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Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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Ask questions that don't belong anywhere else but, well, don't deserve their own thread. Hopefully someone can help.
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No.243870
What do you use for inspiration when making a character, or do you have examples of what has inspired you to make a character in the past?
I'm finding myself in the rut where I need something "new" and struggling to get the creative juices flowing.
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No.243963
>>243870
I start by asking myself "what kind of stories do I want to play?"
once I know the kind of stories I want, I pick a few kinks that I want to do with that story then create a character that can best fit these kinds of stories.
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No.243985
>>243870
Do something you absolutely hate for a bit. I've been doing guroshit and it makes my stomach turn but I've learned a lot and regained my love for some of the most basic bitch tier scenes.
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No.244033
>>243870
What I'd like is a list of questions to ask myself about the character, so I'm forced to think of every important trait and different aspect in order to answer them. I haven't made the list though. It would be a mix of personality, appearance, backstory and sexual questions. Maybe some for different kinds of scenes for the future too. "What scenes would you like to play or story would you like to tell?" but broken down to be more specific, so that it can get me thinking.
What I do at the moment is think of sexy scenarios I want to play and make a character for them, but that leaves the characters flat until I just force personality into them by play.
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No.245120
What do you judge other people for? Ancillary stuff, not the core interests stuff.
eg, eg, I'm not interested in femdom, so I avoid people who want that, but I don't *judge* for that. Whereas people who *only* play doms or subs, or *only* play females or males or (especially) shemale, I judge the fuck out out of them. Even if I might play with them or it doesn't necessarily affect potential viability.
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No.245122
>>245120
How do you even find that out? Do you ask?
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No.245125
>>245122
Just look at their lists.
Though I have one sterling individual try to hit me up for esex, then bitch about how pink profiles have all the power, and then refuse to make a pink (or any other) profiles despite claiming it's the main reason he has nothing.
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No.245129
8chan, or probably any chan, might be the wrong place to ask for advice on not sounding like I'm being dick but, how do I talk to somebody about their blatant misuse of the word "would" without seeming like a dick?
When my character walks into a room I shouldn't be hearing that they *would* see another doing whatever it is they're doing in the room. It's not conditional, unless my character is suddenly struck blind they *do* see them there.
Not "the room *would* be sound proof". The room is soundproof or the room was soundproof depending on the tense being used.
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No.245131
>>245125
>Just look at their lists.
Their lists? Lists of what? Characters? Kinks? How do you determine whether they're someone who 'only' plays doms/subs/pinks/blues/whatever based on that information? Most people don't even list their alts on their profile. Then there are people who list alts but keep their males/females separate (Like that whole Blacked fiasco where he linked one of his pink alts on a blue).
How do you determine this without asking them outright?
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No.245132
>>245120
At first glance to a profile, I can't judge much beyond if they have incredibly bad art or incredibly bad writing. I usually wait until I've played with someone to really judge them.
>>245129
I've heard this called "wouldposting." It drives me nuts so I just ask people to avoid the conditional tense and pick either past or present (I'm fine with either and if it keeps people from wouldposting I'll let them pick). At one point I encountered it so much that I put a no for that kind of conditional writing on my character page.
If people are unable to write without wouldposting, I don't play with them.
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No.245133
>>245120
Why the fuck do you care if they only play what they like?
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No.245134
>>245131
>look at profile
>check sex
>check "if "always sub" or "always dom"
>repeat for each profile on list
I don't see why this is difficult.
>>245133
This I understand- but I didn't say they were reasonable judges, just. Judges. What do you judge people on whether or not it's reasonable?
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No.245135
>>245134
Oh no no, you silly little retard. We're not talking about 'only dom' characters. Clearly the OP here >>245120 is talking about people who 'only' play doms/subs and 'only' play females or males or shemales and I'm asking how someone is supposed to know that. You can't determine that with a single profile whether someone ONLY plays males/females/shemales, that's absurd logic.
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No.245144
>>245135
?
Yes… clearly I am.
And you can certainly try to draw some conclusions from whether everyone on their list is "only dom" or "only sub".
How is this rocket science to you?
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No.245258
>>245144
Did you not read the rest of the explanation to understand why that's fucking absurd? Most people don't even make character lists, and a character list of 'just' females and 'just' males may just be character segregation.
You have absolutely no reason to believe that someone who has a list of 'only dom' characters has never played a sub.
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No.247223
So, what's the "approved" method to discourage short-post types from pinging you while you're looking for RPs?
I've lurked long enough to know that the community seems to look down their nose at anyone who puts things in either their profile/custom kinks, or their adverts, saying they only RP with people able to do long, detailed posts, or that they don't want to be contacted by anyone who does short posts lacking in detail. It's apparently seen as pretentious, and advised that you'll lose good RPers who'll see you as a pompous shitter for doing stuff like that.
Trouble is, I get a lot of short-posters since I stopped doing that. So is there a better way to discourage short-posters from contacting you?
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No.247309
>>247223
Either seek people who have similar writing styles as yours on your own, or put a sample post in your profile, or just dump 3k characters on them and soak in your righteous boner as they awkwardly apoplogize for not being able to keep up. I've never had this problem though, do you do niche kinks?
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No.247521
>>247309
Yup, indeed, when I'm looking for RPs, I am typically looking for niche things.
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No.247542
Thoughts on first person writing?
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No.247548
>>247542
Unfairly stigmatized. I've encountered just as many shitters using third. If you advertise that you prefer first it's going to cut down on people approaching you though.
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No.247551
>>247542
Feels a little too much like cybersex to me (and probably to the majority of people), but it doesn't make you automatically bad just like using third person doesn't make you automatically good.
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No.248315
Great resources for basic photoshop skills (cropping out a person from an image, stylish texts and outlines, etc.)? Better if they're specifically focused on some of the most commonly used stuff on inlines. I'm a complete newbie to photoshop, and I spent like an hour or two just trying to crop out a rounded frame and making the corners transparent.
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No.248383
What do you call it when discussing the details and events of a scene with your partner is actually the role playing? For instance, you establish the characters involved, location, and what happenes between them. "Well, we already know what happens, so there's no surprise for either of us. Let's just move on."
Also, what do you call role playing that's just taking turns writing sections of a story?
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No.248462
>>248383
The first one I call autism and the second one is just collaborative writing/storytelling
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No.248584
How do you go about diceplay if you're not into one-sided or GM/DM stuff and have never touched tabletop anything with a ten foot pole? I've had some ideas floating around for a canon whose entire character is that they're a superstitious hardcore gambler but the actual implementation of dice eludes me.
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No.248670
>>248315
Photoshop tutorials are massively popular across the internet to teach you how to use every photoshop tool. Just google things like "photoshop cut out photo" or "photoshop make cool text" and follow instructions.
But more than that, because you are a photoshop newbie, you need to just play around with the program to learn it. Just try all the different tools to see what you can do with them and learn what the settings do. It will help you a LOT to just mess around for a while.
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No.248674
>>247542
It catches a lot of shit because a lot of cybersex turds use it. But it's not really awful.
First person has some limitations that mean it won't quite work with every character and story. It requires you to write from your character's perspective, which can complicate things if your character has a bizarre perception of themself or the world. Writing an ugly character who thinks they are hot shit will not work well in first person, for example.
I usually avoid first person because I want the third-person narrative power to contradict what my characters think about themselves and about the world, since my characters are often wrong or have odd opinions. Writing in third person means I can write both about what they think and how things actually are.
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No.248737
>>248584
You choose a dice based on the number of the sides on it. Most dice are square and have six sides. Then you either:
>put a dice game on your profile where you roll to find out the outcome
or
>both you and your partner roll a dice, whoever goes highest gets on top or whatever
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No.248988
Does dick size matter much to people? I'm not interested in cartoonish/absurdly over the top scenes (which is why I want to make my always-dom 8 inches) but the vast majority of dom profiles I've seen set it to around 12 or so.
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No.249012
>>248988
Numbers are just numbers rooted more in one-upping than actual thought. You might lose a few zealous size queens by keeping it semi-realistic but in my experience most people really don't care - they pay more attention to how you actually use it in play. Lo and behold, you can play stomach bulging, cervical touching/penetration, and all that other fun semi-realistic stuff whether you're 12 or 8 inches. People into cartoonish hyper will usually use way bigger numbers.
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No.249048
>>247542
It's always got a cybery feeling to it. I hate first person literature but I'll do first person for erp that is ultimately basically glorified cybering.
>>248988
Dick and tit size is inflated in ERP almost all the time, I don't see much reason to get bent out of shape about it (not that you are, just some people can be purists about realistic sizes). I think 12 inches should be the typical max or around that point for maximum as it's not really believable but it's still vaguely plausible. Past that and it doesn't get plausible and becomes absurd/hyper and cartoony.
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No.249525
>>245120
>Whereas people who *only* play doms or subs, or *only* play females or males
W-what's wrong with these?!
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No.249700
How do I write decent kinks? I keep trying my best to make them interesting but they always just end up sounding like a robot
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No.249711
>>249700
Define the kink (if you must), then write about how how it relates to your character and what the person looking at your profile should expect if they want to do the kink with you.
Some examples I'm just making up:
>Cuddling - Emily sleeps best with her body pressed up against someone else. Even though she's shorter than most people she loves being the 'big spoon' and holding her partners tight all night long.
>Inexperienced Partners - James loves to introduce partners to sex positions they've never even heard of and push the limits of their stamina. He tends to treat partners like they're students, and even naked and sweating he's a surprisingly patient teacher.
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No.256474
Help with sexual tension?
What are good ways to show it in interactions without simply lip-biting or straight up saying it in the characters' thoughts?
How do you 'build it up' without going through a ton of nonsexual RP?
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No.257246
>>256474
>What are good ways to show it in interactions without simply lip-biting or straight up saying it in the characters' thoughts?
Flirt back at the other character rather than just reacting to the other character flirting.
>How do you 'build it up' without going through a ton of nonsexual RP?
You don't.
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No.258308
Do you have your interests 100% positively with no exceptions set in stone, or do you wing it sometimes/all of the time?
I'm talking about themes and preferences, or even stylistic choices - do you scroll through ads, see something that generally goes against your character and shoehorn them in for the sake of a good time, assuming all goes well?
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No.258406
>do you scroll through ads
I don't know why I even bother leaving ads on, in years of being on F-List I've never answered one. Or perhaps I do, because some of them are so awful they're hilarious.
I just search for potential partners and adjust my approach accordingly. They're generally receptive so I just stick to what works for me. I'm pretty autistic about what I want though, so I don't wander very far outside my comfort zone.
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No.258419
>>258308
I never go totally against character, but I do like trying new things that I've never done before. I like new stories and situations.
I very rarely answer ads but boy howdy do I love to leave them on and read the bad ones.
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No.258502
So I have two characters which I'm currently testing out on to see if they stay on my roster or not. I want to ask for any tips in regards to their personalitys as they are fun personalitys, but they are ones I haven't done much with.
The first character is Ankha from Animal Crossing, and the personality I'm depicting her with is someone who is snobby, rude, and never satisfied with anything. She is always discussing drama, spreading gossip around, or acting as some kind of bully. She has expensive taste and loves to flaunt anything pricey she has to others.
The second character is Miu Iruma from Danganronpa. I've had more experience with this character, but I don't think I execute her personality that well. She is a paper tiger, but I've played her mostly without considering the 'paper' part of her personality when I'm domming with her. She is an aggressive pervert who constantly makes lewd references to herself, and isn't afraid to boast about her being a genius or the fact her tits are really big. When she is put into a corner though she can either double down on this assertive personality or totally wimp out and become a stuttering mess who almost gets off at the insults and mild levels of aggression thrown at her.
And another question for Miu, if I'm doing a scene which focuses on more dominating stuff. Is it best to be lax on the more submissive part of her personality in order to keep the flow right for the scene I'm playing her in?
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No.258793
>>258502
I have a pretty strong feeling most people on F-List will get put out if you switch between dom and sub too much. Only a Dananronpa purist would be bothered by you dropping that part of her personality, so it's your call really. I wrote a fanfic featuring her a while back and I made sure to have her simultaneously tripping over her own words and grossing people out with off-colour comments. She's the kind of girl who would almost let slip she's a virgin then turn it into boasting about how she's totally had tons of partners.
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No.258849
>>258793
I was thinking about making her be 'taken aback' by some comments that are made by her, but "snap back" into her more dominant personality after the banter passes over. (Sort of like what you see in the trials). I would say I was hoping to maybe use the paper tiger personality for a scene focused around a mid way role reversal, which feels like something Miu would partake in.
I'm not so much a purist, but I do like doing the characters justice when I make their profiles and play them out. Although it only really matters when I do more romance based DR stuff (like doing a scene with Kaede and Shuichi, things need to be at least close to canon for those scenes that rely on me liking how the ship was portrayed in canon.)
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No.258908
>>258849
There's no chance of you posting the Miu on here, right?
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No.259184
>>258849
>romance based
One thing to take into consideration for that is that Miu is really fuckin' lonely, extremely so as evidenced by how hard she clings onto shuichi.
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No.259513
Somewhat related to an earlier topic, what are people's opinions on having different dick shapes?
No, I don't just mean "hur hur I'm gonna put a horsecock on this otherwise normal guy." I'm talking about making things more interesting by changing up the usual human cock. Adding knobs, barbs, shit like that.
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No.259541
>>259513
In my experience, nearly everything can be accepted with the right amount of charisma backing it.
If you're at all unsure about your unusual dick concept, write down a description of it, sleep on itor jerk off for the tried and true post-orgasm genius, and make a decision with a clear head.
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No.259554
>>259541
Unfortunately, I think I'm still a little lacking in the charisma department, but that is some good advice. And how could I forget the foolproof clarity nut?
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No.260188
Is there a way to make a microphilia-focused (i.e regular-sized person with a smaller one) profile without making it overtly autistic, or is the kink so far gone in public image that it's impossible? The discussion in the snuff threads and certain doujins have rekindled my interest but my only exposure to it on F-List is 3 inch tall furries with no character traits beyond "3 inches tall," "anthropomorphic," and (usually) "male". Doesn't help I'd be preferably be gunning for yaoi.
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No.260221
>>260188
It's gonna be really tough, but you may need to rely on some visual flair through an inline and images to hook someone. It's a dumb solution, but it's a working solution.
Once you've got that, you need to have some depth to your shrinking, setup up an actual reason, a series of events if you will, past "OwO im reel small nao" and, while it's good to show enthusiasm with a potential partner, keep a cool head and have ideas ready to help their character get introduced into it - the all-of-a-sudden bits are so overdone that I'd only expect the other person to suggest it if they're braindead and horny.
I wish you luck anon, but holy hell your dick springs to a tough one.
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No.260410
>>260221
At least there's some inkling of hope - I guess it'll be an interesting inline design challenge. My saving grace is that I'm not all that into shrinking/growth except as a means to an end so I'd probably make a character that's already small–an accurately scaled nezumimimi or a fairy or something to that effect. I guess I'll have to figure it out on my own, but I do appreciate the advice! Even if I alienate people on both sides it can't possibly be worse than my hard vore phase.
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No.260555
>>260188
Link the profile you make, or give me a picture of the kind of character you make. I may be interested in doing stuff with them.
I've made shrunken characters or small characters before. My main character used to shapeshift her size between micro and normal, and I used to have a Slime girl that could divide herself into a dozen micro slimes. Not the same as a micro, but they were big things for the character. I figure just make a character that just happens to be tiny, or make it a theme of their character.
Whats your angle right now?
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No.260556
>>258908
I just currently have the name claim, however the profile will probably be about the same size as Kaede and Chikai. I did previously make a Miu profile, but I never really "developed her" in the way I've been doing my characters now. The page is blank as of posting this, but I intend on adding more to it later. Currently the plan is to do a lot of invention stuff.
>>259184
Thats actually really cute and I'll need to consider doing stuff like that. Its also good to see that Miu can in fact hold her ground a little bit when called out.
https://www.f-list.net/c/girl%20genius%20inventor/
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No.260581
>>260555
I’m leaning really heavily toward a male, gay (or bi-heavy male pref) but not effeminate fairy. I’ve grown a little attached to the guy with morpho wings so if I can’t find anything else I might go with a regal, stuffy, royal military type. Looks down on non-fae despite being in the closest proximity to them on territory patrols, eloquent but subject to breaking form, excessively prideful and obsessed with honor to the point of being unable to deny a challenge no matter how defaming, so intensely familiar with the closet (species, orientation, or both) and having to keep it under control due to his position that it’s a matter of “when” rather than “if” regarding his slipping off into human settlement for some dick (serviced with the usual bodyjobs, docking, etc.). Would probably end up filling out the gallery with heavily edited solo Inasa art.
That being said, the list of animal-based stuff goes on for ages. Most appealing is a Pygmy Octopus subspecies of scylla (MGE type where it’s just a lower body of tentacles on a human torso, or something like Fukami where the tentacles come out around the waist and there’s still legs) because of how great mini tentacle sounding sounds.
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No.260889
Alright, here's a question that's been resurfacing in my mind every other month.
Say you had an idea that involved two very close characters; say, a pair of siblings, or two partners in crime. However, you don't necessarily want to play them both together at all times, and it's possible that they're both a different gender?
Which, in your guys' opinion, is the better option? Making two separate profiles for each character, or one kind-of hub profile for them both?
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No.260892
>>260889
That's a tough one, but I have a third option - one profile for playing both at once and a profile for playing each of them separately.
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No.261144
>>260889
Three profiles. One for both (yellow name), one for just the boy, one for just the girl. Each profile links to the others.
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No.261325
>>260892
>>261144
Yeah, that sounds like a smarter idea. I'll keep it in mind whenever I get around to making them which hopefully is soon.
By the way, by "yellow", you do mean the none gender right? I only ask because I've mainly been sticking to 3.0 and it changes some of the name colors on it.
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No.261698
>>261325
yup, that was what I meant!
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No.262608
I want to make my first modern day male profile in over a year. Where should I look for image references? I'm not one of those fags who keeps folders of porn and links them throughout ads and profiles. I role play because I like to write. The text turns me on more than any picture could, and I'm often irritated by players who waste time finding references. That said, I understand images are an unwritten necessity for a serious profile. I want to play a handsome young white man, and while I'd prefer drawn references, the Japs are shit at drawing manly men most of the time.
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No.262627
>>262608
Do you have a gimmick beyond "handsome young white modern man" yet? Anime art or not, you're going to have deeper problems with just that. I'd recommend /tg/ booru but as expected it's kinda fantasy-geared.
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No.262945
>>262627
No, I don't have a gimmick other than being a competent writer. The guy is a photographer turned pornographer and sex idol. My plan is to offer him at several points in his life: teenager, college student, young professional, and father. He has a huge penis and he's good looking. He's a film buff and an arrogant creative who laments the trashiness of mainstream porn. He thinks pornography should be a part of filmmaking, rather than its own separate industry. He wants to see mainstream actors and actresses having real graphic sex on camera. He's polyamorous, bicurious, and genuinely talented. The themes of a given role play depend on what point in his timeline the story takes place.
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No.262958
>>262945
>I don't have a gimmick other than being a competent writer.
That can only get you so far since even purple struggle to attract attention when they know how to write. Get used to approaching people and have decent eye-candy as well as decent kinks - partners are a dime a dozen and while charisma can get your foot in the door you need the entire package.
As with others you're gonna want to dress up your profile, give a tiny little inline for each stage/age your character can be played during with a bit of a summary for each. Presentation will be everything if you want people to approach you or at least accept your approach.
>polyamorous
Try not to push that too hard, there's a fine line to walk before people think you're into cuckolding or voyeurism and want to be lazy.
>bicurious
Expect a lot of guys, or at least expect that to be potential waiting to be tapped into.
>genuinely talented
I don't think people will care.
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No.262959
>>262945
Including some sort of section with logs to show off is the best way to get across you're a good writer. If you just try and mention it then you come across as obnoxious.
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No.262961
>>262958
When I play females I always encounter straight-only males, which bores me, and a lot of poly females only want faceless mobs of muscled men to gang rape them, but will pursue emotional interactions with other females and femboys. I figure there might only be a handful of players who would enjoy what I have to offer without requiring compromise on my part. After focusing on pink profiles for the past two years, my current goal is to make the male profile I've always wanted to find.
The advice you provide are things I've already thought about. The big issue is finding photographs or artwork for reference, which I don't have much experience with.
When I mention that my character is "genuinely talented" I suppose that's a given for any character as their creator imagines them. I see your point there.
>>262959
I don't have any logs I could show off, but I do believe I can write a good deal of stuff. Not just descriptive paragraphs, but an actual short story. I don't brag about how good I am at writing in my profiles, anyway. I just imply that I have high standards.
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No.262968
>>262945
My main purpose in asking if you had a gimmick (or, I suppose more accurately, premise/concept) for the character was to see if it'd help me direct you toward one source or another, but I guess with a modern setting it wouldn't make much of a difference, but I digress. I can't help with art very well because anime stuff suits my needs, but if you don't mind photography references (particularly using models/celebrities) I'd recommend one of the several faceclaim directories floating around tumblr. There's a masterlist…
http://beeprps.tumblr.com/post/162188522735/
…But you can find just as many by just googling "faceclaim directory." Fair warning that angeldustmt's is broken on my machine.
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No.264457
What are your guys' opinion on disfigured characters?
Especially this guy, cause it's the only consistent/good-looking stuff I could find.
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No.264466
>>264457
I'd say it's good when the plot-to-smut ratio leans more into the former; roleplay with actual depth that happens to have eroticism involved rather than full-on typefucking - that's just where it's just totally out of place as a character trait.
I have the same thoughts with disfigured females, don't get me wrong.
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No.264479
>>264457
He looks pretty nice.
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No.264573
>>264466
Lucky for me I'm really into story-driven stuff, then. And I'll keep that other bit in mind for later.
>>264479
Sure does! Just have to get over my standards for art-stealing, and he'll make a nice character.
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No.264630
>>264457
He's cute! If I had kinks matching up with a character with his art I would definitely approach.
I love playing scarred characters and occasionally disabled characters. I love the story options it gives.
