No.5045 [Last50 Posts]
As a cuckquean, I've always wondered what men/bulls like about having a cuckquean. Anyone willing to share?
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No.5046
>>5045
My cuckquean pointed me here. I'll see what I can do to answer this.
What do I like about having a cuckquean? Aside from being able to have a relationship with a wonderful loyal sub who I love dearly and being able to bottom out in attractive vixens with positive consequences instead of a horrendous wheel of hurt, you mean?
I love the depth of loving submission to me. It makes her so happy! She's completely sublimated any claim to sexual exclusivity over me because she finds it hot when I fuck and wholeheartedly believes that I should have any and all pussy I want. ("Every girl should beg to belong to you, Master!") Every time I cuck her, part of me is getting off on her getting off on me getting off, and it forms a virtuous spiral that ends up with us both very happy.
I love how right it feels. I can't describe it except like that; every time she sucks another girl's scent off my cock and breathlessly asks for details, something deep inside me relaxes and says "yes, this is correct, this is how it should be".
I like how it keeps me on my toes. Relationships can have a way of making you complacent, but being simultaneously on the pull spurs me to fuck harder, top better, keep in shape, and generally try to be all I can be sexually. I've learned more about picking up and developed more self-confidence as the bull to my cuckquean than I ever had before.
I like how utterly dirty it is. Do you have any idea how hot it is to tease your sub with little details about the vixen you'll soon fuck while she practically humps your leg in a subspaced trance? How amazing a sensation a cuckquean's tongue lapping your balls while you slam into the vixen's pussy that said cuckquean is also holding open for you? How comfy it is to sip a cool drink that your cuckquean's just brought you, the warmth of your well-fucked vixen in one arm and the tongue of your cuckquean diligently cleaning your rapidly-rehardening cock? Of course you don't! I'm here to tell you it rates somewhere between blast furnace and planetary core.
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No.5056
I mean, I'm a forever alone dude, probably the last guy that would ever fit into a cuckquean dynamic. I can only articulate why it appeals to me, and not what I enjoy about it because I haven't had the opportunity. This board's slow enough that it doesn't really matter though I suppose.
I like the openness, the prospect of being doted upon even as I indulge my "worst" impulses. It's about now having to worry about consequences, kind of. If I were to find my balls, so to speak, because I finally managed to get laid and maintain a relationship…I'd probably cheat at any opportunity. Having "sanctioned targets" or if everything was fair game…that's hot.
There's the other aspect to it, the dominance over the woman. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a major draw to have this woman wrapped around my finger and catering to my whims.
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No.5061
> what men/bulls like about having a cuckquean
Other women.
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No.5071
>>5061
>Being an asshole is all part of my manly essence
I mean…It's true though. I would think cuckqueans especially love bad boys.
But I'd also like to think that I've perfected the art of being an asshole without really being an asshole.
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No.5078
>>5045
Is bull the correct term? I'd think you'd want to avoid anything with a link to cuckoldry.
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No.5082
>>5078
We experimented with the term stallion for a cuckquean's man in the terminology thread at >>233 but generally if people come from outside they use bull-derived terms.
It bothers me too, hope we find something catchy that fits eventually.
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No.5092
>>5082
Stallion would be a smart choice since it has connotations of breeding with many women to pass on superior genes. Stud would be more accurate, I suppose, but that word already has a common meaning.
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No.5094
>>5092
For being the most widespread fetishists through human history we seriously lack in terms of nomenclature I bet there was ancient cuckquean wisdom lost to historical oblivion due to joos and cultural marxists' revisionism
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No.5095
I like playing with insecurities, teasing as if the sex is gonna drive me away from her and directly into the arms of the vixen, sometimes even to the point of tears which admittedly makes me feel kinda bad but the payoff at the end is more than worth it, only to do the exact opposite and console wifey, make her feel better with cuddles, warmness etc and most importantly of all make sure she knows she's loved, after all just because the dick goes inside some other girl doesn't mean the heart will belong to anyone else but her
>I'm fat, that girl he's fucking looks pretty sexy…
>w-wow, she can take him so deep down her throat, I gag instantly
>I've never made him cum so hard like that…
>she's so much prettier than I am
>It's so unfair, she'll end up stealing him away from me like this
HHHHHNNNG
stuff like that, ya know?
regular ol' "hey hubby I wanna share you" works just as well, though
>>5082
>>5092
>stallion
>stud
how about just man? no clue if the two anons quoted have benis but I do and I much prefer being associated with human masculinity than a dang horse who gets to fug a lot. I also think that since most men are the doms in their cuckquean relationships only the wifey and vixen should have names associated with them and/or their role in the affairs
the guy's just a guy, the most prime example of a male, getting to mate with several other women despite already having one to settle down with yet she doesn't mind it, knowing that a) sex isn't the only thing wifey has to offer and b) he's too good of a specimen to keep for herself, of course
also, calling the guy a male seems more refined than bull or stallion, sort of like this fetish being more evolved and civilized than cuckolding
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No.5097
>>5095
>I much prefer being associated with human masculinity than a dang horse who gets to fug a lot.
I read this in his voice.
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No.5099
>>5097
I was going to say "damn" but I didn't want to swear.
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No.5100
>>5095
original OP here, I'm sorry if about the terminology, I honestly don't know if it's incorrect or uncommon, it's just the first thing that came to mind…can't remember if it's a term I saw on a blog somewhere >_<
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No.5103
>>5099 (checked)
C-Cute!
>>5100
That's okay, OP, today you are not a faggot. The only terms that really seem to be nailed down are cuckquean and vixen, with the latter relatively new and the rest of the Internet using the cringeworthy term cuckcake instead. Like >>5095 says, I don't think a special term is needed for a cuckquean's man either.
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No.5107
>>5100
I'm sure some guys enjoy being called stud, stallion, bull or any other name of the sort while cucking their queans, just as I'm sure lots of queans around the world enjoy calling them those same names. Man's just my personal preference.
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No.5108
>>5099
It's okay, you can swear on the internet. We won't tell.
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No.5109
>>5095
>no clue if the two anons quoted have benis
inb4 tumblr gets triggered by claiming penis = man
>also, calling the guy a male seems more refined than bull or stallion, sort of like this fetish being more evolved and civilized than cuckolding
Well cuckqueaning is a natural part of society. Cuckoldry is just genetic failure.
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No.5133
>>5103
Einsteins:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13804030/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/new-letters-shed-light-einsteins-love-life/
Albert Einstein had half a dozen girlfriends and told his wife they showered him with "unwanted" affection, according to letters released on Monday that shed light on his extramarital affairs.
Or Hawkings:
https://blog.cmdstore.com/2012/02/29/stephen-hawking-goes-to-strip-clubs/
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No.5176
>>5045
Well I don't know if I can speak on this authoritatively because I only had a cuckquean for about a week before the relationship ended for unrelated reasons she had a schoolworkwork-related mental breakdown, it was unfortunate that we met right before her senior finals started
That said, even though I only got to cuck her once, it was more than enough to make me determined to find another cuckquean to do so again. I loved the feeling of a woman being so aroused by my masculinity, and the fact that I was so attractive to women besides herself.
Besides, I can't imagine a world where I'd have to spend the rest of my life having sex with only one person. I'm not saying that my only interest in women is sexual, but if I have no chance of having sex with women it makes the world a lot less fun for me. Every cute woman I see I like to imagine what she'd be like in bed. I want to fuck as many women as possible over the course of my lifetime. I'm not sure I could be happy if I didn't end up sleeping with at least a hundred, but I want many more than that.
That said, I also want stability and having someone who I can come home to at night, kick back and watch a show with on the couch is important to me. With a cuckquean, I have the best of both worlds.
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No.5195
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No.5199
I like it when queans call them "My Man", it is perfect balance between safe term such as boyfriend or husband and not flamboyant like Stallion, or Stud, they aren't even possessive terms signifying the her and his bond. And no "bull"; it is "hubby" or "SO" tier.
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No.5205
>>5046
>I love how right it feels
Maybe it is a instinctive thing. Anyway, what a great post overall. I enjoyed it.
>>5199 (Checked)
I agree and other terms like bull are too reminiscent of male cuckolding.
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No.5233
I love the weight I see crush my partner. It's not despair. It's not sadness. She herself describes it as a heaviness in her soul that comes with a happiness from enabling my own. Our relationship even outside of me cucking her is 24/7 Master/slave, and she lives to be reduced and then validated. She derives self-worth by evidence of someone else extracting it from her, whether or not she likes it. To give an idea of how deep this runs in her, here's a list of things she enjoys fantasizing about: being raped as long as her rapist is satisfied, being eaten as long as her predator is nourished, and being enslaved as long as she's useful (which almost universally ends in either of the former). So taking her out as my wingman (and sometimes deal-sweetening bait) is at once degrading, exploitative, and manipulative, while also being deeply gratifying to both of us. I'm using her as a tool, and she is being used for her owner's benefit. The deeper she's crushed under the weight of this domination, the more satisfied she is, while I enjoy every minute of it on principle.
The sweetest cherry on top is that while ours is a well-founded relationship on years of intimate friendship, she's almost exclusively sexually attracted to girls. She'll serve my every whim, but what gets her going are other girls. So there's a play between the two of using her as a wingman and then not giving her more than a taste of my haul. She can watch, she can listen, and she can taste her on me when we're done. But if she wants to touch or be touched, she has to have been a very good girl. Oftentimes she wants the vixen more than I do.
So there's cuckqueaning, domination, exploitation, and … what is the female equivalent of blueballing? I'll go with denial for now. Denying her any benefit of her application drives home the "you're a tool to be used" subjugation, while giving me the chance to reward her if she's been good. She knows I have a high sex drive, so her facilitating my appetite is self-validating from her perspective even above getting her owner laid; which benefits me, as my appetite is being fulfilled. And even if she's being denied, she is seldom more heavily crushed than being left in bondage nearby while my vixen and I spend hours together: an appliance whose services are no longer required and whose best practice is to quietly wait to be addressed again.
The look on her face when she's glazed out in subspace induced by like 5 levels of domination simultaneously is almost hypnotic itself. It's a delicious Ouroboros of emotional bondage with each fetish feeding every other one.
And she's always so heart-meltingly grateful for everything I permit for her, and she practically worships my vixens. Which is just as well: the rule is that any vixen in my bed is to be treated as her owner for the duration of her stay, with the exception that she can't countermand my own orders.
She's such a good girl. I just can't tell her that too often, or she gets spoiled.
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No.5235
>>5233 (Checked)
Amazing post.
>she's almost exclusively sexually attracted to girls
I suppose even though she's a lesbian the cuckquean or submissive part of her has decided the best way to satisfy that is to serve a man. She definitely is a good girl, absolutely zero doubt about that.
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No.5238
>>5233 (checked)
>>5235
>She definitely is a good girl, absolutely zero doubt about that.
Seconded. Treat her right, and by that I mean use and abuse her for all she's worth.
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No.5261
>>5071
Then you have transcended assholeness. You are no longer an asshole. You have perfected the art, now you must move on to the next.
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No.5290
>>5233
>>5176
You guys sound like convenience-assholes. I just want a gf to cuddle, watch chinese cartoon, cuck her and share vixens she likes with. ;_;
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No.5291
>>5290
Don't forget that thing where you fart under the covers and hold them over her head. Managing to do that to two women at once would basically mean you win at life.
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No.5293
>>5291
CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN
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No.5578
>>5290
>convenience asshole
There's some truth to that, in that I'm a sadist in the true sense of the word. The trick is to find someone who has a larger appetite for pain than you have an appetite to deliver.
She fantasizes about being eaten alive after being nearly raped to death by somebody who used to take care of her. I think I'm okay.
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No.5617
I have nothing to d owith being a «bull» or delicate culture of consent cheating or anything like that, but here are my 50 cents.
I never was interested in fucking two women in the same time, however I was a sadist since the moment I was born, so it's was only the matter of time that I'll discover wonderful world of BDSM for myself. Thus, almost all of my relationship involved humiliation and roughness in bed (even with guys, although I quickly found that women are a lot more into being enforced, and usually are willing to go a lot further in that destination, so I lost interest in gay relationship rather quickly). The matter of humiliation and degradation of a women interesed me the most of all. I live in Russia. Most of the women tend to be submissive and masocistic. It's quite often for a woman to enjoy submission to a guy in general, but I think in our country it's even furtherly emphasized.
For me, inviting someone in our bed started with more usuall group sex and gangbangs of my bottoms. I was never into lesbian porn or fucking a few women in the same time, I always found the biggest pleasure in concentrating all my attention on one, thee one I love/care about.
Stuff changed, when I first though of a new experience for the sub girl I dated some time ago. She was probably the most perverted girl I fucked to date and had almost no bounds whatsoever. I also knew she was bisexual, so eventually we came up with an idea of finding a girl, that will be humiliating her in bed, that will still enjoy my humiliation as well. I did not realise at that moment, that what we were doing was cuckqueaning whatsoever. However, that escalated very quickly and ended with my girlfriend not being allowed in bed unless we commanded her to, mainly she was forced to serve us when we fuck, the main parts being stuff like licking our feet/anal when we make love, we also called her names an were forcing to catch our spits with a mouth.
