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bb0d72 No.6165 [View All]

Haven't seen one of these yet, to my knowledge, so here we go.

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c961a9 No.12631

Today I learned from a friend that marriage is not considered a sacrament by the protestant church. According to him, since the marriage is not a sacrament, it does not include a blessing from God and the holy spirit, but merely the blessing by man (the priest). That's also one of the reasons many of them allow homosexual weddings since apparently God isn't even involved in this ritual.

So what's the point of marrying in the protestant church then? Frankly, if this is true I'm quite disappointed since I always considered marriage blessed by God a beautiful and important rite. I was already quite annoyed by the fact they have female priests, but being wed by a woman AND getting the blessing from her and not from God seems too much.

I don't want to become a catholic but idk, being protestant doesn't seem that great either.

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dbf2d4 No.12637

>>12631

Well in the first place the point of marrying in either church is to get married and because that's your church.

The word sacrament either means something that confers grace, or it's synonymous with ordinance. Most Protestants don't call marriage a sacrament because there's not a biblical reason to. Mark 10:9 still exists, God created marriage and affirms the wedding, and any attempt at divorce is sin before God.

I have never heard of a wedding where God wasn't invoked to bless the marriage.

>I was already quite annoyed by the fact they have female priests

Don't go anywhere there's female clergy.

Don't go anywhere that affirms gay marriage.

Liberal Christianity is not a branch of Christianity, it's a new religion altogether.

Here's a book about it https://archive.org/details/christianitylibe00mach_0/mode/2up

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57ae88 No.12639

>>12637

>Don't go anywhere there's female clergy.

Good luck finding a protestant church without female clergy in Germany. And yes, they do allow homosexual weddings and they dont't even have a choice since the upper church leaders came up with this s—.

The only choice is either to submit to this female homo nu-church, or become a catholic or some JW cultist.

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dbf2d4 No.12640

File: ea6794fab7880cc⋯.jpg (804.23 KB,1437x2622,479:874,Screenshot_20200131-080318….jpg)

>>12639

I don't think that's true.

These guys seem good.

My own American seminary has a sister seminary in Bonn https://bsb-online.de/

Maybe you can find churches through them. I don't know German so I couldn't help.

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dbf2d4 No.12641

File: f407d84138453c6⋯.jpg (1.25 MB,1439x2199,1439:2199,Screenshot_20200131-081353….jpg)

>>12640

Yeah they seem to be all over the place

This is also just one denomination

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2f09fe No.12654

File: 17878afb9b07f12⋯.png (81.88 KB,600x600,1:1,orthodox apu.png)

>>12639

>The only choice is either to submit to this female homo nu-church, or become a catholic or some JW cultist.

There is another way, my brother.

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d5541f No.12657

>>12640

Haven't heard of them, I'll check them out. Although I think you should always be cautious with smaller christian denominations because there is a risk of it being some weird cult.

>>12654

Orthodoxy would be my denomination of choice. It's pretty based, traditional, aesthetic. Sadly, not as present where I live. Germany doesn't have its own orthodox church, it's has mainly branches of russian, serbian, greek churches mainly consisting of ethnic worshippers.

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ed11ef No.12791

File: 129c1a4a732b39b⋯.jpg (299.52 KB,600x774,100:129,weepingmotherofgodofthesig….jpg)

>>12654

Glad to see there's still an Orthodox presence on the board. Attended my first Vespers last weekend, and it was incredible. The parish I went to has some amazingly nice people, and there happens to be a lot of converts there around my age, to boot.

It's perfect, but unfortunately, I wasn't thinking about the fact that I'm preparing for a massive exam that will effectively decide whether or not I can get into my (notoriously cutthroat) Master's program, as well as working full-time. Even after the exam, my program is compressed into 10 months, meaning it'll be brutal.

I'm still going to attend catechism tomorrow, and I plan on continuing to pray, research the faith, and watch sermons regularly… but I feel horrible about having to put this off again right after I found an amazing parish.

Compounding the issue is the fact that I was invited to attend Divine Liturgy that same weekend, and got up early specifically to do so, only to bungle my commute so badly that I would have been 15 minutes late. I don't know their policy on latecomers, but I imagine they wouldn't have been happy. Therefore, I felt the need to not attend, which just made me feel worse.

I'm planning on talking to the priests tomorrow; hopefully they won't be angry with me.

Please pray for me, anons.

