomach ache. For me, running is more about freedom than anything else.
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ccde24 No.141039
>>141032
This.
That oatmeal guy seems to have a really unhealthy relationship with food lol.
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80610e No.141041
If this thread is about running, why is the qt in OP's pic clearly racewalking?
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d39236 No.141064
>>141041
I hope she's walking or else she's gonna fuck up her knees with those heelstrikes
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69ffa5 No.141091
>>140596
All i take is my house keys tied to the rope on my shorts. works just fine and keeps the knot from slipping.
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783679 No.141101
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>141064
She's totally racewalking. She's got the proper upper body movement and everything.
Check out the QT's in vid related
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8adb86 No.141107
>>141019
>thereddit.com
pls go and stay go
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5a770a No.141129
I started running a few months ago but stopped due to developing a pain in my left knee. I started again last week and the pain came back, but I think my calves are gaining more muscle. I assume (or hope) it goes away after a while, because I really enjoy running. I found we have some roads that cut through a forest where practically nobody goes, so I've been wanting to go there more often.
While on the topic, is it better to run early in the day or late? Or does it not matter at all?
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2aac1d No.141159
>>141129
>pain in my left knee
Make sure that you're not landing on your heel. I think poor stride is what causes most injuries among runners. Ideally you should be running the same way you would run if you took off your shoes. You may want to find a grassy field and run barefoot through it to get an idea of what your natural stride feels like too. I've been running barefoot on trails and have been loving it, personally. 6 miles with no shoes was no problem at all. As for the time of day, I'd just run whenever you feel like it. During summer I tend to run later in the day since it gets quite hot in the afternoons and I don't tend to wake up early if I can help it. If you're more of a morning person, then by all means go for a morning run.
On a related note, I would highly recommend that everyone in this thread should this book. Pic related, it primarily deals with the story of the Central American tribe of running people called the Tarahumara or Raramuri. It also explains the history of running, both culturally and evolutionarily. There is additionally some commentary on the history of jogging and how it got a false reputation for being a dangerous exercise. The author details how the invention of the running shoe is responsible for a large number of running related injuries, and how the more expensive shoes, ironically, tend to cause more injury. It's a very interesting story and is full of useful information for runners.
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49ea29 No.141165
>>140071
I hated running when I had to make time for it, now it's my main mode of transport for getting to work, so it's no real hassle. The only downside is having walk to walk home at the end of the day because I don't have my car or bike.
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2aac1d No.141167
>>141165
>walking home
>not running both ways
This is how people become ultra marathoners
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f88769 No.141174
>>141159
I do land on my forefoot, not my heels. I'm guessing because I have bad posture in general, it affects my stride too. Soft ground would definitely help, but I haven't found any routes I could go. Grass is kind of a pain due to ticks here and most stretches of land is farmland.
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49ea29 No.141175
>>141167
I get off at around 1:00am, I don't want to work myself up before I go to bed. Besides, I'm usually too exhausted by that time.
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911239 No.141178
If I'm coming back from an injury and cycling some sort of PED that improves endurance. Could I use it during my 6 weeks of base training (+6 weeks of race training) or should I wait andbuse the entire 12 week cycle during my race training until I get to my race training months which will include more speedwork and etc. ? Since I'm not using anything for recovery I figure that I could use some it during base training and still benefit from the endurance gains instead of going too hard in my sessions that will be more slightly anaerobic and burning myself out.
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2aac1d No.141187
>>141175
>1 in the morning
that sucks
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911239 No.141189
>>141019
I started running to offset the potential weight gain from binging and after weeks of running (especially when I increased my mileage) I actually stopped binging and was able to eat like a normal person. The problem is now that I am injured I've binged 5/15 days that I have been off but it's definitely way better than it used to be and I haven't eaten enough to gain any real weight.
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523fb9 No.141336
>>140875
Well, you don't stomp like an 8-bit character when you run; you land on the balls of your feet to absorb shock into calve muscles instead of the joints.
That minimalist shit is retarded. Anyone who's walked at least a mile in any pair of sandals or flippy floppies can tell you that running with a rope g-string around your toes and feet sounds a little too sketchy to be taken serious.
I think 'minimalist' is being used interchangeably with 'lightweight'. I was trying on shoes the other day in a Legend's, and I had on a pair of $120 shoes that looked like a pair of black, fish net stockings on my foot and they weighed virtually nothing.
