/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

>>52689

IMO what makes legit /cyber/ fashion is stuff that is durable, comfortable, has some slightly future-forward details like cutting edge materials, geometric detailing, maybe some pockets for tech, a bit of sensible wearable technology, etc. If you're trying, you're doing it wrong. If it's stuff you like to wear and are comfortable in, you're doing it right. A bit of punk detailing is good too…junkie fit pants, some mesh and/or fishnet stuff, etc.

>>52701

>>52709

Regarding what IS /cyber/-fashion, I honestly think any attempt to dress /cyber/ly will fail due it always being an attempt at recreating a something fictional.

This goes deeper in that while we fantasize about Gibsonesque worlds where people dress in that way and the world is an forever dark place only illuminated by neon, we don't live in those worlds. We live in our world which is deeply similar to those, but superficially totally different and we must accept that what we believe to be /cyber/ fashion, for example, is actually utilitarian and not extroverted egoist absurdities. The "fashion" people wore in cyberpunk fiction was always this way and I've never read anything in which so-called cyberpunks attempted to stand out in ridiculous attire. I mean, which cyberpunk characters can you name that were concerned with how they look?

If you want to "dress /cyber/", the most authentic thing you can do is dress cheap and functional without any bells and whistles. Cargo pants are good as well as jackets with inner pockets as they can carry a lot without the use of a backpack. But other than that it's up to you. You're an individual and I know you want to belong, to be part of a subculture, but the spirit of cyberpunk is inherently against acting tryhand. Stay under the radar. Stay cool.

>>52710

Like you indicated, it's simply a matter of not going overboard with it. Just like with any other subculture, if you're trying hard to pull of a particular look, you just look like a tryhard shazbot.

HOWEVER, you can incorporate small details into your wardrobe that makes it more cyberpunk in appearance without being ridiculous….geometric stitching or geometric paneling, 3D printed accessories, etc. It's not that difficult, really.

Also, only tryhards think that cyberpunk has to be foreverdark or constantly bathed in neon. There's nothing wrong with high-tech, low-life during the day. There's nothing wrong with Cyberpunk outside of a city setting.

As for characters in cyberpunk fiction being concerned with how they look, for starters, Bobby Newmark in Count Zero was VERY concerned with it, expressing his distaste with the ghetto-esque fashion of his compatriots in the Arcology, as well as the strangeness of the "gothics", and his elation over finding a tshirt with a digitally animated display on it.

Other characters in other cyberpunk works are often described as trying to maintain their fashion as being ahead of the curve, or as simple as possible, or having particular items of clothing that are very precious to them as a result of their uniqueness.

>>54884

Get smaller boots and throw that polo in the trash

>>54884

>an ankh and a tiny spoopy lantern worn with your StarBucks uniform

ShadowRun is cyberpunk.

CYBERPUNK IS NOT SHADOWRUN

>>54886

I have smaller boots, but my 20 eye docs are my favorite. They're comfortable and stompy.

I don't actually have that exact polo either, but it's close-ish to the one I was wearing that day, which was a black, silk-like material with a print on it that reminds me visually of the way comics and cartoons often try to imply starship windows…a staggered series of rounded dashes and lines and stuff.

>>54888

Shazbot I wouldn't even set foot in StarCucks. Fuck that place. The place i work is a small, family owned place where we serve basic coffees and homemade baked goods and lunch foods.

Like it or not, the Tritium lantern is pretty cyberpunk and a small detail. A lot of the tshirts and polos that I wear have patterns I like and think are slightly cyberpunk. I have no need or desire to try hard to put forward an appearance that essentially says "THIS IS A THING I LIKE. I LIKE DIS. Y U NO LIKE DIS? MY HOBBY MAKES ME BETTER THAN YOU."

I keep small nods to the things I like: Goth culture, cyberpunk and science fiction, and occasionally a bit of futurism, but I never make it a point to be very in-your-face and I try to keep my style very business-casual and professional.

I'm there to work, not to be a fucking showoff. I can be a showoff when I occasionally go out to a concert or to a club to dance.

>>54936

>The place i work is a small, family owned place

so you still work in a hipster-oriented shithole selling bean tea at 65,445% markup and raw vegetables between slices of untoasted white bread to fellow poseurs. The only difference is instead of a green apron, you have a white or black one. Amazing!

