No.2036 [Last50 Posts]
In this thread people come up with ways to create CHAOS in their lives.
Method 1.
When a bus drives past you, throw it with your mobile device.
Method 2.
Tell all your friends you got locked up in a mental hospital and disappear for a month.
Method 3.
Find a new addiction. Preferably something non-addictive.
Method 4.
Print some missing-posters with your face.
Method 5.
Try a career in politicks
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No.2038
>>Mod
Please merge this with existing threads (eg Operation Mindfuck)
>>2036
>1
Gainless vandalism isn't my style. You want the circle with the A, not the circle with the K
>2
They would believe me. Many of my friends have been committed before.
>3
I already have a bunch of those.
>4
Solid. Put up a missing poster of a shopkeeper just outside of where they work.
>5
I have morals AND unpopular opinions. Also I have a proper career to work on.
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No.2041
^the Jester's Thread is a better choice.
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No.2045
>>2038
Whadup with trying to organize everything and putting it in the boxes.
P.s. These methods are intented to chaotificy YOUR own life, no one elses, so it's entirely different topic.
as in
>1
You don't try to vandalise the bus but your arbitary part of soul, mobile phone, which keeps you connected to the power structure.
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No.2047
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No.2053
>>2047
tl;dr
thesemethods
of
CHAOS
are
no
good
because
shit
you
are
throwing
around
may
hit
you
too.
You inconsiderate pricks.
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No.2054
I think it's high time Discordianism gets some reworks. As we all know, Chaos consists of the illusion of Disorder and Order.
The world is already far more disorderly now than it was when the Principia Discordia was released. Children aren't raised with manners anymore, nobody of the young generation goes to church. The western world is an individualistic hedonistic mess just like everyone foretold.
I say we turn this shit around and stay the counterculture of whatever it is that's currently going on.
The new shit-ass fuckfest nobody can dare even call literature written by the sodomites over at principiadiscordia.com obviously don't fit the mood. Liberty is out of style.
The POEE hierarchy has always seen fit to allow for new styles to join in and make a world for themselves.
I'd be for a more serious approach towards putting the Eristocracy to realization.
Hail Eris
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No.2056
>>2054
The world is becoming more orderly as well. Global surveillance, corporate surveillance, all that jazz. I can't remember the last successful political assassination by a civilian.
A superior goal is not to become serious, but to promote a better class of chaos (whatever you believe that to be).
Remember your counterculture is not mine.
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No.2057
>>2054
>>2056
Nobody said you can't just do whatever the hell you wanna do
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No.2060
>>2054
You might want to try fundamental christianity. Why would you wanna make discordianism behave exactly like fundamental christianity? After all, discordianism is religious actor, and in the religious realm there is little DISORDER balancing all the ORDER.
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No.2061
>any of that
>causing chaos
>>>/4um/
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No.2062
>>2061
So what do you recommend?
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No.2064
>>2060
Why christianity? There's plenty of other religions on this earth that are even moreso serious about their beliefs than christians.
It would be chaotic as all hell to take a cynical absurdist religion like Discordianism seriously, which is why I do it.
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No.2067
>>2064
And most of them are christian sects or cults.
Yes they make christianity at large more chaotic BUT at individual level they nail people to the floor to get them to stay in one place. Your heads high up in the clouds and you cannot see trees from the forest. There is NO discordian society. Just discordians who tend to stick apart for afforementioned reasons.
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No.2070
>>2067
Taking Discordianism seriously is the same as applying order to disorder therefore making the order disorderly to the disorder.
Order = Disorder and hypocrisy doesn't matter.
I'm starting a cult.
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No.2071
>>2070
So... which parts are you taking seriously?
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No.2072
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No.2073
>>2072
And still you want to choose Pentagon over Apple?
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No.2074
>>2073
No, I feel usually the Apple is chosen, so I want to try and choose chaos over pure disorder. As in, also include order.
I want both the Pentagon and the Apple.
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No.2078
>>2074
So you feel like people in this niche end up choosing chaos too often, which is not necessarily true, and try to offset it by going more orderly yourself, and accidentally end up going to the same direction most of the people do.
