No.15398 [Last50 Posts]
MALE ANONS, POST YOUR QUESTIONS HERE!
Ever wanted to know if your gf's a closet cuck and need someone's opinion? Curious as to how women can enjoy seeing their significant other with another girl? You want to "turn" your gf into a cuck? Are you new to the fetish and wish to learn more in a polite and calm manner? Got questions you wish to be answered? Post ITT and our lovely little board'll try to answer you to the best of our abilities, this is the thread for you!
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No.15408
>>15398
Why do I keep coming here wngf?
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No.15409
>>15408
To remind yourself of your goal
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No.15423
How does a guy go about breaking the topic to a potential vixen? In my experience, dropping the "I have a wife" bomb scares the girls off.
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No.15424
>>15423
Girls love the idea of being irresistible to men. It's why rape fantasies are so common for example, because girls like the idea of being so attractive that a guy can't resist them. It's the same reason girls like the idea of a man cheating on his wife or girlfriend to be with them. That he knows what he's doing is wrong but can't help it because she's so sexy. So knowing he has a girlfriend who's okay with it can be a turnoff because it takes away from that. And also "I can have sex with other girls but she can't have sex with other guys" will ring alarm bells for some girls who will take it as a sexist thing. Honestly being upfront about your gf being cool with it will probably reduce your opportunities. You could try just acting like you're cheating or don't even mention the gf and if things go well then break it to her.
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No.15427
>>15423
Honestly, I think if neither you nor your wife have any immediate interest in involving the vixen into your relationship other than having her be a one night stand, I'd say go with lying and pretend you're going behind her back. She can hide in the closet while you do your thing.
Afterwards if you both enjoyed your time with the girl and wish to repeat, you can plan on ways to break it to her. Like saying wifey came home once while you two were in the middle of the act and watched it all from the doorway and is into it. Hopefully by this point the vixen would be more open to the idea of a one-way open relationship.
Best of luck.
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No.15428
>>15424
> "I can have sex with other girls but she can't have sex with other guys" will ring alarm bells for some girls who will take it as a sexist thing
Good. That would be raising the potential rape charges red flags right away.
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No.15439
gf is fine with not sleeping with other men, and fine with me sleeping with other women. But both together, make her uneasy. She doesn't like the idea of agreeing to an "unequal" relationship, and says she'd probably try to find other men if i found other women. On the plus side, she's bi, and said mff threesomes are an acceptable compromise.
Am i doomed to this purgatory? Any advice?
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No.15440
>>15439
>says she'd probably try to find other men if i found other women
That’s an open relationship, not cuckqueaning. I can’t offer you advice except that I don’t think you should.
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No.15442
What qualities do Queans find attractive in their guys and also how did you all realize you were into this fetish. (I'm sure both have been asked before but still feel like asking it may result in some fresh stories.) Oh also what are your long term goals relationship wise? I've got a kinda general idea of what some of the people on the board would want but I'm still interested in what overall commonalities and differences there could be.
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No.15444
>>15439
>gf is fine with not sleeping with other men
She's "fine"? So her normal stance if she had the chance to, would be to sleep with other men despite being in a relationship with you?
>says she'd probably try to find other men if i found other women
Like the other anon said, that's an open relationship, not cuckqueaning. I'm getting a bit worried that she might've thought about this extensively beforehand… that's never a good sign.
>On the plus side, she's bi, and said mff threesomes are an acceptable compromise.
I dunno anon, sounds like she's trying to bullshit you into letting her go around with other guys, she rubs your back with the mff threesome and then you'll feel obligated (or she tells you that you should feel obligated) to let her have sex with other guys, much like she allowed you to have sex with the first girl. This all sounds sorta fishy to me and I don't think if the roles were reversed she'd be too worried with it being an "unequal" relationship. Overall I think cuckqueaning might truly not be for her if she deems it unfair that you'd sleep around and she wouldn't, she must lack the compersion trait, otherwise your pleasure would give her pleasure.
I'm gonna go on a limb and guess you're not interested in being cucked as well, so think you should put your foot down and let her know right away that you're not into it whatsoever. Assert yourself.
Might I ask how close you both are? How long have you been together?
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No.15447
>>15439
Beat the egalitarian bullshit out of her.
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No.15449
>>15439
Pretty sure you're being baited into a trap there. Sounds like she's not so much into cuckqueaning so much as she wants an open relationship.
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No.15468
>>15442
>What qualities do Queans find attractive in their guys
Dominance, self-assuredness, and decisiveness. You should keep in mind that "self-assuredness" does not mean false bravado, which is a huge turn-off.
>how did you all realize you were into this fetish
When my first bf cheated on me… I did break up with him though.
>Oh also what are your long term goals relationship wise?
So I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not typical cuckquean - for me, the cuckquean fetish is more of an aspect of my other fetishes involving D/s (BDSM as well but to a lesser extent).
My goal is to be subservient to a benevolent master. Ideally, he would act in the best interests of the household and I would be obliged to serve and obey him. While he would be expected to act in my interest (and I would only enter this for good with someone I trusted), ultimately he has the first and last say. (think of it as being almost Confucian)
I am considered the lower status partner, and I am expected to value his desires over my own, while he is expected to act in the interest of my needs but not necessarily my desires. To this end, he's allowed to sleep with whomever he wants, while I do not have that luxury.
It maybe be a bit medieval, but it's sort of my fetish.
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No.15469
>>15468
Do you personally know of any other women who are similarly inclined?
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No.15471
>>15468
Huh that's an interesting viewpoint, somewhat in line with what I was expecting but the bit about him being expected to act in the interest of your needs and not your desires was something I hadn't really seen before or guessed at. (Though I'm sure a number of the other queans on here may have a differing view on that to varying degrees.) Interesting stuff all the same, thanks for the reply.
Also there ain't nothing wrong with going a little medieval sometimes.
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No.15473
Is this the thread where you guys stop pretending to be women?
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No.15475
>>15468
>I'm not typical cuckquean
In my research I found many different types, so much so that I'm not sure there even is a typical cuckquean.
>>15471
>ain't nothing wrong with going a little medieval
DEUS VULT
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No.15477
>>15449
This. Dump her whore ass.
>>15473
No, this guy >>15468 stays on the role.
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No.15485
>>15473
Spoken like a true beta male. Become an alpha male and you'll find plenty of cuckqueans will come to you.
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No.15497
>>15444
5 years roundabout, and both each others first and only sexual partner. so quite close, and neither of us are promiscuous, so this is a strange situation. I introduced the topic other women, And she responded by talking about other men. When i said i was not into it she was uncomfortable, but did not put her foot down or anything.
We broke up once due to other issues, but ended up getting back together since both of us are horny anti-soical weirdos in close proximity who don't trust many other people.
Her ideal situation would be a polyamorus situation, where all sexual partners are close and trustworthy. I don't see our desires as incompatible, so long as all our other partners are female. i legitimately believe this is a misplaced sense of egalitarianism with regards to gender.
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No.15498
>>15497
I have an idea what might be helpful. While theorizing about threesome optimization, I developed fix for the reciprocity trickery that some people try to do, which is to ensure that everyone in the threesome is attracted to everyone else.
For example, a straight guy with a bi girl could only have MFF threesomes, while if both were bi, then they could have whatever threesomes they want.
It could also be applied to cuckqueaning, since there is an undercurrent of bisexuality or at least bicuriosity in a lot of it.
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No.15503
>>15498
That's actually very fair and a good idea. It's so obvious too.
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No.15505
How do you be happy and content?
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No.15523
>>15505
First you have to liberate yourself by realizing life is an accident of the universe, humanity is not special from any non-human perspective, you can't control others' choices, death is inevitable, and there's probably nothing after death. Once you realize nothing matters, you're free to pursue your own values. In other words, you can care about what you really want from life instead of worrying about what other people tell you you should want, because there's no longer a reason to let them override your judgement. And if you remember your limitations, you can avoid getting bogged down in impossible expectations and just take practical steps to make the best of things. Being able to post here generally means you have more purchasing power and free time than most people did for most of history, and that's something worth appreciating. If nothing else, you can find some simple pleasures and enjoy the company of the company of like minded people.
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No.15530
>>15505
Don't listen to this nihilist >>15523
Happiness and contentment comes with having a happy family and securing a future for your posterity. The purpose of life is to ensure your genes survive and conquer.
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No.15536
>>15530
That's certainly a good route to happiness for most people, but if it's the only one how could infertile people be happy?
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No.15539
>>15485
Daily reminder that alpha male in the context of wolves just means "successful parent". The closest human equivalent would be the family man with a loving wife, four children, and his own successful business.
Wolf packs are basically just families, and the only actual reason why there's typically only one mating pair is because the rest of the pack are all the children of the mating pair, and wolves avoid incest when possible.
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No.15540
>>15539
I don't know that a successful business would be required for the comparison. As long as he can feed, clothe, and shelter his family, I'd count that.
Wolves avoid incest, but it's also that packs are not a permanent structure for all involved. After wolves reach maturity, they generally leave the pack to find a mate and start their own pack.
Natural occurring wolf packs actually resemble most human families a lot more than troops of chimpanzees do, which has led some to think we may have adapted a lot of our social behavior from our dogs, monogamy included. Most other primates have harem systems and very little cooperation between adult males unless they're closely related. This has come up on the board before, but humans are believed to have behaved this way prior to what we think of as civilization, as well (the last ~10k years), which is largely why we're frequently kind of shit at monogamy, even if it is beneficial to us as a species.
The whole idea of wolves vying for dominance in a pack comes from old observations of unrelated wolves thrown into captivity together. It would be a bit like studying prison populations as a basis for human behaviors.
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No.15541
>>15539
The term was coined from a group of wolves formed in captivity that had limited to no familial relations to one another. Anon below touches on it.
>>15540
No, it would be more like studying multiculturalism. Its like smashing different tribes, clans or nations of people together in a limited space and seeing how they decide to work together.
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No.15545
>>15485
Arguing with holes isn't going to convince me you're actually a girl, faggot
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No.15554
>>15541
>It would be a bit like studying prison populations as a basis for human behaviors.
>it would be more like studying multiculturalism. Its like smashing different tribes, clans or nations of people together in a limited space and seeing how they decide to work together.
Seems like the same thing.
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No.15556
>>15540
Well, other primates don't do cooperative hunting either. I guess human family structures have a lot to do with evolving into a similar niche to wolves.
Both do persistence hunting of larger animals, which selects for a very specific set of traits but is very rare outside of canids and humans. It requires cooperation & trust between pack members, cohesiveness over long distance travels, and intelligence.
Agriculture/land ownership sort of selects for harems again unless it's complemented with social norms, since concentration of wealth easily leads to hypergamy spirals. The invention of agriculture suddenly caused something like 80% of men to no longer reproduce for a couple centuries until society adapted to the new social structure and invented marriage as a way to maintain social order.
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No.15634
I wasn't sure where else to put this.
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No.15635
>>15634
How is that even possible? How long did the party last for? What was everyone else doing while this was going on? This is obviously made up but nevertheless I believe it.
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No.15640
>>15635
You could probably reverse image search it and find the source, I suspect it's clickbait. Maybe someone around here speaks Swedish and can help out?
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No.15644
>>15635
>>15640
https://imgur.com/gallery/wwYWGMo
Apparently it was just a prank, bro.
Though I do love how the text next to his picture in the upper left-hand corner says "Andreas Utterhall - experienced dad…"
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No.15648
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No.15653
>>15640
It was an april's fools in Västerbotten-kuriren in 2010. The original article is dead due to link rot, sadly, but a lot of other articles reference it.
The guy is from the cold hard northern parts of Sweden with few local inhabitants, so this was big small-town news when it happened and the aprils fool went particularly viral.
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No.15667
Sorry for this fucking wall of text and I know this might not belong here but here goes:
There are two girls I know.
One of them is quiet and seems to almost never speaks to anyone she doesn't already know (call her girl A). The other is her close friend and is much more outgoing (call her girl B). Girl B was quite quick to casually tell me she thought I was very handsome a few times and she was easy to talk to, so we became friends (I was taken at the time so mentally dismissed her compliments). Through girl B I met girl A.
After knowing each other a while and when I was single again, I was out with a group that included girls A and B together. Then I noticed how they acted together. Girl A mostly remained silent, but would look at me funny sometimes. Then every time I seemed to be around B, she would sort of push me towards A. When I sent B messages afterwards, she'd ask me to message A too, to include her.
I thought she was just trying to hook a shy friend up at first, but then things got kind of weird. She actually started to ramp up the flirting with me, rather than backing off. She'd start coming on quite strong, but then if I reciprocated, she'd basically tell me to ignore her and flirt with A instead. She started saying things like how 'A is so much prettier than I am, isn't she?' and 'when people like you two are together I should just go and stand in the corner, shouldn't I?'. When I asked her she said that 'jealousy has a certain effect on her.' Pretty much every message after that was her flirting with me but then wanting to hear about how much I wanted her friend instead. Then she told me that the supposedly quiet and timid friend was actually very invasive in our relationship, wanting to read all the texts we sent, going through her friend's phone, and then finally A apparently told B that she'd done enough and she was not to message me again.
I'm starting to strongly suspect this is some strange kind of borderline cuckquean tension between the two. My only question is: what do?
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No.15668
>>15498
I was thinking the same, however, there are some minor issues. Primarily, in terms of girls we actually have very different preferences in terms of looks and personality. however, this could be solved by increasing the size of the relationship i suppose.
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No.15672
>>15475
>Husbandry cuckquean
>Infertile or otherwise incapable of carrying children to term. Uses cuckqueaning as a means of acquiring a suitable broodmare for her husband/lover.
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No.15678
>>15667
Maybe my brain is fried but I read this a few times and I'm still not sure what is going on.
>>15672
Good addition.
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No.15693
>>15469
Not even one.
>>15471
I'm going to emphasize again that for me, cuckqueaning is an aspect of D/s fetish. Everything I say is going to be colored by that perception.
That said, I favor the notion that this arrangement is more appropriate overall, beyond just a fetish. There's a reason why for all of human history, women were subservient for men. This was not imposed upon women by men, but rather, was the norm because it was mutually beneficial and has only recently been questioned by feminism.
Women are naturally compelled to seek out a strong, dominant male as a protector because human sexual dimorphism renders us significantly smaller than males. Being subservient isn't a bad thing, as much as in recent times it's been portrayed as such, and the female drive is a natural response to the evolutionary pressures that we have faced. In modern times it's socially unacceptable to acknowledge that fact, and most people receive it as being anti-woman when it's really pro woman.
I don't really try and talk about this in real life though because it just comes off as me being brainwashed.
>>15475
I'm probably submissive>non-consensual>voyeuristic with a dash of compersive and humiliation.
I put non-consensual because the description of it technically fits me, specifically the part about me agreeing to hand over control over my sexuality and consent (though I imagine it as me handing over that control willingly).
>>15477
Believe what you want.
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No.15696
>>15693
In the leftist mind up is down so the fact that being aware of reality and in touch with your feelings makes you brainwashed in their eyes. Socially unacceptable is just another way of saying lugenpresse propaganda and doesn't have that much to do with what people actually think. It was "socially unacceptable" according to the media and millionaire virtue signalling celebs to be pro Brexit or Trump and look what happened.
In everyday life I continue to fail to meet people who are politically correct despite this idea that I or they will be ostracised or arrested by the secret police for speaking out of turn. The emperor has no clothes.
I'm not saying don't be polite and respectable but in the appropriate setting I think you'll find that many people will agree with the fundamentals of what you're saying. Traditional or natural masculinity and femininity is the route to happiness for the majority of people.
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No.15784
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No.15794
>>15696
>Traditional or natural masculinity and femininity is the route to happiness for the majority of people.
Also happiness is completely unreachable to the rest of the people.
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No.15822
how do i spot a cuckquean in an anime convention?
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No.15860
Jesus f** christ I don't know if a bunch of you are trolls or just bad at life but I'm seeing a lot of terrible, terrible advice and it's making me frustrated at a community that I love.
Happily married bi cuckquean here - my husband is literally picking his gf/vixen up from the airport now.
>>15423
>>15424
>>15423
Don't lie to people to get them to sleep with you. That makes you a scumbag. Also as a person who used to lie a bunch as a teen, unless you are awesome at it, that shit will catch up with you. Try kink and poly friendly communities to meet people who are open to alternative lifestyles. If saying something like "I am in an open relationship, how do you feel about that?" causes someone to run away *you don't want to start something with that girl anyway*.
Jesus.
>>15439
>>15440
>>15444
>>15449
>>15477
>>15498
>>15503
Okay. Okay. Jesus christ okay.
1. Yes, the fetish of cuckqueaning is one which naturally lends itself towards an uneven power dynamic within a relationship. If you are taking it seriously, living it as a 'lifestyle' per se. This is akin to living a 24/7 dominant/submissive lifestyle, and is NOT A THING TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY, potentially extraordinarily risky with regards to the mental health of the people involved, and something you shouldn't undertake lightly with a non-serious or non-long-term partner with whom you have had extensive discussion and a slow build-up of experimentation. Unless, that is, you don't actually give a fuck about whoever you're dating and your relationship.
My advice in general, is DON'T DO IT as a serious thing, unless both of you are committed, aware of the risks, have good communication strategies and are prepared for the impacts on your relationship.
She has said that she is not interested in cuckqueaning as a lifestyle. It's not for everyone.
She has said that she's open to a situation where you do MFF, or you are both essentially in an open or poly relationship. You should consider whether either of those circumstances suit you, and then explore them, or if finding a relationship with a 24/7 cuckquean is a dealbreaker for you, then try again with someone else.
Sorry that's not what you're gunning for, but wow relationships are a compromise. Who knew.
Also fucking fuck. Yes, it's unequal if you are able to screw 100% of your preferred gender and she's only allowed to screw 50% of hers. If you were bi and were with a bi woman who was exclusively into men and blonde women shorter than 5"5 and said that to be "fair" you should only go for people in the intersection of your two sets, that wouldn't be fair either - different people have different preferences and a person who is bi might prefer 10% men and 90% women or vice versa.
Giving one person complete freedom within their preferred set and the other person limited freedom is not fair. Which is fine if the other person wants to, or is happy to be limited and restricted in such a way, but doesn't mean that they are a 'whore' or creating a 'trap' if they don't want that kind of a relationship and have expressed it to you honestly.
>>15442
>What qualities do Queans find attractive in their guys
1. All the regular qualities people find attractive in other people.
2. Having the maturity to understand that a fetish is unlikely to translate well into a design pattern for a relationship. Intelligence.
3. Mutual respect and very good communication skills. Not being able to trust your partner to be honest, keep their word, and be considerate of your needs and emotions is a pretty big turn off for anyone who has a decent amount of experience in alternative-style relationships.
>how did you all realize you were into this fetish
Open relationship with ex where he wasn't comfortable with me sleeping with other dudes, so I didn't. Didn't stay in that relationship though.
>Oh also what are your long term goals relationship wise?
Happiness and stability, and enough trust and communication that we support each other even if it's scary and uncomfortable at times. To work together to meet each other's needs and goals in life.
..as for cuckqueaning I hope he finds more sexy vixens to tease me with soon ;p.
>>15667
Talk to them like and adult jeez, literally ask them what is going on and if they are too immature to sort their shit out and also talk to you like an adult drop them like a hot potato.
>>15822
By sight? Maybe look for the one with "cuckquean" written on her forehead /s.
Otherwise try asking one by one, Jesus.
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No.15861
>>15860
Who told reddit about this board?
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No.15862
>>15861
Their sanctimonious, breathless tone and lack of imageboard fluency doesn’t make them wrong. This thread is containment for the passing dudes who aren’t smart enough to lurk or read old threads where their questions have been answered over and over again, so naturally Gresham’s law will apply to the questions asked and advice given.
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No.15868
>>15862
I just looked up Gresham's law because of your post. So that's neat.
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No.15871
>>15860
>you are trolls or just bad at life
AND
pic related too
You replied quite broadly there and it's usually better to be more specific. Also remember to check any repeating digits.