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dbb46d No.12803

File: 83f929f06d1c273⋯.png (392.44 KB,548x706,274:353,orthodoxy.png)

Went to an orthodox church multiple times, same church but never committed. I feel embarrassed going back. Should I be embarrassed to go back? I want to stay this time.

So should I feel bad going back? Saturday I want to go to vespers.

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6a8443 No.12807

File: 3aa5e4511eb5275⋯.jpg (464.96 KB,600x761,600:761,angelssynaxis.jpg)

File: e6c1164456a7aef⋯.jpeg (328.49 KB,900x1195,180:239,PaulPeter.jpeg)

>>12791

Dude, many cradles literally just show up for communion and leave. It's fine, not ideal, but I think you should have gone that day. God bless.

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8cb3f1 No.12810

>>12791

Will pray for you. I know masters programs can be grueling but there is light at the end of tunnel

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3a70dc No.12821

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Is there any truth to what he is saying about paganism/pantheism having a pattern structure of Father god, mother god and the son of god?

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fab19d No.12823

How do I pray?

Are there certain steps I have to follow?

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3a70dc No.12836

>>12823

The bible says to go to your room and close the door, als read the cermon on the Mountie by Jesus for more detailed instructions.

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e4d059 No.12863

I’m Methodist. My church has the sodomy vote coming up in May. The pastor has made little mention of it until last week, when in conversation after the service, he came out unequivocally against the prohibition of fags in the pulpit. He’s a liberal, but the church is pretty conservative. At this point, I might ask for prayer for my church that we vote the right way.

Most pertinently now in my mind is the issue of communion. Is it okay to take communion from such a guy under full knowledge of what he stands for?

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dbb46d No.12864

File: 1c61dd05384a4df⋯.jpg (68.4 KB,298x298,1:1,1555322855698.jpg)

Idk what to do anymore

I want to become a tradcat, I even went to a latin mass today. Its even affiliated with SSPX. However the church was old, decaying, dusty and there was no heating system.

I felt very uncomfortable. Confession made me even more uncomfortable. The zombie-like repetition of the mary prayer made me want to leave. I left after confession.

I want to die, I have never felt this more depressed before. I think my mere existence is a cosmic joke made by god himself. I've been dealing with mental illness too.

I also have a hunch that my uncomfortableness in the church is satan playing games with me.

I made my mom cry by saying that I think that Pope John XXIII should have been burned at the stake for creating Vatican II.

I've been attending an orthodox church but its not the same. Nothing satisfies me. I have even tried non christian faiths. I don't know what to believe anymore.

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768460 No.12866

File: 390c1f47733b8ae⋯.png (1.23 MB,690x460,3:2,roman_nooo.png)

>>12864

sounds like you still engage in impure acts which violate the 6th and 9th commandments. you must stay away from anything relating to sex if you wish to become closer to God.

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852432 No.12874

>>12863

How is that split going, by the way? I heard news that hopefully you won't be forced to leave and form a new denomination, but instead it might be the fags that will be forced to leave, like what happened with the LCMS Seminex crap in the 70's.

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66b1f5 No.12877

>>12864

Anon. Sadly I know that feel. Life is really hard, because we're not in Heaven yet. The questions you must ask yourself is why would you like to be satisfied? Is it some kind of consumerist drive? A Netflix religion search, searching for the next fix? I'm not Catholic myself, but Catholics have a giant advantage that most Protestants overlook. The Saints. You are not alone, people have lived before you and had the same struggles as you do. Or as Ecclisiastes says it "nothing is new under the Sun". I would suggest you read Confessions by (St.) Augustine, it is an eye-opener and I think the book takes up some of the themes that worry you. I will pray for you to find peace with Lord. God bless you Anon.

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66b1f5 No.12878

>>12631

Well, your friend should learn dogmatics. I can tell why Lutheran's don't consider marriage a sacrament. A sacrament is something that is created by God (marriage is, but wait), gives grace (marriage doesn't) and has something material connected to it (marriage doesn't). Word of God gives grace, but it's not a sacrament as it has nothing material - it is God's work in the heart of the believer. The only two sacraments (legit churches) recognize are baptism and eucharist. Also, I don't see why some Protestans claim that bread doesn't remain Jesus' body after the words of institution - that's just some weird Protestant pragmatics which I don't agree with. Hope it was a good answer.

