No.3307 [Last50 Posts]
Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law goes into effect on April 1, 2015. As that date approaches, restaurant across the city are making the financial decision to close shop. The Washington Policy Center writes that “closings have occurred across the city, from Grub in the upscale Queen Anne Hill neighborhood, to Little Uncle in gritty Pioneer Square, to the Boat Street Cafe on Western Avenue near the waterfront.”
Of course, restaurants close for a variety of reasons. But, according to Seattle Magazine, the “impending minimum wage hike to $15 per hour” is playing a “major factor.” That’s not surprising, considering “about 36% of restaurant earnings go to paying labor costs.” Seattle Magazine,
“Washington Restaurant Association’s Anthony Anton puts it this way: “It’s not a political problem; it’s a math problem.”
http://shiftwa.org/more-seattle-restaurants-close-doors-as-15-minimum-wage-approaches/ ____________________________
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No.3319
>$15 minimum wage law goes into effect on April 1, 2015
> The remaining 4 percent has been the profit margin, and as a result, in a $700,000 restaurant, he estimates that the average restauranteur in Seattle has been making $28,000 a year.
Smells kinda bullshit.
Either way, I would be in favor of higher minimum wages in restaurants if it also meant the abolition of tipping.
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No.3320
>>3307We're talking about a city that has resisted building a train system for over 20 because of environmental concerns, despite the fact that a lack of such a system has contributed to more people driving and therefore more pollution.
But they're worried because they might have to cut down some trees.
Seattle is not what you'd call a "big picture" town.
Also I'm down for raising minimum wage, but 15 bucks is too much. Especially for waiters in a metropolitan area. They're likely pulling in 300-500 on a busy weekend if they're any good at their job.
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No.3323
Restaurants that can't even make enough to pay their workers minimum wage shouldn't exist
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No.3327
>>3323too bad poor people love dem sum fast food
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No.3347
>>3323You're right. Matter of fact, why stop at $15? We should raise it to $50 dollars.
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No.3353
I hope this means more mom n pop restaurants serving food cooked with love will pop up.
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No.3354
>>3353>I hope this means more mom n pop restaurants serving food cooked with love will pop up.
>mom and pop places>greasy spoons just barely skirting the most basic standards of hygiene and cleanliness>"cooked with love" means your meal will take 20 minutes longer than it should>menu consists entirely of "X's World Famous Y">everything covered in butterBUT IT'S FOLKSY
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No.3358
>>3354>chain restaurants>everything is bland and comes from the same mold>waitresses dont give a shit about service because "lol i just work here">same with cooks as long as the food looks like in the pictures and is safe to eat anything goes even if you forgot all the spices>ridiculously expensive for mcdonalds-tier processed factory shityeah fuck chain restaurants
>"cooked with love" means your meal will take 20 minutes longer than it shouldWhere i'm from this is usually other way around because chain restaurants are staffed with people who dont give a shit and have absolutely no real skills in cooking either.
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No.3359
>>3358>the only options are Mom and Pop shitholes or chain restaurantsSpoken like a true poorfag.
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No.3362
>>3359>spending up to 100 yoropoor dollaroos on a single shitty steak with dessert and some overpriced wineYeah i guess i'l continue to eat on poorfag joints, atleast they know how to make good damn burger and you arent forced to drink pig disgusting wine not to mention no one gives a shit if i read Donald duck or the daily newspaper while eating my meal in peace.
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No.3363
>>3362>Assumes I'm EuropoorI live in America, numb nuts.
>single steakHow many fucking steaks do you eat in one sitting, Lard Lad?
>dessertI only eat dessert on a rarity, but when I do it's something I can't prepare at home (like bananas foster)
>overpriced wineSorry it's not Bartles and James, I'm sure the rest of the staff at Target recommend it as well, but when I go out it's grown up time.
>his idea of a good dinner is a cheeseburgerNevermind, we're done. Stay poor, pleb.
