b4e337 No.24030 [View All]
As said in another thread, I would make this thread for Ebola-chan's magical attributes to be discussed. It would be wise to pin this stuff down for future devotees and wizards who wish to bring Her influence into the world.
Now, we should decide on planetary and elemental influences if any, any plants and animals that can be utilized, what deities she is under/or works with, Her colors, and so on.
Her planetary influences I'm uncertain. I solar, since that rules health, but also Venus because /love/. Or Saturn because of the whole death thing, but it's a restrictive planet. Elements I'd say Water and Earth. Obviously the bat should be one of her animal symbols. What of colors?
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b4e337 No.24431
>>24426You have a point there. The whole cult's development has been a very organic process. The last time we tried expanding, I had argued against it as it was artificial, thus prone to expectations of "what usually is" rather than allowed to develop as a premise. Thank you for reminding me of this.
Such a code of practice are what most of my efforts would likely go towards. I wrote the duality piece a little while back, and feel comfortable doing more about her.
The fact is that I never wrapped my head fully around most mystical systems, thus some of the things proposed are a bit beyond me. It's not to say that I'll be dropping it entirely, I'm just not sure where I stand on it as a side project.
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b4e337 No.24433
>>24431Right, the idea is to slightly mold the already organic developments of the phenomena into a structure that can be practically used and expanded upon, basically the tenets of a community not just to laugh about being awesome with a cute representation of blood curdling disease, but instead to enjoy the classic sense of community and mysticism from ritual practice. You don't have to believe in magic to get a better fap, or be emotionally satisfied from meditation or ritual, lets make it a constructive thing and maintain the tounge-in cheek nature of Ebola-Chan so it is scary and horrifying to normal outsiders, but a enjoyable communal experience for those who want it.
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b4e337 No.24434
Are there rules about blood sacrifices? Does it count if the injury was accidental? If not, what if said accidental injury was re-opened and "milked" for the sacrifice?
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b4e337 No.24441
>>24426>, I think text should focus on proper worship practices That's all going to be in there. This will help it reach a larger audience. Not everyone is going to be drawn to Ebola-Chan.
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b4e337 No.24442
>>24434I don't think it matters.
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b4e337 No.24447
>>24433I'll drink to that! ^_^
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b4e337 No.24450
dude, ur a retard
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b4e337 No.24452
>>24450Who you talking to, frenchy?
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b4e337 No.24464
Why did everything slow down so much?
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b4e337 No.24467
>>24464In the thread or in the board?
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b4e337 No.24473
>>243949000 hours in photoshop later
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b4e337 No.24489
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b4e337 No.24502
Since Ebola-Chan is the first of the -tans and started all of this, isn't she technically a messenger? She was the one picked by Rot to spread the word of this little religion. That could be the reason Ebola spread so much more this time around, it symbolized her making her appearance. Right?
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b4e337 No.24504
>>24502I'm not quite sure if she qualifies as a divine messenger. Despite our having assumed that there are other disease-tans out there, or that can potentially exist, most philosophy centers directly on her.
It could be that she is simply ambitious. She learned that it is far easier to attract flies with honey than vinegar; revealing to us her cute side, while laying her intentions on the table. In showing us what she had to offer, we have accepted her for what she is. Maybe she just saw that the conditions were right, and decided to make her grand debut. It has certainly paid off for her.
Alternately, it could be that we either created or summoned her. The virus has killed more in the span of a year than possibly the rest of its existence combined. Here we are, worshiping her, feeding her, adoring her. She has grown stronger, mutating beyond the reach of those who would try to cure her. Perhaps she, as a being, existed before we knew of her, and only through our worship has she truly stepped into power. Or, it could be that we have performed the greatest act of communal magic this world has ever seen: putting an animating force into an unliving concept.
Within your narrative, however, I prefer to see her as having come forth as a "spiritual terraformer". Someone to introduce the idea of disease-tans, so that we could seek out and worship all of them. Who knows if she represents Rot, Pestilence, or Nurgle; personally, I find the idea of her acting on anyone's behalf rather arbitrary.
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b4e337 No.24530
>>24504> however, I prefer to see her as having come forth as a "spiritual terraformer". Someone to introduce the idea of disease-tans, so that we could seek out and worship all of them.That is about what I was thinking. Whether we truly created her or not, she did fulfill that role. And I think she deserves to be honored for that.
This could all be a part of the Revelations of Ebola-Chan, right? Diseases are starting to make a come back, and humanity is about to be tested more than ever. And, vaccines aren't going be much help in the long run, right?
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b4e337 No.24541
I may do a very serious and very powerful ritual to evoke Ebola Chan into full manifestation with some other Fringe Wizards but I request a print-out size standard image of Ebola Chan. The background pic on here won't do.