Anyway, point is, I came to cuckqueaning in an unusally way, mainly just looking for ways to humiliate my sub. It wasn't untill very recent, I realised, that what I was doing to her was an actual cuckqueaning.
So, for me it's mainly an act of humiliation of my girlfriend, rather that the enjoyment of fucking another woman/both simultaneously. I can't say it's my thing. So, now I'm into cuckqueaning, too, although I can't call it my maing thing and fetish.
Btw, a funny thing. We later on broke up with this chick for a different reasons outside of the bed. Recenly she wrote me she hates herself and me, because she wants the be cheated on now all the time. God, I wanked to this message a good hundred times, lol.
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No.5624
>>5617
I suppose becoming or learning you're a cuckquean is a one-way thing. It's a shame you broke up with her but on the plus side she did learn something about herself. Although she uses a strong word like hate, I think overall she will end up happier now she knows how to be more fulfilled.
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No.5628
>>5624
>becoming or learning you're a cuckquean is a one-way thing
It is, very much. So much so that it scares me sometimes.
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No.5665
>>5628
Overall being a cuckquean is very positive in comparison to other fetishes. Everyone involved benefits and it doesn't really have any downsides that I can think of. Where does your fear come from? Is it how quickly it takes you, the changes in your life, societal acceptance or something else?
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No.5670
>>5665
It's simply how irreversible it feels, not so much any anticipation of it doing me harm in the future.
>it doesn't really have any downsides that I can think of
Downsides, no. Risks, yes. This fetish is right out on the edges of emotional play, you know? Being a cuckquean isn't necessarily as straightforwardly wonderful a thing as you make out. Plenty of pitfalls exist in this fetish, even for those who are careful and aware. Things hiccup from time to time as you find out more about your own limits and those of your partner and when you do bang against those by accident, even if it doesn't do any actual damage, it still hurts when you hit them.
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No.5681
>>5665
>doesn't really have any downsides that I can think of
first one that I can think of, and that has been mentioned by other posters on this board, is the fear of being used by guys who don't want an actual relationship with the quean, instead just wanting a licence to cheat on her whenever they want
it's why a lot of people first focus on making sure their partner actually likes them and getting into a long-term relationship with them, to make sure they're sticking around for them, not their fetish even though I'm not a grill I can tell you first hand that being kept around someone you truly love for a long period of time solely because you both have a matching kink is heartbreaking once you find out they have no romantic feelings for you
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No.5687
>>5681
>fear of being used by guys who don't want an actual relationship with the quean, instead just wanting a licence to cheat on her whenever they want
This as well. There has to be a relationship first before one can be cucked. I discovered cuckqueaning while still in my current LTR so I don't know what it's like to be a single 'quean, but I imagine it's pretty confusing.
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No.5760
>>5681
That's horrible. I was wrong.
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No.5817
>>5107
I remember one of the authors of the kama Sutra (try to find a version that doesn't smoosh them all as one voice) described men as ether bulls birds or stallions and women as ether does, doves or cows.
I think it said if you want to get a doe be overly masculine and chase her or let her see you chase others. If you want a cow then make her warm and comfortable then overwhelm her with force.
Mmmm good book for a teen.
My view? I love the dominance of it. The idea that any sex is a threesome because in a way the queen is getting teased, and "fucked" even if she's tied up at home.
Like a good spanking, what others would consider abusive punishment makes her wet and submissive.
Pic related: gotta drop off the vixen before my queen escapes and plays with herself.
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No.5818
>>5817
Anon, you seem to have forgotten to clear the name field.
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No.6064
OP's question is a little silly and obvious.
So I have a followup question to bulls, as a fellow man: Have your standards for women gone up considerably after getting a cuckquean?
Mine have. I used to go for easy lays with average-looking women. Not so anymore. On one hand, I know that the hotter the woman the more flustered and aroused my cuckquean will be. On the other, I feel my ego boosted enough from all of this that I believe I can easily score with much hotter chicks than I used to go for. And the funny thing is that confidence actually works. I do score with them. And my cuckquean loves it.
I think since my cuckquean is a beautiful woman as well, she also has high standards for women as a bisexual. So in short, dating her is making me up my game.
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No.6283
>>6064
Yes, mine have. Although perhaps it's more like my standards for myself have gone up too. I now measure myself against a higher bar. I still enjoy fucking average girls who have personality and spunk but now I don't feel there's any reason not to go for the beautiful women too - and, whaddya know, lots of them have personality and spunk too. I've been in a long term relationship with my cuckquean for a long time now and only discovered her queanishness in the past year or two, so it's more like being with a cuckquean is making me develop game at all. It's fun and I think I'm better for it.
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No.6305
As a man, I just feel like my ultimate goal in life is to acquire as many mates as possible. Now that Traditionalism is out the window, I can build a harem as big as my wallet can support. I make 6 figures, so I can support 3 partners comfortably, at present.
However, one of those partners is special. She was with me when I was a flat broke student. She was there to cook for me and rub my back when I was taking finals. She was there to help me with last-minute projects. She was there to tie my tie when I went in for the job interview that landed me my 6 figure job right out of school.
That's what I like about cuckqueans. I've got 3 partners, but the other two COMBINED still aren't as valuable to me as my first, my wife. The only thing they have on her is sluttiness. For every single other thing, my cuck wins.
The hardest part, for me, about being married to a cuckquean, is having to lie to her and tell her how much better the other two girls are at everything. Because she needs to feel like she's the bottom of the totem pole. The omega female. The group's punching bag. Our glorified maid.
But in reality, she's our queen, not just our quean.
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No.6308
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No.6309
>>6305
>She was with me when I was a flat broke student. She was there to cook for me and rub my back when I was taking finals. She was there to help me with last-minute projects. She was there to tie my tie when I went in for the job interview that landed me my 6 figure job right out of school.
Are you me? This is exactly how I feel about my own cuckquean. She's been with me from square one, when we were both rationing our rice to see if we could afford a coffee that week or not. Now that I'm pretty well-off she's still my pearl of great price. She's always going to be my unalterable #1 no matter how great the other pussy gets and I'd give all this up in a heartbeat if it was a choice between it and her. Just don't tell her I said that.
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No.6310
so girls actually post on this board?
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No.6312
>>6310
No, it's all an elaborate ruse.
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No.6315
>>6305
>I make 6 figures
Very nice anon. Well done.
>having to lie to her and tell her how much better the other two girls are at everything
I will likely base a future post/story on that. It's so cute I can barely deal with it..
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No.6328
>>6305
You sticked with her and were rewarded. Unlike that degenerate pothead hippy, Keith Richards.
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No.6891
I was raised by parents who very strongly believed in social darwinism and racial realism. It's only natural for a strong male to ensure his genes are spread as widely as possible, and I want a large family to make up for the population decline in the white race.
So I started out by visiting a Mormon church. I'm not Mormon, but I attended often enough that I picked up on a few of their quirks, just enough to blend in. I was young, clean cut, hard working, and white, so I was readily accepted, no questions asked. I eventually singled out a girl I thought was pretty and young enough to be impressionable and started dating her. Between her Mormon upbringing and my own influence, she soon became a race realist and right-winger too, and after about a year we got married.
Then her parents found out I wasn't actually a Mormon and demanded that we get a divorce. When we refused, she was actually excommunicated from the church and her family acts as if she died or something, which left me as literally her only support in the world. As a result of her treatment, she's abandoned Mormonism entirely and is now a non-denominational Christian.
So we moved away, where Mormons wouldn't recognize us and treat us like shit, we both wanted a big family, and she eventually warmed up to the idea of my getting a second wife to make our family bigger; her dad had two wives, so she was already pretty comfortable with the concept of polygamy.
So we shopped around, as it were, and found another Christian community that followed the 'quiverfull' philosophy and started attending church there. I selected a handful of girls who caught my eye and she helped me narrow it down from there; eventually we started asking girls out together. The first two rejected us (one because she was anti-polygamy, the other because she just wasn't interested), but the third was a success. We got the blessing of the church community and I had my second wife. Even though my first wife and I aren't members of the church, since we have different beliefs, unlike the Mormons we're still accepted in the community, partly because my second wife is a church member and partly because their philosophy is that nobody is going to agree 100% on theology so why quibble over details? We all read the same Bible, so what more do you need?
My first wife is pregnant with my first child, and both girls are grooming another to become my third bride once she turns 18; I don't need or want a fourth because that's just too much. I hope to have four or five kids at least, preferably more. No worries about affording so many kids; my job is decent, the wives can take turns being stay-at-home moms (one wife pregnant/nursing, another staying home to help out, and the third working part time to supplement income, swapping out as needed), and the community helps families that aren't financially stable enough to support their children (which aren't many).
If you want, I can have my wives answer any questions you have.
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No.6894
>>6891
>both girls are grooming another to become my third bride once she turns 18
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No.6899
>>6891
Congratulations on your marriages and I wish you and your wives a long, bountiful, and blessed life! Your ambition to have three wives but no more would be approved of by the Zulu, who say that one wife is too much for any man to handle, two wives are worse because they can gang up on him or demand he mediate their quarrels, but among three wives two can bicker while one watches and thus their husband's life will be peaceful and happy.
I'm most interested in the everyday household and sexual logistics of the situation. How do your wives get along day-to-day? What are their thoughts on the situation? Do they share bed duties or only ever take turns? How big do you and they want your eventual family to be? Have you had issues between your wives and how were they solved?
Just more of what you (and they) want to talk about would be good.
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No.6910
>>6899
>Everyday household logistics
First wife is 3 months pregnant, so she's staying at home at the moment, getting it ready for the baby. Second wife is working a part time job in a bed-and-breakfast owned by one of the church elders; she'll be transitioning to the house once the first wife is further along in her pregnancy so she can help her out.
Third wife will turn 18 next month, hope to have the wedding shortly afterward. She'll be working while the other stay at home with the baby.
>How do they get along?
Pretty well. A HUGE part of making polygamy work is finding someone your first wife will get along with. They were friends before we proposed (first wife and I proposed courtship together, then mutually decided she was the one for my second wife), and now they're more like sisters than anything else. They share chores equally, but my first wife is clearly the head of the household in my absence; she manages the logistics (groceries, what needs done, etc.) and gives orders, the junior wife obeys. Like I said, there was a little friction at first, but they've sorted out the pecking order.
>Sex
Obviously, when it was just my first wife, she was my sole source of sexual relief, and she was raised to always give her husband what he needs without complaint. Likewise with the second. We had a mutual agreement that the first week of marriage would be the honeymoon period for my 2nd wife, and I had sex with her exclusively while my 1st wife slept in a different room.
Afterward, it was a little awkward at first; they didn't mind sharing me, but they were insistent on taking turns, one sharing my bed and the other sleeping alone. I finally got them both into bed with me on the condition we would just sleep, no sex, and they eventually got used to the arrangement; one would leave the room whenever I had sex with the other.
Finally, I got them to agree to a threesome for my birthday and that broke the ice. Now we all sleep in the same bed; usually I only have sex with one of them while the other reads or watches us, but occasionally I do get both involved. They have no interest in lesbian activity, but I can get them to kiss each other.
The plan is for the 3rd wife to get the same honeymoon period of exclusive sex, and then she's just going to have to get used to sharing the bed with all of us. Yes, we special-ordered a huge bed to fit 4 people.
>How big do you want your family?
2 kids per wife. More as God wills it, but I'd like to keep it manageable.
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No.6911
>>6910
Continued
>What are their thoughts on the situation?
I'd have to ask them for specifics, but generally, the man is the master of the house and the wife's duty is to love, obey, and give him children. They don't mind sharing me; they see it as natural (one lion gets a pride of lionesses, one stallion gets a herd of mares, etc.) as well as Biblical (a LOT of people in the Old Testament had multiple wives and concubines, so clearly God doesn't have a problem with it.). They seem pleased to be married to a man who can obtain more than one wife, as if the more women I have, the more desirable I am; within the community, men with multiple wives are very much a status symbol with their wives, and other women always seem to admire them; after all, if a guy can get multiple women to marry him, he must have SOMETHING going for him.
>Resolving issues between wives
Generally, the junior wife defers to the senior, who defers to me. They may argue between each other, but my decisions are final. If they simply won't agree on something, I resolve it as best I can and they have to respect my decision; if one is clearly in the wrong and refuses to back down, she gets disciplined. Usually this involves bending her over my knee, hiking up her dress, and spanking her. Disciplining your wife is approved of within the community; men are expected to keep their women in line and enforce good behavior, and women are expected to submit to their husbands. The one and only time they both tried to gang up on me and force me to bend to their will, they BOTH got spanked. That shit don't fly in my house; if your woman gets bratty, that'll lead to nothing but trouble, same as bratty children.
