/christianity/ - Christian Theology & Philosophy

Valuing your race to such an extent is straight up idolatry. Pure and simple.

That being said, preserving your race/culture/nation/etc is not a sin, but white identitarians do frequently take it to the point of sin, and that's the problem. This works the same way how consuming food is not a sin, but gluttony is. If race is all you're focused on, that means you're not focused on God.

Furthermore, if you actuality study the Bible and the history of civilization objectively, race mixing is practically the prime objective for whites, because it is their genetics which have civilized entire foreign nations. To withhold white genetics from the rest of the world would be akin to stoping the preaching of the gospel, because your idolatry made you too proud to go out and civilize the barbarians of the earth:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LDbRjMXb1nlv/

https://youtu.be/tI1rbIYwK4A

>>10628

The Lord clearly told us not to race mix. The Lord wiped out all the mongrels with the flood precisely because of race mixing. Only Noah and his family were spared because he was “perfect in his descent”. The reason most "Christians" think race mixing is acceptable is because most "churches" are only interested in keeping membership up so they have someone to beg for money from. So they say whatever they think is appealing to the majority at any given time. They care nothing for the Word of God. So they pretend Jesus was some kind of hippy or communist and tell people when he said things like "all white people can be saved" he meant breeding with negroes or other beasts is acceptable.

>>10636

>Valuing your race to such an extent is straight up idolatry

Why was the Lord so clear and explicit about the people of Israel not race mixing then? He was commanding them to sin? Your position makes no sense. We are to preserve our blood as our Lord created us, and as He commanded us to do.

>Furthermore, if you actuality study the Bible and the history of civilization objectively, race mixing is practically the prime objective for whites

Oh, you're an anti-Christ. Rot in hell then.

>To withhold white genetics from the rest of the world would be akin to stoping the preaching of the gospel

The gospel is for Adam-kind, not beasts.

>>10643

>to recognize that DNA exists, race exists, and that differences in DNA and race have a profound effect on culture and society alike

Are you illiterate? If you understood my position clearly, you would realize I asserted those things. Hence the point about positively influencing other genetic lines to civilize them. I even linked to a Ryan Faulk video proving that point for crying out loud.

Your ignorance of this just shows the point I was making about idolatry. You're so focused on your man-made political cause/ideology, that you no longer pay attention to God's will.

>An objective study of the Bible and the history of civilization suggests no such thing

Yes, it does. Watch the first JFH video that was linked. The "European"/White genetic line, is literally the tribe of Israel.

>although there have certainly been big migratory movements that came from WITHIN Europe that went to other places in Europe.

The Christian Roman/Byzantine empire stretched all the way down through the Middle East, and westward through much of North Africa. To call that "European" is just sloppy. You're in utter denial of Christian history and have fallen prey to pagan (((propaganda))).

>God put a stop to a homogeneous and mixed humanity and the ideologies of imperialism and globalism when it appeared at Babel.

The story of Babel wasn't even remotely about imperialism. (((Globalism))) sure, but not imperialism in the way I proposed. If the bible were against imperialism, then it would contradict itself by giving Christians the Great Commission. Are you calling Jesus a heretic?

>>10649

Another idiot that doesn't know Whites are the tribe of Isreal. You've all been duped goyim.

>>10649

Not going to add much to your post except that 150 years ago, your position was pretty mainstream in Christianity, and that people shouldn't dismiss it.

>>10650

>White people are the Tribe of Israel

This makes absolutely no sense. There were white Israelites in Canaan at the same time there were white Germanics in Scandinavia.

I mean, have you actually READ the Old Testament? Jacob didn't go on to populate the whole world.

>>10649

>The gospel is for Adam-kind, not beasts.

>19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

>20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

<Matthew 28 (KJV)

Be gone satan.

>>10652

Also see gospel of Mark.

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

– Mark 16:15

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

– John 1:12-13

>>10652

But the question is; by what criteria do you classify the non-Europid Hominins as "Human"

Is a plucked chicken a human because it is a "featherless biped?"

https://youtu.be/SNuZ4OE6vCk

Is Koko the Gorilla "Human?" Why or why not?

>>10651

>This makes absolutely no sense.

