/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

>>39853

Keys on wallet keyring, phone, a pen. No weapons to speak of. I'm shit-tier.

>>39867

There's literally no reason to not carry a knife, even a small one, if only for opening boxes.

>>39862

>wallet with 4 forms of federal ID

8/10.

>>39875

In australia you get thrown in jail or fined heavily for holding any kind of weapon regardless of reason or security.

fuck my country, my local area was niggerized recently and i'd love to have the right to fend them off

>>39891

To be honest, a knife fight is the last kind of fight I want to end up in. The person who wins a knife fight is the person who bleeds out last. It's better than nothing, but it's grisly. Guns are the way to go for defense. It's a damn shame you live in Australia, I'm well-acquainted with how bad your situation is.

>>39875

I don't have enough brouzouf for a knife. Stuck in wage-slave land.

Fuck my life.

>>39917

Same here. A decent knife is 80 bucks, and that's for something I likely won't ever use and will get me strange looks in public when I do use it.

>>39925

Maybe I'll go find some shit at the home depot or whatever.

Hell, I've been meaning to build a new shelf. Got a design sitting in my head, real minimalistic, you only need a 6-foot length of 2x4 and a 2'x4' chunk of plywood to build it…

all knifes that aren't fit for whittling are shit-tier. get a finnish Puukko and carry it proudly on your belt (you can always make up some shit about "having your roots in finland & being proud of your heritage"), and fear no man!

>>39946

Model?

>>39953

It's a Brous Series JB01K-CP Snarl tactical knife by SOG.

Here are the specs:

https://www.sogknives.com/snarl.html

I found it $20 cheaper @ Wal-Mart.

>>40282

As much as I like mine it's not really an edc, its more of a utility knife.

>>40352

Yee, that's the Bundeswehr's new tanto, the KM2000.

>>39882

Have a guide to it?

>>39958

>>39958

Thanks

>>40386

lol of course he doesn't, you could find one on murdercube or something though, just look under gunsmithing. I will warn you, depending on where you live,building a gun is so fucking illegal I can't even comprehend it. Just be careful.

>>40483

http://thehomegunsmith.com/

>>40487

Ah, this website makes me miss web 1.0's design

my god, get this ad thread out of here

>The Best Defensive EDC Knife | The DART

Are hunting knives cool?

>>39863

I bought a steel reinforced one on aliexpress, AFAIK it looks like a normal cardsharp with additional stainless steel sheets on the handle, I'll get back to you when it arrives in a month or so.

>>40839

You mean "schway?"

>>40911 (never forget)

These things always look cool, but the wrenches especially are difficult to use because you lack the leverage and you end up destroying your hands in the process.

Still schway because of the flatness.

>>40846

Yeah, the knife and pliers on my swisschamp are what I use most myself, probably followed by using the fish-scaler to pry things open, and then the can-opener and the screw-driver for their intended purposes.

>>40911

Schway. I'll probably pick one of those up next time I get paid.

>>40917

And it looks like a decoration, not something that'll get me stopped and searched. (Fun fact: I found out you're actually allowed to carry knives into Federal monuments so long as they're under a certain length and not spring-loaded by forgetting mine was in my pocket until we were at the security check.)

>>40943

>you're actually allowed to carry knives into Federal monuments so long as they're under a certain length

Got a source on that? I really doubt the smug guards at security checks would allow even a tiny knife through. Is some security guard loser really going to pull out a little ruler and allow it when they could simply say "no knives allowed, period" and add it to their collection?

>>40953

Them's the rules m8. If they take the knife then ask for the supe. Dude will probably just give the knife back instead of calling his boss, unless he actually thinks you're not allowed to have pocketknives.

Don't leave the checkpoint without a receipt or your knife or you'll never get the blade back.

>>40965

>2 shots

>.380

That's terrible for basically anything.

>>40966 (checked)

Well it has to be disguised as a cell phone, naturally that will bring some limitations with it. It's not the kind of gun you would use as you would use a normal sized gun (with a higher calibre, if it pleases her majesty).

It's mostly just a gimmicky thing and there are few situations in which it could be useful.

>>40953

I'd imagine there'd be different rules for places like the Whitehouse or if an event was happening with special VIPs but I don't see why they'd freak out about security for stuff like dumb rocks and other monuments.

