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“Your existence is a momentary lapse of reason.”

File: 2f250dafdc05739⋯.png (117.26 KB, 2000x1499, 2000:1499, Arch-linux-logo.png)

 No.54094

I love this board, lets be more active, chummers.

Linux Thread! Windows is a botnet and everything Apple is gay.

Recommended Distros? I've been trying to get into Arch but I haven't actually done much with it as of yet.

Also post your desktops, your ricing, ricing tips, security vulnerabilities or whatever other gay shit you retards feel like posting <3

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 No.54095

I'm using debian but I'm tired of the old packages, so I'm thinking about switching to Fedora or maybe some more obscure distro. I love XFCE so whatever I'll try has to come with that.

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 No.54096

>>54095

I'm using debian with xfce as well, but I will go with arch when I get a new computer.

Most likely they will have drivers for gpu's, and with proton play, you can play a lot of games on steam.

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 No.54097

>>54095

have you considered switching to Debian testing? I've heard its pretty stable despite the name. Also recommend Fedora as a solid choice.

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 No.54099

Yea, I've installed lubuntu onto an older workhorse laptop and voidlinux on my gaming desktop.

Gradually moving away from distros compliant to CoC and systemd.

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 No.54100

Using NixOS here. Kinda rough on the edges yet, but fuck, I don't wanna go back to traditional distros. Declarative system managing just fucking expands my dong.

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 No.54106

>>54099

What's the problem with systemd?

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 No.54108

>>54094

>>54094

>I've been trying to get into Arch but I haven't actually done much with it as of yet.

Code for: I've to a Linux VM/partition but I never boot into it because I prefer playing triple A kike games. How about you fuck off back to reddit you degenerate faggot

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 No.54109

>>54095

switch to debian unstable. it's a rolling debian with recent packages. and before you cry about the unstable part: it's what ubunto takes for its base

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 No.54110

File: d605ce913dac135⋯.png (146.74 KB, 850x400, 17:8, ghandi-compiler.png)

>>54097

debian testing is shit you dumb fuck. read their FAQ why you shouldn't use it. it's literally the worst of both worlds: ass old packages and bugs that don't get fixed for weeks/months. if you want a debian with recent packages go to debian unstable which is more stable than testing. read debian foundation's FAQ if you don't believe me you dumb kid. holy fuck, just fuck off and get an ipad. tablets were made for techno illiterate scum like you

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 No.54116

>>54106

>What's the problem with systemd?

systemd has replaced the init on most Linux distributions. "It represents a monumental increase in complexity, a slap in the face to the Unix philosophy, and its inherent domineering and viral nature turns it into something akin to a 'second kernel' that is spreading all across the Linux ecosystem.

Read More: https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

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 No.54117

>>54116

also binary logfiles wtf

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 No.54119

I use Slackware because when I first started using Linux in the early 2000's it was one of the the only distros that seemed viable with a slow and frequently down internet connection (full install came with most software you would need, documentation, how-tos, etc.) and I've distro hopped a lot over the years and gotten a better connection but I always come back to Slack. In it's day it was known for being easy-mode Linux simply for having an installer. Now it's one of the least convenient distros, but the simplicity of the system makes administration so much easier. If you know how to compile software from source and can make simple bash scripts there isn't much in Slackware that can stump you, and no distro specific tools or defaults that might step on your toes. It makes Debian stable look bleeding edge but outside of a few packages, I don't really care.

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 No.54129

Ubuntu and it's derivatives are the closest to just werks you'll get if you haven't used Linux before and don't intend on spending all day in the command line.

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 No.54130

gentoo with fvwm here

just werkz

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 No.54134

>>54116

WHy is it spreading everywhere though?

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 No.54137

>>54134

Redhat and current/former RH employees making it a hard dependency in their software (examples: Gnome3, udev, logind) and distro maintainers maintainers being lazy. When systemd was first released there wasn't really a way to do cgroups, daemon management and socket activation in a unified and straight forward way, plus sysvinit was still only single thread at that time so systemd boot times were much faster. For those reasons systemd was semi-attractive, but people weren't satisfied in some of it's retarded defaults and general instability. Shortly after release though many alternatives popped up like upstart and openrc. This is when the unnecessary hard dependencies started showing up, to maintain the momentum systemd had gained. I think once Debian adopted systemd it was pretty much over and the more aggressive feature creep began.