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No.264709
>Want to make/improve a character
>Suitable art is exceedingly rare, non-erotic or just anime shit
FMA for me.. life is suffering, and all this just for a racist butch dyke of an old timey cop
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No.264910
>>264630
>I love playing scarred characters and occasionally disabled characters. I love the story options it gives.
A guy after my own heart. I'll get around to him sometime over the weekend, and even if he doesn't line up totally with you, feel free to send a note, anyway. I'm sure we can work something out.
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No.267987
When you guys write out your profile descriptions, what's the best thing to focus on? I keep finding that it's one of my weakest points, and it's making a lot of my better thought-out characters come off as real crappy.
Worse still, there's a character I really wanna finish working on right now, but I'm in a bit of a creative rut, so I don't want to screw it up.
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No.267995
>>267987
It's usually best to focus on how they're going to interact with other characters so that people have hooks for approaching before focusing on backstory. It's less tacky to weave it into your general profile description than having scene ideas be totally segmented off into their own collapsible, but either way works. A little backstory is okay (especially if how they came to be what/how/who they are is relevant to play) but don't overdo it and make your profile a veritable novel in 8 collapsible-separated parts. If you really want to make your character that "complex" then keep a separate sheet/word document/Pastebin/whatever for your own reference.
More generally, stay away from including things that won't be relevant to roleplay, because it's just (often boring) added bloat that nobody's going to want to read. For example… it's great that your character wields a sword that crackles with the electricity of the seven storm gods! But if you're not into electrocution, weaponplay, or anything else where a lightning sword would be applicable then it's kinda stupid to write a whole paragraph dedicated to it. On the other hand, it might be good to include limited details about a fertility deity's ability to make anything potentially pregnant or something to that effect.
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No.269124
Asking in the right thread this time because I’m blind and retarded: is it (for lack of better term) cringeworthy to use a song name for a character name? I wouldn’t use lyrics or call attention to it, but Googling makes it pretty obvious.
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No.269181
>>269124
Only if that profile is for chatting in rooms or shit posting. As I see it, anything that isn't just a name or nickname is a red flag.
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No.269185
What's the best place for running an editor quest? /aco/?
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No.269190
>>269181
Understandable, but the only reason I'm considering using a song name at all is because the character in question is (or at least was) a moderately popular canon character. There's all kinds of aliases, but every one is taken and I feel like [Adjective/Kink] [Name] and underscores/dashes are just as tacky if not more.
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No.270392
How do you do dick measurements? What's diameter? How do I release myself from numerically retarded hell? I know numbers are insanely bloated on F-List and 9 times out of 10 it'll end up big enough to cause stomach bulging/cervical penetration/whatever other contrivances the scene demands whether I put down 5 inches or 15, but putting nothing or some cheeky phrase that amounts to "big enough ;)" feels wrong.
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No.270420
>>270392
>How do I release myself from numerically retarded hell?
Don't use numbers.
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No.271022
>>270392
5 is only really going to bulge on somebody tiny. 7 will get a small bump to show on a regular sized woman. 10 is going to start bumping cervix.
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No.271660
>>271022
Irrelevant. Don't use numbers. Never use numbers. If they ask you how big your character's dick is, you say "use your imagination".
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No.271702
>>269124
I don't think it's cringe, so long as the icon and song lyrics makes it blatantly clear whom the character is the first moment someone sees it. Now if it's something super obscure that someone would only find if they watched a 2000 views video on youtube, that's another thing.
I've seen characters with phrases as their names, not even those were cringe to me.
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No.271906
>>271660
Use adjectives instead of numbers. For example if I describe a female character as having a generous bosom, or perky petite breasts, a mental image forms pretty quickly.
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No.273173
Didn't we have a thread for photo ref help?
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No.273176
Does 3.0 has skins yet? I want to use it but it's too dark for me.
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No.273180
>>270392
I always do 8 length, 2 diameter. I feel like those are big but realistic proportions.
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No.274427
Reposting because I am an abject failure and asked in the older thread : there any good sites specifically for lewd tabletop?
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No.274458
>>269185
Please elaborate on what an "Editor Quest" is.
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No.274459
>>269190
Don't play canons, anon. That's an even bigger red flag.
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No.274460
Is it selfish to demand certain kinks in every one of my role plays? Like, I'm pretty sure you can have interesting characters and an engrossing narrative despite the size of their genitals or their hip-to-waist ratio. However, because I demand abject smut it prevents me from interacting with pinks who refuse unrealistic proportions and only play chicks with flat chests. I've never been one for blatantly realistic scenarios or characters with believable traits and faults.
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No.274473
>>274460
It's not selfish, you don't have to do anything you don't want to do.
You just have to understand that if you only want things in a specific way, you are probably not often going to get what you want because fewer people will be interested in that.
Being picky is not a bad thing in ERP so long as you accept the repercussions.
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No.274506
So… What the fuck is there anything to do on this board? The only thing I see going on is a dumb shitpost threads and the only decent looking ERP being run is the tower thing. Where is more stuff like it?
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No.274507
>>274506
It's dead. Our BO refused to have volunteers while working 25 hours a day 8 days a week, so we were easily overwhelmed by shitposters and shitters who are more into F-list and half-assed cybering.
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No.274516
>>274507
You can thank the janitors he tried to bring on last time. They were total fucking idiots so he presumably decided not to do it again.
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No.274519
>>274516
Right, the attention whores.
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No.274528
>>274507
>>274516
>>274519
So if I wanted some quality rp around here (with a side of lewd), I should've found this place years ago. Fucking great.
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No.274529
>>274528
Unfortunately. While making your own thread is an option, there's no chance for quality control or preventing derailment.
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No.274530
>>274529
Oh please. We had a perfectly fine roleplay thread going when the big "fix" came around and people just gave up posting in it.
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No.274533
>>274528
You'll have to go to f-list, this place is just an accessory to there now.
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No.274689
I have a health condition that affects my memory/concentration so I'm forgetful as fuck. Sometimes I might forget things I previously RPed with someone… or to log into chats regularly… or people's names.
What's an acceptable way of saying "my memory a shit because my health a shit"? Or is it tacky no matter what? Wouldn't add tl;dr shit with details in my profile but I don't mind giving deets to people nosy enough to ask.
I don't want people to think I'm flaking/ghosting on them when I'm just dealing with my brain channeling its inner senior citizen. I also don't want people to think I'm trying to get disabled brownie points or pity/attention.
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No.274690
>>274689
It's best to be brief and say you have a poor memory, and only share that it's a condition if they press.
That really sucks anon but the silver lining is that it must be fantastic to have multiple first times.
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No.274700
>>274689
"Hey, I'm really enjoying playing with you so I want to give you fair warning: I have a shitty memory and concentration for complicated medical reasons. I promise I'll do my best, but please bear with me if I need to ask questions multiple times or just generally come across as absent-minded."
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No.274702
Is it weird if I'm open to being friends OOC with other people who are open to it? Or just being chatty?
I'm not looking for America's Next Best Friendship on flist but I wouldn't mind talking about last night's episode of Popular TV Show or asking if they've had any luck getting any ass for their newest OC yet. If somebody wants to, I mean, I wouldn't force the issue.
Is it also weird if I'm cool with the occasional overly silly RP?
Like overusing goofy euphemisms like trouser snake (dick) and over-the-shoulder boulder-holder (bra), canon puns similar to Pokemon puns ("He put on his CHARM AND ER pants came right off") either IC or OOC, overusing bad purple prose terms like orbs or oculars (eyes), pretending to type like we're a bunch of horny 13 year olds who don't know shit about human anatomy, using hentai lines to make each other laugh, things like that.
Shit, I'm almost tempted to pick up a Pokemon character or two just so I can make pokepuns IC…
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No.274704
>>274702
Does it make you happy anon? If yes, keep doing it, fuck what others think about it. Be honest to yourself and find people who mesh with that instead of trying to appeal to those who hate you
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No.274880
>>274702
You sound delightful, it'd be a better hobby with more folks like yourself.
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No.277312
Does anyone have that picture that was posted here a few months back? It was some knight or monster with several red eyes. I'm pretty sure it was posted in a bitching or shitposting thread. I really liked it, but I don't have it anymore, so I'm asking here.
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No.277314
>>274702
blocks your friendship
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No.277316
what happened to the cyclical shitposting thread?
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No.277317
>>277316
baron got rid of it because it was nothing but drama and nameposting
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No.277350
I'm half-tempted to make a hell hound, but would there even be a point to it? Seems like there's a over-saturation of them already.
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No.277355
>>277350
The point would be to make it because you want to. You're doing what you want because it's what gets you off, so who cares about "over-saturation"?
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No.277363
Maybe this is a bit off-topic for the board, but what is the general consensus on /pretend/ing around here?
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No.277365
>>274702
It's better to have fun than not have fun, and it's usually easier to have fun when you're not treating people like disposable tissues and free-use fucksleeves or sex idol trophies. While it doesn't carry the gravitas of meatspace dating and intercourse, showing respect and being respected in a sex-based creative hobby can be somewhat daunting in its own way.
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No.277366
>>277363
You mean 'pretending' to be a girl in an RP, or pretending to be a girl OOC? Guys playing female characters is not only acceptable but it is crucial for the community. Pretending OOC? Not a good thing, no.
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No.277371
>>277355
I get what you're saying, I'm mostly just worried about people seeing another hellhound and passing me up, and not getting any play as a result.
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No.277373
>>277371
My whole philosophy is that being wholly original is not going to attract a lot of people. What you want is something that people will actually desire. I'm not sure if a Hellhound is that something but I do know regular dogs have gotten me plenty of partners. Will people pass you up if they see too many of you? Perhaps a few of them will, but in my experience the people who bitch about "Oh look another <insert thing here>" aren't that fun anyway. They're just angry people looking for excuses to shit on others.
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No.277385
Sorry, not an erp question but an F-List question!
Is there a minimum size on inline images? I'm trying to use one that's 316x100 but it's automatically resizing it up to 125 pixels. It's annoying and ugly and the eicon feature only goes up to 64x64, so I couldn't use that instead.
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No.277386
>>277385
Not really sure if there is a minimum, but if it keeps resizing it, you could use photoshop/gimp/whatever to add some empty transparent space. Would probably prevent the image from looking ugly.
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No.277387
>>277386
You're a genius, thank you anon!
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No.277402
>>277385
can we see the image anony? :3>>277385
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No.277408
I've been ERPing for about a year. In that time I've found I can't stand one-liners or semi-paragraph play, and also that chat is stressful and way too dependent on how quick the other person (or you) finish. What should I do on F-list (or in general, anywhere) if I prefer long term, 2 to 5 para (i.e max ~1k words a post) roleplaying? Possibly with multiple days between posts.
It's kinda inconvenient to have a set roster of characters, it's always made more sense to me to have different characters for every roleplay if they're long term - it also obviously depends on just what the theme is. Story and character development are important to me - it feels so artificial to just jump right into the sex. In other RPs I've had 20 or 30 posts each side before the characters even mention anything sexual. Isn't the whole point of RPing to give you a more in-depth and satisfying erotic experience over just pulling up a doujin and fapping from page 2 onwards? This is especially true for incest shit where you want to get a feel for the relationship between the characters in the first place.
I've been ERPing on SoFurry for a while on the forums, but partners are generally disappearing and there are very few literate posters left, and the ones who are left only seem to do themes I'm not really into (magic/medieval/whatever fantasy). Most people, obviously, are only willing to play furry characters. I'm yet to hear my approach is boring from someone I've ERP'd with, though I understand this isn't the most common way to enjoy ERP.
So do I make an F-list account and create a new character every time I want to RP? Do I just make one character page that represents me and list the sort of kinks I'm into or willing to play? Do people immediately just pass over things like that, or would I have a chance? And where does one find people willing to do long-term RP over notes/e-mail/some forum or another?
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No.277420
>>277408
You should do noteplay on f-list, so you and your partner have time to write long posts and have appropriate time to build up to it. I'm in a multipara RP right now where our characters haven't even fucked yet because we've been focusing on the story. Noteplayers are less common, but they do exist. The story driven looking for RP room and the para/multipara chat are good starts for looking for people.
I recommend a few different characters for different kinds of stories that you want to play out and giving them comprehensive kinks for what you want to play. The kinks on a character page relate to the kinks that you the player have, not necessarily the kinks that a a character has.
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No.277457
>>277420
Thanks man, I'll take a look.
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No.277458
When creating some kind of autistic GM/DM profile, is it better to bluntly explain any optional 'game mechanics' to the people looking at the profile or keeping in universe and let people play around for themselves?
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No.277558
I've been away from ERP for the last few years. The last time I was active, I had a lot of success with third-person semi-para to para roleplay on F-List, I had a whole ton of characters based off drawn artwork I'd find on Gelbooru or DeviantArt or Tumblr (back when it had adult content), and things were cool and good. I ultimately got burned out and later on got into a relationship, but now my partner is like, go do ERP again, it sounds hot!
Finally got back into it, and something seems to have changed. I'm either not as good at writing profiles anymore, or the type of play that I did back in the day isn't that popular anymore. All of the trends of the last few years have been completely lost on me because I just haven't been around.
I want to adapt to what's currently popular, and I want to learn it because I'm not picky at all and I'm willing to just re-learn from scratch. A few questions, if anyone can answer them:
Is F-List still the premier typefuck hotspot, or has anything else popped up in the meantime?
What's the current preferred way to typefuck? Like, are more people into first-person now, or is third-person still the preferred style? Are shorter posts now the length everyone uses?
I've been seeing people using social media to roleplay on, like making character accounts on Twitter or Facebook, is that a new thing? That wasn't around back in the day. Has anyone here had success with that?
What's the current trend with profile formatting, and does anyone have good links on how to do it right? I used to just have a few images, an avatar, and an inline over a paragraph of description, with a few columns of custom kinks, all of them the same length (like four favorite, four yes, four maybe, four no).
Any other tips on what's all the rage right now? I just want to adapt and be successful instead of pretending it's still 2015 typefucking.
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No.277559
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No.277561
>>277558
>now my partner is like, go do ERP again, it sounds hot!
This is a happy, healthy relationship, and I genuinely wish you the best there. Unfortunately, not much help for you on the front you're on, never used F-List at all so can't speak on it's norms, and trying to get back into ERP here on the board myself.
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No.277570
>>277558
Is this you, Lucette?
>Is F-List still the premier typefuck hotspot, or has anything else popped up in the meantime?
Still your best shot. If you're into canon vanilla typesex with normies you can try shamchat
>What's the current preferred way to typefuck? Like, are more people into first-person now, or is third-person still the preferred style? Are shorter posts now the length everyone uses?
3rd-person is still majority, but recently I've been seeing some people with 2nd-person listed as preferred – still a minority among minorities though, like first person. Some ultradom bitchbreakers do one sided worship play where they don't even reply but that's a meme.
>I've been seeing people using social media to roleplay on, like making character accounts on Twitter or Facebook, is that a new thing? That wasn't around back in the day. Has anyone here had success with that?
I tried. He population is mostly resourceless normies and other weirdos who don't know/like/got banned from f-list. 2/10 not recommended.
>What's the current trend with profile formatting, and does anyone have good links on how to do it right? I used to just have a few images, an avatar, and an inline over a paragraph of description, with a few columns of custom kinks, all of them the same length (like four favorite, four yes, four maybe, four no).
>equal length kink columns
good man. A lot of people let inlines do the talking now and I have the impression profiles are shorter than ever. That's good if you're into sex driven stuff and a pain in the ass otherwise
>Any other tips on what's all the rage right now?
Canons from <recent anime>, bbc nignogs (don't put nigger in your name though, f-list mods will ban you lol) and dykes still going. Recently I've seen a lot of people putting up ads soliciting shota/loli shit but that might just be observation bias.
good luck and have fun
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No.277574
>>277570
>don't put nigger in your name though, f-list mods will ban you lol
I'm still pissed you can have "Faggot Kiddy Fucker" but "Nigga" is what gets people banned.
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No.277575
>>277558
F-list has a very solid place in the mainstream so quality is going to be across the board.
Just make sure to seek out partners rather than sitting around and you'll be golden.
Although, there is a much higher preference for visual aid these days so don't expect stories and borrowed art to do you many favors - especially when dealing with "Art Owners".
>>277574
It's not even just the names with that, pedophiles are all over the goddamn place on F-list. It's no wonder Bad Dragon refused to ban them in exchange for a subscription program, they would have no way of clearing them all out, not even on their staff or in their own business.
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No.277597
>>277575
The the problem with the kinks is that it wasn't just ageplay. It was a bunch of other kinks like undead and diapers that had to get banned with more extreme ones so f-list could get a subscription feature.
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No.277636
Are there any good RP sites that allow taboo subjects such as guro, lolicon, incest, beastiality, etc?
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No.277637
>>277636
The one we're posting on right now
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No.277727
Which one of us is the autist? Both?
[01:38] notanon: Hello.
[01:38] anon: Hello!
[01:38] notanon: HELLO!!!
[01:39] anon: How can I help you?
[01:39] notanon: Well, I was wondering if you wanted to rp.
[01:40] anon: Assuming we can work out something interesting, sure! I must warn you, my character will have a micropenis and that's non-negotiable.
[01:42] anon: Looking through your kinks I must say I don't really enjoy extreme pain/torture/permanent damage. Is that a deal-breaker?
[01:43] notanon: Nah, it's fine.
[01:43] notanon: I was picturing her as more of a bully.
[01:43] anon: That's fine, then. What sort of setting were you looking for? Your character sounds like more of a medieval fantasy type.
[01:44] notanon: In this case? School?
[01:44] anon: So a highschool settting? I've not got a lot of experience with that but it could be fun.
[01:46] notanon: Let's just say it's "school"
[01:46] notanon: I prefer no underaged characters.
[01:46] notanon: But we can assume everything else is the same.
[01:47] anon: OK, and what is the relationship between our characters? Do you have any sort of outline in what you'd be interested in doing in the RP? Any kinks you want to focus on?
[01:48] notanon: I like to just kick it off and see where it goes.
[01:49] anon: OK, not really used to stuff that freeform but it's always fun to try new things! Do you want to start us off?
[01:52] *notanon trips you in the hall and offers you a hand up. "Hey there anon. Long time no see."
[01:54] *anon glares up at the girl. "Do I know you?" he says, taking her hand after a moment.
[01:56] notanon: Yeeeah…I don't know if we really have chemistry.
[01:56] anon: Well considering the absolute zero effort you've put into this, yeah I'd say so.
[01:57] notanon: Hey, preparation isn't the only thing that's important.
[01:57] notanon: Reading the room and thinking on your feet and gathering context clues are required too.
[01:57] notanon: Or else you're just planning and planning and never playing.
[01:58] notanon: WHO SAYS "LONG TIME NO SEE" TO SOMEONE THEY'VE NEVER MET!?
[01:58] anon: I was trying to. You haven't given your character a name, or any traits other than "Bully", and the only action you've taken was to trip him.
[01:58] anon: Also, your character remembering mine and mine not remembering yours isn't outlandish at all.
[01:59] anon: Especially in a school setting, if they'd known each other a few years prior they could have changed appearance significantly.
[01:59] [color=red]Error: notanon does not wish to receive messages from you.[/color]
I'm always trying to improve myself when it comes to roleplaying, and I don't see myself as very good, but this really confused me.
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No.277729
>>277727
I'd certainly say both parties are autistic, but you both have varying levels of autism going on here. It's a rollercoaster of mental disabilities with the two of you swapping highs and lows.
Though, honestly, I would've dipped the moment notanon went "HELLO!!!" like some spastic retard hanging out of the mental ward window.
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No.277731
>>277727
Both autistic but I got personally triggered when anon went "considering the absolute zero effort you've put into this" when all anon has done is ask questions and the other person is creating/leading the entire scenario. It's not an award winning scenario but it's something. And it's definitely odd for someone to not know who a bully is in a school setting if they've met one another. Is it possible? Sure. I can see their reasoning, though. But any decent player who likes things 'freeform' will be able to work around it. "Of course you know me, pencil dick!" etc.
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No.277733
>>277731
I simply did that to get her to give a name.
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No.277734
>>277727
I have to say, Notanon is the more autistic one here. Giving up on after the very first response then says look for context and yells about "Long time no see"… well that implies it's been a long time since the two last met. Perhaps long enough for the other to have forgotten about the other or enough time for one to look quite different. And then there are so many ways the "Do I know you?" could be worked around and yet couldn't even bother to try? And then blocking anon (which I find asshole-ish enough without a good reason) without even hearing his explanation to try and work things out?
Yeah, definitely Notanon is the more autistic one for sure.
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No.277736
>>277727
Wow, that's just shit all around.
Learn to say no to people, friend.
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No.277737
>>277734
I agree. Notanon has a slight edge on the autism thanks to saying they want to freeform but gets pissy when things don't go their way. Ironically anon would seem like a good partner for them since they come off as a flake that just goes with anything.
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No.277776
What's a good way to roleplay as a machine? Not a factory robot or anything, but a char like a Geth or Baymax. I've heard it described as being similar to playing an autistic char but that sounds too weird to do.
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No.277777
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No.277782
How do people order the kinks in their profiles to make them more aesthetically pleasing? I'm seen a couple of profiles now that use the same unicode characters for several kinks, but they're put together how you'd want them to be rather than how you'd expect. Things like this https://www.f-list.net/c/kalari%20idoro/ I've tried copy/pasting the kinks for but it always comes out as a jumbled mess
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No.277784
Is it better to make a character with a diverse set of kinks or a specific amount of kinks? So far, I have only made characters with diverse set of kinks,
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No.277785
>>277782
Right click the custom kinks, click add this, then copy paste the kink textbox to
http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Unicode/whatisit.html
To find out which exact unicode they're using to do their kink-sorting autism.
Actually going to the add this custom kink pop-up box is necessary, because sometimes the unicode they're using will not be able to get copied otherwise. You can figure the rest of it out on your own.
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No.277849
Why do you think people still attempt to do public roleplay despite all of the downsides? Is it simply a kink of theirs or is it calculated? Is it better than approaching profile after profile? Surely there's a reason.