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No.3366
>>3363dude I also enjoy dining at good expensive restaurant but the reason you think they are usually better than the cheap ones is probably cause you live in a shithole like the USA with no culinary culture at all
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No.3368
>>3363>I live in America, numb nuts.Typical amerilard, thinking everything revolves around U S of A
>How many fucking steaks do you eat in one sitting, Lard Lad?1, the thing is because us yoropoors dont forcefeed our cattle with corn our steaks are smaller and some "rich'n fancy" places really skim on the size to make sure you HAVE TO also order a entree and dessert to feel full and satisfied at all justifying it with "m-muh grade A quality kobe beefu" despite it's from the same fucking cow the cheap mincemeat on markets is
>I only eat dessert on a rarity, but when I do it's something I can't prepare at home (like bananas foster)see above but yeah same, fucking hipster joints charging 10bucks for some fucking slice of pancake with tiny bit of whipped cream and jam in it ridiculous
>Sorry it's not Bartles and James, I'm sure the rest of the staff at Target recommend it as well, but when I go out it's grown up time.Wine is overrated shit, then again i really dislike the taste of ALL alcohol from beer to tequila etc
>Nevermind, we're done. Stay poor, pleb.well made cheeseburger with good patty and bun is fucking oishii you stupid fat nigger are you implying only cheeseburgers ever are the ones you buy from mcdonalds by the dozens?
>>3366Also this.
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No.3369
>>3366>USA with no culinary culture at all>USA>no culinary cultureHa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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No.3370
>>3368>doesn't like wine>thinks spending more than 4 dollars on a cheeseburger is a good use of money>thinks 10 dollars is too much for dessert Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
No.3371
>>3370>liking wine>spending 10dollaridoos on a desert with nothing "groundbreaking" in it that would justify the steep price>not buying quality cheeseburger from mom'n pop joint with fries for 10dollaroos instead and maybe a fresh slice of pie or pancake for dessert with 3-4yorosSure sure spend your money on pointless overpriced shit, your masters are proud of you goy!
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No.3374
>>3371>mom and pop joint>enter, dodging fly strips dangling from ceiling>obese crone waddles to front>"Wut y'all want?">"Uh, burger and fries.">hacking cough>"Arright. 7 dollahs.">she goes to the back>smokes another Kool>yells at the kids for twenty minutes>grabs fistful of room temperature ground beef>slaps it on grill for thiry seconds on each side in puddle of grease>hands it to you>fries are cold>drink watery>bus boy with Down's keeps staring at you>but you got your money's worth right?vs
>Arrive at dinner at appropriate reservation time>order meal cooked by professionally trained chefs >staff is polite, courteous, and respectful as befits customer-service interaction>choose wine pairing from sommaleir>eat dinner in a respectable environmentMaybe learn to rap or throw a basketball and you'll make it out of the ghetto, nigger.
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No.3375
>>3374Do you live in shitskinistan or something?
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No.3376
>>3366>USA with no culinary culture at allDo you realize that Louisiana and Texas are part of the United States?
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No.3377
>>3369Oh well, they still dishes from other countries and make them shittier, what a great culinary culture.
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No.3378
>>3377you must be one of those idiots that think white people have no culture as well, eh?
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No.3381
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No.3383
>>3354>cooked with loveYes, by lovely robots.
He works for 250watt/h and will entertain the kids!
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No.3394
>>3319>Either way, I would be in favor of higher minimum wages in restaurants if it also meant the abolition of tippingLOL
So are you a nigger, work at a majority-nigger establishment, or a server who just sucks at their job?
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No.3540
>>3307>socialism>not even once Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
No.3542
>>3374>This is youDDUUUUHHH IM FUCKING STOOID AND POOR. LEMME EAT SUM NIGGAH DICK ER SUMMTHIN
>this is meIll eat a delicious healthy meal at a reasonable price, be greeted and served by beautiful white women that went to a finishing school to do so, also got a blow-j from one, the shit was so cash. Left an exact 15% tip, did the math in my head in 1.3 seconds and left, and drove home in my cherry as fuck 2016 Caddy. Stay mad, plebs.
You sound like this. Nothing is wrong with a decent mom and pop place. Nothing is worse than a prentious faggot that thinks hes hot shit because of where he goes to eat. Grow up.