>>40965

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>>40996

>>40997

>>40998

You alright? lol

>>41031

I think he's having a seizure.

>>40820

With the first one the only real problem is that the thumb button keeps coming off on me. it's actually a separate piece from the blade and attached with a small copper bar to a steel bracket that allows it to act as a switch. the copper bar keeps coming out. i've been meaning to re-peen it but i dont have a torch to do so.

>>41051

I just realized I fit so many stereotypes. You got me anon.

I am Crocodile Dundee.

>>40911

>13: the owner

>>40643

My grandfather owned an antique apache, didn't shoot accurately.

>>42118

Remove your tripcode. Nobody cares who you are.

>>39925

The gerber EAB is my edc. Its 10 bucks and it uses boxcutter blades. You can't do anything heavy duty with it, but those blades are really sharp and you just replace them when they're dull.

Victorinox Huntsman, 65ml can of mace (nofuns country), some pens, compass, a belt of bandaids, payphone card ("expired" back in 2009 but still works) and a lockpick set. Sometimes a radio (UV-5R, what else).

I'm thinking about getting a 25ml can to smuggle it past checkpoints.

sog flash 2

>>46891

>try to stab someone

>blade snaps off

>can't extend it fast enough, guy takes your wrist and stuffs it in your ass

>>46926

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

>>46913

If you get into a knife fight with only a knife in the first place then you had it coming.

t. conceal pistol carrier

>>46926

I had that very same but lost it. It was decent, but too heavy.

>>40839

Hunter here.

Define "hunting knife":

>Traditional knife used by hunters for carving up game into ready-for-kitchen-parts, finishing off and keeping hunting traditions; called a "Waidblatt" in Germany?

>Gralloching knife, short but sturdy knife, sometimes with an extra non-pointed blade, used to cut open game and remove the gralloch (most inner organs)?

>General purpose multitool, also much appreciated among hunters?

The first is usually quite bulky. Good, but not stealthy and unusually looking.

The second is better. If it's a folding knife, these are great EDC knives, but when will you ever need the second blade?

The third's great, period.

>>39935

Ma nigga. My father always carried a Buck,it still sitting in my basement with a snapped tip. Thing was a solid knife though.

>>40965

At that point just get a normal derringer, probably cheaper and more durable.

>>39853

What would be a legal and budget knife one would recommend for EDC in Canada?

>>40285

what purpose does a knife have other than utility? autisTHETICS?

>>48416

Im pretty sure he meant utility as in only made for one job, which that knife looks like it is (probably for fish or meat).

>>48416

>Doesn't realize different blades are used for different jobs.

Wew lad.

>>49568

American, actually. The pic was just 'cause I wanted to post relevant content, funny coincidence though.

Blade looks like a good fit! The gold accents and pommel are the best part, imo.

>>49570

Yeah, really like the style of

this one, a shame that every

Knife company sells mate black boring knives now, the only "cool looking" knives are either overpriced of cheap ass garbage made of shitty metal that could harldy cut anything.

I'm gonna try to keep this one the longer I can, like a family relic of some sort.

>>39891

even for a small swiss army or utility?

>>39917

do you not have like 10-25 dollars?

>>39947

my $25 surplus knife is surprisingly good at whittling if I make sure to sharpen it.

>>49568

>Yeah it sucks, in France you can strictly wear nothing for personal defense, except gas sprayers. Knuckles dusters, tasers and knives with 7cm or more blades are prohibited.

consider the predator tool. designed for special forces as a non-lethal weapon. Very hard material to jab, hammer, slash, rake etc. There are many videos on how to use these too.

basically it looks like a large goofy keychain and comes with a fast release lanyard for quick deployment. you can also buy them in a clear finish to make them harder to notice.

http://www.stonewalltactical.com/Self_Defense_Products2.html

http://brussoshop.com/index.php/product/defender-1-self-defense-weapons/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=predator+self+defense+tool

>>49568

>except gas sprayers

They can be quite effective. Which kinds of substances are allowed, and in which concentrations? KO Fog/Jet are good enough, but there may be more powerful models, especially if they're a combination of OC and CS. Video (skip to 06:00) shows KO Fog in action, and as you can see, the attacker is wasted in under 2 seconds (during which he's blind anyway).