Fortunately, disciplinary action is rare (I can count the number of times I've had to do it on one hand), they resolve 90% of disagreements without my input, and the other 10% I just voice my position on the matter and it's settled. Resolving a dispute between them is usually a matter of them asking me what I think.
They get along pretty well though, and genuinely like each other (like I said, it's a sisterly relationship), so I'm rarely bothered by such things.
The biggest issue is making sure they both get equal amounts of attention from me and feel equally loved. There were definitely some jealousy issues shortly after the 2nd marriage, but those have been smoothed over and they're both looking forward to adding the 3rd wife in the near future. They picked her out themselves.
>>6894
1st is 21, 2nd is 19, 3rd will soon be 18. I'm 28, for reference.
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No.6912
>>6911
>The biggest issue is making sure they both get equal amounts of attention from me and feel equally loved.
I cannot stress this enough. People fantasize about having multiple wives/a harem and think it's nothing but sexual bliss, but reality is WAY different.
First of all, I'm only human, and not a sexual juggernaut; usually I only have sex once a day, so the girls either take turns or defer to the other if they're not in the mood. Usually if one doesn't feel up to it, the other does; all three of us are of the opinion that if the man NEEDS sex and neither wife is into it, that's just too bad and one of them has to take one for the team. That rarely happens though. Sometimes I'm up for pleasing both of them in the same night; sometimes I just don't feel like it. Yes, really; it IS possible for a man to just not feel like having sex.
But it's definitely a constant balancing act, making sure both wives feel loved and get equal amounts of attention from me; there may be seniority/a pecking order between them, but I'm not playing favorites and I don't want them to think that I am.
So when one gets sex, I always have to make sure the other does too (even if it's the next day). If I bring home flowers or a gift, they both get things of equal value. If I do something special with one, like her take her out sightseeing, I do something special with the other.
Like I said, there were definite jealousy issues shortly after the 2nd marriage, where each felt neglected in favor of the other, but they acclimated to the situation and I learned how to keep them both happy. It was NOT easy, and anyone who is serious about having multiple wives needs to think long and hard about it. Probably a third of the households in the community are polygamous, and some of them have some serious issues, such as wives hating each other, husbands playing favorites, etc. One guy even married his wife's cousin just to piss her off. That shit ain't right.
Harmony and balance is the key. Not everyone can achieve it, even if polygamy is right for them.
And polygamy is NOT right for everyone; there are women who just don't want to share their husband and want him exclusively, men who want to devote themselves solely to their only wife, etc. And sometimes, particularly with the women, they THINK they're ok with something until they actually get into it and then reality proves them wrong. Divorce is frowned upon (you basically can't get one unless your husband cheats on you with a woman who isn't married to him, beats you, or abuses the kids), but the elders will often allow an anullment if a 2nd/3rd wife decides to back out within the first few months of marriage. It's not for everyone, so there's no stigma to it, the new wife is just quietly 'separated' and can either remarry or stay single. Most who do separate move to a different community, just to avoid any unpleasant implications (ie, gossipy old women who call her a slut for marrying more than one man).
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No.6913
>>6912
I'm so glad you covered this. Most men who idly consider how great polygyny would be are just having idle fantasies and haven't thought seriously about how it would actually work. You need to be a particular kind of man who is married to a particular kind of woman, and even then you need to carefully work to build harmony. But it certainly is possible and when it works it works very well.
The importance of the balancing act and being even-handed in your affection is something I hear over and over from successful polygynists, to the point I've even seen it given its own chapter in a book about polygyny intended for an African audience, as well as mentioned over and over in those written for Islamic audiences. (I think it's a shame that polygyny in white Western thought has no such body of experience and knowledge outside of the whole "ethical slut" subversion, but that's something I hope to correct one day.) We had a thread long ago at >>1001 where a Bruneian woman who was the third of three wives described many of the same dynamics you have.
If they are comfortable doing so, I'd love to hear your wives describe things from their perspective in their own words.
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No.6915
>>6891
>calls himself Christian
>is polygamous
>does not even remove kebab to make it up
Have you killed at least 12 muslims to be entitled a second wife?
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No.6916
>>6913
Seriously, that's the most stressful part of the relationship, and the only help I got on the matter was a few words of advice from other men with multiple wives. Not all of them successful, but hoping I learned from their experiences.
I'll see if I can get one or the other of my little ladies to share their thoughts on the matter.
>>6915
>Tried to enlist right out of high school
>"Sorry, we've got too many enlisted personnel; come back when you have a degree, we could really use some officers and you've got the aptitude for it"
>Get a $60k job right out of college and now pull in $100K
I fight kebab by voting for Trump, telling everyone about how much we need to control immigration, and doing my best to outbreed them.
How many kebabs have YOU removed?
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No.6917
>>6915
I think he's fighting on a different front of that war.
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No.6918
>>6913
I'm copying my wives' responses; I just told them "people on the internet are curious", as a cuckquean board would just insult them; hell, I only posted in here because I thought to myself, "yeeeeaaaah, and how many of these people have actually been in a relationship multiple women?"
Wive #1:
>I grew up in a polygynist household; my mother was Momma and my dad's second wife was Momma-First Name. Same went with all the kids; their biological mother was just Momma and they called the other wife by her first name, preceded by Momma. So I sort of saw a man having multiple wives as normal growing up.
>Into our 2nd year of marriage, my husband asked what I thought about him getting a 2nd wife. Admittedly, I was a little hurt at first; wasn't I good enough for him? But then 'multiple wives is normal' kicked in, and I missed being part of a big family; I had 9 siblings and 2 moms growing up, and the house just felt empty with just the 2 of us. So I said sure, and we started shopping around in the community we'd moved into, which was already polygamy-friendly.
>My husband picked a few girls he thought were pretty and would like to get to know better, so I scoped them out. I became friends with most of them, he got to know them better, and we weeded out the ones neither of us felt were compatible. Eventually, we mutually decided to approach one girl on the subject of being courted by my husband; I put the idea forward and it was soundly rejected. She didn't want to share a man. A few weeks later, we decided on another and I again approached the topic; she wasn't into him. A few weeks after that, we tried another girl and she was open to the idea, so she and my husband started courting and eventually she agreed to join us in marriage.
>We're still friends with the first two girls, by the way. They're perfectly ok with us, one just isn't romantically interested and the other doesn't want a poly relationship. And that's fine, it's not for everyone.
>After *2nd wife* joined us, it got pretty rough for a while. I'd been married to my husband for 2 years by then, and was used to the status quo. Suddenly introducing another person into the family and having to share my space, time, and husband with her was… jarring. He showered her with attention at first, trying to make her comfortable as part of our family, and yes, I got jealous. I felt like I was being abandoned for her.
>We never really disliked each other or quarreled though, we just had a lot of anxiety and stress. Eventually, my husband found a way to balance the relationship and make us both feel equally loved and appreciated, and now everything's fine. We'd discussed adding a 3rd wife, but I was actually the one who brought it up as a serious matter and eventually all 3 of us agreed that a 3rd wife would be welcome.
>We should be able to avoid the problems we had after *2nd wife* joined us this time around, both because my husband knows how to do the balancing act now and because both of us understand and have discussed it with *3rd wife*
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No.6919
>>6918
Wife #2:
>I didn't grow up in a house with multiple wives, but a lot of my friends did; probably a third of the families in the community have multiple wives. 2 is most common, more than 3 is rare, and the most is one of the elders, who has 5; 2 of whom he married after their first husband, his brother, died. So having a huge number of wives is pretty rare, and most people just have one.
>I was already friends with *1st wife* when she approached me and asked how I felt about joining her family. It was a surprise at first; I saw it every day, but I never really thought about being a part of that before. I really did like her as a friend though, and I did like *husband* as a friend, so I tentatively agreed to it.
>*Husband* courted me, which basically means we went out on dates. Sometimes just the two of us, sometimes all three of us. I got to know both of them better, and eventually I decided that being part of their family was the right thing for me, so I said yes to their marriage proposal.
>Yeah, it got awkward after the wedding. *Husband* tried to make me feel at home by going the extra mile to do nice things for me and pay attention to me, and *1st wife* kinda felt left out. Then he overcompensated trying to be affectionate with her and I felt like a third wheel.
>Eventually, we figured out what we were doing and things are just peachy now. My… I guess sister-wife, since our relationship is pretty similar to what I have with my sisters, there's no set term for it, and I like each other very much, and we both love our husband and know he loves us.
>I think a lot of women just don't understand how a man can have more than one wife and love them both; they think it's just about sex. Whenever someone asks me about it, I always say, "do you love one child more than you love another?" Most women in the community have multiple children, so that always gets to them. 'Degenerate' women, to borrow *husband*'s term, who sleep around with a bunch of men outside of marriage, and either don't have children or get an abortion, just don't seem to understand. I think a lot of them simply don't understand love itself; they're all damaged goods who've never had a healthy relationship.
>And really, loving multiple wives really is a lot like loving multiple children. Jesus is father and husband to the church, and a man is father and husband to his family. A woman lives under her father, and then she lives under her husband; one is a loving relationship of stewardship, the other is a loving relationship of mutual procreation.
>One thing that seemed to really shock women from outside the community was when I mentioned that my husband had spanked me a couple times early in the marriage, when I acted out. They just couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that it wasn't abuse; yes, it hurts while it happens, but there's no harm to it. He's not punching me or beating me. And it's not abuse because I submitted to it; women are kind of like overgrown children, and their husband is like their father. If he doesn't discipline his household, then who will?
>And don't misunderstand me; I'm not saying women are like children because we're all stupid or immature or something. We're emotional, we're silly, and it's our natural place to submit to the 'adult' in our lives, whether our parents or husband. A woman can spend all day dancing, singing, and playing games with little children; a man would go insane and tell the kids to play quietly in the corner while he did something constructive. We're built for raising children, mentally and physically, and we're closer to children as a result. So if we misbehave, our husband is right to put us back in our place, just like a father or mother would do with a naughty child.
>I still have yet to see anyone outside the community accept that being spanked by my husband wasn't abuse; then again, most of them seem to think spanking children is abuse, and look at how messed up kids are these days. One might think there's a correlation.
>In fact, the only ones who really accepted that being spanked when I misbehaved was ok were the ones who thought of it as a sexual fetish, and then as part of some sado-masochistic thing. I don't get that. I don't find being choked, spanked, whipped, tied up, or any of that appealing and I think the people that do are broken somehow.
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No.6921
>>6918
>a cuckquean board would just insult them; hell, I only posted in here because I thought to myself, "yeeeeaaaah, and how many of these people have actually been in a relationship multiple women?"
Why would they be insulted? I suppose "cuckquean" still has a lot of negative baggage as a term thanks to male cuckoldry.
The norm here seems to be to require emotional exclusivity but to get off on sexual non-exclusivity, usually because we want our men to have as much pleasure as they can. The motivation for this board's population (not counting the pass-throughs and spectators) seems to skew compersive (joy in partner's joy) rather than humiliation. True polygynous relationships worth their salt are rare to begin with so it's no surprise there isn't going to be a lot of people coming here with experience of a sustained polygynous household.
For my part, I have noticed a lot of parallels between the skills and attributes a man needs to be successful in polygyny and those a man needs to be successful within a cuckqueaning dynamic.
>>6918
>>6919
I'm so happy to be able to read your wives' words. Your first wife's recounting especially matches up with nearly every other account I've heard from first wives whose marriages came to include another woman. Both are lucky to have grown up seeing polygyny to help buffer the shock.
This part is particularly interesting to me:
>*Husband* tried to make me feel at home by going the extra mile to do nice things for me and pay attention to me, and *1st wife* kinda felt left out. Then he overcompensated trying to be affectionate with her and I felt like a third wheel.
It's rare in all interviews and literature to hear of what didn't work, and this swing between over-compensation on either end before settling on what actually worked rings very true for me, especially given it mirrors what's already happened to us a few times while doing cuckqueaning.
>'Degenerate' women, to borrow *husband*'s term
kek
>I still have yet to see anyone outside the community accept that being spanked by my husband wasn't abuse
This is also interesting. Domestic Discipline is making headway after a careful evolution from its D/s mixin and a rediscovery of its traditional roots. My own society generally views consensual things like spanking as punishment as very much the business of the husband and wife - if she feels it's abusive, then she must seek help but otherwise it's something to be done between them behind closed bedroom doors. A household is the business of that household. A black eye or bruises elsewhere are a completely different matter!
>I don't find being choked, spanked, whipped, tied up, or any of that appealing and I think the people that do are broken somehow.
Oi now, ouch. Stones and glass houses come to mind. It's understandable, though - general perceptions of BDSM practices are very skewed and one generally needs to do a lot of deep understanding with actual experience before they can approach the truth of such dynamics. But that's irrelevant.
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No.6922
>>6919
Regarding soon-to-be wife #3:
Wife #1:
>Both *2nd wife* and I polled any prospective girls, and she was really set on having her best friend be our new 'sister'. Her friend came from a polygamous household, 2 moms, just like me, so she saw it as normal. I was already good friends with her since she was my 'sister's' best friend, and adding her to the family just felt natural. Like she already belonged.
