/christianity/ - Christian Theology & Philosophy

>>5245

>The board is a strict trad Catholic board now.

It's not even trad, it's just conservative Novus Ordo.

>>5245

>The board is a strict trad Catholic board now.

Bullshit, it's just larpers banning Christians including those defending the RCC.

>/christian/ created in September

>Alex is the owner. He's a Southern Baptist

How ironic

On the side note, looking at the board history, it shows that Catholics there are literal cancer that slowly spread and devour the organism. You can't have anything there without Catholics twisting and ruining it. There was some German agnostic guy who opened a thread that he was interested in Orthodoxy and asked on which parish was better and how should he behave and what to expect when visiting the church and being introduced to Orthodoxy. Thread instantly got bombarded with autistic LARPtholics screaming "MUH KEYYYYYYYYS!!!", "YOU ARE NOT SLAV YOU LARPER!!!" (Why do these morons forget that Greeks, Georgians and Romanians aren't Slavic either. >Inb4 "Slav rapebabies" ), "HERE, LET ME CITE SOME SCHOLASTIC AUTISM ABOUT WHY ROME!!!". And this thread is one of many, as well as LARPtholics opening threads, where they compare Orthodoxy to multiheaded monster mocking our autocephaly and calling Palamas a gnostic, forgetting that Eastern Catholics venerate him as a saint. Not to mention several specially """gifted""" mocking and ridiculing Orthodox doctrine of Theosis and our view about heaven and hell being states of soul. But you know what? These people don't get even warned, while Orthodox uttering a simple banter that even a stranger would recognize to be a joke will get permabanned as showed in a neighbouring thread.

One anon here stated correctly. This is a cult that managed to turn the board started by a literal Protestant aimed to be a discussion board between every Christian to a LARPtholic safe space where these bunch of Pharisees would boast about their """piety""" and such absurdities as praying on rosary ONLINE IN DISCORD.

On a related note, at first I had a serious bad feeling about Protestantism spreading in LatAm, but at this point I believe that Papist cult must be eradicated.

>>6403

>mocking our view about heaven and hell being states of soul

You deserve to be mocked for that one

>>6406

Well, that's your opinion (despite it being supported by several church fathers), while I think that materialised view on immaterial, SAndersonian view that hell is in center of the earth and Catholic teaching on purgatory and buying your way to reduce time there deserves mocking. But that wasn't my point and you simply nitpicked specific part form my statement.

Every denominations have their specific theories and characteristics, but the difference is that mocking Orthodox or Protestant ones there is halal, while mocking Catholic ones is a massive NoNo and will earn you permaban. This while Catholic made thread about Orthodox church organisation resembling several headed monster still stands.

>>6409

By "supported by church fathers" I am talking about the Orthodox theologoumenon that I have stated above.

>>6406

Some say that the hell is underground and the heavens are beyond the observable universe. This is certainly a possibility but does it matter? What is suffering? A state. What is bliss? Also a state. And the important question is about the cause of the suffering of the souls in the hell. There are two answers:

1. A cruel merciless God

2. The spiritual state of the sinner, i.e. his attachment to things he will no longer have, the regrets for the passed life, his envy, hatred or disdain of particular people, his aversion to prayers for the living people and the world, the torture of the conscience, the uncertainty of what awaits after the Last judgment because then the state of the sinner will only worsen, etc.

I got permanently banned for mocking a racial supremacist. Fuck that board.

>>6436

woah dude, that's like, so deep man

*rips bong*

My impression of Tutor is that he was too uptight and scrupulous. My discord server does not have the same issues with my background and generally serves as more of a hangout. Either way, I still wouldn't like slurs like papist being tossed around despite having relatively free speech because regardless of debate there has to be a form of harmony with the other denoms.

>>6942

>slurs like papist

lol ok

Stop advertising your tranny discord server here

>>6948

Did I give out a link? The point being it's an enshrined rule for civility, something mudslinging doesn't accomplish.

>>3026

Half the board got banned during that terrorist attack. The mods aren't Catholic, they're kikes and false Christian judaizers. I got banned for saying muzzies did it.

>>6942

Papist is an accurate term for you, catholic is not

>>6942

Well, considering that people of your denomination are one of the most arrogant, pharisaic and incomprehensibly pedantic and legaliatic that wants to dogmatize everything and regulate every single behaviour without leaving place for discretion, free will, free thought and free speech, and last but not least using slurs like "OrthoLARP" regularly, I don't think that you guys are the ones who should be complaining about this.

bump

I remember the early days of /christian/. It was a wonderful time.

