No.1069673 [View All]
How much longer will the "calarts" style be around for? To be more specific the noodle arm, bean head, bean mouth, incredibly simple geometric bodies, etc. When will there be more animators doing their own style? I know indie animation is a thing, but in mainstream cartoons everything looks the same.
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No.1071416
>>1071308
Because anime became more popular than Western animation these days. Leaves some days pretty salty about it.
Honestly I could sympathise, but one of the factors for anime's current popularity boom is due to the decline in Western entertainment such as CalArts and Tumblr garbage driving people away.
Unfortunately the West may never make another beautiful series like Gargoyles ever again. I heard the Ducktales reboot was good though.
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No.1071418
>>1069673
To add on to the Calarts shitfest there's a new "Magical Girl Inspired" parody premiering on Syfy called "Magical Girl Friendship Squad" with a total of six episodes lasting 15 minutes each. Here's a link to the article and trailer.
https://archive.md/oMmN1
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No.1071420
>>1071308
Because anime made a generation of western animators lazy by abusing limited animation Technics + very simple character design.
>>1071416
>I heard the Ducktales reboot was good though.
Nah, you will disappointed. Nu-ducktales is a woke Venture Bros.
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No.1071421
>Honestly I could sympathise, but one of the factors for anime's current popularity boom is due to the decline in Western entertainment such as CalArts and Tumblr garbage driving people away.
It also has to do with how certain genres are rarely animated unless you go nip.
>straight action cartoons are dead. With near everything being an action comedy hybrid with heavy emphasis on the comedy.
>romance cartoons never really became a thing aside from disney . With romance being mostly a subplot thing in most cartoons.
> Only certain subgenre's or tones of genre media are made in the west. There is no dark fantasy, no epic fantasy, no space opera, no adventure cartoons that style themselves after anything but adventure time. It's very narrow in comparison to anime which still gets several shows in these genres, even with the glut of formulaic haremshit or isekai.
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No.1071423
>>1071421
I just missed what everyone in this age called cheesy western cartoon with basic plot
. I am a simple man.
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No.1071424
>>1071421
should also add that western adult animation is much narrower, with most shows aimed at adults begin shitty animated comedies or shit like this >>1071418 , with shows like venture bros being the exception to the rule. Those in charge of cartoon studios seem not to get how big a demographic teenagers/young adults are either, with no show explicitly pandering to their tastes and the shows that do acquire an audience like that being gutted because they don't buy toys.
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No.1071425
>>1071420
>western animators
You mean the anonymous Asians that the animation is outsourced to. They don't even use anime techniques, and anyone who thinks anime = lazy doesn't know shit about animation. If you mean anime has simple character design it's time to put down the crack pipe.
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No.1071427
>>1069905
>>1071281
this show was outsourced to a korean "Studio SEK" it seems.
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No.1071429
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No.1071495
>>1071429
what the hell did you expect at this point?
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No.1071498
>>1071429
To be fair, Penn was just there to hire Blowey Zoey to kill a guy and decided to buy a teleseminar from Anita's van.
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No.1071512
>>1069673
>>1069707
It's not so much a popular and obligatory art style as it is likely due to corporate mandate to try and shove what's worked on other shows into this just like they did anime-inspired cartoons in the 00's, and failing miserably (and a pinch of laziness from the cast and crew) and/or an overlap of styles from working closely together.
"Cal-Arts style" was a phrase John K. would use to describe shows he didn't like, such as Dexter's Lab, The Powerpuff Girls, even Animaniacs, because he felt that all of these people were graduates from these same schools, and were told to drawn a certain way he didn't approve of, and that phrase it's being re-appropriated again to describe this new "bean-face" trend going on with cartoons, which I agree is a problem; more so with the fact that executives can think they can plaster this look onto other reboots (see The Powerpuff Girls, Ben 10, Thundercats, and so on). And if you still don't get why that's such a stupid thing to say, most of these people didn't graduate from CalArts, and most that did made vastly different looking cartoons afterwards.
>Rebecca Sugar (Steven Universe) and Ian Jones Quartey (OK KO) Graduated from the School of Visual Arts in New York
>Ben Bocquelet (Gumball) graduated from EMCA in France.
The only people who did graduate from CalArts that're used in that image floating around showing the beanfaces were Daron Nefcy (Star Vs.) and Alex Hirsch (Gravity Falls), but even then Alex also worked for his classmate Thurop Van Orman immediately after graduating on Flapjack. Other graduates like Pendelton Ward, J.G. Quintel, Gennedy Tartokovsky (Dexter's Lab/Samurai Jack), Craig McCracken (PPG/Foster's/Wander Over Yonder), Lauren Faust, I could go on; the creator of Thundercats Roar - a.k.a. not the manbun guy - Marley Halpern-Graser isn't even from CalArts, he's from Canada.
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No.1071513
>>1071512
So basically:
>The beans are a problem
>The university, not
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No.1071516
>>1071512
probably many dont notice but Jhonny Test started it all, whne Execs saw how cheap that shit was to produce and how much you could spam it, they demanded more shit like that.
Also action toons with angles and perspectives is more expensive.