I'm in a similar situation (here you can carry less-lethal pistols, but they are very limited in power and they're worse for stopping an attacker than a good spray), so I just got myself a 25ml compact can and a double stack IWB mag pouch for carrying it (because the spray itself has no clip, most of the sprays sold in Europe should have it by default).

>>51251

>>51252

Anything that requires direct contact WILL get you killed, be it a knife, stun gun (not the shooting kind) or that dong-like thing. Range or bust.

>>51254

>except gas sprayers

Ever see that Johnny Knoxville video where he tries all the non-lethal man-stoppers and cries like a bitch about how pepper spray would 'stop a freight train'? I've heard cops say they'd go for that if they're in range, before a gun, because you can miss with a gun, but the mist from one of those sprays can hit 3 guys at once.

>Anything that requires direct contact WILL get you killed

I think, if you're going to pull a knife, it'd better be in a situation where you're already in arms reach, and it's your last option. A knife won't get you killed, but a knife fight is basically the worst case scenario.

>>51251

This is why you break the law, up here in Canada concealed carrys are illegal, but I carry mine anyway for my own safety and I've had to use it before too. Glock 19 in 9mm btw.

>>39882

If you are going to carry a gun illegally, you might as well carry a fully assembled gun. Because the penalty, if not higher, will be the same, and no cop is going to be fooled by a disassembled weapon hidden on your person. Bullets are bullets. Also, unless your some kind of assassin, you probably want your gun to work defensively as well, and a disassembled weapon doesn't do that.

>>41044

Yeah, thats how you go to jail. Because if you get into a knife fight, you will probably have forensic evidence of that fight, and possibly wounds that require treatment at a hospital that will be reported to LE. your far better off trying to make a self defense argument before you flee than after.

Also, don't get into a knife fight. I used to carry a knife until I almost used it. I stopped because I realized that actually stabbing someone is probably worse than getting beat up trying to defend yourself. Although, because of the knife, I still don't know. So theres that.

>>46926

The actual wisdom in the thread. Most people don't get stabbed because they don't carry a knife, and think they are going to have an win a knife fight.

Most violence is social violence, and generally cooperating with your attacker results in you living.

A 95% reasonable survival strategy is accepting you may get robbed, and cooperating with the robbery. In 0.00…1% of cases some one is a serial killer, and you a knife fight is the best outcome. Carry a knife if you can trust yourself to only use it in that scenario. Because the consequences of using it outside that scenario are real. I don't carry anymore.

>>52315

What a load of bull.

>>52315

>>52314

>desperate to justify willful powerlessness

>>52326

How many knife fights have you successfully completed? I said clearly, that having a knife might actually be useful, but tried to give voice to something most edgy teenagers who carry a knife never thought about:

What happens if you get into an altercation while carrying that knife, and use it?

If you decide to carry a lethal weapon, you have to be able to determine when you can use lethal force. And if you are an edgy teenager, getting punched by anyone might make you fearful enough to draw that knife. And that might have consequences.

You might draw that knife, escalate a situation from a you got punched situation to a you got shot, or stabbed situation. Or, you might kill or injure someone and have to live with that, and potentially how long in prison ?

It seems people here have some kind of fantasy, that they are dangerous because they have a knife. Having the knife is a sense of false confidence, an incitement to escalate, and their are already retarded people on here talking about how easy it is to 'stab and run', as if the aftermath knife fight wouldn't leave forensic evidence and/or require health care. The reality for most people here is probably that they are more dangerous to themselves with a knife.

>>52327

Choomba, you're projecting so hard batman is probably on his way.

>>52329

I am honest enough to admit that I don't frequently enter situations were i might get stabbed - can't get stabbed on fullchan. And that carrying a knife for me resulted in escalation that didn't need to occur , and I almost stabbed some people out of fear, and that could have destroyed my life; I could have lost that knife vs multiple attackers fight, and got stabbed to death with my own knife. The reality for me is, that mma can't get taken from you and used against you. MMA allows you to have a realistic sense of confidence (you know people can kick your ass, you know how to take a punch), and allows a degree of control over a situation. I am opting for that. I don't frequently get into altercations where I would need a knife, and that strategy has worked fine for me over the decade which i stopped carrying a knife.