We really tried to help you...
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No.2079
>>2078
No, you don't understand.
There's a huge difference between chaos and disorder.
Chaos consists of both order and disorder. A lot of new-age Discordians tend to prefer Disorder over Order, while Chaos is formed with both.
It's irrational to neglect order, as you'll just get nonsensical gibberish if you do.
I don't want to embrace order or disorder, but chaos.
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No.2084
>>2079
Yea, ik. You are just reiterating words you red in some book.
What I was trying to say, that discordians see disorder as a balancing action for a reason. The church doesn't need balance, outside world does. The church is very ordely and balanced. Even decievingly so.
Have you heard about disorder disguising itself as order and vice versa.
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No.2085
>>2084
That "some book" happens to be the Principia Discordia.
It's recommended you reread it.
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No.2087
>>2085
I'm not either of you, but the Prinicipia says that the Principia is full of shit so piss off wanker.
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No.2090
>>2085
But for you to get the perspective to ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND the Principia you should really try and read:
Faust by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe,
Quran by Allah,
and Capital by Karl Marx.
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No.2091
That's a joke in bad taste!
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No.2093
METHOD 6.
Come out of the closet as a gay to your parents, and as a trans to your friends.
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No.2094
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No.2107
>>2090
When does capital get interesting? I started reading it the other day and it seemed hella boring and long.
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No.2108
>>2107
it doesn't, it's commie crap, why would you read a book about working by a guy that's never worked a day in his life?
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No.2109
>>2108
Since Discordianism is all about collective individualism (or some other hypocritic standard), what would the economy of the Discordian Society even look like?
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No.2113
>>2109
Discordianism NEEDS an ordely superstructure to leech from and to be against. Kinda like punk rock.
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No.2114
>>2113
so that's it? Discordianism is nothing but counterculture for the sake of being counterculture?
When the counterculture becomes the norm, discordianism would implode.
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No.2115
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>>2114
Did you expect a Discordian Monarchy?
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No.2116
I would revolt immideately if we ever got in power.
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No.2117
>>2116
Personally, I would found the Erisianism religion, a modern movement worshipping the interpretation of the Roman goddess Discordia as described in the holy text αρχής Ἔρις.
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No.2118
>>2117
You are fucking boring, come up with new deity already.
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No.2119
>>2118
Why?
Eris is perfect.
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No.2120
>>2118
>construction of an apparent dichotomy satirising arbritary contrarianism and Discordianism's fundamental self-inconsistency manifested through the portrayal of synonymous yet opposite paradigms
>"boring"
You must be fun at art galleries.
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No.2121
>>2120
Going around staring at paintings isn't exactly productive.
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No.2122
>>2118
The Romans called. They said they are sorry.
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No.2123
THERE IS NO GOD BUT GODDESS AND SHE IS YOUR GODDESS.
MAY YOU BE FREE FROM THE CURSE OF GREYFACE.
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No.2127
Excuse me, excuse me everybody.
Eris is black, Ronald Reagan was the devil and the government is lying about 9/11
Thank you for your time and goodnight.
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No.2128
>>2127
Shut up you nigger.
Eris is aryan as fuck.
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No.2129
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No.2130
>>2129
>implying the gods are same race as the people that thought them up
they are absolutely fuckin divine
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No.2131
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No.2132
>>2130
Greek pantheon is actually an erisian schism caused by Eris taking a tad too many magic mushrooms and developing side personalities. Also I can guarantee that Eris is black, like all the other Gods. White is the color of the Devil.
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No.2133
>>2108
Reading a book is automatically an endorsement of its author?
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No.2134
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No.2136
The concept of counter-culture is so mainstream it's laughable. That's why every second sociology/politics student self-identifies as marxist. That's also why the "new" counter-culture is conservative. Because people recognize the cyclical nature of life, but still cling to their utopianism of "if the other side would shut up all would be perfect". Every culture wants to be counter because the idea of david vs goliath is deeply entrenched and the fucking neo-liberalists are the slimiest motherfuckers on earth.
