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 No.2134

Which country has the best cinema, /film/? For me:

>1920s:

1. Germany
2. USA
3. France

>1930s:

1. USA
2. France
3. Japan

>1940s:

1. USA (obvs)
2. Italy
3. UK

>1950s:

1. Japan
2. USA
3. France (really tempted to say India)

>1960s:

1. France
2. Italy
3. Japan (maybe USSR)

>1970s:

1. USA
2. Germany
3. UK

>1980s:

1. USSR
2. USA
3. Hong Kong (not technically a country, but very distinct cinema industry)

>1990s:

1. USA
2. France
3. Hong Kong (Taiwan if we're talking quality over quantity)

>2000s:

1. USA, I guess
2. South Korea?
3. dunno lol


So overall USA wins by a pretty large margin.
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 No.2174

Interesting topic. I probably haven't seen enough to make a strong judgement of every decade.

Certainly I love Hollywood films of the 30s and 40s. And I've often felt that the most creative stuff in the 60s came out of Japan and Czechoslovakia. French New Wave was good too, but pretty hit and miss IMO.
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 No.2175

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chile because the holy mountain is the best film of all time
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 No.2177

>>2134
i'd say france but then again other places have made a lot of great films
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 No.2195

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Whoa somebody answered! There is life!

>>2174
I find it interesting too, but so many times I've had people dismiss it as inane chauvinism in other forums. I'm fascinated by the cultural aspect of cinema and I really believe a lot of the time WHERE a movie was made is more important than WHO made it.

As for the rest, I like Czech new wave (I'm working my way through this list http://goo.gl/Ht3mcB), but when making my picks I factored in both quality and quantity of production (see picture). Japan and Italy were respectively the 1st and 3rd producers of films in the period 1960-1974, adding to something like 20% of the world's output. France was not for behind. Smaller nations just don't have the numbers to compete, even though the very top movies are extremely good.
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 No.2201

>>2195

I'm not sure why the question would elicit that reaction. It's similar to debating which countries/cultures produced the best literature, fashion, architecture, automobiles, etc. Art and design are subjective, but it's still interesting to examine trends and attempt to draw conclusions.
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 No.9912

>1920's

>Not USSR

>Literally every single time period has no eastern European countries as no.1.

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 No.9918

>>9912

Which decades would you rank East Euro countries highest (aside from USSR in 1920s)?

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 No.9920

>>9918

30's/

40's

50's/

90's/

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 No.9921

>>9920

Interesting. Which countries / directors would you base that upon

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 No.9922

>>9921

Everyone from montage theory.

Indirect influence outside.

Tarkovsky.

And Sokurov.

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 No.9923

>>2134

I was wondering the exact same thing some days ago

What country didn't drop in quality in the 80's other than HK?

France started to suffer since the 70's, going full gay comedies in mid-70's

USA embraced the blockbuster philosophy and injected money and actors instead of scripts and directors

Italy so far seems to have been caught in comedies, exploitation stuff and lots of nudity

And i think Hong Kong blasted the US in the 90's, South Korea in the 00's but mostly because of the ratio, half of their movies are watchable, unlike 00's US, who has an understandable unbalanced ratio due to Hollywood

I ignore France post-80's, other than Annaud and Jeunet

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 No.9924

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>>9923

>What country didn't drop in quality in the 80's other than HK?

There must be a few examples, perhaps in a country that didn't have many films before that, but I think most of the big players were better in the 70s

Some film movements of the 80s:

* Late 1970s and 1980s – Hong Kong New Wave Cinema

* 1980s – Russian Parallel Cinema (also referred to as Soviet Parallel Cinema)

* 1980s and 2000s – South Korean New Wave Cinema

* 1980s to present – American Independent Cinema

* 1980s – French ‘Cinéma du look’ Film Movement

* 1982-1990 – Taiwanese First New Wave Cinema

* 1990-2010 – Taiwanese Second New Wave Cinema

* Late 1980s to present – East Asian Cinema [including influential genres like the Hong Kong action film, Japanese anime and South Korean thriller movie]

Here's a book talking about fresh 80s film movements in countries like Iran, Bolivia, Philippines. These movements were all based on Super 8 which I don't personally enjoy very much. I watched the Berlin Super 80 collection and there wasn't too much that stuck with me.

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