No.47765 [Last50 Posts]
Couriers are /cyber/. They move everything from corporate bullshit and government documents to illegal drugs. I'm not going to post people I know so please, lets see what you've got.
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No.47767
>listen to /cyber/ advice
>get a courier job for a month
>drop my phone on the asphalt on first day, shattering the screen
>use paper maps
>use pen and paper for notes
>fill out paper forms
>carry bags of paper around the bedroom town whole day
>half of those bags are paper forms filled by other couriers
>get home too late and tired to even turn a PC on.
>my feet hurt
It was the most analog and non-cyber month of my life since I got my first computer.
Well, at least I was losing excess weight like crazy, needed whole new set of clothes by the end of it.
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No.47768
More so in the early 90s when they could be taking home the equivalent of $2000 per week. Now it's poverty tier and done by Indians on scooters and lifestyle tourist hipsters.
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No.47769
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No.47770
>>47768
>>47769
literally
cyber
af
Period.
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No.47771
>>47770
I know, right? Have a few more
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No.47772
>>47768
>>47769
>>47771
The walkie talkie (just realized what a retarded name that is) really sells the "high tech, low life"
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No.47773
>>47772
>just realized what a retarded name that is
Well in the 2way radio biz they are called "portables". A radio in your car is called a "mobile". And a radio in the office is called a "control station" or "base station" depending on the system.
Those portables would have talked back to high powered "repeater" up on one of the tall buildings. The repeater would have taken the little signal from the portable and repeated it across the whole city.
In the pre-cellphone days this was a powerful setup.
The only problem with it back then there was no practical encryption. So in high competition industries people would start speaking in code. Tow truck drivers where notorious for sniping each others calls this way.
Bootlegging or "booting" also happened back then in big cities. Unauthorized people would use a businesses repeater after hours or take over abandoned repeaters to talk to each other around town.
All you needed to know was the input/output freq and PL code to access the repeater.
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No.47774
>>47767
You don't sound like you knew much about riding bike and you also don't sound like you were in a community where couriers were heavily utilized.
You should try again sometime.
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No.47777
>>47773
Interesting, thanks
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No.47791
>>47773
Walkie-talkies are like retarded little brothers of portables. They have limited power, only few pre-selected channels and only work on "toy"-frequences.
So, ham-enthusiasts distinguish them into separate category, at least in my area.
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No.47793
>>47773
So a trucker CB would be like a high power walkie talkie since theres no base station or relays involved?
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No.47838
>>47793
Yep. except that legal cb's are limted in power.
Not that anyone runs legal power on cb.
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No.50497
This autists were cyberpunk before the subculture was even recognized and named.
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No.50498
>>47768
Was the 90' and 00' the most cyber era , wasn't it ?
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No.50500
>>50498
I think it was somewhere between the 80s and mid 2000s. After that, everything in the Internet became normie tier and people started giving away their info. The reality we live in its still very /cyber/ tough, just not the way the movies envisioned it.
This is actually a very interesting thread for me since I will become an authorized representative of a local cosmetic brand, so I will try to sell my stuff through the Internet and deliver it in a 3 to 4 km radius. I am already in a semi-athletic physique. Are there any tips you can give me?
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No.50501
I just remembered that many fictional universes use couriers as a way to avoid data theft, such as Faith (Mirrors Edge), YT (Snow Crash) and Chevette Washington (Virtual Light, pic related). This is not our reality and bike couriers are decreasing since you don't need to move many documents around in the digital age and there are better cryptography technologies
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No.50502
>>50500
Amway is a scam, Anon, as well as any other MLM scheme.
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No.50507
>>50502
stop kvetching, jew.
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No.50859
>>50501
That bike.. I don't know if it hurts my eyes, i'm dumb or the creator is dumb.
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No.50864
So… is the courier from Fallout New Vegas is cyberpunk?
I mean, ofc Fallout world is post-apocalyptic, but imagine that if FNV was not a post apocalyptic game, but more a dystopian world in an alternate timeline, where New Vegas is the city of Sin, the casinos make greedy deeds in pursuit of money, and you, the courier, was the man needed to transport the Planitum Chip to Mr.House, to let him achieve is plans? in a very Zaibatsu-esque way? (If you played FNV and sided with House, you probably knew what I mean)
IDK, I just find couriers to be cyberpunks.
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No.50867
>>50864
It was either couriers or caravans, since there's no proper postal service in that setting.
