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Thread #104
Hope and Salvation Edition
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No.64319
>>64316
wasn't that pretty much every countries drug policy since ever? It hasn't worked so far.
Even in countries like China where it's practically a life sentence for dealing drug people continue to do so.
What do you think about Portugals drug policy? it seems to have worked out pretty well.
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No.64320
>>64319
He gets off on the idea of killing people he doesn't like. There's pretty much no logic in what he's talking about.
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No.64321
>>64320
>It couldn't be that he wants there to be strong deterrents in place, no, he must be a malevolent psychopath.
Why are drugscum incapable of debating honestly?
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No.64322
>>64321
Go ahead, debate this guy then >>64319
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No.64323
>>64321
I mean, it is kind of hilarious that you just said I'm incapable of debating after you just ignored a debate and decided to insult me.
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No.64324
>nihilistic capitalist drugscum
>le Portuguese socialist paradise
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No.64325
>>64322
I don't know anything about Portugal or China's drug policies, nor do I give a shit, and I'm not the lad who wants you executed. I do think we should properly enforce the laws we already have in place though, as there's virtually no deterrent at the moment and we basically live in a state of de facto legalization.
How can you look at the average normie's relationship with alcohol and think that giving them access to hundreds of new poisons could end in anything but disaster? You care more about pursuing your own hedonistic desires than your country.
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No.64326
>>64325
>I don't know anything about Portugal or China's drug policies, nor do I give a shit
>there's virtually no deterrent at the moment and we basically live in a state of de facto legalization
Ah, so you're actually quite clueless on this sort of thing?
Please describe what you think the "average normie's relationship with alcohol" is. If you think the average person is just going to start smoking crack because it's legalized then you are hilariously out of touch.
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No.64327
>>64326
The penalties for getting caught with small amounts of any drug are mild, and in many cases amount to nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Our police only go after suppliers in earnest, failing to recognize that they'll be playing whack-a-mole forever until they tackle the demand.
>>64326
>Please describe what you think the "average normie's relationship with alcohol" is
Binge drinking every weekend
You're either completely unaware of peoples' tendency to destroy themselves given the opportunity and means to do so, or are ignoring it because of your own selfish desires. Is dream market not enough for you? Why does Deano need to be able to buy the most potent mind-altering substances on the planet from the local paki shop?
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No.64328
>>64319
My understanding of the Portuguese system is that they've decriminalised drug use and treat them as victims and seek to rehabilitate them rather than punish them, I don't really know any more in depth than that. I haven't heard much about how successful it's actually been, now as the opposite of this we have what Duterte has been doing in the Philippines which seems to be working, and has a proven track record when he did the same in Davidao city when he was mayor. Now I'm not actually arguing that we form death squads to violently purge drug users and dealers, it's just an example of when people actually enforce a zero tolerance policy it can work. I think most people think that the attempts to control drugs in this country have been fairly strict when really they've been pretty limp wristed and pathetic. Possession of the three legal classes of drugs will get you 7 years plus a fine for class A drugs, 5 years plus a fine for class B drugs and 2 years plus a fine for class C drugs. Meanwhile supply of class A will get you life in prison and a fine and supply of class B and C will get you 14 years prison and a fine. Clearly this is not sufficient deterrent because it hasn't been working, and if my local area is anything to go by the police don't even bother enforcing the law when it comes to weed (which is a class B drug). I'm not saying what I propose is the only way to deal with the drug issue we have and I think we can all agree the current system really does fuck all to help the problem, if the Portuguese system actually works and is cost effective (meaning rehabilitated people have a low rate of relapse) then I might be in favour of that for some people who have used less damaging drugs.
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No.64330
>>64327
Drinking on the weekend is cultural and not like any other kind of substance use. And nobody beyond 18-19 gets blackout drunk every weekend, people drink on weekends and there is nothing wrong with this.
>failing to recognize that they'll be playing whack-a-mole forever until they tackle the demand
Literally never going to happen, that's not how people work. Why did Iran and Afghanistan have the highest heroin use in the world when they could face capital punishment if caught?
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No.64331
I think the way Portugal treats it's drug addicts is probably the right way to go about things. Most of these people are addicted too drugs because they didn't have a good support network in place, not because they thought heroin would be fun to try out just for shit and giggles. You say Duterte has a policy that works, his policy involves the murder of thousands of people with innocent people getting caught up in the crossfire. How in any way is that working?
I also disagree that most people think that drug policy is too strict, people in this country especially the over 40's hate drugs and think there a menace too society. the only thing I do agree with is this current drug policy is a pile of shit and needs to be changed. The fact you think that killing and mass incarceration or anything even stricter that the system we have now would be a positive step boggles the mind. As hard as you try you can not control everybody, so why not just legalize, illimante illegal trade that way, then be there to help the people that fall through the cracks and pretty much get them to pay for it themselves?