Wife #2:
>Yeah, growing up I never really thought of sharing a husband with another woman, but it wasn't weird to me either. Once we decided on adding another wife to the family, I knew exactly who it wanted it to be.
>She was a little confused when I first approached her with the idea, but after we talked about it she was really into it. She'd always just sort of assumed her future husband would have more than one wife, and she was really glad that it would be me; we've always been best friends growing up, and now we get to be best friends together in one big family.
On sharing the bed/sex:
Wife #1:
>Woof. That was a huge part of what made adding another wife awkward. The sleeping arrangement and sex. We were both friends before marrying, but neither of us was really comfortable sleeping together, much less having sex while someone else was in the room. It was really awkward, taking turns sleeping with *Husband* and sleeping alone in the guest room, getting jealous if the one was getting it more than the other, etc.
>Eventually, *Husband* put his foot down and we all slept in the same bed together for a couple weeks. If he wanted sex, it happened before we all went to bed, just to avoid awkwardness. Once we got used to sharing a bed together (husband between us two girls), it became normal. Then my husband simply had sex with one of us (I think it was me) while the other sort of awkwardly laid next to us, said goodnight, and went to sleep.
>After that, it just became normal for us to share the same bed while he had sex with one or both of us, and we got comfortable being nude together and seeing/being seen having sex.
Wife #2:
>Yeah, that was so awkward at first. Now we're used to it. I, for one, wouldn't want to go back to how we did it at first.
>I think what really cemented our relationship, in bed, was when *1st wife* whispered advice to me and egged me on while I was having sex with *Husband*. That's when we really just gelled as a… trio?
>I was holding her hand when he impregnated her. It was as much of a moment for me as for her and him. I hope both my 'sister's' hold my hands when it's my time to make a baby. That's what really makes this a loving relationship, I think; we all encourage and support each other, and we mutually care for each other.
Wife #1:
>*3rd wife* is going to get the same honeymoon period we got, where it's just her and *Husband*. She deserves to have him to herself some, and it's important that your time with your new husband/bride be special, just between you.
>After that, we're all sleeping in the same bed. We're not doing that 'go in the other room while your husband has sex with his other wife' crap.
Wife #2:
>Definitely. We're not going to all have sex together, not at first; we want her to get used to being part of the family. I definitely was better off being eased into sharing a bed with *1st wife* before either of us started having sex in front of the other.
Wife #1:
>I don't know how other families do it, but both my father's wives slept in separate rooms, and he sleeps with a different wife on alternating nights, unless one 'has a headache'. Personally, I find sharing the bed to be much more natural and convenient.
On sex with each other:
Wife #1:
>Ew. No. Definitely not. I don't think it's a sin within the confines of marriage, especially if it's for our husband's pleasure and not our own, but I just don't feel that way about women, even *2nd wife*.
>We kiss, we'll give each other foot and back rubs, and we'll sometimes hold hands while our husband has sex, but sex for us is definitely a one-on-one heterosexual thing.
Wife #2:
>Agreed. And I do think it's a sin, even within marriage. I don't mind watching *1st wife* and *Husband* have sex, I'll even admit to enjoying it almost as much as having sex myself, but actually doing anything sexual with her is just… gross.
>Sorry, I like penis, not vagina.
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No.6923
>>6922
>I think what really cemented our relationship, in bed, was when *1st wife* whispered advice to me and egged me on while I was having sex with *Husband*. That's when we really just gelled as a… trio?
>I was holding her hand when he impregnated her. It was as much of a moment for me as for her and him. I hope both my 'sister's' hold my hands when it's my time to make a baby. That's what really makes this a loving relationship, I think; we all encourage and support each other, and we mutually care for each other.
Okay, wow, I think this just made me blow a fuse somewhere. This sort of thing has been a fantasy of mine for-fucking-EVER. Good work making them discover that they preferred sharing a bed.
> I just don't feel that way about women, even *2nd wife*.
>actually doing anything sexual with her is just… gross.
>I like penis, not vagina.
And that's another correlation. I've also got zero interest in doing sexual things with other girls even though I love watching them with my man. I've thought about it, hard, but the urge just ain't there. I don't want to. Not happening. Lots of cuckqueans do have a bisexual element in them but not me.
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No.6925
>>6921
They would be insulted by the cuckold implication. Cuckqueaning, so far as I can tell, is essentially a masochistic denial of the self in favor of elevating another. I don't see humiliation or "you're less worthy" as healthy or natural, and neither would they. I guess that's where the fetish and an actual polygynous marriage differ.
>It's rare in all interviews and literature to hear of what didn't work, and this swing between over-compensation on either end before settling on what actually worked rings very true for me, especially given it mirrors what's already happened to us a few times while doing cuckqueaning.
Perfect relationships and getting it right the first time only happens in fanfiction. Real life is much messier and involves a lot of trial-and-error.
>This is also interesting. Domestic Discipline is making headway after a careful evolution from its D/s mixin and a rediscovery of its traditional roots. My own society generally views consensual things like spanking as punishment as very much the business of the husband and wife - if she feels it's abusive, then she must seek help but otherwise it's something to be done between them behind closed bedroom doors. A household is the business of that household.
That's exactly how we feel. Like I said, I can count the number of times I've spanked both wives combined on one hand, and then only when they really got out of line (basically, when there was a lot of friction between them early on). It worked. Neither wanted another spanking and they got the message, just like when your kid fucks up and you swat his rear to teach him not to do that.
Domestic Discipline, in my experience, is almost exclusively a Christian thing, and almost always an offshoot like the "quiverfull" movement or the snake-handlers (who even we think are insane). It used to be much more common, but basically died out in the 60's with the "women's liberation movement". Which both my wives will agree was NOT liberation.
>A black eye or bruises elsewhere are a completely different matter!
Definitely. Discipline is one thing, abuse is another. Our community (basically an unincorporated town of about 400 families in the middle of nowhere) will call the police for serious matters, but otherwise we handle things internally. Tommy shoplifts a candy bar? He's sweeping and mopping the store and emptying the trash every day for a month to make up for it. Somebody gives his wife a black eye? He gets pulled aside for a private talk with the elders on how to correct his behavior. Once, since we moved here a little over two years ago, there was a guy who made it a habit to get drunk and whip his wife with an extension cord; she tried to hide it, but the kids blabbed at school. Her father, brothers, and cousins took him behind the shed for what was termed a 'come to Jesus meeting'. He wasn't seen in public for a week, and when he did he had fading bruises and a nose that had obviously been broken. That set him straight for a few months, but then he got back into drinking and whipped her again.
He had to move out of the county and as agreed upon with the elders, she got everything in the divorce. He didn't have much choice. Nobody's been lynched in living memory, but the fact that it did happen ONCE makes one consider the possibility it may happen again if less strenuous corrective measures fail.
Ironically, they weren't the only black family in the community.
>Oi now, ouch. Stones and glass houses come to mind.
Her words, not mine. Believe me, I very much understand, considering how my relationship with my wives is misunderstood and maligned. Everyone seems to think it's a sexual thing exclusively, and they all seem to think I'm some sort of domineering, abusive tyrant. Wife #1 actually manages the household expenses, organization (furniture, groceries, etc.), I just get final say in all decisions (rubber stamping, most of the time) and bring home the biggest paycheck. We've all got a division of responsibilities and it works for us.
As an aside, both my wives and I saw Re:Zero and loved it, and are taking turns reading the first book (I think only the first two are available in English so far). We all agree that Rem is best girl, and the idea that she's willing to accept Emelia as co-wife (which we got from TV Tropes, so I'm not sure how accurate that actually is) with Subaru intrigues us. It's so rare to see that sort of thing in popular fiction; the closest I've seen otherwise is harem anime, and that's always a "which girl will he choose" plot, usually with no final resolution because the writers are pussies and the producers want to keep milking the cash cow for as long as possible.
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No.6926
>>6923
When we have sex, it's very much a one-on-one thing, while the other wife just sort of sits nearby. They'll hold hands, encourage each other, cheer me on, etc., and every now and then one will give me oral or fuck me cowgirl style while the other makes out with me, but that's the closest we've come to what most people would think of as a threesome, and that's really only a recent development. Usually the wife I'm not having sex with is either watching or doing her own thing, like reading or surfing the web.
I usually alternate between them, but it's not set in stone; sometimes one will give up her turn if the other really wants it or she just doesn't feel like it. Now that they're not jealous of each other anymore, they're much more comfortable swapping out.
About once a week, I'll have sex with both of them, one after the other. Sometimes more often, sometimes less. Just when and as the mood strikes us. Sometimes they both need some love and I've little choice but to give it to them both. I think sometimes they enjoy wearing me out.
It's very rare that neither of them wants sex, and when that happens I usually just accept it and go to sleep. Once or twice, I have NEEDED it and one of them took one for the team.
>And that's another correlation. I've also got zero interest in doing sexual things with other girls even though I love watching them with my man.
It's very much a husband-and-wife relationship, at least with us. There's no wife-and-wife interest at all. Though they do occasionally kiss each other, just for me, before moving on to taking care of my needs.
Something that has, oddly, never come up in conversation with people is:
>If you spank your wives to discipline them for getting out of line, what happens when you get out of line?
First off, wives have a way of making a husband's life a living hell if he pisses them off. Second, if I did anything seriously out of line, 2nd Wife's daddy would hear about it and I'd get a very serious conversation about my behavior.
So far, I've been good.
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No.6927
>>6925
It sounds like your community has a strong idea of itself. That's a good thing. I feel that the push towards macro-statism is eroding the society and customs upon which all good systems of law and justice rest. I can understand the distrust towards such things though, considering I've seen it operate not as a wise and restrained system of intervention but in kangaroo court style. Still, I am sure your community has its shit together.
>Cuckqueaning, so far as I can tell, is essentially a masochistic denial of the self in favor of elevating another. I don't see humiliation or "you're less worthy" as healthy or natural, and neither would they. I guess that's where the fetish and an actual polygynous marriage differ.
Actually, we distinguish between two main types of cuckqueaning: Compersive cuckqueaning and humiliation-driven cuckqueaning. Humiliation-driven cuckqueaning is what you describe, and usually seeks denigration in favour of elevating the vixen (other woman). It very closely resembles male cuckolding dynamics.
Compersive cuckqueaning is done out of joy in the male partner's pleasure. One concise summary I saw was "I just love it when he fucks; doesn't matter if it isn't me he's fucking", which was in >>215 I think. This is the kind of cuckquean I am. I think if you could survey all cuckqueans in existence (including those who don't know the term) I think you'd find most are compersive. I think you'd find many parallels in your experience of a polygynous marriage and the experience of a man married to a compersive cuckquean. The reasons you hear more about the humiliation-driven ones are a) broadcasting their humiliation is part of their humiliation and b) it appeals to male cuckolds too ("look! they're like us!") and they in turn rebroadcast it.
So why do we share terminology? Because we have no other word. If we sliced ourselves down to micro-communities we'd never have anyone else to talk to. Even if we bicker about terminology, "cuckquean" serves as a beacon under which we gather to talk, for better or worse.
>It's so rare to see that sort of thing in popular fiction; the closest I've seen otherwise is harem anime, and that's always a "which girl will he choose" plot, usually with no final resolution because the writers are pussies and the producers want to keep milking the cash cow for as long as possible.
There are a few harem anime that deliberately subvert this by having one girl determined that the man is going to marry them all. One that stands out in my mind is Asobi no Iku yo! which was a very fun romp that ended with the three girls deciding they were going to all have their shared object of affection and damned be the consequences. Also, humanity got a space elevator. Another is Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou (aka Colour Wars) in which one of the girls thinks it would be improper for the man to have less than three girls, since he's going to be a future demon king.
>>6926
I think people realise that a strong wife needs a strong man, or they simply never question that a wife can assert herself if she needs to. For those who don't, external checks and escape routes are maintained.
That story about the cord-whipper, though. Ugh. I saw something similar except it didn't end as well for the woman even though she did manage to escape.
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No.6928
>>6927
> I can understand the distrust towards such things though, considering I've seen it operate not as a wise and restrained system of intervention but in kangaroo court style.
Oh believe me, I've seen it happen. I was friends with an Amish kid in college and he had all kinds of horror stories. That's why 1st Wife and I were very careful in selecting the community we moved into, to be certain their beliefs were largely compatible with ours and to be certain there weren't any shenanigans going on behind the scenes.
> I think you'd find many parallels in your experience of a polygynous marriage and the experience of a man married to a compersive cuckquean.
Have you considered polygyny then? Sounds like you might enjoy it, if your boyfriend/husband is getting his pleasure from the both of you. And it's just safer and healthier, rather than bringing strangers into it on a semi-regular basis. No risk of STD's, you know the vixen or whatever won't change her mind and freak out, or be into weird shit you're not into, etc.
As I said, it's not for everyone, but you might consider it.