It would if any of you bothered to actually watch the damn linked video:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LDbRjMXb1nlv/

>There were white Israelites in Canaan at the same time there were white Germanics in Scandinavia.

>There were Isrealites at the same time there were Pagans

>This is a problem

Are you even listening to yourself? Putting Pagans on the same level as Christians is why you're just a white skin idolater.

>>10657

Ummm, what?

I'm only pointing out that Jacob cannot be the father of all white people since there were already white people in other parts of the world.

You're the person saying White people are Israel, how am I a white skin idolater??

>>10658

Because you think that I'm saying that Whiteness is exclusive to Isreal, when that was never the point.

The point is that the Isrealites civilized the white barbarians of the north, making most (if not all) of the remaining white race part of Isreal now.

If all you focus on is skin color, you would miss that very crucial point. And the fact that people here are missing that point, proves that they haven't actually been paying attention to God's plan, because they've been too busy idolizing their superficial appearances. It's the Isreali genetic line that matters. The genetic line that civilized Europe to such a degree that people such as yourself can now proudly consider yourself European Identitarians 2000 years later, when in reality, Europe before Christianity was a barbaric pagan shithole.

>>10650

>Are you illiterate? If you understood my position clearly, you would realize I asserted those things. Hence the point about positively influencing other genetic lines to civilize them. I even linked to a Ryan Faulk video proving that point for crying out loud.

I know you asserted those things and I ignored them because you then went on to advocate for some weird form of 'genetic evangelism' which is possibly the most retarded idea I have heard all year. If you cant figure out why it is incredibly stupid and wont work then I cant help you.

>You're so focused on your man-made political cause/ideology, that you no longer pay attention to God's will.

Pure conjecture

>Yes, it does. Watch the first JFH video that was linked. The "European"/White genetic line, is literally the tribe of Israel.

m8 idc about the videos you posted, no one is going to sit and watch hours of videos just to FRICKing respond to you on an imageboard, its a stupid expectation. If you cant articulate the argument then dont post.

>The Christian Roman/Byzantine empire stretched all the way down through the Middle East, and westward through much of North Africa. To call that "European" is just sloppy. You're in utter denial of Christian history and have fallen prey to pagan (((propaganda))).

You obviously have no clue about the genetic history of Europe and the migratory patterns (or lack of) that helped shape it over the course of history - and when the FRICK did I ever call MENA European? You seem to be failing to distinguish between a state and a nation. Europeans developed as a very insular and self contained group who never experienced large external migratory waves from non European people. We are not the missing tribes of Israel or whatever you want to believe.

>The story of Babel wasn't even remotely about imperialism. (((Globalism))) sure, but not imperialism in the way I proposed. If the bible were against imperialism, then it would contradict itself by giving Christians the Great Commission. Are you calling Jesus a heretic?

If this is your take then yes, we are obviously talking about two completely different things when referencing imperialism.

Saged again because this thread is already a shitshow.

>>10660

The 10 "lost tribes" were conquered by Assyria and scattered into oblivion. You would know this if you read the Bible. The only "Unmixed" or "independent" Tribes being Judah, Levi, and Benjamin (along with remnants of the other tribes). They remained in the Kingdom of Judah, they didn't conquer anyone. Judah just had (mostly) bad kings until they just got conquered by Babylon.

>>10628

Anyways OP, racemixing is not condoned by the Bible anywhere and people who say it is are wrong. Also, it's not a matter of being interested in "becoming" a Christian. It's a question of whether or not you are wiling to accept Jesus Christ, the Son and Word of God, as your savior and deliverer from Hell.

>>10661

>I'm not going to sit and watch hours of videos just to understand God's plan better

And this is why you're just an idolator. You don't actually care to learn, you just care about pushing a man-made agenda. Do you take the same attitude towards sitting for hours studying your bible as well?

>We are not the missing tribes of Israel or whatever you want to believe.

I never said naitive europeans were, I said that the barbaric pagan eurpoeans have been cleansed by the Isreali genetic line, thus making them part of the tribe and giving them all the success they've experienced since then.

>>10662

>The only "Unmixed" or "independent" Tribes being Judah, Levi, and Benjamin (along with remnants of the other tribes).

Sure, but the point was never about "unmixed" tribes. The point is that the isrealites carried valuable genetics that spread among the nations.

