No.44091
I'm aware this may seem like a silly question, but I'm really curious. /Cyber/, would you consider Alex Jones as a cyberpunk? Before you answer, remember that he is against the establishment, he sees most corporations and government as corrupt and evil, he takes his agenda to the net and he is quite paranoid, all the qualities that make up a cyberpunk, with aesthetics aside.
So, out of curiosity, would you say so? Also, would the same go for wistleblowers like Assange and Snowden?
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No.44093
You should start forming your own opinion on these things.
>Before you answer, remember that he blah blah blah…
This reads like you already made up your mind, anyway.
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No.44097
>>44093
He wants a discussion, Jack.
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No.44103
I don't know too much about the guy, but I'd say so. Like a crazy cyberpunk underground newsman.
Just imagine listening to his stuff through your illegal radio transciever's earpiece while you're walking through the streets of a city or something, while thinking about the physical protections for the tech in your shithole apartment, and looking at the neon signs in the area to see if you can find a comfy bar to drink away your troubles in.
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No.44107
>>44091
Is he a cyberpunk? No. He's a part of the backdrop. In Deus Ex, he's the crazy guy on the radios you find everywhere. In The Sprawl, he's ranting on the streets to anyone that walks by. Whatever he says is crazy, crazy as hell, and nobody would ever truly listen to him except people equally crazy - and that's a pity, because there are a few things, just a small handful, that he's absolutely right about. And each of them are drowned out by the frenzied rants about chemtrails and lizardmen.
So in a specific way, he's cyberpunk, he's just not a cyberpunk.
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No.44109
>>44093
44097 is right. I made this thread for an ongoing discussion. I included my input as pure observation, to help get it going.
Basically, don't assume people's positions. ;)
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No.44125
>>44109
>don't assume people's positions
Just using the words you typed out. And comparing him to Assange and Snowden? Please, it's obvious you have a hard-on for this nutjob and you're looking for others to agree with you.
Do you need a hug, shill?
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No.44127
>>44125
I never once compared him to Assange and Snowden. You're not reading anything I type correctly. Go away.
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No.44148
>>44127
That anon is trolling.
Remember what your mother taught you about trolling?
Anyways, he's the old media, but he serves as an entry point. His perspective are off the axis of what we get told daily. This serves enough to get us thinking about what we see from different perspectives, but ultimately, he is only useful for that beginning point. From there, we have to take the next steps for ourselves. Not allow ourselves to be more or less guided.
That's my take. Hearing his take on the news of the day is interesting, especially when what he says makes sense. Though when it comes to technology, he doesn't really understand it very well.
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No.44199
Don't give a shit about Alex. Snowden is an attention whore. Assange seems okay.
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No.44265
He's a tinfoil-hatter conspiratard, unfortunately governments are doing so much bullshit he's sometimes right too.
>>44107
basically this
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No.44310
Listening to Alex Jones is a guilty pleasure of mine. Unlike other conservative pundits (say, Rush Limbaugh), he's not an asshole and seems to genuinely care about US and believe stuff he says.
As for Snowden and Assange, they are really not comparable. Snowden had an extremely well paying job, a hot girlfriend and lived on Hawaii. He left it all behind to expose the surveillance state. Then, to amplify the message, he put a target on his own back. And today, freezing his ass off in Russia, he still works with a ton of journalists and NGOs to hurt global surveillance.
Assange, for comparison, is a product of the counter-culture. He has some good ideas, but they are secondary to his deep-seated disgust of the Western political culture. Note that Russian leaks rarely if ever get published on WL (and there is no shortage of those). I don't know much about Chinese leaks, but I'm pretty sure they are rarely on WL as well.
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No.44367
The stuff he says makes tinhat-wearing homeless guys babbling in front of the liquor store sound reasonable.
Then again, I guess his claim that atheists are trying to summon Lucifer so that they can merge with the internet and become immortal cyber demons of ultimate power (yes, that's an actual thing he said) would make a pretty cool cyberpunk story.
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No.44368
Is he high-tech low-life?
…well, he's certainly got the low-life part of the equation.
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No.44395
>>44367
I just view some of his craziness as his own language to understand the world. You can compare it to the voodoo religion in the sprawl where they talk about loa and spirits. some of that crazy actually might be related to some real event even though labeling it as god is wrong. Then actually a lot of his politics is on point, even if he does go too far.
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No.44397
>>44368
Do you count reverse osmosis filters as high-tech?
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't not use one if I lived in a country with flouridated water, but that's for personal reasons.
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No.44413
Oh please if this guy is anywhere then he's in the corporation's side. This dude knows what he is doing.
Take a short look on his store and you'll see that he's not a nutjob: He knows exactly what he is doing.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160717150747/http://store.infowars.com/Super-Male-Vitality-_p_1227.html
Just scroll down to "The Invention of Super Male Vitality"
>Super Male Vitality is the result of ancient wisdom reinterpreted over several years in the light of modern equipment and analysis.
The bullshit continues. You also can't find a quote by anyone other than Alex Jones himself, which is that 2 paragraph masturbation about how his testosterone in a bottle or whatever it is works so good.
And he repeats this again later
https://web.archive.org/web/20160721153928/http://store.infowars.com/Ancient-Defense_p_1450.html
The "ancient knowledge and modern science" shit again. You can LOOK around the website store and see this everywhere. Hell, make a drinking game out of it. What the hell are the ancient methods? The components? Because they're plants that existed for years? Is that it?
