No.2464
There are a lot of great French crime films.
What are your favorites?
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No.2468
Plein Soleil has a strong Hitchcock feel, perhaps the most of any non-Hitchcock film.
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No.2470
>>2468What other Rene Clement films do you recommend? Besides Jeux interdits.
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No.2471
>>2470I've only see a few others but they were underwhelming.
Rider on the Rain was great for about 30 minutes though. Apparently Jim Morrison liked it since it inspired a Doors song.
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No.2481
Recently saw the MoC of this early Clouzot
Breddy good, it bridges the style of the old school parlor mystery with a mid-40s crime film
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No.2581
JP Melville is obviously one of the major figures of this genre, as OP indicates with the image. Having seen eight of his films, my favorite is Le deuxième souffle. Army of Shadows and Le doulos are right up there too.
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No.2606
Alphaville
inb4 blatantly obvious.
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No.2929
Le Circle Rouge
Rififi
both classics.
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No.2941
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No.2942
>>2941although technically it was directed by an american Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
No.3484
Touchez pas au grisbi
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No.3492
>>3484Surprised that's not in the thread here already.
It's quite a revelation to see after watching Melville films. It was obviously a huge influence on him – really a prototype for so many of the points he hits again and again in his gangster films.
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No.10837
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No.10840
I recently found Jose Giovanni's influence in 60's and early 70's France, i saw some of his but didn't catch he was also a main-time writer. Pretty addictive if he scratches you a couple of times, some of his stuff are:
1960's Le Trou with Constantin, and Classe tous Risques with Ventura and Belmondo
1965's Les Grandes Gueules with Bourvil and Ventura, and Le Deuxième Souffle with Ventura and Constantin
1967's Le Rapace with Ventura once again, and Les Aventuriers, while it isn't a crime film itself, it is worth mentioning for its main cast (Ventura, Delon, Reggiani), but not that good
1969's Dernier Domicile Connu, which is more of a detective one but pretty interesting at that, Ventura and Jobert. And obviously Le Clan des Siciliens, with a main cast of Delon, Gabin and Ventura to boot.
1972 and 1973 had La Scoumoune, with Belmondo, Constantin and Cardinale, and Deux Hommes dans la Ville, with Delon and Gabin.
A little over the top and maybe campy at times, but the guy certainly wasn't kidding around
Melville at this point and level needs no introduction
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No.10842
>>10840
Ah yes, I remember hearing a little about Giovanni when I watched Le trou. I didn't know the extent of his influence into all those other films. Very cool.
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No.12457
Any particular reason why Marseille is in so many of these French gangster films? Just a seedy town?
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No.12458
>>12457
I think, just by doing a silly dot connect, that it gets quite the attention due to being a port hub to Corsica and Italy (Corsican mafia) and some arab countries (particularly Libya) a military base, tons of migration funneling there and IIRC, a big red light district
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No.12460
>>12458
Yeah I see a lot of entries about the mob in Marseille. I thought the city might have improved a bit since these movies were made, but it sounds like there's still a lot of crime and corruption there.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/17/marseille-crime-fiction-rose-sang
Wikipedia even blames current populism for pushing minorities into crime... I hadn't heard that logic before, but I suppose anti-immigrant populism empowers hardliners on the other side of the issue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milieu_%28organized_crime_in_France%29
<A global push for populism and anti-immigrant sentiments have led to increased Milieu activity. Minority members of French society are being lured into crime families as a way of "fitting in".
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No.12462
>>12460
>"I thought the city might have improved since"
>Port hub to Africa and Sardegnia/Sicilia countrysides
I think it's safe to say, in the current climate, that Marseille is not doing very good these days.
I was going to say that before but i don't like being too inflammatory around here.
>Wikipedia even blames current populism for pushing minorities into crime
Populism is a lot of things depending on the population (and its majority) but in the case of Marseille, i don't know who really is "the minority", if their populism is for or against France and if we talk in "traditional" definitions, are foreigners the majority of criminals because of populist/anti-immigrant sentiments or said sentiments are being distilled because foreigners are the majority of criminals?
These days some stuff happening makes definitions and words change way too fast
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No.12470
>>12462
Well I haven't heard anything particularly bad about Marseille lately, unlike Calais or Cologne or London. So I wasn't sure what to think about it.
As for the wiki page, I'm sure they are blaming National Front supporters for a bad kind of populism that leads to a negative reaction in others. Their hypothesis is probably true to a degree. At the same time, bashing euro populism is more about being politically fashionable than identifying root causes. In this case I think it's being used to blame-shift for the actions of criminals themselves -- and also the actions of political elites whose policies created many of the societal problems in the first place.
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No.15494
>>2464
Le Samourai- one of the best neo-noir gangster flicks about a man paid to kill but who is then betrayed by his employer. Very cool gangster film. You can really feel how this influenced Tarantino and other modern gangster directors.
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