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 No.54143

File: 88fa1abd1a63812⋯.png (34.21 KB, 964x580, 241:145, foo.png)

systemd a shit

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 No.54158

>>54130

Honestly Fuck Gentoo.

I have used it on and off for years. Gentoo sucks because shit arbitrarily breaks, and fixing becomes a nightmere, and various packages fail to build. What finally put me off it for good is Anki not running properly because of some horrific bug in QtWebKit (which is itself suckful software), that wouldn't go away with even rebuilds of qt*. Of course , I was using testing qt* because I needed it for various other packages that still haven't left testing. Also Firefox never once built successfully. The meta distribution idea is awesome, but the difficulties in practice are not worth it. Thats probably why linus uses fedora.

I liked FreeBSD's make world , but, hate the lack of software for *BSD.

OpenBSD is a meme. Currently no MAC system, but high quality code, little to no software available. Compiling anything discouraged.

I am currently using Kali simply because openVAS actually works in Kali.

Arch might be the best distribution I have ever used.

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 No.54187

File: cd52d521683e377⋯.png (1.93 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 2019-01-07-1546856424_scre….png)

I use arch linux btw too

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 No.54188

File: e0e48cc092bf716⋯.png (1.48 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 2019-01-22-1548171574_scre….png)

>>54158

>Arch might be the best distribution I have ever used.

I wouldn't say best. It's just the distro that installs the least amount of bloat shit while not going full retard autism like gentoo.

I don't really like arch because of all those arch memes. I like it because I can get a minimal base system up and running and add to that.

With other distros I always spend a shitload of time to find out how to throw out their bloat and fight their idiosyncrasies.

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 No.54191

File: eb292fd20176ff3⋯.jpg (135.4 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>54188

>I don't really like arch because of all those arch memes.

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 No.54193

>>54158

>shit arbitrarily breaks, and fixing becomes a nightmere

Usually when something breaks, it's because some maintainer was too lazy to specify the correct USE flag dependencies, and this tends to get fixed fast for important packages. Otherwise you can simply look at the compile error and figure out what USE flag you miss. Other times, it's because you need the latest version of a package and it's considered unstable (e.g. Vulkan support in SDL2). In any case, if you develop the good reflexes, you get it fixed in minutes most of the times.

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 No.54196

>>54187

anon, can you write what are you using? ricing and other stuff? i'm new to linux, so it will mean much to me

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 No.54200

File: 695abcadda0aea6⋯.jpg (642.14 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, parrot-splash.jpg)

Everybody knows Parrot / kali is the most schway

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 No.54201

File: 1c6f8ba8f90c8b4⋯.png (569.11 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, bg.png)

>>54200

Thats a high sierra schway BG chummer

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 No.54204

>Linux

The system is called GNU/Linux

https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html

>Recommended Distros?

I'm going to use GuixSD, because it's fully free, official GNU distribution, also the devs care about security. It has a cool functional package manager, that can handle reproducable builds. Also there are efforts to create binary bootstrapping for GNU/Linux and programming languages.

https://gnu.org/s/guix

http://bootstrappable.org/

It gives you security and freedom in dangerous cyber world.

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 No.54249

>>54204

>The system is called GNU/Linux

no, it's not. just because in the early 90s the GNU project made some userland tools available for a new linux based OS doesn't mean they have 30 years later the claim to adding their GNU before linux. no one uses GNU stuff anymore. except a few userland tools there are no popular GNU projects anymore. just because it's licensed under the GPL doesn't mean it's a GNU project. so stallman has no claim to name linux GNU/linux.

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 No.54256

>>54249

>except a few userland tools there are no popular GNU projects anymore.

>a few

https://www.gnu.org/software/software.html

Protip: GNOME is part of the GNU Project. It is used in most GNU/Linux desktops. So is GRUB.

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 No.54272

File: 92a5b590cb80b15⋯.jpg (258.49 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 72a91bf425983d2b6a6b29fcc0….jpg)

The lack of gentoo in this thread is dissapoint.

Atom 1.66ghz eeepc

No meltdown/spectre due to inline cpu arch.

2gb ram

Linux-gnu-unofficial-grsec-4.20

icewm

libressl system wide

>tfw ethernet requires blobs but not wifi

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 No.54282

>>54249

>no, it's not. just because in the early 90s the GNU project made some userland tools available for a new linux based OS doesn't mean they have 30 years later the claim to adding their GNU before linux.

There where no linux, when GNU was started. They even had and still have their own kernel - the Hurd, but Linus had been persuaded to free his kernel (because it were proprietary), so Debian guys used it to create first GNU/Linux distribution.