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No.277851
>>277849
I have three guesses. Here they go from most plausible to most out-there.
>0
They just want to show off.
>1
They don't see the downsides because they don't have the required self-awareness. Despite having a niche hobby, these people are normies at heart and will never have the hindsight to look back and think "wow that kind of sucks"
>2.
There are actually a bunch of rooms where public play is not only worthwhile, it's also engaging and enjoyable due to a generally higher writing quality level of the people inside and a lot of people who go these rooms end up rebuffed and take their shitty /me's to other places, which is how we come in contact with them.
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No.277855
>>277849
Public roleplay as in on normalfag social media sites like Facebook and Twitter, or as in playing on the board here? Because if you mean the latter, I'm not seeing any downsides.
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No.277856
>>277855
As in anywhere you can do so publicly. Here, f-chat, other forums, second life, probably others I can't think of. One of the downsides is you can get chucklefucks doing their best to interrupt/stop a scene rather than build on it. You can probably ignore that safely, however. What's worse than that is a well-intentioned but woefully inadequate party trying to join in and having to rebuff them. Third is trying to keep something going with a lot of general shitposting/noise around it. Fourth is that it's a bit limiting. You want to be inclusive so a setting can't be too technical. It's why so, so much roleplay tends to take place in taverns, bars, schools or just 'modern' settings to make it easy to jump in to.
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No.277860
>>277856
>One of the downsides is you can get chucklefucks doing their best to interrupt/stop a scene rather than build on it. You can probably ignore that safely, however.
That is exactly what we did everytime Fai tried to derail the Orgy, Fapbait, or game threads.
>What's worse than that is a well-intentioned but woefully inadequate party trying to join in and having to rebuff them
That has rarely been a problem around here, actually, even when things were active.
>Third is trying to keep something going with a lot of general shitposting/noise around it
Same with this one. It just has never been a real problem.
>Fourth is that it's a bit limiting. You want to be inclusive so a setting can't be too technical. It's why so, so much roleplay tends to take place in taverns, bars, schools or just 'modern' settings to make it easy to jump in to.
For more general settings where you want to welcome multiple players, sure, but you could easily create as detailed a world as you want in any given thread. Hell, you could even develop the world further as you go along, like Ero-Empire used to do.
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No.277862
Are there any girls on this board or it's all a sausage fest? I realize there are no women in the internet but I doubt it'd be a pleasure to play with a potential sleazy neckbeard with sleazy writing on the other side. I've done some romance roleplay with actual women in the past and I can claim without a doubt they have a different approach and writing style, like, not immediately sexualizing the whole thing and playing it slow; if we're playing pretend we can go all the way and put in some effort instead of making a wankfest like thirsty virgins.
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No.277863
on f-list is there a way to hide my characters from being displayed on 'Friends Browsing the Site'?, I want to be stealthy as possible from everyone and if it means to use an third-party client I'm all ears.
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No.277864
>>277862
Shut the fuck up, I play better girls than 90% of the women who roleplay and I do exactly what you prescribe. It's an approach to writing, not something clearly divided across gender lines.
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No.277866
>>277863
Turn off bookmarks, don't accept Friend requests. Alternatively, create a second account with bookmarks turned off.
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No.277867
>>277862
>like, not immediately sexualizing the whole thing and playing it slow
You've never played with a girl who actually wants to fuck you, then.
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No.277868
>>277860
You know I was just trying to make a general 'public rp' complaint but it seems you want to just talk about /erp/, so fine, I'll shit on this place exclusively.
>That is exactly what we did everytime Fai tried to derail the Orgy, Fapbait, or game threads.
They derailed themselves well enough all on their own what with the JOIfags and discord hookups driving everything away until they're dead.
>That has rarely been a problem around here, actually, even when things were active.
That's a really funny idea to have considering how many threads have died due to disinterest. The orgy/school/fapbait thread was filled with people just never replying again because clearly they just weren't that interested in what was being offered. Go look at the dead fapbait and orgy threads and you'll see over half the threads are people just chatting because they can't find any suitable partners and the rest doesn't find any conclusion because people stop replying.
>Same with this one. It just has never been a real problem.
Are you out of your fucking mind with this one? Baron LITERALLY deleted the shitposting thread because it was a problem. Too many people interested in arguing or drama or just acting like retards. Eventually it becomes the only real activity because it's easier than roleplaying.
>For more general settings where you want to welcome multiple players, sure, but you could easily create as detailed a world as you want in any given thread
Ero Empire and the Tower games have both suffered from it. People see that an in-depth detailed game is in progress and they don't want to join in because it would take too much investment to figure out how they're going to jump in. Notice that ero empire died die to a lack of players and the Towers have to constantly start new threads not because the old ones are full but because they can't handle people leaving because they don't have enough who want to jump in to keep things going.
I mean for fuck's sakes man there's 2 people playing with each other on this board. As the discord userlist showed there was at least ~40 people who hung out here on the regular. How can you look at that ratio and go "This is fine"?
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No.277869
>>277862
Pigeonholing won’t get you anywhere with identifying people, it’ll just make you look like an ass. You don’t refuse to consume porn directed/drawn/filmed by men as long as it’s well-made, do you? Apply the same disconnect between “creator” and “creation” to RP. If you can’t, this isn’t the hobby for you.
t. fujoshi that “sexualizes everything,” only using ERP and fanfiction for one-shot quickies because slow-burn is usually boring
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No.277870
>>277864
I'm not sure I believe you, most men playing as chicks (at least those I had the displeasure of running into) were either queers trying to lure men or played lesbians.
>>277867
>You've never played with a girl who actually wants to fuck you, then.
It would be difficult because none of those I played with knew me or seen me IRL. I'd actually prefer if they weren't attracted to me OOC because it could devolve into needless drama and cling-fest. I know things should be separated between OOC and IC; what I meant that by my experience women play different. I don't know if better or worse, just different.
>>277869
>You don’t refuse to consume porn directed/drawn/filmed by men as long as it’s well-made, do you?
I abstain from pornography of all kind, believe it or not, no matter who makes it. Even when it comes to erp I practice it in moderation. Besides, it's "erotic" role play, not "pornographic" role play. Eroticism is more than just intercourse.
>Apply the same disconnect between “creator” and “creation” to RP.
I do, see above. OOC doesn't equal IC. It gets more complicated when things get lewd, though.
>because slow-burn is usually boring
I beg to fucking differ. You're a maniac addicted to instant gratification and dopamine rush. No wonder you're devolving into more and more degenerate stuff and you find non-sexual roleplay boring.
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No.277871
>>277870
>coming to /erp/ to tell everyone how wholesome you are by doing exclusively slow burn romance play
The women you know are all men pretending because they know you'll lose interest if you find out the truth.
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No.277872
>>277870
Did you actually mean to just ask "are there any girls here" or were you just looking for an excuse to talk about yourself?
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No.277873
>>277870
I won’t deny it or call your taste invalid, but… I think I misinterpreted your purpose in asking if there are any women on the board. My point—not all females write the same or seek the same thing from ERP—still stands. I’m living proof. I just ask that you consider the possibility of your preferences influencing the type of roleplayers you attract regardless of gender.
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No.277874
>>277871
> to tell everyone how wholesome you are
And by this you told everyone how insecure you are. Don't measure other people by your own standards.
>>277872
> looking for an excuse to talk about yourself?
>answering questions is looking for an excuse
How am I supposed to communicate then? I'm speaking about my experience, not about my underwear size.
>>277873
>I just ask that you consider the possibility of your preferences influencing the type of roleplayers you attract regardless of gender.
I guess it's legitimate point.
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No.277875
>>277874
You're wrong if you give a shit about the gender of the people you play with and you've probably already busted a nut to some greasy 30 year old guy's writing already, so why bother?
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No.277879
>>277870
>It would be difficult because none of those I played with knew me or seen me IRL
I mean you likely make such sexless, boring characters that IRL women don't want to really fuck them and you mistake this for being just how women are. Women are kinky as fuck.
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No.277882
>>277879
NAYRT but fucking enlighten us, how do you make a good blue?
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No.277884
>>277882
There is going to be a different answer for nearly everyone. Some people may like 'charming' but it can come off as lame to a lot of others. Some may like unrelenting assertiveness and it can be over-the-top for a lot of others. Even physically it will not be similar tastes across the board. Some like twinks, some like bears, some like fat old men (legit I know this girl who just LOVES fat guys and I can't understand it but it is what it is).
The main issue comes from when someone does nothing at all with their sexuality and acts surprised when they attract people who are as sexless as them. If you're a woman and you want to get fucked because you are the embodiment of Aphrodite herself, where are you going to go? An orc shaman whose profession is hunting down women to force them into orgasms for procurement of ritual ingredients or the elven captain of the guard who likes reading poetry in their off-time?
Women aren't stupid. They're not going to be seeking out raunchy sex with someone who 'abstains from pornography', and that's why the moron has a stilted idea of how women write or what they're looking for. There are loads of slow burn romantics who are men meshed in with the women. There's loads of women who just want to suck a dick and guzzle down jizz like it's their life blood meshed in with the men. Okay maybe not 'loads' but enough that it's not some uncommon circumstance.
If I can go even further on this I haven't noticed much of a common ground between the women I've played with (who I have visually confirmed are women). Some wanted long-term relationships, some were more interested in secondary sexual stimulation like nipple play and thighfucking. One was an absolute champ at riding, another only liked anal, yet another liked playing as a dickgirl and we'd go out and fuck sluts together. Another cared more about power-dynamics than the actual sex, a couple were more interested in the relationship and story writing and likely didn't care much for the sexual aspect (which is why they were kinda bad at it). One of them was SUPER cock-hungry, like they didn't even care if you went down on them because they just loved the dick so much. It takes all sorts. They had different writing styles and vocabulary among them and I am positive I've run in to similar writers along the way who are men.
Hell one of the longest romance/slow burn scenes I've ever had which took literal months ended up being a guy. He wrote convincingly enough.
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No.277900
>>277884
>Women aren't stupid. They're not going to be seeking out raunchy sex with someone who 'abstains from pornography', and that's why the moron has a stilted idea of how women write or what they're looking fo
There's a big problem in your reasoning - if a woman wants cock, she can get it IRL with ease unless she looks like a complete abomination. In comparison, finding someone interesting and developing a romantic interest is much more tricky. Another problem is how casualized sexuality is in our world, that people who do not seek immediate gratification and easy score with whoever comes around is described as "sexless and boring". Most of us play games to have something different than the real world, so some genuine romantic interest might be more interesting and alluring than degenerate sex where anything goes. I have nothing against describing sexual intercourse, but let something lead to it first, for fuck's sake. As time passes I hate this fucking hookup culture more and more, for it assaults me from all directions enabled by retards straight out of "Brave New World".
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No.277904
>>277900
Your views on how actual women live apparently like literal queens who dine and lounge on silver platters and thrones of poor, innocent penises is bleeding into your roleplay and making you a sad, bitter cunt, dude. If women are constantly sourcing cock from some kind of horrible factory farm of men available 24/7 around the clock, why don't you go offer yourself up as a cockseat for their carousel and get sick'd on by a couple doink-hungry bitches yourself? /pol/ is shredding your chances at writing, and even worse, at making any kind of human connection that can pull you out of the incel pipeline. Look at how hateful you're expressing you are already.
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No.277910
>>277900
Like the other Anon said, I’m starting to doubt you’ve ever interacted with a real woman. You recognize that ERP fulfills a fantasy, but you still stalwartly believe that we all fantasize about romance like grandmothers reading harlequin novels to escape the lovelessness of their antiquated marriage. You claim to know what women want, but believe that we can get cock on demand as easily as selecting a vending machine. The latter may be true on F-List due to the hugely gynephilic character pool, but that’s never been the case for me or any of the numerous women I’ve lived with in all-female living spaces between home and college.
However, I digress. I “signed” myself as a fujoshi for a reason. I ERP for the same reason you believe women desire romance: I want to fulfill a fantasy. Maybe it’s one of being a cute bishounen (or bara on occasion) with any number of physically impossible traits, like being a monster boy or having a canine penis. Maybe I feel like playing a girl, I want to play one made up of viscous infectious slime or pieced together from memories of my hot health teacher that made me realize my bisexuality and affinity for demonic possession. Maybe I want to play from the perspective of a character I love but don’t own, or someone built for fatal kinks I couldn’t do with my mortal female body bound by the laws of my country and physics.
There are women that want realistic slow-burn heterosexual romance and are content with no hard kinks! That’s great! More power to them, and to you! But they do not represent all women, just as my love for BL, guro, and the supernatural are far from the standard or even the only other option. That’s what everyone has been trying to tell you. I don’t care if you gloat about romantic superiority or call me a dopamine addict again or whatever. That’s your belief and your taste. I think I missed out on the magical female power to manipulate those out of you. I just want to get across one point: women’s desires are every bit as diverse and on the same vanilla/kink spectrum as men.
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No.277912
>>277900
How did we move from "women definitely write differently from men and I can tell the difference" to this?
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No.277913
>>277904
>/pol/ is shredding your chances at writing
>that can pull you out of the incel pipeline
>incel
point discarded
>Look at how hateful you're expressing you are already.
Look at how lovely the media are expressing themselves already. It's completely okay, no problem there at all. It's men who are evil here, not the women perpetuating the myth that "you can't be a man if you're virgin" or "incel" bullshit you use yourself. I'm sorry I follow such antiquated and "bigoted" values as decency and modesty.
It's a known fact that women are the gatekeepers of sex. As such, they can pick among plenty of suitors, especially given the modern times when sexual frivolity is accepted and sometimes encouraged.
>>277910
>Like the other Anon said, I’m starting to doubt you’ve ever interacted with a real woman
Why? Because I think they have different writing style?
>ou recognize that ERP fulfills a fantasy, but you still stalwartly believe that we all fantasize about romance like grandmothers reading harlequin novels to escape the lovelessness of their antiquated marriage.
… Where did I say that? I said that I enjoy doing that when I engage in erotic roleplaying (for reasons described above), and there were women who did it as well. My opinions are based on my experience, you might have different experiences and different opinions.
> But they do not represent all women,
Again, where did I say that?
>>277912
I don't know, several anons are offended that someone might not be as sexually liberated as them. I started out with a claim you made, then it devolved into how sexless and boring I am and women don't desire it. When I responded with an explanation that for someone who is into sexualized animals or grotesque tentacle monsters, describing a romantic interest between two people might be "boring", and that there are reasons why I find it appealing. Right now I'm losing track of the entire discussion so might as well wrap it up.
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No.277915
>>277913
>I can claim without a doubt they have a different approach and writing style, like, not immediately sexualizing the whole thing and playing it slow
I then claimed you didn't play with women who actually wanted to fuck you. They're likely getting something else out of the equation other than sex because otherwise they'd go for instant gratification as there's no significant downsides to doing so through erotic fantasy. Perhaps it's the journey itself. Perhaps it's a need for a mental connection. Perhaps it's the euphoria of feeling like you're better than the common rabble edging for that quick dopamine hit.
Whatever the case, you can accomplish this just fine with a male writing partner as there's no discernible difference between the two. We may have our preconceptions about "This is how a guy writes/this is how a girl writes" but the reality is that both can be mimicked and overblown to the point of absurdity and the majority of people tend to be in the middle ground. Consider tilde and emoticon abuse. After a while you start to imagine it's a guy behind the screen pretending to be a girl, and yet that's exactly how some girls actually write. It just tends to be a guy pretending to be a girl because this is a very cock-heavy hobby.
>>277913
>It's men who are evil here, not the women perpetuating the myth that "you can't be a man if you're virgin" or "incel" bullshit you use yourself.
If you're saying this with sarcasm then that's very hypocritical considering you started off this whole shitshow demeaning virgins and neckbeards.
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No.277917
>>277915
>that's very hypocritical considering you started off this whole shitshow demeaning virgins and neckbeards.
Sleazy, thirsty neckbeards =/= people who don't have sex for their own reasons. Some memes insist that's one and the same, it's not.
>They're likely getting something else out of the equation other than sex
>need for a mental connection
>Perhaps it's the journey itself
Why not both? My initial post was also about effort and delaying the reward, in this case the pleasure of intercourse. I'm not trying to make a scientific study showing a difference between male and female roleplaying, I just made an offhand comment based on what I've seen. Sometimes it doesn't even devolve into a sexual thing, there's more things to roleplay than this.
>they'd go for instant gratification as there's no significant downsides to doing so through erotic fantasy
The downside is that more "vanilla" things get boring, your mind gets used to the sensation and you reach for more and more extreme things to maintain the stimulation. Addiction to pornography is a real thing.
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No.277920
please go outside i'm begging you
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No.277921
>>277920
>please go outside
Fuck no, this guy is more entertaining than the bitching thread ever was.
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No.277925
>>277917
>Sleazy, thirsty neckbeards =/= people who don't have sex for their own reasons
And yet you complained, "making a wankfest like thirsty virgins". It's over-the-top smut, it must be the work of virgins! Crusty, sleezy neckbeards. No woman could possibly be this sexual, dog-gonnit. Because they can get dick whenever they want and thus they aren't desperate virgins looking to just get off.
>The downside is that more "vanilla" things get boring
Personally I feel sorry for people that this happens to. I'm sure it happens to some, but that's an unfortunate outcome to something that shouldn't be so complex. A lot of people in the hobby become overly dependent on partners or can't find what they are looking for because what makes them happy is so niche that they consider it a miracle to find anyone that can fulfill it. Funnily enough, you display the same frustration I see from people who aren't getting what they want.
>Addiction to pornography is a real thing.
It certainly is. The same way that addiction to a romantic relationship is a real thing. When something you do or something you take is causing you or other people psychological and/or physical harm and yet you keep doing it, then you have an addiction. If your love of playing as a bear-cub taking it in the ass from daddy Thanos is harming you then I encourage you to stop. I've actually told people who just seem to be pissed off all the time that they should take a break. However if they seem to be happy and they're still living their life off the computer then all's good in my books.
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No.277947
>>277921
>this guy
I identify as the Yamato battleship. Check your privilege.
>>277925
>And yet you complained, "making a wankfest like thirsty virgins".
<sarcasm in the internet doesn't exist, I have to take everything personal
>Because they can get dick whenever they want and thus they aren't desperate virgins looking to just get off.
People get angry when I speak about it but no one ever seems to tell me I'm wrong. I didn't say all women are whores. I said that women are and always were gatekeepers of sex and they can pick out a mate easier than men. That's all.
>A lot of people in the hobby become overly dependent on partners or can't find what they are looking for because what makes them happy is so niche that they consider it a miracle to find anyone that can fulfill it.
I was speaking more about people going down the rabbit hole, not about those not finding fulfillment.
>Funnily enough, you display the same frustration I see from people who aren't getting what they want.
I don't display frustration because of what I am and I am not getting, I display frustration on the posters ITT who are dense on purpose.
>The same way that addiction to a romantic relationship is a real thing.
Romantic relationship is something much more rare than sexual pleasure, which is widely available to everyone nowadays, whether you like it or not. Falling in love is definitely a thing and its effects on the human being are similar to getting high, but I wouldn't say you can get addicted to it the same way as porn, sex, or wank.
>However if they seem to be happy and they're still living their life off the computer then all's good in my books.
Things that make us happy aren't always good for us, for many reasons.
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No.277949
please have sex once in your life
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No.277951
I found a character that I really want to play with, but none of my current characters "fit" with that character's themes or setting. Is it creepy to message another player about how much you like their character and that you're making a character so you can play with them?
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No.277952
>>277951
I don't know about creepy, per se, but it may come off as presumptuous if worded that way. But as long as you don't come off as, "I'm making this character for you and you'll have to play with me!" then I don't see much issue. Personally I don't care if someone just wants to provide a kink-list and a reference but some people require a full profile and some will be put off by characters made specifically for them. It's a crapshoot, but I don't see much harm in trying.
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No.277953
>>277947
>I identify as the Yamato battleship
The World War II one, or the space one?
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No.277955
>>277947
>sarcasm in the internet doesn't exist, I have to take everything personal
You're too stubborn to bother talking with anymore.
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No.277956
>>277953
Both. I'm fluid.
>>277955
>You're too stubborn to bother talking with anymore.
I suppose I hit a weak spot. Whatever. Let's keep doing what we're doing. I still don't really see a lot of sense in focusing on sex-through-text (mostly because it's widely available IRL), as opposed to more emotional/spiritual themes (which are a lot rare, all things considering). Intercourse it's just a part of a bigger thing, it's how I'm seeing it.
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No.277969
>>277956
The whole issue is that it's not working for you, and yet you're sticking with this life and mindset that is making you lonely and bitter if your posts are anything to go by. It may not be your intention but bitching about casual sex and having images of incel-compilations paints you in a very poor light. Not to mention the absurdity that began this whole thing of seeking out only real women for romance. C'mon man it's only a few steps shy of being the guy going "A/S/L".
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No.277971
>>248584
Depending on how it is, you can have something like
>Each player rolls, winner does their thing
>Roll, with a certain amount of "difficulty" (roll a 1 or higher for a fairly easy task, roll a 19 if you want to talk a insane person from stabbing you)
>>258502
In Miu's Love Hotel scene, her Fantasy starts with her doing a childhood friend thing, before that melts down into desperation, before she shifts into her ruder sexually agressive personality, probably our of frustration.
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No.277973
>get an urge to fuck a character
>suddenly all of my past urges come back up
>i become incredibly indecisive and unable to choose, and just go to jerking it
How do you niggers decide what to do in a situation like this? I've tried random number generators but I always end up feeling biased, and then I think "alright if I'm biased I'll choose that one" and then think "but what if…?"
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No.277984
>>277969
>C'mon man it's only a few steps shy of being the guy going "A/S/L".
I said repeatedly it's not about trying to get laid, which I have no difficulty with IRL. I suppose I can't explain what's it' about, I'll try to find some Amish girl to exchange love letters with.
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No.277996
What's the general consensus on using art of a canon character for an original character? I feel kind of dirty doing it, but some canon character designs really fit the design for some of my characters.