Also:

Don't listen to heretics, but remember that even though the priest is a woman her sacraments and her preaching are still legit as it is God's a not her work, if she's a bad preacher find a normal priest. If someone marries gay-homos in the Church, ignore their propaganda and pray for them. Maybe they're lost, and need a sign from God.

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62eaf8 No.12890

>>12864

Sounds like you need to examine your reasoning for wanting to be a "tradcath".

Personally, I was in your shoes a little less than a year ago, except I was an Orthodox catechumen and ended up leaving after a lot of soul searching.

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06320c No.12910

I've been reading things from catholic.com, is the website legit?

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1fd0f0 No.12911

>>7071

Amen!

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1fd0f0 No.12912

>>12631

look up a "covenant wedding"

Plus- if the vow is made Sincely to God by each party- its official.

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1fd0f0 No.12913

>>7134

we are the church.

God tells us what to do- not to do.

We are to obey the law ( even Jesus said as long as we dwelled here at all amoung luciferians) to the extent that we can (finacially- ethicall [no God contradiction]) we should.

Divine revelation and direction- transcends the law and makes clear the identity of the Saints.

We can however reveal our markings: symbols/tatoos/ to show evidence of who owns us.

" Therefore let no man doubt my faith- ad I bear on my body the brandmarks of the Lord Jesus Christ" (paraphrased) - bible/ God

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1fd0f0 No.12914

>>12878

i like the symbolism of the rings- especially in a spiritual context.

plus, since we are but human- it serves as a reminder- unlike a stone- more like wings :)

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1fd0f0 No.12915

>>12803

What's " Vespers"?

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3ea4aa No.12916

>>7444

"Going to hell over a movie"

I say we stay in close relationship with the trinity- so close that we know even whe we cant feel/see/hear Him we still know He is here in our mist. As that becmes solid- because of all aspects of God and his manfestations- we might be refined- not offended or codemned.

know this: even in our wanderings- He seeks an audience with us, if we love Him.

He does not know how NOT to.

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3ea4aa No.12917

>>8973

Just like God is using the race card for His glory- ie: satan can push an agenda and God can turn it into a prism of Unity and His Glorious creation. (truth from lies).

So will the alien invasion reveal the spiritual gifts of the Saints. This part of the plan will shine a light on the word "alien". ( define it).

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1fd0f0 No.12918

>>12568

This is good!

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80be17 No.12927

How do I find my patron saint as a Catholic, returning to God and I wish to have a saint look upon me and pray to God for me, I know Mother Mary is the obvious choice but I've been looking at Nikolas Tavelic who was a martyr I think I can look at his him someone who had unending zeal and strength in his principles.

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80be17 No.12928

>>12927

Never mind, I've chosen Mother Mary or Our Lady of Guadalupe.

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7fd85e No.12945

>>6221

>>6222

>>6227

>>6225

Do not speak so casually of these things, if you have a problem ask of the Lord and do not trouble your brothers with foolishness, and inspire sin in their hearts as well as yours.

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7fd85e No.12946

>>6477

Martyrs and Prophets of Christ are in Heaven.

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7fd85e No.12947

>>6536

There is no single answer. The world is not information to comprehend, but ask of the Lord and have the Holy Spirit be a witness to you.

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7fd85e No.12948

>>8008

Never ask a Catholic about Freemasons, they never get exposed to good info. The Freemasons were an esoteric order built out of the Masons (builder guilds) of the Medieval period. They developed a system of initiation that was meant to bring the individual into spiritual ascendancy through the attainment of gnosis via ritual and the deepening of how Masons engage with their various religious traditions as informed by perennial wisdom.

Sabbatean Frankist Jews infiltrated Masonry and most western Churches and use their influence to essentially make things as debased as possible. They invert biblical morality and eventually caused the Masons to be gutted of effective membership, which is why they are in a bit of a spiritually weak place at the moment with loads of profane normies involved. Catholics hate Masons because Masons infiltrated them after themselves being infiltrated by Sabbateans. Sabbateans also formed the Donmeh Muslims in Turkey. They still exist.