Legally, polygamy is verboten here, so legally I'm only married to my first wife. The community recognizes my marriage to my second and soon to be third wives, however, and as long as we (my wives and I) and God are cognizant of the fact that we are a union, nobody else matters.
That's also why we're waiting until Wife #3 is 18; partly because we want to make sure she's going into this as an informed adult, and partly because outside of marriage it would count as statutory rape if I had sex with her. If I could legally marry her, then I wouldn't have to wait since the age of consent within a marriage is 14.
That's, uh… that's a little TOO young for me, thanks. High school girls might be cute and perky, but they've got all the brains God gave a gnat and all the maturity of a 6 year old boy on a sugar high.
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No.6929
>>6928
>Have you considered polygyny then? Sounds like you might enjoy it, if your boyfriend/husband is getting his pleasure from the both of you. And it's just safer and healthier, rather than bringing strangers into it on a semi-regular basis. No risk of STD's, you know the vixen or whatever won't change her mind and freak out, or be into weird shit you're not into, etc.
We're actually very careful about selecting vixens since there's no way my man's going to stick his dick in crazy. He much prefers forming long-lasting play partnerships with vixens. But that aside, there are a few barriers to just "trying" polygyny. (How would we try it anyway? "Sorry second wife, we've decided polygyny isn't for us, you're out on your ass now despite having formed an attachment to him.") Most of them might be removed if I'd seen how polygyny works as I grew up, but the number of examples was… zero! No positive, no negative.
Emotional exclusivity is a big part. I know it must sound very strange for me to let my man form sexual (and thus emotional; let's not hide it) bonds to other girls but I have never once felt his heart is anyone's but mine. Another is family and society - we, unlike you, do not live in a remote community where polygyny is routinely practiced. Considering the amount of misunderstanding and denigration I encounter about cuckqueaning and the care with which I must hide it (or risk social repercussions that would fall mainly upon my guy) I can't imagine what my, his, or her family's reaction would be. It's hard to maintain an unconventional arrangement like polygyny in the first place, let alone when your community and family regards it as a dangerous abberation.
I'm certain you understand all this, given the lengths you had to go to to form a foundation upon which you could successfully practice polygyny. So I'm sure you understand why I'm hesitant and also why the situation presents multiple roadblocks. But then, who knows what the future holds?
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No.6930
>>6929
All perfectly understandable. It certainly was a serious undertaking for us, and when I first set out looking for a wife, I still wasn't sure I'd be ok with more than one. Unlike my wives, I DIDN'T have a poly family to serve as an example, so I really felt like I was deviant and weird for wanting it.
And my family REALLY doesn't approve. They haven't disowned me like my first wife's family did after they found out I wasn't actually Mormon, but we definitely get some hostile looks when I bring both wives home for the holidays. Grandma is convinced that taking a second wife is a grave insult to my first wife and is thoroughly scandalized by it. Nobody else takes it to the lengths she does, but at least she's polite enough to call Wife #2 a "little homewrecker" where the three of us don't hear it. She's convinced that Wife #2 somehow seduced me with her feminine wiles, and Wife #1 is just too timid to do anything other than put up with it. The fact that we're going to be adding a third wife to the mix is causing no end of consternation, and I've gotten all sorts of lectures on how my 'lustful excesses' will hurt everyone involved.
But, judgemental as they may be, they still accept us as family, and that's what matters.
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No.6934
>>6922 (Checked)
>we'll sometimes hold hands
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No.6941
>>6934
>>6922
Spoiler such lewd greentext!
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No.6943
>>6934
>>6941
I-It's okay! Nobody would do something so lewd in real life. I'm sure she was just exaggerating or he was embellishing her account.
We must draw a limit somewhere. Things like that and pic related are just too much.
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No.6948
>>6943
I hope so!
Reading though the above posts really shows the difference between the cuckquean fetish and polygamy. For a start polygamy isn't even a sexual fetish at all. It seems to have nothing to do with (sexual) compersion or voyeurism and the girls seem to be treated as separate but equal. If you put a cuckquean in the same situation she'd like to see her husband focus on one girl for a longer period of time and wouldn't feel as left out due to enjoying the compersion. Of course anyone in a polygamous marriage is going to be happy that everyone else is happy, but not in sexual sense, more about the relationship and family doing well.
I love how pure the girls are that they see lesbian sex as sinful or even gross. I don't think it's right to criticise someone for being exclusively heterosexual and really dislike people who think having those views is backwards. I personally respect traditional views. However at the same time I do think girls should be with girls, so I like that husband anon has pushed them closer together. No offense to lesbians, but straight girls slowly and coyly deepening their friendship is so much hotter. Sorry >>6941 but I do hope husband anon's wives develop extremely deep friendships.
I think I'll probably write something in the future about a secret cuckquean in a polygamous marriage and how she influences and changes the other more righteous girls and her husband.
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No.6949
>>6948
>If you put a cuckquean in the same situation she'd like to see her husband focus on one girl for a longer period of time and wouldn't feel as left out due to enjoying the compersion.
I suppose this means I'm not a cuckquean and never was one.
Strange few years.
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No.6950
>>6949
I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
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No.6951
>>6948
Wife #2 did say she was turned on by watching me with Wife #1, but she has no sexual interest in Wife #1. I guess it's sort of how straight guys enjoy hard-core porn, even though they have no interest in the men in the videos.
Did we have any other questions for me or my wives?
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No.6967
>>6951
She would have never even been in that position if it wasn't for your insistence. You mentioned Re:Zero. Did you introduce them to anime too? I just find that hilarious, even though I do watch it myself, and would love to hear the story behind that. My only knowledge of polygamy aside from this thread is from watching Big Love. So I have this vision of them all sitting down to watch anime and then arguing about who is the best girl.
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No.6977
>>6967
Wife #1 was already into anime when I met her; it's one of the things that brought us together when we first started dating.
Wife #2 had to be introduced; her family is uber conservative and generally 2 decades behind the current social trend. Their VHS collection is growing and they still have CRT televisions. They finally replaced the Super NES when it broke though… with another Super NES. After all, an SNES is cheaper than a PS4, and they already have all the games and controllers, right?
They invite us over for board game night once a week. It's actually a ton of fun, especially considering how into it everyone gets. At one point we took six Risk sets and put them together to make one giant map and the war raged for two weeks straight (with everyone coming over to play almost daily) before I emerged as the winner… and only because Wife #1 teamed up with me to wipe out Wife #2 and her dad in the final stretch. It was glorious.
We all sit down on the couch (or the bed, depending) and marathon shows together. Wife #1 has seen stuff I haven't, and vice-versa, and we're both introducing Wife #2 to shows we like.
So far, as a family, we've watched Re:Zero (unanimous vote: Rem is best girl), Chobits, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Haruhi Suzumiya (vote is divided between Yuki and Mikuru as best girl; nobody voted for Haruhi. lol), Toradora, and Higurashi. And season one of Sword Art Online. Wife #1 is ok with it, but Wife #2 isn't comfortable with uber-violent shows or ones with overtly sexual themes, so we're easing her into it a little at a time.
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No.6978
>>6977 (Checked)
Oh wow that is so adorable. I personally can't stand retro technology in reality but I bet some people would think that is the coolest thing ever. Ironically it's very trendy. Do you ever try to upgrade them or would that be a faux pas?
I was going to ask about the big question (Asuka or Rei) but I see that will have to wait due to it possibly being too violent or disturbing?
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No.6980
>>6978
I've seen most of Evangelion, Wife #1 has seen a few episodes, always gets annoyed at the Christian imagery; not offended by it, just annoyed because "that's not accurate". I keep explaining that it's not supposed to mean anything, just look cool, but it still drives her nuts.
As for 'retro technology', they're up to date with modern computers and such, but her family is afraid modern society will corrupt them and try to limit its influence on their lives. Wife #2 had never had a cell phone until we got married; her dad is the only member of the family with a personal phone, only grudgingly because he needs it for work, and he's using an old flip-phone from a decade ago instead of a smart phone.
"It's a phone; it makes phone calls. Who needs e-mail, internet, and all that other crap on a phone? That's what your computer is for."
And as soon as he's off work, the phone gets shut off and doesn't turn on again until he's on his way to work in the morning.
They have a few DVD's, but can only watch them on their computers. Most of the time, they just use their VCR to watch something; don't even have live tv. "Need to control what kind of trash comes in your house, Anon."
Most of their entertainment is social; board games with the whole family, etc. Video games are only an occasional thing. Probably the most hilarious thing was when Wife #2's youngest brother, age 12, came over to our house, played Call of Duty for a few minutes, then shut it off, complained it wasn't "appropriate for children" and read a book instead.
That kid's gonna go far in life.
And yes, he thinks multiple wives is the ideal scenario, but being 12 he's not thinking with his big head, if you know what I mean.
Anyway, that's just how Wife #2's family is. Most of the community is up to date, with smart phones, etc. but a substantial minority prefer older technology because it's "less distracting" and "more reliable".
No shit, one of the elders runs both the church finances and his bed-and-breakfast's finances on an Apple Macintosh with grayscale monitor. From the friggin' 80's. I asked why he was using such an old computer and he shrugged and said, "It works fine, and I don't need any fancy new software just to keep track of financial records."
I pointed out that a new computer would run faster and store more data, and would be more versatile as he could also use it for things like e-mail, etc.
"Yeah. Say, how many times has Windows crashed on you this year? Didn't you have to reformat after your wife opened an e-mail with a virus in it?"
"Um…"
*sips his coffee* "S'what I thought."
He buys dot matrix printer paper in bulk so he has hard copy records. WHERE DOES HE EVEN FIND DOT MATRIX PRINTER PAPER?! How does he find ink cartridges compatible with an 80's printer?! Clearly he's more savvy/connected than he appears, but where does he find this shit?
Oh, and EVERYONE has a gun. I'm one of those people "clinging to his guns and Bible", but geez. Literally every house in the community I have ever set foot in has a pump or double-barrel shotgun by the front door or the kitchen door. Nobody locks their doors at night, but everyone keeps a shotgun handy in case someone comes in the yard or gets into the livestock (chickens and such are very popular here). Wife #2 actually got a .22 rifle as one of her wedding gifts.
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No.6981
>>6980
>that's not accurate
That made me laugh. For what it's worth you could explain that the Japanese don't mean anything by it. Like you say it's just lots of different imagery and metaphors thrown together, but that's clearer if you look at how they celebrate Christmas for example. There's absolutely no bad intent there at all, it's just been filtered through a different culture. It's like a homage in a way. I would recommend Rebuild of Evangelion. Hopefully no one from /a/ will turn up to insult me but I loved the updated visuals.
>afraid modern society will corrupt them
I don't own a TV and avoid MSM news (or lugenpresse as it is more often referred to now) so I can respect that.
>played Call of Duty for a few minutes, then shut it off
I love it. I agree with him but for different reasons. I recently trained one of my nephews to drop that casual console crap by lightly teasing him about only kids liking xbones. I think your wife's younger brother is a lot smarter than my nephew!
>Oh, and EVERYONE has a gun
I approve.
Anon, you are a gem. Your responses have been very interesting. I suppose old technology that works is now burned-in and will probably last a long time. Modern accounting software is terrible.
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No.6983
>>6981
>That made me laugh. For what it's worth you could explain that the Japanese don't mean anything by it.
Oh, she's fully aware it has no actual meaning and was just used for rule-of-cool and western symbolism is exotic. It just bugs her, is all.
>I don't own a TV and avoid MSM news (or lugenpresse as it is more often referred to now) so I can respect that.
Indeed. I don't even watch tv anymore.
>Anon, you are a gem. Your responses have been very interesting.
I try. And as I said, I only visited this board because I thought to myself, "how many of these people have actually had a relationship with multiple women, and how many are just LARPing on the internet?"
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No.6984
>>6983
Insomuch as one can call multiple casual sex relationships combined with one long-term relationship that, then I know for a fact that there is at least one. But having multiple simultaneous long-term relationships going is a different kettle of fish entirely, as has already been pointed out thoroughly and well. There are many suboptimal aspects of FWB relationships even when there's an LTR as well, and sometimes I find myself longing for polygyny instead.
I'm curious what your profession is. I'm in a similar income bracket to yours over the same period of time, but my work isn't compatible with living in a remote community.
>LARPing on the internet
>Live Action Role Playing on the internet
I assume it's just a deliberate corruption meme, but do you think most of /pol/ is aware of the absurdity of using LARP to refer to exclusively online actions?
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No.6985
>>6981
The funniest part is that ironically nips have a better understanding of the original purpose of Christmas. Saturnalia/Winter Solstice was a fertility fest.
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No.6986
>>6977
>Their VHS collection is growing
Should not they be de-mag'd at this point? I don't think I have a single VHS that is still working.
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No.6989
>>6983
I appreciate it. Now I'm trying to think of good questions for you while you're here.