You guys want real chaos? Get into magick, learn words of power, spray-paint "secret" names and formulas, sigils and the like. You'd be amazed the changes a person goes through just by seeing one of these words once.
Alternatively, if that's too much of a hustle, just ask people "which colour will it be?" and watch their terror as you treat all of the colours, especially their favourite one, equally. I once told a corbynista that I don't consider the term "fascist" necessarily an insult because it just means that you have your shit together. She stared in confusion for a good while and changed the topic to "something something donald trump muh criminal" to which I said "Hillary became a multi-millionaire in office, I never knew the salaries of politicians go that high". Then I used the magic word "controlled opposition/dialectic" and told her how most major wars are financed and armed on both sides by the same party, how the Windsors are german, the Balfour declaration was adressed to lord Rothschild for the entering of the USA into WWI, Lenin was financed by germans, both Hitler and Mao were financed by industrialists, etcetc. Historia is our best friend in these things. The real enemy is the one who makes people think that you can choose either disorder or order, pentagon or apple. On that note I am also the enemy because I am also an accelerationist. The funny thing is, the eschaton never comes anyways so don't bother. Just have fun anons.
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No.2137
>>2136
>The real enemy is the one who makes people think that you can choose either disorder or order, pentagon or apple.
Signal boosting this. The game is meaningless if the ball doesn't get thrown back and forth.
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No.2138
>>2136
Don't believe in magick bullshit.
I think it's funny to bunch to bunch all countercultures up and take them to their extremes.
Do whatever's not greyface.
In the same sense i want to bring chaos to chaos and completely rework Discordianism to fit the modern niche.
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No.2139
>>2136
Accelerationism is stupid tho, it's mostly propagated by people who couldn't keep up.
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No.2140
>>2136
So you're saying that the Germans controlled both sides and still got conquered?
Eris heil. May she ruin all schemers.
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No.2141
>>2140
How the fuck are germans conquered, they literally run the EU now. Also, thinking that a german aristocrat would give shit about germany is a major oversight.
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No.2142
>>2138
>Don't believe in magick bullshit
Something only said by one who hasn't tried it properly.
>Do whatever's not greyface
Well yes but not infront of greyface's army unless you have a deathwish and like taking whatever psychopharmaka they prescribe you. You have to know the playbook to outplay them. Doing something that's not greyface is very greyface. Just like false-flags are very fascist even though it might contradict some principle of honour. Know yourself and the enemy; 100 battles, no loss. Know only yourself; 1 victory for 1 loss.
>>2139
~~~ I wouldn't say it's stupid, it's just the most basic worldview that goes beyond left/right. Everything is speeding up, thanks in massive parts to the internet, so trying to slow it down is a fool's errand. Intentionally speeding it up is discordianism anyways because the universe is on our side and the controllers can't keep up forever. And to be honest, in my opinion discordianism is rose-coloured satanism anyways, meaning it's for people who can't keep up with the objective reality of an eternal, inter-dimensional reality
>>2140
>the Germans controlled both sides and still got conquered
Sort of, but the brits controlled both sides by the same token and are being conquered. Also >>2141 is right in saying that the german kakistocracy doesn't give a fuck about the average german, just like in every other country. They just have to hide it more behind bureaucracy and propaganda because europeans in general but the germans in particular are heavily "psychically" and culturally connected.
You guys are fighting the good fight and I love you for that. Prometheus rising and the black iron prison set me straight and I wouldn't have found any of it if it wasn't for this board. That said, I discovered for myself how vast existence is. Our brains are like two-way radios that can, with the right tuning, truly reach into the ends of the world. You can have the same effects of literally any drug without having taken the drug. Magick is absolutely real and dangerous af if you're not careful. The truth is that life is more real than you believe. Demons, angels, aliens, past lives, all of that stuff is already real and can be accessed by each of you. Don't leave the most powerful tools ever to have been created, to the world controllers. Look at the occult symbolism of those rothschild parties and tell me that it's all "just for fun". Black suns in every second netflix production, just chilling in the background, sun vs moon, prometheus, rabbits, owls, horses. No fucking way. All of these things have esoteric meaning that is deliberately hidden to ward off tourists like me lol The way of the universe is expansion and integration. Multiplicity, adversity, whatever you call it. The abyss can be your best friend if you know how.
