/film/ - FILM

>>14067

Looks great man, and congrats for seeing your project through to the end. It's been a while since anyone posted their own films here. How long is it?

>>14071

Thanks man. It'll be about 83 minutes long...yeah paid out of pocket. We didn't want to kickstart or anything like that.

Cool, nice job. Do you have a trailer yet? It would be nice to get a better idea of what this film is like.

How do you get your films on the major streaming sites? What kinds of festivals are you looking at?

>>14073

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment. We have character/atmospheric trailers. We'll cut a slightly more meaty one for the streaming sites that require them, but otherwise I'm not very fond of trailers that give away too much.

As far as getting them on streaming sites, Amazon simply has technical requirements, fairly easy to get on. Other sites like Hulu and Netflix you have to have a distributor or pitch for. Hulu we will most likely be getting on, but Netflix will probably not happen. The film doesn't fit their audience imo.

I'm looking at mid-tier festivals for now. Several in Amsterdam (Imagine for example), FilmQuest, Comic Con, etc. No point in submitting to Sundance, Tribecca, or Cannes; again, it doesn't fit the audience. There are several national film festivals that have large viewings; Philly has one that is somewhat famous for example for example.

They really try to play gatekeepers, but now is probably the best time to get into film if you can commit to the work load and vision, since you can get your work on atleast one major platform without too much hassle. On a side note, make sure to have someone doing captioning. That is a pain in the ass if you aren't going to pay for it.

How much of those two years (i think not all, for sleep, feed, bathe, and others) of how many persons of what sorts? espec. What sorts of ways to get to be those sorts of person?

Speaking of costs, I'm curious how much will it cost to submit to these festivals? Maybe 1k total? And how much money do you make from Amazon/Hulu?

>>14090

Not really sure I understand your question. Are you asking how much of the two years was spent directly working on the film?

>>14092

You make more off physical (people still buy) and the dividends on Amazon/Hulu are fairly low. The main point is to shop it around at festivals, you get picked up, and win. Which is how you really make money on the independent side of things.

>>14092

But yes, around 1k if you were submitting to every mid-tier festival. Really not that expensive. Sundance is $75 for example (won't be submitting there, but as a reference).

Here is a free link to the film, for however long it remains on YouTube. We hope you enjoy.

>>14115

Wow, thanks a lot!

>>14115

Why not just magnet link, like a true chad?

>>14117

Oh fuck, Idk how to do that.

>>14116

You're welcome. I hope you all like it.

Is this world premiere? Or maybe advance screening.

I don't know if you'd want to use a magnet because you would have less control over it

>>14121

>less control

What does that even mean? You can download it straight off from youtube in 1080p quite easily and then share it on tpb/here/wherever. It depends only on that if he wants to share master or more transparent version than the YT one and let others to make it somewhat immortal. It will get there anyway.

I don't know if amazon/hulu even offer downloads and in what quality, but the industry standard is around 5000 Kbps when 1080p, and that's not enough even if encoded properly in hevc, and only god knows how they encode shit.

Anyway, I'm just downloading it. Would eventually buy physical copy if good, but shipping overseas is still very costly.

>>14121

>>14122

Advance screening, premiere will be at a festival.

Feel free to download, we'll have physical available but idgaf if you download it tbh. People will one way or another haha. I just hope people like it and maybe reach out to us about it.

>>14115

Did you film most of Spriggan in chronological order? A friend and I got that impression while watching it yesterday because the camerawork gets much better as the film goes along. Seeing two years of growth in slightly over an hour was a neat experience as Spriggan went from a couple friends fucking around in the woods to something bordering on a good film.

It looks like you guys had a lot of fun and I hope you make more films in the future. With a little more practice and better audio, you guys could make some good shit. Also, please store your armor properly. The knight's helmet gets rustier every scene.

>>14320

Wow thank you so much. We did film it chronologically, as I took advice from Refn and a few others that advised doing so. Better to have a strong finish than a beginning is what they said. Valhalla Rising was big inspiration for me doing that.

The only exception to this actually is the Spriggan scene itself; that was shot in the middle but otherwise everything else was done in order. Thanks for the love, we are going to try and make more for sure <3

Short film version we are using for short film festivals.

Added a flare to the blood moon.

Been busy with filming Watchmen so haven't been able to keep up on here as much. Hope everyone is having a good Spring.

Made a generic trailer for the Amazon/streaming services. We got lucky and the Frazetta family (Frank Frazetta if for some reason you are not familiar) watched the film and liked it. I saw another indie fantasy film doing well, called The Headhunter, but it is shot in a much more standard way (colors are that Nolan Blue that is ever so popular). We may end up getting some non-pozzed fantasy films out of this generation after all.

>>15104

thx! hadn't seen that pic before either

>>15337

Rating is improving, only one bad review.

I upboated the other ones

>>15342

thanks man you didn't have to do that. as long as people watch it idgaf. we succeeded in making a non-pozzed fantasy film and that is what matters. im glad everyone on here has been receptive though, mainly because Souls culture is prevalent on here and kino is always welcomed. so to draw from both and create something watchable in CY+5 was our main objective. next film we'll hopefully have a 20k budget or around there instead of 5k haha.