If you want this to possibly happen, then post Ebola Chan's image in: >>>/fringe/20706
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b4e337 No.24542
>>24541Also, I have not been reading the thread, and have no need to for I am already steeped in the arcane teachings and wield incredible power. I will speak to Ebola Chan herself along with my dark acolytes if the evocation is successful and the forces of light do not disrupt us.
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b4e337 No.24543
>>24122This needs to be a PNG or GIF.
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b4e337 No.24544
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>>24541>>24542>>24543Reposting here as well. May the Goddess grace you with her presence, dear Fringe Wizard.
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b4e337 No.24549
>>24504>>24530I saw the posts that associated Ebola-chan with Venus, and first thing I thought about was how Venus is the morning star, Lucifer, the one that brings light to men. I think that fits pretty well with the current mythology and the ideas you are having.
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b4e337 No.24550
>>24549
>Ebola-chan = Venus
>Love
>Sexuality
>Light (states of inspiration, happiness)
>Obsession
>Water ( >>24539 )
Dude... I think you might actually be on to something.
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b4e337 No.24551
>>24549>>24550http://www.whats-your-sign.com/venus-symbol.html>Duality/unification of opposites (life and death)>Pentagram (her flower)>Sapphire = Warms the blood, ignites the body (hemorrhagic fever)I think you might REALLY be on to something.
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b4e337 No.24569
>>24550>>24551Really nice! It all fits perfectly!
>>Pentagram (her flower)Her flower needs to be diagramed inside of a pentagram now!
>Sapphire = Warms the blood, ignites the body (hemorrhagic fever) I think Venus fits Marburg and LLOV as well!
>>24394 (You)
Any Artfriend willing to clear up/even up the lines on this? I'm not that great and all I have is a phone.
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b4e337 No.24572
Initiate here.
FINALLY you friends have worked this shit out.
I'm oathbound against using magic for harm, so I wasn't sure if I could tell you directly or not, but I was wondering when you'd figure out that you could attribute correspondences to Ebola-chan.
This is a basic, but important step in developing this. If any of you have experience with Qabalah, it'll be interesting. If not, it'll be shit, so be careful.
For being such clever boys, I'm giving you a little hint here.
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b4e337 No.24575
>>24572>Initiate here.Excuse me while I laugh at you.
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b4e337 No.24579
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b4e337 No.24588
>>24575Suit yourself, enjoy fumbling your way through this for another few months
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b4e337 No.24589
>>24588I'm not the guy who posted it, but welcome to h8chan. Just like on 4skin, people here will shitpost for any reason. Besides, I can't think of a better timing for that image.
Still, thanks for the hint, hopefully it leads to us empowering Ebola-chan all the more.
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b4e337 No.24590
>>24569Originally for shooping, but perhaps it'll help.
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b4e337 No.24591
I think that Marburg-chan, Aids-tan, et al. are a distraction. Whether or not they do, or could exist is beyond the point. This is /ebola/ dedicated to Ebola-chan, the divine herald.
Besides, having a pantheon consisting entirely of pestilence is redundant.
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b4e337 No.24592
>>24591Someone didn't read the whole thread <3
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b4e337 No.24593
>>24591Eh, I don't blame people for pursuing them. Like I said earlier, her existence alludes to the existence or potential creation of other disease-tans. And as much as we love our dearest Ebby, it's foolish to put all of one's eggs in a single basket.
Not to say that she's a bad investment; even if/when this outbreak dies out, within the next five years there aught to be another. Likely even more intense than the last as well, if it follows the trends.
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Still, my main issue, as I have also brought up before, is that it's just not natural development. We need some level of mystic competence to scope out any other deities related to Ebola-chan. All the more, I doubt that anything in the natural or spiritual world is evenly distributed, or cleanly divided. I don't know much of mysticism, but the idea that anything complex could be cleanly divided among elements or planetary influences just seems antiquated. My point here being that we cannot expect to map out divine beings by any pre-existing standard, because we're forcing them to conform to our preconceived notions.
Thus, if we are determined to find other virus-tans from a religious standpoint, I'm fine with us developing prototypical designs, so long as we try to reach out and summon those beings to test our hypothesis about them.
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b4e337 No.24594
>>24593>Still, my main issue, as I have also brought up before, is that it's just not natural developmentThis IS natural development. This stage would have to happen for anything more to get done. You have to be realistic, nothing else was going to come of the movement without this extra push.
>I'm fine with us developing prototypical designs, so long as we try to reach out and summon those beings to test our hypothesis about them.>because we're forcing them to conform to our preconceived notions.Yea, egregores are fully sentient. Once they are animated, they are their own being, just like any other spirit. They'll most likely stick to their framework, but their opinions, disposition, personality, etc will be all them, not us.