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7fd85e No.12949

>>8631

yeah honestly am Ortho and came for that reason

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7fd85e No.12950

>>12037

this is a very fair telling of the mindset of most everyday Catholics, who are theologically and scripturally Orthodox unless they buy extra into the "Roman" part of Catholicism, which is not every Catholic

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7fd85e No.12951

>>12293

it is indeed all three brother. Cling to the Church when she is sick, minister to her and your own heart with your prayers, and have faith even unto the end of the world. There is much diversity even under a single mother Church, therefore have the Spirit be a witness to you

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7fd85e No.12952

>>12533

My brother, come and witness the Holy Spirit! Be empowered to know that the man who reprimands you as you thirst for God condemns himself

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7fd85e No.12953

>>12572

…Just go to a white Church bro.

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b54003 No.12958

File: ae1dcd0ffc8705a⋯.png (437.48 KB,1279x606,1279:606,90s_html.png)

>>6165

What is /christianity/'s opinion on pic related?

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a51eff No.12961

File: 53d75b3d747cf4a⋯.jpg (168.58 KB,918x920,459:460,35f3b191f03031551af63f3faf….jpg)

>>12329639

>>12329640

>>12329638

>>12329637

>>12329636

>>12329635

>>12329626

>>12329625

>>12329623

>>12329622

>>12329615

>>12329617

>>12329618

th 10th plague of Egypt claimed th 1st born,

th blood of lambs on th lintel saved th

1st born of Jacob,

I believe that th plague were a contagion

& th blood of th lambs neutered that contagion,

th bible, more than a book of morality but

practical living,

in th law warning of marking one's self to th

dead, not cutting or tattoos cuz of hygiene,

same w foul food like swine. not to

spoil fun but for hygiene,

now some what safe w swine or seafood,

but as yesterday & today filth is filth,

I imagine those who eat much swine &

that seafood there are health negs possibly

still unknown, th minuche of th ill effects of foods,

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a51eff No.12962

File: 81642b3259c2080⋯.jpg (140.77 KB,1024x576,16:9,06jokers_ranked_ledger_jum….jpg)

practical living,

annoint th lintels of your doors w oil,

my belief over th last supper,

I were at a greek restaurant

over 20 yo ago, balsamic vinegar

& olive oil, w a bread dip,

took many years later to

think of this,

what practical living is in

this,

anoint your brow w oil,

practical living,

prayer, to load th global

consciousness to your needs,

what w global surveillance,

th words you utter in prayer

are loaded to all involved

in surveillance & even th top

echelons are exposed to

your desires, here in, psychology,

more of th practicality of th bible,

ppl listening in on Jesus & him thinking he

were alone, but he was watched

in ever word,

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a51eff No.12963

File: 53d75b3d747cf4a⋯.jpg (168.58 KB,918x920,459:460,35f3b191f03031551af63f3faf….jpg)

>>12953

being practical, I don't believe in any miracle

even in th bible, I believe all miracles in th

bible are rationally explained,

example, Elisha raising th son of th shulamite,

he laid face to face over th child to raise him,

me, aka he had relations w th woman to

bring her son back in a term,

Yeshua could do no miracles cuz th hardness

of hearts save only a few things aka bringing

ppl to th crossroads I call it, all th crossroads,

th blind to see, th awakening at th crossroads,

Yeshua saved th best wine for last,

here in th coming miracles, th 1st,

my basic sciences to wake all life

that is past,

put bugs in th freezer, live, dead or slow,

th cold to create a restoration, th dead taking from

th slow & strong in th soup of sugar, spices,

spicy candies, meds for neural activity,

excess water to create life in hairs too long in water,

possibly millet seeds in water, junk dna

to make those millet seeds an egg maybe,

kick open a reanimation for th smallest in bugs

that in time it create a shockwave towards

th reanimation of larger life forms &

all past returning,

worms, spiders, wasps, th rest in th freezer

for them to rejuvenate off th soup they share

to have th strong bugs in th soup give

strength to those slow or dead, th rest

in th cold to give th ability to restore,

my in this, all is watched in surveillance

to arrest power in th highest echelons,

not one idea going to waste

w/out th govs knowing th value in

a practical science or even men staring at goats

in th ethereal,

my bug sciences being amped by gov technology

to a greater reflect & possibility of

a greater day for all on earth,

in this I believe th beginning of th first

of all miracles, both th dead raised

in these bug sciences & healings enmasse,

do you get my very practicability,

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a51eff No.12966

File: fb806973bb6ff26⋯.jpg (12.38 KB,236x176,59:44,6ebffd965e7873f80be95e9270….jpg)