>>6984
It's more absurd to think that they (or anyone else) don't understand exactly what they are saying. The idea is to conjure the image of stereotypical LARPers (wizards and elves running about in the woods) in your mind to make pretending online appear to be more ridiculous or pathetic. It's also a self-aware and ironic mockery of the people who do nothing in real life too. It's funny to imagine online LARPers creating the term "cuckservative" for example and changing the course of history. A deeper interpretation is the fear in the liberal mind that these inscrutable trolls actually are actually getting up to nefarious things in real life (eg frog posters are evil Russian agents) but it's too ridiculous or scary to admit it. Even the thought that meme magic is real is terrifying so it was an incredibly wise strategy to LARP that is it.
It think the gap between people who get this and the people who don't is quite wide.
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No.6991
>>6984
I can't say who I work for or describe my work in too much detail, because if they found out about the multiple wives thing it would end my career. It's discrimination if you fire a faggot for marrying another faggot, but a man marrying multiple women? Discriminate away!
But basically I do wildlife work and biological surveys, checking out the habitat and making note of things. It's easy enough that I can occasionally just take a day off while getting paid, goofing around in the field, but hard enough that you can't fake it and the one jackass that tried got found out pretty quickly.
Basically, I spend most of my day out in the middle of nowhere, tromping through fields, wading through streams, taking soil and water samples, recording wildlife, checking weather stations, etc. That's as specific as I can get without giving too much away.
>Should not they be de-mag'd at this point? I don't think I have a single VHS that is still working.
No? I've still got a bunch of VHS tapes from when I was a kid, and they all work just fine. Only issue is that my only VCR eats every tape you put into it, so I don't actually watch them anymore.
>The funniest part is that ironically nips have a better understanding of the original purpose of Christmas. Saturnalia/Winter Solstice was a fertility fest.
Saturnalia took place a week before Christmas. Christmas was timed to take place on Dec 25th because 3rd Century Christians celebrated the Annunciation (the angel telling Mary she was going to give birth to Jesus) on March 25th, and they went forward nine months to December 25th to figure out the birth date. It had nothing to do with the Winter Solstice (Dec 21) or Saturnalia (Dec 17), although modern day LARPagans and "mommy and daddy made me go to church as a kid instead of sleeping in so now I'm angry" atheists are very insistent that Christmas only exists to take over a pagan holiday. Ironically, the Roman holiday celebrating Sol Invictus (274 AD) didn't take place until AFTER early Christians had selected Dec 25th as the probable birth date of Jesus (200 AD). And many Orthodox and Coptic churches celebrate Christmas on Jan 7… because that would have been Dec 25 in the old Julian calendar that was originally used.
>I appreciate it. Now I'm trying to think of good questions for you while you're here.
I'll be checking in at least till New Year's.
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No.6996
>>6991
Do you go on vacations? If so how does that work?
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No.7000
>>6991
>a man marrying multiple women? Discriminate away!
This is also the reason I have to carefully conceal cuckqueaning. At best people would assume I'm cheating and thus that I have no integrity (goodbye career) and at worst I'd be considered a dangerous abuser if it were ever revealed I do it with the enthusiastic cooperation of my wife. Real psychopaths and narcissists cloak themselves in the benefit of the doubt but the moment a man's with more than one woman at a time and none of them seem to mind? Get the rope and popcorn!
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No.7001
>>6991
What is the largest number of wives that someone has in your community?
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No.7002
>>6991
>But basically I do wildlife work and biological surveys, checking out the habitat and making note of things.
>has multiple wives
You are living MY dream, anon. ; ~ ;
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No.7004
>>7000 (Very Checked)
While I agree that's true for many people, it's definitely different from multiple wives. It entirely depends on where you live and other factors but no one is publicly calling for the resignation of people who call themselves polyamorous for example (in contrast to the attacks on polygamists). However it's also true that what's currently PC and trendy is very different from what people actually believe, which means you might get fired anyway for any other reason they can come up with. The expectations of a more professional or upstanding person are different from those placed on a free-love hipster. Only those with "fuck you" money can rise above this.
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No.7006
>>6910
>then she's just going to have to get used to sharing the bed with all of us. Yes, we special-ordered a huge bed to fit 4 people.
But you only have 2 sides! With three wives, one will have to lose out every evening won't she?
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No.7007
>>7006
You're forgetting top and bottom, anon.
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No.7008
>>7007
If we're using that, then he has six sides: Left, right, hat, dog at end of bed, mattress, and blanket.
Better get busy, husband-Anon. Gotta outdo that elder!
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No.7009
>>7004
>It entirely depends on where you live and other factors
Since I know where I live and the other factors involved - yes, that's right. The same factors that apply to my cuckqueaning would likely apply to living polygynously. Some would accept it, but others would not. I might not get fired immediately, but I'd become known for it and would be mistrusted. In high-trust professions? That's a career-ender.
>polyamorous
Mixing Greek and Latin roots like that is absolutely disgusting. It's no wonder that it's used mainly by degenerates.
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No.7016
>>7008
Man, it's gonna get warm in that bed. You'll have to turn off the heat. Sucks to be the girls furthest out. Guess that'll encourage them to be better wives.
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No.7026
>>6996
Not since Wife #2; I'm taking a week off for the 'honeymoon' with Wife #3 after the wedding. Told my boss I was going to a wedding; didn't say it was MY wedding.
>>7000
Ironically, a guy who sleeps with a different woman every week after meeting them at a bar, getting drunk, and banging some slut without protection, is socially acceptable. A man who marries more than one woman and cares and provides for them for the rest of his life is seen as some sort of freak and yes, I absolutely can lose my job over it.
>>7001
I think it was previously stated, but 5; he's rather unusual. 3 wives of his own, and after his brother died he took on both of his wives. Everybody would have been fine with them just moving in so he could provide for them (he's in his 60's and they're both older than him and not in the best of health), but he's one of the more fundamentalist members of the community and insisted it wasn't right 'shacking up' with women he wasn't married to. There's nothing sexual/romantic between them.
>>7002
Honestly, all drama aside, my life IS pretty awesome.
>>7006
Usually we all spoon, or I cuddle one wife while the other is splayed out with the sheets kicked off because she moves like a spazz in her sleep. We'll figure something out.
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No.7028
>>6925
>the snake-handlers (who even we think are insane).
The who? I already knew about quiverfull but who are they?
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No.7029
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No.7030
>>7028
I believe he's referring to these nutters. It's an offshoot of Pentacostalism in which they've decided to take some obscure quote about snakes from the Bible super literal. They hold poisonous snakes while shaking them, dancing around, making lots of noise, and basically doing everything in their power to agitate the fuck out of the animals, with the belief that because of their faith, god will protect them and they won't get bitten and die. They get bitten and die a lot.
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No.7032
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No.7034
>>7032
It's true, if they start holding hands, they might start head-patting. Where will the spiral of degeneracy end?
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No.7036
>>7030
Yeah, those guys are legit off their rockers.
Some would even go so far as to call them heretics.
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No.7037
>>6891
>both girls are grooming another to become my third bride once she turns 18
Can you like teach me and give me guidance anon? Like seriously do you have some accessability?
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No.7040
>>7036
>heretics
Yeah, but technically, you could call anyone from a different denomination from you a heretic.
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No.7041
>>7040
That isn't how it works.
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No.7042
>>6891
No offence but two children per woman is only replacement level reproduction. Need at least three a piece.
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No.7045
>>7041
Uh, yes it is. A heretic is a believer in a religion, someone with an existing attachment to that dogma, but who's practices or beliefs somehow go against those espoused by the leadership or community of a specific religion. Heresy is how new denominations happen - someone is unsatisfied with how things are in their church and decides to try to reform or break away. To the catholic church, any christians who aren't catholic are heretics, they just don't like to say it nowadays because it's shit PR.
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No.7046
>>7042
It's only replacement level reproduction with one father per child, i.e. two parents have two children. One father with two wives, that's four children to three parents.
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No.7048
>>7045
Are Pentecostals heretics to Methodists?
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No.7049
>>7048
Would the methodists follow pentecostal doctrine? If the answer is no, then yes, they would consider them heretics, even if, again, they wouldn't want to use the word because it's a loaded term and they want to be diplomatic.
The differences seem like a lot of irrelevant crap and minutia to me, but armed conflict has arisen over whether or not one uses leavened or unleavened bread in their weird pretend cannibalism rituals.
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No.7051
>>7049
If you lack basic familiarity with these matters, as
>weird pretend cannibalism rituals
suggests, then it isn't a good idea to hold forth on them.
Although they don't follow Pentecostal doctrine nor are part of the Pentecostal community, the Pentecostals don't consider the Methodists heretics and the Methodists don't consider the Pentecostals heretics either. Both are branches of Protestant churches, whose beliefs are considered heresy by the Catholic church and some Orthodox churches. Nevertheless, these are all in compliance with the Nicene Creed, which is the tool you may use to spot the big flashing red light heresies.
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No.7054
>>7051
>lack basic familiarity
Thinking they're silly doesn't mean I lack basic familiarity with things related to the book of jewish fairytales.
You seem to be under the impression that the term 'heresy' belongs exclusively to christianity. That specific churches have their own operational definitions to define what qualifies as being enough of a contrary doctrine for them to want to make an official declaration of heresy doesn't change the actual definition of the word. Heresy is the adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma. If a member of a methodist congregation began trying to encourage pentecostal beliefs that ran contrary to methodist dogma, that would make them a heretic. So, by association, that would make pentecostals in general heretics. Just because the differences aren't so severe that they can have a 'live and let live' policy, tolerate one another, and not use a word loaded with intolerant connotations, doesn't change the basic meaning of the word.
I suppose it's possible that two groups that arose independently of one another would have no beliefs that run contrary to the dogmas of one another, but it seems like that would make them effectively the same denomination.
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No.7056
>>7046
>It's only replacement level reproduction with one father per child, i.e. two parents have two children. One father with two wives, that's four children to three parents.
Yes but if we assume that leaves one man who has no wife and so no kids that's actually four children to four human beings. Three kids a wife are needed.
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No.7057
>>7056
>>7046
It's also not replacement level to have two kids for each two parents anyway since people can and often will die of various shit before they breed.
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No.7059
>>7056
You can't go involving every person that doesn't breed into the equation. There's plenty of people that don't breed for any number of reasons. It's only leaving anyone out if you live in a society with an extremely limited population.
>>7057
Okay, but by that logic, there's no such thing as replacement level. You can have fifteen kids and have all die before they reach puberty. When people say replacement level, they're usually talking about potential population members/breeders.
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No.7060
>>7059
fertility rates are always measured as births per woman
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No.7061
>>7059
>You can't go involving every person that doesn't breed into the equation. There's plenty of people that don't breed for any number of reasons. It's only leaving anyone out if you live in a society with an extremely limited population.
Well unless you start importing lots of women from abroad it'll be an issue.
>Okay, but by that logic, there's no such thing as replacement level. You can have fifteen kids and have all die before they reach puberty. When people say replacement level, they're usually talking about potential population members/breeders.
You are not understanding. Two is only replacement level if nobody ever dies before having two more kids, all but impossible. The actual replacement level in a developed country is somewhere above 2 kids but less than three kids. Have three+ kids per woman if you want to be pedantic and that's fine.
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No.7062
>>7061
>>7059
Or basically there is a replacement level and you can work it out by looking at statistics. A quick look on wikipedia tells me the worldwide rate is 2.33 kids but that's obviously fucked with by places like Africa and China, I'd expect it to be lower in the developed world.
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No.7081
>>7062
>>7061
People are confusing the context of the original statement with the math of a stable all-polygamous community.
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No.7090
>>6951
Have you seen The Book of Mormon?
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No.7111
>>7048
No. Baptists, Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox, Pentecostals, etc. all share the same core beliefs, they just have slightly different interpretations, traditions, etc. One of my co-workers is a devout Catholic, and while his church traditions are very different from mine (we don't have saints, an equivalent to the pope, or any of that sort of thing and aren't nearly as big on pomp and ceremony), our central beliefs are more or less identical.
A heretic is someone who is a member of an established religion and changes a central tenet of that religion and starts spreading it as gospel; for example, someone who was a life-long muslim and started preaching that Muhammed was actually a woman and all the genders in the Koran were swapped would be a heretic. The lesbian bishop (no, really) in Sweden (where else?) that wants to ban crosses and bring muslims into the church to preach their own religion is a heretic. The Jewish (no, really) Anglican priest who says he hates Jesus and doesn't believe He died for our sins is an uber-heretic, because the whole "Jesus died for our sins" part IS THE ENTIRE BASIS OF CHRISTIANITY. If you don't believe that, then you're not a Christian at all. But do you really expect a Jew to NOT be a subversive little shit?
The Mormons are heretics. My first wife came to terms with that shortly after we married, but kept going to church to be with her family. Who promptly disowned her when they found out I was never a Mormon, but never knew that she had abandoned her own beliefs for true Christianity. They thought she was still a Mormon when they cut all ties to their own flesh and blood.
>>7057
4 parents + 6 kids = above replacement level reproduction. Basic math, dude. Is six more than four?