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No.277997
>>277996
You can always not be a lazy cunt. Just commission art or use something else. No matter how many disclaimers you put on the profile, you're going to get people that compare you to that canon or want you to play that canon.
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No.277998
>>277996
Only trash commissions art so never do that. I would say if the canon is very popular then you may want to avoid using it though. You can surely find some original stuff that would work.
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No.277999
>>277996
If someone has a few braincells to scrape together they'll figure out you're not playing the canon and either be fine with it or fuck off. Unless you're naming the character after the canon it shouldn't matter anyway. If they still insist that you should play the canon, you can kindly tell them to piss off regardless.
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No.278000
>>277996
It's fine, only mega autists will reject you but the less popular and similar to your character the better. You might be compared to the character you're faceclaiming as a jab (I'm guilty of doing that, but I mostly do it just to fluster blues who blindly use art of bishies I recognize–doubly so if he originates from BL) but it's not a huge deal. Gacha canons are best since they have giant casts of shallow, forgettable characters that tend to have a lot of art and cover lots of archetypes.
Commissioning your art should only be used as a last resort for really outlandish characters and you shouldn't be a giant ART OWNER I SPENT MY MONEY ON THIS ART DONUT STEEL cunt about it, either.
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No.278002
>>278000
>Commissioning your art should only be used as a last resort for really outlandish characters and you shouldn't be a giant ART OWNER I SPENT MY MONEY ON THIS ART DONUT STEEL cunt about it, either.
To be fair, they brought it with their own money. I never understood the attitude here when it came to people that owned art.
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No.278003
>>278002
Because these are the same shitters that steal shit only to sperg out when caught.
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No.278004
>>277996
Just keep looking. It's still lazy.
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No.278008
>>277997
>You can always not be a lazy cunt. Just commission art
That sounds like less a matter of sloth and more a matter of a lack of funding, or a language barrier between you and artists.
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No.278009
>>277996
I'd say try to hunt around ArtStation, DeviantArt, or tumblr first, but that's just me being an autist about the quality of the art in question.
You could also ask in the character art thread. There's a lot of posters with big, fat, throbbing art folders ready to cover you in their hot, sticky recommendations.
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No.278014
>>278008
>tfw me
>tfw you're not a NEET and have a good paying job
>tfw you don't steal art because it's a shitty thing to do
>tfw you've gotten pretty good commissions
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No.278015
>>278014
What are some of the better artists you know of that do commissions regularly? I'm not against getting some art and animated stuff done, I've just personally only seen one or two artists I'd willingly pay for their work.
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No.278016
>>278014
>tfw have the money and the means to commission art but still steal it anyway
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No.278017
>>278002
>I never understood the attitude here when it came to people that owned art.
Eicon art claims.
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No.278020
>>277996
There's a lot of art around, how can you not find some less-known Donut Steel to fit your characters? Can you give a little description as to how your characters are different/similar to Canons?
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No.278024
>>278014
>I have money so it's okay to waste it because I really need a good look for my shitty OC!!
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No.278027
>>278014
How is it stealing art? It's not like you're claiming it to be yours.
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No.278028
>>278027
This is the coping logic of idiots who waste hundreds of dollars on art for their 5-year-old OC no one cares about
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No.278031
>>278027
Reposting art is stealing.
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No.278032
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No.278034
>>278032
Stop stealing art
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No.278037
>>278014
>Paying for art
>Not drawing it yourself
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No.278039
On that note, anyone think we could use a Drawing Improvement Club thread for those of us who want to just come up with our own character designs instead of looking up art to work around?
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No.278041
>>278039
>Drawing Improvement Club
I'm gonna be honest with you, anon. I don't think any kind of thread made for improving anything will survive in /erp/. This place now has a reputation for attracting shit-talkers and drama queens. For instance, how long has it been since anyone's posted in the Profile Improvement Thread? How long do writing improvement threads last? Not for even a third of the post cap. I honestly do not believe that a thread like that could thrive unless there's a considerable amount of moderation and a solid set of rules in place to discourage trolls and others who are only interested in showing off and talking down to people (because you can't really prevent it on the internet).
To the effect of that last sentence, I would absolutely be willing to moderate it except that I have a sixty hour work week on average and I simply do not have the time or energy to contribute consistently to it right now. It rather pains me to say because I would love the opportunity to give people the chance to enhance their artistic ability among others. Creative expression is something typically mocked in this day and age even if it's just a hobby ("Why did you draw THAT?" "It looks weird, I don't really like it" "You know why it's called starving artist and not starving engineer right?").
Add to that, a lot of dedicated art communities become infested with people who are really only there to advertise and show off without contributing anything to help improve others (or only doing so in a token manner). You'll see furries do this a lot in art communities, but they're not the only ones. Another lesson from the furry communities is how artists get treated. Shit, wait, you don't even have to look outside this board. Imagine something you've poured your heart into, something you pushed your skills to the limit to make, being called worthless trash six times a day, every day, for months, until people finally forget about it. It's not pleasant. That's not to say artists are blameless either, big names get big heads, another lesson from the furries to take here.
Now that I've said my piece on why the fuck it won't work, ever, I'm gonna shill out some things to prospective artists that might wanna take a crack at actually making their own characters.
https://drawabox.com/
Exercise-based approach to learning to draw. A lot of rote work at first, but a proven method you'll see used in a lot of art courses and professionals. Gets into the fun stuff more quickly, though, but can also throw you into some deeper waters before you're really ready for it, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Widely recommended.
https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign/
Scott Robertson. Industry Professional. If you need to learn to draw from a raw mechanical angle, this is your man. He has two books out, and they're both intensely focused on drawing by construction and measurement. Very good for spatially-focused individuals and hardcore realists, but the fun part of that mostly comes from the process of it. If you're having a hard time with ellipses and perspective, this man is unmatched. Has some overlap with Draw A Box in terms of learning, but stands alone in terms of by-the-numbers designing and drawing techniques.
https://www.youtube.com/user/novacolonyshow/
Trent Kaniuga. Industry Professional. Runs more by "feel" than by mechanical composition. Takes a much more relaxed approach to drawing and provides a lot more industry and work advice than bare-bones instruction, but also provides that on occasion. Has a Gumroad that supposedly has a ton more instructional material, but I haven't sampled it, so you're on your own there.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Sycra/featured
Maybe the most irritating voice on the planet, but his voice is not what he's known for. Largely traditional artist, but exceptional at breaking down some of the hardest parts of anatomy and gestural stuff, which you will need to know for poses.
https://www.youtube.com/user/KienanLafferty/
If you can tolerate him, a fantastic introduction to the tools of Photoshop and drawing digitally. I personally find him annoying, I won't deny that he knows the tools and how to use them well.
There's others, this post is too long already. Good luck.
You'll fail a lot before you succeed, but if you keep at it, you WILL succeed.
t. shitty artist that never finishes anything
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No.278042
>>278041
Great links!
Another reason that a lot of people aren't going to want to post their art here to talk about improvement: I'm a decent artist and as I gradually build a following for my SFW paintings, I don't want to ever risk people identifying me by my style on 8ch.
I'm not perfect and I would enjoy an art thread here for red lining and composition talk and stuff but it's not a risk I want to take here.
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No.278064
>>278041
>You'll fail a lot before you succeed, but if you keep at it, you WILL succeed.
A buddy of mine has been drawing for over 2 decades and been to 2 art schools and she still sucks. The only job she got after she graduated (well, that she told me about) was illustrations for a children's book that never got published. Clearly they must be missing something or there was a foundation that was never laid but they haven't improved at all for the 12 years I've known them.
But onto the topic at hand, they're pretty convincing evidence to me that there are some people who simply won't be good at something even if they try really hard. They're an excellent writer and a stunning vocalist but art/drawing clearly eludes them somehow.
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No.278067
>>278064
Well, if she's going entirely by what the "art schools" taught her she might have to unlearn a lot or something.
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No.278085
>>278064
I am loath to admit it, but >>278067 is right in a lot of ways, if not completely. High art has poisoned art institutions and instruction at higher education. I've had hour-long rants about high art and how it has either become a money laundering schema or an elaborate joke that has gone so far that no one knows what it was.
In the end with art, you get out what you put in. If you keep looking to produce works of a particular quality, you will get that. This isn't to say that you'll be able to draw a straight line if you have Parkinsons or nerve damage in your hands or arm, but if you willing to move yourself toward a goal in art, odds are you'll get there… even if you might end up on a circuitous path on the way.
I'd like to see their work, all the same.
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No.278088
>>278085
>>278067
I had to dig for a while before I found something that probably wouldn't be reverse searchable. Regardless of the cause being improper education or an innate lack of ability the outcome is the same in my books. They've had 22 years to develop and perhaps there's a point where they should admit to themselves that they should move on to greener pastures.
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No.278089
>>278088
That's pretty poor advancement, I'll admit. I dunno, this might be the exception rather than the rule. I've always felt that if fucking Rob Liefeld could learn to draw feet, then anyone could learn to draw, but if it's like this after 22 years, well… there may be something more fundamentally wrong. I don't know what, and I'm not sure why, but here we are.
That said, I'm still a firm believer that (almost) anyone can learn to draw and do it to at least a very competent level, if they're willing to put the work in. I guess I'm a little stupid like that.
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No.278090
>>278089
>I've always felt that if fucking Rob Liefeld could learn to draw feet, then anyone could
Just goes to show how much people can struggle despite being literally surrounded by industry professionals.
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No.278092
>>278088
Yeah, I can see how that looks really underwhelming after two decades of working at it, but it's quite likely she just hit a wall in advancement rather than fundamentally lacking in ability. I mean there's plenty of people who just stop challenging themselves at a point or just don't know how to take another step forward.
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No.278127
Have you ever taken roleplay too seriously? I'll admit that back when I was 16 or so I was really involved in a roleplay community and looking back it kinda scares me how much I relied on it for feeling happy/fulfilled.
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No.278225
If you're playing a magic user, superpowered character, thief, warrior with a lot of skills, etc., is it worth actually listing that character's abilities on the profile? Personally, I like it, but I would like to hear what other people have to say.
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No.278237
>>278127
I fucked around way too much on roleplay-oriented MUDs back in the day, enough to ruin my grades in college. That was an expensive life lesson.
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No.278238
>>278225
It might be different for tabletop profiles, but I only list stuff that's going to be relevant to roleplay, preferably sexually, and maybe a tiny little example of how it might be used. Don't go overboard with backstories and nitpick details. Just like your character's history, if it's not likely to come up and goes beyond basic knowledge, pop it in a reference word document. You'll save yourself and your prospective partners a ton of boring, often powerwanky bloat that's not fun or useful to read.
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No.278240
>>278225
Yeah sure. As long as you're not going to go completely insane and list 10+ things or essentially make your character a God.
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No.278241
>>278225
Best goes something like this
>This character is a skilled [job], specializing in [field]. His favorite thing about [specialty] is [thing about it that will relate to the roleplay].
so you get something like this that gives the reader a good chunk of character information
<Hans is a skilled thief, specializing in long cons. He loves being able to earn the trust of rich women to get to their gold and jewels.
Talking about the way their skills are APPLIED is always better than just talking about what they CAN do.
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No.278248
>>278241
>>278238
I think I'll follow this advice. Thanks.
>>278240
I have actually a character written that way on F-List. The player actually wrote a section mentioning that if you "complain" about their character being overpowered, you're a whiny baby.
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No.278249
>>278248
Seen a character writen that way*.
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No.278258
>>278248
>The player actually wrote a section mentioning that if you "complain" about their character being overpowered, you're a whiny baby.
The ERP fight scene is a funny place.
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No.278268
Is it a red flag when someone approaches me, I can't reply straight away, and they log off literally 3 minutes later?
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No.278279
Does anyone ever feel like throwing an obvious shitter a bone? I've seen https://www.f-list.net/c/Miyata%20Satoshi posting ads on f-list occasionally and I'm semi-tempted to indulge him if only because I can probably play whatever girl characters I want. I know I'll probably regret it because I'm doing most of the work here, but still.
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No.278283
>>278279
>Vampiress
Is it that hard to say vampire?
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No.278340
So I was banned from f-list for seven days because I said my character doesn't fuck with trannies. Okay, I get it that such language constitutes as hate speech. I often forget what specific lines can be crossed, and which ones can't. However, I find myself disgusted by many things said and done in f-chat by other users. Mostly links to furry porn and shota/loli porn. That stuff really disturbs me, and I hate how normalized that shit is. At the same time many users call each other "gay" in chats, or say that "x has the big gay", and this is perfectly fine. What are the unwritten rules of f-chat behavior?
Also, would it be possible to create a room that runs on the theme of a 1950's small American town, or even just a diner, that is meant to be historically accurate in terms of demographics? No blacks, no gays, no furries, no pokemans, no Eldritch horrors, no aliens. Just white humans. Do the rules allow something like that? Sex Dungeons and Dragon Dicks can outright forbid male humans, so why can't I ban all the stupid shit I hate?
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No.278341
>>278340
>So I was banned from f-list for seven days because I said my character doesn't fuck with trannies
So do you have any screencaps involving talking to any mods or?
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No.278342
>>278341
No. I never thought to do that, as I don't even know why I'm still on f-list given how much I hate this fucking website. This was my third strike for being disagreeable in the chat. The specific line was "(character name) doesn't fuck with trannies" after an orange character /me posted their character blowing mine. Even when I try to fit in by joining in on the witty banter of various chatrooms I get in trouble. Guess I'm too mean for the hugbox.
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No.278344
>>278340
Get a grip dude. Jesus.
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No.278345
What are people's thoughts on breaking away from the typical backstory format? I've been debating whether I ought to replace my backstory with essentially a scene between my character and a few others discussing their circumstances.
I feel like it will better represent my actual posting style, but it's less explicitly my character's backstory. I don't want to give people the false impression that I play a group of individuals or that mine is a hub profile.
These other characters may or may not show up in the roleplay as friends and peers. It depends on the idea.
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No.278346
>>278344
Okay, you think I'm crazy obsessed. Probably am. I really have nothing else going on in my life, so why don't you articulate my problems and express your concerns?
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No.278348
>>278341
>being disagreeable in the chat.
>in the chat
Here's your problem. Nobody reasonable likes trannies, they ruin everything they visit, because they always demand preferential treatment and insult anyone that disagrees. OOC talking is pointless on such websites, you'll only get angry.
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No.278353
>>278348
This is facts, talking in literally any room is a huge fucking mistake. They are 100% garbage without fail.
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No.278355
>>278353
Speaking of shitty rooms, perhaps the worst I've ever seen is Shortstacks. I don't know what it is about short people but even in roleplay they are just angry turds looking to start an argument over everything. How in the fuck do you get a Napoleon complex in RP?
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No.278356
>>278348
>tfw you play characters that hate trannies and haven't gotten in trouble yet
But I heard that the mods have turbo autism when it comes to anyone doing anything sorta right leaning. I.e hating trannies, playing nazis, etc.
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No.278357
>>278356
Who would ever want to be associated with 'the right' when people equate it to hate groups?
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No.278361
>>278356
As a person who used to play a Nazi, I've never had trouble with mods thanks to specifically avoiding antisemitism. Hating capitalism and communism is perfectly fine, apparently. The issue comes when your heavily armed fascist takes offense to the existence of animal/human hybrids for being obvious corruptions of nature, and reacting appropriately. Or say you're in a fantasy tavern, and a fucking kobold walks in like they're not an inherently evil creature that should killed on sight. Public play has always sucked because I just don't want to get along with the hugbox. Conflict is innate to human nature and f-list users are painfully averse to any kind of negativity. It's not a place for Big Boys with thick skin and aggressive personalities.
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No.278362
>>278357
Being a Right Winger, or a conservative, primarily means you're in favor of small government and free trade. All the other shit started with Ronald Reagan and his Moral Majority.
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No.278363
>>278361
>Public play has always sucked because I just don't want to get along with the hugbox.
Perhaps the best example is in a room like Fantasy where there are literal white knights hanging around waiting to defend thy lady's honor.
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No.278364
>>278363
Oh, god. I have a very strong love/hate relationship with that room. Some really good players show up in there with some interesting characters from time to time. I just hate all the other faggots that fuck it up. Most of the time it's just shit. I've tried to play along in the past and make friends, but the place is ran by a clique of irritatingly boring people that always ridiculed and hated my characters. This same clique extends to the other vaguely fantasy themed rooms, so it's virtually the same room split in three different locations.
To remedy my frustrations I just put the players I hate most on ignore. Then you get a new person in the room who starts talking to them, and I'm only getting one side of a conversation. It makes me feel like an asshole.
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No.278366
>bring friend along into room full of clique fags
>make them all look bad with good roleplay when they were all being one line cuddles n wuvs just before
>we spend the entire time fucking each other and ignoring everyone else
>watch the clique slowly seethe
>we both get off on it
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No.278367
>>278366
>Someone "/me flops in" while people are playing
>Make some ~1.5k character post
>Someone: /me gets crushed under wall of text
>Conversation begins about how para-roleplay is bad
>Someone: "I may as well read a book"
Y'know there's another rant I want to go on.Yesterday I was reading a bunch of people in a rather large room bitch about how they barely get any roleplay going on. Like, people don't even approach them or something. Hell one of them was the moderator of the room. I can believe that nobody approaches them but shouldn't there be some point where they figure out that what they're doing isn't working? But no, they stay on the same character they've been running for literally 5-7 years and wonder why things haven't been working out. Either that or they're just resigned to their lot in life.
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No.278368
>>278367
>people whining about actual roleplay on a roleplay site
This triggers my autism really bad man.
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No.278373
>>278367
Those are exactly the sorts of replies I hope for, especially if they're part of the rooms clique that never shuts up. The flipside is I hope a bunch of people are jerking off to me getting fucked in public.
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No.278381
>>278367
>Someone: "I may as well read a book"
Your response should be "you may as well have sex irl, faggot". I hate these people.
>>278357
>Who would ever want to be associated with 'the right' when people equate it to hate groups?
Things "people" believe in doesn't make this world view illegitimate and wrong. I associate with whoever I wish, I just don't admit it when the potential enemy is in a position of power and I can't defend myself (ie. can ban me for that).
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No.278386
> Search for character to play with and find one with a lot of mutual kinks
> Send note mentioning that I want to play with them. I make sure to include a story idea related to our characters in some way. (For example, their character could be a warrior and my character could be a warrior. The story pitch could be our two characters meeting on the field of battle.)
> Also ask what they think about the story and if they would want to play. Maybe even highlight related kinks.
> They never respond.
Am I approaching people the right way?
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No.278390
>>278386
If you are blue, no response sounds about right.
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No.278391
>>278386
Notes are hit or miss. A lot of people, myself included, just ignore them.
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No.278398
>>278391
>>278390
Dang, I really liked the backstory for some of those characters too.
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No.278400
I've encountered many prospective partners who believed that image sharing is an integral part of role playing. I guess I'm an elitest prick, because I see image references as a goddamn crutch. I'm here to fucking write, and I get off to good writing. I can't find pictures that match what a given character looks like, so I don't use them. I don't find pictures first and make characters around them because that's antithetical to how I come up with ideas. I'm a very visual person, I went to art school, and I'm good at drawing, but none of my erotic art can compare to something made by a professional eroge artist or some tumblr faggot. Really, my style just doesn't lend itself to making people aroused. So, I use image references because they're a fucking requirement these days, but only on my f-list profile and avatar. When someone starts talking about finding images for characters it pisses me off. "That takes time away from role playing," I say, "I'd rather read a well written descriptive paragraph", and then they run off because I don't want to see samples of their porn collection, nor do I have my own to share.
The fuck is this bullshit?
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No.278402
>>278400
I've run into a few like that as well and I agree for the most part. It doesn't really bother me per se but that's because they don't start asking me to do it, otherwise I'd tell them to fuck off.
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No.278411
>>278391
Tbh I feel like this attitude has become a lot more common recently. By recently I guess I mean in the last year or two.
For multi-para roleplay though, nothing beats notes. The formatting is so much better than in F-chat, so much more readable.
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No.278422
>>278386
I get pretty picky about the tone of a note. If they don't know how to exude a sense of excitement and eroticism and it just reads like some dull request then I usually ignore it. Maybe you should take a closer look at your tone and touch it up, to come off as more appealing for the next person.
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No.278423
>>278400
I'm a little confused, so I apologize. Do you mean they insist on sharing images in the middle of a scene? Are you talking about using images for a profile?
If the latter, I suggest for everyone that you don't create a character unless you already have art. Shape your idea around what is already available, rather than spending all this time with a character and then flounder looking for images to fit. I realize you said that isn't how you work, but it isn't that difficult to make a small change that will benefit you greatly in the long run.
You can be as stubborn and elitist as you like, but you're only hurting yourself.
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No.278425
>>278423
I think they use it on their profile but they're talking about the people who want to keep passing porn between posts.
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No.278432
>>278422
I'll do that next time. Thanks for tip, pally.
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No.278434
>>278400
>Really, my style …
Found the issue with your art, at least.
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No.278436
>>278434
I don't use my own art anymore. I can find suitable character art. I just hate it when a person messages me to compliment the art I put on my profile, and I'm like "okay, but that had fuckall to do with writing or role playing."
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No.278437
>>278425
Bingo. I've had at least a dozen decent writers with matching kinks bail on me because I adamantly stated my disinterest in collecting and sharing porn during role play.
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No.278442
>>278400
Are you the retard who keeps coming around to bitch about not wanting to put images in your profile?
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No.278444
>>278437
I've only run into this a handful of times so I'm curious what you play. What kind of characters are these people usually playing who bail on you, or even bring this up?
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No.278455
>>278444
Lately I've had no character specific profiles. I just use one GM profile and approach whatever interests me. The last successful pink I played was just a generic big titty blonde anime girl fluffed as the ultimate cuckquean for slice-of-life plays. I would say it's pinks and purples that are the most adamant about needing character references, though. I don't RP with furries and other anthros as a general policy.
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No.278476
>>278455
Does your GM profile have a theme going on?