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0380db No.141339
>>140781
You're wearing them wrong. Actually 95% wear them wrong. You're not meant to just plop them straight into your ear canal. You loop them behind your ear then insert them upside down. You get
>Better isolation
>Less in-ear chafing from friction
>Less noise from the wire moving around(microphonics)
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824c17 No.141346
Is ultra running (160km+) a meme? It seems like hours of light jogging with comfy food breaks in between. It seems like many ultra runners don't run competitive times when it comes to standard marathons and half marathons. Also lots of ultra runners seem skinny fat or just straight up overweight.
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d88ee7 No.141347
With the heat wave over the last couple months I've been doing much shorter runs and more strength training. Running in heat destroys my times/distance, but I'm pretty sure I'll bounce back with better times than ever once it's cooler outside.
I don't usually have expectations other than some distance I'm setting on running based on how time, food in stomach, etc.,.
I like to run starting from my home and then going in some direction. For a 1 mile run I'll go through my subdivision, but anything further and I'll mix it up. Either go through downtown/business area or once in a while trails.
Either podcasts or industrial/techno/EDM.
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2aac1d No.141356
>>141346
>It seems like hours of light jogging with comfy food breaks in between.
I am not an endurance runner myself yet, but a race like the Leadville 100 is far from comfy. For perspective, barely half the runners who enter the race every year even finish. There are no first, second, or third place medals, if you finish you earn a belt. While there is some competition to beat records and win first place for bragging rights, the real challenge is just finishing the damn thing. Leadville, in particular, is situated in Rockies, and the runners end up climbing and descending 4,800 meters at altitudes above 9,200 and 12,620 feet over the course of the race. I'm not sure where you get the impression that most ultra runners are skinny fat or overweight from. For many of them, running is their primary exercise, so of course they're not likely to be bodybuilders. As for the competitive times, I can't really speak for the numbers of most ultra marathoners. I can tell you that the current record holder of the Leadville 100, Matt Carpenter, holds a number of records for running marathons, particularly at high altitudes. It is interesting that you mentioned comfy as a factor though. While I wouldn't describe long distance running as comfy, per se, I would say that running is quite enjoyable, borderline fun. It seems that a common trait between successful ultra runners is fun, really. Obviously, ultrarunners push themselves to their limits, but as I understand, the best runners run for fun. So it's not entirely inaccurate to describe it as a "comfy" run, but I would be careful about underestimating the grueling nature of a 100 mile race through the Rocky Mountains.
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ccde24 No.141385
>>141356
I really like the idea of ultra running, but it seems kind of bad for you. All the ultra runners I see look like death tbh.
Maybe I'm just a pussy, but I did a lot of drugs in my time, and I feel like I'd definitely be the one to die trying to do races like those.
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f86618 No.141432
>>141385
Yeah most of the ones I've seen look sickly skinny, except for Goggins, but that nigger is on another level.
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911239 No.141444
>>141385
They all have horrible, aged skin and I think that's from staying in the sun too long (training + races ). It's really something I would only do once a year or something.
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2aac1d No.141447
>>141385
>>141432
>>141444
Ultrarunners tend to be frail and skinny because they don't do any sort of strength training. I think the idea is that they want to reduce their weight as much as possible so that they don't have to move as much weight with their legs. If you ask me, I think that's the pussy way out when training to run 100 miles. There's nothing stopping someone from being muscular and also a strong long distance runner, but I think that it will take longer in terms of training time to build up the endurance to move 150 lbs of muscle instead of just 110 lbs of bones and skin. Pics related, some different physiques of ultrarunners.
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911239 No.141457
>>141447
There are quite a few "big" ultra runners, especially when it comes to mountain ultra running. It kind of helps to have bigger stronger legs.
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6ce665 No.141473
Keept runing every morning until im tired and drenched in sweat. Did this past 2 months and have not lost even a single kilogram. Is runing meme.
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2aac1d No.141475
>>141473
What kind of stuff are you eating and how much?
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72cb53 No.141479
>>141473
you might be burning around 500-ish calories with that run, but if you eat 2500+ calories in a day, then you're still consuming too many net calories to lose weight. If your goal is to lose weight, you'll have to count your calories and eat less
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233620 No.141506
>>140869
holy fuck, that paracord sandal reeks of "overpriced fad toy with no actual effort behind it".
