No.2402 [View All]
Excluding new releases, which films do you want to watch but cannot find?
I'm intrigued by
Once, an allegorical dialogue-free feature that premiered at Cannes in 1974. The film could be fascinating or boring as hell, but the soundtrack of lo-fi ambient electronics would make it worthwhile to find out.
http://martakristen.com/marta/film/once/index.htmlhttp://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=97678&forumID=7&archive=0http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071941/It's reasonable to assume the film still exists somewhere. Hopefully it becomes publicly available eventually.
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No.6729
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No.7572
Does anyone know where/if I can watch any of these?
The Story of Sue San - King Hu
Une Femme Coquette - Godard
Little Boy Male, Little Girl Female - Pedro Costa
Strangulation Blues - Leos Carax
Those Who Make Tomorrow - Kurosawa
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No.7573
>>7572
Oh, and Oliveira's Acto Da Primavera
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No.7574
>>4230
>>The Boy and the World
I literally found that one on kickass a year ago with one simple search, you've just not been looking hard enough.
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No.7579
>>3056
>No one will ever find a copy of what is almost certainly Lon Chaney's best film
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No.7580
The poster's not bad either
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No.7582
>>7580
there's an .avi on PTP. I'm downloading it, always down for a good silent horror, I can upload it to mega for you
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No.7583
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No.7587
>>7572
Little Boy Male, Little Girl Female is on the criterion "letters from fontaihnas"
i have the criterion, do you know where can i upload it for you to download?
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No.7590
>>7582
Thanks dude. I assume it's this 2002 reconstruction since the original is the most-desired missing silent film
http://silentera.com/PSFL/data/L/LondonAfterMidnight1927.html
> The last known copy of the film was lost in an MGM vault fire in 1967. In 2002, Rick Schmidlin completed an approximation presentation of the film’s original storyline through use of production photographs, the original intertitles and a new music score.
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No.7592
>>7590
yeah you're right, I hadn't watched it before I uploaded it
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No.7594
>>7572
I think I can find some of these.
I'll post them in the Request Thread since they don't really look like "lost" films.
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No.7614
>>7587
You could put it on a dropbox or something similar. I would really appreciate it, together with any other Criterion features you'd like to share. In Vanda's Room is my all time favorite film
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No.7616
>>7614
rip will finish in an hour or so, included everything on the supplements disc, didn't add subs, don't think that's be a problem
in Vanda's Room is great, but colossal youth is my fav, casa de lava is close
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No.7617
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No.7619
>>7617
Thanks a lot, I've been looking for this for a while now
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No.7620
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No.7621
Anybody got Tsai Ming-Liang´s Afternoon?
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No.7632
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No.7703
Geomeuna Dange Huina Baekseong by Bae Yong-Kyun.
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No.8164
Lost work by early film pioneer Melies found in Prague
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lost-early-film-pioneer-melies-found-prague-155126105.html
> Researchers at the Czech national film archives said Tuesday they had found a film by early cinema pioneer Georgers Melies that was thought to have been lost forever. The silent two-minute "Match de prestidigitation" ("Conjuring contest"), dating from 1904, was found on a reel given to the archives by an anonymous donor, labelled as another film.
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No.9702
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Keep an eye out for a release of Palmer Rockey's film "It Happened One Weekend". He's quite a strange fellow who spent most of his life promoting this self-made film which was lost until recently. It's probably terrible but there's an interesting story behind it.
http://www.latimes.com/local/great-reads/la-et-c1-ct-film-orphans-deluxe-entertainment-20150205-story.html#page=2
>One of his success stories is a 1974 cult film called "It Happened One Weekend," the life's work of a Texas musician-turned-filmmaker named Palmer Rockey. He produced, wrote, directed and starred in the movie, and provided the musical score.
>"You couldn't make this guy's story up," Lea said, admiringly. "It was a real labor of love for him."
>The movie, a murder-romance-horror tale involving twin bothers, was panned as an incoherent jumble by critics when it premiered at a film festival. Undeterred, Rockey spent years revising the film, which went through multiple name changes. Rockey died in 1996, and the final cut was never seen in movie theaters.