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No.64332
>there are fascist pigs in this thread that think making drugs ubiquitous and removing any deterrent will make substance abuse more prevalent
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No.64333
>>64331
The idea behind laws is not just police / authority enforcement but also an aspect of moral reinforcement. It has generally been seen as morally wrong to break the law. And yes while today morals aren't exactly strong and neither is respect for the law, that is still the standard that should be aimed for. Why does it boggle the mind that I want people who push at worst very damaging substances and at best disruptive to healthy society killed? they are actively damaging my country and it's people and as far as I am concerned that deserves a hanging as much as committing murder or treason does.
>why not decriminalise shoplifting, after all even with all the modern deterrents to it we still can't stop shoplifters.
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No.64334
>>64315
You're on thin ice.
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No.64335
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No.64336
>>64333
You don't even seem to care about the effectiveness of different approaches to tackling drug use or other crimes, you just have a fetish for punishment.
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No.64337
>And nobody beyond 18-19 gets blackout drunk every weekend
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No.64338
>>64336
So you're just going to willfully ignore what I said earlier then?
"if the Portuguese system actually works and is cost effective (meaning rehabilitated people have a low rate of relapse) then I might be in favour of that for some people who have used less damaging drugs."
What's next? I have a phobia of narcotics?
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No.64339
>>64338
Obviously there's more than one person I've been talking to, dumbass. >>64325
>and I'm not the lad who wants you executed
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No.64340
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No.64341
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No.64342
>>64337
Being drunk is massively less socially acceptable when you get to about 25.
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No.64343
>>64342
>tfw too working class to know what the fuck you're on about
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No.64344
>>64342
Don't know what fucking country you live in mate, but it isn't britain.
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No.64345
>>64343
>>64344
Okay, perhaps this is a class thing.
>tfw posh spaz
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No.64346
>>64345
It's the proles I'd be most worried about when it comes to mass legalization tbh
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No.64347
>>64346
I can tell. You only liked the idea of a Portuguese system if it was cost effective.
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No.64348
>>64342
My mum was regularly partying and getting shitfaced throughout her 40s, she's calmed down ever since she became a grandparent, but even in recent years I've come across her passed out on the living room floor. I'd say it probably does become less acceptable around 25, because it's when a lot of people have to take on more responsibilities and become parents, but once the kids are a bit older they're back to stumbling out of clubs and bars again.
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No.64349
>tfw pre-ordered a denuvo'd game
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No.64350
I've now got 300 Mbps download and 30 Mbps upload speeds lads, getting about 160 Mbps / 20 Mbps over VPN. I was on about 70 Mbps / 20 Mbps before.
>>64349
>2018
>pre-ordering games
You were asking for it lad.
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No.64351
Would you trade it all in to become a bog standard 100 IQ normie with a gf?
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No.64352
>>64351
I don't think I would, that's the same as taking the blue pill.
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No.64353
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No.64354
>>64350
The last thing I pre-ordered was Dark Souls 3, I very rarely do it. I don't really know why people hate Denuvo so much, given they're buying the games off Steam or another DRM platform anyway.
>>64351
No.
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No.64355
>>64354
It's not just because it's DRM, it's because it sabotages the performance of the game by maxing out your CPU the entire time the game is running, it monitors what you and your system are doing without telling you, it gives you a limited number of activations, and it constantly phones home to third parties the entire time (and it may or may not give you a couple of days to play the game offline before you need to "re-activate"). Not to mention, there's no guarantee that the game will be "unlocked" once the activation servers go offline, which has happened to a couple of games already. Steam at the very least has the decency to not majorly fuck over your system's performance, let's you install non-Denuvo games on as many systems as you want, and lets you play non-Denuvo games offline without an arbitrary time limit.
The best way of course is to just not use Steam if possible, and for Steam-only games either pirate them, use cracked executables, or just tell the dev to go fuck themselves and play something else.
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No.64356
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No.64357
Lads, seen the state of halfchan /britfeels/ recently? It is an utter utter joke these days. The cunts argue and fight over any post. Shame that, A few years ago it was alright.
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No.64358
>>64356
Eating more can help, your body only keeps warm when you have enough energy to spare, and it prioritises your major organs first, so if your hands and feet feel unnaturally cold for the environment you're in, that could be why. Moving around will help too.
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No.64359
>>64357
This place exists because it became unbearable a few years ago.
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No.64360
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No.64361
>>64357
You've come to the realisation we came to about 2 years ago. Welcome to comfy britfeel.
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No.64362
>>64357
That's what happens when you give free reign to attention whore tripfags, they turn everything into petty drama because it's what they live for
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No.64363
>>64359
Why does my 120 bong keyboard keep randomly typing the letter k? I'm getting real pissed off now,
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No.64364
>just exposed my penis in the groupchat
the cunts doubted me
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No.64365
>>64364
WAAAAAAHEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YES BOYSSSSSSS
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No.64366
>>64363
Does it have a macro recording feature? If not, could be a number of things, a dodgy switch, crap firmware/driver, bad USB port, some sort of IRQ conflict, etc.
>>64364
Go away.
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No.64367
>>64364
Please just fuck off.
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No.64368
>>64367
>>64366
Exactly what is the issue with my post lads? I see no issue with promoting a bit of healthy lad banter and stories in the thread? Or are we all serious now?
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No.64369
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