Idk if you anons suddenly started watching it on Amazon or something but the views shot up. Thanks. We got #1 in our respective "tier" (which is basically B-movie fantasy). Big deal for a small production. If you are reading this and thinking about doing your own film, it is difficult but the satisfaction is worth it. There is a market for people who want non-pozzed films apparently, who knew?

>>15385

Hey, man, congrats. I looked it up on Amazon BR, but I guess it's not availabe in my country. When I have the time I will watch it on Youtube for sure.

The little I've seen in this thread has motivated me a lot and I already started some video related classes, but making a film is still a pretty remote dream for me, you really achieved something.

>>15391

First start actually shooting, something, experiment, try, don't watch retarded video classes, there's nothing more corrupting, watching films should have given you very much already, if you are more greekish than roman, and they are corrupting as well.. Tap into photography too, if you haven't yet. Start with fullscreen, no landscapes, no "nature", focus on human. Read the books/watch videos directly on shooting either after you made something you didn't burn or delete afterwards, or simultaneously, Sadoul isn't bad for starters I guess, read theatre theory too, which is way more fun. Always make sure you screen it to somebody, even if it's only small number of people. Get into the current film culture your city has, if you live in a city.

Get friends, get acquaintances, get girlfriend, get boyfriend, if you have only few or none, well, we are on chan haha.

but tbh if this served you as "motivation" then don't, if you haven't read any theory while being interested in consuming then don't, doubly so

>>15395

>Sadoul isn't bad for starters

bad wording, you should start with him and he's not about shooting just to be clear

Tbh just looked up some, they are all snake oil, as americans say, for retards from some, suprise suprise, other retards, predominantly americans, as expected. Inherently. It's like those so-popular "books for dummies" or "history of philosophy in 10,000 words". And recommended herzog, lol, herzog hardly is competetent enough to teach anybody about how to make films.

You, fellow brazilian, shit on this board for not writing pages-long essayes and having small userbase not interested in talking with people you can't know while contributing nothing yourself, and then you show us all how much a redditor you are? I don't get you. Just a joke, heh? I can't actually believe I'm writing this on /film/ of all places.

>>15395

Everyone doez it differently. Reading theory is good, but too much and you are going to wind up like a Wes Anderson or Jew Jew Abrams mimicking others. Also, photography is NOT a good place to start; it teaches you singular framing instead of objects moving and being displaced. All I'm going to say on the subject, as again, everyone has a different approach. Herzog is also an excellent source, watch Aguirre and study what he does with very little in terms of cast and surroundings. If you don't like his films, that is fine. But that doesn't change that they are well done and unique to him. I agree though that a lot of americans into film are hacks, mostly because they either are Michael Bay or (worse) they fellate French/soy films and try to emulate it too much to the point where it is elementary and hollow. Result of over-research and not developing a uniqye taste and style.

The one anon saying have outside influences and activities is 100% spot on though. It is important to have these, especially if you are working on a long term project.

Either way, I hope all of you pick up the camera and make a go at it. Brazil has beautiful environments and a lot of potential.

>>15399

>photography

>singular framing

agree, but is still good because you capture, sure, it's different but if he didn't pick any interest in shooting yet but latent, this is certainly a good place to start, as filmmaker you are tapping probably into all arts there are anyway and this is the closest one I know of, in the end even if it teaches him bad things or corrupts him even more he'll at least either get to know the difference, pick up new "hobby" or, most importantly, start to desire shooting. At least I felt the last way, you want the eternal to live. I'll just say that photography has a lot useful purposes for the act of filmmaking, but I'm no Cicero, sorry.

>everyone has a different approach

yes

>but too much and you are going to wind up

Depends on the character. If you have no, say, individualistic tendencies it's very, very easy to get brainwashed by yourself, when the creative spirit is stronger than the critic or if you have none critic spirit too. One of the reasons why every artist should be critique first, his whole life.

>mimicking

mimicking is not fine

>aguirre

almost 50 years ago, if said lecture(s) are like 10 years old it's shit, he made so much trash since and doubt he remembers it well, otherwise sure, great, but it still greatly depends on you and your surroundings and the exploration of, say, basics is something that's really nice; knowing can be restraint, one that's hard to overcome too.

obligatory:

Photographie tu es l'ombre

Du Soleil

Qu'est sa beauté

Holy shit man! You should be really proud, its one thing to fuck around with your friends but like others have mentioned this is a pretty solid B-Movie, certainly better than most of the shit out there.

Its really impressive to see it on Amazon too. I noticed that its free with Amazon prime? Is there any other way to support you? Like a dvd or patreon?

I just started a production company with an american anon as well, we want to establish a kind of forgotten distribution for films that deserve more than a dusty casette. If we manage to get it off the ground, we will start to produce a couple of films based on our scripts and this thread is a great inspiration, thank you again

>>15392

>>15395

>i recommend Werner Herzog's master class

I had my eyes on that for sometime now, besides the other classes from masterclass.com. But part of me also thinks like the other anon and wants to experiment first.