You could literally MAKE that and it could be cheaper and sturdier.
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6ce665 No.141507
>>141475
>>141479
>go run
>1km in realize my phone can log my pace, distance and calorie burn
>run for next 5km hit it in 42 minute
>sweat like madman whole tshirt with hoodie drenched
>stomach hurts with extreme pain on left side
>probably tore tendons on both of my legs
>last half kilometer sing to myself to keep morale up but fail
>mfw only 300kcal
Just fuck my shit up
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8eae3f No.141512
>>141507
>325kcal
Man, is running that shit for losing calories? I never kept track of calories, but I feel like you'd lose a decent portion more by spending that same time in the gym lifting weights.
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5dd367 No.141540
>>141512
It's because 9 minute mile is a garbage pace. That's practically walking
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4e5ef1 No.141541
Running is shit.
>Not enjoyable to do
>No satisfaction like there is with having your lifts go up
>Eats up your time
>Unless you live near nature, you're stuck chugging down exhaust fumes from the roads
>Cannibalises your gainz
Change my mind.
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2365ff No.141542
>>141541
Did a runner fuck your girlfriend or something
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321160 No.141568
>>140306
Water shoes from walmart. $10 for a minimalist running shoe that protects your feet without getting in the way.
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b43d23 No.141569
>>141512
Humans are very efficient runners.
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6ce665 No.141577
>>141540
This time went faster it's still around 300-400kcal.
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862edd No.141581
>>141577
Then your calorie tracker is garbage too lol. Average person burns about 100-140 calories per mile with a decent pace.
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b82ef1 No.141601
>>141577
Back when I was cutting (a long time ago) I downloaded one of the basic calorie counting apps. I would run about 3 miles and it said I would burn around 6-700. I figured that was bullshit so I would halve the amount of calories. It worked for me.
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edba79 No.141619
>>141506
40 bucks is nothing compared to the running shoes that are over-engineered with cushioned heels and “shock absorbing technology” people waste hundreds of dollars on shoes that don’t actually help their feet or legs. You can also just buy the rubber and the laces for 25 bucks and make your own from that same company.
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43bbf5 No.141631
Running is so fucking gay.
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d8f271 No.141632
>>141631
t. american fatass/jewish bodybuilder who never tought of any practical use of his body, and that build himself up without any goal, or just to boost his own ego.
Being able to run very fast, run slow on a long distance, or walk for an entire day are excellent abilities for SHTF scenario.
You're mixing girls that run only to lose weight on their asses and because they're can't fucking do any pushup, to man to want to build themselve to be at their higher capacity, especially the natural way.
The natural way, it's pushup, pullup, and running. You can, if you can't run, for exemple if you're in prison, squat and leg raise (ref. convict conditionning). People, in my country at amateur level, doing competitive box thai run at least 1 hour (or 2, I don't remember) every single day. People working jobs actually bitch about them, because sometimes they live on welfare, thus they have the time to do that while people working don't have the time.
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620ba7 No.141635
>>141632
I've come across this image a few times, but has anyone else really tried it? The part about running making you thin while getting gainz seems especially dubious.
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f86618 No.141636
>>141632
That muscle density stuff is bullshit. What causes the phenomena he's talking about is 'muscle recuitment.' It's in the nervous sytem. Your nervous system learns how to fire muscles properly to perform certain activities. That's where noob gains come from. Most of your noob gains aren't from muscle growth, their just from your nervous system going being fucking clueless to properly firing off your muscles. It's also the primary reason my someone small can be stronger than a jacked dude. He may not have as much muscle mass as the jacked dude, but his muscles are getting a strong clear impulse from his nervous system, firing the muscle fibers he has much more effectively.
This is how the arm wrestler can beat a body builder. Conversely, if the arm wrestler tried to keep up with the bodybuilder's workout, there's a good chance he would fail. His body would not be used to the movements, and not perform them effectively.
>>141635
Sprints will do it. Compare a sprinter's legs to a marathon runner's. Marathon runners are emaciated and sickly looking. The ultramarathoners are the worst of the worst. Sprinters are fuckhueg jacked from the waist down.