>But it built up a cult following and even inspired a book by one of its stars: Rockey's ex-wife, Mary Ann Ashcraft.
http://www.trunkrecords.com/turntable/rockey.shtml
>He believed he could make an Oscar winning movie. To do so (rumour has it) he borrowed and conned money from wealthy Texan housewives. He never worked at the time, being instead supported by his hard working wife Cookie Ann with her job at the Post Office. She even worked overtime for three years so he could get his film off the ground. When he had money, he shot film. When he shot film he fell out with crew and cast. He’d then run out of money. Then find some more, then shoot more film with new crew and cast. And so it went on, for years. The “finished” film, It Happened One Weekend was only shown once (ironically just once, one weekend), at the premier in Canyon Creek, October 11th, 1974. In fact the photo on the front of this LP was shot by Cookie Ann on her brownie camera the night of the premier, a night when Palmer had managed to get about 300 people along. The film was written, produced, edited, directed and starred Palmer Rockey (as twin brothers of course), with music by Palmer Rockey. The plot was apparently demonic and “beyond the room of terrifying evil”. Also included was a ‘Sunday Surprise Ending”. I believe the surprise that Sunday was that people laughed all the way through, and even walked out. It was a total disaster on every level, nothing in the movie made sense. Undeterred by such poor initial responses Palmer Rockey took it to LA to try and get it qualified for the Academy Awards. He continued to tinker with the film, and released it again and again in several different versions over the next few years, firstly with the title It Happened On Sunday, which played briefly in Denver, El Paso and also at drive-in theatres. The film then disappeared, was recut with new scenes and appeared again in 1980, as Rockey’s Style, Scarlet Love and also Scarlet Warning 666. All the while he was battling debtors, having already been sued in the 1960s by his uncle for non-payment of loans. There’s not a great deal of information about his career and life in the 1980s, but we do know he passed away in 1996, leaving behind very little apart from debt and this unusual self-pressed album.
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No.9734
I know it's not a lost film, but ffs i just can't find it anywhere and i want to watch it badly for years and years. I did found it once and download it, but then i could find subs anywhere.
The film i'm talking about is Edvard Munch by Peter Watkins
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No.9739
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No.9823
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New documentary about finding a long lost collection of 533 nitrate film prints
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No.12179
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No.12180
>>12179
Thanks, interesting commentary that touches on a lot of topics. I hadn't thought about colorizing a complete film for restoration purposes rather than as an alternative version, if you get my point. I wonder if this has happened yet?
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No.12181
>>7572
>>7587
>>7614
>>7617
>>7619
I realize this was almost 2 years ago, but if anyone still has "Little Boy Male, Little Girl Female" I'd be grateful if they could upload it to mega.
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No.12182
>>12181
It's legitimately unobtainable, at least on the internet. I see it nowhere on any of the torrent/download sites.
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No.12400
Justing Oakey's Riverhead, it's a 2016 Canadian film and I can't believe there isn't a way to find it.
Oakey collaborated with Norvegian collective Ulver and the soundtrack itself is astounding.
If anyone know where to find it please let me know, it's very important.
https://mubi.com/it/films/riverhead
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No.12402
>>12400
Was it ever on Mubi?
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No.13958
The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell is a lost horror film. It's been said that the film is so graphic and violent that is caused mass hysteria in the theaters where all the viewers were attacking each other in their moment of insanity. Because of hysteria, the film got banned and it was toned down and cut from 3 hours to 78 minutes under the name "Last House on Dead End Street". Rumor has it that the original film still exists in New York's film archives.
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No.13969
>>13958
Assuming this isn't just a marketing stunt, theoretically where would you need to go to find this movie in New York? There are dozens of archives here.
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No.13972
>>12400
> the soundtrack itself is astounding.
yeah it's worth a spin. I wonder why there's no movie
https://ulver.bandcamp.com/album/riverhead-original-soundtrack
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No.13994
Pinocchio 964
Can't see it online for some reason. (Free)
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No.13996
>>13994
It can't be lost if it's on Amazon. If you want links you should try the request thread.
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No.14026
>>2427
>>2436
With how great Buffalo 66 was how did Brown Bunny turn out so badly, I got sick of it within the first 5 minutes cause it looked insufferably sappy (but I'll eventually give it another chance). I'm not saying it should never be released but it's probably a giant piece of shit of a film and sometimes cancelled or shelved projects are done so for a reason.
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No.14030
>>14026
BB is indeed a masterpiece, you just need to make a travel to american underground cinema from the 60s to understand it, pal.
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No.14150
>>14030
It took me 3 days to finish that boring insufferable movie, it's just him staring at the horizon and touching random women. Every movie he's been in is just him moping his past and since he isn't European he doesn't get a pass to be artsy, call me when he makes a movie that isn't about him. There were some nice shots and scenes I liked however.
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No.14152
>>14150
>insufferable
So you don't get it, it's ok if you can't argue about it happens to all of us.
>some nice shots and scenes
Hint: this is what all the movie is about
Take a look at what he said about critics, pic related.