>Happily married bi cuckquean
Post about this is another relevant thread. Sounds interesting and I'd like to hear some stories.
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No.15883
>>15860
Take your holier-than-thou moralfagging back to wherever you came from
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No.15923
>>15860
In your post, you claim you're a cuckquean, but also claim that it's unfair for only one partner to be fucking others.
I hate to break it to you, but you're not a cuckquean. You're just in an open relationship. It's not the same thing. If you're sleeping with other partners equally, you are simply not a cuckquean.
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No.15925
>>15923
But did she say that applies to her?
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No.15931
Anyone else here just for the hot stories and haven’t ever gotten a gf before, let alone one with cuckquean fantasies?
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No.15936
25 M here, recently moved from Europe to the US because of reasons. Recently started seeing a Jewish girl (non-Jewish myself, in case that's unclear).
Both she and her entire circle of friends seem to be oddly into me ("Hey anon, come over here and sit next to me" *presses against me*) x6.
How do I deal with this. I've mostly been in male-dominated environments before and am somewhat inexperienced tbh, so this is sort of my first time being in this situation.
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No.15937
>>15936
How is this question related to cuckqueaning?
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No.15939
>>15936
>How do I deal with this.
Did you try ZyklonB?
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No.15940
>>15937
I guess I went too deeply into the details. Actually, disregard that entire post.
Just assume I have a GF and she has friends that are into me. How do I bring up the posibility of a threesome or some more general cuckqueaning-like arrangement?
>>15939
That solution is too final and too flashy.
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No.16005
>>15931
>guy
>30
>married
>wife has heavy cuckquean fantasies
>complete autist who can't talk to a woman
I honestly have no idea how I even got married and even less clue how I'm going to cuck her.
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No.16007
>>16005
I don't recall posting this…. Do I have Alzheimer's?
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No.16008
>>16007
Are you saying that anon coincidentally describes your situation exactly?
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No.16009
>>15931
I'm a little embarrassed to admit it, but that's definitely me.
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No.16016
>>16009
Instead of getting one gf you now have to get at least two.
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No.16018
>>16005
>tfw gf is madly in love with me even after many years and I feel like I’m letting her down by not being able to pick up casual sex with harem-tier girls at the drop of a hat
At least it’s making me work at being /fit/ and it’s definitely making me more ambitious.
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No.16021
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No.16024
>>15398
My question is where has this sexy shit been all my life, holy shit this is my new favourite fetish
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No.16058
>>16018
>feel like I'm letting her down by not cucking her
Know that feel. Need to get /fit/ and learn how to pick up girls, for her sake if nothing else.
I may have exhausted every potential match on Tinder. How the fuck do normies do this?
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No.16059
I hear religious girls tend to be sexual freaks. How can I meet one that's also a cuckquean?
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No.16061
>>16059
Find one that's into polygamy? There's a strong basis for polygamy in the Bible, although Christians tend to read it selectively so as to avoid noticing things like that. There are Christian polygamists although they are pretty fringe so your odds of finding one aren't good. Then there are also Mormon fundamentalists who practice polygamy but your chances with them are even worse. First of all they discourage guys from 'joining' as every new male is obviously competition for the limited supply of ladies. And you would also have to be well-versed in their sometimes wacky theology.
Generally I would say your odds of finding a partner who is both religious and into cuckqueaning are pretty low, and even lower if you are not religious yourself and are just planning on faking it. But good luck!
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No.16062
>>16008
Why am I talking to myself? Do I have schizophrenia?
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No.16063
>>16058
>How the fuck do normies do this?
Neurotypicality I guess.
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No.16065
>>16061
I'm used to not getting nice things like this.
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No.16066
>>16058
Tinder is a shit platform. You’ll do a lot better with it if you know that most of the women on it have their reward circuits lit up by the matching process itself (hence its nickname of “chick crack” in places), and that everything after that is a come-down for them. Filter aggressively to weed out the basic bitches as quick as you can.
I got one very good vixen from there a long time ago, but otherwise nada. I’ve had much better results with women I meet in person because then I can assess whether they’re actually interested in me before I approach.
As for the rest of your question I have no fucking idea and I suspect that most normie men get fuck-all except for a few chads. We must be the new chads, Anon. A new breed of anon-ubermenches. It’s up to us.
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No.16067
>>16066
>the reward is in the anticipation, not the prize
So it's the dating version of lootboxes? Uninstalling immediately.
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No.16173
>>16066
>>16058
>>16018
>>16009
>>16008
>>16007
>>16005
So is there a trend for weird autists to attract cuckqueans?
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No.16174
>>16173
/cuckquean/ also filters for imageboard posters, so I wouldn’t conclude anything solid if I were you.
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No.16181
>>16066
On the subject of transforming myself into a pussy-slaying Aryan ubermensch, just WHERE do you go to meet women who might be up for a little o' the old in-n-out?
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No.16184
>>16059
Start your own religious sect and make this a core principle.
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No.16201
what would a cuckqueen think of cuckolds?
do any couples cuck eachother?
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No.16202
>>16201
Generally most of us are not fans of cuckolding. Some hate it, some take a more live and let live approach, but most of us at least don't want to hear about it or talk about it. A couple 'cucking' each other is really just swinging or an 'open relationship' which is again not what we talk about here and not what we're in to.
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No.16203
>>15468
I think that natural in women, but most women in the modern age try to rationalize that its bad to want to be submissive and feel guilty about fantasizing about it.
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No.16204
>>15523
>be a fedora tipper
>you are powerless
>you don't own nuffin'
Hahaha, no.
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No.16300
I came here a few months ago asking for advice on how to get girls. I've been working out ever since almost every day and it have payed off. This is how I looked a year ago, and this is now. It's not a lot, but I just wanted to say thanks.
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No.16361
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No.16362
>>16300 (🥚🥚)
Your torso looks a lot better but some of that could be down to the lighting. Good work.
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No.16369
Does anyone know of any good calisthenic workouts? I'd like to work out more, but I can't commit to a gym due to time/money constraints.
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No.16375
>>16362
Lighting does help.
>>16369
I can't help a lot since all I do is from when I used to practice karate. Just basic calisthenic in the whole body, then weights then actual Karate. Check /fit/ for specifics.
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No.16377
>>16300
>someone finally takes us up on dick or GTFO and then scribbles it out
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No.16379
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No.16384
On the topic of body maintenance, does /cuckquean/ have any feelings about male facial and body hair?
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No.16464
>>16375
Last ones for this year.
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No.16478
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No.16514
No questions. This board heals my soul.
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No.16582
So there's this girl on OKcupid who calls hereself a "huge cuck" on her self summary. On the other hand, she has brightly colored hair (and her pictures all have different hair colors).
I'm not sure whether to message for the hell of it, or whether I should stay the fuck away. Her question answers are very subby, but she's probably still the wrong kind of cuck.
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No.16752
>>16300
>I came here a few months ago asking for advice on how to get girls.
Were you the Auschwitz-thin guy? If so, I might've been one of the posters who urged you to eat more and work out
wew, your chest looks a lot better now, I still think you look relatively skinny so if possible you should start eating some juuust to gain a bit of mass instead of simply toning the muscles. A variation of GOMAD, perhaps? Instead of a gallon/4 liters of milk you'd do 1/4th or 1/2 of it.
>>16384
Depends on the person, there's a vast range of preferences, from really hair to smooth shaven. Just try stuff out and see what looks best with your body and/or what you prefer. Although a general consensus seems to be that back hair isn't appealing, at all. The rest depends on the girl.
>>16464
>>16478
That's nice and all and I'm sure you'll make a cuck real happy some day but I'm still going to have to report you for muh dicking :( Nice dick, tho~
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No.16757
>>16752
>That's nice and all and I'm sure you'll make a cuck real happy some day but I'm still going to have to report you for muh dicking
But dick or GTFO is a rule here. As far as I'm concerned he's the only dude who's ever posted here. If there were more they would've posted their dicks by now.
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No.16759
>>16757
Why does /cuckquean/ have to resort to RPing as males when the rest of the internet is full of horny faggots RPing as females?
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No.16761
>>16759
By spoilering our lewds, you sickfuck!
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No.16774
>>16752
>Were you the Auschwitz-thin guy?
Yes. I'm in a better living condition now so eating plenty should be easier I work at a restaurant, so I get to decide what to eat from the menu. I also have a park nearby with full equipment so it should be easier to work out better now. I've been doing bars for a week and the difference is astonishing.
>>16757
One of the reasons I censored the previous one is because I don't want to encourage other guys and turn the whole thing into a sausage fest, which is why I won't post till next year, if I can.
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No.16775
>>16582
What other kind of "huge cuck" is there for her to be? I doubt she'd be referencing to being into cuckolding, otherwise she'd have said something along the lines of wanting a cuck, instead.
>>16774
>that pic
I don't care if you don't spoiler any possible dick pics in the future so long as you always for the love of God spoiler that abortion next time. Holy hell how can men be so thin?
>I'm in a better living condition now so eating plenty should be easier
>I also have a park nearby with full equipment so it should be easier to work out better now.
Good and good, just focus on bettering yourself first and foremost. But in the pursuit to have a more desirable body don't neglect strengthening your mind as well, looks aren't all people will look for when it comes to assessing compatibility. And good luck.
>I don't want to encourage other guys and turn the whole thing into a sausage fest
<3
>which is why I won't post till next year, if I can.
You mean dick pics? I don't think we need any more of them. If you meant body shots to show us your development, there's bound to be a thread for that kind of content on /fit/, not to mention it would be more appropriate to post there.
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No.16778
>>16775
>What other kind of "huge cuck" is there for her to be?
Given the description of the hair, she could be leftfag trying to be funny. "Lol, tumblr tells me that anyone right of communist calls people cucks, so Imma call myself that to signal my political bullshit".
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No.16780
>>16774
Is that the guy who played the ghost in "Mama"?
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No.16781
>>16775
>looks aren't all people will look for when it comes to assessing compatibility
Way ahead. I'm doing plenty of things for that, although I don't think things too helpful in that regard coding, japanese and drawing.
>You mean dick pics?
I mean body progress. Cropped. Most likely to keep the thread on update about that. If it isn't necessary, then there's no problem. Anyway, thanks.
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No.16784
>>16778
>"Lol, tumblr tells me that anyone right of communist calls people cucks, so Imma call myself that to signal my political bullshit".
This, it's probably like how /pol/ calls each other "fashy goys".
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No.16853
would you date a guy that tells he likes to cuck his girlfriends or say that 1 woman isn't enought for him?
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No.16861
>>16853
I don't think anyone would be willing to jump into a relationship just from you hitting their fetishes. If you want to get a cuckquean gf your best bet might be for girls with bisexual tendencies or really submissive girls. Going on a date and telling them they'll never be good enough to satisfy you, for example, won't get you anywhere, you have to ease them into it and build a strong trust and respect foundation around both of you.
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No.16890
I think my gf has compersive feelings, she says stuff like "You are so perfect, why are you so good to me? I don't deserve you…why are you with me? Why don't you find another girl better than me?" or "How can I actually satisfy you? Tell me what you really want…", but I think it's mostly out of insecurity instead of a real wish to be a cuckquean (she's aware of the existence of cuckolds and cuckqueans, and she doesn't have a good opinion about them I'd say). On the other hand we had a FFM threesome some months ago, it was her idea, and she didn't have any problem with the other girl before, during, or after the threesome. In fact, she even asked her if she wanted to get fucked first, and in the end when we were done I had spent about twice as much time fucking her than fucking my gf. Also, I came two times, both of them deep inside of the girl. Again, she didn't even comment about that, no signs of jealousy at all.
Should we continue with the threesomes? Maybe I can get more insights into how she feels that way.
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No.16892
>>16890
>I think it's mostly out of insecurity
I think so too, those phrases seem to tell more about her self-esteem, or lack thereof, than any compersive feelings she might have. Doesn't mean she can't still have those feelings of wanting to see you with other girls however, those sentences just don't give off the vibe that she's into cuckqueaning.
But the FFM 3some being her idea… wanting the other girl to go first… not taking issues with you paying the other girl more attention… those do make it seem like she's into it by quite a margin. You didn't mention any interactions between your gf and the second girl so I'm assuming they didn't happen, in which case she isn't doing it to explore her bisexual or lesbian tendencies, if she has any to begin with.
Suggest another threesome with that one girl, perhaps, and see how it goes? Ask her during the days before the threesome how she feels about the whole thing and if she has any kinks she'd like you to explore? Taking it slow and easing her into it will hopefully allow her to open up about it more, don't go too fast with it. Also, for the love of God, make sure she isn't just doing this because she thinks you'll grow bored of her. If she's as insecure about losing you as you made her out to be, the last thing you want weighing on your conscience is her going out of her comfort zone and letting some other woman have sex with you, that can really damage her and potentially ruin the relationship down the road. If she's uncomfortable it might be best to call the threesome off and reassure her you love her which I seriously hope is the case.
Give us an update when/if something happens?
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No.16896
>>16892
>You didn't mention any interactions between your gf and the second girl so I'm assuming they didn't happen, in which case she isn't doing it to explore her bisexual or lesbian tendencies, if she has any to begin with.
Oh they did happen, they even started making out and undressing while I went to the kitchen to get something to drink. We were chatting after I had given both of them back massages and I mentioned that we needed some beer. When I returned back the lights were off and they were loudly kissing. Before doing the threesome she mentioned for a long time that she was curious about having sex with another girl and having a threesome, so she has bisexual tendencies for sure. She also commented that she really, really enjoyed sharing my cock with her while they were blowing me at the same time.
>Suggest another threesome with that one girl, perhaps, and see how it goes?
She was much fatter than we expected (what a surprise), like her arms where as thick as my gf's thighs. We knew she was "curvy", since that's what her profile said (we found her on sex-themed forum), and we shared some snapchat pics and videos before we actually met, but she obviously tried to downplay her size in those. So my gf told me that next time she'd like to have a skinny, ballerina-like girl, since she used to to do ballet as a kid/teen and even today she still likes watching porn with such kinds of girls. On an unrelated note, I'm still impressed that I managed to get rock hard to fuck her, maybe because we turned off the lights at her request, but whatever, I managed to make her cum just with my dick even though she needed crazy amounts of intense manual and oral stimulation to cum, I'm quite proud of that, but I'm afraid I won't be so lucky next time lol.
>Ask her during the days before the threesome how she feels about the whole thing and if she has any kinks she'd like you to explore?
Probably have both of them blowing me at the same time like I mentioned before? Maybe I should place emphasis on this and tell her that I really enjoyed it too and I want to repeat it.
>Taking it slow and easing her into it will hopefully allow her to open up about it more, don't go too fast with it.
You mean cuckqueaning? But how to ease it into her? I'm pretty sure she considers it to be some kind of weird fetish at best. Some sort of gradual process would need to happen if she were to become a cuckquean.
>Also, for the love of God, make sure she isn't just doing this because she thinks you'll grow bored of her. If she's as insecure about losing you as you made her out to be, the last thing you want weighing on your conscience is her going out of her comfort zone and letting some other woman have sex with you, that can really damage her and potentially ruin the relationship down the road.
This is the whole reason why I came here to ask. Even before the threesome I asked her hundreds of times why was she interested in it, because if it was not to satisfy her curiosity or enjoy herself and just a ploy to satisfy me at her expense while not really wanting it then I wouldn't do it. But in the end everything went just fine, she just wished we could have found a girl that was not morbidly obese. Maybe we could have even had more threesomes with the same girl if she would have been skinnier.
>If she's uncomfortable it might be best to call the threesome off and reassure her you love her which I seriously hope is the case.
Oh yes indeed, I'm always trying to show her how much I love her, she tells me that I'm the most affectionate person she's ever met and that she feels the luckiest girl in the whole world. Before we had the threesome I asked her many times if she was ok with everything and that she could just stop the whole thing if she felt uncomfortable.
>Give us an update when/if something happens?
Sure, I love this community, it has given me so many good faps and now I can contribute back to it.
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No.16914
Hold on for a bit so i can put this in context. Been married to a wonderful woman for close to 5 years now. Great sex, love each other completely, truest each other completely ect. Wonderful healthy relationship. She's bi, was very up front from the beginning. I was dating her and 2 other women, 100% of all parties knew about it. Had a few threeesomes, with them activly competing for my attention. Eventually went back to being monogamous and settled down and married her.
Since then we've been completely monogamous, though my wife has recently been mentioning that she interested in inviting a woman into our relationship. While she does enjoy being with a woman she's reluctant to share me completely again, concerned that I would start to find her unattractive ect and been unhappy with her.
This is due to her poor self esteem as her first husband left her for another woman. She's 8 years older than me and over the last couple years put on more weight than she's comfortable with. (Gone from average to curvy)
All in all I've been very supportive of her inviting another woman knowing full well that she's dominant to them but a sub to me and that she's very interested in making them do things with me on her terms.
Is this a more obscure way of cuckqueaning, and if so what would you recommend for me to help this along? Truth be told I'm happy with her and will spend the rest of my life with her, but I do miss the fun we had with my other gfs.
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No.16915
>>16914
>she's very interested in making them do things with me on her terms.
>Is this a more obscure way of cuckqueaning, and if so what would you recommend for me to help this along?
What you describe is a V-shaped relationship with your wife at the apex and you at one of the points. This is not cuckqueaning. If you were at the apex and your wife + the new arrival were at the points, it would be cuckquean-like. Note that even if you occasionally have sex with the other girl on your wife's terms, you remain at one of the points because it is she who controls your access to the other girl and the primary bond to that girl is with your wife.
You can follow this analysis to its conclusions yourself.
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No.16918
>>16914
>love each other completely, truest each other completely ect. Wonderful healthy relationship.
> While she does enjoy being with a woman she's reluctant to share me completely again, concerned that I would start to find her unattractive ect and been unhappy with her.
>This is due to her poor self esteem as her first husband left her for another woman.
>put on more weight than she's comfortable with.
You don't describe a wonderful healthy relationship. She found a catch and let her looks slip away. Instead of getting into shape she wants to fix things (that prob aren't broke) by bringing in another woman. It doesn't seem for her enjoyment, or yours, but rather to keep you from leaving. Dangling some meat so you know who feeds you.
This doesn't sound like cuckqueaning at all. A cuckquean gets enjoyment from her man conquesting new women, or finding an attractive young vixen he can be regular with. If she is a bit receptive to cuckqueaning and more so wanting to regulate your access to women then you need to make it on your terms. He duty would be to find vixens that are worthy enough for you. If she does a good enough job then maybe you'll let her engage in some bi-sexual behavior.
So don't be 'supportive' of her inviting. Either insist. no demand such, or walk away from the idea. personally, I think you have other things in your relationship that need addressing.
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No.16921
I finally understand this board.
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No.16923
>>16921
Is it okay if goobers get two wives though?
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No.16926
>>16923
I didn't understand why women of this fetish wanted to do this, even when it went against the loyalty of their options, but i see now that their options don't matter when they have access to attractive men.
I used to erroneously think this fetish was in favor of men (that it was somehow a special selfless love for men), but now i see that it's more for the woman who happens to sexualize an acceptance of a higher tier of man along with other non-monogamous women.
>Is it okay if goobers get two wives though?
My purpose with these posts isn't to preach morals, or to complain, it's more to display a tragic understanding of misunderstood motive, but i was correct about the end game.
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No.16928
>>16926
Why were you looking for existential balm in the existence of a fetish in the first place?
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No.16933
>>16061
>There's a strong basis for polygamy in the Bible
You mean adultery or fornication? Either way that is wrong, if a Christian is into polygamy hes going against his scripture.
>There are Christian polygamists
You're thinking of the cult of Joseph Smith, not authentic Christianity.
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No.16934
>>16933
Polygamy was common in the Old Testament, and never considered the same as adultery or fornication. It was regulated and even commanded by God in some instances (Levirate marriage, if your brother died before having children you had to take his wife as your own to give her kids even if you were already married). None of this was repealed in the New Testament.