>>7057
Maybe in the 1700's, when a couple would have nine kids and only three made it to adulthood because of plague. This is the 21st century in a first world country; the overwhelming majority of children who aren't aborted by their nigger/liberal mothers make it to adulthood.
Plus, in this community, unless you opt out, you're pretty much guaranteed to get married and have kids. Notice how I married one 18 year old and I'll be marrying another in a month or so? And these are rural girls raised in a tight-knit religious community; they're not being exposed to degeneracy and Chad Thunderdick at age 11 like secular city girls going to public school.
>>7090
No, but I've seen the South Park episode. Both wives think South Park is degeneracy and refuse to watch it; for the most part, I agree. The show may have some on-point social commentary now and then, but it's still degenerate.
But the ninja episode was pure awesome, I have to admit.
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No.7112
>>7111
>4 parents + 6 kids = above replacement level reproduction. Basic math, dude. Is six more than four?
That's two kids per woman and so sub-replacement level (in fact 2 kids per woman can never be above replacement level even in an ideal world). You have to consider men 'left out' by this arrangement. It might be above replacement for the community in which you live but not for white humanity as a whole. Have three kids per wife and all is well.
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No.7113
>>7037
Clean your act up. Be well-groomed at all times; have a neat, professional haircut, keep your facial hair well-groomed (no ZZ Top beards, no hipster beards, and if you can't grow decent facial hair, just shave daily), shower daily and use good soap and aftershave (not the cheap shit that makes you smell like Chad Thunderdick or a hooker, something that makes you smell like a businessman or lawyer. Classics are always good and will be appreciated by older men in the community; my barber uses Clubman on all his customers, for example. I wear Mandom. Trump sells cologne, buy his.), and make sure you always present yourself as clean and professional looking.
Next, dress like an adult. Jeans and a t-shirt are fine for yard work or hanging out on the weekend, but you otherwise need to look professional. Khakis (I wear 5.11's because of my job, most people can't tell the difference beyond mine having more pockets) and a button-up shirt. NOT a polo shirt. Wear good shoes; I wear combat boots, again, because of my job, but any leather work boot will do. Sneakers and other shoes that say "I'm still an immature kid who plays all day and doesn't know how to look or behave professional" are out.
On Sunday or formal occasions, wear a suit and tie, and nice dress shoes. GET THE SUIT FITTED. Don't buy some cheap suit at Wal-Mart that's "in your size", get a real suit and have it tailored specifically to you. A tailored suit looks snappy; a generic one-size-fits-most suit looks like crap. You want to look good for the ladies and their dads, right? Get a proper tie tack and cuff links. Yes, you're going to spend several hundred dollars; you should LOOK like you spent several hundred dollars. Get a good wristwatch too, preferably one that goes with the tie tack and cuff links. Don't get some trendy shit like those oversized watches blacks and whiggers wear, get a real watch. A leather band is fine as long as it matches your belt and shoes, but a metal band is better.
No tattoos. No piercings. Get rid of that shit. If you already have a tattoo, keep it covered.
Eat right, work out. You don't need to be buff, but you do need to be healthy and look healthy. You'll be surprised how your skin is suddenly clearer once you start exercising and eating properly, and you'll FEEL better too.
Continued
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No.7114
>>7113
Continued
Be a respectable person. Say sir and ma'am, be super polite at all times, hold the door for a lady, etc. A guy who drives up and texts his date to come out to his car is an asshole; a guy who knocks on the door, gives his date some flowers or a similar gift of affection, and then walks her to his car and opens the door for her gets himself a woman. Seek her input on what to do, but otherwise make all the decisions yourself. HAVE A PLAN BEFORE THE DATE EVER HAPPENS. Never, EVER get in the car and then ask her where she wants to go. If she hasn't already told you what she wants to do, then you already know where you're going and what you're doing. Never have to think of something while the date is in progress.
Go to church. For real. You want a nice, cheerful girl who is close to her family and attends church because she thinks it's important. If she's only there because her parents dragged her there, you don't want her.
You want her father to like you. If a girl dates you just to piss off daddy, you don't want her; she has issues that will later turn against you, and you will never be part of her family. Her family should see you as part of the family before you ever propose to her.
Be a pillar in the community. Do volunteer work. Wrap gifts for Elf Louise or the local equivalent at Christmas. Mow the lawn for the elderly lady in the neighborhood who can't work a mower anymore; and do it for free, don't let her pay you for helping out! If your prospective father-in-law has a big project, volunteer to help. You'll get to know each other better, you'll get valuable experience in how to do things on your own once you have a house (how much do you know about plumbing/remodeling/building a work shed/rebuilding an engine? Learn from him and help out, even if it's just holding the flashlight and talking while he does all the actual work.), and it raises people's opinions of you. The more helpful and respectful you are, the more word travels that you're Good People. DO NOT BRAG ABOUT THIS. If someone directly asks if you do something, admit to it, but be humble; act slightly embarrassed if you have to. Nobody likes a phony who does shit just to make himself look good; everybody likes the guy who helps a little old lady carry in her groceries.
Learn etiquette. Learn how to dance; I can't dance for crap and HATE dancing, but girls are obsessed with it for some reason and it earns you points.
You want a girl who is saving herself for marriage, and you should be willing to do the same. If she's going to wait for you, you wait for her. If she's willing to jump in the sack the first week you're officially a couple, you don't want her.
Work hard, be respectful, and make yourself respectable. If you have a reputation for being helpful, putting your full effort into everything you do, and your word being your bond (ie, if you promise to do something, you DO IT, no ifs, ands, or buts), then you'll be seen as a prize by other people who are respectable.
And that's it. That's really all it takes. And yes, a girl's parents will really let you date their much younger daughter if they think you're a good man who will be good for her. If you come off as a creep who is skeezing on younger girls… you probably are a creep.
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No.7115
>>7112
It's above replacement because it's still a larger population than you started with.
As for more kids per wife… as God wills it. 2 per wife is really a minimum/ideal. If we have more, then we have more.
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No.7116
>>7111
>Maybe in the 1700's, when a couple would have nine kids and only three made it to adulthood because of plague. This is the 21st century in a first world country; the overwhelming majority of children who aren't aborted by their nigger/liberal mothers make it to adulthood.
I did note >>7062 that the figure of 2.33 was worldwide and inflated by developing countries. Replacement level for most developed countries is a little over 2 kids per woman, above replacement level is higher. This is not a hard concept to understand. It's also not just making it to adulthood but finding someone to have kids with and having 2+ kids (people might opt out of kids, be infertile for whatever reason, have only 1 child etc etc).
>Plus, in this community, unless you opt out, you're pretty much guaranteed to get married and have kids. Notice how I married one 18 year old and I'll be marrying another in a month or so? And these are rural girls raised in a tight-knit religious community; they're not being exposed to degeneracy and Chad Thunderdick at age 11 like secular city girls going to public school.
That's respectable and all but it does not change the facts.
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No.7117
>>7115
>It's above replacement because it's still a larger population than you started with.
Again for your specific community maybe, not for humanity/your race (depending on flavour of political belief) as a whole. It really depends what your end goal is.
>2 per wife is really a minimum/ideal. If we have more, then we have more.
Fair enough, even if you only manage replacement level technically 2 kids is sub-replacement level but not by much in the developed world so whatever if those kids are brought up well it's a good outcome.
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No.7119
>>7114
Something I feel I should clarify, regarding dating/marrying younger girls:
I'm marrying young women for several reasons:
1) They're more likely to have healthier children; the older a woman gets, particularly past 30, the greater the chances of defects like autism.
2) It's pretty normal for young women to marry as soon as they're out of high school around here, so the majority of older women are already taken. If you're in the community and looking to marry, you're getting a girl in the 17-20 year old range and that's about it.
3) It's all about compatibility with the wives. Wife #1 is not quite 7 years younger than me; that's mostly coincidence. Wife #2 is close to her age, only 2 years younger, and they became friends before we proposed marriage to Wife #2. Soon-to-be Wife #3 is Wife #2's best friend and a year younger. Hard to make sure your wives can all relate to each other when they're in different age groups and different backgrounds. Marrying a 25 year old Japanese only child and an American 18 year old from a family of eight? Not gonna work. If they can't all talk about the same things and relate to each other's life experiences, then they won't get close and the marriage won't work.
So while young girls is a bonus, it should NOT be the reason you're going out wife-hunting, and you certainly shouldn't be looking to acquire a harem. Like I said, most people only think of a polygamous relationship as a sexual fantasy; the reality of marriage to multiple women and making the relationship work is FAR different than most people realize. I set out to begin a polygamous relationship because it felt right to me and fit with the religious and political upbringing I had, even though I've drifted from that and formed my own beliefs over time; I didn't do it just to get my rocks off, and anyone who does is guaranteeing disaster. You're not just hurting yourself, you're hurting your women too.
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No.7120
>>7111
The thing is, what qualifies as important enough deviation to qualify as heretical is entirely subjective, and can change over time. All it needs is to be some belief or opinion that runs contrary to some existing dogma or dominant beliefs.
And a lot of this opinion gets based on perspective. Today, Christians commonly view themselves as Christians first and members of their denominations second, but this was not always necessarily the case. In the western world, particularly in America, the idea of the unified Christian identity became very popular around the '60s, largely because it was used as a political rallying tactic for the anti-abortion movement. Since then, the country has become vastly more spiritually diverse, and as the spectrum of beliefs grows, so does the definition of one's in-group. People see the people of other denominations as more like them as the presence of people more unlike them increases.
Today, it's common to see presidential candidates make public church appearances at some point. It's part of the regimen of trying to manipulate people who don't understand their platform by appealing to a view of wholesomeness. Before around '60s, you don't really find them doing things like that. Associating yourself with religion was a risky move, because it might alienate other denominations. Even then, the fact that Kennedy was Catholic was actually a big deal at the time, something which is very unlikely to matter today.
Christians today rarely call one another heretics, because they don't consider the differences large enough to use such a divisive, inflammatory word. But clearly, for them to have to have formed their own denominations, they at one point did feel these difference strong enough, and so reasonably still could. Depends on the level of zealotry.
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No.7133
>>7119
Was it always your plan to marry additional girls in quick succession? Did you ever consider spacing them out more, so you'd always have an energetic young wife in the house?
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No.7141
>>7113
>>7114
This seems to me like a really burger focused advice but I live in a post communist european country. Regardless I'm really greatfull that you took the time to give such a long answer.
I be honest this seems to me pretty generic advice, but maybe i just assumed falsely that in order to have 3 (2) really young wives at age 28 requries something special.
>>7119
Well yeah I planned for a long time that i will eventually start a family with a girl in her mid to late teens.
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No.7155
>>7133
Didn't really plan that far ahead. Also, spacing them out so you always have an energetic, young wife in the house… is guaranteed to start shit with the older wife/wives, because they will always be jealous of the new girl whose tits aren't sagging.
Get them all in roughly the same age group and they'll socialize better.
>>7141
>Well yeah I planned for a long time that i will eventually start a family with a girl in her mid to late teens.
Better start now. Remember, to get a girl that young, her parents have to like you. Get working on it.
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No.7180
>>7155
>Better start now. Remember, to get a girl that young, her parents have to like you. Get working on it.
pic related
Btw wanna be friends (like online)?
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No.7182
>>7155
>Get them all in roughly the same age group and they'll socialize better.
This is a great, great point. Some accounts of polygyny with wives of different age brackets result in a happy older/younger sister vibe but many more result in acute friction that can't be smoothed down by common ground.
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No.7193
>>7182
>Some accounts of polygyny with wives of different age brackets result in a happy older/younger sister vibe
This sounds so comfy. Please tell me more.
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No.7267
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No.7608
Question: you mentioned that you were cast out by a mormon community earlier. Is the new community you are living in still Mormon or non-denominational?
I've pretty much only associated polygamy in the US with fundamentalist mormons, so the existence of other polygamous communities is fascinating to me.
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No.7850
I like hurting my wife, that's why I do it. I'm a sadist and she's a masochist.
She wasn't a cuck initially, and honestly we still don't use that word, but things gradually escalated to this point over a few years.
I spend a lot of time thinking of ways to torment her, which is what I enjoy most about it. That's not to say I don't enjoy fucking the other girls because I absolutely do, but if my wife wasn't into it there wouldn't be any point.
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No.8398
So after a very long search, I'm finally going to cuck my wife. I've got a date for Monday, and my wife actually high-fived me when I told her.
Don't know why I'm saying this. Maybe I'm just blogposting. Call me a faggot or whatever.
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No.8400
>>8398
congrats to you and your wife
you should get your cuckie to come here and talk with other anons while you send her pics of the vixen throughout the night unless you plan on cucking her in your own house
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No.8401
>>8398
>an adult initiating a high-five
This is why she's getting cucked.
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No.8412
>>8401
Didn't Monica from friends love to high-five?
But come to think of it, she's definitely the most cuck-able of the three. Rachel doesn't really enter the conversation and Phoebe is a homewrecker.
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No.8418
>>8398
Are you going to make her watch?