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3b742c No.141657
>>141581
That's 5km
5km = ~3miles
300 calories checks out
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03d4e7 No.141658
>>141636
>Sprints will do it. Compare a sprinter's legs to a marathon runner's.
I find myself puzzled as to why more people don't seem to know this. I can't explain the popularity of endurance running other than I get the impression that most people don't know sprinting exists much less what separates it from jogging. The concept of sprinting is too good to be true for most people, I guess. "Lazier runners get better health and physiques? Hogwash." Why would anyone choose masochistic self-flagellation for miles and ages when you can just do a few quick sprints and be done in 15 min while doing it 1-3 times per week. The body looks healthier and stronger from it too. Who wants to become a skeleton to win a marathon? The skeletons can have all for themselves.
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5dd367 No.141659
>>141581
>>141657
disregard, my murican goggles were still on
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d8f271 No.141660
>>141658
Because most people seem to not care, I guess?
Or maybe because people don't know this simple fact: short and hard = strength, and long and low = endurance.
In Convict Conditioning, Wade talk extensively about how he could do so many pushups, and how that was a mistake regarding strength. Actually, you can train endurance, but it's better to do it as a special training AFTER training strength (or along), like you could train explosiveness with "clap pushup", but the core need to stay strength.
So yeah, if you want to develop strength, sprint, or if you don't want to sprint, do squats (if regular squats are too easy, just go gradually for one leg squat). Heels must touch ground btw. I actually have trouble doing close squat, because of how hard it is for me to stay stable and not fall down. I just switched to running again because I need, you know, to breath and take sun outside, rather than stay locked at home.
Leg Raise, btw, seems to really be the ultimate mid section exercise. I used, as a retard, to do abs…
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7f5a4e No.141737
>>141658
You are a naive idiot if you think that running very fast in a straight line will give you jacked body.
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03d4e7 No.141738
>>141737
What are you on about, dude? Are you trying to goad me into a debate or are you actually so triggered that sprinting gets better results than jogging that you lash out in pain with this post?
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d8a789 No.141855
/fit/, what happened?
A thread about running a couple of years ago would invite 20 replies of
>Doing cardio, ever.
and
>Cardio, I really hope you don't do this
meme replies. Maybe a couple of photos of Zyzz on top.
What the fuck happened? Answering cardio questions seriously without meming for a while at first? Preposterous!
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1e7254 No.141863
>>141855
Anon, it's fitness. If there are men and women in their 60's and up who can run for 26 miles and beyond, then you better fucking believe that the benefits running has on the body and heart is fucking fitness related.
That no-cardio bullshit is a bunch of boomer trolling nonsense. Besides, you could have been the one to start the "Doing cardio, ever." bullshit but you decided to complain instead, as if you're the image board authority in these parts. Pull your head out of your own ass, you stretch-queen.
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03d4e7 No.141865
>>141863
>That no-cardio bullshit is a bunch of boomer trolling nonsense.
The way it is often presented is nonsense, but there is a scientific point of view which makes endurance running or jogging look very unappealing.
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acd692 No.141867
>>141855
It has been noted for the most part /fit/ died the only good thing about it anymore is that you can get advice from coaches for free instead of paying them for an hour now.
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d8f271 No.141868
>>141865
Endurance is a problem in EVERY sports. If you 200 pushups, that's called endurance. Switching to one arm pushup, and you're training straight.
That's the same with running. You should be running fast, and on your toes. Not slowly, for a very long time.
Endurance should be trained as a "side training" to the regular strength training, like "clap pushup" is training explosivity.
Running can be replaced by Squats.
t. Convict conditioning
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d8f271 No.141869
>>141868
>Switching to one arm pushup, and you're training straight.
strength*
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ae009c No.141870
>>141863
What model fridge is that? Does it come in stainless steel?
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fc10ef No.143390
>>140306
Brooks are good. Got mine for free perfect fit.
They use them in the military basic training for.army and marines
Pic related is standard issue.
Not saying running is fun but it makes u feel good and gives u endurance. Not that im gonna do madathons all the time or whatever but im proud to say that i run at least 10 miles a week.
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1e7254 No.143686
>>141870
It's the equivalent to the starting companion you get in a game that levels up alongside yourself and that you grow attached to because you've molded its mind and abilities.
Its the blank canvas for everything you could every hope to become the perfect specimen for an older version of yourself.