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No.16935
>>16934
This here. Western society picked up monogamy from the Greeks and Romans, not any biblical source. Christian rules on marriage primarily come from religious authorities and traditions, not scriptures.
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No.16936
>>16934
>None of this was repealed in the New Testament.
>Matthew 5:2827 You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’e 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to depart into hell.
>It was regulated and even commanded by God
Yes, God sometimes has specific instructions to people in the bible like Noah's ark, however that doesn't contradict the rules he gave, nor does it mean for everyone, sometimes hes talking to specific people, context is very critical and easily missed.
>following the old testament
Christians follow the teachings of Christ, the Old Testament was delivered to and followed by the Jews.
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No.16937
>>16926
Some cuckqueans are selfless pure hearted angels who only want to share their man with those less fortunate than themselves such as flatties or asians.
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No.16938
>>16936
Not sure how that verse supports your point. Biblically, adultery is sex with a married woman. Jesus said lusting after a woman is adultery of the heart. He must have been referring to married women or else it would be fornication, not adultery. You can't commit adultery with an unmarried woman.
https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/women_sin.html
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No.16939
>>16935
>Western society picked up monogamy from the Greeks and Romans, not any biblical source.
Here is the tricky part of this. Marriage exist before the bible, but the bible also establishes the beginning of creation. A good example of this would be the Noah flood and how having a unique record of a previous well known even can give it credibility.
Greeks and Roman pagans wanted the bible to appeal to pagans, so they would change stuff like making the lunar calendar to a sun calendar and changing the Sabbath to sunday and saturn-day for the jews.
A better explanation of this is in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzo-cJgeKT4
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Rzo-cJgeKT4
>Christian rules on marriage primarily come from religious authorities and traditions, not scriptures.
It differs from denom, but generally it's a mixture of the Christian church and scripture. I don't understand why you're saying otherwise.
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No.16940
>>16938
>Not sure how that verse supports your point. Biblically, adultery is sex with a married woman.
Correct, except that Jesus
<You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’e 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
>You can't commit adultery with an unmarried woman.
You're actually right, regardless lust is seen as a sin. Lust is suppose to be for marriage, lust is not a sin in marriage because it's done primarily for procreation (in an ideal christian setting) and not pleasure/lust, in a christian perspective.
Notice how he refers to the OT's commandment of not committing adultery and then says "anyone who looks at a women with lust has already committed adultery in his heart", Hes not having unlawful intercourse with her inside or outside of marriage, but he is still sinning.
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No.16941
>>16940
>You're actually right, regardless lust is seen as a sin. Lust is suppose to be for marriage, lust is not a sin in marriage because it's done primarily for procreation (in an ideal christian setting) and not pleasure/lust, in a christian perspective.
And? How does it follow that marrying multiple women is sinful?
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No.16942
>>16941
>How does it follow that marrying multiple women is sinful?
That was more about lusting outside of/before marriage as a sin. This part shows marriage being a union of two people.
>Genesis 2:24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
>Mark 10:6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.’So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
I'm just sharing the Christian belief, ultimately it's your choice.
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No.16943
>>16942
There are many other verses showing marriage of one man with multiple women and it is never condemned or outlawed.
https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/polygamy.html
Thanks for sharing your perspective anyway.
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No.16945
>>16943
>Thanks for sharing your perspective anyway.
It's not my perspective. That site is questionable, since it makes the error i corrected about Christians following the OT (regarding the moral law and the ceremonial law, see webm for details), it's professing Sola Scripta while ignoring the creed of Christianity.
Be very careful with sites that don't follow established scriptural understanding, this is how cults get started or organizations like the scofiled's bible or Christian-Zionism or other imitations become.There are certain themes in the bible that require the church's insight for this, such as the trinity. Notice how the site say's it doesn't follow any creeds. Yet the Nicene Creed is vital to the theology of Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible
People were able to see that the Scofield's bible was a fake because it didn't follow the majority's understanding of scripture.
https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/polygamy.html
>It is very important that we look to the Scriptures to define what "adultery" is instead of holding to a slanted Western definition of adultery.U.S. law on this matter reflects the ideas of Roman culture and the apostate Roman Catholic Church and is not aligned with God's law.
I understand why protestants are against the Catholic church, however it's not just the Catholics that agree on Polygamy being adultery, baptist, orthodox also agree and are by nature opposing to the Catholicism.
https://www.gotquestions.org/monogamy-Bible.html
>Monogamy is the practice or state of being married to only one person at a time. When God instituted the covenant of marriage, He designed the relationship to be monogamous. In Genesis 2:21–22, God created Adam and then formed a woman, Eve, from one of his ribs and brought her to the man. God did not create several women for Adam, which would have been helpful in fulfilling the command to populate the earth (Genesis 1:27–28). Adam responded with the joyful proclamation that Eve was “bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh” (verse 23), followed by this declaration: “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh” (verse 24). Jesus echoed this truth when He was asked about divorce (Matthew 19:5). He then added, “So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate” (Matthew 19:6). From the very beginning of the Bible, monogamy is the model.
>In every biblical account of men having multiple wives, there is conflict. Families not based on a monogamous relationship paid a price. Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar were the first “love triangle” gone bad—jealousy arose when the younger Hagar became pregnant when the older Sarah could not (Genesis 16:1–5). Rachel and Leah vied for Jacob’s affection, which led to bringing in servant girls to be their husband’s concubines (Genesis 30). The prophet Samuel was born into a household where his mother Hannah was constantly provoked by her husband’s other wife, Peninnah (1 Samuel 1:4–6).
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No.16947
>>16945
>I understand why protestants are against the Catholic church, however it's not just the Catholics that agree on Polygamy being adultery, baptist, orthodox also agree and are by nature opposing to the Catholicism.
That is not what the Bible teaches though. Even Martin Luther noticed this and stated
>I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter.
We've probably discussed this topic enough here. This is a fetish board, not a religion board after all. Start a thread about this on /christian/ if you want. I doubt anyone's minds will be changed though. There are Christians (not just Mormons) who practice polygamy to this day, because they see nothing against it in the Bible.
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No.16948
>>16939
>Here is the tricky part of this. Marriage exist before the bible, but the bible also establishes the beginning of creation. A good example of this would be the Noah flood and how having a unique record of a previous well known even can give it credibility.
A previous well known what? I feel like you skipped a word.
In any case, I'm not concerned with who's creation story one believes, I'm talking about rules set down in a religion.
>Greeks and Roman pagans wanted the bible to appeal to pagans, so they would change stuff like making the lunar calendar to a sun calendar and changing the Sabbath to sunday and saturn-day for the jews.
By 'Greek and Roman pagans wanting the bible to appeal to pagans', I'm going to assume you mean 'Greek and Roman christians', because that's the only way any of this makes any sense. Pagans had neither the impetus or ability to change the bible.
I'm not really sure what you're accusing them of altering in relation to monogamy-polygamy. The Greeks and Romans were monogamists from the pre-christian era, and therefore that became the institution after conversion. Since they became the two centers of religious authority after the Roman Empire fell apart, this would, eventually, become the standard for christianity.
For a few centuries, you had people like the Franks under the Merovingian dynasty, who were very much polygamists and christians. 'Pagan' is not a monolith, so you see this with some groups and not others, having most to do with their cultural norms before conversion. It wasn't adherence to any scripture that made the Franks and others stop under future dynasties, it was a mix of cultural shifts and orders of the catholic church.
I'm not watching your 45 minute religious conspiracy video. If you have a point to make, make it.
>It differs from denom, but generally it's a mixture of the Christian church and scripture. I don't understand why you're saying otherwise.
Because the bible doesn't seem to go into it much. It likes to talk about adultery, but that really doesn't reflect on whether it's polygamy or monogamy. Adultery can be defined as a man having sex with a woman who is married to another man, a married man having sex with a woman who he is not married to, or both at once. This doesn't change meaning under a polygamous system - having two wives is not adultery because you're married to both of them.
There's some 'man and wife' type stuff, reinforcing the sanctity of marriage, but doesn't address whether this has to be the sole marriage.
It remains that monogamy is universal because Rome and Constantinople were putting down the rules, and they were monogamous societies dating from before christianity (on account of that is the only way you can have a proper, functioning civilization). It became church doctrine because the church said so, not because the bible did.
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No.16949
>/cuckquean/'s resident ecclesiastical scholars working tirelessly to bring Christianity and cuckqueaning together
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No.16950
>>16949
Yes, although it’s something we’ve already discussed to death complete with citations and historiography so I’m not really interested in participating in this round.
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No.16956
>>16948
>Adultery can be defined as a man having sex with a woman who is married to another man, a married man having sex with a woman who he is not married to, or both at once.
If a married man has sex with an unmarried women, is it adultery?
No, she became his wife (Genesis 4:19; 29:23-30; 31:17; 32:22; 36:2,6, Exodus 21:10, Deuteronomy 21:15-17; 25:5-10, Judges 8:30, 1 Samuel 1:2; 25:42-43; 30:18, 2 Samuel 5:13, 1 Kings 11:1-3, 1 Chronicles 4:5; 8:8; 14:3, 2 Chronicles 11:21; 12:7-8; 13:21; 24:3, Daniel 5:2-3).
Adultery requires a married woman to be involved. Lusting after and later sleeping with an unmarried woman is not adultery. It's fornication and requires them to become married afterwards unless a party, including the woman's father, does not desire such.
So in a sense the Bible does condone cuckqueaning, however it stipulates that the vixen should become the new wife.
Also, in Mathew when Jesus mentions adultery, the women he is referring to is married women. Otherwise he'd have used fornication. Otherwise he would not be upholding the commandments and teachings of god and would be trying to change the unchanging laws of god.
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No.16963
>>15398
What's a good place to live? Despite all the stereotypes dealing with people in a small town in the Midwest is kind of a shitshow. I see a fair number of cuckqueans on the map in the South, is that coincidental?
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No.16965
>>16956
>So in a sense the Bible does condone cuckqueaning, however it stipulates that the vixen should become the new wife.
I could see this being good fodder for stories.
For example:
>irreligious guy gets sick of single life and wants to settle down
>meets chaste, modest virgin girl and asks her out
>she says she could only be with another christian and invites him to church and bible study
>he actually finds himself getting into it and becomes a believer
>girl falls in love with him
>they get married
>as he continues studying the bible he is troubled to realize he's obligated to marry the girls he's had sex with in the past
>shows wife
>"th..that can't be right!"
>she looks into it
>it's right
>welp..
>they realize he's obligated to track down, court and convert all the buxom, worldly ladies he's lain with before
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No.16966
>>16965
This is perfect. What a great idea.
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No.16967
>>16966 (check'd)
Someone up stairs must be smiling upon us.
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No.17046
>>16963
You just reminded me that last time I checked the map, there was a single cuckquean in my city.
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No.17066
>>16926
>I used to erroneously think this fetish was in favor of men (that it was somehow a special selfless love for men)
This stuck with me and having thought about it more I think it's not that it's in favour of men, but a man. You can discuss why that happens but I think quite a few cuckqueans do become very selfless on top of it just being a fetish.
In real life is any given cuckquean's man particularly "higher tier". No, not objectivity. She makes him into one in her own mind and their relationship though, so maybe that's a big part of it.
On a simpler and more common level any couple can specifically try to very polite and respectful to each other as a very active and deliberate thing. Do either of them deserve to be treated so well in comparison to how other couples treat each other? It's beside the point, because they both benefit from that mindfulness. They could both be very poor and ugly but yet they are living in a marital bliss purely brought about by strength of will.
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No.17078
>>16921
>implying there's anything wrong with harems and alpha males spreading their genes while human trash doesn't
Holy shit, can you at least try to be a bit ideologically pure over there at nu/pol/?
TL;DR he wants "equality". He wants sexual communism where pussy is evenly distributed to each according to his needs and every untermensch loser out there can spread his inferior genes "so that nobody gets left out". This is how NEETsocs build the master race.
And somehow the "betas", domesticated /soyboy/ drones that sit with their macbooks at Starbucks and vote for Hillary are "heroes who built civilization" while the alpha right-wing nationalists aren't trying to save Evropa but are too busy fucking thirsty bitches in some forest.
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No.17081
>>17078
The only good thing communism has ever achieved is that cat girl and only if you don't know anything about the character's backstory.
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No.17082
>>17081
>and only if you don't know anything about the character's backstory
I can't even imagine what kind of backstory they would give her.
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No.17083
>>17082
Let us never speak of this again.
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No.17125
>>17082
It's not the character's backstory. It's the character's creation's story. She's just the self-insert of /leftypol/'s board owner.
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No.17126
>>17125
Please don't explain any further. What can be gained from it? If only eye bleach was real.
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No.17127
>>17126
Who exactly are we talking about?
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No.17130
>>17127
Heed my warning. Turn away from this line of enquiry. Seriously, trust me on this! Don't end up in the future thinking to yourself "damn, I wish I listened to that anon because now I know there are some things not meant for human eyes and ears".
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No.17138
>>17130
Damn, now I feel sorry for her. Is there a way to save fictional characters?
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No.17152
>>17138
Appropriate them by producing more and better content than the creator and rewriting traits as you please.
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No.17225
>>17078
>He wants sexual communism
No, sexual communism would be of men lined up for one women, like a communist bank.
>He wants sexual communism where pussy is evenly distributed to each according to his needs and every untermensch loser out there can spread his inferior genes "so that nobody gets left out".
You totally misread or selectively read the image
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No.17227
>>17066
>I think it's not that it's in favour of men, but a man.
>You can discuss why that happens but I think quite a few cuckqueans do become very selfless on top of it just being a fetish.
I understand what you're saying, It's something special the cuckquean does for her bf/husband, and becomes something more from the fetish (i don't think that's an accurate term because a fetish is something necessary for sexual gratification) and it's indeed something selfless. Regardless the driving factor is sexual excitement. It's similar to the sex appeal that men indulge into regarding women's physique, yet it aren't seen as men actually caring for women despite all the amount of attention given to women.
This goes against the board, but there is only one genuine pure form of sex that isn't twisted by sexual gratification, the one for procreation.
Feel free to disagree with me, this paraphernalia has fascinated and perplexed me, it has made me think about how i view sexual excitement and relationships.
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No.17228
>>17227
Yes. Of course you'd have to be a bit naive to think it's not about sex.
A big part of sexual excitement is being desired by someone else and making them get off. The majority of people's hang ups are based around not being able to do that (can't perform, not attractive enough, too boring, not experienced enough, etc).
Things like cuckqueaning can be an enhanced version of the typical dominant/submission dynamic between men and women that's derived from the physical mechanics of sex and differences in strength. So a woman is attracted to a dominant man, enjoys being submissive and knows that her submission makes him more dominant. It's a virtuous circle.
>but there is only one genuine pure form of sex
It doesn't go against the board. The idea that sex with cuckqueans should only be for procreation while using vixens for gratification has been brought up many times.
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No.17238
Cucks, do you see your man (or ideal man if single) as a party animal?
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No.17239
>>17225
>not real communism!
Call it what you want, but he doesn't want the sexual market to regulate itself and he doesn't believe that people are responsible enough to make and uphold a marriage contract without the government enforcing it. The only way for civilization to prosper according to him is for the state to force people to marry, and in such a way that the ratio of men to women is always 1:1 (regardless of the quality of the men and women).
>b-but that's good! women are sluts who always divorce first!
Because the state is currently involved in marriage and provides them an incentive to do so. Not that I'm defending them, higher-IQ women still divorce less often, but it's the lower-IQ women I'm worried about.
State involvement always provides short-term solutions but ends up making long-term problems which people think they can solve with even more statism.
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No.17243
>>17239
Weak states are inherently vulnerable whenever they coexist with strong states. A country defended by alphas is vulnerable to nukes. A country which is defended by Betas will have both its own nuclear deterrent and proper ABM's.
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No.17244
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No.17249
>>17243
>>17244
What are you even trying to argue at this point?
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No.17259
>>17243
What does that have to do with anything I said?
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No.17266
>>17239
>he doesn't believe that people are responsible enough to make and uphold a marriage contract without the government enforcing it
wrong.
>The only way for civilization to prosper according to him is for the state to force people to marry,
wrong again.
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No.17270
>>17081
>cat girl
>girl
heh
>>17127
google leftypol board owner and click images, should be the 2nd or 3rd result, there's also videos of it sucking and gagging on a dude's cock somewhere, it's gross af
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No.17273
>>17270
You know? I think I'm good.
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No.17278
How can I protect this cinnamon roll of a board from male anons who are not ready to behave?
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No.17280
>>17278
I've always been fond of violence.
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No.17281
>>16940
Her voice makes my body weak. And the words that man is saying makes me angry.
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No.17284
>>17278
'Don't ask, don't tell' policy for dudes outside this thread?
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No.17285
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No.17303
>>17278
>2k18
>still being so intolerant
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No.17307
>>17284
We already have that. What do you think 'dick or gtfo' means?
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No.17308
>>17307
Oh yeah, I'm aware of that. I meant the board owner just deleting posts by guys who mention being guys outside of this thread, without us even bothering to post dicks or GTFO first.
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No.17310
>>17308
I think that's a little harsh as a blanket rule. Sometimes it's relevant to the topic. The problem is more that they're making the conversation about their dick, rather than them admitting to having one.
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No.17311
>>17310
I dunno, I kinda feel like it's a bit too harsh as well and it has the potential to drive some quality male anons away all because of a ban, but at the same time I agree with >>17308 I'm getting a bit sick of the "As a male anon" posts I see sprinkled in every other thread. I don't think it would be any problem for people to give their own personal perspectives, of course, but the amount of people who do so WITHOUT being asked for it is sorta annoying. I dunno, maybe it just has to do with the wording they use to start some of those posts, it typically reeks of attention whoring.
then again…
>implying there are any guys lurking in the first place
>implying they're aren't all pathetic cucks living vicariously as their pretend boyfriends
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No.17312
>>17311
>I'm getting a bit sick of the "As a male anon"
It's honestly hard to believe for me that there are actually some, let alone plenty of women in this board. Yet, I don't question it because there's no need for me and that would defeat the point of anonymity in the first place.
I get why other guys would do that, but saying you are a man in the first place in a board supposedly full of women is kinda of attention whorish, as much as it would be the other way around.
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No.17313
>>17278
Keep directing them to this containment thread
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No.17655
Hello, >>>/soyboys/ here, I am shaking as I am writing this… the anti-PTSD meds aren't helping at all. I was just looking for some good cuck porn when I found this board, and I was shocked to discover what's being posted here, I had to immediately step away from the computer and do some anti-stress kegels to try and calm myself down.
My question to you women is, are you oppressed? Does this make you happy? Do you actually enjoy things of such unfeminist nature and if so, then why? It all just seemed like white males being ironic at first, but to my horror, it isn't so. Also, why would you enable the patriarchy by letting your man sleep with other women? It's like all the progress we made together over the years was for nothing. Why not get a harem of obedient white boys for yourselves instead, or maybe find a handsome black man with a big p*nis? What's wrong with that? Women are supposed to be sexually liberated and adventurous, so I would understand it if you were raised in misogynistic countries where they didn't teach you about feminism, otherwise, I'm compelled to believe that you were brainwashed by nazis! If you don't know what feminism is btw, then please visit us at /soyboys/, we are all nice guys who will always listen to your problems and give you a shoulder to cry on when you need it. We respect women so much that even the alt-right fears us!
Thank you for your attention. For I'm going to go brew some soy tea and maybe meditate until my wife returns from her date.
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No.17657
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No.17661
>>15556
>The invention of agriculture suddenly caused something like 80% of men to no longer reproduce for a couple centuries until society adapted to the new social structure and invented marriage as a way to maintain social order.
Source on that?
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No.17662
>>15860
Ladies & Gentleman, the only sane person in this entire fucking thread. Only Complaint I have is:
>Otherwise try asking one by one.
As I think that the rather obvious implication behind the original question was more:
A)How do I figure out which girls wouldn't be offended if I asked them about Cuckqueaning, and
B)How do I ask in a way that isn't insanely fucking creepy.
Both of which are entirely legitimate questions considering that we're on an image-board thread specifically set aside for male n00bs who don't know what they're doing.