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No.1071777
>>1069905
>>1071281
searching around seems that the original studio that created this is ded
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No.1071786
>>1069905
>now do European Japanese Animation please
Fucking stupid
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No.1071792
>>1069704
Who cares about twitter/tumblr audience?
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No.1071793
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No.1071794
>>1069807
>Actually most Japanese animators are not unionized, get terrible pay, long hours and typically get worked to death
Doesn't sounds much different than American companies.
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No.1071795
>>1069708
Many shows nobody is watching are keep produced like Simpsons.
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No.1071796
>>1071794
Its far worse, a damn 7/11 employee in Japan makes more than a animator there.
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No.1071803
>>1071794
American animation companies don't have to think about this problem since they outsource their work to other countries instead.
>>1071796
Key animators make more, and they can also take animation direction and character design jobs that pay more than key animation.
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No.1071853
>Cartoonfags: "Bleh. All anime are so generic, they all look the same."
>Also cartoonfags: "Stop calling modern cartoon as Calarts cartoon!"
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No.1071857
>>1069905
>>1071281
All episodes seem to have italian subs
Is there a way to download those and google translate em?
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No.1071861
>>1071853
Anon, anime is cartoon.
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No.1071862
>>1071861
>anime is cartoon
Its French champagne logic.
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No.1071864
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No.1071867
>>1071862
aaaaAAAAAAhhhhh the french
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No.1071868
>>1071864
Real champagne is only from the champagne region of France and under certain laws you can't call sparkling wine champagne unless its from France. Anime is only from Japan, anything that claims to be anime that isn't from Japan (or Japanese directed) isn't anime; the only exception to the rule is Japan itself where the term comes from. Oddly enough "anime" as a word actually originates from France, if my memory is correct.
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No.1071873
>>1071868
>ddly enough "anime" as a word actually originates from France
"Anime" means animation in french, so regarding their origin, they call them animé.
>Anime is only from Japan, anything that claims to be anime that isn't from Japan (or Japanese directed) isn't anime; the only exception to the rule is Japan itself where the term comes from
That's why I prefer "japanese animation", even japanimation have more meaning than anime.
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No.1071889
>>1071861
Nobody actually seriously thinks this.
>>1071868
'Anime' comes from from 'animeeshon.'
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No.1071892
>>1071867
champagne, always celebrated for it's essekslence
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No.1071933
>>1069673
"Calarts" style doesn't exist, half of these cartoons had way more dedicated art for their pilots. Calarts is just a good place to learn and people from there often get hired so it looks like that's the shit they teach.
The truth is dickhead broadcasting companies fucking with the art style so they don't have to spend as much money on making the show. That's the real reason the "Calarts" style seems to exist. All of these cartoons (apart from Star vs.) have vastly different pilot art compared to the final product.
Although personally, Steven Universe really needed the art style change because holy shit was it fucking ugly.
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No.1071962
>>1071933
>"Calarts" style doesn't exist
>shows big eyes, strange proportions and pastel colors
You straight up prove yourself wrong with the first sentence.
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No.1071992
Cartoons have been disgusting since forever though, the "incredibly simple geometric bodies" has been a thing since I was born.
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No.1071996
>>1071962
>>1071933
Well he does have a point but not in the way he thinks he has. SU for one has literally no artistic oversight and all of its visuals are done by korean sweatshop animators who dont give a shit. I wouldnt be surprised if all those shows are contracted out to the same bugman sweatshop with the same people drawing and animating it.
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No.1071998
>>1071992
but iris is super cute.
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No.1072006
>>1071992
why would you post an edited version instead of the original to make your point? Who even made this version anyhow? Was it to bait ruby gloom fags?
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No.1072007
>>1072006
I think that's supposed to be the joke.
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No.1072010
>>1071992
I'd rather fuck Iris than this generic Moeblob that will probably piss in my bed all the time, like she most likely does in episode 1 of her weeb shit anime. I don't even need to watch it to predict it.
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No.1073402
>>1070182
If anything, this just proves that Western animation is shite, no matter the decade, and we all need to watch Asterix & Obelix.
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No.1073439
>>1069905
>>1071281
Someone, due of kindness or autism, put English subs to the first episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOvJPcGNfM
its very low quality for a 2018 show
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No.1073461
>>1073402
Good job asshole, Albert Uderzo is dead because of your post.
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No.1073462
>>1073461
Mate, I was watching The Mokey show and I didn't freak out when Roman Arambula passed away.
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No.1073647
>>1073402
>If anything, this just proves that Western animation is shite, no matter the decade, and we all need to watch [western comic].
???
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No.1073654
>>1073462
>I was watching The Mokey show
The fuck is that?
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No.1073850
>>1069673
Cal arts won't die, it'll just evolve into something else over the next 10 years. Enjoy the ride down the toilet.
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No.1073874
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No.1073878
>>1073647
>implying that euro-comics aren't kino
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No.1074477
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>>1069673
As long as the instructors can easily maintain their coke, smack, and meth addictions as art teachers, American art colleges will continue to churn out garbage graduates with a marginal ability to draw or illustrate.
If you're an American who wanting to be a good animator who wants to go the college route, you'll have to go to East Asia or central Europe or Eastern Europe. Specifically, South Korea, Japan, possibly China, Belgium, France, Italy, or some former soviet republic. Or you can put in the work and go it without the schools like some did.
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