>>10661

>If you cant figure out why it is incredibly stupid and wont work then I cant help you.

If you think it's stupid, that just means you have no faith that God will preserve our people.

Matthew 6:

>“Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

>>10664

So, let me get this straight,

"Yes goyim, you ARE superior ('that'll stroke their ego') that's why you MUST racemix!"

"Us 'Israelis' have superior genes goy, and we conquered and 'civilized' you ancestors. Yup! That's right"

My almonds seem to be activating.

>>10663

>I'm not going to sit and watch hours of videos just to understand God's plan better

lol not even remotely close to what I said. What I was saying is that if you cant even articulate the broad strokes of the argument for your position, then you should not be posting. Spamming links to long videos and getting mad people wont watch them is childish. Articulate the argument yourself first, then let others watch links you provide if they want to investigate more.

>And this is why you're just an idolator. You don't actually care to learn, you just care about pushing a man-made agenda. Do you take the same attitude towards sitting for hours studying your bible as well?

Pure conjecture and not going to bother addressing bullshit like this.

>I never said naitive europeans were, I said that the barbaric pagan eurpoeans have been cleansed by the Isreali genetic line, thus making them part of the tribe and giving them all the success they've experienced since then.

No actually this is the first time you have said this in the thread. Look man, I am happy to hear your arguments for all this stuff, but please do a proper writeup and make some effortposts. Make a new thread if you have to so there can be a clean slate. But all I am asking is that you properly articulate the entire argument in your own words first. Throwing esoteric statements out there like 'barbaric pagan eurpoeans have been cleansed by the Isreali genetic line' is going to be met with hostility and suspicion because we have no argument from you and no context for the statement.

Politely saged again.

>>10666

>"Us 'Israelis' have superior genes goy, and we conquered and 'civilized' you ancestors. Yup! That's right"

Jews are strictly from the tribe of Judah. Israel is not composed purely from those of Judah. This is basic biblical genealogy, goyim.

Also, look at those trips

>666

Coincidence?

>>10669

>Literally calling me goy after I catch on.

You're still incorrect too. Jew=someone from Judah the place, not the tribe. Paul was a Jew even though he was a Benjaminite.

>>10671

>Jew=someone from Judah the place, not the tribe.

>It doesn't matter who descended from the blessed Joseph and (((who didn't)))

Good goy.

>>10655

if you're a Christian and have a Bible at your disposal, how is this even a question?

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

- Genesis 1:26‭-‬27

All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

- John 1:3‭-‬4

>>10650

>Another idiot that doesn't know Whites are the tribe of Isreal

No, the Israelites were white. Not all whites were Israelites. Israelites is a subset of Adamites, which is white people, or simply mankind.

>>10652

That says exactly the same thing I said. All the nations of mankind. Are you preaching the gospel to monkeys too?

>>10654

>to every creature.

No, to all creation.

>But as many as received him

Beasts did not receive him, man did.

>>10669

>Jews are strictly from the tribe of Judah

Jews are not of Judah. Jews are Caananites and Edomites who claim to be of Judah but are not, exactly as told in Revelation.

>>10676

Because what you quoted does not in any way suggest that negroes are mankind. God created the beasts too, not just man. Negroes and Mongols are clearly not in the same image as Caucasians. Only one of them could be made in God's image, in God's likeness. So clearly only one of them is mankind. Since the bible is the story of mankind, and always refers to the descendants of Adam as white, it should be obvious who mankind is.

>>10677

You've been posting in a lot of threads on this topic. Can you make a new one? We can specifically debate your position that the Jews of today are not human.

>>10677

I agree with almost everything you're saying man, but Jesus already spells out WHY "Jews" of today aren't the true "Jews," or, the "Spiritual" Jews; they don't believe on Jesus! The spiritual line of Abraham, and therefore, spiritual Jews, are Christians. He even said they were physically Abraham's seed. Paul too, explained that Jews were physically of Abraham, but not spiritually. It's not an allusion to them being Edomites.

Edomites literally just became the ancient Nabataeans, and then got Islamified.

>>10665

>If you think it's stupid, that just means you have no faith that God will preserve our people.