Perhaps your different. Perhaps you wouldn't pull the knife unless necessary, your not scared to take a beating. Perhaps you are in dangerous knife fights all the time, (but still post on fullchan), perhaps your a doctor too, and can take care of your own injuries without a hospital, or perhaps some kind of expert of evading police after stabbing someone on parking lot camera. Im not going to tell you what to do, i don't know your life (but I do have some suspicions).

But, myself, I won't carry a weapon. Its far to easy for me to end up paying a cost I don't want to pay.

>>46891

This, you can find a box cutter everywhere, it's cheap and most importantly doesn't stand out

>>52333

box cutter is a shitty weapon. I know a plane was hijacked with one, but seriously ? People die due to stab wounds, not superficial slices from a box cutter. If you bring a box cutter to a knife fight you are so fucked.

>>52332

>I don't frequently enter situations were i might get stabbed

>apparently gets into enough fights to fear carrying something everyone else is just using to open boxes

Well shit son, have you tried not getting into random fistfights?

If you can't carry a pocket knife without "almost" stabbing the next person that calls you a shazbot then the problem isn't knives it's just you.

>>52347

I actually don't get into fist fights willfully. But, I have been attacked a few times owing to where I live; I wasn't carrying a boxcutter to open boxes, I was carrying an expensive knife to act as a weapon, and when I got attacked by a few strangers, I pulled the knife and faced my attackers. I escalated what probably would have been a robbery to what could have been life death fight - specially if one of them had been armed. I am not sure I could have held on to the knife facing multiple attackers, and my fear about it retrospectively is:

1) I could have stabbed someone on camera in a way that would be legally unjustifiable which might have legally consequences, and forever alter my life.

2.) I could have have lost the fight after stabbing 1 person, and been stabbed to death in relatation by my own knife.

3.) They could have been armed, perhaps with a gun, and i might have died simply pulling the knife.

The area was relatively well populated at I was able to defend myself at the entrace of a store to limit their numbers, and I had the knife. I think I would have been better simply entering a store and holding the entrance shut, while someone called cops. Engaging with attackers was a mistake, bought about by false confidence with the knife, and fear of being beaten.

Its far more likely those guys would have simply tried to rob me than kill me on camera in a parking lot. By I escalated in a dangerous way. And I understand fully why my youngerself did that. The thing I am cautioning people about is that generally, you don't need a lethal weapon, but there are extremely rare events where its time to go, and it really is kill or be killed. This almost never occurs. I have been attacked a number of times, but the closest it ever got to life and death was my doing. And so if you carry 100% of the time, you have to know you will make the right decision under stress. If someone threats to beat you up, are you going to kill them on camera, or get shot trying ? If you are carrying a knife out of fear of a fight, you are carrying a knife for the wrong reason, and it could ruin your life.

>>52351

Just get a gun. If you're so scared of legal trouble from using a knife, a gun isn't really any different. At least it's more intimidating.

As someone who lives in a country where carrying weapons will land you in a shit prison for a long time, how about we see some non-weapon EDC? Watches, UMPC, anything schway?

>>54955

Where do you live? I don't know a country that won't let you carry at least some form of blade, provided it's under a certain length. Shit, get a Swiss army knife and keep it sharp, it will still maim anyone it's used on, and bad guys know it.

>>54956

Doesn't really matter though, does it? Chummer has a point, all we've got in this thread is knives.

I carry a USB with an encrypted partition for me, a bootable OS for random terminals available for use, and an unencrypted writable partition for just sharing files with people who use Windows.

>>49584

> I've heard you can just use water to prep the stone instead

This only works on some stones. I'm not sure what the properties of the stone itself have to be, but there are stones that use water and stones that use oil and you should ask whoever you're buying it from which is better.

t. have a "wet" whetstone that everyone said to just use water on that didn't work for shit, but then magically started owning bones when I threw a bit of cheapo baby oil on it instead of letting it soak in water.

>>54960

This but unironically but also without the gun.

If you're some hick or nigger who expects to get into gun fights all the time, you're either a delusional mallninja or are a nigger or hick yourself and either way you should stop that.