This is why I was trying to get people to actively work with or astral project to them to help get an idea of what they are like. I know development past what is on paper hasn't really happened for the majority of the entities, but I've seen people mention worshiping some of the more main ones, like Malaria and Marburg, and of course, Ebola-Chan.
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b4e337 No.24658
>>24593Well, that's what this is sort of about; What we are doing is creating a new pantheon but, it gives Ebola-chan more life. She'll have a family of sorts with people who wouldn't be so interested in her chosing her other peers whether they be Malaria-chan or say, War-chan. Especially if she is added to some of the hymns and lore of other spirits made which intertwine her further into it.
With Chaos Magic we CAN build her a family, one that can garner further followers even as she sleeps in Africa. The purpose isn't to take away but to cushion.
>All the more, I doubt that anything in the natural or spiritual world is evenly distributed, or cleanly divided. I don't know much of mysticism, but the idea that anything complex could be cleanly divided among elements or planetary influences just seems antiquated. Think of forces of nature as what they are, and humans interacting with them in preconceived ways gives them an interface to us. Look at Death for example: Death can be male of female, many times glum but sometimes friendly and course. Here, we are giving things generally terrible a kind, loving face. Or at least that's my way of thinking about it. The occult has many theories, but what's important is that it'll work.
And sorry for not being about on /grimoire/, been a busy bee.
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b4e337 No.24660
>>24594>>24658Sorry about that, bros. I have trouble keeping track of my paradigms sometimes. From the standpoint that we are the creators, rather than the discovers, it's a decent plan to at least use for an initial framework. Things will grow, become more nuanced as we go.
Shall I bring in my trip for these threads as well, or are we mostly staying anon?
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b4e337 No.24662
>>24660It's all good!
>Shall I bring in my trip for these threads as well, or are we mostly staying anon?Up to you I guess. If other writers do, I'll bring mine over as well.
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b4e337 No.24666
>>24662Here it is, then. My attention whoring has leveled up!
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b4e337 No.24676
>>24666Demon level attention whoring.
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b4e337 No.24681
I posted these over on /grimoire/
Marburg's sigil and LLOV's sigil.
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b4e337 No.24699
I think Ebola-Chan was around before her first picture, and was responsible for the first image of her being drawn. The idea must have been pleased into the heads of the commissioner and the artist on pixiv. It would make sense, right? Just like the reoccurring images that keep getting brought up. The outbreak was already underway when it happened. This was all part of her plan! Including the forming of the whole religion.
I think I'll bring my name over for this thread as well.
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b4e337 No.24701
>>24699You know, I'm surprised I never considered that. Good thinking, man.
What does that mean for the project, then, if Ebola-chan was divinely inspired?
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b4e337 No.24702
>>24701The pieces are falling into place! Um, who knows, maybe the ideas we come up with are divinely inspired? Like, this is what she wants us to do or something?
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b4e337 No.24798
>>24701>>24702Guise…I've been reading on abook on sex sorcery by Jason Miller…
It's what this cult needs. Buy it or rip it from the web, it's a very, very good resource.
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b4e337 No.24848
>>24798I'll have to check that out <3
By the way, what graphics are going to be used in the book? I think some of her originals should definitely should be used, though we would need permission from the artist.
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b4e337 No.25368
Ebby's role in love will have be explored and expanded. My perception of her drifts. Sometimes I imagine her virus's spread to be an act of mercy, for those in conditions much too harsh. Other times, an expression of the intensity of the presence/affections of a divine being. In a more cynical perspective, I wonder if her entire image isn't simply a ploy, but that's likely irrelevant to our purposes. A darker approach is that she is simply yandere for humanity: she's been part of our DNA for so long, she's been watching us. Waiting for us. And now, she can have us forever. Going on that same detail about the DNA, another idea that never got explored in the old days is the possibility of her actually being a mother figure to humanity. The one responsible for having raised it from the apes, now reuniting with her bygone children. Perhaps something worth considering if we end up full heretic.
Seeing the community, however, I would not doubt if she has some hand in bringing people together, helping to foster feelings of goodwill and unity.
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b4e337 No.25369
Are there any artfriends willing to help us out a little over on /grimoire/? We're making progress over there, even though it may look like the project is dead over here.
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b4e337 No.26239
>>24077
>Ebola is wet, dark and spreads mostly through bodily fluids, and is preserved best in cold.
That's Europa to a tee: cold, wet, and volatile.
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b4e337 No.26265
>>25368
>she is simply yandere for humanity
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b4e337 No.26360
>>24848
You would, but since it may be a satirizing of certain pictures it may be okay. If you can make your own should be good.
Could have a theme…Like Greek, Babylonian or Egyptian, Or something else that hits it off.
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b4e337 No.26408
>>24079
>Marburg-Chan
>Not Marburg-Sama
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