>>12332568

>>12332555

yo Niggah, Paul laughed at th Thessalonians

cuz they had party hats ready too,

2K yo later & ppl still obsessed w th tomorrow

& th next tomorrow & th next, not realizing they

still expected to show at their job tomorrow w

th hangover that keeps ruining th next tomorrow,

tomorrow tomorrow, it will always be

tomorrow cuz there is no tomorrow

but only today so what are you

doing today to keep th job you

need to pay for your bills that are

still gone be there tomorrow,

them, they still don't realize that

tomorrow never comes, no

matter how much they wait for it,

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a51eff No.12967

File: a927af811b301fb⋯.gif (2.69 MB,960x509,960:509,1457975259_armwrestle.gif)

IMO th 10 plagues of Egypt are reasonably

explained,

Chris Bale's Moshe th best so far,

Moses doing simple sciences to cascade

those 10 plagues, what were those simple

sciences I don't know,

th entire plagues may have taken years

as opposed to th time line looking like

only a few days, most likely years in th

process,

cue th one I'd know th most of to reveal

your understanding on th other plagues,

th 10th plague being a contagion that th

blood of lambs on th door lintels vaccinating

those homes vs th death of th 1st born in those

homes, to know this one you may understand

th simple sciences that Moshe used to

created th initial cascade for th entire 10

plagues,

yep, me I believe th 10th plague were a contagion,

th lambs blood on th door lintels killed that contagion

from claiming th lives of th 1st born in

those homes, cool sciences huh,

yep, for me if you can there are very reasonable

explanations for all quote miracles that happened,

writer's liberty for this rationally explained out of

th ethereal we in error believe, if you can divide

to know th reality as opposed to th ethereal

that is on th surface,

Yeshua could only heal a few sick & do

no miracles aka get ppl to th crossroads,

not one miracle, no raising th dead, nothing,

all writer's liberty, nothing has changed,

I know ppl who brag about this or that dead raised,

took me time to realize those lies, those lies

these ppl did is very dangerous to th death

of th faith of many over th propheting of those lies,

ppl lie today th same as th bible over th dead raised or

th sick healed, this is very offensive to

th faith of many cuz th lies hurting th faith of many

cuz they are strung out on th hope these ppl

give those lies to encourage, very hurtful

to th faith of many,

like I say, Elisha raised th son of th shulamite,

he streched over th child face to face, to me, Elisha had relations w th shulamite to raise th child in a

new pregnancy, reality huh, reality,

my guess, an African Centurion nutted on a roman communal toilet & Mary sat down & got a backwash & thus she got pregnant, th reason I say Yeshua were black & him slagging th pharisees as whited sepulchers, th reason for his stature of

my guess a nigliath, Paul too called th religious whited sepulchers,

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a51eff No.12968

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>>12947

>>12948

no doubt that Yeezy did a lot ofcrazy things w herbs & berries,like Solomon & his husbandryw plants & animals,

bet he did some cool sciencesthat th EYE of that time took upfrom his behavior, Yeezy huh,

th EYE of th time in Solomon'sday for th sh Solomon created,

scooping up sciences they didin their days,

th EYE gleaning from th redactedsciences th wise did in those days,

Solomon or Yeezy creating &th EYE of those times editing th bibleso as to take for themselves thpractical sciences made in thosedays for th pre-eminence of th powerof th EYE in those days,

tao of meow,

-Venom,

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a51eff No.12969

do you like wild life th way I do,

I'm scared of spiders but that is changingw my respect for them, I love snakes thoughhuh,

just my intuition, salt & urine for attractsnakes, sugar & urine for spiders-bugs,

salt & urine for scorpions,

animals maybe salt sugar & urine,

I love animals huh, you guys

prolly respect animallife more than humans,

possible grow th wild lifearound you,

-Venom

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a51eff No.12970

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to be practical,

I don't believe that Yehuda showed upin a toga to tell Jacob about circumcisionbut it were possibly in reality learning thispractice from others in that area& Jacob attributed th health practiceto Yehuda speaking through othersto help him safe guard vs th healthproblems related to a foreskin intact,

th infections surrounding an intact foreskin& how Jacob would have learned this healthpractice, any good thing could be attributedto Yehuda as Yehuda using ppl as hishands to educate ppl or increasea person's way to more success,

to hear of positive practices others use& attribute any form of increase toth providence of Yehuda that were exposed inany way for a person to learn for any increase in life,

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