>>15923
Motherfucker, can you read?
>Giving one person complete freedom within their preferred set and the other person limited freedom is not fair. WHICH IS FINE IF THE OTHER PERSON WANTS TO, OR IS HAPPY TO BE LIMITED AND RESTRICTED IN SUCH A WAY.
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No.17663
>>15398
Here goes. I've suspected but I guess am wondering about an outside opinion about my wife being a potential cuckquean.
She is very bi, her first sexual experiences were with another female. We have had 3somes and she is very much into the "jealous" aspects of watching me with another woman. This I have proven while wearing a lab coat and running the numbers.
She wants sex WAY more when there is… I dunno how she see's it "competition" maybe?
We would be open for a triad but you know unicorns and such. Though she does have a friend of ours we have 3'd with who is single and that would be amazing to try out her cuckquean side with the friend as the vixen.
>tl;dr
Bi wife
likes to watch
>unicorns are actually real
Her friend does browse chans, so if you see this. Girl! Holla at'cha boy! You got a franchise!
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No.17664
>>17662
>tripfagging
>>17663
>reddit spacing
>calling imageboards "chans"
>Holla at'cha boy! You got a franchise!
Did someone tell Reddit about /cuckquean/ or what?
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No.17665
>>17664
Shit, sorry. Tripfagging was accidental. I'm board-switching, and I keep forgetting to delete that. This is the second fucking time I've made that mistake on /cuckquean/, too.
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No.17677
I have no trouble getting lots of women to like me, but I’m wondering just how best to make a legit harem work.
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No.17679
>>17677
>Literally a whole thread about this:
https://8ch.net/cuckquean/res/4852.html
If you're asking how to create a harem in the first place, find a Cuckquean, and start recruiting. If you're wondering how to do that, welcome to the fucking club.
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No.17692
Newfag here. I have not so much a question but rather a personal observation. Polygamy with men owning several women is the natural state of mankind, designed by God. A relatively small percentage of alpha males owning harems of women, say 7 each might be typical under normal conditions.
Through war and other depredations throughout history most males would forge ahead taming lands, acquiring resources, and driving back wild beasts. Naturally there would be a large attrition in this group leaving smaller numbers of males in general and hardening the subgroup up as a whole.
All the while the women and children would be sheltering with the caretaker garrisons inside fortified areas, what were called walled cities or towns (but were really just hamlets or villages in general).
The current growth of comfortable, modern life and especially the rise of the Communist style perversion of Capitalism that's rampant in the US for example – a situation that allows hordes fat black women and their truckloads of children to be kept in a comfortable state on my dime and yours for example – has created the conditions that have given rise to so-called feminism and the assertion that 'all females are stronk, indepyndynt womyn who don't need no man'.
When TSHTF and all this degeneracy collapses under it's own miserable weight, the world will see a return to the more natural order of things and all you cuckqueans and your men will be proven to be the only healthy, sane group left.
May all you women and your daughters find good men to weather the coming storms with.
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No.17697
>>17664
NEWFAG BINGO!
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No.17699
>>15860
Anyone else disgusted by the idea of being a part of 'kink and poly friendly communities'? I feel like our fetish has no relation to polyamory/swinging/two way open relationships, cuckolding, femdom, etc. Those things feel to me more like the opposite end of the fetish spectrum, with normie monogamy in the center, rather than us having any sort of kinship with those people just because we're both out of the mainstream.
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No.17702
>>17699
Dubs speak the truth. I used to be on Fetlife and there was a lot of tolerance for Msub betas, genderfluids, and other degenerates, which I only accepted to fit in. I left when I realized that the nagging feeling of disgust at the back of my mind was right.
And then there's the strong emphasis on going to clubs, which is basically just selling the whole clubbing culture to another demographic.
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No.17703
>>17697
Tripfag =/= Newfag. Don't even use tripcodes normally, but fuck you for the insult.
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>>17699
>>17702
>Browsing imageboards.
>Calling others degenerate.
Fucking pick one.
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No.17704
>>17702
>>17699
My 'quean and I attended a few munches and found a couple of vixens, but we stopped going after being worn down by a few too many glassy-eyed stares when my 'quean explained her fetish and creepy guys who couldn't quite get their heads around the idea that she was in the sexually exclusive part of our relationship. Each time we left feeling vaguely nauseated, and very much like we passed in that community but didn't really want to belong.
I guess the fetish community is like any community in that it contains a lot of people you don't want to know mixed in with a few you do.
>>17703
They weren't addressing you exclusively, tripfag. New can be cured by lurking but apparently tripfagging is a chronic illness.
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No.17707
>>17704
>New can be cured by lurking but apparently tripfagging is a chronic illness.
This.
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No.17747
So my girlfriend recently expressed interest in seeing me fuck another girl. She first mentioned it while we were having sex. She's been talking about it more frequently since, suggesting a friend move in for a 3way relationship. She's now talking a lot about Asian girls, schoolgirl short skirt pigtail style shit. She has been playing these waveya videos of dancing kpop girls and I think it's on her mind a lot and she's ready, we talk about it every time we fuck. I've had 3somes before but never a cuckquean; I guess my question is: where do I go from here? Uncharted territory big time, I want to make sure everyone's happy. Dancing Asian girls on TV, gf next to me. All advice appreciated.
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No.17748
>tfw dating cute petite asian girl
>really love her
>my dick is too big for her so we don't have penetrative sex all that often (takes a lot of work anyway)
>Really like the idea of cuckqueans
>she's not into it
I'd love it if I could cuck my girlfriend. I really get off on the idea of fucking random sluts and just destroying them (Something about treating women like shit is really hot) but always come back to the woman I truly love to be the one who gets treated right. I'd never want to actually be that rough with her since she's so delicate and I don't want to hurt her.
<You want to "turn" your gf into a cuck?
I'd love to but I don't see it happening unfortunately.
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No.17752
>>17747
Be aware that you are dating a tulpa, willed into existence by cuckqueans. Failure to get her a proper vixen could damage the space-time continuum.
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No.17753
>>17748
>Something about treating women like shit is really hot
Don't make this weirder than it needs to be.
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No.17759
>>17747
>Suggesting a friend move in for a 3way relationship.
1)Is the friend Asian, or is her desire to form a triad disconnected from the Asian fetish?
2)Does your GF know the term "Cuckquean", and the culture surrounding it, or does she think she's mostly unique? Have you ever discussed this with her?
3)If you do decide to cuck her, make sure it's with someone you don't know first. If you actually do it, and outside of a fantasy, she decides that she hates it, then you don't want to fuck up an existing friendship over this shit.
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No.17760
>>17752
Any advice here srsly
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No.17761
>>17759
Her friend in question wasn't Asian, the racial aspect appears to have evolved/come out. I asked her if it was cuz it would make her jealous and horny and she said yes. She told me to find an Asian girl in the city but we just moved here and it's like 99% white. We'll have to go online or to Asian restaurants lol. Any other general advice? How should I treat my gf? Etc
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No.17841
Most husbands are wary of the milkman around their home. What would be the equivalent to a milkman for a housewife?
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No.17842
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No.17848
>>17841
If the dynamic is the same with the husband working and the wife at home, it could be secretaries, HR women, or female executives. Plus he could meet women after work. If you specifically need an example that could happen in the home, I'd say neighbors and babysitters could qualify. Airbnb is a little more hypothetical for most people. And of course >>17842
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No.17857
>>17841
>the milkman
>a 19th century idiom at best
Do.. do they still do Milkmen in your part of the world anon?
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No.17859
>>17857
I remember having a regular milkman service when I lived in Cambridge in the 90s.
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No.17947
1. Is maledom inherently part of cuckquean interests?
2. Are vixens a separate fetish, a type of cuckquean, or just women who want casual sex?
3. What is your ideal ratio of sexual intercourse between your man and other women versus your man and you?
4. Where is your man right now?
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No.17953
>>17947
>Is maledom inherently part of cuckquean interests?
'Inherently' might not be the correct word. There are several cuckquean situations where mdom is not necessary. Some girls fantasize a femdom scenario - where she and her man dominate another girl (the "Vixen") as her man fucks the vixen and she whispers how dirty she is and should feel lucky that she lets her man fuck her. The man may/may not dominate the Vixen; the cuckquean is free from maledom.
Another scenario would be a polygamous/polyamorous situation, or Harem in layman. Here, the man is in love with several girls and while there may be some domplay for fun, there is equality across the family; the cuckquean just enjoys her man having beautiful girls to fuck and keeping him happy.
Yet another scenario would be where a man is cheating. Some girls fantasize about her man cheating on her with his secretary, his old childhood love, an affair she doesn't know about or couldn't do anything about. This falls under masochism.
And then there's lesbian cuckquean…
However, mdom/fsub is commonly seen because of its popularity and how well it fits with the cuckquean dynamic. Cuckqueaning Feels like the next step for submissiveness; he doesn't even want you as a piece of meat, he can get much better pussy. He's a man and he desires more women to fuck and thats his power. Then from the man's perspective - what's better than owning a slave girl? Owning two slave girls.
I would conclude that maledom+fsub and cuckqueaning has a huge intersection, not inherent or a subset. One can develop independant of another.
>Are vixens a separate fetish, a type of cuckquean, or just women who want casual sex?
Coming to terminology, especially here in /cuckquean/, a Vixen is the other girl that the man fucks, and cuckquean is the one the man fucks. Other places like Tumblr like to the other girls "cuckcakes" which isn't aesthically pleasing. She's not a separate fetish, nor a type of cuckquean (what are types of cuckquean?). The vixen can be just looking for casual sex, or a long term affair.
>What is your ideal ratio of sexual intercourse between your man and other women versus your man and you?
It depends on the man and woman.
>Ideal
100% between man and her. She's there for cum cleaning and cooking. And cuddles.
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No.17954
>>17947
>>17953
Sort of reiterating some of what was already said, but yes, maledom doesn't have to be part of it, but it frequently is. Since cuckqueaning involves a power dynamic by nature - that the man is free to have sex outside of the relationship, but the woman is not - it easily lends itself to related power dynamics that aren't necessarily required for cuckqueaning, but easily fit with it, and which the people involved often find appealing. This frequently does manifest as the man being dominant, but it can just as easily manifest as the vixen being dominant over the cuckquean, or vice versa. Or at least that's how a lot of the fantasy goes for a lot of us. I couldn't tell you how often it really works out that way or not. Many of us here could imagine ideal situations in which the man is a strict dominant over his submissive and plain wife, and spends his time fucking a beautiful vixen who gets off on sexually bullying the wife… but real life doesn't necessarily always break down the same way as our fantasies.
Vixens are part of the fetish, but the woman who is the vixen may or may not actually have interest in the fetish. What makes her the vixen is that she's fucking the cuckquean's man. Her level of involvement beyond that doesn't change the status. There are women who get off on being the 'other woman' in this dynamic, but this is actually pretty rare. If they are into being a vixen, it frequently is something that starts with attachment to a specific man/couple (much like a lot of cuckqueans, actually), and may end with that, as well.
There are women who get off on the idea of 'stealing' a man from another woman, likely as a validation of her sexual prowess. But as some people here can tell you, this is dependent on the man's gf/wife not knowing, and that they'll quickly lose interest if they find out that said gf/wife is completely on board with it. Why this is, is not always consistent or clear. It could be that it takes away the 'illicit' nature of the affair, that they know they can't 'steal' him from her (whether she actually wanted to or not may be completely immaterial), or that they perceive it as some sort of abuse on the part of the man, and that the gf/wife is being treated unfairly. No, that last one doesn't make any sense, considering that she was the one that wanted to have an affair behind the gf/wife's back, but is now offended when she finds out it's consensual. But that's people for you.
Since most women (or men for that matter) don't want to be someone's full time marital aid/third wheel in a relationship, or become part of a polygamous relationship, I don't think most vixen relationships are long term. A vixen that's into being the vixen, is close with both the man and cuckquean, and wants to be a longstanding or permanent part of their relationship, would be ideal. We call those unicorns, I think.
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No.17965
>>17953
>>17954
Interesting read, thank you for your help.
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No.17981
Honest question:
How much of these cuckquean kink is about lowkey lesbianism?
After lurking for a while I started to see a pattern, you know the little docile Asian waifu getting railed by your man, etc.
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No.17983
>>17981
Sexualising asian girls is a bit different from normal lesbianism or being bisexual because of the presumed power imbalance. Using an asian girl as a fantasy object is less "real" than if she was another white women.
Pasted from the "Types of cuckquean" document:
Lesbian cuckquean
Usually in denial about being a lesbian she finds herself extremely attracted to other girls but lives vicariously through her man’s vixens. Jumps at the first opportunity to have sex with them, rationalising her feelings away by calling it “just a threesome” or that she’s being “forced” to serve other girls by them or her man. Sometimes not in denial at all but deliberately and purposely trying to live as a straight girl using the cuckquean fetish as a kind of pressure release valve or even to avoid straight sex.
In my experience of tumblr cuckqueans (which is not necessarily representative) this "lesbian cuckquean" definition was quite low in the ranking of options women associated with. In fact there were more women who were openly bisexual or lesbian.
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No.17985
>>17983
Thank you for the prompt response.
>In fact there were more women who were openly bisexual or lesbian.
Im confused by your post (maybe my english is not that good)
So are bi/lesbians the majority of the kink or not?
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No.17986
>>17985
I meant of those who associated with "lesbian cuckquean", most were bisexual or lesbian rather than in denial or struggling with it. Of the total however I would say no, the majority do not identify as bisexual or lesbian. They don't have much reason to be dishonest as their blogs are already mainly focused on a niche sexuality, so I tended to take their word for it.
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No.17987
>>17986
Thank you for the clarification.
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No.17988
>>17987
No problem. By the way, all of the bisexual and lesbian cuckqueans had boyfriends or husbands. Weird, but true.
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No.17989
>>17988
Thats curious.
Do you think its kin to the gay men from long ago? Having a Facade or more like
>Yea will eat pussy but 9/10 times I have dick for dinner
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No.17990
>>17989
In some cases it is, and perhaps the facade is for public consumption, but it really seems that in the majority of cases such cuckqueans are honest about it the reasons behind it (submission, masochism, liking girls but wanting to see them with a man voyeuristically, wanting a family, etc). So that's different from the closet/beard thing where the wife was lied to and it was secret.
Related to this, a large proportion of bisexual women end up in a long term relationship with a man. They are referred to with the derogatory term "bihet" by the bad part of tumblr. Our side taking over though so that kind of prejudice is going by the wayside.
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No.17991
>>17990
So you trying to take focus on tumblr then?
Some of their subs seem more active than the 8chan board.
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No.17996
>>17991
Tumblr is more active than this board?!
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No.17997
>>17996
Well there are threads from 2016 in this board.
Not hard data to back my statement though.
Take is as an uneducated guess.
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No.17999
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No.18000
>>17999
Just being honest.
This board doesnt have that much pulse.
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No.18001
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No.18002
>>18001
I say this >>18000 with a heavy heart.
Some of the caption pics are pretty good.
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No.18004
>>17981
I think cuckqueans take pleasing their man very seriously.
Lesbians don’t exist.
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No.18005
>>18004
They are real in the 2D universe.
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No.18009
>>18004
>No, I'm not into guys. I'm a lesbian and that'll never change but I want to at least try to learn to be straight so please fuck all my girlfriends while I watch. You'll need to help me avoid the temptation of jumping on them after you're done though. If you don't hold me back there's no telling what I'll do to her freshly fucked body…
for example is the sort of thing a 100% straight girl could pretend to be into to turn on her man.
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No.18011
>>18009
>100% straight girl could pretend to be into to turn on her man
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No.18039
>>18011
Still more realistic than "100% homosexual" girls that actually look or sound like a biological female.
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No.18046
>>18039
The truth is that lesbians do exist but they aren't the type of lesbians most of us would like. But in 2D things are different and, with the exception of Lightning Tracer, it is possible to have hot lesbians.
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No.18069
Is there any interest in my experiences as a partner? Though I'm yet to fuck anyone in front of a girlfriend unfortunately but it's a common topic for me.
If so, where would I post this sort of thing? These threads are ancient.
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No.18091
Going to keep this one short and simple.
I'm almost certain my girlfriend is a cuckquean but doesn't actually know that yet, how do I explain that to her without freaking her out?
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No.18092
>>18091
Oh and I should have mentioned we've been together for 3 years and are extremely intimate and loving, so I have a lot more options available to me that would normally blow up in a guy's face, if that helps.
Her personality also pretty much perfectly mirrors the cuckquean girls around here, she basically really gets off on humiliation and making me happy.
She also tells me how excited it makes her to think about stuff like watching me have sex with another girl or how she wants to lick my cock clean after I cum in said other girl, and so on and so forth.
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No.18096
>>18092
I'd try amping up the cuckqueanish talk to see where it goes. Make sure you respond positively to the fantasies you mentioned she brings up. Try to embolden her to get into it more and express these fantasies. Very important that you make her feel safe and accepted in these feelings. Make sure she knows her fantasies turn you on as well. If this has a positive return, you can start bringing up fantasies yourself. Once you're both comfortable enough with these topics, you can have a frank discussion about it without worrying about any freakouts. It might just be something she wants to keep in fantasy, it might not be. Be supportive either way, obviously. Sometimes fantasies become something she'll want to try later, maybe not. But your chances will be better the more safe and accepted she feels about it, and your relationship. Makes sure she knows you'd never just cheat on her, or try to push her into it.
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No.18097
>>18096
Yeah, that's all super sensible stuff, doing all this already actually. Except the bit about having had a direct, full-blown discussion about it.
The whole thing started as just teasing her when we were really excited, cause she's always been really into degradation and humiliation stuff and says things on her own like how she wants to lick my spit off the floor. Or how she would like to suck on my cock together with the other girl and says it excites her to think about having me be well taken care of and made to feel really good, and such things.
I wasn't really expecting anything, but she got really fascinated with the concept of me having sex with another girl, and here we are.
In hindsight, I thought it was weird when she talked about how her ex once made her watch him get blown by another girl and she didn't get angry at all, just stared and didn't really react. I couldn't figure that one out for a long time. She didn't even sound that upset when she talked about it.
Bear in mind he was a total asshole and it wasn't actually planned or talked about or anything like that, so it was definitely not okay to do. Basically he was just trying to hurt her, but turned out she didn't have a predictable reaction to it at all.
Does this sound like full blown cuckqueanism to you girls? What's the diagnosis, doc?
Pic related, it was basically me when I heard that story and saw and heard how calm she was, and still is, about it.
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No.18104
>>18097
Unsurprisingly, the nature of submissive women like that tends to attract predatory guys like that. This does make it important to reassure her of your intentions, if she's been mistreated by previous partners. But of course, you know her best, and this isn't a new relationship, so use your judgement.
There's no litmus test for cuckqueanery, but it sounds like she has leanings. Stay the course. If you can find a way to introduce her to cuckquean content online, that could help to get the gears turning, but I wouldn't be too aggressive about it.
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No.18105
>>18104
Yeah, I'll keep looking into it with her. She's enjoying it and that's all I really need to know anyways.
Thanks a lot for the advice.
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No.18107
>been in relationship with qt virgin autist girl for 3 months
>rigidly reject advances because I don't want to despoil her before marriage, at least until I am financially secure to provide a serious prospect for lifetime commitment
>still I'm a horndog that could never complete a no-fap September or even a gloomy rainy week of it
Is cuckqueaning the solution? Assuming I can successfully flirt other girls, how do I make it so that I don't force her to consent to a compromise she doesn't actually want?
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No.18109
>>18104
>Unsurprisingly, the nature of submissive women like that tends to attract predatory guys like that.
Psychology 101 women are drawn to those sorts of guys and not the reverse.
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No.18110
>>18107
I feel like 3 months is not enough time in a relationship to start cucking her.
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No.18111
>>18107
>Start cucking a girl you haven't even made yours yet.
Sounds like poor planning to me
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No.18118
>>18107
>rigidly reject her advances
>but fuck other girls instead
>"i-it's better than playing with my dick!"
lmao, and then you wonder why she leaves you for Chad.