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No.51002
>>50864
If anything, Old World Blues is kinda /cyber/
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No.51051
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>>50501
> bike couriers are decreasing since you don't need to move many documents around in the digital age and there are better cryptography technologies
Good Moring, this iz ur bakeup call.
D Yearez 2021
It iz no logger safe 2 trainsmit in formation.
Fonez, Cumputerz, and Sata Lights are all vulnerable…
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No.51165
does /cyber/ like futuristic bikes?
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No.51168
>>51165
Oh hell yes.
>tfw no Maverick with e-Monolink conversion so I can switch to Super Pursuit Mode while in fleeing from the bad guys in the remants of a acid rain damaged forest near a city.
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No.51169
>>47769
>4th pic
>ControlTech Ahead stem
Was this taken in the mid 90s?
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No.51170
I used to do this, I was making slightly above minimum wage.
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No.51205
>>51165
no i like cheap bikes
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No.51504
>>50864
The setting determines the tone. Concepts can carry over between genres. Couriers are couriers– the methods may change, the goods may change, but the core of the job is always the same. Take a /cyber/ bike courier and throw him into New Vegas and he'll have to put on boots and grab a rifle. Take Courier 6 and throw him in 2076 Seattle and he'll have to get some chrome and a smartgun.
Alt version: apples. Apples grown in an old warehouse hidden in the city slums because real food is for the rich? That's cyber. Apples grown in a hidden orchard so the Baron's soldiers don't take their lawful portion? Similar, but not cyber.
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No.51515
Bicycles are surprisingly expensive, especially when you consider the types of people who ride them as a job, barely scraping by.
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No.54785
>>47765
>>47767
>>50501
>>51051
We are coming full circle, since everything can be hacked, analog systems are becoming more useful for peoples secrets. Couriers may have another renaissance.
a few years back we heard that intelligence services were reverting back to typewriters, new supercomputing makes most encryption techniques difficult to keep secret for long
sorry my pic is not bike couriers, but it still looks really cyberpunk because of faceless black clothed police on bikes
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No.54789
Bike couriers are NOT schway.
They require you bring your own bike, refuse to offer either insurance or a maintenance stipend, and still pay minimum wage to bike through the dead of winter at max speed even in -30*C at 70kmh winds.
Bike Courier companies are peak exploitative capitalism. They are garbage and anyone who supports them is garbage.
Bike couriers are no better than Uber and Foodora. In fact, Foodora started as a strictly bike-based service.
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No.54798
>>51515
Bikes require a minimum of tools to remain in good repair. They only require exotic tools or parts if you're planning on touring. Otherwise, basic maintenance is accomplishable with a multitool and two adjustible wrenches. You sound like a fucking scrub
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No.54824
>>54785
>a few years back we heard that intelligence services were reverting back to typewriters
Source?
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No.54826
>>50500
> After that, everything in the Internet became normie tier and people started giving away their info. The reality we live in its still very /cyber/ tough, just not the way the movies envisioned it.
Mainly because capitalism showed itself to still work, despite wet dreams about it's fall and turning everything into huge slums that some authors had in the 80s ans 90s. Just watch Johnie Mnemonic intro sequence and bullshit about "terminal capitalism".
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No.54827
>>54789
>marxism intensifies
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No.54828
>>50501
Most of these universes were invented by larping boomers on acid with zero knowledge of cryptography, they could not predict modern protocols and simultaneous omnipresent meatspace surveillance with live facial tracking. PGP and two computers for air gap exchange eliminate all made-up benefits of physical couriers, and with anonymous networks they give full anonymity of location or identity unachievable with bike couriers. All "cyberpunk" stories about epic hacker couriers doing their epic data deliveries for yakuza are obvious postmodernist masturbation filled with inside jokes about then contemporary society.
Modern bike courier is a corporate slave who does below minimum wage job fulfilling unhealthy diet choices of "middle" class cubicle rats.
>>54798
Without workshop equipment and spare parts you won't be able to perform decent repairs, and Uber doesn't provide those.
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No.54829
>>54824
FSB did this post Snowden
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No.54830
>>54826
>despite wet dreams about it's fall and turning everything into huge slums that some authors had in the 80s ans 90s.
this only happened in brown people areas and could of been a reality if not for mass white influx into urban centers in the 90s to 2000s.
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No.54831
I have one of these, surprisingly versatile small e-bike.
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No.54840
>>54830
>this only happened in brown people areas and could of been a reality if not for mass white influx into urban centers in the 90s to 2000s.
These countries are in far end of Index of Economic Freedom. behind even whole Eastern Europe, which are Post Soviet countries.