It's not that I just taken up interest after seeing this thread, but that up to this point in my life I had other worries, so I couldn't do much besides watching films. But right now (and I'm still only 24yo) I have the time and stability to start.

I'm currently going to a video workshop and learning more about operating cameras (specially DSLR), so by next month I hope to know which equipment to buy, but I will definitely add the G7 to the possibilities list. I also didn't try to learn only by myself because I agree with the "get friends" advice. I do have a few friends, but I come from a STEM background, so they don't seem very interested in my film ambitions...

Maybe everyone here knows about him, but another big inspiration for me is Shane Carruth, famous for Primer and Upstream Color (amazing film also shot on a Panasonic DSLR).

>>15417

>masterclass.com

Now now, that's a nice gold.

>gaiman

<master of storytelling

>timbaland

>portman

>lynch

<teaches creativity

>teaches

>creativity

>santana

>soul

I sincerely hate teaching and teachers. I can't say I lost any respect as I don't know what respect is(I think I don't know skammen as well), but I'm sure to not give a fuck about Lynch anymore. At least he doesn't pretend to be "european".

You remind me of one of my girlfriends though, same background, same inspiration (I'm completely against the notion of, hm, meta-inspirations though, you wanna do it or not, that's it, if you said you want to be painter after reading Гоголь's Портрет or anti-obscurantist revolutionary after reading Маяковский, anti-commercialist after seeing Montparnasse 19, in love after O Padre e a Moça or jew/nazi after Démanty Noci, sane after hearing live Un Autre Chemin Vers L'Ultime, bohemian charlatan after hearing Dvořák or far from safe after hearing Lizst, I'd get you, but not after reading prosaic shit about one's life or seeing his achievments, you do always only for yourself, what others do or did doesn't matter, your inspiration is dream, platonic sensation) which I rooted out first, she had somewhat shit taste too, it wasn't even hard changing it, she liked jodorowsky and vláčil before btw. I still wish vláčil picked something more interesting than shitty bestseller, and this I'm saying as someone who has similar taste as Šalda. Zeyer's Čechův příchod would be perfect and undeniably more challenging, going against his monotonic, shattered hypnotic grain, gaze; something for director who takes the theatric from bergman, some of the fassbinder's rich composition, the assaultive russel tone, fellini's bombastic satyricon production, rohmer's precision and craft and němec's surreal. Perfect as debut, perfect for one who's untainted, for someone who sees only the vox sōlis, Pisarev/Flaubert/young Goethe of filmmaking; it would be שלומית‎ of 20th century. I also wish someone made ephemeral eposes based on Tzara's poems. Éluard's (or my) poems are great too for that, literally me past 20, glad I didn't know him back then, being natural is always the best, you can learn all the forms etc later, but you can't really recreate the ecstatic prisms, the senseless debaucheries, being what others were before, but you.

>Carruth

I tried watching Primer but it was just too boring. Downloading Upstream Color right now.

>>15424

Idk, anon, whatever you say.

>>15424

I don't like Lynch or any of the masterclass.com shit. There is a really old class you can get from Herzog that I found useful in conceptualizing a lot of the process.

Biggest thing I found on set was that our knight/cameraman (I had directing and other duties, would use the camera for any knight or nature scenes that called for it) would understand me well. But try communicating some of these ideas to people who just want to be IN the movie. That is what you are really up against. Conceptually I nailed everything I wanted to in the film minus a few minor caveats that I can execute better in the next fantasy one I do, whenever that is.

Watching and doing were the best teachers for me personally. Lynch and most of the others they tout are hacks, but Herzog you can learn something from even if you don't like his movies. I guess you could say the same about Lynch and all the others, but everything they go over is available in watching their films. If you can't understand it through watching their work and processing it...ur doing it wrong. But like I said, everyone has their own way. It's a learning process and some people learn better one way over another. referring to my previous post, just be careful about whatever you read/watch without being on that set because (myself included) many directors/cinematographers/actors/etc leave out crucial details or intentionally obfuscate things to make it seem more mystical than it was or due to legality.

>>15413

Never said mimicking was fine :)

Either way, anyone here or looking into the craft on this level is certainly capable, which is hopeful for quality films in the future coming out of this part of the net.

We hit 4K unique streams in less than a month, which is pretty good. somebody compared it to "willow" with val kilmer, while someone else called it possibly one of the worst films they have ever seen hehe.

>>15463

>"willow" with val kilmer

>possibly one of the worst films

That's an explosive statement

>>15464

Yeah, a lot of normies went in expecting GOT or LoTR, and criticized (rightfully at times) the production value. We're featured along with the rest of B-movies on Amazon though so maybe they're blind? People will give a 5 star or a 1 star, that's it lol. Either way, lots of people are watching it and the ratio of negative reviews to those watching it completely through is pretty insane. if all they wanted was production value I could easily have done that with another 4k. good to know for fellow anons and myself in the future. funnily, amazon told me they could care less about reviews; as long as people are watching it on a regular basis, "then you did something right".