That's a sex program </head>, <body>, </html>or whatever. It's the start of something great.
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4cd17b No.143731
Might as well ask here, I did an 8 hour hike a few weeks ago and at the end of it had a dull pain in my right hip. It cleared up pretty quickly but now it flares up any time I walk/run after about a mile. I haven't been doing a huge amount of walking so dunno if it'll clear up by making walking more regular or if it needs seen too. Any suggestions?
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97cbf4 No.143733
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>143731
Take riboflavin to "grease up" that hip joint:
>>143528
Go easy on it while it heals, but get some blood flowing into it with something like the Yijin Jing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yijin_Jing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6NYcasyhs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQUttWLVWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR0Ju98Jv-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f2ksP6S5gw
There are some exercises in there that will help gently wake the hips up. If you keep them too sedentary during the entire healing process or engage in repetitive movements that lack range of motion, it may not heal fully and some function can be lost. Walking is good and can help recovery in some contexts but it lacks range of motion and may lock your hip into having less freedom if you let it heal while doing nothing but the repetitive movements of walking. Don't let the hip become too frozen, and don't let it become too inflamed.
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251dca No.143736
>>143733
this looks great.
Wonder if I do this once a week, could it count for maintaining my joints that would otherwise be destroyed by sedentary lifestyle?
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54a2d8 No.143763
bump for being halfway through my running training.
look for the running infographic and read tim noakes' book "lore of running" to become a marathoner in 10 weeks.
make sure you rest properly and walk a LOT.
in 3-4 weeks I should be able to run 30-60 min every other day
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39de91 No.143859
I haven't run regularly in a year, should I just do couch to 5k again or could I skip a couple weeks.
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8af83b No.144150
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0470cc No.144163
I really enjoy running, is that momment of the day when I can focus on myself and can reorder my thoughts. Isn't boring, when I run I feel alive.
In general I run 5k to 10k. Music is a must, so I go for higer bpm songs, usually EDM or happy hardcore, but sometimes I listen to metal or rock songs.
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2b038c No.144226
>>141863
People who can run the longest actually have shorter life spans.
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8e42d6 No.144377
>>141863
>Actually thinking marathons are good for you
You're so fucking stupid. Even training for a marathon is shown to shorten your lifespan dramatically. Most champions drop dead at 50 because they've effectively stretched their hearts apart. The Marines had to pass a directive telling the entire chain of command to limit running to 30 miles a week, max, with 15 being the soft limit. Running a couple of 3/5ks a week doesn't kill as much gains as broscientist would like you to think, but it should always be done before lifting as a warmup unless you're literally in the military.
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27234c No.144419
>>143390
The optimal run is at a 4-8 minute pace for 30 minutes to an hour.
To get to that pace takes a little bit of training, but worth it so you can burn anyone that fux with u.
Also it makes your sprints faster.
And endurance
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88f214 No.145912
<did a HIIT session on the treadmill the other day
<actually started dripping sweat
Whoa.
Doesn't happen when I jog normally. I kind of like it since sprinting is fun for short bursts. I'll see how this goea but at the same time will try to work as well on my overall running and endurance too.
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7fc0f9 No.145928
>>140049
I want more fit cuties.
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f9eb67 No.145930
>>145912
I run fast for 2km and sprint 500. I drip like crazy
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3916d7 No.145933
>>145928
kurwa.jpg
why bother having the man run when the woman can do it for him?
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885e91 No.146020
>>145928
>tfw no /fit/ qt to lift, run, and chase the kids around with
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b32f9e No.146043
>>146020
>chasing kiddos
wtf
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bafc5f No.146060
>>146043
He probably was talking about chasing kids in a parental way, like how parents play with their kids.
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9ac0ba No.146071
>>146060
>TFWnogf posting
>Is a porn addicted soyboy closet faggot
Totally not mental illness and pedophilia which both T O T A L L Y have no connection at all
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885e91 No.146258
>>146043
>>146071
>playing outside with your hypothetical kids makes you a pedo
Fucking wew.
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1c435b No.147036
Finally started learning to run on my forefoot rather than with my heels. I guess that's a good thing but I feel it way more in my ankles, shins, and calves.