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No.18119
>>18097
Go through all the different things you want to do with another girl as a fantasy. Reassure her you mean as a fantasy and not in real life. Ask for her permission for each thing but tell her you want her to always say yes. Repeat that a few times. Once she's giving consent within a fantasy and feels comfortable getting off to that, you can simply change it up one day and replace fantasy with for real. She'll know her role is to say yes, and she can just keep doing that if she's into it.
>>18107
In an ideal world you'd only ever have proper natural sex with this girl. No condoms, no birth control. That way she'll retain a very high purity level even after you get married and start having sex. My personal view is that cuckqueaning is always the solution, before and after marriage, but does she actually want that? Is it right for her?
You're not forcing her consent by arguing your case or trying to make her appreciate it. The only time that's possible is if she feels you're blackmailing her either emotionally or with something else. If it's okay for her to say no and you're willing to accept that then there's no issue.
>>18111 (Checked)
>>18118
How many cuckqueans think back and wish they were cuckqueans from the start? For the guy they lost their virginity to? Maybe this guy isn’t crazy but actually some kind of romantic genius.
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No.18120
>>18119
What's your ideal relationship with the vixen(s)?
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No.18131
>>18118
Calm your tits. You sound more deprived than my gf.
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No.18132
>>18110
>>18111
>>18119
Unironically thanks for your input.
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No.18446
General question: how many would want to be cucked by a recurring third party, and how many would prefer more one-off scenarios? Given what little I've discussed, the latter seems to be more popular. Both when it comes to the breeding aspect and because at the end of the fun everyone still knows who matters and who's more or less just a plaything.
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No.18533
How do I find a GF that will be interested in helping me build a harem?
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No.18542
Do any girls on this website get off to the thought/reality of their boyfriend/husband knocking another woman up and then helping her through her pregnancy and birth?
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No.18566
My gf calls herself my sex slave and tells me she's not good enough to be my gf/fiancee and she's only good enough to be a sex slave, yet she's possessive and rejects the idea of me being with another women, what gives?
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No.18568
>>18566 (checked)
She’s submissive and not a cuckquean. It’s more common for women not to be cuckqueans than for them to be cuckqueans.
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No.18570
>>18542
Terrified of even the slightest possibility tbh, and not in a sexy way.
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No.18583
Anyone else interested in this fetish for an objective, scientific, breeding optimization sense? Like, not necessarily even in a sexy way? Like, you just want to optimize the next generation by convincing your guy to breed with as many good genetic subjects you can find to isolate beneficial traits while mitigating negative ones. Increasing the average IQ, beauty, and physical aptitude of the next generation while also lowering incidences of genetic illness seems more like a civil service than a kink, but it's something to think about.
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No.18584
>>18583
>Anyone else
I think that's the vast majority on the board in appearance. In essence it's just an excuse for thirsty cucks who try to make their degeneracy less antagonistic to /pol/'s puritanism and it's all good.
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No.18622
Okay, so I converted my submissive GF into a cuckquean. How do I find other girls to bang now? Should I go with random girls or girls specifically into the fetish? Can I cuckquean my gf with other cuckqueans or is that too meta?
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No.18624
>>18622
I'll only answer the last question. You can play cuckquean against cuckquean in a polygamous situation. It's theoretically efficient.
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No.18628
>>18624
That sounds good although I only do polylgyny and not polyamory. So which one of you cuckquean hoes wants to join this miggidy mack daddy's submissive loli harem?
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No.18631
I dont have a question I just wanna say that I wanna watch your expression why my cocktip slowly spreads the lips of another, more prettier woman's vagina.
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No.18633
>>18628
Only if you are a gorilla dick daddy who makes dyke pussy wet. (^:
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No.18638
>>18633
You can't win if you don't play.
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No.18640
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No.18710
I guess this fits in this thread more than any other, since it concerns men.
We've done a lot of talking, over time, about qualities that good vixens might haves, or even what kind of woman should be a cuckquean, but we've actually pretty rarely discussed what kind of men make cuckqueaning work. I think this is because a lot of cuckqueans develop the interest when they're already with a man, quite possibly in response to their feelings about him. There's less often a 'looking for a man is great, but that will also cuck me proper' phase.
So, what do you think, /cuckquean/? What kind of traits do you think make good partners for cuckqueans, or at least, what kind of traits do you, as a cuckquean, value in a partner? And I'm specifically talking about personality traits here, not things like his height, attractiveness, or ability to financially support someone.
To put it another way, if you were reading a story, watching a movie, or otherwise consuming a work of fiction, what kind of character would make you feel that 'Yes, that man's wife should be tasting another woman on him, it's only right'. It's come up a little before, like how, paradoxically, being very opposed to the idea of cheating is an appeal for some cuckqueans. But I'd like to know what other things cuckqueans think are appealing in men.
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No.18712
>>18710
I think it would depend on the type of cuckquean.
A compersive cuckquean would be best pleased by a sensitive man who wanted to ensure she was enjoying it. She's doing it for him to have fun.
A humilitation cuckquean would likely prefer a more authoritarian man. An austere, distant personality would contribute to her prejudice about feeling unworthy. She wants to be put in her place.
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No.18717
How to start talking about it, to approach the topic without her immediately think you just want a justified cheating.
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No.18766
If I have a gf who's into this, and a close female friend to whom I'm attracted. The friend has a bf with whom she keeps trying to break up, and he keeps begging her into taking him back. I'm wondering if me trying to convince the friend to cuck her bf with me would just be killing two birds with one stone, or some sort of awful transgression. It seems like the main one wronged would be her bf, who is a shithead, but does being a shithead mean he deserves being cucked? Is it justified? And if it isn't, would asking her to leave him for real to be our vixen be any better (even assuming she's interested, which I'm not sure of, but she does seem curious)?
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No.18770
>>18766
>I'm wondering if me trying to convince the friend to cuck her bf with me would just be killing two birds with one stone, or some sort of awful transgression.
The latter. You are trying to make excuses for it too, which is even worse.
Next!
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No.18772
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No.18791
How do I find a nice cuckquean and convince her that vanilla monogamy is best?
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No.18792
>>18791
The better question is why bother? If you're not interested in the lifestyle, why seek out a cuckquean?
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No.18804
>>18792
Something something more satisfying to corrupt.
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No.18950
>>18710
Guys like me who take whatever they want, when they want it.
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No.19007
>>16914
>This is due to her poor self esteem as her first husband left her for another woman.
Hope you did not end up with a wife's son.
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No.19008
>>17082
All the lore you need to know.
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No.19009
>>17239
>the pussy will trickle down
You are both idiots.
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No.19010
>>17278
The same way we defend everything that is pure, Pinky. With a National Socialist uprise.
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No.19011
>>18583
>Anyone else interested in this fetish for an objective, scientific, breeding optimization sense? Like, not necessarily even in a sexy way?
Does not compute.
By definition it's impossible to not have sexy with eugenics.
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No.19012
>>18633
You realize that gorillas have the smallest penis among great apes, right?
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No.19032
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No.19085
This question is REALLY aimed at females but obviously in seeking advice so guys go for it too.
Quick set up: I am my wife's second husband. She and I got together because her first husband was a cuck. In unhealed issues they got divorced. She and I have been together for 8 years through good and bad. I am kinky and into my step daughter. Wife is aware, daughter is aware and both are okay though daughter isn't interested in anything more than teasing me.
I've started this for context into the question.
My wife had shown s tendency towards jealousy (half the reason why I've not tested daughter more, other half is raising daughter boundaries when she puts them down) when daughter gets naughty attention, especially when daughter openly reciprocates.
Recently during sex my wife made s comment about me fucking younger girls (wife is older than me) and when I said "wouldn't you get jealous?" She said that if she could watch it'd be fine.
I'm not asking anyone to tell mr. If she's into it per se, I'm selling for an opinion on the consistency of her position.
I think she thinks that I wanted to hear that and said it for my benefit, but on the other hand she has taken pictures of other girls talked about other girls and indicated in the past that she enjoys my eyes wandering.
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No.19089
>>19085
What exactly is the question?
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No.19091
>>19085
Yeah what exactly is the question? Also am just curios did it have anything to do with her ex husband was a cuck? maybe she wants to watched him with other girls but he refuses?…
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No.19102
>>19085
Same anon.
Sorry, question was if it seemed (based on what I shared) incongruous or if it sounded like she might be into it and not quite willing to broach the subject?
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No.19123
All else being equal, how much of a turn-off is it for you if a man is 1) shorter than average? 2) shorter than you?
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No.19124
>>19123
If your height is preventing you from having a girlfriend in the first place, you don't really need to worry about having another woman cuck her at this point, do you? And if it's not preventing you from having a girlfriend then probably it's not gonna prevent you from picking up some other girls. I just don't see the point of asking a question like this here as opposed to any other board.
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No.19127
>>19124
Because I tend to see fewer shitposters on here so I consider this board to more accurately represent what regular women think. On other boards I'd expect a dozen responses with 6'0" vs 5'11" memes. Additionally, not all turn-offs are necessarily going to absolutely prevent someone from forming relationships, but some can make it harder than others.
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No.19143
>>19124
I can accept you not wanting to answer or not having a preference, but do you know of a specific board that would be good for this kind of thing?
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No.19582
Asking for a friend. If you're with someone who doesn't want kids but know a friend who wants kids, should something be planned out? D/s relationship with the former and the latter is a clingy ex who's already had two kids from two different men, and is already fine on government aid and what little family support she has.
The goal isn't to start a family, just to know that seed has been planted and put to good use in a woman.
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No.19616
My gf has suggested we try cuckqueaning. She told me she "would understand" if I wanted to sleep around, and said it would be hot. She's very prone to insecurity though, and I suspect she's honestly just in a rough spot (she said she "would understand" if I thought her artwork is shit in pretty much the same way).
How would I go about fleshing out how sincere she is about the cuckquean fetish, and if we were to try it, how would I make it 100% crystal that the other woman is strictly there to spice up OUR sex life?
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No.19617
>>17703
>taking offense at being called a newfag
newfag.
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No.19709
What's the best way to find a vixen while retaining anonymity?
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No.19860
why does this shit turn me on so much goddamn it. I just want to be held down and ridden until mindbreak while my girlfriend is forced to watch
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No.19887
>>19709
I don't think it's possible.
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No.19898
i thought this entire boards was just men pretending to be women
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No.19900
>>17748
>is Asian
>does not approve you doing your natural duty
That's a huge red flag.
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No.19946
>>19898
There is a lot of RPing going on
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No.19947
>>19946
It's a magical board where nobody from either gender is willing or able to believe they're in the minority here.
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No.19948
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No.19955
>>19947
>>19948
We actually had a poll at some point, and the numbers jumped around a lot, but seemed to settle on a roughly even split, if I recall correctly. Fuck me if I can remember what thread it was in, though.
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No.19967
cumdumpsters pls respond kthx
(would you go at it like a pillow? try to do a scissoring? or does grimoire weiss do some sort of weird spirit tentacles cf. last pic?)
The world wonders
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No.19975
>>19947
I've seen enough where this place feels like a female /r9k/. I'm almost disappointed that there's no "dicc or gtfo" going on.
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No.19976
>>19975
Well someone hasn't been here that long then.
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No.19981
>>19976
Probably not. Thankfully I don't cave to such pressure.
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No.20039
Hate to shill myself, but does any grill live in AZ here?
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No.20043
>>19948
Did someone actually drew this or the text was shooped in?
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No.20044
>>20043
That's the original. It's by hehesilly, a girl (?) who does cutesy /pol/-style cartoons.
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No.20046
>>20044
Never thought I'd like art featuring Steven Universe shit. Please more.
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No.20049
>>20044
Based Pearl hates the spics and the micks!
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No.20050
>>19616
I'm probably too late to save this poor bro, but if there's a chance you haven't fucked up yet, don't cuck her. If she's "very prone" to insecurity and saying one thing but doing another, her saying you can sleep around is a fucking trap. Don't fall for it.
If you absolutely positively must stick your dick in some strange, have your gf involved in every step of courting the vixen. Have her meet the vixen casually with you, have frank discussion about the potential relationship, even let her tag along as a third wheel on your dates with the vixen. When it comes time to seal the deal with your vixen, give your gf the option to be as close or as far from the action as she wants; anywhere from on the bed with you and the other woman to across town drinking her insecurities away with strawberry daiquiris.
Assuming you haven't already gone and done it, in which case, please tell us how things went down.
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No.20055
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No.20057
>>20050
>mfw being insecure, jealous and miserable about being cucked is my fetish
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No.20058
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No.20060
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No.20065
>>20060
Yoree Koh is a gook working for the WSJ. She wrote an article for WSJ that convinced YouTube to reverse all donations to St. Jude's a couple of months ago because they were associated with a stream featuring mass shooters like Sam Hyde. The streamers weren't getting any of the money, so the incident was essentially taking away money from a charity for sick kids because the donors weren't politically correct. "Remember Nanking" refers to Japanese soldiers raping and murdering a bunch of Chinese civilians in 1937.
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No.20102
You vs. the girl he tells you not to worry about
Keep this in mind, ladies.
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No.20104
I want to believe women who are into this fetish are all hot. Please confirm my bias.
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No.20121
>>15398
I think this is related so I'm going to post it here. My wife and I, married 2 years with a baby boy, have been discussing a polygynist/polygamist marriage. However, we are not fetishists, we are actually pretty vanilla sexually, my libido is just ravenous. We are heterosexual, so if I found another wife, she would have to be heterosexual as well, but getting off to the marriage dynamic is fine.
We are extremely traditional, philosophical, and I'd even consider us intellectual. My beliefs are very politically incorrect, falling into the vein of white nationalism with a heavy dose of natural spiritualism (Cosmotheism). We are striving to live in a natural, disciplined way to better ourselves and create superior children. We have been considering my marriage to another woman to expand our child-producing ability, to strengthen our family and increase its capability, and to sate my sexual drive as her sex drive is slightly below average. We don't have problems in the bedroom, I've just made some major changes in the last year in regards to diet, health, and exercise and now my testosterone and drive is through the roof.
I guess my question is this. Does this sound appealing to you, femanon of /cuckquean/? Would you consider a family like this? Would even you like to be part of this? Like I said before, this would be a heterosexual marriage on all fronts, where you sign up to be more of a sister-wife rather than a bully or mistress (you would honestly have to be best-friends with my wife, for her sake), but that isn't to say the sexual element isn't there. Rather, the main purpose of this is to create the strongest and biggest family unit possible to bring as many high quality white children into this world as possible, while living a fulfilling and disciplined life closer to the ways of our ancestors, constantly working towards a better future and state of being.
I would like to know your feelings about this, and if positive, would you personally like to discuss it with me? I will be checking this post regularly, but if you would rather go with a private discussion or ask for more details of what we are like, you can email me at racketjacket@hotmail.com. I'd love to hear from you.
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No.20208
I heard that normally a girl wouldn't mind if you had sex with other girls, as long as you were honest about your intentions since the beginning, and assured her that you were commited only to her for a relationship. So should I let girls I date know that I'm not sexually exclusive?
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No.20292
>>20208
IMO that's the natural state for most women, problem is though that a millennia of strict Christian monogamy, two centuries of rampant egalitarian dogma and some decades of full blown feminism cancer not only have managed to severely repress our instincts but have also make it more of a stigma than male cuckoldry due to social engineering's overcompensation. My advice is to tread with extreme caution about the issue.
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No.20293
>>20292
I find something very wholesome about how they included one of Conan's bitches giving bellyrubs to that big kitten.
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No.20367
I’m dating a single mother and she’s been dropping hints that she’d like me to beak in her daughter. Problem is I’ve been banging the daughter longer than I have the mom.
What do?
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No.20368
>>20367
Mission accomplished?
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No.20397
I have somewhat unusual question. What is the guy in your fantasies like?
I am fairly average, perhaps bellow-average in looks, but find it exciting to think that my partner would want to share me with other women.
Is the cuckquean fantasy another way of saying "i'm looking for an attractive partner, but don't mind him being shared with other women", or do run-of-the-mill men have a place in your fantasies?
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No.20398
>>20397
Almost no one fantasizes about below-average people, including you, probably. Not to say you have to look 10/10, if you make the best of what you have and stand out in other ways (are successful, ambitious, etc). If you don't have a girlfriend right now focus on that, don't put the cart before the horse with harem fantasies. Of course there are girls with average boyfriends who want to share them, but this fetish seems rare so don't count on finding one. Just try to become above average.
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No.20399
Would any females like to do some cuckquean ERP with me?
I have a discord, but would be willing to chat on any site of your choice.
My ID is given#5696
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No.20401
>>20398
> Almost no one fantasizes about below-average people
Good point. Should have phrased that better. What I meant to ask is, is do you think the average cuckquean is only attracted to the idea of being cuckquean, if her partner is not super-Chad?
I have no problem getting a girl. I'm average. Average means half the male population. If half the population was unable to reproduce, we're screwed.
The reason why I'm asking is that I find cuckqueaning a very attractive kink, and would like to know more about why it makes you feel the way it makes you feel. Do you find the idea of your partner having sex with other women attractive? Or only if your partner is better than average?
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No.20402
>>20401
No one wants average. Get good or die trying. That is evolution at work. You are doing your entire species a disservice otherwise. If you want a cuckquean, become a man who deserves one. Anything less pollutes the gene pool. Not to say an autist manlet can't manage, Just that he better be a fucking badass in other areas. Could you find a woman willing to date you and share you even if you are exceedingly average? Maybe. But then what's the point?
Be the kind of man women want to share.
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No.20405
>>20402
Ask question about fetish.
Get told that average man, by definition better than 2 billion other man, is a disgrace to humanity.
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No.20406
>>20405
>by definition better than 2 billion other man,
It's not that hard to be better than 2 billion chinks, niggers and sandniggers.
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No.20407
>>20406
Feel free to adjust for your own personal racism. I choose not to do so.
I have serious doubts that when you say "the guy is average" you yourself compare him to the "chinks, niggers and sandniggers, because that would make every man in your country turbo-Chads.
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No.20408
>>20407
It's not racism it's a fact in almost every metric.
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No.20409
>>20408
If that is the case, as a 6'1'' tall, slim, white European, with IQ somewhere somewhere around 125, earning 90th percentile income in western country I immigrated to, I am in the top 99% of human population?
Where do I pick up my white submissive female cuckquean?
Yeah, it does not work that way.
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No.20410
>>20409
You seem to be misunderstanding. Probably because your IQ is not as high as you say it is, but let's assume that it is.
Women are not comparing you to men in Africa. They aren't even comparing you to men in Chicago, unless that's where you live. They're comparing you to other men in your area.
But it gets worse from there. Let's say that your job requires a high IQ, and most of the women you interact with also interact with other men that have your job. Now your IQ isn't so impressive, because other men have it. With a 115 IQ average for your job (one standard deviation above average), you went from being in the top 5% to being in the top 25%. Even higher and the situation gets worse. The same applies to income. It's not a matter of the country you're in, or even the state or city. $100,000 a year in a small town in Texas is very different than $100,000 a year in New York City. Rather, it's where you stand among those women are comparing you against. Specifically: The other men they interact with on a daily basis. If you aren't in the top 20%, you've got problems and you need to put in the effort.
Also, you just told us that you're Lurch like that's a good thing. I could have just left it at that, but I decided to be helpful.
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No.20411
>>20410
No, you seem to be misunderstanding my point. But since you put genuine effort to re-explain my point to me, let me re-mansplain your point to you.
This poster said that being "average" is bad.
>>20402
I counter-argued that, using the same logic you wrote:
>>20410
Would mean that that splitting down the population horizontally across all the different societies, circumstances and value structures, means that half of the population is somehow inadequate. Unwanted.
Then this guy comes in and flips the argument on its head, saying that I'm somehow comparing myself to what he nearly calls "sub-humans":
>>20406
To which I respond that that's not how it works,
>>20409
Precisely because of the reasons you outlined in response to my post.
