No.7797
I've been reading a lot about semiotics lately and I'm hoping to watch some films that deal with semiotics in one way or another, I feel like film as a medium is uniquely suited to tackle it. I'm sure there are a ton of films that do so but I'm not really sure where to start, mid-period Godard (70s and 80s) looks promising... It seems like academic-type films would probably be ripe with this stuff. Anyone have any recs?
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No.7798
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Interesting topic. The first thing I thought of was Helvetica, a documentary about the widely-used font
The director Gary Huswit likes to examine aspects of contemporary design. I haven't seen Urbanized (about urban environments) or Objectified (about manufactured objects) but they both look worthwhile.
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No.7800
I think semiotics is discussed often in film books but I haven't read very many of them
Maybe you will like this
Hollis Frampton - Zorn's Lemma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2-GZRYGd8&t=2m11s
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No.7844
Tell us some interesting things you've read about it
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No.7846
>>7844
man i havent been coming on here very often. thanks for the suggestions, I've seen Helvetica, it was good, I think Zorn's Lemma is closer to what I'm thinking of. I read Mythologies by Barthes, Precession of Simulacra by Baudrillard, On Several Regimes of Signs by D&G, and some other assorted essays. I've been especially interested in the way that symbols take on significance in relation to nations, and how they're disseminated in images through the media and advertising, and function as centers of power. One good example would be the way that North Korea portrays their leaders, there's plenty of books about it. The visual and aural aspects of film seems well equipped to portray and deconstruct the relationships that images have with our daily lives. One example of what I'm thinking of could be The Creators of Shopping Worlds by Harun Farocki. I think the avant garde is probably the best place to find thoughtful deconstructions of image processing and symbol-making, I'm just not exactly sure where to look
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No.7872
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"Semiotics in the Kitchen"
I don't know if this is relevant despite the name. I like how the format of this short can be easily adapted or parodied.
The message is whiny feminism, meh. The kitchen is so oppressive.
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No.8626
OP here returning to this thread after a few months, I've gone on to watch many of Godard's mid-period films. They were exactly what I was looking for, Gai De Savoir in particular was fantastic and the Dziga Vertov films are interesting if imperfect. I've also been trying to watch more films by Harun Farocki but his stuff is really hard to find, anyone have any idea where to watch his films?
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No.8627
>>8626
Which Farocki are you looking for?
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