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No.55822
some guys are making/selling cargo-bikes made from ubiqutous alluminium tubes and I kinda like the aesthetic.
I swear there was a dedicated bike thread here, but I can't find it
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No.55828
How does one even get into courier work? I was thinking about doing private deliveries since im getting a motorbike soon but i have no idea where the fuck i'd start.
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No.55829
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No.55840
>>55822
this strikes me as a terrible idea since it likely would ruin the weight of the bike, hard panels mean it can't be expanded/contracted like bags can be* and products for slinging specially shaped bags under conventional bicycles already exist and are lighter, cheaper, and can be fitted and removed easily to carry in, get out of the way for bike repairs, etc.
also that shape overall is really wtf, why isn't it the profile of a normal bike? normal bikes are already made out of cheap aluminum or steel tubes welded together, what's the point of not observing the normal much more robust triangular geometry of normal bikes just because they're using square stock instead of round? the rear wheel isn't even mounted in a good spot, it should be at the lower corner, not in the middle of that cross-bar, so more of that bar can absorb impact instead of putting the load on the wheel's axle
all in all that bike looks like a shitheap and seems to give bad answers to questions that were already long since solved in much better ways
*that's why 99% of backpacks have those toggles on the sides that usually just get a bottle of hand sanitizer hung off them; it's not ghetto MOLLE rigging, it's to adjust the bag to make its contents snug)
>>55828
craigslist, tbqh my lad
i tried to be a courier a long time ago and while i didnt follow it up (the companies around had some pretty predatory/unfair policies, refused to insure bikes, didn't pay wages at all and paid only by delivery and at a flat rate, etc) i found them as normal jobs on craigslist
also while not really the same, food courier companies exist. google "foodora" you weirdo
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No.55844
>>55840
The whole thing is just nuts and bolts, no welding whatsoever.
Author says you can't make a solid connection with this unless you go with pic related arrangement, so overall shape ends up being all rectangular.
Also, he has the guts to claim copyright on this connection style, I'm not sure whether I should laugh or get mad
And the point to this seems to be /diy/-ness of the whole thing, so if anything breaks or you want to mod it, you can just buy needed parts from a local store, drill some holes and go forth.
There's a big manifesto-style web site attached to this.
Also, more bikes from their shop, but I don't quite like these ones.
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No.55845
>>55844
>The whole thing is just nuts and bolts, no welding whatsoever.
1. even with bolts over welds conventional geometry can be observed, and that geometry is conventional because it's fucking stronk
2. those basket bikes have been tried and are known to be shit, and are a still-used design for ice cream carts and the like (and i can say first hand that they are shit, i sold outta one when i was 14)
3. bike frames are cheaper than equivalent extruded aluminum, and bike frames are often steel too, and modern bicycles are largely modular in that gearing is spring-loaded, brakes are all hydraulic pr cable-driven and against discs that dont even need to be standardized because they're just 1/4" steel, gears are actually completely standardized in terms of space between teeth and that space being rounded, etc
4. DELETE THIS TRASH RIGHT NOW SHUFFLE THIS NIGGER SHIT OFF OUR VORTAL COIL
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No.55849
>>55845
Reclaim the means of production, comrade!
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No.55852
>>55849
>Middleburn cranks
RIP :(
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No.55912
>>47765
The pizza delivery guy in snowcrash had an automated superfast car and moved between domed enclaves
Couriers now use apps but still move on old bikes
Not cyber
>>47768
>taking home the equivalent of $2000 per week
Maybe a few ones working for bankers in nyc, it was always a poorfag job like pizzaboys
>>50501
You still need to move some documents, the real problem is that with the gig economy the supply outstrips demand so wages are low
>>51165
I like foldable ebikes I can take on the train, too bad those are expensive af where I live
>>54828
This applies to most of old-cyberpunk if you think about it. For example we might never have actual VR worlds because with moore's law going to shit we are about to hit a big bottleneck meaning processing power and graphics might see little or no improvement for years to come.
>>54831
Whats the range? speed?
>>55822
Link to specs?
>>55844
I would like a diy foldable bike
>>55849
Link plox
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No.55917
>>55912
>Link to specs?
I got photos here: http://www.xyzcargo.com/xyz-cargo-short-is-ready/
The only specs available is payload (60kg) and price (990 EUR)
I tried looking around their websites and even fb page, but found nothing more. fb page says payload is 50kg
>Link plox
I got photo here: http://blog.openstructures.net/pages/triangle-bikes
It has even less info attached to it than the previous one.
Sorry, it's all I have for you, chummer.
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No.55923
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