I even remember the time the board collectively went through Augustine's Confessions.

How I wish we could return to such an innocence.

>>6942

I'll confess, I use "papist" from time to time, but not out of animosity.

To call you "catholic" wouldn't be accurate, so I use either Romanist, Papist, or Roman Catholic.

>>7063

/christian/ defends Islam? They have fallen far.

>>2982

Im a catholic and not even a sede and I was banned for criticizing vatican ii and the novus ordo mass.

>>9145

They really are pathetic… As someone born in a Catholic country, these no-dissent-allowed faggots remind me why I became an atheist around the time I was 12. Thankfully Jesus looked out for me all those years I was lost.

Nice history. But point? Where is this going?

>>9568

History doesn't have a plot until retrospect

>>9875

I've seen this misunderstanding before regarding what the Catechism says on Muslims.

Please read this article:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-catechism-on-islam

>>9875

>They also claim to be the "younger brother" of Judaism as well.

And don't forget about their kinship with Hindus and Buddhists.

>>3203

did he get b&?

>>9903

Spin.

>>2947

i don’t know any history, but i always got banned from them, don’t even remember why at this point. i know i didn’t troll.

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>>11906

Slow and splintered. Most people just left.

Anime posting is off-putting by the way, so that might not be helping.

>>11906

The anime stuff is really effeminate, agreed with >>11941

Anyways, this board dies from time to time. It'll probably make a comeback someday.

>>11906

8chan came back as 8kun, and Catholic Mafia abandoned /christian/, So people came back to their comfort zone on 8chan/kun, and also came back to their comfort zone of /christian/ since the Catholic mafia has left.

>>11946

>The anime stuff is really effeminate

How?

>>11981

Do you have a living grandfather? Show him that image and pay attention to his reaction.

>>12005

>A picture depicting a female character is effeminate

How much brain damage do you suffer from?

This board is the next one after /christian/ now

>>12122

cuteness is also the common domain of females, who's the rightful claimant?

>>12134

It's just a cartoon used as a reaction pic lmao

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Creator of /christian/ here. Every few months or year or so I look up what's happened to the board, and it's very cool that someone made this, it's pretty much what I've been looking for. I'm not active on any imageboard anymore, and found this thread from searching something very close to the thread subject. I think that maybe someone would find my perspective on this interesting. As a disclaimer, I won't be commenting on the "ethical" character of other board owners or mods or anything, basically because I never knew them aside from the two mods I originally put in place.

I started going on 4chan in 2009 when I was 13 (a friend on facebook who I never met posted funny photo albums and had things that referenced 4chan), and was on /b/, then /x/ and /lit/, /news/(if that's what it was called) and /pol/ once it was remade. My use of 4chan declined gradually over the years, but I was still looking at it everyday for quite some time. I actually became a Christian in January of 2014, from, in an Earthly sense, online material not from any imageboard (if anyone remembers the Christian threads on /pol/ Zimmerman trial era, those weren't what did it.)

I got to 8chan because of the pretty monumental gamergate drama, which I was honestly only passively interested in after a couple weeks, as I had hardly played video games by that point for at least a year or two (still never picked it back up), and could never keep up with the details of the whole thing. There was the "exodus", and I really liked the idea of 8chan, with all of the excitement of something new and all of the endless little boards that I spent a lot of time going on; small literary boards, writing, secret boards, ones made for small groups of people, etc. I was out of /pol/ in an ideological sense by September of 2014, and I think it's important to remember that 8chan didn't have anywhere near as much stigma as it does today. 8chan's /pol/ was pretty much straight up National Socialist if I recall correctly (and it had like 5 long stickies on the front page which I thought was funny), but otherwise the website was defined by gamergate and free speech. Within a few days of me learning about 8chan, I decided to make /christian/ by myself, without a ton of thought, but I hoped that it would grow. I thought that it probably wouldn't go anywhere, since I had no idea what the "shelf life" of 8chan would be, and I imagine that I expected either the board to languish in obscurity or the website would fizzle out altogether. Nobody else was involved, and I didn't post with a name on 4chan since I was like 14-15 (and wasn't notable anyway), so I sincerely doubt anyone knows anything about me prior to the board.