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No.14153
>>14152
Seems he doesn't have an argument either. A movie about scenery and location could work if that was the main contention of it but it was about a motorcycle racer going across country to visit his ex-girlfriend, nothing about the synopsis is "vague" for interpretation or really explores the scenery taken. I've seen some alternative 60s films prior and it barely has similarity to the Brown Bunny.
The whole thing was pointless and unless this is autobiographical I guess I'll never understand it or personally didn't like it.
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No.14159
>>14153
The fact is the film IS autobiographical (like his previous movie, but in a higher way). I bet you can't see a shot like this in any other film whose director hadn't an illness urge to transform his feelings into art so hard.
The thing is you can't really see a narrative here cause there isn't it's all about feel it.
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No.14163
>>14159
Personal issues and emotions don't translate well into art, becoming mushy or pretentious in the process. It's a person's world and you only know yourself and can relate to yourself, and only the creator will understand so what's the point really unless at best you will get some people to merely understand it. Buffalo 66 also isn't completely autobiographical or at least the final product isn't so there's that to keep in mind he's done multiple interviews on it (however he said he lies to build an image of himself so there's that to keep in mind). It's not one of the worst movies ever made or even particularly mediocre, in short it's a navel-gazing wank and not much else and I appreciate how much he devoted himself to it.
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No.14165
>>14163
>Personal issues and emotions don't translate well into art
Sure, say that to Brakhage.
If you really think art must be "understood" you're not understanding anything at all. In my experience, people with real arguments never use the "understanding" card in a debate and, specially BB, can be attacked in so many ways, so I'm not buying it. Nothing personal.
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No.14166
>>14165
Fair enough point.
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No.14167
>>14163
<Personal issues and emotions don't translate well into art
isn't the main attraction of art that skilled artists can translate any any psyxic thing into a communicible form?
nothing must be understood, but your experience of an art product is often going to be better if you understand the art product. though you're right about the 'understanding' card: if you say "you just don't understand the art product, if you understood the art product, you would understand this", you are not really helping anyone understand anything; and there is a sort of person who will leave arguments like that with a feeling of discouragement as though he cannot understand art, which tends to cause him to stop making attempts to understand art.
so
>>14030
please, instead of telling us that we need to do X to understand it, help us understand it. tell us about it. give a description of it's essential qualities that make it what it is. and don't just say 'ineffability of art', art is not ineffable, maybe some particular art products are, but then you must give a good reason for us to believe that that art product is ineffable.
>>14150
<since he isn't European he doesn't get a pass to be artsy
that's false reasoning, though the conclusion is true: nobody gets a pass to anything based on the parts of their identity which they cannot control. if being european and making art is sufficient for that art to be considered good, then why is my art not considered good? i'm european, i make bad art. despicable. or maybe my art is just misunderstood and ineffable
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No.14170
>>14167
^this nigga goin wild
First things, first; I didn't even said that "art is ineffable" trash you came with (which is funny you enter the debate showing yourself that way). On the other hand, you're misunderstanding making an axioma to defend your personal thoughts for not being capable to understand art with the inherent condition of an art being expressed by feelings which is where I was focusing the argument in the first place. You want to go wild and jump out the window, it's ok for me.
>That said.
I think I was very clear pointing a direction to "understand" what emotional films like the one Gallo did, anyways, I'll give you both more hints since you asked.
Add to your wishlist films directed by sensible directors like Ozu, Ford, Bresson or Gotard (among others); people who understood the importance of gestures and so did Gallo (trough his egomaniac ways) in both of his movies.
Aside of that, you can see in BB a lot of improvisation, a thing which is completely forgotten these days, just watch Cassavettes's Faces you'll understand it quickly.
Btw, cut both of you the "product" thing since we're talking of art manifestations not industry little toys. You're welcome.
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No.14174
>>7632
Went to their website and the only movie they had for sale was Who Killed Captain Alex, a shame since they've made the best action to ever exist
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No.14213
The Prussian Cur (1918)
WWI anti-German propaganda directed by Raoul Walsh. This poster is rather interesting as we see Uncle Sam about to intervene with Lady Liberty and "DEMOCRACY" behind him. The first of many such interventions!
<The film's director, Raoul Walsh, called it his "rottenest picture ever" for its anti-German sentiment, while its star Miriam Cooper (Walsh's wife) called it the worst film in which she had ever appeared.
The film includes a depiction of a Canadian who was crucified by German soldiers. The shocking story was based on real accounts from the war, though difficult to verify it was effective war propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crucified_Soldier
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No.15742
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