>so stallman has no claim to name linux GNU/linux.

He doesn't call the kernel GNU/Linux, but the system.

Just because in the early 90s Linus Torvalds made a kernel available for the GNU system doesn't mean he has 30 years later the claim to adding his linux without GNU :)

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 No.54283

>>54200

Wasn't Parrot going to migrate to Devuan? What happened?

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 No.54291

>>54200

>Kali

Only if you use it for the intended purpose, otherwise you've got an insecure distro equivalent of problem glasses and putting an RFID implant in your hand so you can open your phone without a password.

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 No.54450

File: 412f6ae3a761566⋯.png (3.04 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, Screenshot from 2019-02-07….png)

rate me

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 No.54452

File: 12d96a56ccb5e50⋯.jpg (290.2 KB, 2000x2000, 1:1, eli0t.jpg)

>>54143

Jesus Christ that uptime. Don't you need to reboot for most packages to use the updated version?

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 No.54466

>>54452

Not most. Most packages run their updated versions as soon as you reboot that program itself, but there are some specific services, libraries, or programs, that don't. The kernel is the most flagrant example: he has 4.11, which is fucking ancient for bleeding edge standards, as many distroes are starting to roll out Linux BlazeIt Release. That said, that anon is using a CubieBoard, so it probably is just a local home server he has I fucking hope not exposed to the wide net

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 No.54476

>>54283

http://archive.fo/UrFSR/image

To

http://archive.fo/ZuJFB/image

they considered it but decided against it unfortunately.

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 No.55199

Parrot can kiss my ass. Every DNS server they operate maintains LOGS. You know, VIOLATES PRIVACY and has records to hand over to whatever alphabet agency calls em up. Maybe if they gave up some of that log space they’d have more brain space for time to dedicate to SECURING their damn website. Ironic as Rice-a-Roni.

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 No.57435

>>54193

I wish I had that skill. I have been trying to move closer to source as I have grown with linux. Perhaps I will go back to using gentoo.

>>54272

水 gentoo meme.

>>54094

I am currently using Qubes. I'd like to learn more about the arch so I can build openbsd and gentoo templates.

Any of you guys ever go to Linux User Groups? I kinda want to go, but wonder if they are worth visiting.

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 No.57444

>>54137

systemd >a hard dependency in their software (examples: Gnome3

are you sure systemd is dependency for gnome3? guix system has gnome3 and doesn't have systemd

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 No.57445

>>54200

throwback to before docker killed pentesting distros

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 No.57446

>>54249

>the GNU project made some userland tools

<not knowing how OSs work

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 No.57447

>>57435

> have been trying to move closer to source as I have grown with linux.

guix is a better source based distro than gentoo

https://guix.gnu.org/

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 No.57914

>>54200

Great distro

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 No.57916

File: 37f477a683f54a3⋯.png (138.07 KB, 1280x800, 8:5, _icones.png)

I've been using Arch for some time now (can't distro hop anymore because of work). If I ever get a new computer or a hard drive I'll probably try Guix

Want to try dwm, st and all the other suckless shit too. maybe this weekend

if you work with server infrastructure or other tech related stuff, GNU/Linux is top tier, specially Arch, since you'll be messing with systemd and all that stuff all the time

Also installed Lubuntu on my dad's laptop some time ago, it's running pretty smooth. it's crazy how Windows fucks up a computer so bad that even after formatting and installing Windows again it's still shit. the laptop is pretty much just used by the kids to play on a SNES emulator.

I wish RetroArch was more intuitive, I have to change the games everytime because the kids didn't learn how to read yet

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 No.57930

>>54094

Currently use Pop!_OS, but thinking of getting an SSD for my laptop and putting on Artix. The install is surprisingly easy, which I didn't expect considering I had such a hard time installing Arch.

>>54095

>I love XFCE so whatever I'll try has to come with that.

You can use whatever DE you want on any GNU/Linux distro. I recommend Manjaro.

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 No.57959

Installed devuan for fun, main daily driver is Xubuntu 18.04. Gonna get a thinkpad with libreboot and arch, I really like pacman a lot

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 No.57960

Anyone used blackarch?

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 No.57979

linux mint

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 No.57987

>>57979

Based and mintpilled.

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 No.58051

>>57916

If your hardware is less than 2 years old you won`t be able to even get ethernet working on Guix. I gave up because of that.

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