Multitools are pretty good though, but even then you'll probably use it a lot less than you predict. The pliers will probably be the thing you end up using the most, and the screwdrivers the least (they're usually too flimsy/wobbly even on locking models for stuff like furniture or bigger housings for things, and are way too large for electronics where being wobbly doesn't matter)

>>54956

>how about we see some non-weapon EDC? Watches, UMPC, anything schway?

It's not gonna happen because EDC stuff is for larping mallninjas and posturing niggers

as for me, it is just a loose debit card, the ID I need to get into work, and some cash/change. I also usually try to have a notepad and pencil. My house (or rather, the house I'm renting a room in) uses a keypad to enter so I don't carry keys or a keychain. I have a cheap digital watch that someone thought was mine at work but totally isn't but I didn't say no. It's apparently a Casio so I guess that's midly ~Schway~ but it's not the model that has a calculator built in so it's not meme enough for /cyber/k/.

I recently bought an SD-expandable MP3 player that I could put some meme linux variant on but I rarely encounter computers I'd want to access that way, either they're workstations that have to play nice with some Windows 2008 R2 server or are friend's computers that they are currently trying to game on. Even if I wanted to steal stuff from work's servers, a Lubuntu machine named CYBERHACKWARE420GOKUXX that doesn't use the right OS, let alone any other correct setting, is going to be a lot more visible than me just logging in normally and shoving whatever I want onto one of our many USB sticks specifically meant for that and just copying the USB via another station we have solely for doing that.

>>46891

>>52333

People literally used to hijack planes with these things, carrying a boxcutter outside of somewhere with a ton of boxes in it is INCREDIBLY sketchy now. Especially since most people who work in places with shittons of boxes generally bring their own knives now that fancy folding knives are popular,schway, cheap, and prolific.

They're also not very good knives; the flexible blade is liable to glance off of anything even slightly hard, and they're perforated so it might even break. The straight blade without false point is unsuitable for stabbing, and being so flexible and brittle makes it unsuitable for slashing. In terms of work, they're too flimsy to pry stuff, and generally not thicc or robust enough to survive cutting heavier materials or at least do so cleanly. They're really best kept for their intended purpose – precisely cutting paper, tape, light cloth, and other thin and weak materials, preferably using a straightedge and the minimum of blade exposed as possible lest it start flexing and wandering.

>>54960

Niggers: Schway or Gay? A /cyber/ debate.

>> 54966

Good post.

>>54975

>>54966

Don't samefag, retard!

>>54966

congrats on most cancerous post in thread.

>>54974

schway choice.

>>54997

Much appreciated, chummer.

According to most of the shazbots posting on this board it's about the only schway choice I've made.

The fuck does everyone here have a wire up their ass for?

>>55001

Oi, wonka! Do you have a loicence for that thing?

>>55061

Knives are clearly dick-extensions. Dare to talk about anything else and you're not in the circle-jerk - ie, you're not one of _us_, you're one of *them*. fuck. Some are too sensitive!

Seriously though… there's about five good posts here that aren't 100% knife related.

>>39853

RN, highlight of my EDC is a Tails thumb with persistence that contains a backup of all of my stuff and password manager. Now, I can carry a basic functional computing environment with me that allows me access to my stuff if I need it. I am also thinking about making a another for offsite backup at one of my family's places across the country.

Current EDC: Folding knife, heavy weight, cheesy zombie artwork scales, great work knife. Also carrying a Smith & Wesson HRT Bootknife, which works great. Super tough, easy to pull.

Also carry a smartwatch with a small modification that allows me to hide an 8 GB mini-memory card in the underside beside the heartrate sensor. A bit worried about the software on the smartwatch because it's some chinese shit, but everything's being monitored by the Chinese or the Americans anyways.

I'm considering trying to machine my own folding pistol by salvaging a barrel and hammer assembly from an existing gun and machining the housing, but who knows when that shit will happen now that I've lost my job due to the fucking Coronavirus lockdowns.

Why not go for a multitool?

I use this small one and have it attached right to my keychain.

https://youtu.be/G0T31oOYVhc?t=141

(Turn on English subs)

>>49560

I can't doesn't mean I don't.

Just be smart.