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9193a9 No.147083
https://www.amazon.com/TSLA-Trail-Running-Minimalist-Barefoot/dp/B07MBCNT9S/ref=cts_sh_3_fbt
I've been running in these shoes for a while, they feel much much better then the heavily padded running shoes that cost 100+ dollars and have held up fairly well. You have to actually run properly if you're going to wear them though, as in land on the front of your foot, and not your heel.
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b8d830 No.148199
>>147036
>Calves - Good
>Shins - Eeehh
>Ankles - What
What kind of shoes and socks are running in? What are running on, and what's the incline like? Distances?
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40a648 No.149060
>be fat fuck
>decide to start running to be less of a fat fuck
>shortly after starting, feet start hurting like a bitch, like I was landing on a bruise with every step
>think I might have the wrong kind of shoes, so I buy a pair of running shoes from Salomon
>doesn't help whatsoever
>think I might be landing wrong, but quick searching seems to say I'm doing it right (landing with whole foot rather than just the heel)
What the fuck am I doing wrong then? Every time I go running, it quickly becomes a matter of pain tolerance – even though I have the energy to continue running, my feet start murdering me. Is it normal to have this bitch of a pain when you start running?
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eb35ba No.149061
>>149060
Do you have high arches? Flat feet? Over pronate? Under pronate?
Need the right kind of shoes for your feet if your going to run on em.
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40a648 No.149062
>>149061
>Do you have high arches? Flat feet? Over pronate? Under pronate?
Sorry, I don't really know how any of those look like. How can I tell which one my foot is? Is there a chart or something?
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eb35ba No.149063
>>149062
These might help you. You can also look online for articles that go through how different feet are effected. I myself have high arches, which means there is a space between the inside my my foot and the ground.
I tend to need very stable shoes with support and not "running shoes" per se.
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40a648 No.149066
>>149063
seems to me I have neutral pronation and normal arch.
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eb35ba No.149068
>>149066
Strange, might want to see a podiatrist about the pain.
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40a648 No.149069
>>149068
So the pain is not normal?
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40a648 No.149077
fucking hell, figured it out. Took a much shorter run today to figure out what causes the pain, and realised I was landing wrong after all. While I was landing with the mid of my foot like I should, I wasn't doing it fluidly, meaning every step was more of a stomp. When I focused on making a much more fluid landing today, the pain was many times smaller.
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76505f No.149691
Stupid question. How can I conveniently keep track of time for a couch to 5k without a cell phone? I dieted and went from 30 BMI to 23. I tried running while I was fat, and it was a terrible experience. But I tried a moment ago, while walking the dog, and it was fairly nice. So I'd like to try and get into running.
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498e5f No.149716
>>149691
By getting a cell phone you paranoid /g/abber now uninstall gentoo
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b3395e No.149720
>>149691
A stop watch, a wrist watch (most digitals have this feature for a reason!), a fucking hour glass made for the time you need, a tablet/old phone/media player, most of them have a time/clock application built in; maybe a sun dial if you're the biggest autist to ever exist. It's not complicated, just get something that measures time in a human readable format, it doesn't even have to be perfect, and follow the program.
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2a78d1 No.149816
>>140338
I know this is an old post, but no, cardio bunnies are real it's just that their preferred habitat is the treadmill.
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5b6192 No.149823
>tfw running on gravel
>tfw running on sand
holy fuck I spent the last few weeks running about 2.8 miles on a loose gravel road. I felt like I had regressed to when I first started out running. Just the first mile felt more like 2 or 3 miles. It's a really great workout but damn is it frustrating. Running on a beach is similar, the sand just absorbs the force of your leg as you try to push off, so you end up going nowhere.
I'm going to run on solid pavement later today and see how different it feels now.
>>149077
Glad to hear it, anon. If you haven't already tried it, there was some advice posted earlier in the thread about running barefoot through a grassy field or similar. I think that helps immensely to determine what your natural stride feels like. A lot of modern running shoes seem to interrupt our bodies' natural movements and I think that's what leads to many jogging injuries.
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d79c9c No.149826
>>149823
>A lot of modern running shoes seem to interrupt our bodies' natural movements and I think that's what leads to many jogging injuries.
Yeah that's the marketing speech for "natural step" and "low drop" shoes. Reality for running injuries is simpler, it's that average runner is much fatter now than in the past. Bone and sinew can only take so much repetitive heavy impact before breaking.
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