And besides, if we're going by biblical mythology, Satan wasn't cast from heaven into hell, but onto earth. Meaning earth is hell by default. So why wouldn't you want to make a deal with the big dude? Read the game of life by Timothy Leary. Prometheus rising was based on that and RAW actually wrote some passages in that.
That said, hail Eris, ave Fortuna, salve Samael. Morituri te salutant.
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No.2143
>>2142
Sorry for being so preachy, I just feel like everyone who has found Eris is inherently not an greyface. And it drives me nuts to see good people waste their potential out of fear. One of the best pieces of advice I've ever heard came from the matrix. "Fear is the mind-killer". We're in this shit together so we should support each other. We are winning, and I am absolutely convinced of that. There are only so many spooks, and there's an infinitude of us. Bottoms-up not top-down. There are no muggles.
Now may I ask you for your support? Just suspend your disbelief and ask yourself whether you feel not think, feel like levitation is something you could learn. Then ask yourself why you feel that way.
in all honesty, I already have your subconscious support by you potentially even reading this, but your conscious support makes it infinitely more strong, your higher self knows the truth
Back to /fringe I guess, See you all on the barricades.
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No.2144
>>2141
>are
*were*
Their capital was taken and they surrendered (or were killed) and they all were at the mercy of the Allies. That is called being conquered.
But by doing so, they were given a blank canvas to rebuild upon with more modern knowledge, no legacy systems to slow them down like the victors had. They created a new nation from scratch, eg. well designed industrial factories, single unions for competing modes of transport so that they could settle arguments internally without striking, etc.
From the ashes rises the phoenix. Loss is victory.
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No.2145
>>2144
Oh you... Their capital was safely stored in Switzerland, and most of the allied leaders actually liked them more than the soviets so they shoved a massive amount of money in german economy, as if to thank them for mass murdering all those filthy slavs. That isn't conquering if you ask me.
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No.2146
>>2145
A land and its people are conquered. A king is simply replaced.
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No.2147
>>2146
I'd still use the word "liberated"
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No.2148
>>2145
For the record, I did mean capital city (Berlin).
Then there was the stasi crap to build character. Honestly Germans are insanely resilient. You could kill every single one and they would still come back and start an attempt to conquer Europe.
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No.2149
>>2142
It's not a choice between accelerating or slowing down, but choice on WHAT do you accelerate. This is what most who brand themselves as accelerationists tend to miss, and then they go on spewing nazi propaganda all over the walls and the ceiling.
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No.2150
>>2142
Greyface's army wouldn't stand a chance agains the Eristic Horde.
Safeguard the Eristocracy!
Assemble the Anarcho-Bureaucrats!
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No.2151
We have to accelerate, doesn't matter to me what, but I'll start throwing up if we don't enter the next phase soon.
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No.2152
>>2151
Seasons pass as the seasons do, try attaching rockets to the equator. REMEMBER TO CHECK THE DIRECTION!!!
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No.2153
>>2149
It isn't you're right. It is a choice however to be a general accelerationist, or a specified one. The nazi-propaganda accelerationists I would call "general" because often they're still part in one way or another of mainstream culture, through which they hope to disseminate their accelerationism. This is achieved through the simple inversion of the western post-WWII mantra "nazis evil" into "but what if nazis not-that-evil/good?", the mainstream's attitude of "if you're not 100% against (whatever is deemed fascist by authority) you're 100% fascist" into "if you're not anti-communist because Stalin and Mao, then you're anti-fascist/-capitalist/-western".
Ultimately the accelerationists' goals are anti-cosmic if left unchecked, which is why I try to be accelerationist when it comes to the most mainstream culture, but a demanifester-of-the-eschaton when it comes to stuff like this here, especially on /doomer/. Most of you won't make it into physical immortality, but the possibility of having one's name written into the grand book of deeds is here for all of us and I might aswell kill myself if I don't try atleast.