Circular discussion at its best.
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No.20414
>>20411
>This poster said that being "average" is bad.
I just honestly answered your question. You are not a disgrace because you are average. You are a disgrace because you have resigned yourself as average. According to you, you have every natural advantage in both genetics and culture. You are smart, tall, capable, and in a nation of great opportunity. And yet here you sit, fucking average. With a mentality like that, i don't care if your IQ is 500 and you play in the NBA. A retarded dwarf with gumption has more of a chance than you do if you see yourself that way.
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No.20415
>>20414
Look, attempting to pile on yet more insults won't make me react to your provocation. I asked a question, and got an answer.
Then someone else decided to turn it into a race argument. Good job. That got my reaction.
I know my worth, and choose not to shove it in other's face to prove I'm the top dog. That's the way I am. Hate me for it. Call me names for it. But
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No.20416
>>20415
>I tell Anon to be a tiger and not a kitten
>Anon reacts to my provocation so hard he fails to finish his sentence.
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No.20417
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No.20418
>>20415
>"muh racism"
>"muh logic"
>reddit spacing
lmao, post more subhumans. Kill this reddit goon.
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No.20419
>>20418
It's not Reddit spacing. It's haflchan spacing. Reddit stole.
Not knowing this only shows you're a summerfag.
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No.20420
>>20415
You aren't, though. See:
>>20410
You didn't use this logic. Your logic was that you should be comparing yourself to people in Nigeria. This is exactly the opposite of what I wrote. "Average" is relative to where you are. Someone with 90 IQ in Nigeria is probably a rich government official. Here, they work at 7/11. Even if your IQ was 125 (doubt), it may or may not be impressive compared to the other men that women you try to court can choose from. The women around you aren't trying to date African warlords. They're trying to date someone around them. If you aren't in the top 20% of the men they directly compare you to, you're not even close to "top dog."
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No.20421
>>20420
No. I have, literally, said: "it does not work that that way" here:
>>20409
As in: I literally said that being "top" in all those statistics this racist guy posted here:
>>20408
Does not make me "not average" where I live.
As I said already, we are in agreement. You are preaching to the choir. I won't repeat myself a third time.
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No.20424
>>20411
>to what he nearly calls "sub-humans"
Lemme rectify that then. They ARE sub-humans.
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No.20425
>>20420
>"Average" is relative to where you are
You are in a universe with nearly 4 billion male humans. If you wanted that to be more specific you should at least made an attempt to specify.
At this moment I am the strongest, smartest and richest man where I am. I am alone in my room
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No.20426
saw this and thought of you guys.
Since the drama with tumblr happened and I stopped using it I haven't even run into ingltr or any of you guys so I hope you're doing okay.
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No.20441
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No.20458
Any women living in Arizona right now?
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No.20460
>>20458
I’m reliably informed that a few women were spotted in Arizona just the other day.
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No.20463
>>20460
Thanks, Ave Caesar and get fucked.
Still I meant any women cuckqueans that visit this board live in Arizona?
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No.20484
>>20481
>Not having 4 different fucking ENRAGED women storm the school simtaneously if your kid gets bullied, guaranteeing that something will actually be done about it.
tfw I had 3 aunts who cared about me like my own mom, and genocided anyone who tried to hurt me.
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No.20486
>>20484
Reposting my original vomment here, as it'll be deleted along with the rest of that thread tomorrow, and I don't want your reply to make no sense:
>>20477 (OP)
Also a man, but this is fucking stupid.
>What the fuck will you do if you have kids?
Seriously?
>Not having one vixen wait hand and foot on your pregnant wife, while the other fucks yoir brains out.
>Not having multiple, interlinking households where the wives take turns babysitting each others kids, so that you and each of them has plenty of time for career, hobbies and improving your individual relationships, without letting the kids get neglected as a result.
>Not having your sons & daughters growing up surrounded by several women, with different personality types, and relationships to their father, allowing them to learn about the different kinds of dynamics a healthy relationship can take, and allowing them to enter the dating pool as teens with a level of wisdom other people don't get until their late-20s.
>Not having 4 different fucking ENRAGED women storm the school simtaneously if your kid gets bullied, guaranteeing that something will actually be done about it.
>Not having a combined income from multiple full-time & part-time jobs guaranteeing that your kids will never want for anything.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF YOU HAVE KIDS?
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No.20487
>>20486
Sounds like your reading comprehension is not up to par. So set me re-phrase that for you:
Start a tribe. Like a proper man should.
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No.20488
>>20487
>and I don't want your reply to make no sense
Thanks.
>>20487
Harem > tribe. Fuck off, cuck.
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No.20494
>>20488
I tribe with one husband and many child-bearing women is still a tribe.
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No.20496
What's with the "Dick or GTFO" thing I keep seeing? I thought it was a joke at first, are guys actually supposed to post pics of their dick here or something? If so, how are you guys not flooded in dick pics by now?
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No.20497
>>20496
It's just a response for when someone brings up their gender even when it's irrelevant to what they're saying. Some guys seem to want special attention just for being guys here, much as on other boards women sometimes bring up their gender when it's irrelevant. So it's just our version of 'Tits or GTFO'.
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No.20498
>>20497
Gotcha, so it's ironic then. My apologies, I'm still new around these parts.
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No.20499
>>20498
>namefagging
Please stop posting. Dick or GTFO is used specifically for people like you.
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No.20500
>>20496
>>20497
>>20498
Its meant to trick you into posting a pic of your dick and get banned.
>>20499
This thread is literally has big bold red letters on in OP saying:
> MALE ANONS, POST YOUR QUESTIONS HERE!
So contain your edgyness itt.
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No.20502
>>20494
That isn't a tribe, that's a big, happy family.
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No.20511
>>20502
I know, if only more people understood. This is something I agree with you completely. I'm calling it a tribe to respect the modern meaning of "family" as single breeding pair.
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No.20521
Dear does (you are antlery but you are not stags). I am a 32 year old virgin. Could I ever be your husband and assertive enough to attract other women to sleep with to impress you? What tips would you give? I don't think I would want to bond with women who like usual things, I would only want to marry a wife who likes cartoons and imageboards like I do, but who is also aroused by the idea of being cuckqueaned. I am not much concerned with vixens sharing my secret interests since those would be ephemeral relationships.
How do you get rid of vixens who turn out to be clingy and disrupt the private bond of interests between husband and wife when they are primarily there for sex and their interests are too stereotypical?
How would I even begin to perform an efficient search for wife material sharing my interests? It seems like it would take such a long amount of time that I've never bothered starting. Since I want a wife who is relatively healthy, it is reasonable for her to expect the same, so I've always figured I should just work on that, and then hope by some coincidence to discover someone of shared interests so I can be superstitious and call it fate.
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No.20522
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No.20523
>>20521
Do you remember the advice you've been getting all your life? "Be your self!"
Well, forget that one. You're walking, talking, (well, sitting, posting) proof that what what you've been doing so far won't work to attract a partner. So change something.
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No.20524
>>20521
I'm gonna go on a limb here and assume this isn't a troll question so I will answer as honestly as I can to the best of my abilities. Sorry if I sound blunt or mean at some points.
>I am a 32 year old virgin. Could I ever be your husband and assertive enough to attract other women to sleep with to impress you?
Your virginity has little to nothing to do with your chances of finding a partner unless your potential partner has a thing for virgin men, in which case it would help, in fact it's not easy at all to tell if a man is experienced or not. Not only that, but there's nothing wrong with being a virgin whatsoever, would you have a problem with dating and committing yourself to a woman who's a virgin? If you mentioned it thinking it's pejorative then I hope I've put you at ease.
Now, not every quean nor vixen will be attracted to a man because of their assertiveness. Some might, there's definitely a submissive streak going on in the members of this community, and confident men who know what they want and are reliable are pretty dope, but just be prepared that not every woman will be interested in you based only on those characteristics if you choose to become more like that.
>I don't think I would want to bond with women who like usual things, I would only want to marry a wife who likes cartoons and imageboards like I do, but who is also aroused by the idea of being cuckqueaned.
The pool of potential partners who'll share all these interests is very very shallow. With regards to the fellas that typically lurk this board I find that more often than not they want a woman who'll willingly be cucked by them, instead of wanting just a partner they can build a relationship with. This leads me to believe that what sadly a lot of people are interested in is the fetish, and you can't focus on just looking to fulfill this fetish otherwise you'll be dehumanizing real life people.
I think we all should look for people we like, get to know them and get closer and intimate, if that person happens to be a cuckquean then great! But if not… what's wrong about that?
If you were dating this girl you REALLY loved, and she broke it to you that she has a clown fetish and she really really really wants you to dress up as a clown for her, and that happens to not be your thing, should she dump you? This is a lovely kink we all share, but ut shouldn't be more important than stable relationships.
That being said, if being a cuckquean isn't the biggest requirement for you to marry a girl then there are plenty of women who like cartoons, anime and an ever growing number who post in imageboards. Just be wary of attentionwhores who give femanons a bad name. Those ones are no bueno.
>How do you get rid of vixens who turn out to be clingy and disrupt the private bond of interests between husband and wife when they are primarily there for sex and their interests are too stereotypical?
If they're a reasonable adult, this should all be easily resolved through a discussion where the couple/man/cuck tell the vixen that they want to break the arrangement off. But it would be also pretty rude and shitty for two nerds to tell another person that they are no longer useful for them and should fuck off. Use some tact should this scenario ever happen.
>How would I even begin to perform an efficient search for wife material sharing my interests?
>It seems like it would take such a long amount of time that I've never bothered starting.
You said it right there, you never even bothered starting. I assume because you don't know where? Honest advice is to do like >>20522 said. Helps build confidence in men, you'll be in better shape after a while, lotta girls drool over nice trained bodies, and it's never a negative to be able to defend yourself in a fight or protect your cuckquean and vixen from home invaders/street thugs. But what you should really be focusing on is just finding a partner, doing your own thing, having hobbies, being worthwhile of a conversation, etc. If you happen to find a girl who likes you and wants a relationship, that's great! If you happen to find a girl who wants a relationship with you, shares your interests and wants to see you balls deep inside other girls that's just as good!
Date for the sake of finding a partner who you'll be able to confide, trust, love and get loved back for life. Don't date for the sake of fulfilling a fetish you might have.
I hope that helps anon!
Ugh, also adding… if being a virgin is a big deal to you and it stresses you out that girls will smell your inexperience from a mile away… Go have sex with a clean hooker, that might help calm your nerves. But know that there are plenty of virgin women who want to marry virgin men, and while you could lie to them since it's hard to detect male virginity, starting a relationship based on a lie is a huge asshole move and could end up biting you in the ass.
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No.20538
>>20511
>respect the modern meaning
lol, psyop that shit and change the modern meaning.
>>20521
>attract other women to sleep with to impress you
>marry a wife who likes cartoons and imageboards like I do
>hope by some coincidence to discover someone
This is some bored quean fucking with us, no one is this retarded.
>>20524
>Your virginity has little to nothing to do with your chances of finding a partner
Everyone knows you have to be born as a non-virgin to get laid.
>dress up as a clown for her
>This is a lovely kink we all share
Speak for yourself there. Though to be fair, I would want to try weird clown sex at least once.
>there are plenty of women who like cartoons, anime and an ever growing number who post in imageboards
It's such deep experience to share the things you love with someone and give them something fun and cool and new that they didn't previously know about, instead of being ashamed of revealing your hobbies and asking for a person who's a pre-packed combination of all your favourite shit. There's some important shit you must screen a chick for, but shallow nonsense like whether she plays the same toys or watches the same cartoons as you do? Nah…
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No.20547
>>20538
>Everyone knows you have to be born as a non-virgin to get laid.
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here, I was telling the anon that his virginity shouldn't be something he should worry about.
>It's such deep experience to share the things you love with someone and give them something fun and cool and new that they didn't previously know about, instead of being ashamed of revealing your hobbies and asking for a person who's a pre-packed combination of all your favourite shit. There's some important shit you must screen a chick for, but shallow nonsense like whether she plays the same toys or watches the same cartoons as you do? Nah…
Also no clue what you're going with here, think you might've misread my whole post where I specifically told the anon he should do his own thing, have hobbies and try to find like-minded people.
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No.20552
>>20547
>I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here,
It's a joke, silly.
>Also no clue what you're going with here
If I was into clown sex, and clown sex was really cool, I would share this cool thing with a girl who doesn't know about it, rather than trying to find a girl who already does. A relationship where you grow together is more fun than remaining complacent.
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No.20554
Some…most Quean girls said they don't want to fuck men other than their significant other while their significant other can fuck other women.
…Why?
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No.20556
Where's all the Star Vs Forces cuck content I keep hearing about? I know you have writefags on here, where are you hiding all the stories?
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No.20557
>>20556
I shouldn't have to explain this, but just click the 'catalog' link, type Ctrl+F 'star vs' and read the 5 existing svtfoe cuckquean threads.
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No.20559
>>20554
>Why do people like -thing-? I just don't see the appeal.
It's a mystery, anon. The world might never know.
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No.20560
>>15398
I know most people won't care; but a sizeable aspect of why I like all this is because I'm more than a little paranoid and the idea of finding someone/s to love and share a life with and build a big happy family with is just so incredibly appealing to me. I mean there's just so many horror stories out there in general but at the same time you can still read about people who managed live the dream and stay in love for 50+ years so I try not to lose hope
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No.20576
Do cuckqueans have a problem with beta men getting sex bots?
Do cuckqueans have a problem if other couples are strictly monogamous?
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No.20577
>>20576
That is a cute Automaton. I’d say I minded the civilisation-dooming part, except it’s probably already doomed, so I hope that the waifubots make for comforting companions. As for monogamy, of course we don’t mind it. If there were too many cuckqueans all the vixens would dry up, and male cuckolds are not worth considering.
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No.20588
>>20576
>Do cuckqueans have a problem with beta men getting sex bots?
I don't see how is that MY problem even if my bf/husband was beta.
>Do cuckqueans have a problem if other couples are strictly monogamous?
It's completely unnatural but as long as it's "tradition" I'm not going to be vocal about it.
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No.20594
I'd like to know, if I may ask, what are the queans like in their non-internet life?
Where do you spend your free time? What do you enjoy? Where are you going, when the work is done?
All the online talk is about the king itself, but not about who are the women who enjoy it. So my question is, who are you?
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No.20595
>>20594
>non-internet life?
Huh?…
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No.20613
>>20594
>non-internet life
Reality is just a weird place people go to to bring more fun things for us to look at on the internet.
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No.20618
>>20595
>>20613
Pretty much this. My family and fr-… high school associates, constantly point out that I just use the whole trad housewife thing as an excuse to avoid social interaction and be a lazy piece of shit and judging from the condition of our household for the most part they are right.
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No.20619
>>20594
I'm boring.
>work at a school in a non-teaching position
>come home after work and clean a little, eat if I remember, and read online
>watch tv for under 3 hours a week unless my boyfriend wants me to watch something with him
>read books in my free time at work
>go to the gym 3 times a week (alone on Tuesdays and Thursdays, with bf on Saturdays)
The only interesting part of my life is what happens in the bedroom.
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No.20620
>>20619
Assuming all of you are weebs/fujoshits, if your man isn't a weeaboo himself how does he react to your brand 'tism?
Out of the queans that aren't currently single how many of you are hikis/neets/housewives and how does your significant half think about it? what does his family and your family think about it?
Assuming you try to pass the housewife image does your social circle view you as an ultra-conservative and archaic about it? How do they react to your fetish if they know?
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No.20621
>>20620
I'm really only an entry-level weeaboo. I've heard of a lot of anime in passing but only watched a few. He's more into it than I am. I don't have much of a social circle but they seem to think I'm a bit of an ice queen so I assume they just think I'm a prude, too. He fucked me bareback three times yesterday but I think most people in my life kind of assume I'm more or less asexual.
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No.20626
>>20621
>I'm really only an entry-level weeaboo.
How did you find the board?
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No.20627
>>20626
I use other boards on the site to start with and one day I went looking for boards that relate to my kinks.
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No.20633
>>20620
>hikis/neets/housewives
I fucking wish.
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No.20635
>>20633
Yeah, good luck with it. I'm sure plenty of girls would love to be. (((Feminism))) took their choice away.
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No.20642
>>20633
You and me both. I have a nice job but I still hate having to wake up early and be there. I'd love to sleep in and clean and cook for him and maybe clean her off of him when he gets home.
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No.20644
but what about the children?
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No.20651
>>20642
> I'd love to sleep in
> housewife
As a cis person with Y chromosome, I find the idea of having someone take care of our children and home quite attractive.
What I don't find attractive is the modern, borderline role play, version of "housewife".
No, you are not here to sleep in.
No, you are not here to maybe cook.
No, you are not here to push out 2.1 kids, and spend the rest of life in front of TV.
That's now what being a housewife is.
/rant
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No.20653
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No.20654
>>20651
To be fair, being a housewife now is not nearly comparable to being one 50 years ago. Specially if your husband can provide commodities.
Without a washing machine laundry certainly takes a whole fucking time, without a dryer you need to be careful wih the sun and stuff, with a shit kitchen and shit kitchen tools you'll spend way more time there unlike, say, induction kitches, electric stoves, and chances are the food will also taste better if you know how to use them. There are plenty of ways for making your wife's life as a housewife way better and simpler.
I don't think that's a bad thing, specially if you get home to see her with a big smile, willing to suck your cock after you probably were fucking another woman some hours before, so you have your dinner ready, your clothes ready and a wife ready to make you happy, because you make her happy.
Without all that she'd always be tired as fuck unwilling to fuck you for understandable reasons. Of course, if you can't provide, I'd say you already failed. How do you expect to have your own harem if you can't even keep your vixen happy?
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No.20657
>>20651
I just want to sleep until the sun is already out more than twice a week.
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No.20660
>>20651
> in front of TV.
My time machine works! We're back at the 80's!
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No.20661
>>20651
Don't you think you might be overestimating a housewive's workload a bit, anon? I have friends with above-replacement number of children and if well disciplined they still don't make enough of a ruckus to keep someone occupied for 16 hours.
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No.20662
>>20651
If you deprive tour quean from proper rest she'll end up wrinkled and ugly to the point no amount of fresh young vixens will make her presence tolerable..
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No.20664
>>20654
>>20661
That is my point entirely. I'm not saying being housewife is wrong. I'm saying I am not too happy with me doing all the work, in exchange of some stay-at-home pussy.
In other words, in all today's housewife fantasy I do not hear:
> "I'll take care of the home as diligently, as my man works."
Instead I keep hearing:
> "I want my man to work 8 hours a day and make money, so I can laze around and maybe cook or something if I feel like it. And he should be damn happy he has a rested pussy waiting for him at home and I allow him to fuck whoever he wants".
I mean, can do the later even without having to feed a homebody.
If that is not you, the I apologize for sounding too generalizing.
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No.20669
>>20664
> I'm saying I am not too happy with me doing all the work,
I hope I'm misunderstanding that statement.
If in a household one's working to provide for the expenses and his stay at home roomate, regardless of gender or sexual relationship between the two, is not doing the housechores then the worker is clearly exploited and part of it is his fault for being a beta pushover and not confronting his roomate for this shit, a gamma, if his roommate is a girl, and a complete omega if it's a female sexual partner. They only situation where this could be quasi-excusable would be if the stay at home partner owned the house while not being in a sexual/romantic relationship with the provider.
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No.20670
>>20664
>>20669
Also I hope you don't imply that you are okay with your gf/wife working outside. That's practically encouraging her to be a "strong, independent wymin that needs no man", exposing her to other men and an indirect invitation to be cucked.
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No.20671
>>20664
You seem to be under the misconception of
More work = Better
Working like a donkey doesn't make you better at your job, or means it's a better job. There are good paying jobs that require you to work less than 8 hours, and even 8 hours is not that bad.
>>20669
>>20670
Anon is clearly a faggot.
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No.20672
>>20671
>Anon is clearly a faggot.
Still preferable than the cuckold orbiter of a "career"-woman..