What the FRICK is with people on this board lately? Mate, if you seriously believe that God has commanded Europeans to intentionally breed with other races of people as some form of 'genetic evangelism', then I cant help you. It is an idea that has never existed historically or biblically, being crackpot bullshit at best and serious nation wrecking subversion at worst. The fact you think Matthew 6 has anything to do with God alleviating the consequences of incredibly retarded decisions is ridiculous. It would be like you criticizing me for not jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge because I dont have enough faith in God.

>>10677

>>to every creature

>No, to all creation.

<implying CREATures weren't created

>>10681

The "Jews" come from Judah, the man that betrayed his brother for money the same way that Judas betrayed Jesus. There are no "spiritual jews".

>>10684

>It is an idea that has never existed historically

Every single time throughout Christian history that missionaries went out to spread the gospel, what exactly do you think happened? There's a reason why most people in the western hemisphere are at least half European and Christian now, instead of following their ancient native pagan traditions.

>>10684

>It is an idea that has never existed historically or biblically, being crackpot bullshit at best and serious nation wrecking subversion at worst.

you mean like white identitarianism?

>>10717

>how is a Christian offending my false idol a good thing?

(((you)))

>>10688

>implying CREATures weren't created

The word is κτίσει. It literally means "a thing that was created". It means the world. You preach to the entire world. Not the animals in it, only man has a soul, so only man can be saved. This is completely clear as the same phrasing is used in Colossians 1:23 but in the past tense. Was Paul telling us every single animal on the planet had already been taught the Gospel? No, he was telling us that the Gospel had been brought to everywhere on earth.

>The "Jews" come from Judah, the man that betrayed his brother for money the same way that Judas betrayed Jesus

You are making a linguistic argument to support a genealogical claim. Jews are not of Judah, they are of Cain. Just because jews lie, and say they are of Judah, does not make it so. Revelations tells us of those who claim to be of Judah but are not, and are the sons of the first murderer, fathered by satan.

>>10689

>oy vey goyim there's no such thing as white!

>our Lord was a liar, don't listen to him!

What's the difference between a catholic and a jew?

>>10728

>(((catholic)))

>Christian

Pick one.

>>10717

lol the absolute state

Marriage is about children, only a pervert too distracted by lustful feelings would willingly racemix, or a man with no other options, which is kinda pathetic in this world with so many easy good women.

>>10717

He's an old boomer, it's understandable that he'd be politically retarded.

Low IQ thread

Just a question: I'm a Catholic purely of Sub-Saharan African descent. Is the consensus here that I do not have an immortal soul?

>>10796

No, it's just one spergy white israelitist around here.

You have an immortal soul that is in peril because you're in the Roman church.

>>10796

No? Pretty sure it's stated multiple times that Christ came for ALL mankind, believe on him and you'll be saved.

>>10746

only a pervert too distracted by pride and lust would willingly put skin color on a pedestal above God.

>>10796

Correct. You are a beast of the field, to be yoked for field work.

>>10799

Yes, all MANKIND. Not beasts of the field.

>>10801

Nobody is talking about skin color, they are talking about race. And only a heretic would reject God's law because he wants to score brownie points with progressives and communists.

>>10805

Not even the Jews describing Philistines called them literal beasts, and they were pretty serious about racial purity. I think you're just trying to be deliberately provocative, there's no biblical reason I know of that declares negroes aren't human, if you have it provide it because I'm willing to learn, and I fully admit I don't know the bible inside and out.

>>10805

>Nobody is talking about skin color, they are talking about race.

That's what you guys think you're talking about, but if you actually cared about the other factors that come along with race (like genetics and culture) and were really interested in continuing the blessed lineage of Adam and Joseph, you would not be artificially restricting that blessed genealogy to a population that merely shared a skin color that used to be predominantly pagan and barbaric anyway, unless you had absolutely no clue how genetics works. The Bible explicitly recounts the unfolding of that lineage and the spreading of that blessing to all nations through Jesus. And since every homo sapien of every nation currently alive can trace their dna lineage back to a literal genetic adam and eve, any (((delusions))) about the artificial restriction of this to "whites"/"Europeans" is premised entirely on unbiblical secular/pagan factors. Race realism is a fact, but it is based largely on IQ, and the Bible says nothing about IQ requirements to receiving the gospel. Thus using it as a basis for evangelization is nothing but modernist (((propaganda))).