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No.278481
Why is it that like 80% of pinks can 'magically' have a cock, but 99% of shemales will never be willing to get rid of theirs?
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No.278489
>>278476
It's an autistic list of rules and requirements with lengthy paragraphs that elaborate on the how and why of my role plays. There is no theme, nor do I link to other characters. It's hard to prescribe a personality to an omniscient and omnipotent presence that dictates the facts of a given universe. I will say that I specialize in D&D campaigns, but really it's a trap to coerce players into accepting a specific scenario that I myself wish I could play out, so that I may live vicariously through said players. I should probably be more up front about that.
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No.278493
>>278481
Because 80% of pinks are dudes who are fine with adding a cock because they know that dick penetration is easier to roleplay.
But 100% of shemales are dudes who want to roleplay something 'perfect' and you can't be perfect without a dick.
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No.278558
For the last month or so, I've had a hard time trying to roleplay with people and I just can't work out what the problem is. I have a sufficiently developed profile, my writing ability is decent and I always approach in a polite, OOC manner. But either I get no response, or they will completely ghost me after a minute of talking. I think part of the reason is because I'm trying for /ss/ as a shota, and there's a plethora of other shota characters out there. Is this to be expected from time to time, or is this a sign that I'm doing something wrong?
Which leads into my second thing, it's not really a question but it's kinda related to my first point. It's bizarre to me how so many people on the website lack the confidence to tell someone no. I've talked OCC to a few people I regularly roleplay with now, and they're open about hiding on other profiles to avoid being messaged by certain players looking to roleplay. Some even leave the site altogether and migrate to discord because again, they completely lack the ability to turn people down.
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No.278567
>>278558
Yeah /ss/ is a shitshow because there's so many out there and loads of them are shit.
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No.278584
>>278558
It's hardly about confidence. The thing is that some people, myself included, end up learning the hard way that saying 'Sorry, but I'm not interested" is, more often than not, not worth the effort.
Out of every 10 shitty approaches, only one will take rejection like a normal person and you will both go on your merry ways. The other 9 will bitch, moan, try to emotionally manipulate you, insult you, or attempt to convince you to change your mind.
>Lmao I didn't want to play with you anyway
>God you're such a bitch
>Sigh… Rejected again… Will anyone ever want to fuck me?
>Figures you wouldn't wanna play with that shitty profile
>I can change my character!!!
>But why? You have to give me a reason why you don't wanna play.
After a while, you start realizing that it's easier to just close the tab and forget that person ever existed.
I'm not saying you're a bad player, or that you have a bad profile, I'm just trying to explain the rationale for not responding from the point of view of someone who'd rather ignore people they don't want to play with as opposed to just giving a straight No for an answer.
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No.278588
There is no excuse to not rejecting someone with a response when you can instantly block them and close the tab at any moment and talking shit about someone in a public channel is a reportable offense.
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No.278595
>>278588
Anon, did you know you can only ignore a maximum of 300 people? I dunno about the kind of approaches you get, but that list fills up surprisingly fast.
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No.278596
>>278595
I don't have anyone on ignore yet. Am I supposed to feel like I'm missing anything? The people I reject are always polite to me. I play a bicurious female.
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No.278597
>>278588
My excuse is "I don't owe you shit".
Keep crying, bitch.
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No.278598
>>278596
No, you should be glad. You're pretty lucky, anon.
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No.278601
I have a kink question. For a while now I've had an impregnation kink, and never the term breeding as a kink until finding F-List through /erp/. At first I simply thought they meant the same thing, except breeding is a more depraved, animalistic, uncaring form of impregnation. Especially given what I have run across on the site. Even reading the site's description didn't really help much.
Now I've gotten curious and decided to see if I could find an explanation of the difference. What I've found is the impregnation fetish is about the risk of getting pregnant/impregnating someone. Not actually intentionally impregnation them. What? That doesn't sound like what I like. I like the idea of a girl getting pregnant in the most cuddly, caring, gentle, sweet way you can imagine it. I'm pretty vanilla in that way.
So, do I actually have a breeding kink? In my mind, breeding has very undesirable connotations to it though. I'm not into depraved shit like 90% of the site seems to be.
So wondering if anyone can explain the differences to me, or clear up misconceptions I have of the kinks.
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No.278602
>>278601
>Breeding
As long as the goal is a pregnant bottom rather than pleasure, regardless of the intention (estrus, rape, growing a family, etc), it's technically breeding. However, you're right about the connotation; the community WILL look at the default kink by itself and assume you mean the base, bestial kind. A possible Cause to Impregnation's Effect, but not always.
>Impregnation
Umbrella kink that encompasses everything from Christian wedlock missionary to accidental condom breakage or depraved rape. A favorable Effect to Breeding's Cause, but it could be accidental too.
>Misconceptions
Risk of pregnancy is its own default kink, but besides that I guess you've got it as most of the playerbase probably sees it. I'd recommend just making a custom that emphasizes your preference for softness. It's easier and more effective than F-List's weird, clinical, easily misinterpreted dictionary definitions.
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No.278640
I pretty much universally avoid and turn down profiles that are hub/obvious irl self insert/this is idealized me in a setting made out of my kink/I can play anyone you want/etc.
Should I stop being so picky because these are a ton of my approaches
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No.278652
>>278640
I'm being sincere when I ask: how do you determine if a character is a self-insert? I'm only able to tell when it's really obvious, such as a character coming off as wish fulfillment for a player's fetishes. Basically, an all powerful god/goddess.
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No.278653
>>278640
No, if you don’t think you’re going to enjoy RPing with them and value quality over quantity then there’s nothing wrong with turning them down. Some degenerates like me like and get something extra out of dumpster diving, but whether it works for you or not is entirely dependent on your taste. Just accept that you might have to take initiative and seek out/approach people yourself if you plan to uphold those standards and still want to RP.
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No.278659
>>278652
I generally assume someone is a self insert if they're like what you mentioned, or if they use average/normal/etc. as really the only descriptors to their character.
>>278652
Yeah, most of my best RP's are from ones I seek out. I should just be a better bro and go out of my way to poke people I've played with before instead of constantly looking for new characters
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No.278663
>>278652
>average, normal, everyday descriptors
>overused character tropes without actually making them new/interesting (hacker, angel, demon, magical girl, assassin)
>no actual characterization to them, profile is no customs and mostly stats like height, dick size, etc.
>same art as a hundred other profiles
>want kinks that take a lot of work from you and little from them (three person cheating, harem, femdom, snuff, fixation on handjobs and footjobs)
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No.278664
>tfw my soul-stealing Hellspawn from another dimension is a self insert.
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No.278665
>>278664
Changing the aesthetic doesn't change the player.
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No.278666
>tfw I'm not a self insert because my character actually has people who want to fuck them
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No.278667
>>278663
Harem play is extremely daunting for the dominant, though. It is so much easier to play as a group of people than as a single person trying to wrangle them all together and give them some equal attention. Hell it's even more daunting when it's an actual harem and not a single person playing multiple characters because while each of them are writing a couple of paragraphs you're going to be pumping out 4+ just to respond to everything they're doing. I've played multiple characters before and it's difficult to be brief with them.
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No.278672
>>278667
Only time I've played multiple characters is when playing with the identical twins that are perfectly in sync 90% of the time somehow trope. I imagine that's a lot easier for both parties than 2+ plus entirely separate characters.
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No.278674
>>278672
Reminds me of some succubus who split into 2 loli twins (because an adult succubus splitting into 2 bodies means they become lolis, of course) to both suck my balls and lick my ass. Not entirely relevant but it was neat.
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No.278681
>>278667
I always thought the guy fucks one or two girls at a time while the others fuck each other waiting their turn.
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No.278682
>>278640
>>278652
Honestly, these kinds of characters are perfectly fine with me. I have no social life, I live alone, my job makes me suicidal, and I'm an anxiety ridden depressive with ADHD and probably autism. I hate my life and the world I must live in, leaving the persuit of erotic role play as a means of escapism and power fantasy. I don't actually want serious and engaging narratives when I just want to connect with another human being and play pretend that my life isn't a dumpster fire. This means my goals are different from some other people, but I hate how this site just hates and hates and hates on anyone that doesn't write narratively engaging RP's as if the whole world is supposed to consume and judge their chat logs in comparison to a best selling fiction author. I love creative writing, and I know how self inserts are a pratfall in fiction writing, but in this context I just want to get off in a way that let's me feel like the heroic winner I will never be. Playing as a confident, attractive, healthy, well adjusted man with a sex life is alien enough to my own experience to make it sound appealing. But no, if you're not a crippled minority burn victim with bipolar disorder from a troubled home then your character is judged as automatically boring.
I hate this board and all the pointless negativity it spreads. I'm convinced it's bad for my mental health just because my characters and profiles never fit within the narrow and arbitrary standards set by elitist assholes.
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No.278685
>>278682
Sounds more like you hate F-List than this board.
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No.278687
Seriously, is there no way on F-List to copy a list of kinks organized in a Subfetish drop-down thing over to another character, because it doesn't work with the Copy Kinks feature and I wasted a shitload of time organizing them all
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No.278688
>>278682
nice blog post, get a fucking grip instead of whining on imageboards
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No.278689
>>278682
People like you really ruin the hobby.
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No.278692
>>278682
Listen, anon. If what you're doing isn't working, then you either adapt or you die. Reinvent yourself. You can escape into erotic roleplay with a hundred different masks. I can almost guarantee you've never tried, so don't tell me you wouldn't enjoy yourself.
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No.278696
>>278681
Harem play is a bit more greedy, at least for me. Grinding on your thighs, your arms, your feet - sucking your tits, sitting on your face, eating your ass, fingerfucking them, toying with their nipple and a few other things. I like to stack 'em, line 'em up in a row, gather 'em around, guide their heads as their eating each other out, Essentially I like to be involved with nearly anything that goes on during a harem scene. There's definitely not an unlimited number of spots to take up but the most I've done with separate partners is an 8-on-1 and it was manageable. That said, if you somehow manage to have even more on the team then yeah you'll need to portion things out.
But you can totally do it the way you mentioned as well. It's definitely a lot easier. I've done similar but it was more of a sex-party rather than a harem scene but there's nothing saying you couldn't make it so.
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No.278707
I made a self insert/wish fulfillment profile for the first time, and I tried playing with it and well, I kinda realized that the idealized version of myself is more sexually temperate. I couldn't roleplay almost anything sexual with him. I deleted the character, but it made me think a lot about myself and how I really am, and what my desires actually are.
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No.278710
>>278707
Why couldn't you do anything sexual with the character? Why was he so temperate?
What did it make you realize about yourself and your desires?
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No.278715
>>278710
I've been reading a lot of stoic philosophy recently, especially epictetus. I've been applying it to my real life with astounding success, trying my best to emulate the teachings and to be a better person.
Part of the stoicism entails controlling and subordinating one's sexual desire to logic and reason, which is something that I wish to do but have always struggled with. The idealized version of myself would be dogmatic, empathetic, strong and independent, but also be strictly monogamous and have full control of his sexual passions.
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No.278723
>>278715
>>278710
>>278707
>tfw your power-fantasy self-insert characters end up being physically strong, but tired and depressed aging men
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No.278726
>>278707
>the idealized version of myself is more sexually temperate
That could mean a lot of things depending on how bad you are IRL. I worked with a guy for a year who was an absolute horndog. I couldn't even take him anywhere because he spent all his time gawking at any woman that walked by and made comments about how hard he wanted to fuck them. It's like he had NOTHING else to say other than how much he wants to have sex. It must be torture to live like that.
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No.278750
What's a good "threshold" for an amount of matching kinks? Most of another character's favorites? More than half of their favorites and yes? What if you think your character would work really well with their character?
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No.278755
Alright /erp/ I need opinions. What would be better
>a faceclaim of a canon character who acts a lot like said canon character, but with maybe a couple diversions (that are believable of course), but the story is entirely different
>just the goddamn canon character
Assuming the canon character is not that complicated to get, and is semi-obscure/something that doesn't even exist on F-List yet
I don't exactly wanna say who he is yet but he's one smooth and graceful motherfucker, a personality type that's lacking in my palette of characters.
I know the obvious answer is "do whatever the fuck you want" but I have a high tendency of getting ghosted if I try to do any unique spins..
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No.278756
>>278755
You should probably just play the canon chara-
>he's one smooth and graceful motherfucker
>he
Oh it doesn't matter then.
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No.278757
>>278756
For a split second, I forgot that "smooth and graceful males" was completely shit on to death by faggots who didn't even know how to play the role.
Yeah it really doesn't even matter anyway, I thought the guy had some even semi-lewd art but it's all incredibly fucking gay.
it was Phantom R, I recently got Rhythm Thief and really enjoyed it
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No.278761
Have you ever initially liked a character and then grew to despise them the more you saw it being used?
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No.278768
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No.278769
>>278755
>smooth and graceful
If it's a 50 shades of gray, handsome guy in a suit who's rich, just don't even bother. It gets shit on to death by a reason.
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No.278789
So, when people say they're looking for particular canons, why do they seem to struggle so much? Surely even the least likable person who does ERP will have one or two friends who will play a character that they want, no?
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No.278790
>>278789
Personally, I try to stay as detached and "one and done" as possible when it comes to ERP thanks to some otherwise avoidable clinger issues in the past. I'd be really surprised if I were alone in that.
For those who advertise for it in SDLFRP, I imagine F-List's premade character system makes it a little awkward unless you play that particular canon/art/real life faceclaim/body type/etc already or have a hub. Yeah, you CAN play outside of your profile, but most people just want to play the character they signed in on rather than catering to a stranger's desires.
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No.278798
On F-List, is there much roleplay regardless of gender and orientation? For example, let's say I'm playing a straight female, but I want to do a story with another female character where we hunt demons together, without any sex at all. Should I go to another site for this sort of thing?
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No.278799
>>278798
Never seen it occur. Pretty sure most people just wanna get their rocks off is all.
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No.278800
>>278798
>Sexless roleplay and storytelling.
They call that D&D.
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No.278806
>>278798
There are definitely less ERP-focused sites for that, like RPHaven and RPRepository. But if you want a middle-ground where both can fly, Elliquiy fits the bill pretty well.
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No.278807
>>278798
>>278806
That said, F-List does have the Nonsexual Roleplay and Story Driven "kinks".
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No.278810
>>278800
>They call that D&D.
The biggest autist I've ever seen was from a D&D group. Habitual liar (his "job", supposedly, was as an archaelogist and he talked about unearthing Native American artifacts), always wore sweatpants and sandals, chewed with his freaking mouth open and was just a detriment to the fucking team all around. He made a character that was supposed to be super OP… around level 6 when he could actually get the feats he needs. Until then we're stuck with a monk who can't hit the broad side of a barn, has no ranged because he didn't fucking think to get a sling despite DEX being his highest stat, and died before he reached level 4 because he got flanked by 2 bugbears and a fucking 16 AC isn't going to cut it.
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No.278814
>>278810
while he sounds like a dumb niggy, it's not like there aren't a bunch of combo builds that outscale everything else after a certain level. Was this 3rd Edition or 3E derivatives?
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No.278827
>>278810
>numbers numbers numbers
D&D is a nice setting for sexual and nonsexual RP but RPG systems should be rules-lite and narrativist.
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No.278829
>>278827
>should be rules-lite and narrativist.
May as well just share stories around a campfire.
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No.278861
>>278829
What's wrong with campfire erp!
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No.278994
Anyone know a decent place to find ERP for those of us who prefer note/forum style roleplay with posts going back and forth at whatever relaxed pace, either because we have lives or we're just fucking sick of conflicting time zones and the dance of trying to catch people online? (In fact, why not all of the above?)
I suspect F-List is still the best place because it's so huge, but it's depressing when 98% of appealing profiles only want to do chat lewds because "I just can't stay interested in note RP, tee hee."
Alternately is there some well hidden corner of F-List for this kind of RP? The "groups" seem dead for the most part and also still have a lot of people trying to hook up on the chat.
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No.278998
>>278994
I know of a few places. F-List can offer some pretty good people; looking particularly in the "Para/Multi-Para" or Story Driven LFRP chats might be more up your alley. Sex Driven seems predominately driven by dudes that just want to quickly spurt on their keyboards and fuck off.
Never used it myself, but there's also a site called "roleplace". Might be full of shitters, might be good, but it's pure text-based.
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No.279009
>>278829
>>278827
Never had a good experience with narrativist or "storygame" tabletop sessions. Whenever I've seen it it was entirely the work of people who have already decided what the beginning, middle and end of their character's story will be and don't want pesky things such as the GM or other players to intervene.
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No.279011
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No.279020
How do I properly filter out furries?
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No.279025
>>279020
I assume you mean on F-List. If you use the website character search you could put "Human" in the species field. This will exclude anyone who doesn't fill it in (probably the majority) and anyone who puts something cute like "Slut" instead.
If you use the chat search or just click on profiles p. sure you're fucked. Furries will generally not tag themselves as "No furry characters, just humans" for furry pref, obviously, but you'll miss out on all humans willing to suffer the anthro menace (or who again just didn't set it.)
F-List was made by furries for furries, so shockingly enough they have little interest in making this easy for you to do.
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No.279083
Would it be redundant to post a disclaimer saying that your kinks are not mandatory? Should you only do it if you have extreme kinks mixed in with vanilla kinks?
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No.279085
>>279083
Personally I think it will neither hinder nor help all that much so there's not much reason to not include it.
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No.279088
>>279085
This, pretty much. Nobody is going to think less of you for including it, but people who dislike extreme kinks (dependent on the kink) THAT much that they won’t even associate with people who express public interest in it are probably going to turn tail regardless.
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No.279114
Alright /erp/, try to put yourself in the mind of a degenerate man who likes shit like male human x f-fur, and you want to be on the human end. What would you try to do to make your human stand out without being too stand out-ish, because as it happens whenever you try too hard you alienate your crowd anyway?
Bonus points for adults and pics at least, I'm searching through pixiv for young men references but I look at all of them and I think "yeah everyone's gonna say it's generic
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No.279115
>>279114
As always, have a character concept that would easily get you in the pants of your target audience. Is he a lauded “hunter” in a medieval setting renowned for “suppressing” beastmen? An animal control officer in a furry-discriminatory contemporary setting that does as he pleases with his catches? An obedience trainer/vet using sex as a valid means of “instinct control?” A breeder/farmer that cuts costs by using his own semen instead of expensive artificial insemination since anthros can have whatever DNA compatibility is convenient? A zookeeper that specializes in anthros? Something more creative that I can’t think of because I’m lazily spitballing?
The point is, especially if your art half-ass matches, a novel and focused concept works WONDERS because it’s easy to understand what someone wants and how it’s relevant to their character when you do it that way versus “le average bijoenen that somehow stumbles into sex with super hot furry chicks!!!!” If you’re worried about alienating humans, then just make another character geared toward the kind of human girl you want to bone. Good luck. And use the Character Art thread for help finding refs.
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No.279117
>>279115
I've actually managed to find some decent modern male pics finally, but I'll certainly try to drop by the character art thread if I need any help beyond that.
Either way thanks for the tips. I actually already do everything you suggest yet I somehow end up getting ghosted anyway likely because I'm a notefag reaching out to very certain people who fit my picky criteria despite following good approach protocols and everything. Regardless it's reassuring to know that the way I've been doing it all this time certainly ain't wrong.
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No.279130
Is it fine to only use 1 image/reference for a character?
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No.279131
>>279130
Sure, long as it's a decent one and not like this.
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No.279134
>>279131
Thanks for the tip.
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No.279139
>see a character I'm interested in
>wait, she's familiar, lemme check my notes
>sent like just a couple of notes: one a really good intro, one a correction from like last year
>no replies back
Would it be acceptable to send 'em another intro note and pretend I never sent them one before on the same character, since none of my others really fit the tone the page asks for? I legit can't find another profile like this person's but I'm also retarded so.
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No.279149
>>279139
While on one hand that person can just block you if they feel harassed, that's a pretty clear sign of disinterest. It's like writing your phone number on the receipt for the waitress, again, after they didn't call the first time you wrote it. Tactless.
Depending on what it is about the character you're after, you should ask in one of the threads on this board if anyone else is up for playing something similar (especially if it's just a rare canon since we have multiple threads for that.)
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No.279159
Does anyone have the cropped CG cap of Uraraka saying "excuse me mister nigger"?
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No.279161
>>279159
Got the original here
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No.279166
Thoughts on this pic as a reference for some sort of pseudo-Indo-Iranian alien space nomad?
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No.279167
>>279161
Thank you Anon, you’re doing God’s work
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No.279182
>>279166
CGI is always bad, don't use it.
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No.279185
>>279182
You're interpreting 2D > 3D a little loosely, omae
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No.279228
How do I shorten my post times from 20 minutes to 10 minutes? I find it quite a bit harder to put words out when I'm subbing, and there's always a few good minutes wasted just zoning out and trying to figure out the next sentence.
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No.279229
>>279228
I have the same problem, English is not my native language so no matter how good I am at it, I always tend to mull things over and think about it before it comes to me. I bet that the more you practice, the better you'll get in the end. Sometimes it's good to have a dictionary and thesaurus open to avoid repetition and waste less time looking for proper terms.
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No.279231
How bad is it to have only one picture for a smut-oriented profile?
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No.279232
>>279231
More forgiveable if:
1) it's for a heavily themed, high-concept profile, since it will be hard to find stuff that suits it.
2) it's a really good picture
3) the profile description, layout, and kinks are well-made
4) it's another always dom shemale for attention whoring with pinks
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No.279236
>>279231
I will sometimes get an idea for a character, go out and find an artist and just get one image of said character, and work off that image. What I try to do is to make sure the image is just not a faceshot, but rather something that shows what the character is about, be it in a smutty setting or a non smutty. As silly as this sounds, I like seeing what a character looks like dressed before they are undressed as an outfit can tell you a bit about them.
I would use the image space and descriptions (do people read these?) and just use them to fill in gaps. Add in some wardrobe options and crop out faces so people don't mistake the people wearing the clothes for your character. Throw in a few locations the character may be at, and anything else you feel is good info for your character expressed in visual form.