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No.20675
>>20669
That is my point exactly. Consider my post standing up to an exploitation fantasy.
>>20671
Since we are accusing each other of having misconceptions, you seem to have a misconception that absolute majority of population can get away with anything less than full-time job to sustain themselves and their family.
Sure, I would be happy to aim for 4-hour work week situation, but I won't bet my future on that.
8 hours being "not that bad" is no excuse for the other partner claiming half of the reward for those 8 hours, and doing not even a fraction of that taking care of the home.
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No.20680
There's plenty of work in the home if you have land. Even a tiny cottager plot used to have vegetable and spice gardens, chickens, pigs, maybe a cow or goat or something a little more exotic like bees or rabbits. Even if you weren't doing a cottage industry you'd still mend, darn, jar, pickle, preserve, smoke, mill, salt, bake, etc. etc. etc. People used to be much more self sufficient. Of course this meant they weren't buying, that is consuming, so much in the general economy. They made many of the things they needed for themselves. If things broke they fixed them instead of buying a new one. Can't have that. Much better for everyone to rent condos or apartments and work for money which they can use to buy a constant stream of processed mass market consumer goods. If some bitch stays home, puts on her homemade clothes, bakes a loaf of bread, and spreads her own fucking strawberry jam on it how the fuck can Unilever and Archer Daniels Midland make any money off of that? How the fuck can we tax it!?
Welcome to the future.
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No.20682
>>20680
The industrialization rendered all this to the realm of hobby.
Gather-round children, I'm gonna tell you a story.
I grew up in situation were we visited my grandparents house every weekend and holiday when I was growing up. Don't ask. It's a thing in some parts of the world.
They had cows, sheep, goats, pigs, rabbits, turkey, chicken, bees and assortment of cats, dogs and pigeons. Yes, keeping pigeons is a thing. As well as a sizeable vegetable garden.
They were more than self-sufficient on the basics. Every year they were in surplus of potato, eggs, meat and milk. But over time the got rid of it all.
Their life consisted of working 6 a.m.-3 p.m. at the local industrial farm. 8 hour work day. Lunch break is not included.
Then they came home, and granddad went to tend to the house. There was always something to fix. My grandma went to tend the animals (in the morning too), the garden and then prepared meals for the night and the next day. They did this till dinner time at 7 p.m. Watched news, washed up and went to bed at 8:30 p.m.
Their jobs aside, they spent about 4 hours a day keeping their house, animals and garden. And they gave most of it all up. One by one the stuff they were keeping was just not worth the hassle. Raising cattle (cows / sheep / pigs) is annoying as fuck, and labor intensive to boot.
And once nobody's willing to buy them from you for profit, because you're keeping them in "amateur" conditions (i.e. the normal conditions of 30 years prior), they are useless. You will never eat enough meat to justify keeping herd of animals. It's go hard nigger, or go home nigger, when it comes to modern health standards. Bye bye cows and sheep.
1/?
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No.20683
>>20682
Next was the goat. Goats are assholes. To get milk, you need to milk it. Twice a way, every day. That's a lot of work for a jug of milk that makes your cereal (not to mention your baking, if you're babushka), smell like goat. Once you can buy cheap industrially produced cow milk from store, it's bye bye goat.
Pig was kept for a while longer. There was just enough leftovers from "human's table", and feed potatoes from the garden to feed it "for free", so the only apparent cost is buying a piglet. And there are some pork specialty foods that you can only really make at home (NSFL: Google "zabijacka").
But still, when you realize that a single slaughter takes an entire day worth of work, you need to hire a butcher (no, he won't work for food and drink, but he sure as shit will expect to be fed and "watered" throughout the day), you then you need to run a freezer for a year, to keep the "product". On top of that, add all the work you had to do (manually) to harvest all those "free" potatoes you're feeding your "free" pig, suddenly it's not such a great deal either. So bye bye pig. The last home "zabijacka" we did was by buying a half of a pig from local farm, and having the butcher prepare that. The "zabijacka" specialties tasted all the same. Then all those "specialties" started appearing in dedicated butchers shops, and "zabijacka" went the way of folklore.
Then there was poultry. Chicken are assholes. They will eat everything. And I mean everything. They will turn your garden into a chicken shit covered mud patch, if you don't keep them in a pen, disregard how much you feed them. They prefer grass. Not to mention that what goes in, must go out. And you can really use the "out" as fertilizer, because it is too acidic. But that being said, even till her death, my grandma kept about 20 or so chicken. And till her death we were in surplus of eggs. Still, I'm not sure how many traditional queans would like to get up with the sunrise, to let the chicken out, collect eggs and feed them, and the do the same just before it gets dark. Every, single, day. Just to get a "free" carton of eggs every day. Yeah, I'm not even calculating the fact you need to buy the feed.
Turkeys are even bigger assholes. Aggressive, and surprisingly tough to kill. My grandma tried raising them only once. It took me and my dad to wrestle it to the ground, so he could shoot it in the head with his 9mm (which is illegal btw). That was the only time I wrestled an animal with intent to kill, and was not sure if I'm winning for better part of it. It's not as fun as it sounds. She stuck to her chicken.
And finally, there were the rabbits. Rabbits are kept in an enclosed box, otherwise they get territorial and kill each other. And by kill each other I mean shred to pieces and eat the young. Bet you didn't know that. So you need to hand-deliver food to them. Ideally twice a day. Every day. To get about two to three chickens worth of meat. That's what, $10 gross yield per rabbit? Oh yea, did I mention you need fresh grass or hay, and a place to keep the hay year round, to keep rabbits? But hey, I guess my gran liked the exercise of cutting grass (with scythe), drying hay (flip cut grass twice a day for a week or so), storing hay (pull up under barn roof), and delivering the hay by hand to her rabbits, twice a day, every day, for years. Not to mention killing, skinning and chopping them up. All for the glorious feeling of producing $3 worth of meat.
Finally, the bees were entirely my granddad's thing. I'm not sure how he convinced my grandma to keep them all these years, be they were gone the year he passed away. Along with their waponized little assholes.
So, in the end, my grandma stuck to her rabbits, chicken and garden. And for the most part, I think she did it to keep a daily routine. Because the product does not justify the time and effort you need to put in to get it, over store bought.
The same goes for any kind of gardening you want to do yourself. Admittedly, there are a few specialty things you can grow yourself, mostly spices and highly-perishable items, but the truth is, keeping them will hardly take your entire day. My grandma did that as after-work chores. You are attempting to claim it's the equivalent of full-time job, and reason to be a stay-at-home person.
Oh yeah, and if you're wondering about the pigeons, my granddad kept a few core breading pairs for exhibitions, and let the cull fly. They tended to stick around, even while they were free. So he had a pigeon coot they could use, for the small small price of going in a few times a year, and collecting a few squabs. Because squabs are fucking delicious. I miss squabs.
2/2
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No.20684
>>20675
>trying to rationally argue with a feminist male cuck
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No.20685
>>20680
Based and redpilled post.
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No.20686
>>20682
>>20683
The solution to the "problems" you mentioned is pretty simple, my Slav friend. Have the woman cover the agrarian activities that provide the household with primary production and self-sustenance while the man is being out providing his trained specialized craft to provide jew golds for the extra commodities that the household can't itself produce.
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No.20688
>>20675
>you seem to have a misconception that absolute majority of population can get away with anything less than full-time job to sustain themselves and their family
In which case you won't be able to sustain more than one woman or provide her with commodities. At that point you are already failling as a man if you can only provide for yourself, which is ok, but don't expect with any woman to be ok with that. And even then, if they are ok with it, chances are that she is going to be slaved in house since you won't be even able to provide for a washing machine.
>and doing not even a fraction of that taking care of the home.
Again, you're under the misconception of more work = better. Just because your job is shit doesn't mean hers will be less tough regardless of how much it lasts, specially if you don't provide commodities. Want her to spend 4+ hours in the kitchen? Don't buy her kitchen tools, that sure will be fun.
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No.20689
>>20688
> How does working full time to provide for family (no matter how big)
Suddenly turn into:
Lol, if you can't do that working 4 hours a day, you can't provide for anyone and you fail.
You are not very good at building straw-men arguments.
I expect the same commitment to our relationship as I have. Using the best tools for the job is part of that. The fact I can provide my wife with all the modern amenities is not reason for her to slack off the rest of the working day. Find something to do.
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No.20690
>>15860
Wow, i cant belive there is someone with a healthy mindset in here.
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No.20691
>>20689
And you're not very good at building a family.
>The fact I can provide my wife with all the modern amenities is not reason for her to slack off the rest of the working day
But she isn't. When you are done with your job you are done, she is using all the stuff you provide her with to do her job better and faster, which leaves her with free time. How is that slacking off?
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No.20692
>>20691
It seems we have fairly fundamental differences in what we perceive as "fair" in partnership. One party putting in all the effort, and the other exploiting it to gain free time is not free.
Just out of curiosity, if I paid for a maid, to do all the chores, would that make it justifiable in your mind for the woman to do nothing at all day for the rest of her life? Just because I provided that by working full 8 hour day?
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No.20693
>>20692
You seem to think that "fair" means "equal" which isn't always the case. In the end, you do get free time when you get home to find your dinner and probably next day breakfast too, you wouldn't need to clean anything because everything already is, so out of those 8 hours, the moment you enter your house are completely free for you, thanks to your wife, regardless of how many hours it took her to do so, as long as she properly do it.
And here is the thing, even in your weekends, she still has to cook for you and probably clean, so unlike your 8 hours job, she won't have free weekends like you do.
Just because she manages to finish her work early because of whatever reason doesn't mean she doesn't work like you do, faggot.
>would that make it justifiable in your mind for the woman to do nothing at all day for the rest of her life?
If she finishes all her work, yes. You are the one who decides how much to pay her for it, after all. If she asks too much to clean an small apartment with all the stuff you provide to make her job easier, then you are to blame for paying so much. Likewise, you are the one who decides if having a wife in the same condition is worth it or not, and personally, it isn't just about the money.
I guess you could also fuck the maid, but it isn't the same as having a family.
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No.20694
>>20692
>It seems we have fairly fundamental differences in what we perceive as "fair" in partnership.
Deal with it, hun. The sexes aren't equal.
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No.20696
>>20693
>>20694
None of that makes it even a remotely good deal for me. I already take care of my chores. I takes maybe an hour a day on top of my 8 hours of work.
Getting rid of that is by any stretch of the imagination worth giving away half of my income.
No amount of insults or shaming will convince me otherwise, hun.
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No.20699
>>20696
>No amount of insults or shaming will convince me otherwise, hun.
It's not shaming, just pointing out that if you do not have any intention to procreate so that you can keep your shekels for vapid hedonism then there's no point to bother posting in the first place.
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No.20700
>>20699
> you do not have any intention to procreate
Refusal to support your exploitative terms is not "not having any intention to procreate".
> It's not shaming
> vapid hedonism
Okay.
> there's no point to bother posting in the first place
Your attempt at gate keeping has been noted.
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No.20701
>>20700
Good luck procreating to having an slave. Nobody would agree with your terms because they are retarded, and if you plan to keep them going, you are a genetic dead end.
>Vapid hedonism
This is not exactly an insult if this is what you are into, since you clearly care more about your shekels than actual family stability or even the happiness of your women.
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No.20702
I think you're all missing the primary point of the stay at home wife. Of course it's going to seem like an odd deal if you're childless. Your wife is supposed to stay home so that she can take care of the children of her husband and his girlfriend.
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No.20703
>>20700
>> It's not shaming
>> vapid hedonism
>Okay.
Okay then… what do you do with the money you hoard? Better be using them for stockpiling guns for DotR.
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No.20704
>>20702
True, motherhood is full time job.
This reminds me of that faggot that always asked about women breast size
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No.20705
>>20704
Do big boobs produce more milk?
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No.20706
>>20701
> Nobody would agree with your terms
What on earth are you talking about? Those are pretty standard terms that apply to absolute majority of marriages.
But hey, what can I expect from a discussion with someone who needs to append an insult to each of their sentences, to support their point.
> This is not exactly an insult if this is what you are into
Putting aside the fact I am not, even if I was "into it", you wouldn't tell a gay man to go gobble some dicks and think it is polite recourse.
>>20702
This entire discussion started with this post:
>>20651
If your looking after family takes only a few hours each day, it is not by any stretch of the imagination an equivalent of full time work.
Sure, if you just had a baby, or 5, you need to stay at home. That's what I've been saving all those "shekels" for. But once the last kid leaves for school, what will you do at home exactly? If it's along the lines of "sleep in" like in the post I reacted to, we're gonna have this exact discussion we're having.
>>20703
Saving them to support a wife that is willing to put in the same amount of effort as I do.
This was never about being stingy or wanting to keep my "shekels" into the grave. This discussion thread was about calling out a lazy woman, trying to exploit me under the guise of homemaking.
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No.20710
>>20706
>Saving them to support a wife that is willing to put in the same amount of effort as I do.
By doing what? Jumping hoops all day just to be more tired than you?
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No.20711
>>20706
>you wouldn't tell a gay man to go gobble some dicks and think it is polite recourse.
Politeness is subjective. Cocksucking is a fact.
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No.20712
>>20706
>>>20706
>if X or Y, you need to stay at home
>if
C U C K
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No.20713
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No.20714
>>20710
> just to be more tired than you
I don't think you understand the meaning of "same amount of effort".
Or maybe you do, and you're just grasping at straws to make insults out of, now that you have no other valid arguments.
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No.20715
>>20714
>I don't think you understand the meaning of "same amount of effort".
Please enlighten us.
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No.20716
>>20714
You were already told that housekeeping can be done perfectly without it having to be tiresome or time consuming, and that's an effort done by her every day, unlike your wagecuck job.
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No.20717
>>20716
And you were told precisely why that is not an excuse to slack around and call yourself a "Housewife", while I work my ass off to provide the best for my children.
I have no interest in circular argument, so either go re-read what was already written, and come up with something better than rudimentary insult as a response, or this discussion has run its course.
>>20715
You know what, no. Not with that attitude. If you don't know what it means to be a housewife, keep up your 1 hour a day LARP. I'm sure as long as you have a vagina, some simp will fall for it, and then you'll be his problem. Then we're both be happy.
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No.20718
>>20717
This is going circles. Finishing your job early and having free time is not slacking around, which is why anon proceeded to tell you what else do you want from her, to jumping hoops until you get home so she can be tired?
You still haven't said a single thing she can do once she finishes her housewife work, faggot.
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No.20719
>>20717
>You know what, no. Not with that attitude
<Prompted to say what he considers "the same amount of effort"
<I-I refuse to say it because you're being mean!
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No.20721
>>20719
He's trying to say that he wants his wife subjected to glorified lite-prostitution they call "career" for a handful of extra shekels.
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No.20722
>>20719
Well, maybe if I put it as a meme you'll get it.
Pic related.
>>20721
What a lovely straw-man. But no. What I'm trying to say is that I don't want a lazy wife who thinks plopping out a few kids means she can laze around the apartment her whole life.
>>20718
> This is going circles.
Yes, that's precisely why I told you I'm out of this convo.
> which is why anon proceeded to tell you what else do you want from her
Which is why I addressed that one as well. I mean, do you seriously want me to re-typ the entire discussion?
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No.20724
I’m not sure why this turned into such a winding argument. I’ve seen ornamental wives and they disgust me because they’re usually vapid hateful hothouse whores on the inside who end up cheating anyway. I feel sorry for their husbands. If I’m going to stay at home and do the housewife thing I’d prefer to pull my weight as much as that role allows me to do. There’s no good way to quantify this (hence the autism perhaps?) but the fundamentals are there. If my husband is going to be the sole breadwinner then I’m going to do useful things on the home front too. There’s lots of stuff for a smart housewife to do aside from chores and child-rearing, especially since modern conveniences have made the chores much less time-consuming. I don’t have to have a career to be useful and hard-working. I mean, this is all just the basics of a relationship. Has nothing to do with cuckqueaning.
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No.20725
>>20724
Thank you. I was starting to lose hope.
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No.20726
>you're a cuck because your waif goes to work
>you're a cuck because you're the one who goes to work
I don't understand what this gay argument is about. Different people have their own preferences. Having said that, being married to a career woman who you never see, and she comes home stressed and tired would be lame as fuck.
>tfw no neet cuckquean waif
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No.20727
>>20726
>not married to a hot office lady while you be a good househusband and fuck her onto next day
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No.20728
>>20722
>Which is why I addressed that one as well
Yeah, making your wife jumping in place while she waits for you is probably not a good idea.
>>20724
>There’s no good way to quantify this (hence the autism perhaps?) but the fundamentals are there
Yes, but once you run out of things to do in the house, it is a bad thing that you can just sit down and relax? Or you just need to keep doing needless stuff until your husband gets home? There's so much you can do at home, let's say that you actually go and try to learn a new language for whatever reason, but then what?
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No.20729
>>20727
You are causing feelings of strife within me. Having a big tiddy mommie gf who brings you treats and chicken tendies at the end of the day would be comfy as fuck, but as much as I love /gfd/, I don't think I can ever put myself in a place where I have to depend on someone else for anything, especially money. The only way this arrangement could work is if I had my own business at home.
Also, sauce?
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No.20730
>>20728
> it is a bad thing that you can just sit down and relax
Nope. It's a good idea to sit down and relax. It's the scope of reaxing we seem to disagree on. If your chores are done in two hours, which unless you're taking care of newborn or a whole bunch of children, they will be. Then relaxing the rest of the day off is just excessive laziness.
> There's so much you can do at home.
Agree. I'm not telling you what to do with your life, but the idea behind all this fancy tech we have today is so you can go do something else. Ideally more important, or more fun. I mean, is there nothing else you want to do in life, that could benefit your children? Don't you want the best for them? I'm not saying you need to pick on a full-time job, but if you have the time, is there something you would want to do at least part time? Study for a pediatrician. Open a day-care, anything? Or is it TV and Internet for 40 years for you?
Citing this fella over here:
>>20726
“The mystery of human existence lies not in just staying alive, but in finding something to live for.”
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No.20731
>>20730
Pursuing knowledge for the sake of knowledge is nice, but that can be considered "a hobby", and considering turbo sperg, that might as well be "slacking off" as well.
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No.20732
>>20731
When I say study for a pediatrician, I mean put forward an effort to eventually become a pediatrician.
Let me know if any other parts of that post confused. you.
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No.20733
>>20732
See >>20726
Have fun with you career whore, cuck.
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No.20734
>>20733
> Suggest maybe taking something she might be interested in as a side gig, once kids leave the house and go into school.
> Career whore.
I'm starting to understands your particular delusion.
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No.20738
>>20734
>Letting your woman open herself to be an strong and independent woman
Yeah, you are cancer.
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No.20742
>>20722
>plopping out a few kids
>can laze around the apartment her whole life
Do you have any concept of how kids work? If by "few" you mean more than two then I really doubt she would any time even for shitposting unless if she wanted to face criminal neglect charges.
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No.20743
>>20727
2D =/= 3D anon
Don't fall for nippon government's propaganda. Salarywomen don't love you and view househusbands as convenience at best and as utter NEET trash on average.
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No.20744
>>20729
Since you asked nicely, Wife Who Wants to be Loved
https://exhentai.org/g/1085964/2236a63f98/
It's not /gfd/ or role reversal in bed, more like vanilla househusband. He bounds her with devices, he tells her we should fuck, she doesn't want to wake up the baby so she doesn't scream. He is the 'man of the house', just that man tells his woman to work and come home to intense fuck.
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No.20745
>>20743
The best relationship you can have with a woman as a male is as a Mother, or a Slave. Please prove me wrong if you can nya~
https://meguca.org/nya/
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No.20746
>>20745
I say this because Motherhood and maybe an older-sister or Aunt is the only relationship where a female will love a male 'weaker'/poorer than them. Otherwise the male always needs to be in a 'superior' position relative to the female for her to get wet. Again, prove me wrong if you can nya~
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No.20749
>>20731
I understand your point. Nobody's arguing that having a very young baby is hard work. That's why I said you need to stay at home, if you've recently had a baby. There is no discussion on that.