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No.8446
As someone who love to write stories this thread is a gold mine.
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No.8577
My fiancee have only had very detailed roleplay with the dynamic, thanks to a woman we found on half-chan and who was willing to talk to us about this and MFF stuff. Regardless, the first post really nailed it on the head. Even when we fantasize about it in bed, it turns my fiancee crazy fast and it makes her talk dirtier. It's definitely the submission aspect that I like the most, currently. She doesn't know there's a term for her liking this stuff, yet but how willing and encouraging she is of it drives me wild just thinking about it.
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No.8763
>>5094
i think about this shit a lot lol
not just about cucking though
different iterations of subcultures based on our natural tendencies yay
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No.8771
Simple, the feeling of having one's male sexuality validated. Of being dominate for once after having lived one's life always trying to please women especially my mom or other males who don't really accept me or give me anything in return. The delicious feeling of having sex come your way without having to work for it. I think if you've ever been belittled by women, it's a great adrenaline rush to 'get revenge.' Also yuri is hot and cute.
But I'm a virgin for reasons so this is theoretical
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No.8776
>>8771
>if you've ever been belittled by women
Surely everyone has been belittled by both men and women at some point.
>get revenge
I think I see what you mean but any girl with cuckquean or submissive tendencies generally wants her man to be dominant and successful. Do you mean get revenge in a "fuck you world" way or on women or what?
>give me anything in return
What do you mean by this? What are you expecting?
You seem a bit mixed up but also have some self awareness. I have to ask though, do you even lift?
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No.8779
>>8771
I can't tell if your oversharing your mommy issues or just l looking for a way to justify your fetish.
If it's the former, maybe get real help. I mean that sincerely, not pejoratively. You don't have to go it alone. There's no shame in it. Self-medicating with a fetish only drags another person into your problems.
If it's the latter, knock that shit off. I see far too many people adopt weird philosophies because they can't reconcile their fetish with who they are outside of it. You don't need to. There's no shame in enjoying a power dynamic, and you don't need a reason to frame it as a response to something.
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No.8785
>>8776
>>8779
Again, I don't care. I go on anon image boards so I can say whatever the fuck I want with few repercussions. Also real help does not exist. If you are talking about paying someone to listen to me and tell me what I already know and again, belittle me like you are doing, fuck that.
OP asked what appeals about having a girlfriend who likes to get you to fuck other girls. It's Darwinian. It's a power trip. It's excitement. Also, it's revenge against people like >>8779 (you)
It's about winning, like Trump says.
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No.8787
>>8785
I am >>8776 and I was asking genuine questions. They were not rhetorical. You should not read an aggressive or accusatory tone into them because I didn't intend that. I am not belittling you.
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No.8789
>>8785
So, both then. Christ man, you've got some issues.
I guess it makes sense to want 'revenge' when every human interaction is perceived as a slight. Someone tries to draw on their own experience to suggest help to a total stranger? Clearly they're 'belittling' you, and you must get 'revenge'. Thinking anything I said was belittling really tells us what you think about yourself more than anything.
I'm not harmed by your pissy attitude. You're the only one that is. You aren't hurting women at-large with your 'revenge', only sabatoging your own relationships and assuring you'll never experience any real imtimacy. It's possible to die alone even with a whole harem of women.
One's level of pain is their own making. The only reason there's no real help for you is because you don't want to be helped.
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No.8790
>>8787
I don't know about you, but mommy issues sounds belittling. I also have daddy issues, and brother issues. So many issues. Many people have issues with their parents anon.
I don't feel a need to 'justify myself' to anons. Also what is wrong with liking girl x girl action? Are you a homophobe? lol
Wanting to be popular with girls is not really a fetish to begin with. It's a pretty standard male desire. Therefore a cuckquean loves her partner enough to help fulfill this desire, and/or she is bisexual, and/or she likes being submissive.
'weird' is relative to your environment. What is weird to you is normal somewhere else.
>There's no shame in enjoying a power dynamic, and you don't need a reason to frame it as a response to something.
I agree, but there are reasons for everything, I'm just saying what I want to say.
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No.8792
>>8790
You're responding to me but referring to the other anon's post. Personally my motivation is curiosity and because I wanted clarification.
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No.8793
>>8789
>oh god another self righteous moralfag bitch
The desire for revenge for me is a desire for success.
…So I don't have to have as you say, a total stranger who knows nothing about my life, think she's helping me by saying I can just 'get real help' whatever the fuck that means.
Yes I'm pissed off, because I wouldn't give be angered by what you say if I had what I wanted.
>>8792
Oh sorry about that but there is no ID.
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No.8795
>>8793
No problem. However I did link to my post.
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No.8796
>>8790
>I don't know about you, but mommy issues sounds belittling.
It could be, depending on the context. But when someone straight up says that they want to get revenge on women for how their mother treated them, what do you want me to call it? I could rephrase it as "unresolved issues related to your mother", but you'll have to excuse me if I assume that 8chan users have a thick enough skin that they don't get triggered like some tumblr snowflake over phrasing.
>Also what is wrong with liking girl x girl action? Are you a homophobe?
Not sure where you're getting the idea that I have a problem with girl on girl action.
>>8793
I fail to see how pointing out that you're clearly paranoid and self-destructive is moralfagging.
>who knows nothing about my life
That's simply not true.
I know you have issues with your mother stemming from your inability earn her acceptance, and that you extend this to all women.
I know you feel you've been forced into a position of submission for most of your life, as noted by your statement of being 'dominant for once'.
I know you don't feel accepted by other men and feel that your efforts in male friendships were not reciprocated, or that you're somehow owed something.
I know that you feel your sexuality and masculinity are somehow forcibly repressed.
I know you interpret your feelings and desires as a natural response that anyone else would feel, given that they experienced the same issues with women.
I know you've attached this contempt to all women and somehow feel justified in what you perceive as an attack on them, whether or not the specific woman in question has ever wronged you in any way.
I know that you have a need to speak your mind and don't feel that you are able to in your regular life.
I know that you're concerned with whether or not other people think you care about what they think.
I know you're suspicious of the clinical mental health field and believe a counselor would just parrot back your words and condescend.
I know you like the idea of being in control over other people, both men and women, and that it is somehow an attack on them.
I know you have other issues with other family members as well, and that you consider this to be commonplace and not noteworthy.
I know that you felt the need to tell us why you liked cuckqueaning, but paradoxically felt the need to tell us that you don't feel the need to justify your interest.
I know you are suspicious that anyone who doesn't know you would be willingly helpful.
I know you feel that your situation is unique enough that someone on the internet couldn't possibly relate, and you possibly feel threatened by the attempt.
I know you assumed me to be a woman.
I know you do not have a firm control of your emotions and are easily brought to anger words on the internet.
And finally, I know that you made the most cringe-worthy, teenage-edgelord statement I've seen in some time:
>The desire for revenge for me is a desire for success.
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No.8802
>>8796
I've seen people get BTFO before but this is ridiculous. Anon did you have to go that far?
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No.8819
>>6916
I was in the sandbox, so…
19 confirmed kills, actually.
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No.8832
>>8819
…and Americans wonder why countries they "liberate" don't automatically love them back.
Were the people you killed even armed? Or did you kill them because they were holding a long object that you identified as a weapon but turned out to be a shovel? Or did you kill them with the intent to "remove kebab"?
Serving in a warzone requires courage and is something I can respect. Bragging about the actual act of killing on the other hand is despicable. You might as well brag about looting or raping.
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No.8834
>>8790
I'm staying out of this discussion, but what an adorable drawing. Did anyone else immediately start to have cucking fantasies about them?
A lot of the bulls/stallions/other impressive animals around here seem to want to flip some of the traditional relationship on its head, and put their girl(s) to work in a maid café for them, and also find girls for them. But wouldn't it be fun to have a spoiled quean? Not truly spoiled, she just loves to be pampered, and will love you forever if you do. Like a luxurious house cat. Of course, such a girl is not going to cut it when it comes to the bedroom. So you bring in another girl, one who will do everything you could imagine, because she so desperately wants to hear those words "good girl" after you leave her a dripping, heaving, sweaty mess. Preferably on your marital bed. With your spoiled quean sitting on the couch, pretending to be more interested in that expensive phone you got her than what is going on between the two of you. Even though the mixture of distress and arousal on her face says otherwise.
Or the subservient girl is the wifey and she introduces you to to her old friend. Just a total brat princess who lets herself be waited on by your girl. Of course, she comes home from work to find you balls deep inside of her.
>w-well if that's what hubby needs…
She pretends not to notice, but keeps inviting her friend over and disappearing, so the two of you can experience the thrill of cheating.
I hate cheating, but it is kinky to think about
I hope to have given you some insight into my perspective with my dirty fantasies
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No.8842
>>8834
>a luxurious house cat
ohoho this is your lucky day anon
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No.8843
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No.8845
>>8843
Yes. It was very well thought out and interesting though. Hopefully that other anon will say OK fair play, they made some good points and take it on the chin. It definitely made me think.
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No.8849
>>8832
>serving in a warzone is respectable, but actually doing your job there is bad
Ok buddy. I'm sure lots of respectable wars are won without anyone dying.
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No.8852
>>8832
>…and Americans wonder why countries they "liberate" don't automatically love them back.
arab countries don't immediately go great over night, they've been under strict islamic rule for centuries and been taught for countless generations to never trust anyone's who's not a muslim, it takes actual time to obliterate the shitty """culture""" they have there, or better yet don't go there in the first place which is something the current President was against from the start
>Were the people you killed even armed? Or did you kill them because they were holding a long object that you identified as a weapon but turned out to be a shovel? Or did you kill them with the intent to "remove kebab"?
I don't think you really understand how war works, and this is not an attack on you, these last two generations have been brought up to believe that during war our soldiers or well, Western since I'm not American attack first and ask questions later, which couldn't be farther from the truth. They're given orders to follow, and usually the people giving those orders don't have time to waste shooting non-threats such as men with shovels.
>Serving in a warzone requires courage and is something I can respect. Bragging about the actual act of killing on the other hand is despicable. You might as well brag about looting or raping.
Speaking of raping, care to guess what a lot of the men on the other side tend to do to little boys during wartime when they're having sexual emergencies because they're away from their 7 wives? Yeah, I'd brag about shooting one of those fuckers in the middle of his forehead too if I were him.
Death is a consequence of war, anon, it's been like this since the dawn of mankind and it'll keep being like so until Skynet eradicates us all, but until then it's almost impossible for there to be a war where there are no casualties.
polite sage for off-topic
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No.8855
>>6912
>First of all, I'm only human, and not a sexual juggernaut; usually I only have sex once a day
That sounds like low libido to me, most men desire sex to be at least once a day.
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No.8856
>>8796
>I know you have issues with your mother stemming from your inability earn her acceptance, and that you extend this to all women.
Having to earn acceptance from a parent can be a source of bitterness in it of itself, it instills in the person who had to consciously do it the fear that what they've earned can easily be lost.
There was a book written by a pro-feminist man criticizing feminism on things they'd have to cede as genuine male concerns one of which is football player syndrome. Football player syndrome was his phrase to describe the fact that men come to the realization that their women, their cheerleaders, love them for their success but they're ultimately replaceable with any other player and as soon as they sit on the bench they become invisible.
Someone who's had trouble getting affection from their parent or the opposite sex will be more keenly aware of this dilemma, they want transcendental unconditional love but they're painfully aware that it is only when they proved themselves that they were able to gain any love or affection. Love is thus an unreliable, perishable, a commodity and faith in relationships is weakened and if the person is particularly bitter they shut themselves off from making real connections with people or try to reproduce the mental anguish they feel by toying with the feelings of others.
No particular person has to have wronged them, they're yearning for God, yearning for some source of unconditional, reliable, steadfast love and in their bitter belief that it doesn't exist they get vengeance on those who believe in it (but most likely wouldn't/can't provide it).
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No.8870
>>8849
Killing to achieve an objective is personally reasonable. Some things are important enough to kill for. Bragging about killing however, is in incredibly poor taste.
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No.8875
>>8870
it depends on your tastes doesn't it? I remember from the bible the women start cheering on a young David as he returns from war.
1 Samuel 18:7
>The women sang as they played, and said, "Saul has slain his thousands, And David his ten thousands."
Being perturbed by it is more of a modern sensibility, I can't imagine the romans who practiced family planning by throwing infants into the garbage would have any qualms about bragging about war time killings. It springs forth from you valuing life highly and thus holding that killing can only be a dark necessity and nothing to be proud of, in the right conditions you can be free of shame but never boasting.
Ironically this reminds me of another bible verse about God despising people who laugh when the wicked are punished.
Proverbs 24 17-18
>Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,
>or the LORD will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them.
Maybe the modern sensibility was inspired by Christianity? Christianity was the bedrock of western civ.
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No.9275
>>5107
>butterstutter
the reverse trap that cucked a gorillian flutterfags.
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No.9276
>>8875
its fully that people make that analogy because bedrock tends to be shit and keeps you from digging for water.
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