So do as yee saints and popes and holy cabbages alike have done alike for millenia, and sow some fucking chaos. On anonymous places like the chans of course, but especially on the greyface outlets. Salvation through confusion seems about right looking at the state of the world, Eris loves us
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No.2154
>>2153
Spreading too much chaos causes one to be seen as a non-serious lunatic.
I'd suggest building up a decent reputation before you start making a mess of things.
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No.2157
>>2154
I prefer sowing chaos. You don't just throw seeds on a field and expect a crop to grow. You have to plant that seed in the right place at the right time.
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No.2235
>>2153
You're a pony rucker, aren't you?
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No.2242
>>2235
I would like to concur.
>>2153
Does sound like something a pony rucker would say.
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No.2246
>>2157
What a nice orderly metaphors you got. What next, you gonna "build" chaos? You missed the point.
Chao isn't something you make happen or control. Chao is a train that runs you over when there's no tracks. Chaos just sit there, and all you can do is PRAY that you aren't the next poor soul who gets crushed under a box of mining equipment fallen from an unlicensed helicopter.
Eris isn't your waifu. Discordia ain't nothing to fuck with. She WILL kill you, if that's what she's up to. Most of the time it just seems to be more amusing to get you locked into a mental asylum.
Anyways, to the point. You aren't sowing shit. You are trying to tell Eris what to do.
So. Does She seem like some broken submissive little girl you can boss around?
Or should you start trembling from fear?
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No.2247
>>2246
I don't see chaos as a malicious force in itself but rather the way of things. You never have control over it. It's the luck of the draw from the way things go for yourself. Chaos is just and fair. Takes and gives as she pleases.
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No.2249
>>2247
You're right, she isn't malicious at all. She just don't give a fuck if you die now or later. You have no more innate value in your exisentence than a dead rat has. People just have this delusion, where everything that doesn't value their life is "not good" easily transformed as "bad".
But in the common sense of justice, there is none. Chaos doesn't treat everyone equally. Or it does but it doesn't. Or is doesn't but it does. I DON'T FUCKING KNOW.
You are still wrong. I don't know about what anymore, but fuck you for having different thoughts than me!
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No.2250
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No.2256
>>2235
>>2242
roni pucker, oh baby!
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No.2257
>>2246
>You are trying to tell Eris what to do.
Not at all. I'm doing what SHE suggests to ME, as long as it sounds like fun.
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No.2258
>>2257
>Eris isn't your waifu
You are talking to yourself
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No.2259
>>2258
We are all talking to our self.
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No.2260
>>2258
Actually I think he was talking to me.
My last post was about twenty up the page but I'm still pretty certain about it.
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No.2261
>>2258
You haven't tuned your pineal gland in to Her wavelength yet?
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No.2267
>>2261
What you think is your pineal gland is actually a malfunctioning government microchip, that overheats and explodes if you ever end up thinking too hard.
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No.2268
>>2267
I hit that with a power drill years ago.
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No.2269
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No.2270
>>2268
Yes I know. I'm the one who had to come and fix the fucking thing.
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No.2271
>>2270
Looks like it's time for another Black & Decker trepanning, then.
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No.2273
>>2271
Go ahead. Every time you do that I get paid to come over.
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No.2274
>>2273
Then quit complaining.
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No.2275
>>2271
>tfw no trepan gf
>>2269
Out of all the people likely to kill me, she is by far the coolest.
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No.2280
>>2275
The greyfaceeler's cut only destroys the gemstone if it's flawed. Eris's attention will only kill you if you aren't Thinking For Yourself, Schmuck.
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No.2281
>>2280
Ah, a new fordwilter! Ail Harris!
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No.2282
>>2117
I can't find anything about this "αρχής Ἔρις" at all, but I'm very interested.
Eris deserves temples and a big following.
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No.2283
>>2282
>I can't find anything about this "αρχής Ἔρις" at all
That's because I haven't written it yet.
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No.2284
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