>>20727

You are causing feelings of strife within me. Having a big tiddy mommie gf who brings you treats and chicken tendies at the end of the day would be comfy as fuck, but as much as I love /gfd/, I don't think I can ever put myself in a place where I have to depend on someone else for anything, especially money. The only way this arrangement could work is if I had my own business at home.

Also, sauce?

>>20728

> it is a bad thing that you can just sit down and relax

Nope. It's a good idea to sit down and relax. It's the scope of reaxing we seem to disagree on. If your chores are done in two hours, which unless you're taking care of newborn or a whole bunch of children, they will be. Then relaxing the rest of the day off is just excessive laziness.

> There's so much you can do at home.

Agree. I'm not telling you what to do with your life, but the idea behind all this fancy tech we have today is so you can go do something else. Ideally more important, or more fun. I mean, is there nothing else you want to do in life, that could benefit your children? Don't you want the best for them? I'm not saying you need to pick on a full-time job, but if you have the time, is there something you would want to do at least part time? Study for a pediatrician. Open a day-care, anything? Or is it TV and Internet for 40 years for you?

Citing this fella over here:

>>20726

“The mystery of human existence lies not in just staying alive, but in finding something to live for.”

>>20730

Pursuing knowledge for the sake of knowledge is nice, but that can be considered "a hobby", and considering turbo sperg, that might as well be "slacking off" as well.

>>20732

See >>20726

Have fun with you career whore, cuck.

>>20733

> Suggest maybe taking something she might be interested in as a side gig, once kids leave the house and go into school.

> Career whore.

I'm starting to understands your particular delusion.

>>20734

>Letting your woman open herself to be an strong and independent woman

Yeah, you are cancer.

>>20722

>plopping out a few kids

>can laze around the apartment her whole life

Do you have any concept of how kids work? If by "few" you mean more than two then I really doubt she would any time even for shitposting unless if she wanted to face criminal neglect charges.

>>20727

2D =/= 3D anon

Don't fall for nippon government's propaganda. Salarywomen don't love you and view househusbands as convenience at best and as utter NEET trash on average.

>>20731

I understand your point. Nobody's arguing that having a very young baby is hard work. That's why I said you need to stay at home, if you've recently had a baby. There is no discussion on that.

But look at it from another perspective.

Let's say you've been a good girl, and you're on your 10th child, like a proper mother should be. And for sake of an argument, the births are spaced out by 2 years (and even that is kinda pushing it). That means You'll never be taking care of more than 2-3 babies at a time, since they have the fortunate tendency to leave for education at around age 4-6.

So, let's say you're done creating life, and our youngest is 6, leaving for the first day of school.

You wake them up. Prep lunches, drive them all to school in a mini-van.

Come home, load dish-washer, load washer / drier, mop the floors.

That's what? 2-3 hours?

In the afternoon you pick them up from school and cook dinner. That's 2 hours. Because yes indeed, our kids will have an hour long commute and you cook complex meal every night. That's how things work IRL.

So we're at grand total of 5 hours worst case scenario. And that includes things that you may not be doing every day.

Now, here's the question. You could say: "but sempai, how about other things that kid's need? Like studying? Playing? Socialization? Tours?" And you'd be right!

But the thing is, I want to spend some time with my kids too! Doing just those things. Those are not chores. Those are the nice things about having kids, so no bueno on counting that as "chores".

Another thing is that, if you want to do everything for your kids till they leave the house, you'll cripple them in life. They should help with house chores as they grow older, alleviating a chunk of your chores, like cleaning the house, or doing dishes and laundry. If you're on your 10th child, you have plenty helping hands around.

Not to mention that in this 10 child - 2 year gap scenario, and follow a rule that you have a kid every 2 years, that means if the youngest is 6, the oldest is ~26, and already flown the house.

So, you started having babies at 20, had 10 of them. Now you're 46 and they're all gone to various schools. You still have 20 years till retirement. What do you do? Well, how about putting all that skill you've learned to good use, and open a daycare, write a book, or do something else interesting and useful.

>>20745

>/nya/

That board seems very homosexual. At least you’re being honest and staying in the male containment thread.

>>20757

>>20758

We care because /cuckquean/ is gender-fundamentalist and prohibits male homosexual discussion and content, meaning that content about men who wish to be acknowledged as woman is not welcome here. That other board registers as one of male homosexuals who like /pretend/ing, so shilling it here seems to be of very little relevance.