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No.279238
>>279185
Do you have any examples of 3D art used in a profile that doesn't look like cheap trash?
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No.279239
>>279238
This is like a gay guy asking, "Do you have any examples of a woman that I'd like to fuck?"
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No.279248
>>279236
>Use one image to represent the character.
>Crop out the head/face of other images to show what your character will wear.
How does this work out for you? I normally use a few images to represent my characters, because they tend to be unique in appearance, but I might do that to inflate my number of images.
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No.279262
Is there anywhere for me to brush up on finding sexy terms for parts of the body? I've been watching other people ERP for a while and the way they use 'orb' for say, big boobs or ass is kinda embarrassing to me, and it seems the only used penis nicknames ever are rod, shaft, stick, dick, they all just feel so common.
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No.279268
>>279262
I find it funny calling the penis "bread basket," the vagina a "hot pocket," and both the "hot zones." Have you tried searching up slang for genitalia?
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No.279278
Is it possible to bring too much plot to F-list?
Still working on this guy: https://www.f-list.net/c/castus, but as I look over what I've written, it just seems so…heady.
I mean I am here to fuck, but I'd also love some good adventure.
Anyway.
Should I tone it down?
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No.279279
What's a fun game with good character customization that's also good for ERP? I have a friend of mine and we're looking for options here, and we're not nearly desperate enough to try Minecraft yet. I'd prefer to avoid MMOs because they have literally never been fun and also can't exactly be pirated.
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No.279284
Why are people this autistic?
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No.279287
>>279278
I think the main problem is how you have that information laid out. To be honest it looks like a mess. Too many drop-downs inside of each other, it takes three clicks to get to any text, and literally every line is behind a bullet point.
I'd suggest having a short (but not all the way to tl;dr) character summary visible without having to open anything. There should be some text in every dropdown, and you shouldn't be placing drop downs inside of dropdowns unless you have a lot of subcategories within subcategories adding up. Bullet points are for lists of short items, so just use normal paragraphs for anything else.
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No.279289
>>279278
No that profile's fairly short. Which is good. The issue, like the other guy said, is that the dropdowns are a bit much.
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No.279290
>>279284
I think it's people who somehow don't like when someone asks them "how are you?" are autistic. It's like being polite is now frowned upon.
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No.279291
>>279279
I know you said no MMOs but Black Desert's kind of an exception since you buy it once, no sub fee. It also has a pretty excellent character creator. I don't know how you're sending messages, but you could possibly do Monster Hunter World.
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No.279295
>>279287
>>279289
Thanks.
That look any better?
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No.279296
>>279290
It's when you have 100 people saying the same thing to you that it becomes annoying. No one is offended by your being pleasant or polite, but it does become incredibly tiresome when you have to answer the same question endlessly.
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No.279297
>>279290
It's not the being polite part, but a good amount of people use it as an excuse to talk to you while also wanting you to do the actual work of starting the RP/planning.
>Hi, how are you?
>Good, you?
>Good, thanks.
>silence
Like bitch I'm not gonna pull your fucking teeth about why you messaged me. I know it wasn't just to ask me how I'm doing.
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No.279298
Do you think ERP can function as a surrogate for real sex and intimacy?
Context: I was abused as a kid by my mother, and I think it left me with very little confidence and a lot of anxiety when it comes to speaking with people. I discovered ERP several years ago: I lost my virginity to prostitutes since then, but ERP is far more satisfying and emotionally fulfilling than that. I've never had a gf, but given that I have no confidence or game (despite efforts to build both), this seems the closest thing I have. The closest I ever have felt with someone was when I spent a week doing nothing but sleeping and roleplaying (mostly romance and vanilla stuff), the sense of safety and intimacy I achieve on ERP isn't matched by anything else. I don't think this is healthy, but I don't know what to do. I;m lonely and this is the only crutch that seems to make me feel less lonely and loved.
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No.279299
>>279298
Yes and no. No, I don't think it can surrogate for real sex and intimacy. It can come close, but the physical aspect of it is something that can't be replaced. Look at long distance relationships for example - it's possible to do, but the end goal is almost always to meet up and be together in the end.
I understand where you're coming from, I find myself growing attached to RP partners now and then because they say and do nice things but it's important to realize that there's a line between you and your character. Even if it's a self-insert that you're using, everything is directed at your little sock puppet and the other person's little sock puppet. Once you begin to blur the lines and believe that your partner wants to do anything but typefuck when they haven't said otherwise is when it grows unhealthy. Reliance on them and the romantic/sexual high their roleplay gives is an issue and is probably when you should step back and take a break from ERP. It's not bad to enjoy it, don't think you're in the wrong for that.
If anything, use RP to help you up your game or, hell, even find an SO. There are plenty of people who like a bit of OOC with their IC! Be cautious, of course, as there are going to be people akin to he who shall not be named or catfish to may want to take advantage of you. The people behind this hobby are always a little weird to begin with, but I've also met a lot of really cool people I've become good friends with.
Just take care of yourself at the end of the day, anon.
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No.279300
Have any of you avoided writing with someone because they were open to writing things you weren't?
Like, say someone has everything you want but they happen to love scat, and you don't. Would you still write with them? Even if they promised not to include scat in your RP?
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No.279302
>>279300
If their entire profile is focused around a kink that I don't like, then no I won't play with them. I just assume they're going to lose interest and stop playing. A lot of people have lofty expectations of themselves and I simply don't trust most people when they say they'd be fine not including things. Either they'll try to wedge it in (which has happened to me several times to my dismay) or they'll simply lose interest.
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No.279303
>>279300
Personally, I write with people even if they like something I don't. There is a person that I sometimes roleplay with that's into vore, which I don't care for, but since we share enough mutual kinks, I still play with them. Also, it's just plain wrong for someone to try and make you do something you don't want to do.
It's fine to not want to play with someone if both of you are not into the same stuff. For example, if you love equal relationships and vanilla romance, why play with someone that focuses on extreme BDSM and has a heavy emphasis on dom/sub?
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No.279305
>>279295
Yes, that's a fair bit better, but again I'd say at least the summary should be visible without having to open dropdowns.
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No.279306
>>279291
Ah, BDO doesn't really fulfill any of my criteria, beyond the customization, I guess.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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No.279307
Notes or F-chat? What're the advantages and disadvantages of both?
What should my ad contain? Anyone got good examples?
Also is it wrong to steal people's custom kinks? Do I need to credit them in some way?
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No.279312
Notes
>Respond whenever you want
>Easier to do long-form because of the above
>Easier to keep track of with less effort if you don't use a chat client that auto-saves logs
>More formatting options if that's your thing
<Easy to forget about and accidentally drop if you're not on top of it dependent on your willpower
<Supposedly there's a bug where notes don't get sent, might be a coping mechanism rumor, not sure myself
<Hard to find people to approach if you solely use notes because the search is clogged with inactive/dead profiles
<Tend to die off because it's awkward "poking" someone through notes
F-Chat
>Instant Messaging sense of urgency means quicker response times on average
>Relatively convenient search considering the absolute level of jank involved in this dragon cum-crusted website's spaghetti code
>Next to no reports of messaging errors
>Easier to tell if someone has you blocked so you know not to check and see if your note was eaten
>Almost guaranteed they're at least a little active if they're bothered to be signed into F-Chat and advertising, i.e no decrepit old profiles with online times hidden that haven't been logged into for years on end
>A few choices of client to suit your taste/needs, including standalone and three different iterations of the browser
~Requires you to set aside time to be at your computer for long periods of time
>Easier to find partners for any medium including off-site due to advertisements
<Site's been finnicky with uptime and downtime, especially the chat
<Less formatting options (but really, who cares about formatting?)
<Requires you to catch your partner online, which can be difficult with oddball schedules and people who have a ton of characters
<Instant Messaging and sense of urgency means more pressure to respond quickly
<Possible to do longform, but harder because of the urgency
tl;dr: Depends entirely on your own preferences, really. They both have pros and cons that directly relate to their style and how much time you're willing to put away for ERP at a time.
>What should my ad contain?
At the very bare minimum try to be concise and upfront about your desires. If you don't know exactly what you want, at least toss out your gender/species preferences and maybe a sample kink or two to draw people in. Character content aside, "Bubble-butt femboy looking for fun!" is worse than, say, "Bubble-butt femboy looking for human(oids) for orientation play in a high fantasy setting!" No real-world examples or any mention of how well they work, though, because I'd wager your character gender and premise matters way more. It's why I can make a killing in terrible pings with a cheeky joke and a hyperlink to a character reference on my straight titcow girls but a "properly" structured ad on my gay/gay-leaning guys doesn't even attract crickets. Or maybe I'm the shitter.
Regardless, I wouldn't recommend TOTALLY relying on ads. They don't exactly bring in the cream of the crop. If you're not lucky or interested in dumpster diving you're probably gonna want to nut up and find/approach people yourself.
>Is it wrong to steal people's custom kinks? Do I need to credit them in some way?
Wholly dependent on the circumstances: no and no. Either way you're probably best off tweaking the descriptions a little like you're copying someone's English homework. "Stolen/taken/borrowed/copied/lifted/whatever from so-and-so" is grossly tacky and implies you're too inept to write your own customs and that they should go check out the people who wrote them in the first place. Note this is assuming we're talking about kinks and descriptions, not Unicode formatting, in which case steal all you like because there's easy resources like Profile References/Unicode Sort Test that they probably ganked it from anyway.
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No.279315
>>279312
Wow, thanks for the detailed answer.
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No.279321
>>279298
Having experienced both ERP and intimate sex in the context of a committed and consensual monogamous relationship, no.
That said, using roleplay as a way to explore sex and intimacy in a safe, consenting, noncommittal environment isn't a bad idea. But because you're not doing it in a wholly therapeutic manner (perhaps with an actual therapist who can at least help explore/review your RP experiences) you will probably get very poor results. ERP especially is an extremely indulgent hobby where all the hangups about sex, both positive and negative, come crashing together. Everyone else will be too busy looking to get theirs for you to get yours.
Do not use it as a replacement, surrogate, or simulation. Do use it as a creative outlet for mental exercise, and as a social hobby for meeting people (RPG groups are great for this, but you will have to do some legwork to find GMs and players). If you want to heal and improve yourself, you have to focus on doing exactly that, and not using RP to live in a dream world that can be shattered or strangled on a whim when someone loses interest or gets distracted.
I'm not a psychiatric expert of any kind but I think it's best if you focus on what you have rather than what you're trying to replace. You might just surprise yourself and find there's more there than you thought.
t. someone who tried self-medicating through ERP as a result of a breakup
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No.279323
How do I quit ERP? I'm addicted and I hate this.
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No.279325
>>279312
>a "properly" structured ad on my gay/gay-leaning guys doesn't even attract crickets.
care to post some of these guys?
i'm not gonna approach you for play or anything, just curious
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No.279326
>>279325
Regretting throwing that piece in since it was meant as a joke but landed really flat and kinda whiny. After taking inventory to figure out who to post, my ads are probably the least of my worries given all my boys are bishes (or next thing to it) and canon. Here's a couple anyway. Decided just now to take out the edgy, crusty-looking Bible verse/mosaic abomination I had on Cain so it's mmmmmarginally better than what I was advertising with.
https://www.f-list.net/c/dvornyaga/
https://www.f-list.net/c/le%20mat/
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No.279330
>>279326
cute layouts anon
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No.279334
Is it ok to delete a character and recreate them later when you have more stuff to write about them? I made the mistake of creating characters before knowing what I wanted to do with them.
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No.279346
>>279334
Why wouldn't it be?
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No.279368
I'm not familiar with the dom/sub dynamic, so I get confused when I see profiles mention that they don't want doormat subs or idiotic doms. What makes a good dom/sub?
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No.279373
>>279368
Doormat sub = person who is just waiting for you to move them along and being completely passive to the scene. Idiotic dom is way more general and can mean anything.
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No.279386
>>279373
How should someone be active in a scene as a reluctant sub though?
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No.279390
>>279386
Play as someone who is kinda stuck with it and wants to get it over with. Or maybe they could be reluctant to submit because they fancy themselves the one who should be on top. Perhaps they're playing along and are using their sexuality/guile as a distraction until they can find a way to escape but find themselves becoming corrupted. People react differently to different situations and when they all start to blur together it can get boring.
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No.279434
…is there something wrong with this post? It's supposed to be the starter for a long term, low sex, fantasy type thing.
It's been a day & my partner hasn't replied, so I'm assuming they've poofed on me –
& if that's the case, should I message them about it? Or just let it be.
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No.279454
Does the discord still exist?
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No.279549
>>279386
As someone who has "very subby characters" in their nos for a lot of their dominant profiles
Do something
Literally fucking anything.
I had to put this there because I kept getting people that wanted me to do literally everything and their posts were just reiterations of the thing I just said.
"X does y to z"
"Z-z gets y'd by x…!"
Give me some internal dialogue. Give me some push back. If it's a reluctant or unwilling partner, have them try to get away or distract themselves from the situation at hand. If its consensual, try being selfish or try pleasing the dom.
Being the sub does not mean "lay there like a fucking plank while the dom gets you off" unless you both agree that is the scene at hand. The main reason I don't do heavy bondage RP is because I can't wrap my head around what the fuck is supposed to be written for the one tied up after the first 2 or 3 posts once they're bound.
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No.279567
>>243809
How can I tell if my profiles are good enough to approach people on? I am new to this and quite intimidated by the 50 paragraphs of text in every character profile that I like
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No.279569
>>279567
The best profiles are relatively short and have most info in their kinks.
Having one to two paragraphs in your profile is all you need, those do need to be good and to the point though. Plus an inline.
What you want to look at is their set post-size, if you're new you'll be a semi-para shitter and you'll be looking for people with that post-size.
There is no way around to posting your profile if you want people to tell you if its good enough or not, but you can heavily make up for a bad profile by clear and direct approaches to people with appealing ideas.
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No.279572
>>279569
>Having one to two paragraphs in your profile is all you need
Does this also apply to story driven profiles?
>Plus an inline.
What if you don't have enough images to work with? Could using a symbol/icon related to your character work? For example, let's say you have a character that's a cop, so you decide to make a simple police officer badge in inkscape/gimp/etc.
>if you're new you'll be a semi-para shitter
TFW this applies to me. I can get 4-7 sentences down around fifteen minutes or less. The people that can pump out 7-10+ sentences around fifteen mintues amazes me.
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No.279573
>>279572
>Does this also apply to story driven profiles?
Less so, but still yes. You want to keep things short, people don't want to waste their time reading filler or stuff that isn't appealing.
If you have some intricate setting, relationships or whatever that you can say "people reading this have a very high chance to be interested because of it"
Still, you should be able to condense things and showcase your writing and your ideas in about two good paragraphs.
>What if you don't have enough images to work with? Could using a symbol/icon related to your character work?
Yes, but generally art of a character as your inline is much better.
Considering you're a storyfag, you'll have a hard time getting play though. F-List is for cyberfucking first and foremost.
>TFW this applies to me.
Everyone starts off a shitter and then maybe gits gud
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No.279575
>>279573
>Yes, but generally art of a character as your inline is much better.
Art can be hard to find for the characters I'm working on. Hopefully the symbol/icon will be good enough. I would not be surprised if some people scrapped a character because they didn't have enough art to work with.
>Considering you're a storyfag, you'll have a hard time getting play though.
I'm fine with doing sex-driven, I just want some context, even if the story exists in the "background" or setup is enough for me. Plus I'm a notesfag too.
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No.279579
Why do people make such a big deal about length? If you can concisely, and nicely communicate something within a smaller paragraph than normal then…why not do that?
I guess I'm getting frustrated at all the interesting characters I see out there…that require you to be multi para or shit out paragraphs that are 10+ sentences.
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No.279582
>>279579
I mostly listed my post length as multi-para to ward off low-effort shitposters. With stuff like dialogue or action I usually only write a paragraph or two.
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No.279586
>>279575
>I would not be surprised if some people scrapped a character
That happens often
>I just want some context, even if the story exists in the "background"
That is literally what everyone except the absolute bottom of shitters do, every semi-para fag and up makes up some sort of scene with background shit.
That doesn't make you a storyfag in any way.
F-List isn't like Skype/Discord cyberfucking at all
>>279579
Because when you have experience, it is incredibly easy and comes natural to write at length, describe shit in detail and crank out fat posts, even in 1 on 1 sex-driven scenes.
There is so much detail that lacks in semi-para, and there is a massive difference between strong to multi-para players and semi-para shitters.
Basically, I am not going to settle for less and only shitters that don't know what quality is repeat the "I prefer quantity over quality" meme
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No.279588
>>279586
>That is literally what everyone except the absolute bottom of shitters do, every semi-para fag and up makes up some sort of scene with background shit.
>That doesn't make you a storyfag in any way.
I was not clear in my previous post, sorry.
I'll have to work my way up from semi-para to above. Any advice on rising above poop tier? Just write about how my character is feeling and thinking in any given situation and other things?
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No.279590
>>279588
There is no way to git gud other than experience, writing and reading a lot.
It'll take a long time, and just try to enjoy yourself in the meantime.
Steal, copy and change what other players you enjoyed did/wrote, after you figured out what exactly it is, sentence by sentence.
If you're deliberately trying to up your post length, do so gently. Try and cover all senses if applicable, describe things visually and have your own character react to the sensations he experiences. A feedback loop, essentially. You might have to experiment with that and often delete sentences that don't work, but that is how I end up doing a lot of stuff.
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No.279593
>>279454
It does, yes. It's where everyone has gone.
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No.279594
>>279593
care to send an invite?
leaf#5978
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No.279597
>>279590
Thanks for your advice.
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No.279601
>>279593
>>279594
Likewise - ogiemane#3475
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No.279605
>>279594
>>279601
Me as well please. 𝖬𝗈𝗆#1085 You'll have to copypaste it.
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No.279639
So on F-List, custom kinks where you can put all your kinks in there will still make said kinks show up in search results, right? Last I've heard, if you do that, the character search will not list you if someone is searching for a certain kink and said kink is in your collapse.
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No.279643
>>279639
The kink dropdowns are a visual thing. If you want someone to still find characters with a specific kink in searches, you need to also add the kink regularly.
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No.279644
What's the ratio between subs and doms?
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No.279645
>>279644
Using raw Character Search numbers with no other quality control or accounting for nuances like paper tigers, people who don't put in a preference, bottom or top, etc:
>17,802 pages Always Dom + Usually Dom
>20,830 pages Always Sub + Usually Sub
Bonus (also not accounting for stuff like kink dumps, hubs, individual preferences, or 2-in-1s that use it to represent one character being dom and the other sub or whatever):
>22,723 pages Switch
Each page has about 10 profiles on it.
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No.279647
What makes a dom a good dom? What makes a dom a bad dom?
What makes a sub a good sub? What makes a sub a bad sub?
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No.279649
>>279647
If we drop the most trivial cases of generic bitchbreakers and "lazy and demanding" subs from that oglaf comic, it's really the interplay. A good dom will understand that they generally control the flow of a scene and thus will keep things moving along, writing with the pacing of the scene in mind while tuning their posts to give the sub opportunities to react and respond so they aren't just blithely writing the dom's actions back at them. A bad dom will pace things poorly, or all but write the sub's post for them. Even for heavy bondage where the freedom of movement is in inches, a dom's post can be written such that the sub has "calls" they can respond to by hinting at future actions, outright prompts for how the sub will react to something, and so on.
A good sub is an active sub. This doesn't mean their writing must depict a powerbottom or such, a good sub can absolutely write a deadfish character. It's all about how the post the sub writes is made in response to the dom's actions. They'll probe at the dom for further details in how they write, they'll mine out all the details they can eke from the dom's post and use them to belt out a response in kind. Bad subs are passive writers that expect the dom to just drop their character's behaviors in front of them on a silver platter for them to present back, or get excessively particular about the flow of a scene and try to retcon things without there being any good reason to.
thanks for coming to my ted talk
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No.279651
>>279647
The answer is: Whichever turns you on.
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No.279652
>>279649
10/10 would listen to again
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No.279664
I have a couple questions.
1. Could bishonens be considered twinks?
2. Do shemales/futas ejaculate like males do?
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No.279665
>>279664
1. Only if they're homo
2. Yes
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No.279675
Is there any difference between the Dom/Sub Role and the Position option?
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No.279676
>>279675
Sure, position is just physical position, while role is about how proactive and in-control one is.
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No.279699
How frowned upon would it be to faceclaim what could (potentially) be an obscure character from a once-popular series? Or to be more specific, a side-character from one of the later Bayblade shows? I dunno shit about that series other than spinning tops and letting them fight on concrete.
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No.279701
>>279699
Generally, an original character is better. However, using a canon character is usually fine- as long as the art is consistent. I think you should be fine.
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No.279702
>>279701
Well yeah that's what a face-claim is, it's usually using canon character art and saying "that's not Sonic, I'm my original character, Blonic!"
Either way, thanks.
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No.279703
>>279699
Like the other Anon said, OC is preferable, but there’s nothing wrong with faceclaiming. Most people aren’t put off by substantially more popular characters being used as lookalikes. Personally if get put off it’s because the profile itself is terrible and I’m disgusted by the fact that a character I like is showing up in “anime boy with x feature” search results and being associated with drivel, not because they’re FCing a character I like.
I’m not sure a single person on the site knows, let alone cares, enough about Beyblade to resent or avoid you because you’re using one of its characters. If they do they probably have genuine autism and/or you won’t speak with them anyway.
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No.279704
>>279703
An artist’s OC* even, bleh
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No.279747
since i cant find the bitching thread. Are lewd ttrpgs a wasted effort if you're unwilling to fuck any old thing? How the hell does a lewd party even work if misfortune kicks in and nobody is meshing sexually?
Because I'm again in a game that's lumping me in with a fur and scalefag respectively. Kobolds are abhorrent and shifters ARE furry. So including myself that's three people out of 5 off the table
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No.279755
Am I missing some active place where group play is organized?
F-List seems thoroughly about private 1-on-1 unless you like the kitchen sink rooms. The rooms with specific settings are always silent.