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No.3553
>>3542>2016 Caddy>post Northstar Cadillacshit taste
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No.3558
>>3319Why are restaurant workers entitled to a higher standard of living than other minimum wage workers? They're all narcissists who think they're to good to do real work.
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No.3559
>>3558because waiting tables is piss easy compared to most other low wage carriers, so it attracts slackers, who think they deserve more money then they're worth
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No.5844
So, is it impossible to go out to eat in Seattle now?
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No.5853
>>5844
Yes, all the restaurants are gone aside from Ivar's.
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No.5854
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>>5853
I thought Taco Bell was supposed to be the only restaurant to survive
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No.5878
>>3558
the entitlement usually comes from the front of house, where tips will usually average out to about $20 an hour even in shit mom'n'pop diners. the issue that needs resolving is the fact that most kitchen workers are horribly underpaid, subject to straight up negligently dangerous conditions, and regularly work overtime hours without receiving compensation. for whatever reason, the restaurant industry is one of the few manual labor occupations that isn't at all unionized, so owners tend to take advantage of it. add to that the fact that many kitchen workers are functionally illiterate, uneducated, may have criminal records, etc.
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No.5882
>>5878
>regularly work overtime hours without receiving compensation
Indeed, even here in developed first world country in Yorop this is a clear case.
Working at most restaurants is goddamn taxing on you both mental and physically for the pay it offers.
The few places i've interned or worked at have allways been understaffed in fact most private restaurants actually use interns as a source of labor.
The latest place i interned was a nice mom'n pop lunch-diner with buffet and everyday it was clear they desperately needed to hire an extra pair of hands and even when after a few weeks they got 2 more interns in addition to me (the place had 3chefs+the owners son who dealth with paperwork etc) and still the workload on everyone was fucking crazy.
Looking back i dont wonder why people get more and more depressed and burn't out with jobs like that and why after work and even in weekends they just open the Talmud Vision and laze it on the couch until it's monday again. Thank god my country so far has a decent welfare system so i can just neet it off and occasionally "work" few days a week at some small shift the employment or welfare office throws at me which isnt that often
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No.5916
Have people fill out a survey on the job being done (website from home) and tell people they should tip no more than 1% for every person at the table.
Offer to let the 15 year old hostess blow you for $150 too, she needs to save for college.
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No.6168
>>3363
Can't make naners fosters
Faggot
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No.9087
Apologies for necrobumping but still relevant and I'm interested
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No.9088
As long as the guys in the kitchen are getting $15 an hour too, then I don't give a fuck.
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No.9089
>>9088
>minimum wage
>re: the bare minimum required to pay your workers
>regardless of where in the facility they work
Why the fuck wouldn't it cover the kitchen staff?
Also,
>>9087
>>9088
Holy shit, hang your goddamned heads in shame and never bump a thread this old again,
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No.9091
>>9089
Fuck if I know why it wouldn't, I just got the impression from this thread that some people thought it just applied to the wait staff.
>complaining about necrobumping on a board that gets maybe 3 posts a day on a busy weekend
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No.9095
>>9091
Amen.
If a thread was actually old enough to be irrelephant, it would fall off the catalog.
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No.9102
>>9091
>a slow board is an excuse to bump shit that's literally over a year old
I will slap your shit.
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No.9103
>>9102
Yeah actually, that's exactly what I'm implying.
What the fuck are you gonna do about it? Cry to the mods I necro'd a thread you don't like?
Whatever, man.
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No.9105
>>9102
What's wrong with old shit? Next you'll tell me you don't like cheese, or wine.
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No.9108
>>9103
>I'm a contrarian faggot and you can't stop me
Your attitude is detrimental to the board. If you can't understand that, I won't bother trying explain it.
>>9105
It's no longer relevant.
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No.9117
>>9108
I'm glad you're skipping the argumentative bullshit so we can get straight to calling each other faggots.
I think I'll go and bump something on the last page, I'm sure there's something good down there.
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No.9122
I see I've riled up a few people with my necrobump. Good. Goood. Let the anger flow through you…..
The reason I did this is because Seattle is part of my home state and so I'm interested in opinion about it.