>>20763

Just because you identify as a catgirl doen't mean anyone will want to fuck you.

>>20763

I think that's a picture of a wolf girl.

>>20764

Well not *just* because of that.

>>20794

Make a tinder profile along her and go from there.

>>20795

Actually tried Tinder for a while. Not much luck; a few chats and then got ghosted.

>>20794

How did you pick up your wife?

Do you lift? If you don’t lift then start lifting and keep lifting. It’s a good idea for more reasons than just picking up. The rest is charisma and experience; “Models: Attract Women Through Honesty” is a good beginner’s guide.

>>20798

I know you're memeing, but I honestly don't know how my wife and I got together. We met through a mutual friend and she pursued me.

>>20809

Never do fucking anything to compromise trust. That's the bottom, immutable line for ANYONE you intend to keep around forever, from your wife to your barber. Don't shit where you eat unless you want a miserable life of security-minded distance between you and everyone you've made leery of you.

>>20808

>girlfriend of several years

>>20809

>With great struggle and willpower I haven't been physically intimate with anyone but her for almost a year.

So you’d already been cheating on her.

>I do not feel like a bad person for having girls on the side, just for lying to her and risking her pain

>feel like a bad person

>just for lying to her and risking her pain

>risking

There’s the main tell. Narcissists do not feel guilt, only shame.

Anyway, there’s no advice to give you.

>>20813

Also, of course I don't feel like a bad person because I have sex with other girls.

I feel like a bad person because it wasn't with her consent and knowledge.

Nothing remarkable about that.

OP here, 33 now.

>>20538

>It's such deep experience to share the things you love with someone and give them something fun and cool and new that they didn't previously know about, instead of being ashamed of revealing your hobbies and asking for a person who's a pre-packed combination of all your favourite shit. There's some important shit you must screen a chick for, but shallow nonsense like whether she plays the same toys or watches the same cartoons as you do? Nah…

Being ashamed of revealing my hobbies is a survival mechanism because in the day of social media, if I tell a womanI like Puni Puni Poemy or SVTFOE she can use it as "he's a pedophile, burn him" ammo to get an army of thirsty men to come murder me and the cops will probably join them.

>>20524

>there's nothing wrong with being a virgin whatsoever, would you have a problem with dating and committing yourself to a woman who's a virgin

Of course not, I would prefer it. But you know full well there are cultural differences between the genders there.

> just be prepared that not every woman will be interested in you based only on those characteristics if you choose to become more like that.

I'd prefer the ones who I don't have to change to woo. I think I am capable of being assertive but am mostly afraid of overdoing it (lady thinks I'm being rapey/predatorial) or competing with violent people who will murder me over a woman: I don't want to pursue women who seek out men like that.

>With regards to the fellas that typically lurk this board I find that more often than not they want a woman who'll willingly be cucked by them, instead of wanting just a partner they can build a relationship with.

Both would be nice, but if I had to choose just one it'd be the latter.

>If you were dating this girl you REALLY loved, and she broke it to you that she has a clown fetish and she really really really wants you to dress up as a clown for her, and that happens to not be your thing, should she dump you?

That's up to her and how important that would be to her, I guess. It's hard to imagine since I would be okay with dressing as a clown. Honk Honk. What makes a stable relationship is mutual fulfillment, so if I am not fulfilling her desire for clown fetish then it may not remain stable long-term if she feels unfulfilled.

>You said it right there, you never even bothered starting. I assume because you don't know where?

I could start anywhere, but odds seem so low of finding a good match that it doesn't seem worth the time. It's boring or frustrating. Supposedly we weather that on the slim hope of some ultimate reward, but maybe I'm not as idealistic as many?

>Honest advice is to do like >>20522 said. Helps build confidence in men, you'll be in better shape after a while lotta girls drool over nice trained bodies, and it's never a negative to be able to defend yourself in a fight

I do lift, I'm not sure why you guys would assume I don't. I could certainly do more of it, but I'm not particularly motivated, I guess? I think getting a license to own a rifle would be more useful in defending queans/vixens in the home than having jacked lats from doing chinups though.