>>12930

I was active on a lot of boards anonymously, mostly small ones, and stayed away from /pol/ and the gamergate stuff. Other than a few scattered posts on long dead boards, I think you could see my posts as Alex. on the 8chan meta from 2014-to maybe early 2016. I was primarily concerned with keeping the board clean from pornography and gore and very blatant trolling, and since it was quite small, wasn't too worried about any precedent I was setting, and figured it would stay small, so it wouldn't be an issue. I intended it to be pretty informal I suppose, and *not* a church or anything, so I wasn't too concerned with policing discourse except for things that weren't Christian. I was actually concerned that a lot of irreligious people would turn it into a sort of "here's why Christianity is wrong" battleground, but that never really materialized. The first non trolling "threat" that I had to decide what to do with was the "Positive Christianity" stuff, which was basically Nazis interpreting Christianity through Nazism, and since I knew a lot of those people were on /pol/ I didn't want to have the board slide into that.

I was happy to see the board grow, and was surprised at how much it took off and managed to not just turn into a far-right /pol/ replica. A couple of notes of trivia would be that I remember the owner of /islam/ wishing us Merry Christmas, a guy named smiely from the asatru board offering a board skin that I didn't accept (but appreciated the offer), and me offering to co-admin a debate board with the owner of the atheism board, /atheist/ or /atheism/, which he declined, as he was fine having that stuff on his board. Also, I had nothing to do with the IRC or the twitter that apparently exists. I posted on the IRC a couple of times, though.

The first bit of "drama" that came about was me getting two moderators, one named Seminaranon and another named Fr. Milch, I think. The first was a Lutheran seminary student in the Midwest and the other was a Catholic, who I think was from Germany. I was 18 and a senior in high school at the time, and had to get up pretty early to drive to school, which meant that I had to go through the report queue every morning as the board was completely unmoderated when I was asleep, which was causing problems. I never got involved with personal stuff, and only banned and removed non SFW or anti-Christian stuff. After school I could keep up without obsessing over it, and it frankly wasn't that hard, but in the morning I could wake up to 40 reports and have to go through it, which was becoming pretty annoying. My sleep schedule and online activity times were obviously very regular in high school, so I needed people from different time zones and who were active at different times than me to moderate it. During school I never had problems checking the one or two things that were in the report queue, it was mainly night that was the issue. I didn't really vet the admins if I'm being honest, and didn't know them. I don't remember how I got into contact with them, and we didn't even talk a huge amount. Probably an oversight on my part. People started complaining about Fr. Milch after a bit, which I won't say anything about because I wasn't involved enough or keeping close enough tabs. I can definitely say that I myself never engaged in censorship, and ran quite a loose ship with the board, but can't say anything about the behavior of other mods, as I really don't know it, and can't stress enough how little communication I had with them, which was, again, probably an oversight on my part.

In late 2015 I went to college, which is probably when most people remember me being mostly absent. I did basic janitor work on the board, and that was it, and was checking on it less and less, as my life got busy and I was going through a very, very bad period mentally. By the end of the school year I was hardly checking the board and logging in, since I figured the place looked fine when I checked, which I'm sure was a bit too laid back an approach in hindsight. I really never desired to get involved in personal conflicts and didn't "enjoy" being board owner per say, it was just something I did to keep what I made running, despite some of the funny things I could see and being happy the board kept growing. I wasn't then and still am not very active in online communities at all, which probably means I'm not really a good fit to be in charge of a board that's of any decent size. I was ousted for inactivity and found out later, because by that point I hardly ever went on any imageboard, and my interests had moved elsewhere.

Open to questions, may be slow in responding though!

>>11906

Most people who were giving it the benefit of doubt realized it was just another splinter-group of modern leftism in practice.

Preaching the same things but with a mildly upset tone about the actual end-result of their preaching as if that somehow changes anything.

Didn't help that people from these type of boards went on one of the select few places on the internet, and in the entire west, where you can argue against the status quo merely in order to preach the exact same core dogma of the status quo; that native europeans should give up their thousands of years old homelands and collective resources to hand over both to their oppressors for X, Y and Z arbitrary reasons. (some were even duplicitous about it, stating ambiguous views over there while haranguing them the second they popped onto discord or old 8ch)

Aside from those who already believe Christ is the way, net-christians aren't telling them anything they haven't already heard from secular anti-porn, anti-abortion and anti-white advocates at this point.

That's my view at least, as a lurker who gave people on here the benefit of the doubt very early on back on 4ch pol and actually argued against the anti-christians before seeing the same old two-faced selectively tribal gaslighting once on here.