Blue Moon's group forums are just this cycle of the same 5 people failing to get past character introductions.
Much the same at Elliquiy on a slightly larger scale.
Did all the interest vanish in ~8 years or has it relocated?
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No.279770
>>279755
I've never actually seen a place that had a lot of public ERP going on.
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No.279774
>>279747
In my experience as DM, lewd games are an absolute waste of time. It will be one of three:
>1. No one meshes sexually. Game proceeds as bog-standard D&D campaign. Table eventually called off.
>2. Only a few members mesh sexually. Table proceeds as a regular D&D campaign with some bawdier elements and about half of the players privately ERPing on the side (or worse, doing so in public where the excluded members can see). Frustrated players leave campaign. Table eventually called off.
>3. All players mesh sexually. Players eventually all lose/submit to the same minotaur/dominatrix/etc miniboss or gang rape an elf girl into the dirt. Players experience catharsis and promptly give up on the game once nuts are busted, due to the fact participating in a D&D campaign just to get off is disproportionately gargantuan effort for an experience you could get in 20 minutes in F-List. Table eventually called off.
There is also the fact most ERP is quite repetitive and there is very little room for a character to move in if they've been made into sex slaves or someso (By far 90% of the players for these kinds of campaigns are submissives).
If you were some kind of ultra-horny degenerate I could see value in it, but I've never met someone truly into *everything*.
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No.279778
Is Viktor of the Pen a mod? I always see him responding to every single comment days after he posted his own. Or unless he's ass-kissing to get a spot?
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No.279788
>>279774
Herm. You raise good points. I'm the point 2 here, the odd man out so far. The party's so far a kobold, a catgirl and me, a slime. Now I've got my kinks but yeah- I absolutely don't do animal races
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No.279790
>>279788
I would be satisfied with that party composition. I don't like kobolds either, but catgirls and slimes are do-able. What is the distribution of dominant/submissive players?
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No.279791
>>279790
Two confirmed bottoms. I'm switch inclined. That leaves two unknowns- assuming everyone present makes it to session 0 this sunday and then to the session 1 proper
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No.279796
>>279774
The only way it's worked for me includes two important elements:
>Single Player, with the other party members functioning as DMPC's, and
>No monster rape or sex combat, so there is a clear division between sex scenes and other scenes associated with TTRPG's, like combat encounters and puzzle solving.
>No submissives
The main benefit I get from this is, when I bust my nut from a hot scene I can stay invested by setting up a combat encounter, or some non sexual role playing. In normal ERP's I have nothing to hold my interest after orgasm, and find it very hard to just keep going.
Unfortunately, every ERPG I've tried to set up, to the exception of two campaigns with a specific player, has failed for the following reasons:
>Player turns out to be a shitty writer and creatively bankrupt.
>Player just doesn't show up to play. Campaign fails to continue without them.
>Player shows no initiative and fails to ask questions about their environment.
The classic example is when you start a campaign in jail, and they can't be arsed to think of a way to escape. Making a perception check doesn't even cross their minds. The specific way I play erotic D&D seems to only work with one partner, and that person deleted their profiles without warning like two years ago. Everything else since then has been a disappointment.
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No.279833
If you were a notefag and only had one chance to get someone's attention, what would you put in the title of your note? I've done vague shit like 'scene idea' to a brief (if possible) description, all the way to weird and unrelated shit like 'hello yes i am nigerian prince'.
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No.279837
>>279833
My opinion: It doesn't matter. Chatfags will ignore you because they want the "excitement" of rapid-fire poses, and even if you manage to seduce them into giving you a try with your incredible wit, they'll probably get bored and ghost you later.
Meanwhile, notefags know other notefags are rarer than diamonds and aren't going to ignore you because of a boring subject line. It's also nigh effortless and risk-free to actually read a note and decide whether to reply based on the content, compared to replying to some illiterate shitter on chat who opens with "hi" and making them think you might be interested if they call you a fucking bitch enough.
If F-List had read receipts then things might be different, fortunately the site is garbage.
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No.279839
>>279837
For some reason it's almost been the exact opposite from me, from being flat-out ghosted like I don't exist despite sending a well thought-out note, and this shit flat-out happens in the middle of an RP too when I think I'm doing great.
Either way thanks.
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No.279840
Any chance I could get help with naming an Enkidu profile? Preferably names that don't require submitting a ticket, I'm pretty sure I'm still on cooldown.
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No.279843
>>279839
Unless you're getting ignored even by people whose profiles make it clear they prefer or are open to note RP, I suspect that simply wanting to RP over notes is the issue, not anything about your approach. Then again there's no real way to know why anyone doesn't answer; I just find it comfortable to believe as a cynic.
As for people suddenly disappearing mid-RP, that is a concrete difference between chat and note RP, yeah. I guess it's because even if you're stuck in a chat RP you're not really into, you know the session will end within a matter of hours, and then you can just find some excuse not to RP with the person again. There's no good time to end a note RP, so people who fear the confrontation of saying "yeah I'm not enjoying this" will just go silent forever.
It sucks and there's no real solution, but again it's probably not your fault - the most you could do is ask your partner OOCly if they're enjoying the RP and if there's anything you could do to make it better, but that in itself might rub people the wrong way, or they might not be honest with you.
>>279840
"Feet of Clay"
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No.279854
Thoughts on using a classical painting as a character reference? Is it pretentious?
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No.279855
When you see a remake of a character, what're your thoughts?
I'm thinking of overhauling one of my dudes since he's not getting much play. Maybe removing the supernatural aspects of his character, and just making him a regular cop in NYC or something.
Somewhat unrelated but I'm salty my dom dude already has 5 bookmarks despite being nowhere near done.
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No.279857
>>279854
Yes, very. I'd also imagine the person playing is a legit middle eastern man because based on my experiences in second life, that's exactly the sort of reference they would use.
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No.279859
>>279854
The people saying it's pretentious are usually the same people that play boring anime characters.
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No.279863
>>279855
On a site where 50% of profiles are either blank, nothing but a low-effort inline or nothing but a message equivalent to "Working on it" (bonus points if it's been there for months or years with no updates,) I'm always impressed to see someone doing profile work of any sort.
The most negative reaction might be if I was into their old profile and am not interested in the revised one, but even then I'd probably just blame myself for not contacting them earlier, then use it as an impetus to get in touch and ask them if they're still willing to play their old self.
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No.279868
>>279855
Remakes are fine as long as you're not cutting a long term scene short with someone, but I doubt that's the case. If you're worried it may make you seem desperate… eh, I suppose some could take it that way. At the end of the day as long as you're not shoving it into someone's face you just want a bit of action like anyone else.
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No.279885
How the hell do you write a shota profile to NOT be generic? I can't think of any realistic, fun hobbies or traits because they're just that young.
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No.279887
>>279885
Comprehend that people who enjoy shota do so because their brains didn't get the message during puberty. Focus on the virility aspect of your character to be popular.
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No.279888
lewd RPG anon back again. I'm in session 0 and yeah..is this stunted sperg silence likely to last? I have to kick the discussion along or it will never start
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No.279889
>>279665
>Only if they're homo
What if they're hetero? I play straight males and females.
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No.279890
>>279889
I'm pretty sure "twink" refers exclusively to gay males with pretty-boy looks.
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No.279892
>>279889
Twink is explicit gay slang with explicit gay etymology. While the slender hairless body and youthful face are also characteristic of bishies, it wouldn't feel right being used to describe a straight guy for that reason.
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No.279894
>>279890
I really wish there were good twinky pretty boys on the site. Its either "anime generic boy" or "femboy". Like I play some genderbends of my female canons sometimes just because I really like their references, but still. (images are some examples!)
Oh and if they are online, they are either gay or super vanilla/
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No.279897
>>279854
>1669+350
>Not exclusively using classical artwork as character references.
I sincerely hope that you plebeians do not make this mistake.
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No.279898
>>279854
Personally, I think it's fine. The only difficult part about using classical art is maybe finding art of similar looking characters, if you want to use more than one image.
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No.279901
>>279894
I like playing as pretty guys but it's generally not worth it to even go online as I all get are "cute guy, shame you're straight/gay" from randos or unsolicited IC starters from BBC niggers
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No.279902
>>279901
>…as I all get are "cute guy, shame you're straight/gay" from randos or unsolicited IC starters from BBC niggers
What kind of male characters do you play that causes that to happen?
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No.279903
>>279902
Pretty boys. Not femboys, just pretty. I also have a dom trap profile too which I use exclusively to fuck other men in the ass
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No.279908
Man this board is a mess. Y'all should delete all those old threads already.
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No.280005
How do you play a shemale/futa?
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No.280020
>>280005
Depends on the character. I try to play up the breasts and the hips whenever I can, though. Things like sassy hip-bumps or smothering someone's head between their massive tits, etc. Some are more dyke-ish (stiff movements, stern expressions, smelling of cigs and whiskey, muscular), some are more feminine (graceful, gentle, soft and pudgy, sweet-smelling).
As cliche as it is I'll likely go off the art. For pic related I'd go with someone who's bold, strong, an exhibitionist/showoff. The power of her hips and the depth of her muscles when they tense up every time she rails into someone and how her breasts may very well be the only soft part on her chiseled body. If I wanted to go into a bit more depth I could always do a complete 180 and make her much more calm and perhaps even bashful once she takes off the mask.
Just my two cents. If you're using a reference your partner will probably have some expectations based on it. If you have a reference that has a massive warty dick gushing with custard-like nutslime then they probably want that instead of a sweet, smooth feminine penis.
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No.280021
>>280020
Thanks for the information.
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No.280039
The last time I tried to give cunnilingus was a disaster. I know how to give a blowjob, but I struggle with giving oral to vagoo wielders.
TL;DR: How do I eat the pussy good and receive eating of the pussy good?
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No.280064
>>280005
They are a woman with a penis, not a man with tits.
Keep this in mind and you will immediately be able to tell good shemales from bad shemales. Failed blue trash is a real thing.
>>280039
Don't just jam your tongue in. Roll it around. Push against the edges. Alternate speed of your motion. Suck on their clit. Toy with their ass while you do it.
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No.280109
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No.280504
What's a good email service to use for roleplaying? I was thinking of making a proton mail account just for that.
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No.280520
Is it okay to play a shemale if you don't like anal that much?
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No.280523
>>280520
It's okay to do whatever, you just can't go in expecting much play with more niche stuff. You should be pretty good if you go looking for characters with an oral fixation though. Try setting it as one of your custom favourites too, there are plenty of people who want to choke on purple cock
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No.280529
I wanna change my name, but I'm not sure what to. I used to only use F-list for just a kink profile but now i use F-Chat i want a better name for it. Currently its just the first thing i could think of so it wasn't a weird username from something else but now I'm not sure what to make my username now.
It's just a whatever OC profile, probably just want something with "Cassie" in it
https://www.f-list.net/c/red%20cassie/
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No.280559
I like playing shemales fucking other males because it touches both my top kinks (Orientation Play and Reverse Sexual Dimorphism) Would I be able to find plenty of plays? And if so what rooms are the best to such said plays?
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No.280561
I'm embarrassed to ask this, even humiliated if that's your thing, but how do you go about writing vaginal sex? What are good things to note/describe? I'm drawing a blank in writing anything beyond "his cock feels like it's hitting the back" and "her pussy feels tight and wet". Is it that simple?
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No.280562
>>280561
This goes for anything really, but don't focus too hard on any one aspect. Tease the clitoris, mention those pussy lips parting around the head of the cock and embracing the shaft, let those balls slap up against her when you're rutting in deep. Describe your character's thoughts and feelings, how happy he is to finally be inside her, how his cock is throbbing with the desperate need to release his seed deep inside and get her pregnant. There are only so many different ways you can describe penetration too, so keep your character occupied in other ways, by playing with other parts of her body, squeezing her tits and grabbing her ass.
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No.280564
>>280562
Thanks, anon! How about the female's side? Should I note how badly she wants his dick? Try wrapping her legs around him?
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No.280566
>>280564
Leg wraps are always hot. You can mention how hot she feels between her thighs, how it might sting a little to be stretched so much, how the pleasures washes through her from waist all the way to her extremities, how her inner walls clamp down on him and how good the sensation of his cock rubbing against them feels, etc. Of course, all of these are coming from the assumption that it's a fairly vanilla experience and she's into it. You can always shift your focus to things better related to any themes of the scene. A dominant woman might slam herself down onto a man, for example, and watch as he squirms in pleasure beneath her. An unwilling participant might feel a lot more pain and psychological impact.
The key a lot of the time is to not focus totally on the physical act of penetration itself. It's like cooking up some meat and eating it plain - make sure you've got your seasoning and sides on that plate too if you want a full meal!
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No.280567
>>280566
Thanks again, anon.
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No.280569
>>280559
>Would I be able to find plenty of plays?
I think you should be able to get some play at the very least. Sadly, I tend to play through notes, so I can't really recommend any rooms.
That sounds kind of interesting. What things are you looking to explore or do with that idea?
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No.280571
>>280569
I've been thinking a soft dom / romance session where the shemale tries to court the male character - giving him gifts, admiring his attributes, and flaunting her feminine aspects.
She's ashamed and knows that her body isn't what he would expect but she really wants to fuck him with her girl cock as a way to "express" her love.
Feeling like he is indebted to her, he consents to a blowjob and gets hooked on the dick
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No.280572
>>280571
Anon, I think that sounds rad and wholesome. I currently have a few rps going on at the moment, but I'd love to play that out. Please post a profile or something.
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No.280579
>>280572
Sorry for the delay response. I deleted my f-list profile out of frustration, but I recently put it back up to have another go.
https://www.f-list.net/c/berserker%20atla/
Hmu via notes whenever you have time.
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No.280581
>>280579
Great, I'll check you out when I get the chance!
I wanted to play with this character before, too.
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No.280628
Is it alright to be slow to respond or have inconsistent post length?
Obviously there are times like conversations and that where there isn't a lot to write about and you have to give space for your partners to reply and stuff, but I often worry that I'm taking too long and just need to post it rather than rush it and wrote garbage. I normally, consistently, get to about 2 sentences to a paragraph at the least. Also, dyslexia is a bitch and I ended up staring at the word "always" for ten minutes the other day trying to work out how it wasn't spelt wrong.
Advice? Reassurance? Am I just stupid?
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No.280629
>>280628
>Is it alright to be slow to respond or have inconsistent post length?
I think that's fine. Personally, the only people I've seen that really complain about taking a long time to post aren't really worth playing with anyway. As long as your partner understands that you're putting in the effort, I think you should be fine.
Though, to be fair, I'm also a slow writer.
>Advice? Reassurance? Am I just stupid?
I've heard of some people trying out writing prompts to increase their posting speed, but I don't know if that really works and I haven't tried it myself. It could just be one of those things you improve as you get more rps under your belt. If you're truly worried, you can join the Note-RP master race.
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No.280631
>>280628
>Is it alright to be slow to respond?
I have the same problem. I put too much thought of what I have to say and then suddenly it's been almost an hour before I know it. I use to try to rush and make a much of errors in my posts, which puts me in a bad headspace.
>or have inconsistent post length?
As long as you're within your partners preferred posting length, I don't see the issue. I understand the problem of not having anything to write in certain situations though.
>Advice?
If something like para takes too long to write up, go down to semi-para. It's what I did, and it makes a difference. Keep in mind that how much you post doesn't determined your ability as an erotic role player / smut writer. I use to be able to write multi-para posts pretty quickly, but I guarantee you they are trash. Quality > Quantity.
>Reassurance?
This is an iterative process. The more you do it, the better you'll be.
Also, you can do what >>280629 said. Role playing through notes is nice in that you can take your time to make a well made post.
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No.280634
Also, second question, what is the most appealing way to have your kink list set up?
Lots of custom kinks seem a lot more hassle than its really worth if you don't have many unique kinks, and lot of drop downs seem like a mess to go through to find kinks.
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No.280635
>>280634
Someone else might have a different view, but for me
>Appealing to the eye
Subkinks - minimum 4 customs to use for dropdowns. Details (ie unicode embellishment, presence of descriptions, presence of other customs) vary by taste. I actually find the subfetish interface way more convenient and intuitive than manually clicking through the rankings on the Edit Character screen.
>Appealing to go through
For me, even if the kinks themselves mundane/basic, I love pure custom kinks with a dropdown for defaults because those customs can be, well, customized - tailored to the character and used as a preview to my/a prospective partner's writing style. For example… everyone knows what titfucking is, but do they know that Jane Doe has a particular love (or IC hate) of it, or a style of doing it?
>Appealing to set up
lol
>In general
Setting up and reading big swaths of kinks is going to be a tedious chore no matter what, and my only advice about THAT is to skip over redundant ones (no need to have Fellatio - Receiving, Fellatio - Giving, Cunnilingus - Giving, Cunnilingus - Receiving, Oral Sex - Receiving, AND Oral Sex - Giving)/those you don't feel strongly about one way or another (especially in regards to fundamental things like kissing) and just be ready to answer questions from partners, which you'd probably end up doing anyway.
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No.280636
>>280630
>>280632
You're welcome, anon!
>Also, just like any writing prompts or are there specific ones for RP?
I think it was just any writing prompt. Now that I've thought about it more, one thing you could try is making up a random scenario for one of your characters and time yourself- see how much you could write under a time limit.
>>280631
That's a thicc Chun-Li.
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No.280638
>>280635
Thanks, I'll see about doing that over the course of like months probably.
>>280636
I'll try looking for something to help. Although I don't really know how to find stuff that you only have to write for one character for.
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No.280691
Being a degenerate foot fetishist, I'm going to want to give footjobs at some point. What are good things to note or describe?
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No.280692
>>280691
That paws and hooves are objectively superior.
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No.280693
>>280691
Think about what you'd want to hear and feel as a foot fetishist yourself.
Don't forget there are different parts to the foot. You can press your clammy, warm sole down against the shaft, sure, but you can also tease and knead it with your toes and grind your heel between the balls.
The bottom line is that not everyone is going to want to hear exactly the same things, so your best bet is to be creative. What can you do with this or that part of the foot on this or that part of the body? And if you're wearing stockings or socks, remember to keep in mind the texture of that particular piece of clothing, how it feels against the skin and how well the cum soaks through.
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No.280696
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No.280702
How do you play a good submissive? What about being uppity, do I just try and no-sell the dom's actions?
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No.280709
>>280702
>How do you play a good submissive?
Two things off the top of my head for both unwilling and willing sub:
>Describe mental state at any giving moment, be it via words, hinted with body language, or from narrating the sub's thoughts.
>write about how the sub's mind and body react to what the dom is doing, which isn't already described by the dom's action. For example, if the dom writes about spanking hard enough to leave red marks, the buttcheek deforming under his palm, then the sub could go into details about how that fat rear is jiggling from the impact, cheeks clapping off one another or something like that.
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No.280717
>>280064
tbh i think there is a niche for "man with tits" but that's a specific thing to go for intentionally that usually requires some specific backstory work to justify
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No.280738
If you see a gay male character with femininity in faves and masculinity in maybe, should you avoid them?
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No.280740
>>280738
I would purely out of spite, but that's up to you. Thinking realistically they're probably just really into femboys and nothing else.
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No.280741
>>280740
>I would purely out of spite… Thinking realistically they're probably just really into femboys and nothing else.
It may or may not make you madder, anon, but the character that made me bring that up appears to also play with shemales and females. I don't even know what to think anymore.
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No.280743
>>280741
Thanks, I hate it.
Then again it could be an orientation player who only wants to be fucked straight and has their profile sexuality set to their IC one..? Didn't occur to me at first because I always have my profiles reflect my OOC androphilia even if I consider the character themselves bi or whatever
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No.280791
How do you write good body worship? Is it more than just having your character complement the other character's cock, pussy, or tids?
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No.280792
>>280791
Internal monologue and your own body reactions. Let the other person know that you're actually worshiping the body, not just paying lip-service. Choice of language can make a big difference too. You're not just licking her clit, you're "adoring it with your tongue". You're not just sucking that cock, you're "embracing it lovingly with your warm lips". There's a danger of being overly flowery sometimes, but you need at least some seasoning.
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No.280859
How do you erp tickling? While it's not a personal fetish, I'd like to know how to do it so that I can please my partners that enjoy it.
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No.280872
>>280859
I would describe it as a mix message of body language. Your body contorts and writhes, but you're laughing (involuntary) to the point where you're literally screaming and tears are spilling out. Tickling is sort of "soft" or "good-hearted" torture. Emotionally, it's a cross between "it feels good" and "I want it to stop."
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No.280875
For giving and receiving, how do you write good anal sex? What if the receiver has a prostate? I know raw anal is a meme, so I want to avoid that.
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No.280885
>>280872
Thanks for the help! What about writing the act itself, because just writing "x tickled y part of the body" isn't going to get anyone off. This is new fetish territory for me, which is why I'm asking.
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No.280894
>>280885
Describe how the tip of the fingers briskly touch across vulnerable areas (armpits, sides, soles of the feet). I like to think tickling is like "baby's first D/S" as there should be a sense of joy in the tickler watching his/her partner being subjugated by his/her harmless fun. So I would describe more of the emotional aspect on that.
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No.280895
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No.280896
How do you write a good bio? Whenever I make a new character, I find that to be the hardest part. Coming up with the kinds of scenes I want to do a character and writing customs are easy for me, but I always struggle with the bio.
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No.280901
>>280896
A good bio is informative on what the character is and how the character came to be without going into too much detail. Things like personality and occupation could of been the result of their upbringing in a particular environment.
"Character A was born in a major, seafaring town on the east coast. Being the end result of an unwanted conception, Character A was made orphaned at birth and grew up alone as a street urchin in the town's poorest region, surrounded by low-lives and predators. Character A grew up as a streetwise delinquent with a merciless attitude in order to persevere in the hardships that life in the slums brings. This fierce demeanor earned her street credentials and she gained entree to the criminal underworld."
From this brief bio we know now that Character A is a hard person because she lived a hard life. We know how she came to be the character we are role playing with right now.