>the Tritium lantern is pretty cyberpunk

it's more World of Warcraft Subscriber than Cyberpunk but whatever. If it all helps you believe that rolling a mass of D6s and being unable to tie your own scarf is what makes someone truly cyberpunk, then go for it

>>54937

Actually it's located in a business center and prices are really nice and affordable to the point where the boss has actually had to raise them to make more money. I've seen maybe one hipster in the entire time I've worked there. The rest of the customers are middle aged business people, court workers, and tech company staff from the several programming companies in the building. Nice folks too, for the most part.

And the food we serve is stuff like mac and cheese, burritos, and a lot of nice comfort food.

You're a real cunt, aren't you? Where the fuck do you get off judging me? You don't even know me. Maybe hop off of that high horse you think you're riding on and realize it's an ass instead.

Maybe if you weren't such a sack of shit you'd have some friends.

>>54969

>I work for someone incompetent at both business management and being a chef who rents out a spot in a corporate campus cafeteria, and have to soothe myself in the face of my precarious existence by wearing "tactical" boots and "magic" trinkets as if we're in a post-impact world

You wrap shitty burritos and slop mac n' cheeze into styrofoam containers. You're even lower than grocery clerks sent to collect bills.

>>54970

I have a job. I've struggled to maintain one because of physical and mental health issues that can't be avoided and can't exactly be worked past. I'm thankful for it. My boss is kind and treats her employees and customers alike with respect and decency, which is more than I can say for every other job I've had. I go to work feeling glad to be there. I leave work happy that I've put a smile on others' faces and gotten away from my own misanthropy for a few hours. I work hard for the brouzouf I have, and I get to dress more or less however I want.

What do you do, besides being a miserable cunt of a nigger on the internet? It obviously doesn't bring you happiness or joy. I'd say I have the better job, because I'm not a shallow cunt whose only solace is money.

Lmao, a newfriend from reddit is a lowlife burger flipper at business center caffeteria is trying to fill his mind and soul voids by consuming big-name apparel trying to dress as an epic cyberpunk.

Also: do Americans really eat fucking mac-and-cheese at lunch breaks? Even in my post-communist poverty hole, caffeterias serve real food like fish, meat, potato and vegetable salads.

>>54983

>Also: do Americans really eat fucking mac-and-cheese at lunch breaks?

yes, and for dinner as well

>potato and vegetable salads.

americans can't even eat vegetables without dipping them in Velveeta®

>>45386

>silicone mold

>cast silver

sillicone can barely handle hot water being splashed on it without degrading, and has to be made in special ways to even be oven-safe

the melting point of silver is, in ACTUAL FACT, well in excess of four hundred degrees, vastly hotter than many ovens

>>54983

I'm not even American.

The place I work at serves all kinds of stuff, a lot of baked goods and salads. For whatever reason the business types and court workers really like shepherd's pie and mac and cheese for their lunches. Personally I prefer baked goods and salads.

Why so much hatred for people who work low-end foodservice jobs?

>>54985

Mouldmaking silicone can handle low heat. Small amounts of Silver and Aluminum can be poured into some of them. You just have to carefully read the labels or know what you're doing, and carefully observe the mould. For things like rings and small pendants it should be fine, but for thicker and larger objects where the heat doesn't rapidly dissipate you'll definitely run into problems.

Generally it's better to make a silicone mold, fill the mold with wax, and invest the wax, but not everyone has the resources for that.

>>54986

we hate you because you're a tryhard poseur who thinks working at Cafe Depot for min wage pouring coffee and serving pre-made mac and cheese makes you some kind of working class hero

itt: people who think they are in a UbiSoft game irl

>>54994

What?

>>54884

This isn't cyberpunk, this is prime 2005 goth. Were you linked to this board from VampireFreaks or something?

>>54994

Where the fuck is that kind of thinking coming from? I don't think I'm anything special. I'm just glad I have a job I don't hate. I've worked in tech support, I've worked in warehouses, I've worked in call centers, I've worked in bars, and I've worked in corporate offices. Working where I do is the first time I haven't dreaded going to work.

What the everloving fuck is wrong with that?

>>55005

Golly gee willikers, it's almost as if I might be a person who likes goth music.

But vampirefreaks? Not for me.That site was never anything even close to goth music, it's all EBM and for some reason scenester shit.