Everyone who attacks people attacks them upfront. If you go behind them and look at what they're actually doing(Int his example, selling shady shit), you'll notice that people are much easier to beat.
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No.44719
>>44265
>He's a tinfoil-hatter conspiratard
He does it ironically though, right? Are you so jaded you can't enjoy an entertainer acting the fool?
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No.44755
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>>44091
He reminds me of this guy, so yes I'd consider him somewhat /cyber/punk
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No.44761
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No.44769
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Alex Jones is a comedian that some people accidentally started taking seriously.
Some of his core political ideologies are okay, but I think he embraces crazy fringe shit on purpose as part of a huge joke that people don't get.
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No.44780
>>44413
let's dispell with the fiction that Alex Jones doesn't know what he's doing
>>44761
WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS
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No.44797
i have doubts about the sincerity of alex, jones. like he's only in it for the money, not to counter any establishment. ,
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No.44798
>>44769
more like to get more views
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No.44804
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Yeah, I think he's pretty cyberpunk
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No.44842
>>44804
Did he do a cameo in the second Deus Ex game as well?
I forget because I watched that movie at the same time that I was playing DX:HR.
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No.44861
>>44769
>Alex Jones is a comedian that some people accidentally started taking seriously.
Probably one of the oldest internet jokes that I seen, but I still laugh every time.
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No.48950
>>44091
>would you consider Alex Jones as a cyberpunk?
kek
Idk what the thread goes on from here, but I feel like anything I read will spoil this thought, so I'm leaving with this
thanks anon
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No.48951
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No.48952
>>44804
That's a great scene in the movie.
>>48951
Thanks for the chuckle, user. Good mash-up.
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No.54860
He covers for the Jews.
But then again most of you fuckers don't even get it and never will. This whole cyber-future thing will be run by them and Y0U will help them get there, just like you did with 9/11.
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No.54864
He never mentions Israel/Jews, because for mentioning (((them))) you can get into some serious trouble, cuz…well they kind of control…everything…
It's like a joke even on his show.
Thing to note -→ Cyber-punk is like literary based on Jewish end-times prophecy (where they take over the world and make all non-jews their slaves, look it up it's in the Bible)
Google this:
1."The PROMISE Gate" + "Robert Maxwell"((!)his daughter was raping kids together with Epstein and Trump(yep));
2."Odigo" + "911";
3."Talpiot Programm" + "Unit 8200";
4."Flight MH370" + "System Planning Corporation";
5."Oracle" + "RAD Group" + "5G"
/and now I'm too lazy to continue, but here some more random stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4gwTxxjT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNvrrhxC1sg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYE9UgmVrfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZtskrYtNcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ce3N1lAjg
https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Maxwell-Israels-Superspy-Gordon/dp/0786712953
P.S. One last thing my dear cyber-niggers, Jews/Israel did 9/11 by hacking those planes and flying them into those buildings
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No.54865
>>54864
How about you fuck off back to you nigger board, faggot?
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No.54877
>>54865
can't prove him wrong can you heeb?
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No.54880
>>54864
>"The PROMISE Gate"
You won't fins anything under that, you need to search for PROMIS gate
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No.54881
>>44091
Alex Jones has some serious logic issues.
He starts with a reasonable idea, and goes off the rails from there.
Point A leads to point B leads to THEY'RE TRYING TO KILL US AND THEY'RE SECRET DEMONS.
He's seriously mentally unstable.
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No.54887
>>54881
He was just on Joe Rogan ranting about how the (((globalists))) to produce humanoids because even though there are "human rights movements", and "animal rights movements" there are no "humanoids rights". The (((globalists))) will then sell out the planet to aliens from another dimension.
He also routinely says unqualified b.s. like "scientists already know our brain operates in the 5th dimension". and "Half of Brazil has the brain worm that makes you basically psychotic " (which ignores that toxoplamasmosis has been described as "basically symptomless" and in no way induces psychosis, meanwhile ~23% of US has.)
They way he rants its seems like he is on large amounts of cocaine. And he adopts a bizarre combination of new age ideas like organics, supplements, and just changes (((corps))) to (((globalists))).
The only thing interesting he said is that he is tired of being known as "the sandy hook guy", and that he was "just investigating" but now believes it happened.
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No.54905
>>54887
>He also routinely says unqualified b.s. like "scientists already know our brain operates in the 5th dimension"
They do though. Read "Analysis And Assessment of Gateway Process" published by the CIA.
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No.54926
>>54905
The word "dimension" has many dimensions. In some sense it just means "degrees of freedom", in a more vulgar sense it means "universe" or "place". Alex Jones is exploiting the equivocality of the word "dimension". To cause people to conflate a mundane list of orthoganal degrees of freedom a in some model with peoples persecption of "the 5th dimension" as semi-magical "plane of existence". He did the samething with "the brain worm that 50% of brazil has that makes you basically psychotic - its based on some defensible truth - there is a parasite, that may infect a brain, that exists but doesn't even close to make people "basically psychotic"
Alex Jones basically exaggerates everything he finds into elaborate non-sense and gets paid a ton for doing it.
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No.55012
>>54881
Jones seems to be the kind of guy who knows a lot, but pretends to be crazy for entertainment, or to make sure enough people are skeptical of him that he doesn't get taken out by the (((globalists))).
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No.55153
>>44761
WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS
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No.55595
>>44310
Wikileaks is more like Westernleaks.
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