>what you should really be focusing on is just finding a partner

It's the prescreening process which seems complicated. However we may seem to match on easily-talked-about things, I can't see any way of knowing that she will accept my niche interests without knowing she has similar niche interests too. This isn't "the same cartoons" as other poster said. It doesn't have to be EXACTLY the same, but it needs to be weird enough and deal with enough of the same issues and cultural differences for me to think she will tolerate mine.

If I have to hold a lot of myself back, even if I can have hot sex I'm not sure it would be worth it in the long run. I think both of us would ultimately end up being unhappy if we couldn't strive to be open.

>Date for the sake of finding a partner who you'll be able to confide, trust, love and get loved back for life.

I guess I'm not sure how to evaluate during this search. Finding these traits is hard enough for normies, but women who will love and be trustworthy towards normal men may not feel that way towards a guy who watched the entire Akazukin Chacha series during his mid-20s, for example. I think they'd focus too much on the blonde loli and miss how Seravi never stopped loving Dorothy.

> Go have sex with a clean hooker, that might help calm your nerves

I think I would just feel let down and disgustied doing that. I could probably have consensual sex with a non-hooker, perhaps even a moderately attractive woman. I think I could roleplay a normal guy long enough to get it in, but I don't think it would make me happy, and I don't want to use anybody like that.

>>20794

>30 year old boomer

I don't think that term applies to us, it applied to our parents.

>>20818

You come across as extremely autistic. Your best bet is to find another autist like yourself.

Being a 33 year old virgin is going to make you look back to the general public, no question about it. Men are expected to have passions and appetites they pursue vigorously - it's a sign of virility. People are going to assume, then, that you've wanted sex as much as any man and tried to get it but been rejected constantly.

That is going to make people assume something is seriously wrong with you.

I'm not saying it's true, or commenting on the justice of it.

>>20820

*Bad

My gf has the 'tism and I hate kuuderes. What do?

>>20875

>Tfw she only does it to see if i will cheat on her

Just because you say you want to sleep with the other girl doesn't mean you'll cheat, it means you're a man considering his options, which even non-cuckqueans find attractive to a certain degree. The answer is "yes of course I do" and then if really pressed you point out you're with her rather than the previous crush. This is called "romance".

>>20876

This.

As a man, I "want" any attractive woman with a pulse.

Actually getting together with them is an entirely different matter that does not depend just on my "want".

Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Man's attraction towards other women does not magically go away with promise of exclusivity.

Man's promise of exclusivity means he will ignore that attraction.

>>20820

>Your best bet is to find another autist like yourself.

I'm not really interested in settling to maximize odds, but luckily I do like autistic-style nerdy girls anyway, always have. I don't know how often autistic people actually want relationships though. If I'm on that spectrum somewhere (or is everyone?) it's probably on the "able to function" Asperger's area.

>Being a 33 year old virgin is going to make you look back to the general public

Look bad? The general public doesn't actually know what your sexual experience is unless you advertise it. I don't go around saying it IRL like I do online.

>Men are expected to have passions and appetites they pursue vigorously - it's a sign of virility.

Those can be non-sexual passions and appetites. Besides: you don't actually have to pursue sex vigorously to attain it. I really don't think it's that hard at all. So doing it isn't really proof of virility unless you attain someone who seems out of the league and you need to work hard to 'land'. Which is romantic for some, but feels artificial to me.

>People are going to assume, then, that you've wanted sex as much as any man and tried to get it but been rejected constantly.

I can't remember ever getting rejected, actually. I simply haven't pursued relationships or pushed for sex.

>That is going to make people assume something is seriously wrong with you.

If they found out? Sure? But I don't really like people who jump to assume things anyway. Also: subjectivity of wrongness aside, in normies terms I'm sure there are things about me many would consider to be wrong. I expect a lot of people see something 'wrong' with cuck/cuckquean mindsets too.

>>20823

>they first screen for looks/body language, then personality, then (most importantly) character.

I realize the value in looks, although there is a burden to that in that one might attract girls who don't share your interests too. Girls who share my interests may very well be like me and not be extraverts who approach people they want relationships with.

BTW, where is line between personality and character? Confusing.

>I always tell the girls that I date that I like anime and they're not bothered by it, in fact, they feel like they're old-fashioned for not knowing much about it and try to talk about the only animes they did watch just to qualify themselves to me and not seem boring

Presumably this means they already like you for traits they do understand like your looks/personality/character?