>>22334

>>22354

ddrescue isn't used to recover files, and tor doesn't ship default on kali. Metasploit is the most popular pentesting tool around. shazbot carrying kali around daily with no known uses for it because he thinks it looksschway confirmed.

>>35344

fucking shazbot. Most serveilance systems are decades old analog camera systems with low resolution connected to a dvr system that actually records on tape. Footage is frequently not good enough to even get a good view of perps face.

This frequently doesn't come up because cops basically do not give a shit. If your crime isn't big enough to put on the news and ask everyone if they have seen you, no one cares.

Go watch some surveillance footage.

>>40693

top schway. /cyber/ fashion should probably be utilitarian. The LCD/Glow in the dark skulls, stuff is drokk. Solid colors are timeless. That green jacket is pretty schway.

>>55032

>decades old analog camera

Maybe in some african shithole where they have to recycle electronic garbage from first world. In my city every residential building has day/night HD camera on entrance, lifts, stairways. All these cameras are connected to central system that also performs live facial recognition and tracking. Do these cameras work? I checked, they do, as well as other cameras around the street, there is a central web portal where people can register with their ID and watch live feed, also connect their own IP DVRs to the network. No, I do not live in China. This is reality. Add road cameras, buses, subway and light rail, private businesses that bought camera setups from state owned ISP, big malls, parks, there is literally nowhere to hide besides your own apartment, and that's not decent enough - walls are too thin and your "tech-nerd" neighbor bought a "smart assistant" last week.

>>55047

post proof.

I have worked at 3 places now, one of which was a big box retailer in the US, and two PC repair shops. two of those places had cameras, but analog only connected to analog dvrs that record on hard drive internally, and cycle footage. I have preformed data recovery from a similar system from a jewelry store. One remaining place I worked actually had no cameras. All of this in a California.

Cameras are not actually useful to private people for a variety of reasons - mostly because there is no centralized facial recognition software police can use. Having photos of you committing a crime doesn't do shit - which is why you see posts about "Do you recognize this man?" when serious crimes are committed.

The US doesn't even have a national ID system, and state DMVs are decentralized. There isn't even a national repository of any identifying documents except name and social - and the federal government doesn't even use that in all its agencies : The hall mark of government is being asked again and again for the same information by different forms instead of some kind of repository of information accessible.

Im not saying this is a bad thing btw, i am just saying, your story is absolutely retarded. Cameras arn't as useful as you think, more than 50% of crimes go unsolved, and there is no national database for anything.

>>55032

Not really, even my rural town in the middle of nowhere- most stores and buildings that have cameras have already upgraded from from older equipment like that. The newer stuff may not be that big of an upgrade, but the upgrade was still made.

>>55052

post proof video feed from run of the mill private property is fed to a centralized facial recognition software run by a government contractor.

The IT requirements themselves are absurd. 25Mbps upload for a single HD video stream or else, the video cameras themselves have to have CV technology to identify faces.

Centralized database to upload to isn't a config option on any camera I have ever seen. Meanwhile upload for most people is nowhere enough to stream HD on ADSL.

But none of that even matters. Post proof centralized facial recognition database exists and is connected to run of the mill private property dvrs.

>>55053

All I was arguing was that not everyone is still using 40 year old security cameras.

>>55054

thats honestly fair enough.

All I am saying is that there is no centralized US surveillance system, at least across private property, and part of the reason thats true is that people are using lower quality cheaper surveillance equipment than most people think, and thats probably because its not as useful as most people think - having a video doesn't get your stuff back, or catch the criminal.

>>55055

The only places that seem to be using the kind of over-the-top surveilance that would require having to trick a camera are dystopian surveillance states like China and the UK.

However, much as the people don't like it, governments do. We will, within the next few decades, see a fullscale rollout of facial recognition software in most of the first world, even if only in the vicinity of government buildings, subway systems, and high crime intersections. As is we already see traffic cameras that have good enough resolution to get the driver's face and the license plate.

>>55071

>However, much as the people don't like it, governments do. We will, within the next few decades, see a fullscale rollout of facial recognition software in most of the first world

100% agree. I think that policy is driven by technology rather than technology driven by policy. As soon as the creation of a centralized facial recognition database becomes technologically not a burden, it will be done.

>>55073

Aye, and the same can be said of a lot of the tech that would make the world more cyberpunk. For example, cybernetics.