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No.280903
Have you thought of migrating? Most of 8ch is doing it, /hgg/ is the most recent, and I'm surprised that this board doesn't seem to care and puts up with this autistic rulecuckery.
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No.280907
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No.280932
The fuck do you even put for shemales in gender preference? Does being gay mean they like women only? I just gave up early on in f-list and put in bi - female pref even though i'd only ever rarely fuck a male character and get barraged by massive amounts of the worst sub males in the world
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No.280933
>>280932
>Does being gay mean they like women only?
Yes. Your character is a WOMAN after all regardless of her equipment. Women fucking women is gay.
Well, that and you shouldn't give people false hope (especially not people desperate and starved as submissive straight men) by setting yourself to bisexual of any kind because they WILL latch on no matter how hard of a maybe they are. There's nothing saying you can't break your own rules and approach men that do catch your eye, just treat profile sexuality and customs as rules of engagement
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No.280934
>>280933
I thought of putting males as a maybe but I got hit even worse by people who dont read the kink (I'll do it if we already know each other well as regular partners and its my rare type) and approach me multiple times under different characters by the same person.
What confuses me is why they're so desperate and yet never try making a pink character, even after getting banned off f-list multiple times, making the exact same profile and approaching me again
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No.280935
>>280934
Yeah, if those are your rules then you might as well just set your girl to gay with males in No. I understand the idea behind customs like that, but "maybe" will always invite "so you're telling me there's a chance." I'd just tell regular partners about the option privately if they express interest. As for why they don't play pinks, the type of person that acts like that is probably treating this like cybering. It's also why their characters (generally) aren't characters at all, but generic nice guy traits that probably correspond to the writer's ideal self-image. They NEED to be able to self-insert and/or they're just not comfortable writing a female body since they're pitifully unfamiliar and have no confidence.
That or - and this is much more rare among the types that ban and ignore evade because it requires a sense of decency and humility - they do play pinks but have grown sick of it (or worse, they're just so terrible not even boobs can hide it). It's a little autistic, but I would compare it to filling in a video game. Yeah, playing support/tank is a lot of fun, and you actually get to play the game since you have short queues even for niche content, but if you prefer playing DPS then you'll inevitably want to do it once in awhile.
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No.280984
What's an optimal number of customs to have for a character?
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No.280985
I get really, really horny whenever I write essays for class and I don't know why. People tell me that my writing is good. I have never RPed in my life. Is there something wrong with me, and if not, should I start ERPing?
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No.280986
>>280985
You're a degenerate, but so is everyone. Embrace it and welcome to the club
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No.281044
What advice or resources do you anons have for writing prose? I want to make my writing more enjoyable to read.
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No.281047
>>281044
Read more. Write more.
Check out and read some posts from the ERP logs thread
Places like Literotica can be good too.
Knowing how to be more visceral in your writing will help. Go out and hook up with other role players, save your logs so you can look back and figure out how you can write certain segments better, and always ask for feedback.
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No.281048
>>281044
>>281047
Also something I want to add that just came to me: A good way to practice that I do sometimes is finding a hentai image or webm / gif. Write and try to describe what you're seeing, what they are feeling.
Something I want to add on the logs part: you can post your role plays on the logs thread if it's okay with your partner and get critique from there. Just erase the names so no one will know who you are.
Check around the imageboard too. There are good nuggets of advice people leave around here.
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No.281076
What's with the aversion against cuntboys? It seems out of all the genders they get shit on the most.
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No.281078
>>281076
It's probably because of the site's demographics. Since most of the users are men into feminine body types, a masculine body type with a coochie is not going to be enticing to them.
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No.281082
I have a somewhat unique situation and am curious about ways to proceed. Specifically, I have a small but good group (a few people) and we post on a forum but it doesn't really matter where we post since our stories are self contained and we talk on discord instead of a forum. We write full featured stories. Detailed plots, serious characters, etc. In some of our stuff we've went past novel length in overall word count for a project. There's also plenty of lewd stuff and ERP but anything explicit is contained to being done privately due to site rules of the site we use. We do a lot of lewd RP within these storylines of ours and it's not exactly vanilla. Rape, slavery, NTR, and polyamory are some things we deal in.
We're thinking of selectively bringing a couple more people into the fold to overall strengthen things and allow for more RP. This presents some challenges, however. This may be an unreasonable ask, but where would someone go about finding potential players that are active more often than not, able to hold their own writing wise, and are down to roll with taboo/extreme kinks?
We only need one to two people but we're having a hard time finding out where to find these people. Thinking of searching discords but the average quality on those is far lower what we do. Is it impossible to find a person or two that takes writing seriously and is into all kinda dark lewd stuff?
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No.281083
>>281076
I've tried to play greens several times over, all of them muscular but not quite bara except two, who were self-loathing type canons whose green names were the worst of their problems in terms of marketing, in hindsight
Disregarding community factors (like the fact that a lot of them are the worst kinds of furry), I've said it before and I'll say it again, they're a gender that are fundamentally doomed to fail
>Male-gendered and, if they're not a retard who feminized their sissy so hard they ended up making a girl with micromastia, clearly male, turning off gynephiles i.e most of the site
>Pussy is not only secondary to outward gender, but inferior to cock for a lot of the userbase (especially among androphile players), and even repulsive put on the male form for some people
>Outplayed by reverse traps; even if they're not interested in being feminized like mine, the pink name and female pronouns alone restore some of the straight male audience
tl;dr: >>281078 basically
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No.281085
>>281076
>>281078
>>281083
Here's the funny part. For all the people that put cuntboys in no, what are the chances of being approached by one anyway? Same thing for male-herms. Combining both of them, I could actually count the number of them I've seen on two hands.
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No.281086
>>281085
In the past month*.
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No.281088
>>281085
Hilariously low for cuntboys, I've approached and played with a couple recently and both said they stopped bothering to approach unless ads specifically mentioned cuntboys. Male-herms is probably less than 0%, especially if you don't accept furries. I'm convinced I extincted a species when I backed out of making my humanoid one.
The seeming sitewide aversion to herms of both genders still baffles me, I can't even remember the last dark purple I saw in the wild besides Bec Al or whatever that one hyena's name is.
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No.281105
>>281082
If I can throw my main in the mix then I'm interested. I'll post my profile later and you can let me know if you think I'm worth your guys time. But I need to ask some questions first..
>What's the setting? (my character is pretty flexible in sci-fi / science fantasy settings.)
>What are the other characters like? (I don't want my character seem out of place.)
>What site do you guys go to? (is it a popular one or some backwater message board?)
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No.281106
>>281105
We do different settings without having too much of an official schedule or anything, we do a futuristic thing with some others from the general public that doesn't have much lewd stuff yet but if we were bringing in anyone new it would probably be for our other setting which is based on the modern world but it's our own canon with some stuff added to fit the needs of the story such as flexible technology etc.
The characters are pretty varied, we pretty much do F/Futa and F/F but it's just how preferences lean, no official rule or anything, there's M/F less commonly also. We do a lot of shipping characters and a decent amount of dom sub stuff with varying levels of willingness for the characters involved. We have a lot of characters we've used across a bunch of past things but that's because we've known each other a relatively long time and do stuff a lot.
Also the site we're on is pretty obscure, and the site itself doesn't have ERP unfortunately.
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No.281108
>>281106
Sounds interesting. My only concern is if my character will fit in. I'll go ahead and post her profile: https://www.f-list.net/c/asuka%20sunahara/
There's plenty of things I need to add onto before I can say she's finished, mainly just the rest of her abilities / weaknesses, weapons, and her guyver. But I believe I wrote enough that you can get the gist of what she's about. I'm interested in a group play, but I'm not sure if she's what your group is looking for.
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No.281109
>>281083
>Outplayed by reverse traps; even if they're not interested in being feminized like mine, the pink name and female pronouns alone restore some of the straight male audience
Imagine not liking reverse traps, imagine having bad taste.
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No.281113
>>281108
Character herself seems fine, exact fit may depend on where she ends up fitting into our stuff exactly, because like I said, we've done different settings and they have different backgrounds and realism levels. So past science fantasy stuff that we've done wouldn't have much overlap with a more recent modern setting in things like character tech/weapons/etc even if we're using other aspects of recurring characters. I guess that's probably not close to what most people from here do with characters, but adaptability helps with it. We've done a bunch of stuff where mercs/bounty hunters would fit tho, hell, it's something we RP currently.
You've got incest and watersports as no on your profile and we've done those a bunch, the former more notably, but I don't think that's too much of a problem, the likes and faves section does have a lot of stuff we've RPed also. We have done bestiality but more rarely.
Wouldn't mind talking on discord to figure stuff out more. Also are you used to playing multiple characters? We have some characters we favor using more than others yeah but since we're a small group and we've done larger scale stories we generally end up playing multiple although its not a hard requirement.
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No.281114
>>281109
Amen. Whenever I get rejected on my boys (female) I'm not that sad because I know that person was a faggot anyway, if not in the literal sense
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No.281147
I know most of you erp on things like f-list where it isn't a problem, but I keep running into character limits when I happen into lewd scenes in mmos.
For wow there's the emote splitter addon, but I was hoping there was something else for other games.
I know of http://kibbles.pythonanywhere.com/ but I find it to be a little clunky.
Ideally I would want like a package for atom that would automatically put in spacers and highlight them so I could chop text up on my own.
Any other solutions?
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No.281148
What are some examples of being a bully, but in a gentle way?
Got this female character and she's a very gentle femdom but I'm not quite sure how to really gently bully people
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No.281164
Where's a good place to find western art that isn't furry?
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No.281165
>>281164
Someone else might have a better answer, but my first thought is usually /tg/booru
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No.281168
>>281165
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much.
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No.281186
How likely am I to find play with a doting dickgirl interested in shemale on male?
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No.281199
Are pictures extremely important? I can't find any good, exact references for a character I want to playtyrannical femboy dragon kingso I was thinking of cropping one of these, so only the face is visible.
Also, should I note somewhere on my profile that I'm very new to writing smut? Because I am.
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No.281200
>>281199
Image importance varies person-to-person, generally you want to prioritize a non-stretched avatar even if it's not a logo. Pulling a Frankenstein isn't the worst thing you can do though.
Don't tell people you're new unless they ask. They can smell fear/lack of confidence and it reeks.
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No.281209
How do you deal with a lack of will to rp? Do you try to power through it? After some of my top partners disappeared or left, I've found it harder and harder to keep interest.
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No.281210
>>281186
Not likely but you probably will find it. There was a guy here doing that awhile ago.
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No.281296
>>281186
What, you mean a lady who'll kiss and hug you while making you cream all over yourself?
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No.281298
>>281209
You are addicted. Why would you continue to do it if you don't feel like doing it anymore?
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No.281299
>>281210
>Not likely but you probably will find it.
What makes you say that?
>There was a guy here doing that awhile ago.
I think that anon left.
>>281296
Yep, a lady that's going to shower you in affection, showing every part of your body the attention it deserves and whispering sweet things into your ear.
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No.281302
>>281299
You mean an extraordinary amount of affection? Like letting you suckle off her breast and calling you a good boy while she strokes your hair?
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No.281303
>>281302
After my own heart, are you? Of course. She'll find it absolutely adorable to have you suckle on her ample teat, while she calls you the sweetest thing she's ever seen. In fact, not only will she run her soft fingers through your hair, but she'll also use her free hand to jerk off your hard, throbbing cock. If you're into lactation, we could do that too.
Do you mind posting a burner or something?
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No.281306
>>281304
>I just like to tease you because I'm evil and mean
Then I must be a masochist, because I love it. Please, do it more.
I'll be around.
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No.281317
>>281298
>You are addicted. Why would you continue to do it if you don't feel like doing it anymore?
Originally, I was going to write a long, detailed post, but I think you're right. After some more thinking, I decided that I don't want to do erotic roleplaying anymore. I know I'm coming off as a massive faggot, but I don't want to tell all my current partners that I don't want to play anymore and delete all of my characters, only to come back a few days later.
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No.281332
>>281299
>What makes you say that?
A lot of the users on F-List aren't cool enough.
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No.281333
>>281299
Nayrt but in my experience (note that I rarely play with feminine partners so it's more passive ad observation/seeing them in public OOC chatter rooms than anything) most shemales aren't into shemale on non-femboy, hyperdominant, not interested in sappy stuff (or at least not with men), or some combination of the above
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No.281347
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No.281349
>>281347
I just haven't had anything to say, Anon
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No.281351
>>281349
That's an attractive male. Where's he from?
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No.281352
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No.281356
>>281352
Thanks. I don't know why, but I want him to have wholesome sex with one of females really bad.
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No.281358
>>281356
No problem! It's probably because he's just a big, stoic dork who needs someone to help him open back up after his Tragic Past™, the ideal character for nice intimate tantric comfort sex.
Unfortunately, being considerate to canon options are limited to the protagonist (who's pushed too hard with her childhood friend and feels too much like found family for me to get behind it) and the naked mole rat mayor, who's… in her 90s, so not people's first choice for porn. In terms of yaoi Alan is pretty solid for brutal hatefucking, though.
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No.281376
Where do people ERP nowadays? I guess Flist is still around but I used to use a bunch of different websites that all seem beyond dead now. Is it just Flist and various discords?
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No.281417
Why do my subs keep calling me daddy? Is this an american thing?
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No.281442
Why do so many players on F-List seem to have something against males? I know there are trash players that play males, but I'm willing to argue shemales are worse.
t. Person that plays pinks into men.
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No.281443
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No.281521
>>281442
Consider the following points:
>A large (>70%, I wager) amount of the ERP community is men
>A large amount of these men are straight
>Due to this, female characters get a free pass where male characters would not
>Of the amount of straight men, a considerable amount give up on fucking their cute anime waifu as a blue (due to the above cycle) so they make a profile to play *as* the waifu as a last resort
>Naturally this makes them extremely picky when interacting with males because they're looking not for someone to complement their character, but for someone they can self-insert as; this is what causes them to spontaneously drop people out of the blue due to some minor gripe
>This makes things harder for future blues, who end up making pinks of their own after enough rejections, etc etc, and after enough cycles you end up with a population that is mostly females and shemales (played as normal women but with dicks, to get away from the subconscious "eww gay" in the mind of a straight male roleplaying as a woman)
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No.281547
How do I give and receive the good succ?
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No.281605
For the anons into them, how do you write breast and/or cock/ball smothering? I just don't know how to handle writing these topics.
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No.281611
>>281333
So people on F-List just have bad taste?
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No.281612
>>281605
>>281547
For both of these ideas, you should focus a lot on the sense of touch. Not just texture but also heat, moisture, pliancy, and the general sense of space. There's a difference between "played with his balls" and "slathered every tender wrinkle in a glistening river of warm bubbling spit". Know your partner's anatomy in the literal and biblical sense to really make them feel appreciated - especially if they have specific anatomical traits to make them stand out (apart from size, this can include the quality and color of skin, the presence of vascularization, volume and weight, smell, etc). And you can always mix it up if you're ambidextrous, playing with other parts of the body while the mouth gets to work.
And if you're on the receiving end, react with your whole body as well and remember that you usually have a lot of freedom to move otherwise. Petting, caressing, or holding down are all good cues to tie to specific motions to encourage your partner. You can guide them in this fashion by describing heat, tingling, and twitching from parts that have not been tended to yet. Or just use good old fashioned verbal communication to order or encourage them along.
In short it's actually about a loop of give-and-take rather than any one crazy trick. Understand what your partner focuses on and how you might direct their attention in an appealing manner.
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No.281615
>>281611
Yes, unironically.
Most shemale players never ever mention their character's feminine features because they are just playing men with tits.
Look at the amount of shemales that refer to themselves as "Daddy"
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No.281633
What do you anons do when you find art you really want to use, but you can't figure out what kind of character to make? Basically, how do you find inspiration?
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No.281634
>>281633
Picture that character doing something in your head. What are they doing? What's the environment? Do they like it, or not?
Failing that random generators kek
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No.281664
what does Bad End mean in an erp context?
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No.281665
>>281664
Bad ends in ERP are just like bad ends in any other medium, irreversible/inescapable consequences for one or both characters that brings their journey to a stop.
I guess one difference is that it can be either the theme/premise of a scene or the ending of one; as long as it's framed as the 'end of the line' for the victim you can absolutely cut to the chase and just play out the events after they're captured/enslaved/brainwashed/whatever it's still technically bad end play. To me at least.
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No.281707
My heart hurts… can ERP mend my broken heart? Is it a substitute for love?
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No.281713
>>281664
What
>>281665
said, but I would add that it doesn't necessarily mean the end of the story, depending on the context. You might have one person playing a serial killer character and the other playing out various Bad Ends for their victims, for example, but the story of the killer continues on. Or in some circumstances, you might even turn a Bad End around with something like Stockholm Syndrome. It really does depend on the context and the people playing, but it normally at least includes dark themes and someone suffering in some capacity.
>>281707
No. It's important to keep fantasy and reality completely detached. Don't get too emotionally invested in any erp, or you'll end up going off the deep end
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No.281715
>>281707
No, but it can break it more.
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No.281716
>>281707
No. Use it as a masturbatory aid, use it as a writing exercise, use it as just something to do, cautiously use it as escapism, but whatever you do don't use it as a means of dating.
It's fine to make friends if you find you get along with them and have something in common beyond just typefucking, but if you go in with the mindset in your post and let yourself get romantically involved OOC you'll just get hurt again one way or another. Especially given that by nature you shouldn't know too much about your partners anyway.
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No.281717
>>281707
it can be if you erp with me bb
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No.281752
what else can i use apart from "x moaned"?
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No.281756
>>281752
Other than moan, your character can grunt, growl, gasp, yelp. You can also do onomatopoeia in quotation marks. "Mmnf," "mmn," "fuck!" etc.
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No.281758
>>281752
>I moaned as I took the penis into my vagina, indulging in every meaty thrust…
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No.281859
>Have a character that has existed for months
>The art references I've used are "close enough", not 100% consistent with each other
>This has always bothered me
>Find art of a canon character that fits well enough with my character, and at least the art will be more consistent
>Have played with people before and have a small amount of bookmarks on the character
>Also the breast size will be way smaller
Should I just bite the bullet, change the art and accept I'm going to lose partners?
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No.281860
>>281859
Change the art and just tell current partners that you can still use the old art for them
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No.281862
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No.281875
How likely am I to find play with a tall, strong male that could take care of and touch penises with traps?
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No.281876
>>281875
That is not as unpopular as you think. A lot of guys playing males will fuck anything as long as it has 01 holes and looks girly
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No.281930
How's Twatter for ERP as an anon? I'm kinda tired of having to constantly create blue name avatars on F-List and constantly have to look at dudes' cocks just to get some decent references so maybe I can get a chance at playing my fetishes.
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No.281970
Have any of you ever had the desire to roleplay with people IRL after doing it online for so long?
I realize that I'm delusional and it would probably not even be fun and possibly gross, maybe I'm just desperate for contact.
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No.281982
>>281970
There are many forms of offline roleplay, and some people genuinely do have a fun time with it.
Tabletop RPGs are considered fun by some people. You sit around a table and roleplay mostly by talking and using your voice. You could do this and not physically have sex.
BDSM often contains roleplay. People there roleplay not only with their voice, but do physical actions to match. One example would be pupplay, where one person would pretend to be a dog (with some level of abstraction) and the other the dog's owner. Normally, you'd have physical sex along with the roleplay. Another example would be roleplay between a sadist and masochist. Perhaps the sadist roleplays being a police officer, to provide roleplayed context to beating up his sub. While he's not a police officer, the beatings and sex are real.
Good luck!
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No.282017
How do you approach people? Send a long, detailed description of what you're looking to do, or something shorter and more general?
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No.282018
>>282017
If you're doing F-List shittery, expect to get ghosted often no matter what you do. I've found the best approach, however, is to just briefly prod at their interests that overlap with yours, like the KISS method: Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Don't spend too much time or effort making a post, because that's a wall of text that no-one wants to read first thing. For example, let's say your partner is into mcgurkins, so, you'd probably say something like…
>"Hey! I have a scene idea in mind, especially involving mcgurkins. Lots and lots of mcgurkins. And their mcgurkiny gurkins. And a bit of fucking your ass. Though I'd prefer to know if you're interested or not before just going on about it."
Simple, to-the-point, and short. Of course, this is not foolproof as F-List is a literal den of autism and you'll get ghosted if you so much as step on a crack on the sidewalk, but it's usually the best approach.
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No.282019
>>282017
Depends. If I know someone is online and active, I'll give them a short idea in F-Chat.
If they're offline or I don't know if they're actually active, I send a longer note, on F-List.
On MUCKs, I generally do IC public approaches, as that's considered normal. If not that, I might PM someone asking "Where is your character sitting or standing? If there's room, I'd like to have my character sit next to yours."
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No.282055
What's the least "anthro" kind of anthro you can think of? Or at the very least the most interesting, like a cool beetle or something? For whatever damn reason, I keep coming across people who look good to play with and then only take furries, but I don't wanna have to play a damn generic wolfboi #45233121 just to get some coochie.
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No.282059
does anyone know whatever happened to fiction.live?
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No.282063
>>282055
There's likely a fursona for most non-exotic species, but avoiding canines, felines, equines is an easy start.
Rodents and lapines are a mixed bag between Redwall fanboys and furry shit.
Avoid Hyenas unless you like herms/shemale dynamics.
Don't do hybrids unless you're actually going to bring the pros and cons of the combo up.
Insects are a love/hate issue- the ones into them are sparse enough you better get used to fishing for a good bit.
You could also try playing an aquatic that isn't an orca nor a shark, but it's a mystery how much play that would get.
Try to avoid species from recent furry movies/shows- you're going to have to sort through shitters if you use refs from Zootopia or BNA.
Break stereotypes- to a point. There are just as many giga chad big cats as femboy tigers, not being the epitome of a concept will be unique enough if you don't self-insert.
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No.282074
If you're playing males on your hub profile almost all the time, is it better to just set the hub as blue rather than genderless?
I get the feeling people see the yellow color and instantly assume "he's too lazy to even fill out his profile".
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