>And only a heretic would reject God's law because he wants to score brownie points with progressives and communists.

>implying anybody that disagrees with you is a (((communist)))

good goy.

>>10806

>Not even the Jews describing Philistines called them literal beasts, and they were pretty serious about racial purity.

Exactly. Do any of the idolators here think it's just a coincidence that modern day Israel is a literal ethnostate? When you start sharing the same goals and values as (((them))), that's when you know you should be questioning how Christian your stance actually is.

>>10806

>Not even the Jews describing Philistines called them literal beasts

What jews? And Philistines were descended from Adam, why would anyone call them beasts? DNA has confirmed Philistines were white, there's even another thread on it here I know you have seen and posted nonsense in.

>there's no biblical reason I know of that declares negroes aren't human

The Lord created Adam IN HIS IMAGE, HIS LIKENESS. The so-called "races" are not in the same image and likeness, so we can not all descend from Adam. There is no way an intellectually honest believer can conclude that the "races" are all mankind. Mankind as used in the bible literally refers to the descendants of Adam.

>>10809

>you would not be artificially restricting that blessed genealogy to a population that merely shared a skin color

We don't merely share a skin color. We share the common blood of Adam.

>The Bible explicitly recounts the unfolding of that lineage and the spreading of that blessing to all nations through Jesus

To all nations of mankind. The descendants of Adam. Jesus extends salvation to all of Adam's descendants, not just those descended from Jacob.

>nd since every homo sapien of every nation currently alive can trace their dna lineage back to a literal genetic adam and eve

LOL. Which lived millions of years apart according to those exact same (((scientists))). If your argument is based on your belief that the bible is incorrect, then say so from the start.

>Race realism is a fact, but it is based largely on IQ

No, it is entirely based on genes. IQ is simply one characteristic that differs as a result of those genes.

>>implying anybody that disagrees with you is a (((communist)))

I did not imply that, learn to read.

>good goy

You might want to learn what that means first.

>>10811

>Do any of the idolators here think it's just a coincidence that modern day Israel is a literal ethnostate?

No it isn't. Kikes are not one ethnicity.

>When you start sharing the same goals and values as (((them))), that's when you know you should be questioning how Christian your stance actually is.

OMG KIKES DRINK WATER YOU GUIZ STOP DRINKING WATER OR YOU ARE BAD CHRISTIAN!!!11111

>>10893

First of all I'd like to say good morning.

>there's even another thread on it here I know you have seen and posted nonsense in.

Promise I haven't been posting on that thread, though I do see someone took my line about the Jewish treatment of Philistines and ran with it, which you've just refuted so don't worry about it. You should know I'm not "hostile" to your ideas, I myself am an ethno-nationalist Christian, but I asked for biblical proof of a secular political ideal. I think it's wrong to not spread the gospel based on race, I also think it's wrong to live among these other races as if God didn't create separate languages and races for us to live in relative harmony, separately.

>he Lord created Adam IN HIS IMAGE, HIS LIKENESS.

Did you forget the part about the flood? Literally every human on earth is as much a descendant of Noah as they are Adam.(unless I'm misunderstanding the flood as a world-wide event?) I've always been under the impression that separate races came from Babel which informs my ethno-nationalist ideals, but I admit, again, I don't know the bible inside and out and I'm willing to learn. Believe me when I tell you I'd love to be on your side with this, but I just don't think the God would tell us to spread the gospel to every living creature knowing full well that other races couldn't be saved, it sounds like nonsense to me, it sounds like you've taken some aspects of scripture too far and others not far enough.

>>10811

>When you start sharing the same goals and values as (((them))), that's when you know you should be questioning how Christian your stance actually is.

I disagree, I'm sure Israelis also use math, doesn't mean we should stop using math. If we're all God's children, he's given us separate rooms to operate in since the tower of Babel. There's nothing wrong with recognizing separate races and wanting to keep them relatively separate (we can see first-hand how damaging mixing peoples all in one spot is) but I do think there's something wrong with saying not every man can be saved by the blood of Christ. I think it's very clear he came for all mankind and that we're commanded to preach to every living man.

>>10893

>LOL. Which lived millions of years apart according to those exact same (((scientists))).