This is about as open-ended as "I like books" or "I like cartoons" though, it doesn't really say much about the particular types you're open to watching, and I think understanding those specifics is what could create wedges.

>watching it with someone else is like watching it for the first time all over again.

I want to understand that feel. I don't know if I'd want to have my firsts be with otehrs since it might distract me but if I'm recapping what's already in my mind then I wouldn't mind the distraction and could partly focus on their own enjoyment.

> assuming she does love every single show that you do, she will be disgusted to share the same taste with someone who comes off as a loser

Depends on standards of determining who is a loser I suppose.

>assuming she doesn't know anything about your favourite shows, she will think they must be good, because you're a good person, and since you enjoy them, they must be good too.

At some point one would hope a girl would judge content by its own merits and not shape an impression of it just based on who likes it. Also how would she judge my character as good in the first place? Its own merit, or whether or not people she alreadys thinks are good like me?

> It sucks, but the fact that you don't want to understand this means you're just going to keep on suffering with unrealistic expectations.

I do understand that whether or not someone is open to appreciating a hobby is influenced by preconceptions about that character. I'm sure rock-collecting would seem creepy if some 400 pound guy was doing it, but cultured/intellectual if some fit 200pound guy was doing it, for example.

>>20875

Just say you want her. If your GF is going to throw a fit for honestly admitting you're attracted to other girls, it's like she's trying to compel you to lie, dominating you. Falling into this pattern is the kind of shit I fear in relationships, to start making concessions like that. I mean, I understand thirst, but it seems like people get addicted to relationships and get so thirsty they start denying themselves to fit some mold a girl wants.

>>20887

> one might attract girls who don't share your interests too

I'm gonna stop you right there, anon. You're claiming you don't want to invest in becomming attractive, because you're selecting for women who don't care for attraction in the first place?

I can understand that. My question then would be: have you had any luck with that so far? Is your presumption, that women who share your interests and values, also don't care for looks valid?

If not, then what exactly are we talking about here?

Is this fetish perhaps very common among women?

Just read some light novels and mangas labeled as Shoujo or Josei for the past few days. It seems the three most common plot for the romance genre were:

1. "Princess/Priestess/Noblewoman stole my man so I am going to romance another man".

2. "There is this woman who are a bitch to me, her man is good to me so imma stole him away from her. AKA I am being a bitch to a girl so my lover left me for her in the antagonist's perspective"

3. "This man is a bad boy who is so mean and disrespect me at all possible way so I am gonna fuck him. He also happens to have a girlfriend who is equally bitchy so serves her right"

I notice variations of this plot also exist in several romance movies if said movies has a female main character. This starting to makes me wonders…Is this perhaps a veeery common fetish among women and that they just didnt notice?

>>20895

>I'm gonna stop you right there, anon. You're claiming you don't want to invest in becomming attractive, because you're selecting for women who don't care for attraction in the first place?

I want to invest in becoming attractive in universal ways (for example, building a muscular/lean physique, removing a couple weird moles) but I want to look weird in a way which drives off certain normy women who I don't feel I would be compatible with. Although I'm not certain how.

I wear glasses. They're thin-rimmed and very modern, not very noticeable, so they would not drive of many normy women, so I was thinking of getting a really ugly thick-rimmed pair so that I might repel girls who don't like the bookish/nerdy look and select for those who are not attracted to stereotypical trends.

> Is your presumption, that women who share your interests and values, also don't care for looks valid?

Oh no, I do care for looks, and so would women who share my interests. I'm repulsed by extreme obesity, and I would be repulsed by a woman who was not also repulsed by it, that's an unhealthy lack of prejudice! I just mean in regards to other kinds of appearance-based stuff unrelated to health, like giving a shit about whether or not someone's haircut is of equal symmetrical length, or those who are OCD about healthy male musk such as and hate it instead of being aroused by it in reasonable degrees.

Obviously we both should still bathe (but maybe every 2 days instead of daily) and not smell like feces. Dental care and fresh breath is also a must, I floss and gargle daily!

>>20796

Did you post as a married man with a wife open to you having a fling? Or did you just post as any other guy?

>>20554

Because they get off on it, dummy.

>>20919

Just posted as any other guy. Think mentioning my wife would give me better luck?

>>20554

Who in her right mind would want a relationship with a cuck?

How is babby born?