But look at it from another perspective.
Let's say you've been a good girl, and you're on your 10th child, like a proper mother should be. And for sake of an argument, the births are spaced out by 2 years (and even that is kinda pushing it). That means You'll never be taking care of more than 2-3 babies at a time, since they have the fortunate tendency to leave for education at around age 4-6.
So, let's say you're done creating life, and our youngest is 6, leaving for the first day of school.
You wake them up. Prep lunches, drive them all to school in a mini-van.
Come home, load dish-washer, load washer / drier, mop the floors.
That's what? 2-3 hours?
In the afternoon you pick them up from school and cook dinner. That's 2 hours. Because yes indeed, our kids will have an hour long commute and you cook complex meal every night. That's how things work IRL.
So we're at grand total of 5 hours worst case scenario. And that includes things that you may not be doing every day.
Now, here's the question. You could say: "but sempai, how about other things that kid's need? Like studying? Playing? Socialization? Tours?" And you'd be right!
But the thing is, I want to spend some time with my kids too! Doing just those things. Those are not chores. Those are the nice things about having kids, so no bueno on counting that as "chores".
Another thing is that, if you want to do everything for your kids till they leave the house, you'll cripple them in life. They should help with house chores as they grow older, alleviating a chunk of your chores, like cleaning the house, or doing dishes and laundry. If you're on your 10th child, you have plenty helping hands around.
Not to mention that in this 10 child - 2 year gap scenario, and follow a rule that you have a kid every 2 years, that means if the youngest is 6, the oldest is ~26, and already flown the house.
So, you started having babies at 20, had 10 of them. Now you're 46 and they're all gone to various schools. You still have 20 years till retirement. What do you do? Well, how about putting all that skill you've learned to good use, and open a daycare, write a book, or do something else interesting and useful.
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No.20750
>>20744
Thanks.
>>20746
>the only relationship where a female will love a male 'weaker'/poorer than them
That's because it's a relationship that's founded on unconditional love. With your spouse, it's not going to be unconditional, though it won't necessarily mean you have to be "superior" in some case, eg: like in /gfd/.
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No.20755
>>20750
I would say true femdom is extremely rare outside of fantasy or defined hierarchal relationships, and then it's usually not sexual. Note that a woman trying to domesticate a 'superior' man is not femdom. I would also say that even parental love is not unconditional, but it's the closest thing to unconditional love that can exist… some families more than others nya~
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No.20756
>>20745
>/nya/
That board seems very homosexual. At least you’re being honest and staying in the male containment thread.
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No.20757
>>20756
lol I post here because no other thread interested me. I couldn't give a damn about 'honesty.' As for being homosexual, yes the board does have a Yuri theme, but bisexual is a more correct characterisation. Hell, most /cuckqueans/ are bisexual if they aren't just into humiliation nya~
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No.20758
>>20756
Also, caring about sex/gender on an anon image board = whew. Should I ask for tits, clits, or dicks nya?
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No.20760
>>20757
>>20758
We care because /cuckquean/ is gender-fundamentalist and prohibits male homosexual discussion and content, meaning that content about men who wish to be acknowledged as woman is not welcome here. That other board registers as one of male homosexuals who like /pretend/ing, so shilling it here seems to be of very little relevance.
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No.20763
>>20760
>pretend
Umm… sweetie, it's 2019? If she wants to identify as a bisexual cat person, then it's HER choice, who are you tell others how to live and who to love?
>>20757
It's okay cutie, don't listen to that fucking bigot incel, keep being who you are and doing what you love. Nice to run into you again! Thanks.
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No.20764
>>20763
Just because you identify as a catgirl doen't mean anyone will want to fuck you.
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No.20765
>>20763
I think that's a picture of a wolf girl.
>>20764
Well not *just* because of that.
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No.20794
>wife wants me to cuck her
>despite being a 30 year old boomer, still have no idea how to pick up women
H-help?
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No.20795
>>20794
Make a tinder profile along her and go from there.
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No.20796
>>20795
Actually tried Tinder for a while. Not much luck; a few chats and then got ghosted.
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No.20798
>>20794
How did you pick up your wife?
Do you lift? If you don’t lift then start lifting and keep lifting. It’s a good idea for more reasons than just picking up. The rest is charisma and experience; “Models: Attract Women Through Honesty” is a good beginner’s guide.
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No.20801
>>20798
I know you're memeing, but I honestly don't know how my wife and I got together. We met through a mutual friend and she pursued me.
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No.20808
Just found out my gf of several years gets fucking S O A K E D when I describe fucking other girls.
There have been subtle hints in the past that made me wonder, but last night during sex she wandered into more specific territory, asking me questions like:
-how many girls have i had sex with before we met
-How many did I sperm up with no protection (a disgraceful amount)
-Did I ever miss those days
-Asking me to be detailed, narrating how I would meet and pick them up, how I fucked them, etc,
As we get deeper into it she starts melting beneath me. She arches her back and moans louder and more intensely..grabs my ass with hunger.
Squirming and writhing under my hard body like a trapped fish.
She was so wet.
Now I'm not sure EXACTLY what about it was turning her on, so I'm not sure how to approach things from her.
I never knew about cuckqueaning until recently. To me, I'd just been cultivating a quiet harem - and it felt good. Natural. She would understand harem better than strange jargon too.
But maybe it's just voyeuristic? Cuckqueans out there, before you spilled the beans did you ever give subtle hints? Or signals that might be hard to interpret? What were they, how did you do it?
I don't want to assume she's into being cucked and I don't want to scare her or make her think I don't love her or want her anymore.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
wat do?
I don't want to oversell it or assume anything.
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No.20809
>>20808
PS: With great struggle and willpower I haven't been physically intimate with anyone but her for almost a year.
I am, however, talking to a few girls online. Just harmless sexting stuff with no strings but a couple could lead somewhere if I let it so, would it be worth mentioning that to her (even though it is truly harmless) and risk making her feel bad fuckin hurt?
Or just drip out bits of truth here and there gradually…ease into it slowly?
I'm not interested in a moral lecture; I do not feel like a bad person for having girls on the side, just for lying to her and risking her pain.
I'll be with her the rest of my life, no question.
GD stressful.
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No.20812
>>20809
Never do fucking anything to compromise trust. That's the bottom, immutable line for ANYONE you intend to keep around forever, from your wife to your barber. Don't shit where you eat unless you want a miserable life of security-minded distance between you and everyone you've made leery of you.
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No.20813
>>20808
>girlfriend of several years
>>20809
>With great struggle and willpower I haven't been physically intimate with anyone but her for almost a year.
So you’d already been cheating on her.
>I do not feel like a bad person for having girls on the side, just for lying to her and risking her pain
>feel like a bad person
>just for lying to her and risking her pain
>risking
There’s the main tell. Narcissists do not feel guilt, only shame.
Anyway, there’s no advice to give you.
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No.20815
>>20812
>>20813
You guys have been rightfully harsh on me.
I have been cheated on before and it sucked. Very shocking and damaging. Doing it to someone else after having felt that pain is the worst.
I don't think having a new fetish to share is worth the damage it could cause or the worries it might give her, when she doesn't deserve them.
Ultimately I probably just wanted to so much and got so excited because it felt like an escape path from having to actually confess and do the right thing; like a get out of jail free card.
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No.20816
>>20813
Also, of course I don't feel like a bad person because I have sex with other girls.
I feel like a bad person because it wasn't with her consent and knowledge.
Nothing remarkable about that.
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No.20818
OP here, 33 now.
>>20538
>It's such deep experience to share the things you love with someone and give them something fun and cool and new that they didn't previously know about, instead of being ashamed of revealing your hobbies and asking for a person who's a pre-packed combination of all your favourite shit. There's some important shit you must screen a chick for, but shallow nonsense like whether she plays the same toys or watches the same cartoons as you do? Nah…
Being ashamed of revealing my hobbies is a survival mechanism because in the day of social media, if I tell a womanI like Puni Puni Poemy or SVTFOE she can use it as "he's a pedophile, burn him" ammo to get an army of thirsty men to come murder me and the cops will probably join them.
>>20524
>there's nothing wrong with being a virgin whatsoever, would you have a problem with dating and committing yourself to a woman who's a virgin
Of course not, I would prefer it. But you know full well there are cultural differences between the genders there.
> just be prepared that not every woman will be interested in you based only on those characteristics if you choose to become more like that.
I'd prefer the ones who I don't have to change to woo. I think I am capable of being assertive but am mostly afraid of overdoing it (lady thinks I'm being rapey/predatorial) or competing with violent people who will murder me over a woman: I don't want to pursue women who seek out men like that.
>With regards to the fellas that typically lurk this board I find that more often than not they want a woman who'll willingly be cucked by them, instead of wanting just a partner they can build a relationship with.
Both would be nice, but if I had to choose just one it'd be the latter.
>If you were dating this girl you REALLY loved, and she broke it to you that she has a clown fetish and she really really really wants you to dress up as a clown for her, and that happens to not be your thing, should she dump you?
That's up to her and how important that would be to her, I guess. It's hard to imagine since I would be okay with dressing as a clown. Honk Honk. What makes a stable relationship is mutual fulfillment, so if I am not fulfilling her desire for clown fetish then it may not remain stable long-term if she feels unfulfilled.
>You said it right there, you never even bothered starting. I assume because you don't know where?
I could start anywhere, but odds seem so low of finding a good match that it doesn't seem worth the time. It's boring or frustrating. Supposedly we weather that on the slim hope of some ultimate reward, but maybe I'm not as idealistic as many?
>Honest advice is to do like >>20522 said. Helps build confidence in men, you'll be in better shape after a while lotta girls drool over nice trained bodies, and it's never a negative to be able to defend yourself in a fight
I do lift, I'm not sure why you guys would assume I don't. I could certainly do more of it, but I'm not particularly motivated, I guess? I think getting a license to own a rifle would be more useful in defending queans/vixens in the home than having jacked lats from doing chinups though.
>what you should really be focusing on is just finding a partner
It's the prescreening process which seems complicated. However we may seem to match on easily-talked-about things, I can't see any way of knowing that she will accept my niche interests without knowing she has similar niche interests too. This isn't "the same cartoons" as other poster said. It doesn't have to be EXACTLY the same, but it needs to be weird enough and deal with enough of the same issues and cultural differences for me to think she will tolerate mine.
If I have to hold a lot of myself back, even if I can have hot sex I'm not sure it would be worth it in the long run. I think both of us would ultimately end up being unhappy if we couldn't strive to be open.
>Date for the sake of finding a partner who you'll be able to confide, trust, love and get loved back for life.
I guess I'm not sure how to evaluate during this search. Finding these traits is hard enough for normies, but women who will love and be trustworthy towards normal men may not feel that way towards a guy who watched the entire Akazukin Chacha series during his mid-20s, for example. I think they'd focus too much on the blonde loli and miss how Seravi never stopped loving Dorothy.
> Go have sex with a clean hooker, that might help calm your nerves
I think I would just feel let down and disgustied doing that. I could probably have consensual sex with a non-hooker, perhaps even a moderately attractive woman. I think I could roleplay a normal guy long enough to get it in, but I don't think it would make me happy, and I don't want to use anybody like that.
>>20794
>30 year old boomer
I don't think that term applies to us, it applied to our parents.
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No.20820
>>20818
You come across as extremely autistic. Your best bet is to find another autist like yourself.
Being a 33 year old virgin is going to make you look back to the general public, no question about it. Men are expected to have passions and appetites they pursue vigorously - it's a sign of virility. People are going to assume, then, that you've wanted sex as much as any man and tried to get it but been rejected constantly.
That is going to make people assume something is seriously wrong with you.
I'm not saying it's true, or commenting on the justice of it.
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No.20821
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No.20823
>>20818
The thing is that you should enjoy anime and vidya and cartoons and whatever it is you're passionate about, but women aren't going to screen you for these specific things, they first screen for looks/body language, then personality, then (most importantly) character.
I always tell the girls that I date that I like anime and they're not bothered by it, in fact, they feel like they're old-fashioned for not knowing much about it and try to talk about the only animes they did watch just to qualify themselves to me and not seem boring, but this is because I covered all the other more important shit first, I'm not just "the anime guy" to them, that's not all I am and all I have to offer, and I don't care if they watched all the seasons of Monogatari or not, if they didn't it's all the better because we could binge watch it together, and watching it with someone else is like watching it for the first time all over again.
At the end of the day, it's really irrelevant what the girl enjoys in relation to your own tastes, because assuming she does love every single show that you do, she will be disgusted to share the same taste with someone who comes off as a loser, but assuming she doesn't know anything about your favourite shows, she will think they must be good, because you're a good person, and since you enjoy them, they must be good too. It sucks, but the fact that you don't want to understand this means you're just going to keep on suffering with unrealistic expectations.
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No.20829
My gf has the 'tism and I hate kuuderes. What do?
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No.20875
>>15398
>Be me
>Collegefag
>Been crushing on a girl from start
>Nothing happens
>Eventually i end up dating her friend
>We love each other a lot
>Still feel raw about never being with the other girl
>Girlfriend is extremely jealous
>She starts sending me photos of my previous crush and asks me if i still want her
>I say no despite it's the other way around
>Tfw she only does it to see if i will cheat on her
>Tfw want her to be a cuckquean but will never happen
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No.20876
>>20875
>Tfw she only does it to see if i will cheat on her
Just because you say you want to sleep with the other girl doesn't mean you'll cheat, it means you're a man considering his options, which even non-cuckqueans find attractive to a certain degree. The answer is "yes of course I do" and then if really pressed you point out you're with her rather than the previous crush. This is called "romance".
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No.20878
>>20876
This.
As a man, I "want" any attractive woman with a pulse.
Actually getting together with them is an entirely different matter that does not depend just on my "want".
Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
Man's attraction towards other women does not magically go away with promise of exclusivity.
Man's promise of exclusivity means he will ignore that attraction.
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No.20887
>>20820
>Your best bet is to find another autist like yourself.
I'm not really interested in settling to maximize odds, but luckily I do like autistic-style nerdy girls anyway, always have. I don't know how often autistic people actually want relationships though. If I'm on that spectrum somewhere (or is everyone?) it's probably on the "able to function" Asperger's area.
>Being a 33 year old virgin is going to make you look back to the general public
Look bad? The general public doesn't actually know what your sexual experience is unless you advertise it. I don't go around saying it IRL like I do online.
>Men are expected to have passions and appetites they pursue vigorously - it's a sign of virility.
Those can be non-sexual passions and appetites. Besides: you don't actually have to pursue sex vigorously to attain it. I really don't think it's that hard at all. So doing it isn't really proof of virility unless you attain someone who seems out of the league and you need to work hard to 'land'. Which is romantic for some, but feels artificial to me.
>People are going to assume, then, that you've wanted sex as much as any man and tried to get it but been rejected constantly.
I can't remember ever getting rejected, actually. I simply haven't pursued relationships or pushed for sex.
>That is going to make people assume something is seriously wrong with you.
If they found out? Sure? But I don't really like people who jump to assume things anyway. Also: subjectivity of wrongness aside, in normies terms I'm sure there are things about me many would consider to be wrong. I expect a lot of people see something 'wrong' with cuck/cuckquean mindsets too.
>>20823
>they first screen for looks/body language, then personality, then (most importantly) character.
I realize the value in looks, although there is a burden to that in that one might attract girls who don't share your interests too. Girls who share my interests may very well be like me and not be extraverts who approach people they want relationships with.
BTW, where is line between personality and character? Confusing.
>I always tell the girls that I date that I like anime and they're not bothered by it, in fact, they feel like they're old-fashioned for not knowing much about it and try to talk about the only animes they did watch just to qualify themselves to me and not seem boring
Presumably this means they already like you for traits they do understand like your looks/personality/character?
This is about as open-ended as "I like books" or "I like cartoons" though, it doesn't really say much about the particular types you're open to watching, and I think understanding those specifics is what could create wedges.
>watching it with someone else is like watching it for the first time all over again.
I want to understand that feel. I don't know if I'd want to have my firsts be with otehrs since it might distract me but if I'm recapping what's already in my mind then I wouldn't mind the distraction and could partly focus on their own enjoyment.
> assuming she does love every single show that you do, she will be disgusted to share the same taste with someone who comes off as a loser
Depends on standards of determining who is a loser I suppose.
>assuming she doesn't know anything about your favourite shows, she will think they must be good, because you're a good person, and since you enjoy them, they must be good too.
At some point one would hope a girl would judge content by its own merits and not shape an impression of it just based on who likes it. Also how would she judge my character as good in the first place? Its own merit, or whether or not people she alreadys thinks are good like me?
> It sucks, but the fact that you don't want to understand this means you're just going to keep on suffering with unrealistic expectations.
I do understand that whether or not someone is open to appreciating a hobby is influenced by preconceptions about that character. I'm sure rock-collecting would seem creepy if some 400 pound guy was doing it, but cultured/intellectual if some fit 200pound guy was doing it, for example.
>>20875
Just say you want her. If your GF is going to throw a fit for honestly admitting you're attracted to other girls, it's like she's trying to compel you to lie, dominating you. Falling into this pattern is the kind of shit I fear in relationships, to start making concessions like that. I mean, I understand thirst, but it seems like people get addicted to relationships and get so thirsty they start denying themselves to fit some mold a girl wants.
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No.20895
>>20887
> one might attract girls who don't share your interests too
I'm gonna stop you right there, anon. You're claiming you don't want to invest in becomming attractive, because you're selecting for women who don't care for attraction in the first place?
I can understand that. My question then would be: have you had any luck with that so far? Is your presumption, that women who share your interests and values, also don't care for looks valid?
If not, then what exactly are we talking about here?
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No.20901
Is this fetish perhaps very common among women?
Just read some light novels and mangas labeled as Shoujo or Josei for the past few days. It seems the three most common plot for the romance genre were:
1. "Princess/Priestess/Noblewoman stole my man so I am going to romance another man".
2. "There is this woman who are a bitch to me, her man is good to me so imma stole him away from her. AKA I am being a bitch to a girl so my lover left me for her in the antagonist's perspective"
3. "This man is a bad boy who is so mean and disrespect me at all possible way so I am gonna fuck him. He also happens to have a girlfriend who is equally bitchy so serves her right"
I notice variations of this plot also exist in several romance movies if said movies has a female main character. This starting to makes me wonders…Is this perhaps a veeery common fetish among women and that they just didnt notice?
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No.20908
>>20895
>I'm gonna stop you right there, anon. You're claiming you don't want to invest in becomming attractive, because you're selecting for women who don't care for attraction in the first place?
I want to invest in becoming attractive in universal ways (for example, building a muscular/lean physique, removing a couple weird moles) but I want to look weird in a way which drives off certain normy women who I don't feel I would be compatible with. Although I'm not certain how.
I wear glasses. They're thin-rimmed and very modern, not very noticeable, so they would not drive of many normy women, so I was thinking of getting a really ugly thick-rimmed pair so that I might repel girls who don't like the bookish/nerdy look and select for those who are not attracted to stereotypical trends.
> Is your presumption, that women who share your interests and values, also don't care for looks valid?
Oh no, I do care for looks, and so would women who share my interests. I'm repulsed by extreme obesity, and I would be repulsed by a woman who was not also repulsed by it, that's an unhealthy lack of prejudice! I just mean in regards to other kinds of appearance-based stuff unrelated to health, like giving a shit about whether or not someone's haircut is of equal symmetrical length, or those who are OCD about healthy male musk such as and hate it instead of being aroused by it in reasonable degrees.
Obviously we both should still bathe (but maybe every 2 days instead of daily) and not smell like feces. Dental care and fresh breath is also a must, I floss and gargle daily!
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No.20919
>>20796
Did you post as a married man with a wife open to you having a fling? Or did you just post as any other guy?
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No.21049
>>20554
Because they get off on it, dummy.
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No.21053
>>20919
Just posted as any other guy. Think mentioning my wife would give me better luck?
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No.21057
>>20554
Who in her right mind would want a relationship with a cuck?
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No.21114
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