<he doesn't understand how genetics works. LOL

Genetic differences aren't measured in terms of time, therefore they cannot directly map to any arbitrarily chosen timeline, retard. Plus, the way DNA actually "mutates" and "evolves", happens much more rapidly than clueless atheist talking heads would have you believe. Any honest geneticist (and especially Christian ones) will openly admit that the entire darwinian framework doesn't describe the reality of how DNA actually works at all. If you think genetic lineages in any way necessitate an acceptance of the stupid evolutionary timeline, that just means you have no idea what it is you're talking about.

>>10896

>I disagree, I'm sure Israelis also use math, doesn't mean we should stop using math.

Nobody said to not use what they use, otherwise we wouldn't be using much of the same scriptures. The point was about goals and values. If you share their values of rebelling against God's will, your status of a Christian is suspect. And yes, everything having to do with zionism and the modern state of "Israel" is most certainly rebellious in nature.

>>10903

>My point was you don't discredit something that works based on the fact (((they))) use it.

That isn't why it's discredited, but it should be enough reason to make people reevaluate their stances. Not questioning shared (((practices))) enough is why most Christians are still blindly using the corrupted masoretic text in their Bibles.

>The issue with Zionism is that it's predicated off an obsolete covenant

There are far bigger issues with Zionism than that. Not the least of which is the house of (((Judah))) masquerading as the house of Israel.

>But that doesn't mean Nationalism is bad.

Nobody is saying nationalism is bad. The problem here is this modernist "white" idolatry. "White" people didn't even exist as a, loose homogenous identity group until recently, and now it's being used as a basis to mimic rebellious Jewish isolationism. Jews were always independent and closed off, while Christians were always open and collaborative. To just brush off such a drastic arbitrary flip in Christian attitudes, is to turn a blind eye to their (((tricks))).

>>10896

>Literally every human on earth is as much a descendant of Noah as they are Adam

Human, not beast. And since Noah was perfect in his genealogy, he was indeed in the image of Adam. So yes, all mankind is in the image of Adam and Noah. Negros can not possibly be mankind, as they are not in the image of Adam and Noah.

>I've always been under the impression that separate races came from Babel

I can see how that interpretation could make sense if it weren't for the contradictory evidence that negros are not human. But it could also mean that the white race was spread out, and made into the various white nations with their various white languages. It says the people were scattered and unable to understand each other's languages. It does not say everything with 2 legs and speech was from those people.

>unless I'm misunderstanding the flood as a world-wide event?

I can't say for sure on that debate, but I am trying to find better information on it. The word used is erets, which can indeed mean some limited geographical area of land, it is used in that manner in the bible itself. But it can also mean the entire world I think. I may make a thread to discuss this question in the future when I have done more study.

>Believe me when I tell you I'd love to be on your side with this, but I just don't think the God would tell us to spread the gospel to every living creature knowing full well that other races couldn't be saved

Can fish be saved? If you interpret "to all creation" as "to everything I created", then you need to be spreading the gospel to trees and rocks too. None of those can be saved. Obviously the equally possible interpretation "to all of the world", implying all of man on the planet makes more sense.

>>10898

>Genetic differences aren't measured in terms of time

Nobody said they were. I said the same (((scientists))) who claim to have found genetic Eve and genetic Adam also claim to have dated those individuals to time periods millions of years apart. You can not use the (((scientists))) phony Adam and Eve to argue about the bible, as their version clearly and directly contradicts the bible which states that Adam and Eve lived at the same time and had children.

>Any honest geneticist (and especially Christian ones) will openly admit that the entire darwinian framework doesn't describe the reality of how DNA actually works at all

And yet you are offering up their phony millions of years nonsense as proof that the bible is wrong. Weird.

>>10899

>The point was about goals and values. If you share their values of rebelling against God's will

But nobody is doing that. I am pointing out what God clearly says. You are ignoring the Word of God because you prefer the heresy of man.

>>10912

>The problem here is this modernist "white" idolatry.

Which is not here, so why are you bringing it up? Nobody is elevating mankind above our Lord. I am simply obeying the Lord. The Lord forbid mixing seed. Does that mean I am engaging in "wheat" idolatry by obeying him? That's absurd.