Fuckin sue me you insignificant dick.
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No.9146
Raising the minimum wage increases unemployment. Nothing new here.
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No.9165
>>3320
Personally for me, while I'm also in support of higher wages, I think there should be a buffer in place to help protec lower income buisness
If anything, the higher wages should be mainly at those large chains that could probably easily afford it and not a small town family owned buisness
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No.9405
>>3307
Well, if they can't manage to put their prices up without losing customers, they don't deserve to be in business.
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No.10182
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No.10194
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No.13310
>>3319
> The remaining 4 percent has been the profit margin, and as a result, in a $700,000 restaurant, he estimates that the average restauranteur in Seattle has been making $28,000 a year.
This isn't as unlikely as you might think. A lot of restaurant owners are basically poverty line - in terms of what they pay themselves. That being said, in a small neighborhood restaurant the restaurant is often the ground floor, and there are apartments above. If the restaurant pays for the rent/mortgage on the whole building, then 28K/year is actually quite good. Using a corporation to pay for your things while you shelter yourself from having a high income is a great tax strategy. The business probably owns his cars for him, other real estate interests, and so on. This works out because although we in America have a high corporate tax RATE, that rate only applies to the profits a business shows after expenses. So it's a good strategy to keep your own income low in these cases, just enough to put some money in an IRA and put your kids into a decent school
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No.13311
>>13310
stop digging up 2 years old threads, retard
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No.13312
>>13311
I'm just searching through the catalogs of any board that seems interesting. If you aren't satisfied with the age of what's in the catalog, then contribute something.
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No.13501
>>3320
>They're likely pulling in 300-500 on a busy weekend if they're any good at their job
You are assuming that the management doesn't keep tips. They usually do.
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No.13709
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No.13871
>>3307
Shit nigga this threads three years old
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No.13874
>bumping a thread about a 3 years old news article
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No.13893
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No.13895
>>13893
Gross Roastie-Whore the Degenerate Leftard #2254754789
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No.13932
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No.13933
>>13895
Really makes you think
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No.14035
>>13501
Or pool them like some communist shithole.
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No.14036
>>3307
Did any of these restaurants not suck?
Good, now I have an excuse not to tip when I'm in Seattle.
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No.14055
>there are people who still care about restaurants
Cook everything yourself, retards. If you're the type of subhuman who subsists on eating out only, you deserve to starve.
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No.14123
There are no restaurants or bars left in Seattle! And now with the head tax, all the Albertsons and Safeways are gone!
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No.15913
HIGH MIN WAGE MAKES ECONOMY MORE TRANSPARENT, AND THAT IS GOOD.
CURRENTLY, THE TAXPAYER IS SUBSIDIZING HIRING A LOT OF WETBACKS FOR FAST FOOD, LEAF BLOWING AND MOTEL MAIDS.
THE WETBACK MAKES $10 BUT GETS ANOTHER 20-30 IN WELFARE FOR HIS FAMILY FROM TAXPAYERS.
PLUS, FAST FOOD, LEAF BLOWING AND MOTELS ARE ALL BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTH IN GENERAL.
FAT ASSES, DUST BLOWN INTO AIR AND NOISE, AND BED BUGS AND HOOKERS.
BROWN BAG IT, LET THE FUCKING LEAFS ROT FOR A BIT, AND STAY HOME.
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No.15914
WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL I VISITED A NAVY MESS HALL AT NEARBY BASE WITH NAVY BRAT FRIEND.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NICE AND EFFICIENT IF THE GOVT DID SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR CIVILIANS. JUST BASIC SLOP FREE FOR THE TAKING, SO YOUR AVERAGE JOE AND HIS WIFE DOESN'T NEED TO SPEND AN HOUR A DAY ON COOKING AND CLEANING, AND HAVING 1/2 THE FOOD ROT ANYWAYS. BUY IN BULK AND ALL THAT SHIT.
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No.16207
>>3307
I live in Seattle. It is THE worst food city in the world. I used to live in a town 25,000 and they had better food than this. Also, this is an old article.
>inb4 move
tech job is holding me hostage
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