It's already becoming cheapish to produce, it's just a matter of the tech getting to the point where it augments the human body.

My guess is we're about a decade from that. I hope to be an early adopter.

>>55105

what body modifications do you want to adopt ? One of the things I have always thought about tatoos is that they are shitty because they are effectively just unchangeable clothes. A lot of the current body mod stuff seems like un-upgradable tech. The current tear is kindof shitty, just magnets and nfc.

>>55130

I like some of the tech from the Cyberpunk PnP game…stuff like skinwatches and the like.

One thing I'd like to do is replace my right hand(which has some nerve and tissue damage from an old injury) and maybe the forearm as well with a robotic version that has some inbuilt gadgets…a set of screwdrivers and maybe a cold-temp soldering iron for my electronics hobbyism, a video screen for connection to various electronics, that sort of basic thing.

More than that I'd like to replace my eyes with ones that I can change the color of, that have around 5x optical zoom, and that can display a customizable HUD so I can keep track of things like live electrical cables in walls, my own vitals, and maybe even a connection to the internet via 4G or wifi, though I worry about the security concerns that can arise from the latter.

It would be nice to bring up a local map or to keep track of ammunition in a firearm, or to gauge the approximate weight of an object for prototyping electronics.

>>55144

> a video screen for connection to various electronics, that sort of basic thing.

Thats the one item that i think might be problematic. If your hand is VGA only and your devices use mini-hdmi. The cyberpunk reality is carrying dongles for your hand.

>I'd like to replace my eyes with ones that I can change the color of

Shitty substitute is contact lenses. I am sure you have heard, they have cosmetic contact lenses without 'lenses' proper.

>display a customizable HUD

This is the wearable/mod I am most interested in. Having real time relevant information fed to me visually like that sounds awesome. I'd like to see some 水 apps for google glass like products in the short term.

>>55145

Honestly, VGA is going the way of Betamax.

Very few consumer electronics are manufactured with it anymore, and even those that are also have HDMI input. I'd probably just want an HDMI input with a cord stored in the arm itself.

The color changing of the eyes is tertiary to the function, really. My main interest in consumer electronics is the functionality overall.

Hell, with that in mind I'd love to get those magnetic implants that connect to your phone via bluetooth and vibrate to transmit music to your brain. Moreover I'd love medical implants to electrically massage my skull from the inside to help with my chronic migraines. My mother has an implant like that for her own migraines and chances are within the next ten years I'll need one myself since I can barely function as a working human being.

All in all, I'd say function over form for priority, but if I can get augments that look schway as well I'll take it.

>>55148

VGA and HDMI were really analogues for whatever technology will be available in the future - the problem with augments (水 name btw) is that upgrading them will be a bitch - real life humans scare, surgeries have complications etc. So if your implants don't stand alone (like soldiering iron), as technology changes, life starts to suck. Also, if the cord is embeded, what happens when cord gets frayed etc.

I think wearables might be a more attractive option than augments.

>>55130

In my opinion, body modifications are shit because 90% of what they can do is also possible with more conventional wearable technology that doesn't require you to lose a limb or install a USB port in your nipples. Now, legitimate medical prosthetics but with technology built in? Pretty decent, as you aren't cutting yourself apart for the sole purpose of being able to have an RGB-illuminated spinal column or being able to store sensitive computer data in your skull.

Call me a luddite, but I prefer to keep my squishy bits intact for as long as possible- even if it does mean coming late to the augmentation party.

>>55149

>if the cord is embedded, what happens when it gets frayed

Well, you take the arm off and get it repaired or conduct repairs yourself, realistically. having some measure of plug-and-play functionality seems to make sense. It really would depend on how seamless the electronics are. I'd like a robotic arm to be a fashion statement, personally. I want it to be obvious that it's not natural. I'd construct the outer shell with angular shrouds and bulges and things that would both look schway as fuck and also house extra gadgets or auxiliary batteries.

If it's extremely integrated, well, you get surgery.

guys stop dressing like you're someone you aren't, people won't perceive you as what you want them to. dress practically.

>>22468

I like this

>>55166

>having some measure of plug-and-play functionality seems to make sense

Plug In Play refers to IRQ's and DMA's being configured automatically.

You probably just mean modular?

lads can anyone recommend me if the boots in >>47953 are any good?